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Speaker 1: Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney thorn Smith.

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Speaker 2: And Daphne's Aniga an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: So before you came in, Daphny, I was telling Laura.

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Speaker 3: So my friend Shalen who called me to say, have

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Speaker 3: you ever thought of doing a rewatch podcast? Which led

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Speaker 3: me to call you guys, which led to us being here,

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Speaker 3: is visiting me right now with his wife and four kids.

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Speaker 3: And I was telling Laura that his wife used to

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Speaker 3: be my son's nanny. And at the time, she was

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Speaker 3: my son's nanny from two and a half to four

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Speaker 3: and a half and we adored her.

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Speaker 1: My son adored her. We loved her so much.

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Speaker 3: She met this nice boy at church and he proposed

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Speaker 3: that was great, but then he got a job out

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Speaker 3: of town.

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Speaker 1: Then he was dead to me, and I was so mad.

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Speaker 3: I was so much and my son was heartbroke and

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Speaker 3: I was so devastated.

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Speaker 1: And I'm having this moment.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot like actually what we talked about with

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Speaker 3: Vanessa Cheers on the podcast about how difficult times can

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Speaker 3: turn around so beautifully. And I feel like God took

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Speaker 3: her away and it was so awful, but then brought

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Speaker 3: it back a thousand fold because now I've got her

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Speaker 3: and Shalen and her sister and their four kids in

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Speaker 3: my house, and it's literally like they took her away

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Speaker 3: and then multiplied the love and then brought her back, and.

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Speaker 1: It's been so sweet and moving, right.

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Speaker 3: I think I wish I'd known we were going to

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Speaker 3: do a different episode. I wish I could have brought

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Speaker 3: him in to meet you guys today because it would

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Speaker 3: have been so much fun because he's a big Melros

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Speaker 3: Place fan.

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Speaker 1: I would like to have money, so.

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Speaker 4: Well, you're still dreaming about you.

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Speaker 1: He's you know what it was.

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Speaker 3: I was mad at them for a minute because I

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Speaker 3: missed Bethany, but very quickly, like I just absolutely fall

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Speaker 3: in love with them. And now they come and stay,

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Speaker 3: and every time their stay gets longer and longer and

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Speaker 3: longer and keeps threat and he keeps going, yeah, i'd

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Speaker 3: be careful, we'll move in. I'm like, you think that's

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Speaker 3: a threat, but I would love it, so.

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Speaker 4: I have to want to move in, please do There's

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Speaker 4: plenty of episodes that we have to do, so we

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Speaker 4: should be here for a while. There's a plenty of opportunity.

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Speaker 4: He could end up in here at some point.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, different people, and I think he should definitely

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Speaker 5: You can, like, you know, ask him about the dream

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Speaker 5: and if we're.

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Speaker 4: Meeting the dream, that he has his version. But we

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Speaker 4: do appreciate people.

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Speaker 2: And also the fact that we responded to it, and

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Speaker 2: you know that Laura and I had already been thinking

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Speaker 2: about it but had been let that go for a

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Speaker 2: while because of other sort of logistical things and then

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Speaker 2: when you just out of the blue called with this inspiration. See,

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Speaker 2: I think that's exciting when we when things happened for better.

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Speaker 5: Or for worse, it's how we react to it. And

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Speaker 5: it's helped me make out of it.

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Speaker 2: And Courtney, you know that did happen where he was

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Speaker 2: taken away, Your nanny was taken away and you were

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Speaker 2: just and I know things have happened to you and

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Speaker 2: things have happened to me, and things seem to be

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Speaker 2: like and you know, kudos to you, just like kudos

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Speaker 2: to Vanessa and to all of us. How we see

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Speaker 2: the positive when it finally in whatever time it takes,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well it's a great lesson, right And I can

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Speaker 3: look at my life, how many times that this is

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Speaker 3: objectively bad and it turns out for my good countless time.

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Speaker 3: I think I would just sort of relax into it

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Speaker 3: for my good, but fear comes in. But that's the

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Speaker 3: spiritual work, right The spiritual work is to try to

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Speaker 3: get to the place where you go, I'm not going

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Speaker 3: trust that it will turn out for the best. That's

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Speaker 3: the work and that's the challenge. But this was such

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Speaker 3: a huge example of that in your life because I

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Speaker 3: love them so much, and it would have been so different.

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Speaker 3: Had she stayed, probably she would have Jack would have

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Speaker 3: gotten older, she would have left them like that was lovely,

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Speaker 3: thank you. But instead it's this beautiful relationship. My house

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Speaker 3: is still little kids.

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Speaker 1: The sweetest thing.

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Speaker 5: That's great.

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Speaker 4: That's great, that's awesome.

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Speaker 3: My giant just really quickly. So my son now is

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Speaker 4: YEA, so sweet, No, we both keeping.

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Speaker 3: Are you seeing this are It's so sweet how these

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Speaker 1: We never would have known. It's the sweetest thing. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: On the show, all right, So speaking of trust, you

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Speaker 2: guys are gonna trust me today because I said I

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Speaker 2: wanted to do the rundown. It's usually for a job

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Speaker 2: and you know, but I really wanted to try it,

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Speaker 2: try it, mix things up, and so I watched it

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Speaker 2: twice this morning.

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Speaker 1: Look at you doing your homework.

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Speaker 4: I can press.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm just digging this show now because all of

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Speaker 2: these years later, I get to relax and see things

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Speaker 2: just as an audience, like we've talked about. And one

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Speaker 2: thing I noticed about this episode, which is called I

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Speaker 2: Promise Broken, is that, you know how we talked about before,

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Speaker 2: Like usually there's a storyline like A stories maybe more

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Speaker 5: Doing that balance.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about you, guys, but I felt in

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Speaker 2: this one there was no light story. I felt like

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Speaker 2: that was they were all adulting in this episode, like

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Speaker 5: Yep, you know they were dealing with really make.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know there's the banter with Alison and

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Speaker 2: Billy constantly, but there was serious issues.

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Speaker 4: Oh thank god.

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Speaker 1: I was like, because I'm.

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Speaker 3: Thinking of the storyline, I'm thinking, well, I did think

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Speaker 2: Do well, let me say everyone was adult thing. And

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Speaker 3: I just kept thinking how adorable he was. We did,

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Speaker 3: we went back. We haven't had a shirtless scene for

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Speaker 1: And I was like, oh that, thank you for that.

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Speaker 2: He will never not be Billy. And then our guest stars.

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Speaker 2: So this was written by Darren Starr and Chuck Pratt.

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Speaker 4: Charles Pratt.

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Speaker 2: Charles I realized, I remembered wrote my first movie ever,

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Speaker 2: Nancy Malone and our favorite child.

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Speaker 3: It's funny because before so we have little cameras on

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Speaker 2: Here is Marcia Cross. So Marcia Cross, here we are

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Speaker 2: in episode eleven and she made an appearance. I thought

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Speaker 2: Jane and Michael are. We're in the apartment at night.

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Speaker 2: It's the whole group. Remember those group scenes we were

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Speaker 2: There's a crib setup. We saw that happening before. Everyone

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Speaker 3: For you younger viewers, that's because film used to be

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Speaker 1: It's on YouTube or your next video. No, that's not

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Speaker 5: And they don't know the sex of the baby.

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Speaker 2: So we're at Alison and Billy's apartment and we walk

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Speaker 4: But this is, by the way, when Alison is carrying

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Speaker 3: I wasn't a fan of the dress.

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Speaker 4: That I love. Courtney notices we're like often on like

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Speaker 4: So I'm like, it's all right.

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Speaker 3: I wish you young Courtney, Alison, I know, and Courtney

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Speaker 1: I promise you.

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Speaker 4: But let's get real, guys.

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Speaker 2: They're not real people, their characters and Alison had no

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Speaker 4: Ever, you just have to have a choker or some

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Speaker 4: Sorry. So you know what I did think about this episode.

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Speaker 2: I thought, all the wardrobe you didn't like yours because

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Speaker 2: I thought it alloked so great, true to nineties, like

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Speaker 3: And well, look, it may be self consciousness because I

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Speaker 4: I think there might be a little bit of that.

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Speaker 3: For all my spiritual talk, apparently the ego is still

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Speaker 4: But here's in this scene also, like besides her commenting

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Speaker 2: I always get an argument when how many times, I mean,

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Speaker 5: Really, I gotta.

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Speaker 4: Say, but the argument was not so like flum mixing.

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Speaker 4: It was more like that it turned into a bet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I was waiting for them to kiss because it

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Speaker 3: I think, Wow, Alison's subtle way to play it cool.

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Speaker 4: There were a lot of those in this, so I

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Speaker 4: I mean that was totally You're going to have to

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Speaker 2: Well, if he can't clean up, he says, I'm going

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Speaker 3: Which what an intimate thing to do, right, like something

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Speaker 3: laundryad Washington thing to do.

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Speaker 2: The next morning, quickly we hear the shower running. You're

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Speaker 1: Because apparently we share a laundry basket.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, don't I don't know about you guys,

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Speaker 2: but guys always need cookies and affirmation when they do,

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Speaker 4: I'm doing the laundry.

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Speaker 2: Here, look it, I'm putting the dish in the dish washing.

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Speaker 6: That's what. That's what definitely takes Wait a minute, So

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Speaker 6: he's trying, he's trying really hard to prove that he

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Speaker 4: He's like, so let me also do yours.

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Speaker 2: It's just let me clearly here you're taking a shower

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Speaker 2: No cookies until they're actually washed and then dried.

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Speaker 3: And then you know, in the writer's room, somebody made

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Speaker 4: And it does say.

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Speaker 2: Here, I just circled and parentheses on the shower as

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Speaker 2: a pink shower curtain with cats, and I circled that

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Speaker 2: because that theme matches those teddy bears and toys I

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Speaker 4: Animals on your thing.

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Speaker 2: And yet what we're going to see next in the

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Speaker 4: His jorts is like raw ham rough.

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Speaker 1: I'm wearing the same one.

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Speaker 3: I thank god I'm not wearing him the same scene.

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Speaker 4: I think you borrowed his because you were still in

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Speaker 2: You're like, you're sharing a laundry room with an apartment.

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Speaker 2: Things get mixed up all the time, and you're just

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Speaker 2: the same length, like halfway down. Okay, But there we

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Speaker 4: Jorts and T shirts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know it was so hard to me,

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Speaker 5: Don't you love middle adies?

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Speaker 1: Hormones knockers.

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Speaker 3: No, I had a reduction, but yes, but I always

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Speaker 3: and I was so surprised that I let them say

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Speaker 4: Well, I wonder if that was I wonder if it

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not sure they looked right.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure it was without permission. It was just didn't.

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Speaker 3: that feels so intimate to know that, right.

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Speaker 4: And then the boys just turn it into they're just

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Speaker 2: It's really led by Billy, the most mature guy in

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Speaker 2: but yeah, getting to that point, I think what usually

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Speaker 5: Just use that in the scene.

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Speaker 2: That's what happened, you know, they usually do that so

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Speaker 3: I think it felt intimate because I was so self

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Speaker 1: I was like, well, that's a pretty intense thing to share.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this whole scene, your whole storyline was about that,

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Speaker 3: I actually, I will get to the end. But I

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Speaker 1: And at the end, I was like, Oh.

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Speaker 3: That's why, because I kept thinking about me, calm down yourself.

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Speaker 3: I sort of I think, like, again, I keep correcting myself,

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Speaker 4: In Allison's defense, I'm gonna say she walks in and

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Speaker 4: You're clearly like maybe like realizing that he's taking your laundry.

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Speaker 4: And then he's being an eleven year old and acting

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Speaker 4: So of course you're mad. I'm sorry, Like I'm I'm

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Speaker 4: going to defend Allison here. Yeah, Alison should be pissed that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah maybe because she's so young. I mean today I

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Speaker 4: I think you're trying about it.

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Speaker 1: Keep going.

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Speaker 2: It's not just that instea. Then he's staring at them.

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Speaker 2: Then there's the magazine. You know, we'll get to that,

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Speaker 2: and it's like it's a whole thing just out every scene.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just the breach of like that's my personal stuff

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Speaker 4: and you're like being such a dork, you know, like

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Speaker 4: making fun and whatever and you caught him doing it.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to defend Alison here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: You're welcome.

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Speaker 1: Anything to say about that dress in the first scene,

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Speaker 1: I have to.

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Speaker 2: Go back and look at it. Yeah, so I'm probably

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Speaker 2: going to defend it. I love that Allison lazy. If

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Speaker 2: I saw anyone was cut her.

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Speaker 4: Some slot alf.

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Speaker 2: And now our next scene is in the hospital hallway

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Speaker 2: and we have Michael and Kimberly are walking down and

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Speaker 2: this is where you're saying, like, there's this confidence, there's

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Speaker 2: this pacing. She's very kind of like, you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: That's what I And I was blown away by her confidence,

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Speaker 3: like as an actor, like she just came.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, no, wonder they had her back. She must

447
00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:06,720
Speaker 1: belong here.

448
00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,160
Speaker 4: Because yeah, and it was real. It was the introduction

449
00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,080
Speaker 4: to the character. But it was like she was assuming

450
00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,200
Speaker 4: the familiarity that that character would already have, Like she

451
00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,119
Speaker 4: she just she fit in at the hospital. She's an

452
00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,680
Speaker 4: intern who's already been working with them, and she demonstrated

453
00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,040
Speaker 4: that relationship with her level of comfortability and confidence. Yes

454
00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,480
Speaker 4: that all of a sudden we're like, oh, this is

455
00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:33,119
Speaker 4: a strong, beautiful co worker with Michael and they already

456
00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,159
Speaker 4: had this relationship. Like she established that immediately with you.

457
00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,840
Speaker 4: I really did establish I think it comes from her.

458
00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,719
Speaker 2: Marshall is a theater background, and that's like you know

459
00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,280
Speaker 2: all that backstory and stuff. It wasn't there was no

460
00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 2: tendency like you might have as a guest star.

461
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, she really came in.

462
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,800
Speaker 3: And also Thomas said, they talked about it, so they

463
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,159
Speaker 3: made that decision. I think they both really like to

464
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,160
Speaker 3: talk about scenes and how they work, so maybe they

465
00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,120
Speaker 3: found that comfortability. But I thought it was a really

466
00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:58,399
Speaker 3: impressive entrance.

467
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, so coming in hot, here comes.

468
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,119
Speaker 2: Comingly hot, and they're you know, and they're have this

469
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,399
Speaker 2: banter and this playfulness, and she's already teasing him a

470
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 2: lot and saying that, you know, he can't talk about

471
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 2: his feelings and all that, and tiding him already. It

472
00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,840
Speaker 2: really annoyed me, like how she was. And then of

473
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 2: course my annoyance is warranted by the end where we

474
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 2: get to that part too. But it's like, but anyway,

475
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,160
Speaker 2: I agree with she made herself right a home, that's

476
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:27,240
Speaker 2: for sure, and with Michael. So they're walking down the

477
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,119
Speaker 2: hallway and then Michael asked to go see the ultrasound.

478
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,520
Speaker 2: Jane has this ultrasound and doctor Levin who says, no,

479
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,120
Speaker 2: you can't. You got to do we have this other

480
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:38,119
Speaker 2: thing that we have to do.

481
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,240
Speaker 1: And sure you can't got an operation.

482
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 4: So it was a conflict.

483
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,640
Speaker 2: At the same time, Jane and Matt are coming down

484
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 2: the hallway the next scene because they're going to the ultrasound.

485
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:49,360
Speaker 5: Of course Matt's there.

486
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 2: He's like the best friend and very reliable, where Michael isn't.

487
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:55,440
Speaker 5: But he's coming down.

488
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 2: Takes her there, and I think they're expecting Michael to

489
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 2: still be in the Alto Sound with his wife.

490
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,360
Speaker 4: Until that was just giving her a ride, yeah, which

491
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 4: he'd offered in that film scene. I said, if you

492
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 4: need to ride tomorrow. Yeah, So they guess they only

493
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 4: have one car.

494
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,200
Speaker 5: That's when Michael surprises him.

495
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,640
Speaker 2: You know, I can't go, So but don't go anywhere, Matt,

496
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 2: because you can go and be in there, and you

497
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 2: brought the video so we can see the recording and

498
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 2: we'll watch it together. I'm really sorry. And you just

499
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 2: see Jane's face and she's so disappointed again. And of

500
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 2: course now that we've had them on, you know, as guests,

501
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 2: she played that part a lot like oh, understanding and

502
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,159
Speaker 2: kind of put up with stuff and just things, you know,

503
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 2: I remember her saying that.

504
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 5: And kind of just I don't know if she said that.

505
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 2: She wasn't crazy about it, but that's how they wrote her,

506
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 2: and she just had to play it.

507
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,159
Speaker 5: You know, disappointed by accepting him to do it. He

508
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 5: was good.

509
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 3: She's probably honestly what every wife of an intern feels, right,

510
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:52,919
Speaker 3: because what are you going to do?

511
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,439
Speaker 1: You can't do it's not like you can change it.

512
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 1: You have to go through this.

513
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 2: Right, right. So we're still in the hospital and this

514
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 2: is the ultra sound happening, and Matt is in there.

515
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 2: She's coming in and they're getting ready and they mistake him,

516
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 2: of course for the dad, but he's not. But then

517
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 2: the doctor comes in, so this ultrasound is set up,

518
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 2: the nurses in there, the doctor starts doing the ultrasound

519
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 2: and they're all happy, and then something happens in the scene,

520
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 2: which is they're doing the ultrasound and she's like yeah, yeah,

521
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 2: and then it's like there's a quiet in the room.

522
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 2: And then he says, freeze it there, and you know,

523
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 2: he says to Matt, can we just have a second?

524
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 5: Can you step out? So Matt steps.

525
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 2: Out and give he gives the harble news that there's

526
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 2: no heartbeat. So that's like just devastating.

527
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 3: They handle it beautifully in the script, and again I'm

528
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 3: really I'm impressed with how they handle these things. Somebody

529
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 3: in the room had been through it, all the expectations,

530
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 3: everything was set up, they're all excited, and then there's

531
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 3: that moment where there's no heartbeat and it's just you know,

532
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 3: because it used to be and I think we're much

533
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 3: better about this now. It used to be this idea

534
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 3: of oh well, it was only so many weeks, but

535
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 3: it's not. It's the planning, it's the expectation, it's the

536
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 3: story you've told yourself.

537
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: You have this idea of what's going to happen, and

538
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: then it's gone, Yeah, so devastating. She played it beautifully.

539
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought there was some interesting and we haven't

540
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,719
Speaker 4: gotten to them yet. Some interesting moments too, where as

541
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 4: much as you know, Josie was twenty one years old

542
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 4: at the time and having to play this moment of

543
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 4: loss that right that it was just a lot too

544
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 4: shoulder that story. And then there was a part of

545
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,360
Speaker 4: the character that throughout the episode she's apologizing and trying

546
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,679
Speaker 4: to make things better for other people. I thought was

547
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,719
Speaker 4: sort of an interesting color because, yeah, it comes like

548
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 4: that she's as devastated as she is, she's also having

549
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 4: to care about how other people are going to receive

550
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 4: this news and whatever, and I just thought that was

551
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 4: an interesting color.

552
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 3: I complain about social media, but I think that's the

553
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 3: thing where we've gotten better, where women are really talking

554
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 3: about this is a devastating loss. Like, don't say it's

555
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 3: only anything right, right, this is a devastating loss. And

556
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 3: I think that women now can claim it more and

557
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 3: mourn it and really allow themselves to be sad and yeah,

558
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 3: get back on the horse. It's like, well, you're mourning

559
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 3: something real.

560
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 2: And usually the show, being thirty years ago, is things

561
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 2: that are archaic and old fashioned, and look where we

562
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 2: are today.

563
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 5: So that's what I mean.

564
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 4: They're all adulting. These are big issues of these writers were.

565
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 2: Like, you know what, enough of figuring out if I

566
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 2: should get rid of my car that's your.

567
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 4: Bird or whatever.

568
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 5: Anyway, so we're going to move on.

569
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: We are now back with Alison and Billy in the

570
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 2: apartment and they have an argument about the.

571
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 5: Bra and he's like, this has got to be a joke.

572
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 2: You're taking this too seriously, and she just says, you're

573
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,959
Speaker 2: like a pervert, and he's, well, you're a prude.

574
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 4: I was just playing with the bra. I was just

575
00:24:58,760 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 4: a joke.

576
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 5: And then she said maybe this is a good reminder,

577
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 5: like why.

578
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 2: We're just we're just roommates, you know, we're just because

579
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 2: basically you're a kid and you're annoying, and also.

580
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: I'm trying to trick you into dinner.

581
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 4: All yeah, I don't want to go to dinner. But

582
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 4: Alison's now put a lock on her door. The key

583
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 4: news here is that she decided to lock the door

584
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 4: a big dead bold in fact, not just like a

585
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 4: little a big dead bowl.

586
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 2: Yep. So Alison really thought what you thought that was

587
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 2: a violation and now there's a lock.

588
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 4: Yep.

589
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 3: No, I didn't think that. Laura's on Alison's side. I'm

590
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 3: completely anti. You're pro Allison. I'm completely anti Alison. My

591
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 3: personality is just going to split apart apart today.

592
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 4: It remains a fact that she put a lock on

593
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,239
Speaker 4: the door and said stay out.

594
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: Which apparently you think is a great idea. I think

595
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: it's an over it.

596
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 4: I'm just saying it's a fact.

597
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 2: So we're back in the hospital and this is during

598
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: the day and Matt and Michael are sitting there waiting

599
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 2: for Jane, and the doctor comes out to say that

600
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 2: the procedure is done and tells him that, you know,

601
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: a miscarriage is nature's way of taking care of something

602
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: that's not right.

603
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: No, it didn't it look to you?

604
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 3: I was watching this thinking I felt like Thomas was

605
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 3: playing it like he hadn't heard this news. I felt

606
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 3: like he was playing this was the first time he'd

607
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 3: heard it. Did you feel that?

608
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 4: I think I was wondering.

609
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 5: I can see why.

610
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he was like having his stunned sort

611
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 4: of reaction in this scene, like he was staring off

612
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 4: into spae whatever. Isn't this the one where he was

613
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 4: Wasn't he just kind of looking.

614
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 3: At the doctor's telling him But someone would have said,

615
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: your wife is going into surgery because there was no

616
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 3: hard someone would have told him.

617
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 5: Because they're waiting. Yeah, I think he was playing more stunned.

618
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: But I'd see why you'd say that, because it kind

619
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: of was a little could have been.

620
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 4: They were clearly waiting for her to come out of

621
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 4: the procedure, but he was acting sort of like just

622
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 4: stunned and numb about it. Yeah, And I think that

623
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 4: rolls into him not feeling his feelings or not saying

624
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 4: his feelings.

625
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 2: Right, yes, right, And she's wheeled by and she says,

626
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 2: I I'm sorry heartbreaking.

627
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 4: So heart breaking, which really he's like, why isn't he

628
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 4: saying I'm so sorry.

629
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: Like, I'm sure that was hard for him to you

630
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 3: would want to say, O sweetheart, of course.

631
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: There's nothing like you wanted to say something.

632
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 3: But I think this is him, like you said, not

633
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 3: being to he's not connected to his feelings, because yeah, he.

634
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 5: Did kind of just go I don't say that.

635
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all he could do, you know what I mean, because.

636
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: There were no written lines and as we know, you

637
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 1: can't say so he.

638
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 4: Just so.

639
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 2: Then we're in the courtyard and they're coming home. The

640
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 2: group is all gathered again.

641
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 4: I like our group.

642
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 5: They're there for support.

643
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 2: When Jane and Michael come home, they they're walking.

644
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 1: Really important support. Blah blah blah. But can we talk

645
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: about Alison's outfit for a second.

646
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 4: Now, let's.

647
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: Sport I don't remember, so I have on.

648
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 3: Jake Schortz for some reason, shorts all right, and another

649
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 3: horizontal stripe talk. Why would anyone ever wear horizontal striped anything?

650
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: And it seems to be my theme.

651
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 3: Remember the carnival jacket, And then I've got the horizontal

652
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 3: striped and I've got the I.

653
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 4: Actually like the carnival jacket.

654
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: It might look good on you, it's not a good

655
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: look on me.

656
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: Oh, my word, but you, I thought, God, she must

657
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: be I didn't notice any and you were always taking

658
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 2: care of yourself because not a lot of people can

659
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 2: get away with including me.

660
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 4: It didn't thought I didn't notice it. So I'm defending

661
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 4: Alison and the same thing. I guess I'm defending because

662
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 4: like fictional care yourself a break, Laura's gonna be like,

663
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 4: you know, I prefer Alison to Courtney. I didn't be kind.

664
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 4: I'm sure. I'm sure Alison looked adorable.

665
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: Okay, Courney, I have a question, though, why do I

666
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: hate myself?

667
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 5: Do you remember?

668
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: No? Do you remember saying were we offered choices?

669
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 5: Because I know some costumers always give you choices.

670
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: I remember Denise, give where whichever you're more comfortable, Like

671
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 2: maybe there was another T shirt? Or or if there wasn't,

672
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: could you have said I don't want to wear this.

673
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 3: I well, we were frustrated. That's why they replaced the costumer. Right,

674
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 3: So I was not the only one who was frustrated.

675
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 3: I look around other people like they did a better

676
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 3: jump speaking up for themselves. Like Vanessa said she brought

677
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 3: stuff from home. I was like, you can do that.

678
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: I think I.

679
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 3: Felt I didn't feel comfortable in what I was given

680
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 3: to wear for the most part, and I sort of went, okay,

681
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 3: I'll take that. But it was the lesser of two evils.

682
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: It wasn't. I wasn't like I can't wait to wear

683
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: this right, you know, No.

684
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 5: I could see that for sure.

685
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: I always wanted to wear something like cool or even

686
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 2: if you're just hanging around. That was like the customer

687
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: that has to tell a story is like, you're just

688
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 2: hanging around so here. This is in my mind, a

689
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: striped T shirt and jeans cut off jeans halfway down

690
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: the thigh are the hanging around outfit. But I always

691
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: wanted to be like, why can't you be Joe you

692
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: later hanging around something cooler and prettier, like I.

693
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 4: Don't care about the story he always does.

694
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: Why can't I hang on in an evening gown like

695
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: I always sweat?

696
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 5: For David? Are you always in sweats at home?

697
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 4: I always? I call it loungewear I do like I

698
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 4: do like lounge wear.

699
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 5: I love lounge sweats.

700
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: I know that's what I means, sweats loungewear.

701
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: Then I put it on a dress to go out.

702
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 3: Then immediately when I get home I put on you

703
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 3: know that. I obviously the pandemic was awful for everything

704
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 3: in every way except companies really up their loungewear did right, And.

705
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 2: I'm still wearing I'm still looking for their loungewear lounge weear.

706
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: Yes.

707
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: Here we are with Jane and Michael in the apartment,

708
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: and the group kind of follows in and everyone comes.

709
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 4: Jane invites everybody in, come on in.

710
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: It's kind of out of her body at this time,

711
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: come on out.

712
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: Every Maybe she intuitively doesn't trust him like I want,

713
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: you know, like when you don't want to be our

714
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: own one person, you just bring everyone. Well.

715
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 3: I think it connects to what we were talking about

716
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 3: it she's taking care of everybody else instead I need to.

717
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 4: Go face instead of saying that come on in. Everybody

718
00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 4: went in.

719
00:30:58,760 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: Let me make you something to eat, let me make

720
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: you all comfortable.

721
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: But also she needs that comfort. She needed it too,

722
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: I think, I mean, I mean, jeez, we're loving the group.

723
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: They must have loved each other in the show the

724
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: character yeah maybe you know so. Rhonda is telling Jane

725
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: that she knows it's happened to lots of people, including

726
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: her mom, and then Alison agrees, and she says again,

727
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 2: someone else says, this is the way the body's way

728
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: of taking care of something that isn't right, and then

729
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: Jane says, why is everyone always saying that because the

730
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 2: doctor said something like that too. But and then we

731
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: have Jake follows Michael into the kitchen and says, you

732
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: need to talk another thing of trying to get him

733
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: to express himself, and he's like, no, I just need

734
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: to take care of Jane.

735
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: I liked that it was Jake too. Yeah, right, I

736
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: thought that was an interesting choice.

737
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,479
Speaker 4: And it's also like all the things that the girls

738
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 4: are trying to say to comfort Jane, those are all true.

739
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 4: It's just there's nothing right to say. There is nothing

740
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 4: that can ever feel like the right thing to say,

741
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 4: both for the person who's you know, searching for something

742
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 4: to say, and then for the person who's mourning. There's

743
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 4: just not a perfect thing to say, and it just

744
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 4: isn't going to feel right no matter what. And I

745
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 4: just I felt like that was happening in that scene.

746
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 4: You know, she's like, why does everybody say that? And

747
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 4: it's like, well, it's not not true, but it's also

748
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 4: like not comforting, you know, like there's just not a

749
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 4: right thing to say. And so I thought that was

750
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 4: depicted very well.

751
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 2: Maybe it's kind of like if when somebody's parent dies,

752
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 2: you know, and people say, well, that's life.

753
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 5: You know, she lived alone.

754
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: It's like that's just life, Like that's just.

755
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 5: Science, and like that's.

756
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: Just and it's kind of like that may be true,

757
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: but it's not very comfortings.

758
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 3: Just the only thing in that situation really helped, just

759
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 3: saying I'm so sorry, yeah, and just that I'm here.

760
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 3: Letting that be it, right, I'm sorry, and the thing

761
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 3: but you know, as we get older, most of us

762
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 3: have lost a parent, and it's very different when you're

763
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: not younger trying when you go, i'm so sorry, I

764
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 3: know what that is. I'm here if you need me, right,

765
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 3: that's all we really can offer. And just to say,

766
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 3: same with if you've been through a miscarriage, you just say, oh, sweetie,

767
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, I know that pain.

768
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 4: I'm here. Yeah.

769
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 3: That I think is helpful, but to discount it. We're

770
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 3: trying to make it okay, but like you said, you can't.

771
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 3: Only time comes close to making it okay. Yeah, makes

772
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 3: it more okay.

773
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

774
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: And I think also just to finish on that one thought.

775
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: It's enough that people around you, like you just don't

776
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 2: want to be there alone. It's enough that people are

777
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: just there, like they don't have to be perfect when

778
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: there's a grief or something horrible happens to someone. The

779
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: rest of us don't have to be perfect and how

780
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: to know how to do it, but we're there, And

781
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: I think, like that is the power of that apartment building. Oh,

782
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: that's so sweet to this point, up to you know, a.

783
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 5: Few episodes, we're gonna that's all gonna change. We're gonna

784
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 5: wish they.

785
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 4: All lived alone. Somebody's gonna try to blow the place up.

786
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 2: But all right, So then when everyone leaves, it is

787
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: Jane in bed, and Jane and Michael are alone in

788
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,239
Speaker 2: their apartment building, and he's in the bathroom staring at

789
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: himself and the water's running. Jane's in bed and calls

790
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: for him to come in, and she comes in and share.

791
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 3: Deesn't he say to Jake and that other scene, it's

792
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: not about me, right, like gaving time for my feelings

793
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 3: sort of, Yeah, I got to take.

794
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: Care of her, got to take care of exactly.

795
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 2: So he kind of is, I think in Survival mode,

796
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, he comes in, he's

797
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 2: we see him for a brief moment in the bathroom

798
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 2: shower what's really going on, which is things are not okay,

799
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 2: he is not okay. But then he goes into take

800
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 2: care mode and he comes in and he scoops her

801
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 2: up and takes her into his arms, lying down the bed,

802
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: and she lays down on his chest and says how

803
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: she feels, and he's kind of just there doing his role.

804
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 4: So you the writing's really good.

805
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 2: You know, there's real depth to this motim He used

806
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: to know that, you know, which is really cool because

807
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: it's just on the surface he's doing that, and it's important.

808
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 2: It's not the whole of what's going on with him,

809
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: which we will find out. And again, this is a

810
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 2: very vulnerable, mature adulting thing that they're doing. I've never

811
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 2: seen these two. This is profound what they're dealing with

812
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 2: in that moment. It's just another vulnerable moment that I

813
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: was like, Wow, these people are being forced to grow up,

814
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: which I think is what the twenties are about, which

815
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: is what Darren wanted the show to be about, not

816
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: just what's my next job? But you do have to

817
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: go from when you're in college, you have other problems.

818
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 2: When you're in your thirties, you have other problems. First

819
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: happened in the twenties and stuff. You know. Billy comes

820
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: in shirtless. Alison's looking out the window. She's also having

821
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 2: a thoughtful moment of what's going on. And this is

822
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: very like a soft moment we start out. Remember I

823
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 2: was saying about like scenes, they start out one energy

824
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: and then it ends in another. This is kind of soft.

825
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 2: She's melancholi. She's being thoughtful, and she confesses that she

826
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 2: was thinking about Jane and that it's a death loss.

827
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: And Billy says that it makes their fight seem like

828
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: no big deal and that they both overreacted, and Allison said, no,

829
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 2: I didn't overreact. You you overreacted. And you're also staring

830
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: at my chest.

831
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 5: So he's like, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not.

832
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: I don't do that, and Allison says, you know, I

833
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: don't think this roommate experiment is working. And then he

834
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 2: says a lot of people live plutonically, men and women

835
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: all over the world, and she's like, yeah, but they're mature.

836
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: She's basically still clocking him on his immaturity. Yeah, yes

837
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 2: at the end and just saying is which is not

838
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 2: a bad choice.

839
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 3: As the show goes on, we find out why I

840
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 3: was like, man, Allison, chill pill, Yeah.

841
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 4: What do you say about Alison? I think she was

842
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 4: she had a little sensitivity and she's like, wait, you're

843
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 4: you're looking at my chest, you know, And and in

844
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 4: a way that maybe came more from her security than

845
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 4: I'm talking about Allison's insecurity, then from Billy actually, and

846
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 4: then it just caused this thing like now he can't

847
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 4: not look at her chest and she's like what you know?

848
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 4: So it did come from a place of insecurity.

849
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 2: But we are at the point in the episode where

850
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: these people are just starting to feel what they're really feeling.

851
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 2: So you haven't said what it's all about yet, Michael

852
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: hasn't said what it's all about yet. His vulnerability your

853
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 2: cause of your testiness. You're just being in the feelings

854
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: right now.

855
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 3: So but also I think it's the intensity to you

856
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 3: because in the beginning, obviously Allison's opening up some flirtation,

857
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 3: like we're buying each other dinner.

858
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: She's setting this up.

859
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 3: So then when he disappoints her, he disappoints her double

860
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 3: because she's starting to think of him as a romantic partner,

861
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 3: whether she's willing to admit it to herself or not.

862
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 3: So when this falls apart, she's really mad, like maybe

863
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 3: it's not working. It's the disappointment of maybe you're not

864
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 3: my guy. Yeah, so I think that was happening too.

865
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, I agree.

866
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 4: But meanwhile, in real life.

867
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 3: We were like, rabbits, you're really annoying me.

868
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 4: Acting there to get to lay hands off.

869
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 5: Very funny.

870
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: And then while that's happening across the courtyard and Jane

871
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: and Michael's apartment, Uh, it's in the morning and she's

872
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: having a horrible nightmare that they have this new baby,

873
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: and it's kind of shown as a dream and that

874
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 2: kind of handheld camera thing. Yeah, they're holding this baby,

875
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: and then of course she takes the blanket off the

876
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 2: baby and there's nothing there.

877
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: That was devastating.

878
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 3: That was a scene where you really see the planning,

879
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 3: Like you have fantasies when you when you want to

880
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 3: have a baby and you find out you're pregnant, you're

881
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 3: already planning and fantasizing.

882
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: You have all these ideas. So when you know if

883
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 1: you lose the baby.

884
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 5: You lose all of that everything.

885
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 2: And the very next scene is when Michael is putting

886
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: away the crib and the stuffed animals downstairs and the

887
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 2: storage room, like the lock he puts on the fence,

888
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: and it's just like all of that in his mind

889
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: and his heart is looking forward to being a dad.

890
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 2: It's just folded in the underneath the stairs, really abrupt

891
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: and comes back up into the apartment and she's like,

892
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 2: where'd you put it? He says, down in the storage room.

893
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: She says, I made some toast and there's coffee, and

894
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 2: he's like, oh, yeah, I can't really stay.

895
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 5: I have to get to the hospital.

896
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: Once again. She's like, no, I'll be fine. He goes,

897
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: I'll stay if you want. You know, I'm gonna be

898
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: the good dad, the good husband. She's like, no, I'm fine.

899
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 2: He called his mom. Are you going to call your mom?

900
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: She says, I will tonight and tell her, and then

901
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: he leaves. And then we're at the hospital and our

902
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: favorite little new guest star Kimberly and Michael. She says

903
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 2: she's sorry about the baby, but she's also being kind

904
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: of jokey, which I thought was inappropriate, calling him doctor

905
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: Rushmore because you're not feeling your feelings.

906
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 5: And then he's like, I'm what do you mean.

907
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: You don't know what you're talking about, and he's but

908
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 2: she's rushing, he's rushing through things. So she calls him

909
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: doctor Rushmore, you know you're in denial, and he goes,

910
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 2: I'm not in and you're supposed to be a surgeon.

911
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 2: You're an in turn to be a surgeon, not a headshrink.

912
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 5: So basically, leave me alone.

913
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 4: A little foreshadowing there.

914
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, she apologizes for being too joky as he leaves.

915
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: So Billy and Allison are in their apartment again and

916
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 2: Alison is getting out of the shower but she's in

917
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: the shower and he yells through the door, I'm going

918
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: to shoot hers. She says nothing, and he goes, look,

919
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: I just want to tell you I'm sorry.

920
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 5: For being joking.

921
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 2: I was a class clown in high school and college,

922
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: and it's just easier laughing getting a laughing than being yourself.

923
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 3: I thought he was so sweet in the scene. Yeah,

924
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 3: I was like, Alison, go to shooters and he's adorable.

925
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 3: He was so vulnerable and sweet. I really thought he

926
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 3: did a great job.

927
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 2: With So you were having a moment Alison looking at

928
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: herself after the shower in the mirror, which was now

929
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 2: we're going to she's really starting to face what's really

930
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: going on underneath, Yeah, underneath the testiness, which means also

931
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: the sensitivity, but she expresses it in testiness, right, So

932
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 2: she's having that totally exposed moment and really realizing what

933
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: she went through. And Jane and Michael apartment night, so

934
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 2: she's on the phone telling her mom what happened, and

935
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: he's eavesdropping. There's knock in the front door, opens it.

936
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: There's a rope which ends up being a leash. They

937
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 2: follow it and there's Sandy and Jake with a little

938
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: puppy and Jingg with that huge, like fifty pound bag

939
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: of dog food and they're all fitted.

940
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 3: And weren't you just like, no, never get someone an

941
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 3: animal as a gift unless you've really discussed it.

942
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: But Jenny's get someone.

943
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 4: I know, I'm very happy. She was like yay puppy,

944
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 4: and she seemed to be very happy.

945
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: Why weren't you just cringing?

946
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 4: Like completely reasonable for Michael to go, uh, we you know, no,

947
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 4: no dogs allowed. And wait a minute.

948
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 3: But just as we go into the holiday season, just

949
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 3: a reminder because the shelters are so full after the

950
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 3: holidays unless you've all agreed no animals as gifts, they're

951
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 3: not toys.

952
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 4: Good point. So after the holidays, people they returned on

953
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 4: you made.

954
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,959
Speaker 3: Yes, people get animals as gifts as will be fun,

955
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 3: and then they're not prepared whatever they take them the shelters.

956
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 2: It's very sad before I get a dog, and I

957
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 2: haven't gotten one five years now because I'm still thinking

958
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: about it, because I kind of like the freedom. Dogs

959
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 2: are a lot, as we find out, coming a lot

960
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,959
Speaker 2: of yummy, but at any rate, there they are those

961
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 2: friends and everyone's just trying to make people feel better

962
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 2: instead of dealing with what is really going on. Next

963
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: scene is I'm waking up and there's a mess everywhere

964
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 2: and the dog's torn and made a mess.

965
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 3: Turn like a crazy mess, like like one hundred teenagers came.

966
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 4: In total destruction. Yeah, everything everywhere. I just love again.

967
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: Moments like that make me think of what really went

968
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: on on set and like the props person or like

969
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: around you always love.

970
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 4: Fancy Malone is like no more. It was always more

971
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 4: and more and then later later and fully and like

972
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 4: sounded like crunch make it crunch you walk, make it

973
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 4: just crunch underneath their feet, and then the dog lifts

974
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 4: its leg at the very punctuating the scene Michael's medical bag. Okay,

975
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 4: I was going to say I missed something that was

976
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 4: his medical bag was his medical bag. And literally the

977
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 4: dog like sort of looks at them.

978
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: Like if you yeah, But that's a train to act, right,

979
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: that to train the dog to lift you.

980
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: Like, although is thinking about getting a dog.

981
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 3: Every rescue dog I've ever had, and I've had several,

982
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 3: they peep for a little bit.

983
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: When they get home. You can train them out of it.

984
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 3: But just so you don't think, oh, no, they peede,

985
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 3: they have to go back to the shelter.

986
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: They don't. It's trainable.

987
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: But also maybe don't leave them to run rampant in

988
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: your living quarters even.

989
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: So, like you know, they'll look at you a couple

990
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: of mp. They don't know.

991
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 3: They're not trying to be bad, they just don't know

992
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 3: what they're doing. Yeah, but they're training.

993
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 2: I was a little shocked that they came out and

994
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: they're like, I'm like, you left that dog out there

995
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: or whatever create or no, like.

996
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 4: Doggy door or something. You were shocked.

997
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, you take your new dog to bed

998
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 3: with you. What is wrong with these people? My my

999
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 3: pug I first, when I first rescued her, she slept

1000
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 3: literally with her head in the crook of my neck.

1001
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 3: Of course pugs nurses A yeah, but I was like,

1002
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 3: worth it, worth it.

1003
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 4: Yes, coming out in the morning, Jane takes the dog

1004
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 4: out on a leash and tries to get the dog

1005
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 4: to listen to a command. She tells it, sit it.

1006
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 4: The dog will not listen. Sandy comes up and says, well,

1007
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 4: you know, training takes time, and counterintuitively removes the leash, like,

1008
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 4: look at this, training takes time. Let me just take

1009
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 4: this leash off, And to no one's surprise except for

1010
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 4: and Sandy's, the dog runs off, so they chase the

1011
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 4: dog out of the court. Then we go back to

1012
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 4: Billy's and Billy and Allison's apartment, where Jake is with

1013
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 4: Billy trying to pick the lock on Allison's room door

1014
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 4: at Billy's request, which seems like not a that idea. Now, okay,

1015
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 4: now we're on Alison's side here. Jake is telling Billy,

1016
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 4: you know, once, once we get it unlocked, there is

1017
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 4: no way to lock it again. Alison is gonna know

1018
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 4: you're in trouble, dude. This is this is going to

1019
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 4: turn into war. And yeah, he justifies it though this

1020
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 4: already is war. And let me take back my tapes.

1021
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 3: There's no way to lock it except to lock out

1022
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 3: and go out the window.

1023
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 4: You could do that. Take your tape, lock the door,

1024
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 4: climb out the window. But he takes the tapes and

1025
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 4: he throws some trash, misses the trash and doesn't even

1026
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 4: leave it, like, leave it, Jake, don't pick it up.

1027
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 4: I'm trying to stick it to Alison.

1028
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: Dress you war.

1029
00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, real, sure, billy. She won't let me wear her

1030
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 4: freaking black bra.

1031
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1032
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 4: So then we're back in the hospital where doctor Levin

1033
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 4: is rating Michael in front of all the other medical

1034
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 4: interns during rounds because he didn't follow routine procedure. He

1035
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 4: sort of mismedicated, and Michael is sort of defending himself,

1036
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 4: and doctor Levin sends Michael Holmes says, get your act together.

1037
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 4: So we're supposed to assume that Michael is still sort

1038
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 4: of not himself and he's not able to think clearly.

1039
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 4: It's affecting his job. So he storms into the hospital

1040
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 4: staff room. Kimberly follows, Michael says, you know, I messed up.

1041
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 4: Doctor Levin was right. Kimberly encourages him, however, saying, you

1042
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 4: know everyone messes up. I do think you're really not

1043
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 4: letting yourself feel anything and using work not to deal

1044
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 4: with what has happened. Not a great idea. So he

1045
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 4: doesn't want to hear her psycho analyzation right rushing it

1046
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 4: she is, she's.

1047
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, they well, I get it now because I know

1048
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: who Krimbly turned out to be. She's not like the

1049
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 2: most empathetics, that'sitive normal person.

1050
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 5: But his wife just had a.

1051
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 2: Miscarriage, and she keeps pushing like, you're not doing this,

1052
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 2: You're not you know, feeling your feelings. It is your

1053
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 2: feelings is as trying the relationship. She's trying to force

1054
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: intimacy between those two. That's what she's trying.

1055
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 3: But at that time she was just she may have

1056
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 3: been recurring in that character. So a lot of what

1057
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 3: they created here, what Thomas talked about, they worked on,

1058
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 3: is probably led to her character later, like the strength

1059
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 3: she comes in.

1060
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: With this character. I think she brought that.

1061
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 3: I think she brought that, and then they were like, hey,

1062
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 3: that works, let's bring that back.

1063
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 4: But this relationship with them establishes it in front of

1064
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 4: the audience as something that's been going on for a while.

1065
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 4: They already this level of comfortability where she can say

1066
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 4: these things to him, and so she's like, you know,

1067
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 4: you need to feel your feelings and and then she

1068
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 4: goes on to say, you know, I care about you,

1069
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 4: and he snaps at her saying, yeah, you know some

1070
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 4: you're just some intern that doesn't have a life of

1071
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 4: your own, and you know, sort of go to hell

1072
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 4: man scene they have a little.

1073
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 3: Fight like very million really, which is very intense that

1074
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 3: you wouldn't have with a normal coworker, right, which they

1075
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 3: already intense their relationship.

1076
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's an interesting timing that, like, while his

1077
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 4: wife is losing a baby and they're having this really

1078
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 4: big thing happened in their marriage, he's also showing us

1079
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 4: that he's got this relationship at work.

1080
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: Well, but I to his characters favor, I think he's

1081
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 2: not fanning the flames. He's not flirting back. He keeps

1082
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: pushing back and she keeps just keeps going at it.

1083
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: He's like, you know, you're not a shrink leving alone

1084
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 2: first time then a second time, Like I didn't see Michael.

1085
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 2: I've seen him before, and I'll see him again flirting

1086
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 2: and betraying his wife. I didn't think he was doing

1087
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 2: the betrayal, right, they worked together twenty hours a day,

1088
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 2: so that wasn't a problem.

1089
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's just interesting the timing awareness relations seeds.

1090
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 4: And then we see, yeah, it's just established right now that.

1091
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: She's great boundaries with him.

1092
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, no, she wants what she wants.

1093
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 4: So then we cut back to the beach where Jane

1094
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 4: and Matt are taking a walk on the beach with

1095
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 4: the dog, who is now named Jimmy.

1096
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 2: It went from Mutt, which is what Jake mean, right, dog,

1097
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 2: but Jimmy and then they'll end with another name.

1098
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 4: And Jane reveals that it's really the first terrible thing

1099
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 4: that's happened to her, and she realizes that's exceptional, you know,

1100
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,479
Speaker 4: And and Matt is really sympathetic in saying that nothing

1101
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 4: can really prepare you for loss, and it's good that

1102
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 4: she's expressing her feelings, and that's when Jane says she

1103
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 4: wishes Michael could express his feelings in the same way.

1104
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 4: At that point, Jane realizes, where's the dog? Yeah, And

1105
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 4: Jane and Matt run up the beach and I thought

1106
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 4: I caught Matt going dog. Yeah yeah, dog dog. Well

1107
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 4: that should do it. That's a trained dog. Dog.

1108
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1109
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: Funny, Yeah, it's funny.

1110
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 4: I think that it was a dog thing. Yeah.

1111
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1112
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 4: So then back at the courtyard, Billy has set up

1113
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 4: deck chairs outside the apartment and he is drinking and

1114
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 4: playing loud music with Jake from a boombox. When Alison comes.

1115
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 3: Home time and a like so obnoxious, trying to prove

1116
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 3: up maturious by drinking and playing a boom box on

1117
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 3: the battery, and they're.

1118
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 4: Sort of like, yeah, this is how I'm gonna show you.

1119
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 4: I'm sure, yeah, this is how what a child. And

1120
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 4: Alison is already like I'm over you, guys. Both She

1121
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 4: goes into.

1122
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: Her play vest and I are very mad at you.

1123
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 4: I'm sure was a very cute best I final notice

1124
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 4: may be the episode that that where they decided to

1125
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 4: switch consume.

1126
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: There are a lot of vests in this Did you

1127
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: realize there's a ton of yes seasonal, Yes, I wanted

1128
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 2: best Yeah.

1129
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 4: Yeah. So but Alison goes inside the apartment wearing her

1130
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 4: vest and comes immediately back out because she's realized that

1131
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 4: is broken into her room. You went into my room

1132
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 4: and he he says, yeah, well I needed the tapes

1133
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 4: that you borrowed and never returned, and Alison connects the

1134
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 4: dots realizes that Jake was the one to let her in,

1135
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 4: and then Jake says to Alison, Alison, you're blowing the

1136
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 4: out of proportion, which I thought nod. You've broken into

1137
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 4: her room. Wait a minute, now, can we defind Alison here?

1138
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 4: She is not blowing out they broke into her room.

1139
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 2: In this because usually Jake's aid like the forefront of everything,

1140
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 2: all this drama, you know, and he's like his big

1141
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 2: his big faux pas here is like, I think you're

1142
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 2: overreacting and you say, shut up, but he's probably Jake.

1143
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 4: So then Allison goes to Billy's room and says, how

1144
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 4: would you like it if I went through your stuff?

1145
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 4: And she's going through his stuff. She's like, I wouldn't

1146
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 4: really mind, and then Allison says, oh yeah. And then

1147
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 4: there's Playboy magazines.

1148
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: Which it's called I think Playmate because they couldn't Yeah.

1149
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 4: Okay, Playmate, play Playboy like magazines, and Alison's oh, yeah,

1150
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 4: well look at you you're just you're so sexist and

1151
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 4: you're preoccupied with women's memories. Uh huh, because we can't

1152
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 4: say boobs.

1153
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 1: I think I was trying to say more mature.

1154
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, both of you, I guess, so titties.

1155
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: And then I was the one in charge.

1156
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 4: All of this is true. They can't say boobs or

1157
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 4: women's bazoomblans.

1158
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 5: All the women. What did you say?

1159
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 4: We can't say that, but we shouldn't anyway. Okay, moving on,

1160
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 4: So Alison upset and accuses Billy basically, let's get to

1161
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 4: the gist, is that you're sexist and you're preoccupied with

1162
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 4: this stuff. She's pissed.

1163
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 5: She's pissed.

1164
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,919
Speaker 4: So back at Jane and Michael's apartment, Jane is hanging

1165
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 4: up the phone when Michael walks in. Jane is worried

1166
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 4: since he left the hospital hours ago, but he tells

1167
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 4: her that he's just been driving around thinking about stuff,

1168
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 4: and that's when Jane reveals to him that she lost

1169
00:52:55,160 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 4: the dog. Yeah, so Michael gets angry and Meane gets

1170
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 4: angry back, saying, wait a minute, you're you're you're angry

1171
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 4: about this dog and you're blaming me for losing this

1172
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 4: is like you're blaming me for losing the baby, and

1173
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 4: you're more angry about me losing the dog. But I

1174
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 4: can feel that this is you think I'm yeah, I'm

1175
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 4: at fault.

1176
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: Which actually that was a really clever way.

1177
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 2: And I thought, what do you mean the writers with

1178
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 2: the writing with with.

1179
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 3: The lose it and have that be the thing that

1180
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,280
Speaker 3: triggers you, because he can get mad about that obviously,

1181
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 3: as we say, if it's hysterical, it's historical.

1182
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 4: Obviously it's not.

1183
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: About the thing he's talking about. And she picks up, Yeah,

1184
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: that was a smart to do it.

1185
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, she calls him out and he admits it. I

1186
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 4: blame you.

1187
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: And then I thought he did that so well that

1188
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 2: they did that seem so well again doing all this

1189
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 2: grown up intense stuff, not kind of in a Melrose

1190
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 2: just dramatic situation. This is like real deep stuff. And

1191
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 2: I just thought Thomas did that really well. As Michael

1192
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 2: like he's like, yeah, yeah, that's a that's a huge

1193
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 2: honest vulnerability to admit I did I did that is

1194
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 2: what I'm thinking of me things because you had you

1195
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,479
Speaker 2: wanted to get rid of our baby.

1196
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 4: So then and we immediately go back to the hospital

1197
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 4: then where Michael is helping Kimberly uh with the vending

1198
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 4: machine and apologizes to her mm hmm interestingly, and Kimberly

1199
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,720
Speaker 4: said she thought about what Michael had said and realizes

1200
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 4: that she doesn't have a life outside the hospital. He's

1201
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 4: not wrong, and but she says, I was hoping that

1202
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 4: we were developing a relationship and Jane is a lucky woman.

1203
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: Can you imagine very forward?

1204
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 2: Now, you guys all were talking about this turn started

1205
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 2: to happen when Heather, but I'm thinking, like, this is

1206
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 2: more than Melrose two point out Melrose around the corner.

1207
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 4: So you think this was interesting, very telling, This is

1208
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 4: very so far.

1209
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 2: They're like going, yeah, I only do I know you

1210
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: have a wife, but she just wants a baby, and

1211
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: I know you both are devastated, but I want a.

1212
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 5: Thing with you and she just looks at him.

1213
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 4: He's a very That seems to me like the yeah

1214
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 4: version of And regardless of the way they chose to

1215
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 4: play it, like leaning into that or not, like it

1216
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 4: was there in the writing, like with the words your

1217
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 4: wife is a lucky woman and if she doesn't know that,

1218
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 4: she's a fool, Like that's for and that's no one

1219
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 4: said she yea so or doing anything wrong. Yeah, Kimberly

1220
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 4: is putting that in his brain. So then back to

1221
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 4: Billy's Billy and Allison in the apartment. They're trying to

1222
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 4: avoid each other, but they run into each other in

1223
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 4: the kitchen. Alison explains it. She feels violated and talking

1224
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 4: about it only makes it worse. Billy avoids eye contact,

1225
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 4: so he's he's like, She's like, you're not looking at me,

1226
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 4: and he's like, well, I'm afraid to.

1227
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 5: I can't.

1228
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 4: Even if I turn I might And so I'm trying.

1229
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 4: I'm trying to I'm trying to be sensitive and I'm

1230
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 4: trying not to look at you. But I don't want

1231
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 4: to be accused of this, and and Alison says, he

1232
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, you know, there's no way you could

1233
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 4: have known that what was what was going on with me?

1234
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 4: And then she ends up sharing that her mother had

1235
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 4: had a double misectomy after being treated for breast cancer

1236
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 4: when Alison was a child, and that it was it

1237
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 4: was really hard for the family, and she is very

1238
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 4: sensitive about any and all things that tie a woman's

1239
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 4: self esteem to her breasts and her body. And Alison

1240
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 4: realizes that she needs to talk about things more and oh,

1241
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 4: by the way, I knew, I always knew that you

1242
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 4: were the class clown. But she reveals the reason for

1243
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 4: her sensitivity and her reactions in it, So.

1244
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 3: She wion always be so testy, and I didn't notice

1245
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 3: until her just now talking about it, the parallels between

1246
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 3: Michael's storyline and Alison's storyline.

1247
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: Obviously things go right over.

1248
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 4: My head because you're focused on the dresses and the

1249
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 4: what I asked.

1250
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: I may not have been looking at what was important.

1251
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 1: I will admit that.

1252
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 4: Now it's nice we get this recaps so we can

1253
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 4: talk about it all together. Here's what really happened in

1254
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 4: the episode, not just your wardrobe, but.

1255
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 3: It's I mean it does. Then you can look back

1256
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 3: and go, oh, that's why she was so upset. I

1257
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 3: still wish I'd found more layers in the scenes. However,

1258
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 3: you can understand why she had such reaction, especially when

1259
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 3: she's clearly developing feelings for this guy, and then she

1260
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 3: feels scared, like what if this were to happen to me?

1261
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 3: Like what if I were to lose my breasts? Would

1262
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 3: you still? It's so vulnerable for women. Yes, another big issue,

1263
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 3: like they were really still left and right?

1264
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, big stuff.

1265
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 2: I do. Like how what you said these parallels again,

1266
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 2: that somebody is acting out, looking into what is a

1267
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 2: real issue. You in the mirror, him in the mirror,

1268
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 2: you know, triggered by the dog. But once you express it,

1269
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 2: there's such freedom and lightness and more love in the room.

1270
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 2: You know.

1271
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: Yes, the acting out is so much more of a

1272
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: problem than the telling the truth.

1273
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it really opens the relationship, Jane.

1274
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, covering the secret takes so much more energy and

1275
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 3: effort and anger misplaced and anger.

1276
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 4: So on that note, we cut to the beach where

1277
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:04,439
Speaker 4: Michael comes up to Jane, who's, oh, well, after they've

1278
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 4: put up flyers. All the gang is sort of putting

1279
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,919
Speaker 4: up flyers to try to find the lost dog. Maunt

1280
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 4: and Ronda and they're talking about poor Jane and what

1281
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 4: she's been through, and Sandy and Jane are also putting

1282
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 4: up flyers. Michael shows up to help actually, and Jane says, wait,

1283
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 4: why aren't you at the hospital. He says, well, actually,

1284
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 4: you know it's because of doctor Shaw, who encouraged me

1285
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 4: to come. And Jane says, you know, I don't know him, Yeah,

1286
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 4: tell me about him. I don't know that dog.

1287
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 5: I don't know him.

1288
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 4: He says, well, actually it's her. Oh, Jane says, should

1289
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 4: I be jealous? And Michael says probably.

1290
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 2: So I thought the way that he Thomas chose to

1291
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 2: play this was interesting, Yeah, because he said it in

1292
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 2: a way you know, you're writing this and you think

1293
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 2: we're gonna put down a you know, a little nugget

1294
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 2: there to be worried about that in the future. But

1295
00:58:55,440 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 2: he played it like, well, I'm a babe. Probably he

1296
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 2: made jealous. He didn't make it like I'm gonna say

1297
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 2: I don't know. He just said in a way that

1298
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 2: didn't seem ominous or something like yeah, you.

1299
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 4: Don't know, but it wasn't It wasn't comforting. It wasn't like,

1300
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 4: of course not honey, like like right, But like, you know,

1301
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 4: that is just interesting that this is the way we're

1302
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 4: depicting the character at this point. Yeah, and the very

1303
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 4: same episode that they lose their baby, he's also dropping

1304
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 4: this moment of like something something could happen the episode.

1305
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 2: But so my point to that insensitive writing is I

1306
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,959
Speaker 2: think Thomas as being I don't know, he's a skilled actor,

1307
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 2: is to make the choice of being not aggressive and

1308
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 2: not insensitive, but like like benign.

1309
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Speaker 4: Probably it was. It was a little provocative, but.

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00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 2: In my opinion, I really do think it was because

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00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 2: if you write this down, probably on Meloe's place, would

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00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 2: be like yeah, probably like Jake would have done, like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 3: Maybe we were starting to make the turn earlier than

1316
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 3: we realized, Like maybe they're starting to turn to make

1317
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 3: it a little more salacious earlier than we thought.

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 4: But he does come up to Jane later, hitting on

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01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 4: the camaran, and he tries to sort of explain his feelings,

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01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 4: and he tells Jane how sorry he is and that

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01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 4: he really wanted the baby too. So they're back together

1323
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 4: with their feelings and their sadness together. Then, also on

1324
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 4: the beach run the mountain Sandy are directed by a surfer. Hey,

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01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 4: we think we saw a dog over there. They run

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01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 4: down the beach, they meet a woman who's found the dog,

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01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 4: who the dog had come up to her and her

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01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 4: beach house, and the lady tells Jane and Michael what

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01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 4: a great dog he is and I named him Barney,

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01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 4: and Michael and Jane thank her, and before they walk away,

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01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 4: taking Barney with them, they think, wait, well.

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01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: And she also met her clips and casually that she

1333
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: just lost her husband.

1334
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 4: To keep the do I live alone and I didn't

1335
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 4: want to name the dog after my husband, but I

1336
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 4: still I live alone.

1337
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 5: I'm so sad.

1338
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 4: So Michael and Jane decide together, I think you're thinking

1339
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 4: what I'm thinking. We should leave this Barney dog with

1340
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 4: this lady, this nice lady. So they do, and she's thrilled,

1341
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 4: and Jane and Michael walk away on the beach together

1342
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 4: saying I love you, and they walk away into the

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01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 4: beachy sunset. End of episode.

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01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was sweet. I was just I thought the

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01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: whole time was what about the dog? What about the dog?

1346
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: So the dog is everybody at home?

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01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 3: The dog is okay for you other dog lunatics with

1348
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 3: they're crazy dog ladies.

1349
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: The dog is okay.

1350
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 2: Is going to be good for a beach dog, like

1351
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 2: a dog as a good home. I can see you

1352
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 2: see the mountain Alibi like, all up and down the coast.

1353
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 2: These kinds of dogs you know.

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01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 4: That have yeah speech, the dog in real life, I'm

1355
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 4: sure it was very well trained. So on that note,

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01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 4: I think we had an extra long chat session today

1357
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 4: and this was super fun. Always fun. We look forward

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01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 4: to answering more fan questions next time, I still so excited.

1359
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 2: You can always like pop in and really listen to these,

1360
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 2: watch these with us, because you start getting really good.

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01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 5: There's some real substance.

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01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 4: Here with lots of fun things ahead.

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01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, please watch the episodes. It really is so much.

1364
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 2: Fun for you to back listen and listen to it

1365
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 2: and download.

1366
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 5: What are they supposed to do?

1367
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 2: Subscribe, follow, download wherever you get podcamt nice.

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01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 4: Thanks for coming to steal the place.

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Speaker 1: Thanks everybody, exercise Bye,