1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Katty arm Strong, and 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: Jetty and he Armstrong and Yetty. 4 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: Honestly serious question, I should put this to the listeners. 5 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: I don't even know if I want to be this 6 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: kind of person or not. I'm not a boycott person. 7 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: I'm not a well I'm not a boycott person. But 8 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: I don't think I could have listened to that screed 9 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: from Springsteen and stayed for the rest of the concert. 10 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: It was just one step too. 11 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: Far for me. 12 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: For me, i'd held my breath and waited it out 13 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: like a painful dental procedure, than when the second chapter began. 14 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: That's when I would have said, all right, f this, 15 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: pardon me, I'm out. The painful part is you can't 16 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: boo them, because you'll think you're just saying Bruce well right. 17 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: As I mentioned earlier, The part that bothers me the 18 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: most is it's got that whole I'm cool and all 19 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 2: you people are cool that agree with me, and we're 20 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 2: the cool people, and people that don't agree with this 21 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: are uncool people. That is enough to drive me out 22 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: of the arena. 23 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 1: Not just uncool but stupid and down with fascism. Right, 24 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: oh good lord? And then you agree, of telecasters. 25 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 2: Your point earlier just from a I mean, you know, 26 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: just narrow Bruce Springsteen's audience thing, he used to be 27 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: the champion of the working class, and the working class 28 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: is clearly maga. I mean they're like sixty five percent 29 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 2: of his audience is probably maga. 30 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: Now, if you could take every character from every single 31 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: Bruce Springsteen's song and animate them, they would vote in 32 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: the eightieth percentile for Trump. Yeah that's correct. Yeah, what 33 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: what he's just He is a very wealthy, creeative artist, 34 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: a very old, very wealthy creative artist who's utterly out 35 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: of touch with the people he thinks he represents. You know, 36 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: the most annoying, pretentious thing is that ever happened? And 37 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: this was how many Christmases a go, now, maybe five? 38 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 2: When him and Obama Thank you gladys, When him and 39 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: Obama did that DVD book set thanging Did you. 40 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: Ever see any of that? 41 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: And then the bookstores you could get this big, giant 42 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: coffee table book and it had Bruce and Obama's faces 43 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: on the cover, laughing, And then pictures of them together 44 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: having a conversation about America, and then there's a video 45 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: that goes with it and stories from Bruce. I mean, 46 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: it's just it was the most over the top, two 47 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: completely out of touch rich people. 48 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: It was vomit worthy. 49 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what would be the example, like the reverse. 50 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: For the other crowd. 51 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,119 Speaker 2: I mean it'd be like if Trump and I don't 52 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: even know what it would be Obama springs to sitting 53 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: around like bathed in their own self enjoyment is Ah, 54 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: it's just too much. 55 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: He either missed that or blotted it out because it 56 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: was too terrible. I send you a Lincoln in white. 57 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: It's got a real and he lebo. It's so artistic, 58 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 2: you know, we're. 59 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: A the whole thing. I hate everything about it. 60 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: If I ever walked into somebody house and they got 61 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: that on their coffee table, I'm not even gonna say 62 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: anything about why I'm leaving. 63 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: I'll just turn and walk out, like where'd he go? 64 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: I'm setting fire to it. You're gonna make a stubber, 65 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: all right. So Final hour of the Week, got a 66 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: lot of stuff to squeeze in. You gonna have to 67 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: choose carefully. There's fifteen pounds a show for a five 68 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: pound bag. But let's kick it off with the Friday tradition. 69 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: It's fun look back at the week that was. It's 70 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: cow clips of the week. You're saying, he's dead. Lights 71 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: are blinking, the sirens are turning. Whip the week. 72 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 3: America, I love, that has been a beacon of hope 73 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 3: and liberty for two hundred and fifty years is currently 74 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: in the hands of a corrupt, incompetent and treesonistric administration. 75 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: The drastic d escalation in the trade war between the 76 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: United States and China, so there is a chance to 77 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: rebalance together. This is not a political conference, this is 78 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: a business conference. I want to make a deal with Iran. 79 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: I want to do something of as possible. 80 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 4: There's two steps. Is a very very nice step and 81 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 4: there's a violent step. I don't want to do the 82 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 4: second step. 83 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: The equipment that we use, much of it, we can't 84 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: buy parts for now. We have to go on eBay 85 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: and buy parts. 86 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: Any of the representatives that were there, you lay a 87 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 2: finger on them, we are going to have a problem. 88 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: You can intimidate me, come back, give me a break. 89 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 4: I was one of a green uniform barbitu rel agent 90 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 4: for five years before she was even born. 91 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: The bottom line is the was lying. I think some 92 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: of the criticism is fair. To be honest of me again, 93 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: it makes me mental. It was clear with me. Now. 94 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: Two of the heroic reporters were covering this intensely during 95 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: the Biden years. We're coming up close to the one 96 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: trillion dollar amount is lost every year a fraud. You 97 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: saw it coming? 98 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,559 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean it was like they threw money 99 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 2: in the air and just let people run around and 100 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: grab it. 101 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 5: Sow. 102 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: I'm Dinny Combs. 103 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 2: The so called freak offs happened weekly, many of the 104 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 2: sessions photographed and filmed. She even testified about him, you know, 105 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 2: threatening to blow up Wrapper Kid Cutty's part. 106 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: I think he convicted. Trump's gonna impart me President. Could 107 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: I asked you a question. 108 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 4: What I'm in London and I just paid for this 109 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 4: damn fat drug I take? 110 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: I said, it's not working. 111 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 5: Lit more expensive than slower than a bus. 112 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: Hanson has been working on AI songs about California's idiotic 113 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: just spectacularly evil theft bullet train more expensive and slower 114 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: than bus. That was the jingle. I wrote, Oh, that's fantastic, 115 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: fleshed out via AI. That has to be that has 116 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: to catch on. The bullet train more expensive and slower 117 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: than a bus. They play fifteen for us right, bullet. 118 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 6: Train borens expay a body down the drain, said, but 119 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 6: it will make news. 120 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: I'm not like less of a man. The bullet train. 121 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 5: More expense, so man slower than a bus? 122 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: Hop on d it? What was I saying before you laugh? 123 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: I laughed. If it's hilarious, let's run that five million times? Please? 124 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: I love I hear it again right now. 125 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 7: I love that Hanson has become like the show's AI voice, 126 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 7: like we can't hear him, but he just sends us 127 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 7: all of these nuggets. 128 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: Especially when Newsom finally announces and he's trying to make 129 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: his way through the Democratic primary. 130 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: Every time we mention him, it's got to be that hook. 131 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: The bullet train. 132 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 5: More expensive and slower than of us. 133 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: Bullet train. 134 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 6: Born tax, pay a bonnet down the train you won't 135 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 6: see or. 136 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: Said, but he will make news look. 137 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 5: Like let's super Man. 138 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: The bullet train. 139 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 5: More expensive, that slow than a bus. 140 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: That is just gold. 141 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: Oh, I want to be the person who plays a 142 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: tambourine on that song. All I do is I just 143 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: hit it on my hip and shake it. 144 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, it's good work if you can get it. Hey, 145 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: let's uh is this is thirteen the Metal one Michael 146 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: play that it's a. 147 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 6: Scammaboon dogle, a waste of our time from Mercy Bakersfield. 148 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: Who would say, right. 149 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 6: Than a play more expensive than a bus? It's a 150 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 6: song cost this fuss. 151 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 2: I think it's interesting cost getting into economic principles in the. 152 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: Middle of the ah. You don't hear that so much metal. 153 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: I like the fact that AI, which is all knowing, 154 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: pronounces Merced merst even though there is no word mersed 155 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: the only way you would ever write me e r 156 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: c ed in English languages. You know the town of Merced, 157 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: But AI, with all its genius, doesn't know that. 158 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: You haven't walked into the mall and found yourself. You 159 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 2: look around and I was mersed. No, no, I haven't 160 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: you know. 161 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: I like to medal, but I like the airy, dopey, 162 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: poppy feel of the Heart Family issue. Yeah, it's just 163 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: so relentlessly pleasant in describing the utterly indefensible theft of 164 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: billions and billions of hundreds of billions of dollars bullied 165 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: hop on, bore a body down the drink. I feel 166 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: like I'm but it will make news. 167 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 5: I'm not like less of a man, more expensive than 168 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 5: slow than a bus. 169 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 1: Bullboard, folks, the California Bullet Train coming to you in 170 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: the year twenty seventy six. 171 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: Well, that's the other part that was great is that 172 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: they said most of it will be done in two decades. 173 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: If I didn't even say all of it two decades 174 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: from now, MERCE said to Gilroy, Palmdale, Gilroy to Palmdale, 175 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: Oh all right right, all right, Palmdale. Yes, check out 176 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: a map, folks, if you're not familiar with the sprawling 177 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: geography of cal Unicornia. 178 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 7: Because Hanson loves when I suggest things that give him 179 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 7: more work. 180 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: Could we get a shirt? Could we get a shirt? 181 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: The bullet train more expensive and slower than a bus. 182 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: I will wear that shirt. I will wear it all. 183 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: I will wear it all the time. It's got to 184 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: have the California the cal Unicornia state flag on it too. Yeah, 185 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: walking billboard right here? 186 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I love that, fitting in with the Bruce 187 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: Springsteen working man thing. 188 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: I listened to a podcast yesterday with Senator Phil Graham. 189 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: Anybody remember him? Senator from Texas Republican PhD in economics. 190 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 2: I didn't remember that he ran for president a couple 191 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: of times. Didn't get a whiff. You know why, because 192 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 2: he was like a serious guy about small government and 193 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 2: fiscal sanity. We want a game show host, yay. But 194 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: he's got a new book out about the myths of 195 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 2: he'd written a book called The Myth of American Inequality 196 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, and he's got a new 197 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: one out called The Triumph of Economic Freedom that point 198 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: out some interesting things about kind of the whole Bruce 199 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: Springsteen thing. Really that is I thought, really interesting. Maybe 200 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 2: I'll pass that along among other things on the way, 201 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: stay here. 202 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 8: This guy's I read that the Denver Airport was recently 203 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 8: hit with an outage and some pilots couldn't contact air 204 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 8: traffic control for six minutes. Meanwhile Newer Airport was like 205 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 8: six minutes, please cost when he hit six days that. 206 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: Way six minutes? 207 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, air traffic controller in the Wall Street Journal today 208 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 2: talking about how close call that he had a week 209 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: or so ago at Newark and now he's really worried 210 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 2: there's going to be a crash soon because of these 211 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: various outages and he just barely caught one and was 212 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 2: able to straighten it out two planes that were headed. 213 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: Toward each other. 214 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: He can't do this endlessly where you have you know, 215 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: two minutes here, two minutes there, drop out at busy airports. 216 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: No, No, there are problems top to bottom with the system. 217 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: I believe that firmly, so I mentioned this. 218 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: I was listened to a podcast interview with former Senator 219 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 2: Phil Graham, who I did not have on my radar 220 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 2: in my life. I wish I had because I actually 221 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: saw our friend Tim Sanderfer, who he had on earlier 222 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: in the show. 223 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: If you missed that, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty 224 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: on the Men. 225 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 2: Tim Sanderfer changed his registration in California to Republicans so 226 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 2: he could vote for Phil Graham when Phil Graham briefly 227 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: ran for president back in the day, although he never 228 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: got to because Phil Graham dropped out because he's one 229 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: of those people, like a lot of politicians, it's like 230 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: actually serious about governance and spending and dealing with things, 231 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 2: and those people never. 232 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: Get the nomination. Yeah, he's not a pandering whore. Yes, 233 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: And he's got a book out right now and he's 234 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: in his eighties. Now he's a very old guy. He 235 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: was a senator from Texas. 236 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: The myth of American inequality came out a couple of 237 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 2: years ago, and he's got a new one, the triumph 238 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 2: of Economic Freedom, which sounds like very similar, like restructuring, 239 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 2: hoping it gets attention again. 240 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: But one of the things he pointed out, and I've 241 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: never heard this before, that. 242 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: For all kinds of different like artistic, cultural reasons and 243 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: some economic reasons, the industrial Revolution gets a bad rap 244 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 2: and always has and it continues till this to this 245 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 2: day of this idea that there was before the the 246 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 2: Industrial Revolution, there was some sort of man, it was 247 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: great to be a farmer out in the fields, living 248 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 2: the good life, free of you know, being bothered and 249 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: and everything like that in exploitation. And then the Industrial 250 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: Revolution came along and forced everybody into this exploitive world 251 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: and all this poverty, and. 252 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: That is the narrative. 253 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: Yep. He points out that a lot of that has 254 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: to do with Charles Dickens and a number of other 255 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 2: people who wrote that story, and it just kind of 256 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: caught on and has lived forever, ignoring the fact that 257 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: the reason people flowed into the factories and everything like 258 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: that is because the life they were living was incredibly 259 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: exploitive and brutal on the farms, almost always farming mostly 260 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: for someone else, and them getting all your work and 261 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: you barely getting by, and you living with like fifteen 262 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: people in one house and half the kids died, and 263 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: all these other statistics that got so much better after 264 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: the Industrial Revolution, right, and that prior to the Industrial Revolution, 265 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: I thought this was really interesting. 266 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: The idea of what do we do about the poor 267 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: people started with the Industrial Revolution. 268 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: It was the first time anybody had ever even considered 269 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 2: the fact that maybe we could do away with people 270 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: who are just so incredibly poor and have such miserable lives. 271 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: Prior to that, it was just assumed. 272 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: That most of us did and would and always will 273 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: and because there was like a chance that maybe you 274 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: could get out of that. Ever since then, there's been 275 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: this weird belief that it's horrible that there are poor 276 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: people that are being exploited and have rough lives and 277 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: we need to have a war against that and eliminate it. 278 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 2: It's only because things got so good that you could 279 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: even have that conversation, So we've kind. 280 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: Of have it completely backwards. Our view of that whole thing. Right, 281 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: what's really interesting to me is the sort of person 282 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: who becomes a scribbler hasn't changed a ton, I don't 283 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: think in one hundred and fifty years. In that you 284 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: have something built that's amazing and complex and incredibly productive, 285 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: and it has some fairly serious flaws, and people point 286 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: out those flaws, and to a very very large extent, 287 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: they get fixed. But the view of history, because it's 288 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: written by the very sort of person who is in 289 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: the mainstream media today, lionizes the fixers of the problems 290 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: who deserve credit, but it makes into monsters the designers 291 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: of the giant system that was incredibly successful but just 292 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: needed some tweaks. Life got so much better. If it 293 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: was inevitable, all the good stuff would happen. 294 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 2: Right, Life got so much better for the average human 295 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: being ever since the Industrial Revolution. 296 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: But it's portrayed as a horror mostly yes, because of 297 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: its pretty notable imperfections. 298 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, but the imperfections and the imperfections they were 299 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 2: dealing with before. Right, children are dying, they were being exploited, 300 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 2: they were short life spans, et cetera, et cetera. Before 301 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: the Industrial Revolution, are strong and getty, how are you 302 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 2: feeling about Friday? 303 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: Huh? Excited? Gonna party? I'm gonna party. I don't believe 304 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna party. Probably not party. 305 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 2: Probably take care of my kids, figure out some meals, 306 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 2: do some laundry, get to bed on time. 307 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: I usually get to bed early on a Friday. See yes, 308 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: every night of the week. For some reason, at this 309 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: point in my life, I cannot say the same. So 310 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: I started my day with a early morning jabbing. Had 311 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: to have the standard of blood work done before my 312 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,959 Speaker 1: visit with my doctor, and got an appointment in all 313 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: what you need to do these days, and my wife, 314 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: who's like a week off on the cycle of going 315 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,479 Speaker 1: to see the doctor, had her blood work done at 316 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: the same place, and she said, oh, I hope you 317 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: get You know what's her name. She's the little gal. 318 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: She's so bubbly and so cheery and so wonderful. So 319 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: I got there today and there she is. Not only 320 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: is she cute and bubbly and cherry Jesus, and she 321 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: she let us know we are discussing the nice weather, 322 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: et cetera, blah blah blah, And I thought, okay, great, 323 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: Yeah that's the gal. Git. He was talking about and 324 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: then out comes from the bowels of the building, a 325 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: darker present, this big. There's no reason to go into 326 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: description A large A woman of large. 327 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: You know what's interesting years. I have no idea where 328 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: the dis direction is this story is going. I don't 329 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: know if we were about to get off on how 330 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: Christian she was or now. I don't know we're going 331 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 2: to got to hang out. 332 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: For the ride. That's that's the brilliant that's the brilliance 333 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: of my artistry. I'm hanging on. I'm hanging on. I 334 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: don't know what it's about. The old gal radiating hatred 335 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: for humanity from every pore. She was glowing with hatred 336 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: of humankind, just visible on our face. And they're book 337 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: for bottomists. 338 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 7: Yes, uh, Joe, we we refer to those large margin 339 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 7: charge So yes, well, large Marge was in charge and something. 340 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: Oh give me the sweet little girl. I'll give me 341 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: the sweet little girl. But no, no, I got the 342 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: mountain of malevolence. You don't request, I request. 343 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: Well, remember I used to have my guy Pong, my 344 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 2: non Pong, and I liked Pong, and I would I would, 345 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 2: I would show up and say I want Pong, So 346 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 2: I'll wait however long it takes until Pong comes up. 347 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, the place I go, you know, I only go 348 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: like once every six months was a year. And they're 349 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: not consistent. They're a bunch of different gals, and I 350 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: think one dude wants who worked there. But and if 351 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: I have the one that doesn't look like they've been 352 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: in prison, you could say that, can I can I 353 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: get the one who is gonna jab me with the 354 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: needle whether I need it or not? Can I not 355 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: have her? Yeah? She actually is pretty good. It was fine, 356 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: but you know, I found myself like trying to manage 357 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: the relationship with being really pleasant and upbeat without being gush, 358 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: you know, because if you're in a foul mood, and 359 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: she was clearly in a foul mood. If you're in 360 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: a foul mood, the super chip or person who's trying 361 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: to bring you out of it, that's not helping. So 362 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: I said, all right, you just got to play your 363 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: cards right. That my job. It's like, you know, you're 364 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: being robbed and you're just trying to look you can 365 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: have my wallet and all. It's just this. I'll end 366 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: it here. Look at the lay back and think England. Well, exactly. 367 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: I was getting jaded one way or the other, and 368 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: I wanted it to be, you know, a good and 369 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: turned out to be fine to her professionalism intact, more 370 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: than any other job though. I mean, because we're all human. 371 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 2: Beings and we have good days and bad days, and 372 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 2: days when we're in good moods and bad moods, and 373 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 2: that job it's got to be particularly difficult. You know, 374 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 2: you have your I don't know, in argument with your 375 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 2: husband or your teenager says something you hate when you 376 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 2: drop off at school or whatever. 377 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: And then you got to go in and be delicate, 378 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: or you can take it out on your kid. Everything 379 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: I do for that kid. No, No, I've been raising 380 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 1: that kid and I feed him and everything, and they 381 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: have no GODA. Plus you're dealing with the public for 382 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: your entire shift, and anybody who's dealt with public knows 383 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: that that alone will put your teeth on edge. But anyway, 384 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: I worked out all right. I'm just so glad it's over. Anyway. 385 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: So I've been wanting to get to this, and I 386 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: don't know why exactly, but I find the dynamics of 387 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: this so interesting, speaking of managing a one on one 388 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: relationship and that is the history of American presidents getting 389 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: played by Vladimir Putin. And this is written by Tom Rogan. 390 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: I don't know Tom, I know Joe Rogan, I know 391 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: what's our Boddy from the Washington Post, Josh Josh Rogan, Right, well, 392 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: this is yet another Rogan. 393 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 2: But you read the David Sanger version of Putin and 394 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 2: Bush and how they hung out together like friends back 395 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: in the day. 396 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was rough to read in retrospect. Well, 397 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: this Rogan leads with Donald Trump says he wants peace 398 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: in Ukraine. The problem is that mister Trump sees Vladimir 399 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: Putin for you who he wishes Putin to be. See 400 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: if you agree with his friends. He wishes him to 401 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: be a hardened but practical negotiator rather than who he is, 402 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: a former KGB lieutenant colonel who revels in the dark 403 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: art of ruthless manipulation. Mister Trump was shaped by the 404 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: Wheeler Dealer New York City real estate scene. Mister Putin 405 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: was shaped by the brutal maximalism of the KGB's Red 406 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: Banner Institute. But mister Trump is not the first US 407 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: president to take an unrealistic view of his Russian counterpart 408 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: consider his predecessor's experiences, and I was reminded of the 409 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: patheticness of this going through this. The first American president 410 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: to deal with Putin was Bill Clinton, and he chose 411 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 1: to remain largely silent on human rights concerns in Russia, 412 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: including the incredible civilian casualties during the Second Chechen War. 413 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: Mister Clinton instead focused on wooing mister Putin to join 414 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: the post Cold War democratic international order. Mister Putin did 415 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: nothing of the sort. He intimidated the Russian media, cultivating 416 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 1: an inner circle of oligarchs, and took the crush down 417 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: the road of totalitarianism all on. Mister Clinton stood idly by, hoping. 418 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: But I don't know what Clinton was supposed to do, honestly. 419 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 1: But next came George W. Bush, meeting Putin in June 420 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: oh one. Bush said he quote look the man in 421 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: the eye and found him be very straightforward and trustworthy, 422 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: adding that he gained a sense of his soul as 423 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: a human being. I have soft feelings for George W. Bush. 424 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: That is one of the most ludicrous things I've ever heard, 425 00:23:53,040 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: certainly in retrospect. That was wishful thinking of a Titanic scale. Yeah, 426 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: mister Bush had been duped by mister Putin's KGB mind games. 427 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: Mister Putin appealed to mister Bush, a born again Christian, 428 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: with a story about his mother's Orthodox cross being rescued 429 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: from a fire in her datcha. Mister Putin adopted a 430 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: similar tactic with mister Trump's chief foreign affairs negotiator, Steve Whitcoff, 431 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: telling mister Whitcroft that he had prayed for mister Trump 432 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: when he learned of the assassination attempt against him in July. 433 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: Putin has never prayed for anything in his life. No, 434 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: the fact that. 435 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 2: Some people, including many of our listeners, believe Putin's some 436 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 2: sort of protector of Christianity, Good Lord. 437 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: One more example, and then you know the main point, 438 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: which which Jack is certainly hinting at. Then there was 439 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: Barack Obama. Soon after taking office in on and I, 440 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: and Obama essentially excused Russia's invasion of Georgia five months 441 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: prior publicly seeking a reset in relations. At July, Obama 442 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: travel Moscow to meet with Putin. Obama advisor Michael mcfollo's McFall, 443 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: who served as ambassador to Russia for a number of years, 444 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: recounts in his twenty eighteen book How Putin quickly asserted 445 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: dominance over the American President. Putin quote Putin spoke uninterrupted 446 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: for nearly the entire time schedule for the meeting documenting 447 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: the injustices of the Bush administration. This was a guy, 448 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: this is the Bush administration, that could see into his soul. 449 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: This was a guy with a chip on his shoulder. 450 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: Obama listened patiently, maybe too patiently. It was my assignment 451 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: to read out this meeting to our press court later 452 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: that day. I couldn't tell them that Obama merely listened 453 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: the entire time. Then they go into the history of 454 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: the appeasement of Obama. I think, what maybe our presidents 455 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: under estimate, one after the other after the other, maybe 456 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: for reasons of their own egos, is that they're up 457 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: against a master, a master manipulator. Not just a hard 458 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: ass negotiator and a cutthroat, but a guy whose gift 459 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: in not coming off as a cutthroat, in anticipating what 460 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: you want to hear and giving it to you. 461 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 2: Maybe the first time, the first president, that's fine, you 462 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 2: can get away with that, But since then, I don't 463 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 2: see how you get manipulated by the guy. 464 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: It seems obvious what he is. 465 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: He's a ruthless he will he would murder your child 466 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 2: if it benefited him. 467 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: He's that yeah. Yeah, Or even if he thought there 468 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: was one and four chance it would benefit him, Yeah, 469 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: your child would be dead. Trump clearly is prone to 470 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: being swayed by flattery. I mean, that's just beyond denial 471 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: at this point. And it was. I've been watching special 472 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: report with Brett Paar, especially this week, in which he's 473 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: talked to various leaders in the countries that Trump's visited 474 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: in the Middle East, in which he's done some really 475 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: really interesting diplomas that might be like crazy beneficial for 476 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: the next fifty years. There's some stuff that's bothered me, 477 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: but I think a lot of it is really really 478 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: impressive what Trump's been doing. But it's been unbelievable how 479 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: every figure Brett Baar interviews goes way over above and 480 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: beyond the call of duty in praising Trump, Like it's 481 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: almost like they've got a timer going off every fourth 482 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: sentence to make sure they throw in some lavish praise 483 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: for Trump. And soon. 484 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, on that front, I'm concerned. Trump said earlier today, 485 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 2: he said it's time. It's time Putin and I meet. 486 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 2: We got to make that happen. And I'm really concerned 487 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 2: about how that meeting goes. That Trump might just lavish 488 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 2: praise on Putin to his face and bad They both 489 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 2: sit there in bad mouth Selensky. 490 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: And I don't know what we do with that. That 491 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: would be tough to take. Yeah, in fact, I almost 492 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: predict that's what's going to happen. But Putin will, like 493 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: have a ten million dollar documentary of Joe Biden's deceit 494 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: and dementia produced and show it to Trump. He will 495 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: build a shrine to Malania's beauty. He'll cut off his 496 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: own thumb. Maybe, if he needs to to convince Trump. 497 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: They're on the same page, and they're the kind of 498 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: guys who get it. Other people don't get it like 499 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: we do, but we sure do. 500 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 2: Maybe he can get some of those hair swinging dancers 501 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 2: that they had in Abu Dhabi yesterday. Trump seemed to 502 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 2: like those the girls that swung their hair. I gotta 503 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: get the hair swinging dancer video. I missed that somehow something. Yeah, 504 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 2: but we'll we'll have to see. 505 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: I don't get it either, how one president after another 506 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: after another makes the same set of mistakes. Well, even 507 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: doesn't realize they're dealing with an alligator. They're dealing with 508 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: a reptile. 509 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: You don't need to meet with the CIA and have 510 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 2: them you read the profile that they've dug up and 511 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 2: put together for you. 512 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: How about the fact that he. 513 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: Burned all those people in that apartment building so he 514 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: could blame the Chechens and start a war. 515 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's who does that. Yeah, that's the 516 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: kind of guy you're dealing with. 517 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: He would burn a whole bunch of families of the 518 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 2: Russians so he could blame it on the Chechens and 519 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 2: start a war because he wanted to. 520 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, that's straight out of his philosophy and Hitler's 521 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: and others. No, dang, Michael, this is not a gratuitous 522 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: Hitler mentioned. This is a specific sighting of very different exactly. 523 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: But the great Man view of history is, if you 524 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: are not willing to sacrifice tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, 525 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: maybe millions of lives, you will not be one of 526 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: the great men of history. If you blanche at sacrificing 527 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: all those lives, you don't deserve the gig you're in 528 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: the wrong job. Chum. That's what Vladimir Putin would say. 529 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: Oh that going in. Man, if they meet, that is 530 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: gonna be some high steaks drama. I'll tell you that. Wow, 531 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: we'll finish strong. Next, here's a headline. I think you 532 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: brought us Katie the other day. And I finally dug 533 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: into the story. The US engineers found rogue communication devices 534 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: and Chinese solar panels. 535 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, which I said, someone who has solar I'm a 536 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 7: little concerned. 537 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got to admit I thought, okay, heck, devices 538 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: in solar panels. I don't spend a lot of time 539 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: like spilling national secrets on my roof or anything. So 540 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: what's the significance of this? Because I'm a bit of 541 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: a dim wit. But so these Chinese made solar power 542 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: inverters and batteries had these undocumented communication channels that could allow, 543 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: according to a source Reuter's talk to the rogue components 544 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: provide additional undocumented communication channels. They could allow firewalls to 545 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: be circumvented remotely, with potentially catastrophic consequences. The story illustrates 546 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: the security issue that's haunted analysts since the dawn of 547 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: the Internet of things, the sudden craze for adding Internet 548 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: connectivity to all manner of devices, from household appliances to 549 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: industrial machinery. I was thinking about that the other day. 550 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 7: So I have a fountain in my backyard that is 551 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 7: connected to an app where I can control the schedule 552 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 7: that it runs. But I was sitting there going, dude, 553 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 7: even my fountain runs through the Internet. 554 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that is the thing. I've resisted this. Very 555 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: early on in the Internet of Things era, I ran 556 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: into an article that explained how, you know, the Mark 557 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,719 Speaker 1: Zuckerberg's of the world were exploiting the fact that they 558 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: are now in your thermostat, in your ring, doorbell or whatever. Yeah, 559 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: and I was so off put by that. I haven't 560 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: really dug into it. But so in the case of 561 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: these vicious Chinese power and vergers, the devices were designed 562 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: to connect solar panel rays and windmills to power grids, 563 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: and they have Internet capability, mostly allegedly, so their performance 564 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: can be monitored and their software can be updated easily. 565 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: But these these people set up firewalls, or these companies 566 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: set up firewalls and their technology teams to prevent the 567 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: devices from sending on authorized signals, and they physically inspect 568 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: equipment from China to look for bugs, and they find 569 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: them with shocking regularity. This is so obviously an effort 570 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: by the Chinese to get into our power grids and 571 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: our systems and our circuits, both individual homes and in 572 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: mass areas so they can like simultaneously send signals that 573 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: then f up the grids. That's what the nastiness is 574 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: going to look like. Everything shuts down. That's what we need. 575 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: On a Friday way, this is well, we are so 576 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: asleep anyway. Let's get a final thought from everybody on 577 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: the crew to wrap things up for the day, beginning 578 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: with our technical director Michael Angelow. Michael final thought. This 579 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: means I can now hack into my neighbor's thermostat and 580 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: make it ninety degrees in their house just because I 581 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: don't like him or something. Oh good call then make 582 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: it fifty. 583 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 5: Uh. 584 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: Jack has had to dash off to an appointment Katie 585 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: Green or esteemed to Newswoman. 586 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 7: As a final thought, Katie, I have sneezed twenty three 587 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 7: times during the course of the show. 588 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: I just want to let you guys know. Yeah, wow, 589 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: allergies coast to coast are are terrible. Is it climate 590 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: change and if so, what the hell are you gonna 591 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: do about it? Anyway? Get some tissues? Have you taste? 592 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 2: Hey, you've stolen my dreams, You've made me sneeze a lot. 593 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: Anyway. My final thought is heavy, great weekend. I'll be 594 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: on the golf course if you need me. So many 595 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: people to thank, so little time. Armstrong and Getty wrapping 596 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: up another grueling four hour workday. We have many pleasures, 597 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: many pleasures awaiting you at Armstrong and Getty dot com, 598 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: including the swag store. Pick up an ang T shirt 599 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: for your favorite AMG fan. 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