WEBVTT - Pod Meets Twirl'd: The Traitors 410 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:12.200 Welcome to Pod Meets Twirl, the podcast from two guys 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:14.040 who had never seen an episode of Dancing with the 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:17.520 Stars but took it on and walked away experts. So 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:20.440 now we turn to Traders, another show I've never seen, 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:22.720 while Will is convinced he could win it. We are 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:26.520 Wilfred Dellen Ryder Strong. Two best friends, one a TV expert, 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:30.880 one a TV skeptic, both dance scholars, join us as 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:34.279 we step into this castle full of lies, alliances and 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:37.440 over the top wardrobe choices. This is Pod meets Twirled, 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:43.159 Trading places. Well, we're getting this. We're getting there, man, 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:43.760 getting there. 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:46.880 So Rob is sitting pretty then, because if they vote 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:49.760 out Eric and he doesn't ever say anything, that's what 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:50.200 he wants. 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:53.760 Yeah, he's gonna turn on Eric now he should. 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:56.200 I think there's a good chance that some version of 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:56.880 that will happen. 0:00:57.120 --> 0:00:58.800 Yes, because Eric is so bad. 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:01.040 Oh it's the bad. We'll get it. 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:05.360 But he's like, okay, it's like just sitting at this 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:08.200 round table like watching everybody. 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:11.840 But dude, you're not even trying. And he knows he's 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:16.320 so bad because a they killed Kristen, which I can't 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:17.240 believe they got away. 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:17.479 With her. 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:24.200 Mentioned is the worst at this game. I know, Danielle 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:26.080 talked about him like he's a great guy. Seems like 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:28.319 a great guy, horrible at Traders. 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:28.800 Better than Tara. 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:33.920 Uh maybe at least Tara like cries and recognizes that 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:34.760 she's horrible. 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:39.160 Mark is like, dude, because like you know, it's like 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:41.039 somebody comes up to was like, hey, are you a trader? 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:46.679 He's like, yeah, what's a trader? I don't know. 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:50.960 He's Spanish all but like all of a sudden, I don't. 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:58.520 Know what you do. Yeah, oh my god, yeah I 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:02.920 love it though it's you. Oh my god, all right. 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:08.040 Episode ten begins with breakfast Rob and moiderth come on 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:15.280 in eggs. Didn't want him to stop him to. 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:16.680 Take about take about it for a second, give me 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:18.799 tw eggs. Your we combostored. 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:20.800 And then Rob has this thing where he's like, all 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:22.520 the de see it has taking a toll on me, 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:25.760 And I'm starting to genuinely feel bad, which is interesting, 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.440 Like yeah, yeah, man, it's gotta be tough. You also 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:30.560 win into everybody all day every day. 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:34.960 I keep thinking about the timeline of everything too. 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.520 I mean, you keep keep in mind, this is like 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:38.600 a week for them. 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.840 Right, right, this is like a week, right, and and 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:43.919 and so so, like three days ago he was dealing 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:47.960 with canvas. Yes, yeah, five days ago, my report was 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:50.520 shoveling food into his face. Like, this is not that 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:54.120 long ago for them. So yeah, it's the whole thing. 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:58.919 But I have somewhere Michael Rappaport is still shuffling, slimmering 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:00.720 it up for something. 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.919 But yeah, it's one of those things where I can 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:05.640 see his point of view though, where after a while 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:07.280 it's got to be like I'm all I'm doing is 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:10.480 lying all day long to everyone. It's gotta be tough 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:11.040 after a while. 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:13.800 Yeah, if you have any. 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:14.840 You know, any form of a conscience, that's got to 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:15.200 be tough. 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:15.720 Yeah. 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.760 Yeah, wouldn't bother does he does, He wouldn't bother me 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:20.760 at all. 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:24.239 He'd be fine, you'd be thriving, you'd be actually getting energy. 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:25.600 Getting off on it. Yeah, exactly. 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:27.919 I haven't told anyone the truth in a week, and 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:32.280 it's god. Uh, well, I thought this was interesting. 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.960 He didn't really bring it up later, but at roundtable 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:39.040 somebody brought up how Rob seemed off. I forget. I 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:41.320 think it was Nat And yeah, and it's interesting that 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.680 what was off, was that he's feeling the pressure, the 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.760 emotional pressure of having to lie to everybody all the time. 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:52.480 Yeah, oh god, I don't I can't remember last season, 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:55.360 but I don't think I've seen anybody who's been a 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:57.160 trader the whole time. 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:01.000 Start to finish. They always people get caught in, recruited and. 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:03.800 Recruited and cotton in them. Whoever's recruited maybe has to 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.240 recruit somebody. He's been a trader, he's been playing this 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:11.119 game since the first day. Yeah, that's got to be rough. Yeah. 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:17.360 So then Eric and Mark come in, obviously not murdered, 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:21.880 and then Terror comes in, and this is where she 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:26.440 starts her whole like, my radar is off, I don't 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:31.040 know anything. I'm feeling really dumb, which yeah, but then 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:34.120 unfortunately she doesn't get any better. I thought this meant 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:37.680 that she would actually like change her behavior or not 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:40.839 trust her instincts or something. And she spends most of 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:43.560 the day going after Rob and. 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:45.120 I was like, oh my god, is she gonna be 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:47.400 the one who's gonna shoot a shot in the dark 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:48.360 and take down the king? 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:49.640 And that what happens? 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:53.880 What happened? I don't understand, like her and Johnny all day. 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:55.680 I was like, they're gonna do it. Oh my god, 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:59.360 they're gonna do it, and she's I think she's too scary. 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.080 It reminds me of there's an episode of Seinfeld where 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:04.920 George Castanza realizes every instinct he's ever had in his 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:07.600 life has been wrong, so he does the direct opposite 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:09.040 of everything in his life starts. 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.520 To become amazing. I feel that's what she needs to do. 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:13.360 It's like, I really think it's rob So that's why 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:17.799 I'm voting for you, Like it's exactly you know, So yeah, 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:21.680 it's but it's it's getting comically bad with her with 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:23.880 how bad it is, and that's why you never have 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:25.719 to kill her or do anything. She can't be a 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.360 trader because, as Mark says later in the episode, where 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.320 he's like, it's the best acting in the history of 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:34.159 the world if she if she's really I mean, like 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:38.000 the best Academy Award, she's Meryl Streep if she's a trader, 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:39.960 because she can't. 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:44.520 Nobody could be fumbling around this much. It's pretty bad. 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:47.840 No, But I mean, actually, if I were one of 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:51.920 the faithful in this scenario, I would really be turning 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:54.760 on Johnny in this situation, because I'd be watching her 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.720 go through all of this and be like, oh, she's 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:00.400 actually a faithful and Johnny's been lying to her this 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:02.560 whole time because that, you know what I mean, Like 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:05.280 that seems like the dynamic that I would that I 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:07.640 would predict just from if I was one of the faithful, 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.360 But no one's even really brought that up, like they 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:12.919 were suspicious of Johnny like an episode or two ago, 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:14.159 and then everyone just dropped it. 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:14.479 Yeah. 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:15.960 I just I just don't know how they're playing. 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:18.000 They get off people very quickly. 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:19.400 Where it's like it's got to be this person, got 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.279 to be this person. Then they don't vote for that person. 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:22.760 Then they never bring them up again. 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.920 Right, I mean that's Mark is just falling. I mean 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:27.880 he's going to look back on his performance this whole 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.080 season and be like, oh my god. 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:30.760 Yeah. 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:32.400 I mean Eve and More are both because they're both 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:35.960 just like well, if anybody it's not Rob and you're like, really, 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:40.239 why why why why would you assume that? Like even 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:42.080 I say, with Tara and Johnny, I could see like 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:44.040 the whole like we're best friends, we wouldn't lie to 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:46.800 each other. But even that's bullshit, that's not the way 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:50.200 the game is played. You're lying doing that's the worst 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:53.240 way to play because the person's gonna have you in 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:55.320 their pocket if they are a trade, because they'll just 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:57.359 rely on the fact that you're their best friend. 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:00.000 It's also as an audience member, though, it's a wonder 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:05.360 full psychological kind of rorshack test almost because as they're 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.560 talking about, like everybody's going, well, maybe we need to 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:10.840 start concentrating on people that nobody that haven't had suspicion 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:12.400 on them at all, like like a Rob like in 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:16.400 Eric something like that, And who's saying this Maura who 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:20.280 nobody has ever once mentioned the possibility that she and 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:22.720 she's just skated through the whole time. 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:25.120 I know, how do you know, how does no one 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:25.800 throw her out? 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:28.600 Do you think they just don't give her credit like 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:30.040 for me being manipulative? 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:32.800 I mean maybe where's she's too much of a simpleton 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:33.800 quote unquote. 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:36.720 Kind of because I mean it's it's what's working for Rob, right, 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.080 Like everyone thinks that he's kind of not that smart 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:41.760 or wouldn't be manipulated, and like they kept turning on 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.720 Natalie and being like you're really smart, and it's like, 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:46.840 why is that a problem. 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:49.600 She's also said to my favorite moment of the entire episode. 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:53.360 Ter like and you are, okay, you're here too smart too? 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:59.360 You're smart, But that's what I mean. They're so just 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:03.560 thinking about this wrong, like they're not Yeah, all right, anyway, 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:07.120 Tarah comes in by herself, says her radar's off. Then 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:13.120 Johnny comes in solo, and then Natalie meaning they murdered Kristen, 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:18.600 which is my immediate thought was what idiots? Because she 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:21.440 literally said Eric was acting weird. You know that it's Eric, 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:23.160 and no one. 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:26.280 Follows up with that. No, this entire episode, markus, well, 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:30.480 what are you doing? Think about it as a trade, 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:33.040 as a trader. It's a horrible thing to say. And 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.680 I'm not denigrating anybody. Rob got rid of all the 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:39.120 smart people, but it's true. 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:40.640 Think about who's left. 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:43.920 Oh god, that's so embarrassing and true. 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:46.240 Think about it. 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:47.960 It's like the worst players, right. 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:50.920 Natalie was the last you know, somebody where it was like, ooh, 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:53.880 she's playing the gamesmart thinking that kind of thing. 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:56.320 That's it. Think about who's left. 0:08:56.320 --> 0:09:02.000 You've got Tara, Johnny, Eric, who's another trade Moura and 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:06.320 Rob's and Mark true, right, so they can say what 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:06.680 they want. 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:08.320 We got rid of the gamers first, and we got 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:10.520 rid of the housewives. They got rid of the smart people. 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.400 Right, there's literally nobody well, or even if you don't 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.760 say smart, just good players. They literally get what I. 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:22.439 Meantinctually smart players. Not necessarily. I'm sure they're they're smart. 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:25.400 People who are strategizing in any regard because as it is, 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:28.320 they're really just doing the dumbest things. Like Mark and 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:30.680 Moyra are just like, well, I can't be Rob because 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:31.320 I like him. 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:35.840 Tara is literally arguing with herself. I know where she'll 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.000 be like, it's definitely this person, and then she'll vote 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:41.280 against the things she said all day long. Yep, So 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:43.400 it's again that's what I mean smart. Smart might be 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.840 the wrong word. You're right, because it's not intelligent, just 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:51.079 gameplay and good as Oh about who's left. 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.360 Well, I was surprised. I was shocked at they murdered Christian. 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:56.360 I really thought that that was a bad move because 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:59.600 she had really just pointed her fingers directly at Eric. 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:04.320 But I also think that they had to because Rob 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:07.400 and Eric, you know, the conversation and the turret, which 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:11.120 they probably cut out from the previous episode was Eric 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:12.319 being like, I'm not gonna be able to act my 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.000 way out of this, Like I can't if Kristin is 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:17.160 still there. I'm just gonna cave tomorrow if she talks 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:20.880 to me. Yeah, exactly, because I mean that's what it 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:22.440 had to come down to, right, because they were like, 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:24.240 look you because he said at the end of the 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:27.080 last episode, Rob said to him, you just have to 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:31.800 be cool, and you know, they must have decided he couldn't. Sorry, 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:32.840 really can't. 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:33.520 He's easy. 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:35.760 You're walking by the cops with walking by the cops 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.560 with your friend, and your friend is drunk as hell, 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:39.920 and you're like, just be cool, just. 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:42.000 To be cool, just just don't fall on your face 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:42.640 and we'll get home. 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:46.480 Okay. That it's the Yeah, he's that guy, So yeah, 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:47.400 it's uh. 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:48.480 But watching it is. 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:53.280 Just one kind of ye after another, and they don't. 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:57.600 This episode, at least, Rob and Eric didn't really have 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:01.760 to do much. It was kind of everybody else taking 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:04.640 the heavy lifting. Well. Rob worked a little bit in 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.520 the I feel like he had to defend himself rolls 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:10.080 it in at the right time, yes, which is great, 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:11.719 But for the most part he kind of got to 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.320 sit back and let Natalie and Tara and everybody else 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.880 just kind of do their thing. And I feel bad 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:19.800 for Mark in a way because Mark is now one 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:21.800 of what the five people left, six people left, and 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:23.760 this guy still doesn't get a lot of camera time. 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:26.160 It's like they're still cutting everybody else but Mark. 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:28.720 Yeah. I think he's one of those like probably really 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:33.160 nice in real life, obviously a talented dancer, but doesn't 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:37.040 bring much personality and manage or much, you know, which 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:39.400 is why he's lasted this long, because he's just not 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:40.720 really plain. I don't know. 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:42.800 Man, More's the same way though. 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:47.240 I'm kind of there, I know, but I love her accents. 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:47.800 I love her. 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:51.760 So after breakfast, Tara says this thing she slept on. 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:53.920 It doesn't think it's Natalie. 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:58.880 Okay, you slept on it, and now you've decided it's 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:00.920 not Natalie, which you're. 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:02.400 Going to go back on by the end of the day. 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:07.360 She like does this whole speech like it's so she's just. 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:11.480 I mean, when she's crying at the end, it's it's 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:15.760 on you, lady, like, yeah, okay. And then Mark and 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:21.840 Rob talk and you know, Mark is just in Rob's pocket. Yeah, 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:25.400 you know, it's like this is this is the moment 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:28.640 where you could talk about Eric, really talk about Eric, and. 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:31.240 But he's said it several times, which is which is 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:35.480 so interesting again the psychological kind of disadvantage that he's 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:37.959 at because he's he has like he was like, I've 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:39.959 first of all, keep in mind what he does for 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:42.760 a living requires a partner for dancing. 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:43.400 Mm. 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:48.000 His partner was Kristen essentially in this game. Now she's gone, 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.520 and he said several times like I'm I'm alone on 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:50.959 an island. 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.839 I've got nobody. So he just wanted to latch onto 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:54.320 a group. 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:57.760 So I think the second he latched on, then he's like, okay, 0:12:57.800 --> 0:12:58.440 this is my new group. 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:00.720 I have friends. I'm fine, so I can't. 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:03.079 Vote for them, right, And it's like he just latched 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:06.640 on looking for, yeah, somebody to have lunch with in 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:07.400 the cafeteria. 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.079 Totally that point, and it's it gets a little sad. 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.880 Yeah, well that's the thing. They're all voting, like, they're 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:16.040 all basically just going off of who they like or 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:18.120 who they get along with. And it's like that's not 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:19.720 the point of the game. The point of the game 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:24.640 is who's been eliminated? Why have they been eliminated. Who's 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:26.960 who's led us in the direction to keep making mistakes 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.760 because they've made more mistakes than not and they are 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:32.040 they're not paying attention to you know, or when they 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:34.199 do when they bring up like Candice voted for Rob, 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:35.320 that's weird. 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:39.120 And they're thing is they're throwing out the good clues 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:42.360 and then kind of disregarding them. So, yeah, it's I 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.040 was like, I thought there was gonna be some kind 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:49.640 of wonderful poetry to the fact that Tara, who was 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.200 this terrible player who's never once gotten it right, was 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:53.120 going to get Rob out. 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:54.800 I thought, so, you know what, I was gonna be like, 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:56.120 this is kind of brilliant. 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:57.840 If this is the way, you can't like the whole 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:00.280 day was going that way. Yes, Because then the car 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:02.560 right on the way to the mission, Tara, Natalie, and 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:07.839 Moira are discussing Rob. Moira's not budging on the Rob thing, 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:12.160 but you know, she she actually says, uh, she would 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.600 storm out of the castle if it was him, because 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:17.520 she's so convinced. It's like, what, why, what do you 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:20.120 mean storm out of the castle, Like, yeah. 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:21.040 A guy she's doing a week. 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:27.040 Yeah, she's she's just in love with him. Yes, there's 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:30.080 a chemistry. Yes, I totally think she's just being an 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.120 idiot because she's just like, well, I can't be a Rob. 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:35.640 We're gonna hear a little later that they're dating. 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:37.680 Yeah, totally, yeah. 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:38.920 Absolutely, that's what's gonna happen. 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:42.640 Yeah, so all right in the car, Natalie pushes for 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:48.520 Rob with uh Tara and Johnny, which is like, hey, 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:52.520 a good move and kind of Natalie's only move and 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:55.240 Tara and I was like, yeah, this is you know, 0:14:55.720 --> 0:15:01.840 smart the mission again they set. I love like I 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:05.760 just love a good creepy carnival yep. And it was perfect, 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.760 great production design, creepy carnival. 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:10.720 Little American horror stories esque yep. 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:13.880 Did the word caras Hell work for you? 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:15.600 I mean it was of. 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:19.920 I just kept wanting to say Caroshel Karrish. When I 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:23.120 saw it, I was like, oh, caras Hell, But then 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:25.040 it was like my brain when I was reading it 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:26.320 was like no, no, no, that's Kroshell. 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:29.800 You's got the shell. I got the call. 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:34.200 Show with the brain on it. Oh my god. Well 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:37.160 I love that they have their dummies and Natalie. Did 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:39.840 you notice Natalie holding the dummy Eric's hand. 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.440 Yes, we're going to get through this. 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:46.480 Oh, we're going to get through this. I I mean 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:49.160 I would probably throw up. I am really bad at 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:51.560 like spinning things like this. I remember throwing up when 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:53.720 I was a kid on the little tire swings, you know, 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:55.600 when people would wind you up on the tire swings. 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:58.120 So I would not be good at this yet. 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:01.320 No, I uh, I don't disagree. 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:05.240 I for some reason, when I'm focused on other things, 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:06.960 I can get bet. So if I'm like I knew 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:08.120 it was part of a game where I've got to 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:09.640 get out. I've got to spin five times, get out 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:12.120 and then run, psychologically, I could probably get through it. 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:13.560 As opposed to just you're going on a ride. We're 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.680 gonna spin you around, right, It's rough. Just that's all 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:18.080 you're doing. We're just spinning you see. 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:19.680 I mean I get motion sickness. So I wonder if 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:21.560 that would count, Like if I could just say, like 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:24.840 I'm gonna throw up, if you you know, make me 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:26.160 like sit in a car and read. 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:28.200 Well, I can tell you that if they keep in 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:30.600 line with what they did last year. The last challenge 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:31.440 is huge. 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.040 Really, it's like physically well. 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.160 The one they did last year was you literally you're 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:41.640 all harnessed in and then a helicopter comes and straps 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:43.440 you to the bottom of a helicopter so you're like 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.280 hanging on a wire flies you all the way up 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:49.360 and over the trees that are hundreds of feet tall, 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:51.000 and you have to drop money into these things. 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:53.120 So it was like it was pretty massive. 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:56.840 At this point too. Also, having a shield is not 0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:00.600 as important as like having a dagger. Yeah, it seems 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:04.040 more important if you are in any position, if you're 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:07.440 a trader or a faithful you want to be able 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:10.040 to sway the votes because if you're trying to get 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:12.359 a trader and you believe in yourself or your team 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:15.480 or whoever, you know, that extra vote that's more important 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:17.480 than if somebody gets murdered or not at this rate, 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:18.560 I think, because. 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:20.680 Like, yeah, I think it's also though, if you're a trader, 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:22.680 they wanted it just so they had carte blanche with 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:24.679 whoever they It's like, we can kill anybody we want to. 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:25.359 We don't have to. 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:28.359 You know, if Natalie got the shield and Natalie was 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:31.000 the one coming after them, and it was like okay, 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:32.760 we can, we can this way, we don't have to 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:34.280 worry about who we're going to kill. We can kill 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:36.840 whoever we want. Yeah, so I think that makes a difference. 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.199 But yeah, the the dagger I think was important. 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.480 I just feel like the game at this point is more. 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:46.879 The roundtable is a bigger deal than the murders, you know, I. 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:48.320 Think that's Yeah. I think that's true too. 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:49.000 Yeah. 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:50.679 Is there Oh yeah there is. I was going to say, 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:51.960 is there another murder? But yeah, there is. We just 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:54.800 don't know who it is, right, I think of what 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:55.639 it's going to be though. 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:57.199 Really I do. 0:17:57.359 --> 0:17:57.679 Yeah. 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:03.640 All right, Hey, guys, guess what Pod meets t World 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:06.600 is approaching our next season of reality TV. 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