WEBVTT - Foreshadowing ("A Promise Broken" S1 EP 11)

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<v Speaker 1>Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney thorn Smith.

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<v Speaker 2>And Daphne's Aniga an iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>So before you came in, Daphny, I was telling Laura.

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<v Speaker 3>So my friend Shalen who called me to say, have

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<v Speaker 3>you ever thought of doing a rewatch podcast? Which led

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<v Speaker 3>me to call you guys, which led to us being here,

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<v Speaker 3>is visiting me right now with his wife and four kids.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was telling Laura that his wife used to

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<v Speaker 3>be my son's nanny. And at the time, she was

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<v Speaker 3>my son's nanny from two and a half to four

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<v Speaker 3>and a half and we adored her.

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<v Speaker 1>My son adored her. We loved her so much.

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<v Speaker 3>She met this nice boy at church and he proposed

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<v Speaker 3>that was great, but then he got a job out

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<v Speaker 3>of town.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he was dead to me, and I was so mad.

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<v Speaker 3>I was so much and my son was heartbroke and

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<v Speaker 3>I was so devastated.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm having this moment.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot like actually what we talked about with

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<v Speaker 3>Vanessa Cheers on the podcast about how difficult times can

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<v Speaker 3>turn around so beautifully. And I feel like God took

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<v Speaker 3>her away and it was so awful, but then brought

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<v Speaker 3>it back a thousand fold because now I've got her

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<v Speaker 3>and Shalen and her sister and their four kids in

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<v Speaker 3>my house, and it's literally like they took her away

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<v Speaker 3>and then multiplied the love and then brought her back, and.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been so sweet and moving, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I wish I'd known we were going to

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<v Speaker 3>do a different episode. I wish I could have brought

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<v Speaker 3>him in to meet you guys today because it would

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<v Speaker 3>have been so much fun because he's a big Melros

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<v Speaker 3>Place fan.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to have money, so.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you're still dreaming about you.

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<v Speaker 1>He's you know what it was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was mad at them for a minute because I

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<v Speaker 3>missed Bethany, but very quickly, like I just absolutely fall

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<v Speaker 3>in love with them. And now they come and stay,

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<v Speaker 3>and every time their stay gets longer and longer and

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<v Speaker 3>longer and keeps threat and he keeps going, yeah, i'd

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<v Speaker 3>be careful, we'll move in. I'm like, you think that's

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<v Speaker 3>a threat, but I would love it, so.

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<v Speaker 4>I have to want to move in, please do There's

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<v Speaker 4>plenty of episodes that we have to do, so we

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<v Speaker 4>should be here for a while. There's a plenty of opportunity.

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<v Speaker 4>He could end up in here at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Yeah, different people, and I think he should definitely

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<v Speaker 2>be one.

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<v Speaker 5>You can, like, you know, ask him about the dream

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<v Speaker 5>and if we're.

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<v Speaker 4>Meeting the dream, that he has his version. But we

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<v Speaker 4>do appreciate people.

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<v Speaker 2>And also the fact that we responded to it, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know that Laura and I had already been thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about it but had been let that go for a

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<v Speaker 2>while because of other sort of logistical things and then

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<v Speaker 2>when you just out of the blue called with this inspiration. See,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's exciting when we when things happened for better.

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<v Speaker 5>Or for worse, it's how we react to it. And

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<v Speaker 5>it's helped me make out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And Courtney, you know that did happen where he was

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<v Speaker 2>taken away, Your nanny was taken away and you were

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<v Speaker 2>just and I know things have happened to you and

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<v Speaker 2>things have happened to me, and things seem to be

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<v Speaker 2>like and you know, kudos to you, just like kudos

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<v Speaker 2>to Vanessa and to all of us. How we see

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<v Speaker 2>the positive when it finally in whatever time it takes,

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<v Speaker 2>it comes around.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well it's a great lesson, right And I can

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<v Speaker 3>look at my life, how many times that this is

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<v Speaker 3>objectively bad and it turns out for my good countless time.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I would just sort of relax into it

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<v Speaker 3>and go, I know this is going to turn out

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<v Speaker 3>for my good, but fear comes in. But that's the

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<v Speaker 3>spiritual work, right The spiritual work is to try to

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<v Speaker 3>get to the place where you go, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 3>to have an opinion about this, this is happening. I

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<v Speaker 3>trust that it will turn out for the best. That's

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<v Speaker 3>the work and that's the challenge. But this was such

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<v Speaker 3>a huge example of that in your life because I

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<v Speaker 3>love them so much, and it would have been so different.

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<v Speaker 3>Had she stayed, probably she would have Jack would have

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<v Speaker 3>gotten older, she would have left them like that was lovely,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you. But instead it's this beautiful relationship. My house

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<v Speaker 3>is still little kids.

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<v Speaker 1>The sweetest thing.

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<v Speaker 5>That's great.

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<v Speaker 4>That's great, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>My giant just really quickly. So my son now is

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen and six feet tall. So to watch him play

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<v Speaker 3>with her little kids, she and I can't stop crying.

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<v Speaker 4>YEA, so sweet, No, we both keeping.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you seeing this are It's so sweet how these

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<v Speaker 3>things come back around.

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<v Speaker 1>We never would have known. It's the sweetest thing. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>On the show, all right, So speaking of trust, you

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<v Speaker 2>guys are gonna trust me today because I said I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to do the rundown. It's usually for a job

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, but I really wanted to try it,

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<v Speaker 2>try it, mix things up, and so I watched it

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<v Speaker 2>twice this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at you doing your homework.

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<v Speaker 4>I can press.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm just digging this show now because all of

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<v Speaker 2>these years later, I get to relax and see things

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<v Speaker 2>just as an audience, like we've talked about. And one

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<v Speaker 2>thing I noticed about this episode, which is called I

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<v Speaker 2>Promise Broken, is that, you know how we talked about before,

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<v Speaker 2>Like usually there's a storyline like A stories maybe more

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<v Speaker 2>serious and B stories less serious, like they've been.

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<v Speaker 5>Doing that balance.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about you, guys, but I felt in

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<v Speaker 2>this one there was no light story. I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>that was they were all adulting in this episode, like

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<v Speaker 2>I've never lots happened.

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<v Speaker 5>Yep, you know they were dealing with really make.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, you know there's the banter with Alison and

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<v Speaker 2>Billy constantly, but there was serious issues.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh thank god.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, because I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Thinking of the storyline, I'm thinking, well, I did think

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<v Speaker 3>I played it a little angry, but I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't really gill that.

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<v Speaker 2>Do well, let me say everyone was adult thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>then Billy was doing his best a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Billy was acknowledging his immaturity.

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<v Speaker 3>I just kept thinking how adorable he was. We did,

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<v Speaker 3>we went back. We haven't had a shirtless scene for

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<v Speaker 3>a while, and he came out for no apparent reason

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<v Speaker 3>without a shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh that, thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 4>That was lovely. Yeah, that was nice.

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<v Speaker 2>He will never not be Billy. And then our guest stars.

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<v Speaker 2>So this was written by Darren Starr and Chuck Pratt.

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<v Speaker 4>Charles Pratt.

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<v Speaker 2>Charles I realized, I remembered wrote my first movie ever,

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<v Speaker 2>a horror movie for Paramount Initiation. So he was a

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<v Speaker 2>writer on that. But then you know, of course he

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<v Speaker 2>went on to do Desperate House with so Doug and

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<v Speaker 2>Marsha Doug and Marsha and yeah, so anyway, those are

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<v Speaker 2>the two men who wrote it, and the director was

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<v Speaker 2>Nancy Malone and our favorite child.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny because before so we have little cameras on

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<v Speaker 3>as well, we're doing the podcast. We were all adjusting

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<v Speaker 3>our cameras up and she was the one who taught

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<v Speaker 3>me that. I remember her sitting me down and saying okay,

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<v Speaker 3>showing me the camera and going okay, this is if

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<v Speaker 3>you're looking down at the camera. This is if you're

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<v Speaker 3>looking up at the camera. And she was showing me

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<v Speaker 3>the difference, and that's where I learned it. That's so funny, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So it's things that we just yes. And then there

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<v Speaker 3>are some guest stars in.

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<v Speaker 2>Here is Marcia Cross. So Marcia Cross, here we are

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<v Speaker 2>in episode eleven and she made an appearance. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>she wasn't coming until later.

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<v Speaker 3>In coming she Remember when we talked to Tom and

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<v Speaker 3>he said that they purposely played it with a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a flirtation to sort of plant the seed

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<v Speaker 3>and I will get to it. But I thought she

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<v Speaker 3>came in with so much confidence. I thought, Wow, she

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<v Speaker 3>really took the scene she was on like that. That's impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>Jane and Michael are. We're in the apartment at night.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the whole group. Remember those group scenes we were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. So they're all watching home movies and Jane

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<v Speaker 2>and Michael's apartment and they're watching childhood videos and it's

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<v Speaker 2>Jane as a baby.

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<v Speaker 4>So of course the whole group knows.

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<v Speaker 2>That she's pregnant and they are all these baby coming vibes.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a crib setup. We saw that happening before. Everyone

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<v Speaker 2>in the building has now gathered to watch these childhood videos,

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<v Speaker 2>which I thought it was.

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<v Speaker 5>I literally love the group now.

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<v Speaker 1>I like when we're all together of it.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's interesting too because we've had so many of

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<v Speaker 3>our castmates come in and sit down with us, so

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<v Speaker 3>I feel extra super yummy warm, like when I saw

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<v Speaker 3>Vanessa's like, oh Vanessa's we just reconnected with her.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so sweet.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a been Laura and I were talking about before

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<v Speaker 3>we started, how much fun this has turned out to be, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Like how much I genuinely look forward to getting to

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<v Speaker 3>sit and hang out with you guys. And with the

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<v Speaker 3>castmates coming into that's been such a lovely surprise all

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<v Speaker 3>of us. We stayed sort of connected, but really I

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<v Speaker 3>feel so current with everybody now.

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<v Speaker 1>That's been such a great little benefit.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's particular scene just so cute because it was

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<v Speaker 4>like a full people pile gathered to watch her childhood videos,

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<v Speaker 4>and like the ancient film camera that was really and

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<v Speaker 4>stuff and and like Matt's character going, how much longer

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<v Speaker 4>is this? But it was still like they all showed

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<v Speaker 4>up for it, and corn I feel like, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 4>was like because Alison had the popcorn maker that she

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<v Speaker 4>was carrying back to apartment. Did you notice that it didn't.

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<v Speaker 6>The air popper air oh whatever, not quite the airpo

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<v Speaker 6>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like my eighties. I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't bring popcorn. I brought the pop.

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<v Speaker 4>Right because well, everybody is like a poplug to watch,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, James hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>So it stops right in the middle of it, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, they don't know what happened, but the movie

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<v Speaker 2>just stopped, and he sends everyone home.

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<v Speaker 5>Michael sends everyone home.

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<v Speaker 3>For you younger viewers, that's because film used to be

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<v Speaker 3>actual film and it would be spliced and if it

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<v Speaker 3>fell apart, you had to be able to tape it

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<v Speaker 3>back together.

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<v Speaker 1>The kids are like, what.

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<v Speaker 4>Movie over? And when it comes to an end, we've

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<v Speaker 4>heard of something in and cut off. It's digital.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on YouTube or your next video. No, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>how it worked.

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<v Speaker 5>And they don't know the sex of the baby.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're at Alison and Billy's apartment and we walk

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<v Speaker 2>they go into the apartment after the little movie thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and Alice is like God, it smells in here that

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<v Speaker 2>guys smell and socks and T shirts. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if anyone listening has ever had a room maader housemaid

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<v Speaker 2>or an apartment made of a guy, they can totally relate.

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<v Speaker 2>They know their stuff everywhere. They're just not as neat

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<v Speaker 2>as most people.

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<v Speaker 3>Especially one time when Jack was playing basketball and we

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<v Speaker 3>brought a whole bunch of his friends over after practice

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<v Speaker 3>and they were all playing video games in his room

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<v Speaker 3>and I walked in and now we're later like, whoa

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<v Speaker 3>going to practice? Didn't shower, all sat together in a room.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like that at thirteen year old boys together

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<v Speaker 3>after practice, you've had god.

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<v Speaker 4>I have a jacket and you're referring to your Jack,

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<v Speaker 4>but let's have giant and but it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very intense. So I was like, oh, I know

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<v Speaker 3>what she's talking about. I know, how do they not

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<v Speaker 3>smell it?

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<v Speaker 4>Or when you like have to pick somebody up from

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<v Speaker 4>practice and you you end up picking three or four of.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, like you just casually roll down the windows by something.

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<v Speaker 5>Because you don't want to shame them, but boy do

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<v Speaker 5>they stink.

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<v Speaker 3>They also teenage boys don't care, right, Like they laugh

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<v Speaker 3>at their socks.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>But this is, by the way, when Alison is carrying

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<v Speaker 4>the popcorn popper when they entered the apartment, did you

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<v Speaker 4>not notice it? Because they returned from the film watching

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<v Speaker 4>and she's carrying the popcorn popper and she goes, WHOA,

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<v Speaker 4>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking at my dress.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't a fan of the dress.

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<v Speaker 4>That I love. Courtney notices we're like often on like

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<v Speaker 4>we're watching.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh just wait, I'm going to go off on an

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<v Speaker 3>outfit later in the show. Like part of it is

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<v Speaker 3>I know now what looks good on me. I would

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<v Speaker 3>never wear that neckline, that cut on me. I would

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<v Speaker 3>never wear that now.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm like, it's all right.

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<v Speaker 3>I wish you young Courtney, Alison, I know, and Courtney

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<v Speaker 3>have come a long way. Allison somewhere is not wearing

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<v Speaker 3>that dress.

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<v Speaker 1>I promise you.

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<v Speaker 4>But let's get real, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not real people, their characters and Alison had no

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<v Speaker 2>choice because the costumers were always throwing freaking jewelry on us.

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<v Speaker 2>No matter, you're wearing T shirt and shorts, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's throw on some jewelry.

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<v Speaker 4>Ever, you just have to have a choker or some

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<v Speaker 4>kind of Sidney wore plenty of things that Laura would

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<v Speaker 4>not have worn it, So.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I mean that's that was a character, But

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<v Speaker 3>I do think that I wasn't the only one that

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<v Speaker 3>was when we got a new costumer. When after thirteen,

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<v Speaker 3>somebody in an office was saying, that dress on Courtney,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not good.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry. So you know what I did think about this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, all the wardrobe you didn't like yours because

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<v Speaker 2>you had to wear it, But just as an audience member,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it alloked so great, true to nineties, like

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<v Speaker 2>quirky and weird at times, but I just thought everyone

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<v Speaker 2>looked you know, you start to see the suits.

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<v Speaker 3>And well, look, it may be self consciousness because I

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<v Speaker 3>too thought everyone else looked great.

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<v Speaker 4>I think there might be a little bit of that.

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<v Speaker 4>You're watching yourself differently than you're watching the thing. And

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<v Speaker 4>we are blessed with objectivity right now.

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<v Speaker 3>For all my spiritual talk, apparently the ego is still

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<v Speaker 3>alive and running.

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<v Speaker 4>But here's in this scene also, like besides her commenting

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<v Speaker 4>on the place being like dirty and smelly, it sort

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<v Speaker 4>of turns into an argument about So that was sort

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<v Speaker 4>of interesting. I thought that was perfect how the scene goes.

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<v Speaker 2>I always get an argument when how many times, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I live with a husband and there that it doesn't change.

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<v Speaker 5>Really, I gotta.

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<v Speaker 4>Say, but the argument was not so like flum mixing.

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<v Speaker 4>It was more like that it turned into a bet.

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<v Speaker 4>Like how they were going to resolve it was to

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<v Speaker 4>make it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I was waiting for them to kiss because it

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<v Speaker 3>felt very Sam and Diane. It's like, I'm so mad

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<v Speaker 3>at you, I'm gonna make you take me to dinner.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, Wow, Alison's subtle way to play it cool.

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<v Speaker 4>There were a lot of those in this, so I

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<v Speaker 4>thought that was an interesting way to get to the

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<v Speaker 4>idea that like, are they trying to show the audience

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<v Speaker 4>that there's a little bit of flirty underneath under Totally right?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that was totally You're going to have to

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<v Speaker 4>take me to dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if he can't clean up, he says, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to clean up, and he shortly after that does the laundry.

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<v Speaker 3>Which what an intimate thing to do, right, like something

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<v Speaker 3>laundryad Washington thing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>The next morning, quickly we hear the shower running. You're

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<v Speaker 2>you're in the bathroom and Billy comes out and says,

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<v Speaker 2>has Hey, that's what I'm going to do the laundry because.

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<v Speaker 1>Because apparently we share a laundry basket.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, don't I don't know about you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>but guys always need cookies and affirmation when they do,

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<v Speaker 2>like anything.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing the laundry.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, look it, I'm putting the dish in the dish washing.

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<v Speaker 6>That's what. That's what definitely takes Wait a minute, So

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<v Speaker 6>he's trying, he's trying really hard to prove that he

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<v Speaker 6>does laundry or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like, so let me also do yours.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just let me clearly here you're taking a shower

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you what I'm doing the laundry.

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<v Speaker 4>She never really said, okay, he gets.

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<v Speaker 2>No cookies until they're actually washed and then dried.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you know, in the writer's room, somebody made

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<v Speaker 3>that point and they said, don't pull that thread because

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<v Speaker 3>you need this for the next story point.

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<v Speaker 4>And it does say.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, I just circled and parentheses on the shower as

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<v Speaker 2>a pink shower curtain with cats, and I circled that

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<v Speaker 2>because that theme matches those teddy bears and toys I

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<v Speaker 2>saw stuffed.

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<v Speaker 4>Animals on your thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet what we're going to see next in the

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<v Speaker 2>laundry room is so different from Allison's toower curtain and

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<v Speaker 2>the stuffed animals, which is we're in the laundry room

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<v Speaker 2>and Billy and Jake, who I guess also is doing

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<v Speaker 2>laundry that day in.

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<v Speaker 4>His jorts is like raw ham rough.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wearing the same one.

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<v Speaker 3>I thank god I'm not wearing him the same scene.

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<v Speaker 3>I think exact same shorts on in the next seat.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you borrowed his because you were still in

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<v Speaker 4>the dryer.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, you're sharing a laundry room with an apartment.

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<v Speaker 2>Things get mixed up all the time, and you're just

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<v Speaker 2>a'll wear these. I think they were the same ones,

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<v Speaker 2>the same length, like halfway down. Okay, But there we

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<v Speaker 2>are in the laundry room and Billy findes your lacy

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<v Speaker 2>black bra that Alison a guest wears under all those.

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<v Speaker 4>Jorts and T shirts.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you know it was so hard to me,

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<v Speaker 3>like that was my actual size then. My breasts are

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<v Speaker 3>a lot smaller now, but there was I was a

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<v Speaker 3>thirty four dy.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't you love middle adies?

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<v Speaker 1>Hormones knockers.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I had a reduction, but yes, but I always

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<v Speaker 3>say hormones are good too. But they were so big,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was so surprised that I let them say

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<v Speaker 3>my actual size, Like that's a really intimate thing to

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<v Speaker 3>have them say.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I wonder if that was I wonder if it

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<v Speaker 4>was even a consultation with you. It's just probably the

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<v Speaker 4>script at the time, right, I mean, it was just

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<v Speaker 4>scripted they did it. They probably didn't say, hey, what's

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<v Speaker 4>your real size so we can make sure to get

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<v Speaker 4>it accurately in the script. I bet they didn't ask.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm not sure they looked right.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure it was without permission. It was just didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Feel intimate to me then, but watching I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>that feels so intimate to know that, right.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the boys just turn it into they're just

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<v Speaker 4>like being like eleven year olds, Yeah, goofing around and

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<v Speaker 4>like but.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really led by Billy, the most mature guy in

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<v Speaker 2>the building, Like he's like, oh, this is still good,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, getting to that point, I think what usually

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<v Speaker 2>happens is they're like, just go to wardrobe, get one

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<v Speaker 2>of Courtney's bras, and then they.

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<v Speaker 5>Just use that in the scene.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what happened, you know, they usually do that so

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<v Speaker 2>and then they yeah, read it up.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it felt intimate because I was so self

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<v Speaker 3>conscious about how big my breasts were, So I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's why it felt so intimate to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, that's a pretty intense thing to share.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and this whole scene, your whole storyline was about that,

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<v Speaker 2>about the memory glands, and it was.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually, I will get to the end. But I

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<v Speaker 3>was wondering why Allison was getting so upset cause I

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<v Speaker 3>don't remember the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>And at the end, I was like, Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why, because I kept thinking about me, calm down yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>I sort of I think, like, again, I keep correcting myself,

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<v Speaker 3>but I would have found more layers now, Like I

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<v Speaker 3>just sort of like started yelling and then just kept

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<v Speaker 3>it after the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 4>In Allison's defense, I'm gonna say she walks in and

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<v Speaker 4>finds them put Billy's put the bra on over his

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<v Speaker 4>T shirt, and he's like, like just being first of all,

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<v Speaker 4>it's your personal undergarments, and that he just sort of

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<v Speaker 4>assumed that he could launder that. You didn't really give

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<v Speaker 4>him permission for you walk in and you're in your robes.

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<v Speaker 4>You're clearly like maybe like realizing that he's taking your laundry.

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<v Speaker 4>And then he's being an eleven year old and acting

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<v Speaker 4>like a dork with his with your bra on his body,

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<v Speaker 4>So of course you're mad. I'm sorry, Like I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to defend Allison here. Yeah, Alison should be pissed that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>more sure mortified.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah maybe because she's so young. I mean today I

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't care, but maybe because but.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you're trying about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep going.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not just that instea. Then he's staring at them.

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<v Speaker 2>Then there's the magazine. You know, we'll get to that,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like it's a whole thing just out every scene.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just the breach of like that's my personal stuff

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<v Speaker 4>and you're like being such a dork, you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>making fun and whatever and you caught him doing it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to defend Alison here.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything to say about that dress in the first scene,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Go back and look at it. Yeah, so I'm probably

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<v Speaker 2>going to defend it. I love that Allison lazy. If

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<v Speaker 2>I saw anyone was cut her.

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<v Speaker 4>Some slot alf.

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<v Speaker 2>And now our next scene is in the hospital hallway

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<v Speaker 2>and we have Michael and Kimberly are walking down and

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<v Speaker 2>this is I think her first scene in this and

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<v Speaker 2>this is where you're saying, like, there's this confidence, there's

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<v Speaker 2>this pacing. She's very kind of like, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>here and really interested in him.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I And I was blown away by her confidence,

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<v Speaker 3>like as an actor, like she just came.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, wonder they had her back. She must

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<v Speaker 1>belong here.

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<v Speaker 4>Because yeah, and it was real. It was the introduction

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<v Speaker 4>to the character. But it was like she was assuming

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<v Speaker 4>the familiarity that that character would already have, Like she

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<v Speaker 4>she just she fit in at the hospital. She's an

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<v Speaker 4>intern who's already been working with them, and she demonstrated

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<v Speaker 4>that relationship with her level of comfortability and confidence. Yes

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<v Speaker 4>that all of a sudden we're like, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 4>a strong, beautiful co worker with Michael and they already

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<v Speaker 4>had this relationship. Like she established that immediately with you.

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<v Speaker 4>I really did establish I think it comes from her.

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<v Speaker 2>Marshall is a theater background, and that's like you know

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<v Speaker 2>all that backstory and stuff. It wasn't there was no

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<v Speaker 2>tendency like you might have as a guest star.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, she really came in.

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<v Speaker 3>And also Thomas said, they talked about it, so they

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<v Speaker 3>made that decision. I think they both really like to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about scenes and how they work, so maybe they

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<v Speaker 3>found that comfortability. But I thought it was a really

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<v Speaker 3>impressive entrance.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so coming in hot, here comes.

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<v Speaker 2>Comingly hot, and they're you know, and they're have this

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<v Speaker 2>banter and this playfulness, and she's already teasing him a

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<v Speaker 2>lot and saying that, you know, he can't talk about

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<v Speaker 2>his feelings and all that, and tiding him already. It

0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:13.840
<v Speaker 2>really annoyed me, like how she was. And then of

0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:17.000
<v Speaker 2>course my annoyance is warranted by the end where we

0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:20.040
<v Speaker 2>get to that part too. But it's like, but anyway,

0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:22.160
<v Speaker 2>I agree with she made herself right a home, that's

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<v Speaker 2>for sure, and with Michael. So they're walking down the

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<v Speaker 2>hallway and then Michael asked to go see the ultrasound.

0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Jane has this ultrasound and doctor Levin who says, no,

0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:37.120
<v Speaker 2>you can't. You got to do we have this other

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<v Speaker 2>thing that we have to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And sure you can't got an operation.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was a conflict.

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<v Speaker 2>At the same time, Jane and Matt are coming down

0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:48.280
<v Speaker 2>the hallway the next scene because they're going to the ultrasound.

0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:49.360
<v Speaker 5>Of course Matt's there.

0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:53.280
<v Speaker 2>He's like the best friend and very reliable, where Michael isn't.

0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:55.440
<v Speaker 5>But he's coming down.

0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Takes her there, and I think they're expecting Michael to

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<v Speaker 2>still be in the Alto Sound with his wife.

0:21:01.119 --> 0:21:03.360
<v Speaker 4>Until that was just giving her a ride, yeah, which

0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:06.720
<v Speaker 4>he'd offered in that film scene. I said, if you

0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:09.200
<v Speaker 4>need to ride tomorrow. Yeah, So they guess they only

0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:09.600
<v Speaker 4>have one car.

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<v Speaker 5>That's when Michael surprises him.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I can't go, So but don't go anywhere, Matt,

0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:16.840
<v Speaker 2>because you can go and be in there, and you

0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:19.520
<v Speaker 2>brought the video so we can see the recording and

0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:22.040
<v Speaker 2>we'll watch it together. I'm really sorry. And you just

0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:26.560
<v Speaker 2>see Jane's face and she's so disappointed again. And of

0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:30.000
<v Speaker 2>course now that we've had them on, you know, as guests,

0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:32.800
<v Speaker 2>she played that part a lot like oh, understanding and

0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:35.159
<v Speaker 2>kind of put up with stuff and just things, you know,

0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:36.760
<v Speaker 2>I remember her saying that.

0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:41.760
<v Speaker 5>And kind of just I don't know if she said that.

0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:43.760
<v Speaker 2>She wasn't crazy about it, but that's how they wrote her,

0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:44.920
<v Speaker 2>and she just had to play it.

0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:48.159
<v Speaker 5>You know, disappointed by accepting him to do it. He

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<v Speaker 5>was good.

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<v Speaker 3>She's probably honestly what every wife of an intern feels, right,

0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:52.919
<v Speaker 3>because what are you going to do?

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<v Speaker 1>You can't do it's not like you can change it.

0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:55.480
<v Speaker 1>You have to go through this.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, right. So we're still in the hospital and this

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<v Speaker 2>is the ultra sound happening, and Matt is in there.

0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:10.960
<v Speaker 2>She's coming in and they're getting ready and they mistake him,

0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:14.040
<v Speaker 2>of course for the dad, but he's not. But then

0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:17.199
<v Speaker 2>the doctor comes in, so this ultrasound is set up,

0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:21.320
<v Speaker 2>the nurses in there, the doctor starts doing the ultrasound

0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:24.320
<v Speaker 2>and they're all happy, and then something happens in the scene,

0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:29.120
<v Speaker 2>which is they're doing the ultrasound and she's like yeah, yeah,

0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:31.840
<v Speaker 2>and then it's like there's a quiet in the room.

0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:36.560
<v Speaker 2>And then he says, freeze it there, and you know,

0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:38.600
<v Speaker 2>he says to Matt, can we just have a second?

0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:40.680
<v Speaker 5>Can you step out? So Matt steps.

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<v Speaker 2>Out and give he gives the harble news that there's

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<v Speaker 2>no heartbeat. So that's like just devastating.

0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:51.120
<v Speaker 3>They handle it beautifully in the script, and again I'm

0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:53.359
<v Speaker 3>really I'm impressed with how they handle these things. Somebody

0:22:53.359 --> 0:22:56.280
<v Speaker 3>in the room had been through it, all the expectations,

0:22:56.359 --> 0:22:59.240
<v Speaker 3>everything was set up, they're all excited, and then there's

0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:02.800
<v Speaker 3>that moment where there's no heartbeat and it's just you know,

0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:04.200
<v Speaker 3>because it used to be and I think we're much

0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:05.760
<v Speaker 3>better about this now. It used to be this idea

0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:08.560
<v Speaker 3>of oh well, it was only so many weeks, but

0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:11.439
<v Speaker 3>it's not. It's the planning, it's the expectation, it's the

0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:12.840
<v Speaker 3>story you've told yourself.

0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:15.560
<v Speaker 1>You have this idea of what's going to happen, and

0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:19.320
<v Speaker 1>then it's gone, Yeah, so devastating. She played it beautifully.

0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:21.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I thought there was some interesting and we haven't

0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:24.719
<v Speaker 4>gotten to them yet. Some interesting moments too, where as

0:23:24.800 --> 0:23:27.280
<v Speaker 4>much as you know, Josie was twenty one years old

0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:29.960
<v Speaker 4>at the time and having to play this moment of

0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:34.159
<v Speaker 4>loss that right that it was just a lot too

0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:38.080
<v Speaker 4>shoulder that story. And then there was a part of

0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:42.360
<v Speaker 4>the character that throughout the episode she's apologizing and trying

0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:44.679
<v Speaker 4>to make things better for other people. I thought was

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<v Speaker 4>sort of an interesting color because, yeah, it comes like

0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:52.399
<v Speaker 4>that she's as devastated as she is, she's also having

0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:55.800
<v Speaker 4>to care about how other people are going to receive

0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:57.560
<v Speaker 4>this news and whatever, and I just thought that was

0:23:57.600 --> 0:23:58.560
<v Speaker 4>an interesting color.

0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:00.760
<v Speaker 3>I complain about social media, but I think that's the

0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:02.960
<v Speaker 3>thing where we've gotten better, where women are really talking

0:24:03.000 --> 0:24:06.080
<v Speaker 3>about this is a devastating loss. Like, don't say it's

0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:09.560
<v Speaker 3>only anything right, right, this is a devastating loss. And

0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:11.919
<v Speaker 3>I think that women now can claim it more and

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:14.720
<v Speaker 3>mourn it and really allow themselves to be sad and yeah,

0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:17.600
<v Speaker 3>get back on the horse. It's like, well, you're mourning

0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:18.160
<v Speaker 3>something real.

0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:21.960
<v Speaker 2>And usually the show, being thirty years ago, is things

0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:24.840
<v Speaker 2>that are archaic and old fashioned, and look where we

0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:25.399
<v Speaker 2>are today.

0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:26.600
<v Speaker 5>So that's what I mean.

0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:30.160
<v Speaker 4>They're all adulting. These are big issues of these writers were.

0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Like, you know what, enough of figuring out if I

0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:35.440
<v Speaker 2>should get rid of my car that's your.

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:36.199
<v Speaker 4>Bird or whatever.

0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:39.600
<v Speaker 5>Anyway, so we're going to move on.

0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:42.080
<v Speaker 2>We are now back with Alison and Billy in the

0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:45.920
<v Speaker 2>apartment and they have an argument about the.

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:48.160
<v Speaker 5>Bra and he's like, this has got to be a joke.

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:53.440
<v Speaker 2>You're taking this too seriously, and she just says, you're

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:56.959
<v Speaker 2>like a pervert, and he's, well, you're a prude.

0:24:57.080 --> 0:24:58.679
<v Speaker 4>I was just playing with the bra. I was just

0:24:58.760 --> 0:24:59.160
<v Speaker 4>a joke.

0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:02.240
<v Speaker 5>And then she said maybe this is a good reminder,

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:02.880
<v Speaker 5>like why.

0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:06.679
<v Speaker 2>We're just we're just roommates, you know, we're just because

0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:09.400
<v Speaker 2>basically you're a kid and you're annoying, and also.

0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:10.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to trick you into dinner.

0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:12.359
<v Speaker 4>All yeah, I don't want to go to dinner. But

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:15.680
<v Speaker 4>Alison's now put a lock on her door. The key

0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:18.680
<v Speaker 4>news here is that she decided to lock the door

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 4>a big dead bold in fact, not just like a

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:21.720
<v Speaker 4>little a big dead bowl.

0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Yep. So Alison really thought what you thought that was

0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:27.160
<v Speaker 2>a violation and now there's a lock.

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 4>Yep.

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:31.680
<v Speaker 3>No, I didn't think that. Laura's on Alison's side. I'm

0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:36.520
<v Speaker 3>completely anti. You're pro Allison. I'm completely anti Alison. My

0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:39.960
<v Speaker 3>personality is just going to split apart apart today.

0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:41.840
<v Speaker 4>It remains a fact that she put a lock on

0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:44.239
<v Speaker 4>the door and said stay out.

0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Which apparently you think is a great idea. I think

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:46.600
<v Speaker 1>it's an over it.

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:47.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying it's a fact.

0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:52.520
<v Speaker 2>So we're back in the hospital and this is during

0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:55.040
<v Speaker 2>the day and Matt and Michael are sitting there waiting

0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:58.199
<v Speaker 2>for Jane, and the doctor comes out to say that

0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:01.679
<v Speaker 2>the procedure is done and tells him that, you know,

0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:05.080
<v Speaker 2>a miscarriage is nature's way of taking care of something

0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:05.760
<v Speaker 2>that's not right.

0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 1>No, it didn't it look to you?

0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:09.440
<v Speaker 3>I was watching this thinking I felt like Thomas was

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 3>playing it like he hadn't heard this news. I felt

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:13.000
<v Speaker 3>like he was playing this was the first time he'd

0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:13.919
<v Speaker 3>heard it. Did you feel that?

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:16.400
<v Speaker 4>I think I was wondering.

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 5>I can see why.

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think he was like having his stunned sort

0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:25.880
<v Speaker 4>of reaction in this scene, like he was staring off

0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:28.400
<v Speaker 4>into spae whatever. Isn't this the one where he was

0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:29.680
<v Speaker 4>Wasn't he just kind of looking.

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 3>At the doctor's telling him But someone would have said,

0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 3>your wife is going into surgery because there was no

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:35.440
<v Speaker 3>hard someone would have told him.

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:37.919
<v Speaker 5>Because they're waiting. Yeah, I think he was playing more stunned.

0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:40.080
<v Speaker 2>But I'd see why you'd say that, because it kind

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:42.159
<v Speaker 2>of was a little could have been.

0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:44.159
<v Speaker 4>They were clearly waiting for her to come out of

0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:48.400
<v Speaker 4>the procedure, but he was acting sort of like just

0:26:48.480 --> 0:26:51.200
<v Speaker 4>stunned and numb about it. Yeah, And I think that

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:54.440
<v Speaker 4>rolls into him not feeling his feelings or not saying

0:26:54.440 --> 0:26:54.919
<v Speaker 4>his feelings.

0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Right, yes, right, And she's wheeled by and she says,

0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 2>I I'm sorry heartbreaking.

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 4>So heart breaking, which really he's like, why isn't he

0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:07.440
<v Speaker 4>saying I'm so sorry.

0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 3>Like, I'm sure that was hard for him to you

0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:11.080
<v Speaker 3>would want to say, O sweetheart, of course.

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:12.640
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing like you wanted to say something.

0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:14.840
<v Speaker 3>But I think this is him, like you said, not

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:20.399
<v Speaker 3>being to he's not connected to his feelings, because yeah, he.

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:22.679
<v Speaker 5>Did kind of just go I don't say that.

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's all he could do, you know what I mean, because.

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 1>There were no written lines and as we know, you

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:27.679
<v Speaker 1>can't say so he.

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:31.360
<v Speaker 4>Just so.

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:34.119
<v Speaker 2>Then we're in the courtyard and they're coming home. The

0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:36.720
<v Speaker 2>group is all gathered again.

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:37.480
<v Speaker 4>I like our group.

0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 5>They're there for support.

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:42.639
<v Speaker 2>When Jane and Michael come home, they they're walking.

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Really important support. Blah blah blah. But can we talk

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:46.000
<v Speaker 1>about Alison's outfit for a second.

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 4>Now, let's.

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Sport I don't remember, so I have on.

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 3>Jake Schortz for some reason, shorts all right, and another

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 3>horizontal stripe talk. Why would anyone ever wear horizontal striped anything?

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>And it seems to be my theme.

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:07.960
<v Speaker 3>Remember the carnival jacket, And then I've got the horizontal

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:09.480
<v Speaker 3>striped and I've got the I.

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 4>Actually like the carnival jacket.

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:14.640
<v Speaker 1>It might look good on you, it's not a good

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:15.359
<v Speaker 1>look on me.

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh, my word, but you, I thought, God, she must

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:20.600
<v Speaker 2>be I didn't notice any and you were always taking

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:22.880
<v Speaker 2>care of yourself because not a lot of people can

0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:24.439
<v Speaker 2>get away with including me.

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:28.640
<v Speaker 4>It didn't thought I didn't notice it. So I'm defending

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 4>Alison and the same thing. I guess I'm defending because

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 4>like fictional care yourself a break, Laura's gonna be like,

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 4>you know, I prefer Alison to Courtney. I didn't be kind.

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure. I'm sure Alison looked adorable.

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Courney, I have a question, though, why do I

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 1>hate myself?

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 5>Do you remember?

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 2>No? Do you remember saying were we offered choices?

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 5>Because I know some costumers always give you choices.

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 2>I remember Denise, give where whichever you're more comfortable, Like

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 2>maybe there was another T shirt? Or or if there wasn't,

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 2>could you have said I don't want to wear this.

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:05.120
<v Speaker 3>I well, we were frustrated. That's why they replaced the costumer. Right,

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:07.120
<v Speaker 3>So I was not the only one who was frustrated.

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 3>I look around other people like they did a better

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:12.240
<v Speaker 3>jump speaking up for themselves. Like Vanessa said she brought

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 3>stuff from home. I was like, you can do that.

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 1>I think I.

0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 3>Felt I didn't feel comfortable in what I was given

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 3>to wear for the most part, and I sort of went, okay,

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 3>I'll take that. But it was the lesser of two evils.

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't. I wasn't like I can't wait to wear

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 1>this right, you know, No.

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 5>I could see that for sure.

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 2>I always wanted to wear something like cool or even

0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:34.240
<v Speaker 2>if you're just hanging around. That was like the customer

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 2>that has to tell a story is like, you're just

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:41.719
<v Speaker 2>hanging around so here. This is in my mind, a

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 2>striped T shirt and jeans cut off jeans halfway down

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 2>the thigh are the hanging around outfit. But I always

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:50.760
<v Speaker 2>wanted to be like, why can't you be Joe you

0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 2>later hanging around something cooler and prettier, like I.

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 4>Don't care about the story he always does.

0:29:58.000 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Why can't I hang on in an evening gown like

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I always sweat?

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:04.080
<v Speaker 5>For David? Are you always in sweats at home?

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 4>I always? I call it loungewear I do like I

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 4>do like lounge wear.

0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 5>I love lounge sweats.

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 2>I know that's what I means, sweats loungewear.

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Then I put it on a dress to go out.

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Then immediately when I get home I put on you

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 3>know that. I obviously the pandemic was awful for everything

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:26.920
<v Speaker 3>in every way except companies really up their loungewear did right, And.

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm still wearing I'm still looking for their loungewear lounge weear.

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes.

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Here we are with Jane and Michael in the apartment,

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 2>and the group kind of follows in and everyone comes.

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 4>Jane invites everybody in, come on in.

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of out of her body at this time,

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 1>come on out.

0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Every Maybe she intuitively doesn't trust him like I want,

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, like when you don't want to be our

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:50.920
<v Speaker 2>own one person, you just bring everyone. Well.

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 3>I think it connects to what we were talking about

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 3>it she's taking care of everybody else instead I need to.

0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 4>Go face instead of saying that come on in. Everybody

0:30:58.440 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 4>went in.

0:30:58.760 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Let me make you something to eat, let me make

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 1>you all comfortable.

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:05.400
<v Speaker 2>But also she needs that comfort. She needed it too,

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 2>I think, I mean, I mean, jeez, we're loving the group.

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 2>They must have loved each other in the show the

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 2>character yeah maybe you know so. Rhonda is telling Jane

0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 2>that she knows it's happened to lots of people, including

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 2>her mom, and then Alison agrees, and she says again,

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 2>someone else says, this is the way the body's way

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 2>of taking care of something that isn't right, and then

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Jane says, why is everyone always saying that because the

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 2>doctor said something like that too. But and then we

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 2>have Jake follows Michael into the kitchen and says, you

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 2>need to talk another thing of trying to get him

0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 2>to express himself, and he's like, no, I just need

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 2>to take care of Jane.

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I liked that it was Jake too. Yeah, right, I

0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 1>thought that was an interesting choice.

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:51.479
<v Speaker 4>And it's also like all the things that the girls

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:55.240
<v Speaker 4>are trying to say to comfort Jane, those are all true.

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 4>It's just there's nothing right to say. There is nothing

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 4>that can ever feel like the right thing to say,

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 4>both for the person who's you know, searching for something

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 4>to say, and then for the person who's mourning. There's

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 4>just not a perfect thing to say, and it just

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 4>isn't going to feel right no matter what. And I

0:32:13.040 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 4>just I felt like that was happening in that scene.

0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 4>You know, she's like, why does everybody say that? And

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 4>it's like, well, it's not not true, but it's also

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:23.920
<v Speaker 4>like not comforting, you know, like there's just not a

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:26.720
<v Speaker 4>right thing to say. And so I thought that was

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 4>depicted very well.

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's kind of like if when somebody's parent dies,

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:34.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, and people say, well, that's life.

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 5>You know, she lived alone.

0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 1>It's like that's just life, Like that's just.

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 5>Science, and like that's.

0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 2>Just and it's kind of like that may be true,

0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 2>but it's not very comfortings.

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:47.600
<v Speaker 3>Just the only thing in that situation really helped, just

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 3>saying I'm so sorry, yeah, and just that I'm here.

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 3>Letting that be it, right, I'm sorry, and the thing

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 3>but you know, as we get older, most of us

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 3>have lost a parent, and it's very different when you're

0:32:57.120 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 3>not younger trying when you go, i'm so sorry, I

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 3>know what that is. I'm here if you need me, right,

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 3>that's all we really can offer. And just to say,

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 3>same with if you've been through a miscarriage, you just say, oh, sweetie,

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm so sorry, I know that pain.

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:10.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm here. Yeah.

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 3>That I think is helpful, but to discount it. We're

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 3>trying to make it okay, but like you said, you can't.

0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 3>Only time comes close to making it okay. Yeah, makes

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 3>it more okay.

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 2>And I think also just to finish on that one thought.

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 2>It's enough that people around you, like you just don't

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 2>want to be there alone. It's enough that people are

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:32.280
<v Speaker 2>just there, like they don't have to be perfect when

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 2>there's a grief or something horrible happens to someone. The

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 2>rest of us don't have to be perfect and how

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 2>to know how to do it, but we're there, And

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 2>I think, like that is the power of that apartment building. Oh,

0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 2>that's so sweet to this point, up to you know, a.

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 5>Few episodes, we're gonna that's all gonna change. We're gonna

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 5>wish they.

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:50.800
<v Speaker 4>All lived alone. Somebody's gonna try to blow the place up.

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:55.960
<v Speaker 2>But all right, So then when everyone leaves, it is

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Jane in bed, and Jane and Michael are alone in

0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:01.239
<v Speaker 2>their apartment building, and he's in the bathroom staring at

0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 2>himself and the water's running. Jane's in bed and calls

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 2>for him to come in, and she comes in and share.

0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:09.279
<v Speaker 3>Deesn't he say to Jake and that other scene, it's

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 3>not about me, right, like gaving time for my feelings

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:13.640
<v Speaker 3>sort of, Yeah, I got to take.

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Care of her, got to take care of exactly.

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:17.879
<v Speaker 2>So he kind of is, I think in Survival mode,

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Like, he comes in, he's

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:21.800
<v Speaker 2>we see him for a brief moment in the bathroom

0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 2>shower what's really going on, which is things are not okay,

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:28.399
<v Speaker 2>he is not okay. But then he goes into take

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:30.359
<v Speaker 2>care mode and he comes in and he scoops her

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:33.879
<v Speaker 2>up and takes her into his arms, lying down the bed,

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 2>and she lays down on his chest and says how

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:40.239
<v Speaker 2>she feels, and he's kind of just there doing his role.

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:43.360
<v Speaker 4>So you the writing's really good.

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:46.279
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's real depth to this motim He used

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 2>to know that, you know, which is really cool because

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 2>it's just on the surface he's doing that, and it's important.

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 2>It's not the whole of what's going on with him,

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 2>which we will find out. And again, this is a

0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:01.359
<v Speaker 2>very vulnerable, mature adulting thing that they're doing. I've never

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 2>seen these two. This is profound what they're dealing with

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:06.759
<v Speaker 2>in that moment. It's just another vulnerable moment that I

0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 2>was like, Wow, these people are being forced to grow up,

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 2>which I think is what the twenties are about, which

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:13.440
<v Speaker 2>is what Darren wanted the show to be about, not

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 2>just what's my next job? But you do have to

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 2>go from when you're in college, you have other problems.

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:22.880
<v Speaker 2>When you're in your thirties, you have other problems. First

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 2>happened in the twenties and stuff. You know. Billy comes

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 2>in shirtless. Alison's looking out the window. She's also having

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:42.840
<v Speaker 2>a thoughtful moment of what's going on. And this is

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:46.600
<v Speaker 2>very like a soft moment we start out. Remember I

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:49.280
<v Speaker 2>was saying about like scenes, they start out one energy

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:52.040
<v Speaker 2>and then it ends in another. This is kind of soft.

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:56.880
<v Speaker 2>She's melancholi. She's being thoughtful, and she confesses that she

0:35:56.960 --> 0:36:00.560
<v Speaker 2>was thinking about Jane and that it's a death loss.

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 2>And Billy says that it makes their fight seem like

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 2>no big deal and that they both overreacted, and Allison said, no,

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:16.800
<v Speaker 2>I didn't overreact. You you overreacted. And you're also staring

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 2>at my chest.

0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:21.880
<v Speaker 5>So he's like, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not.

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:27.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't do that, and Allison says, you know, I

0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:30.640
<v Speaker 2>don't think this roommate experiment is working. And then he

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:33.720
<v Speaker 2>says a lot of people live plutonically, men and women

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 2>all over the world, and she's like, yeah, but they're mature.

0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 2>She's basically still clocking him on his immaturity. Yeah, yes

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:41.920
<v Speaker 2>at the end and just saying is which is not

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:42.720
<v Speaker 2>a bad choice.

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:45.319
<v Speaker 3>As the show goes on, we find out why I

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:47.560
<v Speaker 3>was like, man, Allison, chill pill, Yeah.

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:51.120
<v Speaker 4>What do you say about Alison? I think she was

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:53.879
<v Speaker 4>she had a little sensitivity and she's like, wait, you're

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:56.480
<v Speaker 4>you're looking at my chest, you know, And and in

0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:59.839
<v Speaker 4>a way that maybe came more from her security than

0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:03.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about Allison's insecurity, then from Billy actually, and

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:06.200
<v Speaker 4>then it just caused this thing like now he can't

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 4>not look at her chest and she's like what you know?

0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:12.520
<v Speaker 4>So it did come from a place of insecurity.

0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:14.360
<v Speaker 2>But we are at the point in the episode where

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 2>these people are just starting to feel what they're really feeling.

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:20.840
<v Speaker 2>So you haven't said what it's all about yet, Michael

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 2>hasn't said what it's all about yet. His vulnerability your

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:26.360
<v Speaker 2>cause of your testiness. You're just being in the feelings

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:26.719
<v Speaker 2>right now.

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:28.319
<v Speaker 3>So but also I think it's the intensity to you

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:31.239
<v Speaker 3>because in the beginning, obviously Allison's opening up some flirtation,

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 3>like we're buying each other dinner.

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:33.640
<v Speaker 1>She's setting this up.

0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:36.400
<v Speaker 3>So then when he disappoints her, he disappoints her double

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 3>because she's starting to think of him as a romantic partner,

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:40.359
<v Speaker 3>whether she's willing to admit it to herself or not.

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:44.200
<v Speaker 3>So when this falls apart, she's really mad, like maybe

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:47.440
<v Speaker 3>it's not working. It's the disappointment of maybe you're not

0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:49.719
<v Speaker 3>my guy. Yeah, so I think that was happening too.

0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:50.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, for sure, I agree.

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 4>But meanwhile, in real life.

0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:59.360
<v Speaker 3>We were like, rabbits, you're really annoying me.

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:02.040
<v Speaker 4>Acting there to get to lay hands off.

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:04.320
<v Speaker 5>Very funny.

0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 2>And then while that's happening across the courtyard and Jane

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:12.680
<v Speaker 2>and Michael's apartment, Uh, it's in the morning and she's

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 2>having a horrible nightmare that they have this new baby,

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 2>and it's kind of shown as a dream and that

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:24.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of handheld camera thing. Yeah, they're holding this baby,

0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:28.000
<v Speaker 2>and then of course she takes the blanket off the

0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:29.359
<v Speaker 2>baby and there's nothing there.

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:30.880
<v Speaker 1>That was devastating.

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:33.760
<v Speaker 3>That was a scene where you really see the planning,

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:35.840
<v Speaker 3>Like you have fantasies when you when you want to

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 3>have a baby and you find out you're pregnant, you're

0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:39.239
<v Speaker 3>already planning and fantasizing.

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 1>You have all these ideas. So when you know if

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:42.240
<v Speaker 1>you lose the baby.

0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 5>You lose all of that everything.

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:47.240
<v Speaker 2>And the very next scene is when Michael is putting

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 2>away the crib and the stuffed animals downstairs and the

0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:54.160
<v Speaker 2>storage room, like the lock he puts on the fence,

0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 2>and it's just like all of that in his mind

0:38:57.040 --> 0:38:59.279
<v Speaker 2>and his heart is looking forward to being a dad.

0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:03.880
<v Speaker 2>It's just folded in the underneath the stairs, really abrupt

0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:07.239
<v Speaker 2>and comes back up into the apartment and she's like,

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:09.439
<v Speaker 2>where'd you put it? He says, down in the storage room.

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:13.080
<v Speaker 2>She says, I made some toast and there's coffee, and

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 2>he's like, oh, yeah, I can't really stay.

0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:16.200
<v Speaker 5>I have to get to the hospital.

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 2>Once again. She's like, no, I'll be fine. He goes,

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 2>I'll stay if you want. You know, I'm gonna be

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 2>the good dad, the good husband. She's like, no, I'm fine.

0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:26.439
<v Speaker 2>He called his mom. Are you going to call your mom?

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:29.200
<v Speaker 2>She says, I will tonight and tell her, and then

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 2>he leaves. And then we're at the hospital and our

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 2>favorite little new guest star Kimberly and Michael. She says

0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:42.879
<v Speaker 2>she's sorry about the baby, but she's also being kind

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:47.160
<v Speaker 2>of jokey, which I thought was inappropriate, calling him doctor

0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:49.279
<v Speaker 2>Rushmore because you're not feeling your feelings.

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 5>And then he's like, I'm what do you mean.

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:53.279
<v Speaker 2>You don't know what you're talking about, and he's but

0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:56.279
<v Speaker 2>she's rushing, he's rushing through things. So she calls him

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 2>doctor Rushmore, you know you're in denial, and he goes,

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:03.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm not in and you're supposed to be a surgeon.

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:06.360
<v Speaker 2>You're an in turn to be a surgeon, not a headshrink.

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 5>So basically, leave me alone.

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:09.440
<v Speaker 4>A little foreshadowing there.

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she apologizes for being too joky as he leaves.

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 2>So Billy and Allison are in their apartment again and

0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Alison is getting out of the shower but she's in

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 2>the shower and he yells through the door, I'm going

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 2>to shoot hers. She says nothing, and he goes, look,

0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:32.680
<v Speaker 2>I just want to tell you I'm sorry.

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 5>For being joking.

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:36.200
<v Speaker 2>I was a class clown in high school and college,

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:42.000
<v Speaker 2>and it's just easier laughing getting a laughing than being yourself.

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:44.320
<v Speaker 3>I thought he was so sweet in the scene. Yeah,

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:47.480
<v Speaker 3>I was like, Alison, go to shooters and he's adorable.

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:51.480
<v Speaker 3>He was so vulnerable and sweet. I really thought he

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:52.280
<v Speaker 3>did a great job.

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 2>With So you were having a moment Alison looking at

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:59.600
<v Speaker 2>herself after the shower in the mirror, which was now

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:02.399
<v Speaker 2>we're going to she's really starting to face what's really

0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 2>going on underneath, Yeah, underneath the testiness, which means also

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 2>the sensitivity, but she expresses it in testiness, right, So

0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:16.360
<v Speaker 2>she's having that totally exposed moment and really realizing what

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 2>she went through. And Jane and Michael apartment night, so

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 2>she's on the phone telling her mom what happened, and

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 2>he's eavesdropping. There's knock in the front door, opens it.

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 2>There's a rope which ends up being a leash. They

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 2>follow it and there's Sandy and Jake with a little

0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:39.279
<v Speaker 2>puppy and Jingg with that huge, like fifty pound bag

0:41:39.320 --> 0:41:41.120
<v Speaker 2>of dog food and they're all fitted.

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:46.399
<v Speaker 3>And weren't you just like, no, never get someone an

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:49.920
<v Speaker 3>animal as a gift unless you've really discussed it.

0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:51.920
<v Speaker 1>But Jenny's get someone.

0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:55.800
<v Speaker 4>I know, I'm very happy. She was like yay puppy,

0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:57.840
<v Speaker 4>and she seemed to be very happy.

0:41:57.920 --> 0:41:59.279
<v Speaker 1>Why weren't you just cringing?

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:04.120
<v Speaker 4>Like completely reasonable for Michael to go, uh, we you know, no,

0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:07.960
<v Speaker 4>no dogs allowed. And wait a minute.

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:09.880
<v Speaker 3>But just as we go into the holiday season, just

0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:12.279
<v Speaker 3>a reminder because the shelters are so full after the

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:17.480
<v Speaker 3>holidays unless you've all agreed no animals as gifts, they're

0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 3>not toys.

0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:21.400
<v Speaker 4>Good point. So after the holidays, people they returned on

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 4>you made.

0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:24.959
<v Speaker 3>Yes, people get animals as gifts as will be fun,

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:29.040
<v Speaker 3>and then they're not prepared whatever they take them the shelters.

0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:33.640
<v Speaker 2>It's very sad before I get a dog, and I

0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:37.279
<v Speaker 2>haven't gotten one five years now because I'm still thinking

0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 2>about it, because I kind of like the freedom. Dogs

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:41.839
<v Speaker 2>are a lot, as we find out, coming a lot

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:45.959
<v Speaker 2>of yummy, but at any rate, there they are those

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:49.320
<v Speaker 2>friends and everyone's just trying to make people feel better

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:56.879
<v Speaker 2>instead of dealing with what is really going on. Next

0:42:56.920 --> 0:42:59.080
<v Speaker 2>scene is I'm waking up and there's a mess everywhere

0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:00.920
<v Speaker 2>and the dog's torn and made a mess.

0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:04.000
<v Speaker 3>Turn like a crazy mess, like like one hundred teenagers came.

0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:11.320
<v Speaker 4>In total destruction. Yeah, everything everywhere. I just love again.

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Moments like that make me think of what really went

0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 2>on on set and like the props person or like

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 2>around you always love.

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:21.680
<v Speaker 4>Fancy Malone is like no more. It was always more

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 4>and more and then later later and fully and like

0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 4>sounded like crunch make it crunch you walk, make it

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:31.160
<v Speaker 4>just crunch underneath their feet, and then the dog lifts

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:35.240
<v Speaker 4>its leg at the very punctuating the scene Michael's medical bag. Okay,

0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:37.319
<v Speaker 4>I was going to say I missed something that was

0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:39.719
<v Speaker 4>his medical bag was his medical bag. And literally the

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:41.080
<v Speaker 4>dog like sort of looks at them.

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Like if you yeah, But that's a train to act, right,

0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:46.960
<v Speaker 2>that to train the dog to lift you.

0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Like, although is thinking about getting a dog.

0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:52.480
<v Speaker 3>Every rescue dog I've ever had, and I've had several,

0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:54.279
<v Speaker 3>they peep for a little bit.

0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:56.160
<v Speaker 1>When they get home. You can train them out of it.

0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:58.120
<v Speaker 3>But just so you don't think, oh, no, they peede,

0:43:58.160 --> 0:43:59.240
<v Speaker 3>they have to go back to the shelter.

0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:00.680
<v Speaker 1>They don't. It's trainable.

0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:04.239
<v Speaker 2>But also maybe don't leave them to run rampant in

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:06.120
<v Speaker 2>your living quarters even.

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:08.120
<v Speaker 1>So, like you know, they'll look at you a couple

0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:09.040
<v Speaker 1>of mp. They don't know.

0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:11.480
<v Speaker 3>They're not trying to be bad, they just don't know

0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:13.839
<v Speaker 3>what they're doing. Yeah, but they're training.

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:15.320
<v Speaker 2>I was a little shocked that they came out and

0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:17.560
<v Speaker 2>they're like, I'm like, you left that dog out there

0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:20.120
<v Speaker 2>or whatever create or no, like.

0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:22.720
<v Speaker 4>Doggy door or something. You were shocked.

0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:25.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, you take your new dog to bed

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:29.840
<v Speaker 3>with you. What is wrong with these people? My my

0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:32.160
<v Speaker 3>pug I first, when I first rescued her, she slept

0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:34.359
<v Speaker 3>literally with her head in the crook of my neck.

0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:37.640
<v Speaker 3>Of course pugs nurses A yeah, but I was like,

0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:42.640
<v Speaker 3>worth it, worth it.

0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 4>Yes, coming out in the morning, Jane takes the dog

0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 4>out on a leash and tries to get the dog

0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 4>to listen to a command. She tells it, sit it.

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:50.680
<v Speaker 4>The dog will not listen. Sandy comes up and says, well,

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 4>you know, training takes time, and counterintuitively removes the leash, like,

0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:57.239
<v Speaker 4>look at this, training takes time. Let me just take

0:44:57.239 --> 0:44:59.759
<v Speaker 4>this leash off, And to no one's surprise except for

0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:03.719
<v Speaker 4>and Sandy's, the dog runs off, so they chase the

0:45:03.800 --> 0:45:06.960
<v Speaker 4>dog out of the court. Then we go back to

0:45:06.960 --> 0:45:10.440
<v Speaker 4>Billy's and Billy and Allison's apartment, where Jake is with

0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:13.640
<v Speaker 4>Billy trying to pick the lock on Allison's room door

0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 4>at Billy's request, which seems like not a that idea. Now, okay,

0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:23.280
<v Speaker 4>now we're on Alison's side here. Jake is telling Billy,

0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:25.080
<v Speaker 4>you know, once, once we get it unlocked, there is

0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:27.320
<v Speaker 4>no way to lock it again. Alison is gonna know

0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:29.640
<v Speaker 4>you're in trouble, dude. This is this is going to

0:45:29.719 --> 0:45:33.640
<v Speaker 4>turn into war. And yeah, he justifies it though this

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:36.040
<v Speaker 4>already is war. And let me take back my tapes.

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:38.399
<v Speaker 3>There's no way to lock it except to lock out

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:39.120
<v Speaker 3>and go out the window.

0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:43.359
<v Speaker 4>You could do that. Take your tape, lock the door,

0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:46.240
<v Speaker 4>climb out the window. But he takes the tapes and

0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:48.919
<v Speaker 4>he throws some trash, misses the trash and doesn't even

0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:50.480
<v Speaker 4>leave it, like, leave it, Jake, don't pick it up.

0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:52.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to stick it to Alison.

0:45:55.239 --> 0:45:55.839
<v Speaker 1>Dress you war.

0:45:56.120 --> 0:46:00.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, real, sure, billy. She won't let me wear her

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 4>freaking black bra.

0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:46:02.960 --> 0:46:06.280
<v Speaker 4>So then we're back in the hospital where doctor Levin

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:09.280
<v Speaker 4>is rating Michael in front of all the other medical

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:13.000
<v Speaker 4>interns during rounds because he didn't follow routine procedure. He

0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:16.560
<v Speaker 4>sort of mismedicated, and Michael is sort of defending himself,

0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:20.800
<v Speaker 4>and doctor Levin sends Michael Holmes says, get your act together.

0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:24.799
<v Speaker 4>So we're supposed to assume that Michael is still sort

0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 4>of not himself and he's not able to think clearly.

0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:31.480
<v Speaker 4>It's affecting his job. So he storms into the hospital

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:36.359
<v Speaker 4>staff room. Kimberly follows, Michael says, you know, I messed up.

0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:40.840
<v Speaker 4>Doctor Levin was right. Kimberly encourages him, however, saying, you

0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 4>know everyone messes up. I do think you're really not

0:46:43.560 --> 0:46:46.520
<v Speaker 4>letting yourself feel anything and using work not to deal

0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:50.279
<v Speaker 4>with what has happened. Not a great idea. So he

0:46:50.280 --> 0:46:53.839
<v Speaker 4>doesn't want to hear her psycho analyzation right rushing it

0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:55.400
<v Speaker 4>she is, she's.

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they well, I get it now because I know

0:46:56.840 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 2>who Krimbly turned out to be. She's not like the

0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:01.360
<v Speaker 2>most empathetics, that'sitive normal person.

0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:03.040
<v Speaker 5>But his wife just had a.

0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:06.400
<v Speaker 2>Miscarriage, and she keeps pushing like, you're not doing this,

0:47:06.480 --> 0:47:08.400
<v Speaker 2>You're not you know, feeling your feelings. It is your

0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:12.320
<v Speaker 2>feelings is as trying the relationship. She's trying to force

0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:15.040
<v Speaker 2>intimacy between those two. That's what she's trying.

0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:17.680
<v Speaker 3>But at that time she was just she may have

0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:19.719
<v Speaker 3>been recurring in that character. So a lot of what

0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:21.920
<v Speaker 3>they created here, what Thomas talked about, they worked on,

0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:24.840
<v Speaker 3>is probably led to her character later, like the strength

0:47:24.920 --> 0:47:25.560
<v Speaker 3>she comes in.

0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:27.759
<v Speaker 1>With this character. I think she brought that.

0:47:27.960 --> 0:47:29.799
<v Speaker 3>I think she brought that, and then they were like, hey,

0:47:29.880 --> 0:47:31.360
<v Speaker 3>that works, let's bring that back.

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:33.840
<v Speaker 4>But this relationship with them establishes it in front of

0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:36.360
<v Speaker 4>the audience as something that's been going on for a while.

0:47:36.680 --> 0:47:39.080
<v Speaker 4>They already this level of comfortability where she can say

0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:42.160
<v Speaker 4>these things to him, and so she's like, you know,

0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:45.799
<v Speaker 4>you need to feel your feelings and and then she

0:47:45.840 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 4>goes on to say, you know, I care about you,

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:51.000
<v Speaker 4>and he snaps at her saying, yeah, you know some

0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:53.319
<v Speaker 4>you're just some intern that doesn't have a life of

0:47:53.360 --> 0:47:57.040
<v Speaker 4>your own, and you know, sort of go to hell

0:47:57.120 --> 0:47:59.120
<v Speaker 4>man scene they have a little.

0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:01.719
<v Speaker 3>Fight like very million really, which is very intense that

0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:04.000
<v Speaker 3>you wouldn't have with a normal coworker, right, which they

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:05.960
<v Speaker 3>already intense their relationship.

0:48:06.040 --> 0:48:08.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but it's an interesting timing that, like, while his

0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:11.080
<v Speaker 4>wife is losing a baby and they're having this really

0:48:11.160 --> 0:48:15.279
<v Speaker 4>big thing happened in their marriage, he's also showing us

0:48:15.760 --> 0:48:17.960
<v Speaker 4>that he's got this relationship at work.

0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, but I to his characters favor, I think he's

0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:29.600
<v Speaker 2>not fanning the flames. He's not flirting back. He keeps

0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:33.000
<v Speaker 2>pushing back and she keeps just keeps going at it.

0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:35.160
<v Speaker 2>He's like, you know, you're not a shrink leving alone

0:48:35.320 --> 0:48:37.880
<v Speaker 2>first time then a second time, Like I didn't see Michael.

0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I've seen him before, and I'll see him again flirting

0:48:41.080 --> 0:48:43.279
<v Speaker 2>and betraying his wife. I didn't think he was doing

0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:46.080
<v Speaker 2>the betrayal, right, they worked together twenty hours a day,

0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:47.440
<v Speaker 2>so that wasn't a problem.

0:48:47.480 --> 0:48:50.640
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, it's just interesting the timing awareness relations seeds.

0:48:50.680 --> 0:48:54.000
<v Speaker 4>And then we see, yeah, it's just established right now that.

0:48:55.360 --> 0:48:57.120
<v Speaker 1>She's great boundaries with him.

0:48:57.239 --> 0:48:59.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, no, she wants what she wants.

0:48:59.520 --> 0:49:01.680
<v Speaker 4>So then we cut back to the beach where Jane

0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:03.640
<v Speaker 4>and Matt are taking a walk on the beach with

0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:05.840
<v Speaker 4>the dog, who is now named Jimmy.

0:49:06.800 --> 0:49:10.320
<v Speaker 2>It went from Mutt, which is what Jake mean, right, dog,

0:49:10.840 --> 0:49:13.480
<v Speaker 2>but Jimmy and then they'll end with another name.

0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:16.560
<v Speaker 4>And Jane reveals that it's really the first terrible thing

0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:19.480
<v Speaker 4>that's happened to her, and she realizes that's exceptional, you know,

0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:23.479
<v Speaker 4>And and Matt is really sympathetic in saying that nothing

0:49:23.520 --> 0:49:25.600
<v Speaker 4>can really prepare you for loss, and it's good that

0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:28.080
<v Speaker 4>she's expressing her feelings, and that's when Jane says she

0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:30.560
<v Speaker 4>wishes Michael could express his feelings in the same way.

0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:35.320
<v Speaker 4>At that point, Jane realizes, where's the dog? Yeah, And

0:49:35.520 --> 0:49:37.319
<v Speaker 4>Jane and Matt run up the beach and I thought

0:49:37.320 --> 0:49:43.000
<v Speaker 4>I caught Matt going dog. Yeah yeah, dog dog. Well

0:49:43.040 --> 0:49:46.040
<v Speaker 4>that should do it. That's a trained dog. Dog.

0:49:46.520 --> 0:49:46.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Funny, Yeah, it's funny.

0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:51.520
<v Speaker 4>I think that it was a dog thing. Yeah.

0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:52.760
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:55.680
<v Speaker 4>So then back at the courtyard, Billy has set up

0:49:55.719 --> 0:49:58.200
<v Speaker 4>deck chairs outside the apartment and he is drinking and

0:49:58.200 --> 0:50:02.080
<v Speaker 4>playing loud music with Jake from a boombox. When Alison comes.

0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:06.879
<v Speaker 3>Home time and a like so obnoxious, trying to prove

0:50:06.920 --> 0:50:09.560
<v Speaker 3>up maturious by drinking and playing a boom box on

0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:10.640
<v Speaker 3>the battery, and they're.

0:50:10.800 --> 0:50:12.960
<v Speaker 4>Sort of like, yeah, this is how I'm gonna show you.

0:50:13.000 --> 0:50:16.279
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure, yeah, this is how what a child. And

0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:20.120
<v Speaker 4>Alison is already like I'm over you, guys. Both She

0:50:20.239 --> 0:50:21.000
<v Speaker 4>goes into.

0:50:20.760 --> 0:50:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Her play vest and I are very mad at you.

0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:26.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure was a very cute best I final notice

0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:28.719
<v Speaker 4>may be the episode that that where they decided to

0:50:28.760 --> 0:50:29.640
<v Speaker 4>switch consume.

0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:33.040
<v Speaker 2>There are a lot of vests in this Did you

0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:38.680
<v Speaker 2>realize there's a ton of yes seasonal, Yes, I wanted

0:50:39.000 --> 0:50:39.520
<v Speaker 2>best Yeah.

0:50:39.640 --> 0:50:42.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So but Alison goes inside the apartment wearing her

0:50:42.840 --> 0:50:46.160
<v Speaker 4>vest and comes immediately back out because she's realized that

0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:48.560
<v Speaker 4>is broken into her room. You went into my room

0:50:48.600 --> 0:50:50.480
<v Speaker 4>and he he says, yeah, well I needed the tapes

0:50:50.480 --> 0:50:53.759
<v Speaker 4>that you borrowed and never returned, and Alison connects the

0:50:53.880 --> 0:50:56.040
<v Speaker 4>dots realizes that Jake was the one to let her in,

0:50:56.880 --> 0:50:59.680
<v Speaker 4>and then Jake says to Alison, Alison, you're blowing the

0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:04.000
<v Speaker 4>out of proportion, which I thought nod. You've broken into

0:51:04.040 --> 0:51:08.719
<v Speaker 4>her room. Wait a minute, now, can we defind Alison here?

0:51:08.840 --> 0:51:11.080
<v Speaker 4>She is not blowing out they broke into her room.

0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:15.560
<v Speaker 2>In this because usually Jake's aid like the forefront of everything,

0:51:15.640 --> 0:51:18.759
<v Speaker 2>all this drama, you know, and he's like his big

0:51:19.160 --> 0:51:21.719
<v Speaker 2>his big faux pas here is like, I think you're

0:51:21.760 --> 0:51:25.839
<v Speaker 2>overreacting and you say, shut up, but he's probably Jake.

0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:31.600
<v Speaker 4>So then Allison goes to Billy's room and says, how

0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:33.240
<v Speaker 4>would you like it if I went through your stuff?

0:51:33.360 --> 0:51:35.440
<v Speaker 4>And she's going through his stuff. She's like, I wouldn't

0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:39.000
<v Speaker 4>really mind, and then Allison says, oh yeah. And then

0:51:39.160 --> 0:51:41.280
<v Speaker 4>there's Playboy magazines.

0:51:40.760 --> 0:51:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Which it's called I think Playmate because they couldn't Yeah.

0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:49.839
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Playmate, play Playboy like magazines, and Alison's oh, yeah,

0:51:49.920 --> 0:51:51.920
<v Speaker 4>well look at you you're just you're so sexist and

0:51:51.960 --> 0:51:57.239
<v Speaker 4>you're preoccupied with women's memories. Uh huh, because we can't

0:51:57.239 --> 0:51:57.800
<v Speaker 4>say boobs.

0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:00.720
<v Speaker 1>I think I was trying to say more mature.

0:52:01.520 --> 0:52:04.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, all right, both of you, I guess, so titties.

0:52:04.440 --> 0:52:06.520
<v Speaker 1>And then I was the one in charge.

0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:09.320
<v Speaker 4>All of this is true. They can't say boobs or

0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:11.560
<v Speaker 4>women's bazoomblans.

0:52:14.040 --> 0:52:17.879
<v Speaker 5>All the women. What did you say?

0:52:22.360 --> 0:52:26.759
<v Speaker 4>We can't say that, but we shouldn't anyway. Okay, moving on,

0:52:27.239 --> 0:52:34.920
<v Speaker 4>So Alison upset and accuses Billy basically, let's get to

0:52:35.160 --> 0:52:37.920
<v Speaker 4>the gist, is that you're sexist and you're preoccupied with

0:52:37.960 --> 0:52:39.520
<v Speaker 4>this stuff. She's pissed.

0:52:39.800 --> 0:52:40.400
<v Speaker 5>She's pissed.

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<v Speaker 4>So back at Jane and Michael's apartment, Jane is hanging

0:52:44.000 --> 0:52:46.600
<v Speaker 4>up the phone when Michael walks in. Jane is worried

0:52:46.719 --> 0:52:49.560
<v Speaker 4>since he left the hospital hours ago, but he tells

0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:52.400
<v Speaker 4>her that he's just been driving around thinking about stuff,

0:52:52.600 --> 0:52:54.840
<v Speaker 4>and that's when Jane reveals to him that she lost

0:52:55.160 --> 0:53:01.520
<v Speaker 4>the dog. Yeah, so Michael gets angry and Meane gets

0:53:01.520 --> 0:53:04.239
<v Speaker 4>angry back, saying, wait a minute, you're you're you're angry

0:53:04.280 --> 0:53:08.120
<v Speaker 4>about this dog and you're blaming me for losing this

0:53:08.280 --> 0:53:10.320
<v Speaker 4>is like you're blaming me for losing the baby, and

0:53:10.440 --> 0:53:12.360
<v Speaker 4>you're more angry about me losing the dog. But I

0:53:12.640 --> 0:53:15.920
<v Speaker 4>can feel that this is you think I'm yeah, I'm

0:53:16.000 --> 0:53:16.600
<v Speaker 4>at fault.

0:53:16.360 --> 0:53:19.239
<v Speaker 1>Which actually that was a really clever way.

0:53:19.280 --> 0:53:21.480
<v Speaker 2>And I thought, what do you mean the writers with

0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:22.640
<v Speaker 2>the writing with with.

0:53:22.800 --> 0:53:24.480
<v Speaker 3>The lose it and have that be the thing that

0:53:24.520 --> 0:53:27.280
<v Speaker 3>triggers you, because he can get mad about that obviously,

0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:29.920
<v Speaker 3>as we say, if it's hysterical, it's historical.

0:53:30.480 --> 0:53:31.319
<v Speaker 4>Obviously it's not.

0:53:31.440 --> 0:53:34.759
<v Speaker 1>About the thing he's talking about. And she picks up, Yeah,

0:53:34.760 --> 0:53:35.600
<v Speaker 1>that was a smart to do it.

0:53:35.719 --> 0:53:38.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she calls him out and he admits it. I

0:53:38.200 --> 0:53:38.560
<v Speaker 4>blame you.

0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:40.600
<v Speaker 2>And then I thought he did that so well that

0:53:40.719 --> 0:53:43.600
<v Speaker 2>they did that seem so well again doing all this

0:53:43.719 --> 0:53:46.640
<v Speaker 2>grown up intense stuff, not kind of in a Melrose

0:53:46.719 --> 0:53:51.239
<v Speaker 2>just dramatic situation. This is like real deep stuff. And

0:53:51.360 --> 0:53:54.600
<v Speaker 2>I just thought Thomas did that really well. As Michael

0:53:54.719 --> 0:53:57.040
<v Speaker 2>like he's like, yeah, yeah, that's a that's a huge

0:53:57.560 --> 0:54:01.320
<v Speaker 2>honest vulnerability to admit I did I did that is

0:54:01.360 --> 0:54:03.680
<v Speaker 2>what I'm thinking of me things because you had you

0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:05.479
<v Speaker 2>wanted to get rid of our baby.

0:54:06.160 --> 0:54:09.640
<v Speaker 4>So then and we immediately go back to the hospital

0:54:09.719 --> 0:54:15.839
<v Speaker 4>then where Michael is helping Kimberly uh with the vending

0:54:15.920 --> 0:54:21.160
<v Speaker 4>machine and apologizes to her mm hmm interestingly, and Kimberly

0:54:21.400 --> 0:54:23.720
<v Speaker 4>said she thought about what Michael had said and realizes

0:54:23.760 --> 0:54:25.640
<v Speaker 4>that she doesn't have a life outside the hospital. He's

0:54:25.680 --> 0:54:29.800
<v Speaker 4>not wrong, and but she says, I was hoping that

0:54:29.880 --> 0:54:33.239
<v Speaker 4>we were developing a relationship and Jane is a lucky woman.

0:54:33.400 --> 0:54:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine very forward?

0:54:35.520 --> 0:54:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Now, you guys all were talking about this turn started

0:54:39.040 --> 0:54:43.080
<v Speaker 2>to happen when Heather, but I'm thinking, like, this is

0:54:43.160 --> 0:54:46.719
<v Speaker 2>more than Melrose two point out Melrose around the corner.

0:54:46.640 --> 0:54:49.400
<v Speaker 4>So you think this was interesting, very telling, This is

0:54:49.560 --> 0:54:50.239
<v Speaker 4>very so far.

0:54:50.320 --> 0:54:52.000
<v Speaker 2>They're like going, yeah, I only do I know you

0:54:52.040 --> 0:54:53.520
<v Speaker 2>have a wife, but she just wants a baby, and

0:54:53.600 --> 0:54:55.600
<v Speaker 2>I know you both are devastated, but I want a.

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<v Speaker 5>Thing with you and she just looks at him.

0:54:57.360 --> 0:54:59.960
<v Speaker 4>He's a very That seems to me like the yeah

0:55:00.160 --> 0:55:03.360
<v Speaker 4>version of And regardless of the way they chose to

0:55:03.440 --> 0:55:05.279
<v Speaker 4>play it, like leaning into that or not, like it

0:55:05.440 --> 0:55:08.319
<v Speaker 4>was there in the writing, like with the words your

0:55:08.360 --> 0:55:10.560
<v Speaker 4>wife is a lucky woman and if she doesn't know that,

0:55:10.680 --> 0:55:15.000
<v Speaker 4>she's a fool, Like that's for and that's no one

0:55:15.040 --> 0:55:19.280
<v Speaker 4>said she yea so or doing anything wrong. Yeah, Kimberly

0:55:19.400 --> 0:55:21.640
<v Speaker 4>is putting that in his brain. So then back to

0:55:21.920 --> 0:55:23.920
<v Speaker 4>Billy's Billy and Allison in the apartment. They're trying to

0:55:23.960 --> 0:55:25.640
<v Speaker 4>avoid each other, but they run into each other in

0:55:25.640 --> 0:55:28.840
<v Speaker 4>the kitchen. Alison explains it. She feels violated and talking

0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:31.480
<v Speaker 4>about it only makes it worse. Billy avoids eye contact,

0:55:31.600 --> 0:55:34.560
<v Speaker 4>so he's he's like, She's like, you're not looking at me,

0:55:34.640 --> 0:55:35.680
<v Speaker 4>and he's like, well, I'm afraid to.

0:55:35.880 --> 0:55:36.239
<v Speaker 5>I can't.

0:55:36.239 --> 0:55:40.640
<v Speaker 4>Even if I turn I might And so I'm trying.

0:55:40.719 --> 0:55:42.879
<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to I'm trying to be sensitive and I'm

0:55:42.880 --> 0:55:44.279
<v Speaker 4>trying not to look at you. But I don't want

0:55:44.280 --> 0:55:48.239
<v Speaker 4>to be accused of this, and and Alison says, he

0:55:48.440 --> 0:55:51.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, yeah, you know, there's no way you could

0:55:51.000 --> 0:55:53.759
<v Speaker 4>have known that what was what was going on with me?

0:55:53.920 --> 0:55:56.839
<v Speaker 4>And then she ends up sharing that her mother had

0:55:56.880 --> 0:56:00.440
<v Speaker 4>had a double misectomy after being treated for breast cancer

0:56:00.560 --> 0:56:03.160
<v Speaker 4>when Alison was a child, and that it was it

0:56:03.280 --> 0:56:06.000
<v Speaker 4>was really hard for the family, and she is very

0:56:06.120 --> 0:56:09.920
<v Speaker 4>sensitive about any and all things that tie a woman's

0:56:09.920 --> 0:56:14.400
<v Speaker 4>self esteem to her breasts and her body. And Alison

0:56:14.640 --> 0:56:19.440
<v Speaker 4>realizes that she needs to talk about things more and oh,

0:56:19.480 --> 0:56:21.719
<v Speaker 4>by the way, I knew, I always knew that you

0:56:21.800 --> 0:56:24.480
<v Speaker 4>were the class clown. But she reveals the reason for

0:56:24.560 --> 0:56:28.480
<v Speaker 4>her sensitivity and her reactions in it, So.

0:56:28.560 --> 0:56:31.359
<v Speaker 3>She wion always be so testy, and I didn't notice

0:56:31.440 --> 0:56:33.680
<v Speaker 3>until her just now talking about it, the parallels between

0:56:33.880 --> 0:56:35.800
<v Speaker 3>Michael's storyline and Alison's storyline.

0:56:35.840 --> 0:56:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Obviously things go right over.

0:56:38.200 --> 0:56:40.040
<v Speaker 4>My head because you're focused on the dresses and the

0:56:40.360 --> 0:56:40.759
<v Speaker 4>what I asked.

0:56:41.120 --> 0:56:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I may not have been looking at what was important.

0:56:42.680 --> 0:56:43.320
<v Speaker 1>I will admit that.

0:56:43.440 --> 0:56:46.000
<v Speaker 4>Now it's nice we get this recaps so we can

0:56:46.080 --> 0:56:49.239
<v Speaker 4>talk about it all together. Here's what really happened in

0:56:49.280 --> 0:56:53.440
<v Speaker 4>the episode, not just your wardrobe, but.

0:56:53.520 --> 0:56:55.640
<v Speaker 3>It's I mean it does. Then you can look back

0:56:55.680 --> 0:56:57.200
<v Speaker 3>and go, oh, that's why she was so upset. I

0:56:57.239 --> 0:56:59.520
<v Speaker 3>still wish I'd found more layers in the scenes. However,

0:57:01.520 --> 0:57:05.279
<v Speaker 3>you can understand why she had such reaction, especially when

0:57:06.239 --> 0:57:08.960
<v Speaker 3>she's clearly developing feelings for this guy, and then she

0:57:09.040 --> 0:57:10.920
<v Speaker 3>feels scared, like what if this were to happen to me?

0:57:11.080 --> 0:57:13.719
<v Speaker 3>Like what if I were to lose my breasts? Would

0:57:13.800 --> 0:57:17.880
<v Speaker 3>you still? It's so vulnerable for women. Yes, another big issue,

0:57:17.960 --> 0:57:20.640
<v Speaker 3>like they were really still left and right?

0:57:20.760 --> 0:57:22.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, big stuff.

0:57:22.240 --> 0:57:24.880
<v Speaker 2>I do. Like how what you said these parallels again,

0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:29.400
<v Speaker 2>that somebody is acting out, looking into what is a

0:57:29.480 --> 0:57:32.200
<v Speaker 2>real issue. You in the mirror, him in the mirror,

0:57:33.040 --> 0:57:36.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, triggered by the dog. But once you express it,

0:57:37.400 --> 0:57:41.880
<v Speaker 2>there's such freedom and lightness and more love in the room.

0:57:41.960 --> 0:57:42.120
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:57:42.480 --> 0:57:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Yes, the acting out is so much more of a

0:57:44.440 --> 0:57:45.960
<v Speaker 1>problem than the telling the truth.

0:57:46.120 --> 0:57:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it really opens the relationship, Jane.

0:57:50.040 --> 0:57:52.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, covering the secret takes so much more energy and

0:57:52.920 --> 0:57:55.240
<v Speaker 3>effort and anger misplaced and anger.

0:57:56.080 --> 0:57:59.360
<v Speaker 4>So on that note, we cut to the beach where

0:57:59.440 --> 0:58:04.439
<v Speaker 4>Michael comes up to Jane, who's, oh, well, after they've

0:58:04.480 --> 0:58:06.880
<v Speaker 4>put up flyers. All the gang is sort of putting

0:58:06.920 --> 0:58:08.919
<v Speaker 4>up flyers to try to find the lost dog. Maunt

0:58:08.960 --> 0:58:12.920
<v Speaker 4>and Ronda and they're talking about poor Jane and what

0:58:13.040 --> 0:58:15.840
<v Speaker 4>she's been through, and Sandy and Jane are also putting

0:58:15.880 --> 0:58:18.760
<v Speaker 4>up flyers. Michael shows up to help actually, and Jane says, wait,

0:58:18.760 --> 0:58:21.280
<v Speaker 4>why aren't you at the hospital. He says, well, actually,

0:58:21.640 --> 0:58:24.040
<v Speaker 4>you know it's because of doctor Shaw, who encouraged me

0:58:24.560 --> 0:58:28.560
<v Speaker 4>to come. And Jane says, you know, I don't know him, Yeah,

0:58:28.760 --> 0:58:30.480
<v Speaker 4>tell me about him. I don't know that dog.

0:58:30.600 --> 0:58:31.200
<v Speaker 5>I don't know him.

0:58:31.400 --> 0:58:34.560
<v Speaker 4>He says, well, actually it's her. Oh, Jane says, should

0:58:34.560 --> 0:58:37.280
<v Speaker 4>I be jealous? And Michael says probably.

0:58:38.280 --> 0:58:40.880
<v Speaker 2>So I thought the way that he Thomas chose to

0:58:40.920 --> 0:58:45.160
<v Speaker 2>play this was interesting, Yeah, because he said it in

0:58:45.240 --> 0:58:47.920
<v Speaker 2>a way you know, you're writing this and you think

0:58:47.960 --> 0:58:52.800
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna put down a you know, a little nugget

0:58:52.840 --> 0:58:55.280
<v Speaker 2>there to be worried about that in the future. But

0:58:55.440 --> 0:59:00.480
<v Speaker 2>he played it like, well, I'm a babe. Probably he

0:59:00.640 --> 0:59:04.120
<v Speaker 2>made jealous. He didn't make it like I'm gonna say

0:59:04.840 --> 0:59:06.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. He just said in a way that

0:59:06.560 --> 0:59:09.280
<v Speaker 2>didn't seem ominous or something like yeah, you.

0:59:09.280 --> 0:59:11.440
<v Speaker 4>Don't know, but it wasn't It wasn't comforting. It wasn't like,

0:59:11.520 --> 0:59:17.480
<v Speaker 4>of course not honey, like like right, But like, you know,

0:59:18.320 --> 0:59:20.960
<v Speaker 4>that is just interesting that this is the way we're

0:59:21.200 --> 0:59:23.480
<v Speaker 4>depicting the character at this point. Yeah, and the very

0:59:23.560 --> 0:59:27.440
<v Speaker 4>same episode that they lose their baby, he's also dropping

0:59:27.640 --> 0:59:33.280
<v Speaker 4>this moment of like something something could happen the episode.

0:59:33.280 --> 0:59:36.160
<v Speaker 2>But so my point to that insensitive writing is I

0:59:36.240 --> 0:59:38.959
<v Speaker 2>think Thomas as being I don't know, he's a skilled actor,

0:59:39.120 --> 0:59:41.920
<v Speaker 2>is to make the choice of being not aggressive and

0:59:42.040 --> 0:59:45.240
<v Speaker 2>not insensitive, but like like benign.

0:59:45.960 --> 0:59:48.560
<v Speaker 4>Probably it was. It was a little provocative, but.

0:59:48.680 --> 0:59:51.680
<v Speaker 2>In my opinion, I really do think it was because

0:59:51.720 --> 0:59:56.560
<v Speaker 2>if you write this down, probably on Meloe's place, would

0:59:56.600 --> 1:00:00.560
<v Speaker 2>be like yeah, probably like Jake would have done, like, yeah,

1:00:00.840 --> 1:00:01.040
<v Speaker 2>you know.

1:00:01.120 --> 1:00:01.480
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

1:00:01.680 --> 1:00:04.280
<v Speaker 3>Maybe we were starting to make the turn earlier than

1:00:04.320 --> 1:00:07.160
<v Speaker 3>we realized, Like maybe they're starting to turn to make

1:00:07.200 --> 1:00:09.760
<v Speaker 3>it a little more salacious earlier than we thought.

1:00:10.160 --> 1:00:10.200
<v Speaker 1>So.

1:00:10.520 --> 1:00:13.000
<v Speaker 4>But he does come up to Jane later, hitting on

1:00:13.040 --> 1:00:17.320
<v Speaker 4>the camaran, and he tries to sort of explain his feelings,

1:00:17.400 --> 1:00:19.520
<v Speaker 4>and he tells Jane how sorry he is and that

1:00:19.640 --> 1:00:23.120
<v Speaker 4>he really wanted the baby too. So they're back together

1:00:23.200 --> 1:00:27.120
<v Speaker 4>with their feelings and their sadness together. Then, also on

1:00:27.200 --> 1:00:29.960
<v Speaker 4>the beach run the mountain Sandy are directed by a surfer. Hey,

1:00:30.040 --> 1:00:32.360
<v Speaker 4>we think we saw a dog over there. They run

1:00:32.440 --> 1:00:35.640
<v Speaker 4>down the beach, they meet a woman who's found the dog,

1:00:35.920 --> 1:00:37.960
<v Speaker 4>who the dog had come up to her and her

1:00:38.000 --> 1:00:41.440
<v Speaker 4>beach house, and the lady tells Jane and Michael what

1:00:41.520 --> 1:00:43.720
<v Speaker 4>a great dog he is and I named him Barney,

1:00:44.360 --> 1:00:47.880
<v Speaker 4>and Michael and Jane thank her, and before they walk away,

1:00:48.200 --> 1:00:50.760
<v Speaker 4>taking Barney with them, they think, wait, well.

1:00:50.680 --> 1:00:53.000
<v Speaker 1>And she also met her clips and casually that she

1:00:53.120 --> 1:00:54.400
<v Speaker 1>just lost her husband.

1:00:56.160 --> 1:00:58.280
<v Speaker 4>To keep the do I live alone and I didn't

1:00:58.320 --> 1:01:00.320
<v Speaker 4>want to name the dog after my husband, but I

1:01:00.480 --> 1:01:02.200
<v Speaker 4>still I live alone.

1:01:02.200 --> 1:01:02.840
<v Speaker 5>I'm so sad.

1:01:03.320 --> 1:01:07.000
<v Speaker 4>So Michael and Jane decide together, I think you're thinking

1:01:07.080 --> 1:01:09.560
<v Speaker 4>what I'm thinking. We should leave this Barney dog with

1:01:10.280 --> 1:01:13.600
<v Speaker 4>this lady, this nice lady. So they do, and she's thrilled,

1:01:13.840 --> 1:01:16.360
<v Speaker 4>and Jane and Michael walk away on the beach together

1:01:16.440 --> 1:01:18.880
<v Speaker 4>saying I love you, and they walk away into the

1:01:19.000 --> 1:01:21.640
<v Speaker 4>beachy sunset. End of episode.

1:01:22.720 --> 1:01:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was sweet. I was just I thought the

1:01:25.360 --> 1:01:27.040
<v Speaker 1>whole time was what about the dog? What about the dog?

1:01:27.080 --> 1:01:28.560
<v Speaker 1>So the dog is everybody at home?

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<v Speaker 3>The dog is okay for you other dog lunatics with

1:01:30.760 --> 1:01:31.840
<v Speaker 3>they're crazy dog ladies.

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<v Speaker 1>The dog is okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Is going to be good for a beach dog, like

1:01:36.040 --> 1:01:37.960
<v Speaker 2>a dog as a good home. I can see you

1:01:38.040 --> 1:01:40.360
<v Speaker 2>see the mountain Alibi like, all up and down the coast.

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<v Speaker 2>These kinds of dogs you know.

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<v Speaker 4>That have yeah speech, the dog in real life, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sure it was very well trained. So on that note,

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<v Speaker 4>I think we had an extra long chat session today

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<v Speaker 4>and this was super fun. Always fun. We look forward

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<v Speaker 4>to answering more fan questions next time, I still so excited.

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