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Speaker 2: All these years, we've been building, building and building. Now

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Speaker 2: opportunity do come my way. That's when the magic happens.

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Speaker 3: Going them to the Endeling household was.

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Speaker 4: Crazy, depression, anxiety, those are things I had.

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Speaker 1: I had hater before.

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Speaker 3: I've just gotten more than that. Legalizing sports gamblin might

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Speaker 3: as well to legalize cookin and crystal mouth. So many

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Speaker 3: people wanted sunny dead. Question is who got to first?

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Speaker 5: This is all work point, just the part I don't see.

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Speaker 1: We help people.

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Speaker 6: Understand football, all right, man.

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Speaker 1: So ship Normally we shooting Santa Monica or in New York.

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Speaker 1: But today we made a special road trip to go

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Speaker 1: see the one and only, the one and only. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean we had to drive an hour and a

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Speaker 1: half in traffic to see cold It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 5: We had to drive backwards. I was gonna get some

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Speaker 5: get this house Blacks for these damn shoes. One way enough,

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Speaker 5: that's the first thing you're gonna do.

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Speaker 7: Cod w How you doing? Look man, I'm looking for

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Speaker 7: It's the shoes.

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Speaker 3: Called the Undefeated Pack.

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Speaker 7: We gotta be fresh on the court now.

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Speaker 1: But I'm excited, you know what I mean. Like some

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Speaker 1: said that he's someone that from the jump, you know

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Speaker 1: him coming to LA when I was in U c

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Speaker 1: l A. You gotta play with the McDonald's game. We

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Speaker 1: kind of saw the early at the beginning, and it

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Speaker 1: kind of just seen him can continued to evolve and

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Speaker 1: continue to be at one point, you know, the greatest

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Speaker 1: player in a in the game and then one of

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Speaker 1: the all time greats.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: So I think to have a chance to sit down

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Speaker 1: he's got going on post career now, I think it's

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Speaker 1: just gonna be dope.

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Speaker 5: Now. Only doing somebody who I you know, probably my

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Speaker 5: favorite player of my time, right but uh, somebody that

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Speaker 5: I grew up with, you know, like I said, maybe

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Speaker 5: able to play McDonald's game with. But last time I

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Speaker 5: my son Okay on his LA on his uh bell

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Speaker 5: weell tour and I never got a chance to tell

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Speaker 5: him thank you. So it's a been a great time

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Speaker 5: to you know, to pick his brain see what he

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Speaker 5: got going on, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 7: And uh, you know rap with bean Man.

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Speaker 1: That I think everyone thinks that he and I are

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Speaker 1: enemies or don't fuck with each other cause that shit

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Speaker 1: that happened in Orlando with the ball face. But that's

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Speaker 1: what kind of really he ain't liked it. Nah, That's

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Speaker 1: what really brought us together, you know, That's what n

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Speaker 1: You know, he after that season, he hit me up like, Yo,

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Speaker 1: you wanna be a Laker? I said, hell yeah, and

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Speaker 1: he said, anyone crazy enough to fuck with me is

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Speaker 7: Know, Kobe doesn't like you.

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Speaker 1: You guys, I'm just like, it's it's not even like

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you when you're talking about is

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Speaker 1: what really brought us closer in me and made us

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: So we had battles, but then you know it's teammates.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: We had some some crazy off the court fun ship.

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Speaker 5: You know what I remember, thog I was this is

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Speaker 5: the first time I ever seen Kobe out. I was

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Speaker 5: in Milwaukee. We played job. Remember I was suspended. We

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Speaker 5: I'm going I'm bringing called like man, Kobe ain't going.

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Speaker 3: I was like, Bro, I'm telling you.

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Speaker 7: And I walked in the club and Cole was in there.

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Speaker 5: And I couldn't believe it. Bro, Like, Bro, I'm telling

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Speaker 5: you now, he going out. Bro, I'm telling you coming

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Speaker 1: Because I was in my room, you know, I was

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Speaker 1: We went in all cities. We wentever we went to Milwaukee.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you called me, Bro, tells me going out, Man,

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: We bond the instantly, man, Like I said, on the

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 1: Were going to all these black tie events and you

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Speaker 6: With him, and once you open that door for me.

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Speaker 7: Well, yeah, you ain't gotta you ain't gotta you gottah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm walk myself, ma'ma I'm gonna do my thing.

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Speaker 1: So you know, that's kind of like the two thousand

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Speaker 1: when I was separated at the time, the twenty ten times,

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Speaker 1: that was the beginning of something beautiful. Candifory love Man,

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Speaker 1: you already know a Laker, Yeah, and with with the

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Speaker 1: one of the arguably one of the greatest Lakers.

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Speaker 3: Yep of all time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the teammate on the road, just his folks. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't deter he'll go out and have a good time.

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Speaker 1: It's not like he's gonna go out all that can

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Speaker 1: go out, you know what I mean, The next morning,

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Speaker 1: he's up early and like the schedules you know, hadn't changed.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's someone that you know, insisted on work.

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Speaker 7: They have a glass of wine every now and then.

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Speaker 6: The Veno, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But he'll get out there and still do his early

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Speaker 1: he was a He was a beast, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. Like he enjoyed hisself, but at the same time,

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Speaker 1: You know, you want to go out, you want to

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Speaker 1: go out fun, go do that, but don't let that

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he could have handled seeing what

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Speaker 3: But he was in the streets.

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Speaker 5: Every If we was doing that and winning, he would

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Speaker 5: have respected us because that's all.

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Speaker 1: He was about it. Right at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: It's about doing your job for.

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Speaker 7: What you do off the court. As long as we winning,

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Speaker 7: let's go all the smoke.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to this obviously. I think our goal

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Speaker 1: is to have a candid conversation and get some shit

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Speaker 1: out of him that he doesn't normally talk about.

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Speaker 5: This motherfucker, I'm actually enjoyed playing the gainst and enjoy watching.

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Speaker 3: So I'm actually a fan of this man.

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Speaker 1: You can ask him about who deserve MVP in the

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Speaker 1: McDonald's game.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I have to get that answer.

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Speaker 1: If he stamps you, you're good, because I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I believe it until he because I didn't watch

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Speaker 1: the game. So if he stamps you.

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Speaker 5: If Kobe stamps that, I should have won MVP in

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Speaker 5: the McDonald's nineties All American Game, somebody needs to send

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Speaker 5: me a trophy.

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Speaker 1: Y'all heard that. You better said that shit.

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Speaker 5: I'm excited though. It's gonna be one for the books.

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Speaker 5: All the motherfucker Smoke that.

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Speaker 3: A break show.

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Speaker 1: Let go Welcome Back All the Smoke episode eleven ringing

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: My god, eleven, don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to say that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know Mexico.

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Speaker 1: I got it, I got I gotta.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you, man, Thank you for your time. We've

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Speaker 1: been looking forward to this man. The fans have been asking,

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Speaker 1: you need to get Kobe, you need to get COVID.

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Speaker 1: So we finally got cold man. All right, we appreciate you, man,

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Speaker 1: got it.

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Speaker 3: So let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: Man, what is the difference between Kobe Bryant post career

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Speaker 1: and the Mamba, the killer we saw on the court.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think it's just a lot of the mentality

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Speaker 4: is still the same. Industry just changes, right, So the

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Speaker 4: same focused, same attention to detail. There's even more so

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Speaker 4: now because you know, when you play, you gotta take

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Speaker 4: time off, gotta let your body heal, you gotta do

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Speaker 4: certain things. You know, in business and in creativity, there

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Speaker 4: So you know, the similarities are are there. It's the focus,

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Speaker 4: attention to detail, and you try to surround yourself people

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Speaker 4: that are just as monogual as you are about their

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Speaker 4: and the differences are I don't have to put my

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Speaker 1: True. True. Some of the things I've seen post career

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Speaker 1: that I love. Or obviously you know, you coaching your

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Speaker 1: to detail with those.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, coaching the kids it's fun. Just kind of

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Speaker 4: she made a local All Star team, and that's where

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Speaker 4: we met the rest of the girls that are now

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Speaker 4: And then the novel writing really started just with the kids.

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Speaker 4: The kids can't keep reading stories that have no relation

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Speaker 4: you know, a diversity, like a color standpoint, not only

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Speaker 4: just that, but from the fact that they're athletes and

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Speaker 4: there's no story that kind of speaks to athletes. It's

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Speaker 4: all like princesses and sleep and Prince wakes you up

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Speaker 4: with the kiss. Not trying to read my daughters that

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Speaker 4: you know, you know, we enjoy that stuff, but it's

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Speaker 4: not you know, it's not reality. You're not going to

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Speaker 4: sleep and then wake up years later later and be successful.

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Speaker 3: You know, you gotta work, you gotta work.

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Speaker 4: So I wanted to create stories that I could read

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Speaker 4: to them athletes that go through that type of Sime.

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Speaker 1: Tell me what it's like coaching your daughter, you know,

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Speaker 1: because I coach my boys will be at the same

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Speaker 1: tournament coming up this weekend. What is it like for

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Speaker 4: It's fun because I get a chance to sit and

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Speaker 1: What was our pivotal moment growing up where you developed

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 4: It was fun getting to know everybody you know, and

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Speaker 3: Right? No, MVP?

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Speaker 5: I should have won MVP. MVP then, see I'm glad

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Speaker 3: Crazy starting fire. That's great. I thought you did. No

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Speaker 3: He said that that's all I wanted. He wanted.

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Speaker 3: I did, He ain't wanted. Damn. It was dope, though.

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Speaker 5: Because our team, though you gotta let like me you Jamaine.

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Speaker 1: Made a long career out of it, all of us, like.

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Speaker 4: You know what's funny all all of it? Does you

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Speaker 3: Take five a lot. I know me and Matt and

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Speaker 5: Like I've been misunderstood and not honestly for like I

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Speaker 3: I think it's that, man.

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Speaker 4: I think it's the it's the selfishness or you know, arrogant,

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Speaker 6: You have to be.

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Speaker 3: You have to you have to be, you have to be.

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Speaker 3: But I'm doing school.

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Speaker 4: Drop offs and pickups and you know, giving my babies

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Speaker 4: Like that sort of stuff. But it's all good. It

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Speaker 5: Have you have you have you ever shot an airball

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 5: So, how do you do you feel that you should

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Speaker 3: I'm sure it happens.

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Speaker 4: You have it.

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Speaker 3: I never have it. I've never been top ten.

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Speaker 5: Just no people stars, all stars perier, because multiple all

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've I can only speak in personal experience, man,

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00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:29,960
Speaker 4: I haven't. I've never shot an airball from the free

443
00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,880
Speaker 4: throw line. And okay you haven't.

444
00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,400
Speaker 5: Okay, no, no, not even with my left not even

445
00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:35,960
Speaker 5: my left hand.

446
00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,760
Speaker 3: Right, all right?

447
00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,920
Speaker 1: This year will be when juvene rolls around twenty years

448
00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,320
Speaker 1: since you won your first title but immediately comes to

449
00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,000
Speaker 1: your mind, crazy right, damn? Really yeah?

450
00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,040
Speaker 3: Long time? Whoa? Oh man?

451
00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:56,960
Speaker 4: Uh shit, No, I remember the just us, you know,

452
00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,600
Speaker 4: being really excited that we got through Portland.

453
00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,720
Speaker 1: There were times what we had we had Bonzie on Hue.

454
00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:05,560
Speaker 1: He was telling us about that series.

455
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:07,360
Speaker 3: It was a nightmare.

456
00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,560
Speaker 4: It was a nightmare matchup for me, man, because he

457
00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,480
Speaker 4: was I was really scrawny in like one twenty soaking wet,

458
00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,120
Speaker 4: and he was just trying to beat this ship out

459
00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:18,120
Speaker 4: of me in the post and uh him Stacy Augman.

460
00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,400
Speaker 4: They really helped me develop my post defensive presence because

461
00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,280
Speaker 4: that was a weakness. I had to develop that quite

462
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,560
Speaker 4: a bit. But I remember just going into the Indiana series,

463
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,159
Speaker 4: we were just ready, We're confident, we knew how we

464
00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,200
Speaker 4: wanted to execute, we knew what we needed to do,

465
00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:31,680
Speaker 4: and we just try to take him out their sets

466
00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,919
Speaker 4: as much as possible. Man, and then you know, Jalen

467
00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,399
Speaker 4: split his foot, under mine and cast A series go

468
00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,399
Speaker 4: a little longer than it should have, but ultimately we

469
00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:39,880
Speaker 4: got it done.

470
00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,679
Speaker 1: Any pregame rituals or superstitions that you had throughout.

471
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,760
Speaker 3: You know, I don't have nothing. Just go out there.

472
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,040
Speaker 3: I go out and hoop, man like it.

473
00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,120
Speaker 4: Like sometimes you know, like on game day, if I'm tired,

474
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:53,760
Speaker 4: I go to sleep.

475
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,160
Speaker 3: From that I won't and you never walk around.

476
00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,800
Speaker 1: I walk around, So a pre game that wasn't essential

477
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:01,480
Speaker 1: for you.

478
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,120
Speaker 3: Nah, Like if I was tired, I'd go to sleep.

479
00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,119
Speaker 3: I wasn't. I just wouldn't. You know.

480
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 4: Sometimes I'd sleep like for fifteen minutes on the training

481
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:08,879
Speaker 4: table before a.

482
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,160
Speaker 1: Game, and that's all you need, just to reload.

483
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because I'm already in shape, I don't need

484
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 4: to sleep to be in shape ready to go. I

485
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 4: could run all day already. My stamina is already where

486
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 4: it should be. So like whether or not I'm sleepy

487
00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,240
Speaker 4: or not, like being sleepy and then being fatigued or

488
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 4: two different things. I can play the game and be

489
00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,680
Speaker 4: sleepy and not be fatigued.

490
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:26,120
Speaker 3: It's fine.

491
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,320
Speaker 5: Interesting lowest moment, Like we know, we had a couple

492
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,159
Speaker 5: of lowest low moments in our career where you know,

493
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 5: the things we control are it was our fault. What

494
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 5: was a low moment in your career? I don't really

495
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,960
Speaker 5: say you haven't nothing. It was a couple of them. Well,

496
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 5: losing to the Celtics and or eight was tough.

497
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,200
Speaker 4: But before that, like at the beginning of the journey,

498
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,919
Speaker 4: was not playing so coming in as a rookie and saying, man,

499
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,360
Speaker 4: if I knew the shit was gonna be like this,

500
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,879
Speaker 4: I would have went to school interest right, because I

501
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 4: felt like my coach Del Harris at the time was

502
00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,159
Speaker 4: trying to make sure he did not show favoritism to

503
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 4: the young kid, and as a result, he swung completely

504
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 4: the opposite direction and doing things that weren't really fair

505
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 4: and I mean not playing you know, So like my

506
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 4: first two three years were brutal.

507
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 3: People don't know that. People don't people don't know that,

508
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 3: people don't know you went through that your first three years. No,

509
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 3: it was tough.

510
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,719
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I sit around and watch all

511
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 4: my peers going out there playing thirty five thirty seven minutes,

512
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 4: you know, Ai ray Allen. They're all doing their thing.

513
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 4: Shreef up, do right. Everybody's doing their thing, and I'm

514
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 4: sitting here glued to the bench, getting really really pissed

515
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 4: off and ticked off, thinking I should was just going

516
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 4: to college. I mean that was the hardest part.

517
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was finally what was that breakthrough when it

518
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,880
Speaker 1: was okay that your number was called? Did someone get hurt?

519
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,159
Speaker 1: He finally trust to me?

520
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 3: What was it doing the lockout season?

521
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 4: When the season started, Rick Fox had playing off fast

522
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 4: shot at some both feet, but he wanted to play

523
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 4: somebody else in front of me, and that person got hurt,

524
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 4: and so then he had no choice but to start me,

525
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 4: but start me at small forward. And so this is

526
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 4: when like small forwards was big small forward, yes, right hand,

527
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,679
Speaker 4: this is pit. This is like so I started the

528
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 4: first whatever of ten games at small four. I think

529
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 4: I started like like seven straight double doubles or something

530
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 4: like that, and then I've been in.

531
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 3: The start lineup every since, no looking back. But I don't.

532
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,199
Speaker 4: I mean, I might have who the hell knows how

533
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 4: long when I came off the bench for injury.

534
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 3: So crazy.

535
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 1: It's really really rough, especially too. Like I said, I see,

536
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 1: I got a different side because I went to UCLA

537
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: almost parallel when you came to LA. So I would

538
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,479
Speaker 1: see you on campus. I would see you working out

539
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 1: in the gym, and I would know, like, damn this motherfuckers,

540
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 1: why is he not playing? You know what I mean.

541
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: I looked at it from like a point of view,

542
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 1: like I see this dude work out like people don't play,

543
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: like he looks like Michael Jordan out there, Like I

544
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: would see he would come in after our Ucla price.

545
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 1: I remember one time you had broke your right hand

546
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 1: and you came up to UCLA and did a whole

547
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: workout left handed, like you were a left handed player,

548
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: and I was just like, what hole fucking Then the

549
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: next season he came out shooting left handed shots, and

550
00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: people like, oh my god, he's this. I was like, No,

551
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 1: he work that ship his whole time. He had this

552
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: hand in the cast. If you watch all that from you,

553
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 1: it was just mad, I'm not playing right.

554
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 4: It's like you're sitting down, you're not playing, and you're

555
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 4: watching everybody else kill the league when you know you

556
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 4: should be doing that. It still pisses me off to

557
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 4: this day because like, ultimately, you know, what numbers would

558
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 4: you have put up on right, because everybody wants to

559
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,479
Speaker 4: go to that Let's go to career. Number's go to career. Somebodyish,

560
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 4: somebody would have told me that back then. You know

561
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So you know those three years of

562
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 4: not playing and sitting on the bench and just watching frustrating.

563
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: To what personal growth did you go through? From three

564
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: people Shack he's gone until you won your next title

565
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: with with Power and the.

566
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 4: Crew, I understand how to connect the team more. I

567
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 4: didn't have to with shock A. Shaq was the guy

568
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 4: that connected everybody and you know, still drove a hard bargain,

569
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 4: but he was the jovial one and connected everybody. And

570
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 4: so I figure out how to do that do that

571
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 4: in my own way, you know, with my sarcasm and

572
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 4: you know, dry humor or whatever the case may be,

573
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 4: and being authentic with guys, but still being able to

574
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 4: build that relationship and understand and this is what it's about.

575
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 4: And as a result, we wounded up having the closest team.

576
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 4: That was the closest team I've ever played on. Man,

577
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,199
Speaker 4: it was, but that was the biggest change. What was

578
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 4: Matt like as a teammate? You know, I played with

579
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 4: him in Golden State as my brother. We've been through

580
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff on and off the quarte, our

581
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 4: mom's best friend. I was with him during a tough

582
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 4: time when he lost his mom.

583
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 5: So our relationship is deeper than basketball. But what was

584
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 5: he like as a teammate? Exactly what I thought he

585
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 5: was gonna be.

586
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 4: Feisty, yeah, tough, competitive, uh, and not afraid of big moments.

587
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 4: You know, That's why I respected the most guys that

588
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 4: aren't afraid. You gotta have some co honess and you're

589
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 4: playing with me. Ain't got no co honess? Man, I ain't.

590
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 4: I ain't.

591
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: That kind of leads me to the next thing, because

592
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 1: I think people think there's such a disconnect between you

593
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: all because of this shit in Orlando.

594
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 3: People really think that I wanted him because of what happened.

595
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: He's like everybody says, like anyone crazy enough to fuck

596
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: with me, is crazy enough to play with me, you

597
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it was funny though, because

598
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: that was just a back and forth game, and that

599
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 1: kind of just spoke to both of our competitiveness. You know,

600
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: the year before, you guys had beat Orlando, so we

601
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 1: come back the next year thinking, Okay, we're gonna play

602
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 1: the Lakers again. We're getting towards the end of the season.

603
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 1: It's a back and forth game. And I tell people

604
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 1: when I played you, like I just look forward to

605
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: it because I mean, everyone knows how fucking good you are,

606
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 1: but you mentally attack people too. You do your little code.

607
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 3: Shit where your elbow win and grabbing, knocking and win.

608
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: L with me right here, and what you're talking about

609
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: everything out of me everything, I kind of dunked it.

610
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 3: Ell with me.

611
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm just like what the fuck? And I'm the one

612
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: getting I'm the one to get in teased. So it

613
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: just came to overhead. But like, man, I might have

614
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: to fight this dude, you know what I mean, Like,

615
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: fuck basketball, fuck everything. So the play was crazy because

616
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 1: I literally just faked the ball and it wasn't like

617
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: thought of or anything, and you and I didn't realize

618
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 1: how close it came to your face. Obviously you didn't move.

619
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: But then when I I feel like that ship was

620
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: I mean, like you just to that ship. This motherfucker

621
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 1: might have been the only person on the planet like

622
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: you flinched just off some regular ship. Like I put

623
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,959
Speaker 1: a whole basketball in his face after we had really

624
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: been going through and he.

625
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 3: Just I was.

626
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 5: I was telling a story about we was in San Antonio.

627
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 5: This my second time. I turned around shoot jump and

628
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 5: you hit my whole arm.

629
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 3: The referees right there don't call that. You take the ball.

630
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 5: Haul the court right, So you know me, I'm always

631
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 5: arguing with the ref I'm in the full argument with

632
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 5: the ref but I'm guarding you at the same time.

633
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: And so you start telling me you better pay attention, motherfucker,

634
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 3: you better paying attention. So I'm arguing with the reff

635
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 3: trying to listen to you. You shoot the motherfucker from

636
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,479
Speaker 3: the logo Nick give me a look. Then the referee

637
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 3: give me the same look, like I'm like, so, look,

638
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 3: this has made the worse. Then pops me right out.

639
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 3: Of course a ship you're going for sixty nine. I

640
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 3: can't get my get back, and man, I just try

641
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 3: to fuck with y'all as much as possible.

642
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 4: I knew if you know, like you know, y'all coaches

643
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 4: pop gun, it's crazy awesome, but they're crazy yeah and

644
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 4: a little you know yeah, yeah, So I just tried

645
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 4: to do what I could to take you guys out

646
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 4: of the game, you know, you know, even if it

647
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 4: met like your replacement, Yes, I was coming. If you

648
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 4: guys did a better job guarding me, yeah, then I'd

649
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 4: be comfortable with that.

650
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 3: Just yeah, yeah, let them come in and guard me.

651
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 3: They do a much better job than these two guys

652
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 3: and somebody else's. And then you wait and wait, and

653
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 3: then you roast them. Yeah, you guys over there like

654
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 3: the am I doing over here. That's how it happens

655
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 3: a lot of long.

656
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: But my whole thing with you was, you know, to me,

657
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: you never a good defense, never gonna stop great office.

658
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: I just wanted to make you work, you know what

659
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: I mean. So you know with me there was there

660
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: was gonna be hard files. It's gonna be no easy layups.

661
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: If you shot fake me too many times, I'm just

662
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: gonna find you. I'm just gonna fail you hard, you

663
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And that's what I explained to people, like,

664
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: great offense is always.

665
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 3: Going to be great defense.

666
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: You just want to make them work for everything. So

667
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: you scored thirty points, I wanted you to take thirty shots,

668
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: you know that kind of thing.

669
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Speaker 3: So that was going back and forth and threes and

670
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Speaker 3: go to states in LA. I made the first like

671
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 3: are you serious? Half?

672
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: Have you ever sat down and had like a real

673
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Speaker 1: off the camera conbo with m.

674
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Speaker 3: J Oh, yeah, what is that like looking in the mirror. No,

675
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 3: it's fun. I mean it's fun. No, we're really different.

676
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 3: It's crazy, Like he'll he'll compete to you anything, to you,

677
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 3: y'all different, I guess. I mean like he'll compete with

678
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 3: any and everything. I won't. I only compete with things

679
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 3: that I really am good at. Like, I'm not just

680
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 3: gonna compete on something you don't know. Yeah, I'm not

681
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 3: going to do that. Everything.

682
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 4: You know, he'll uh, you know, he'll talk basketball all

683
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 4: day long and not stopping comp What would have happened

684
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Speaker 4: if you know my ninety one against your O three

685
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 4: and you know, like what this is that?

686
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: What would happened in your opinion?

687
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: Come on, you can't ask him that, man, I want

688
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: to know what been complete. Dominance would be a seven

689
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: game series.

690
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 4: With what he's out of the conversation with was well,

691
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 4: I would have destroyed you. You know, listen, I just

692
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 4: I just said, listen, just remember who you're talking to.

693
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 4: You just started laughing. It was like, I'm just messing

694
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 4: with you. I'm just messing with you. And then we

695
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 4: just kind of moved on. Dope, But it had been

696
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 4: it had been fun.

697
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 3: That's dope, man.

698
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 5: Just to even know that y'all had that conversation is dope.

699
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

700
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: How bad? I remember playing with you. Your whole thing

701
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: is that you said I want to sit at the

702
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: table with MJ, meaning you wanted that six ring. What

703
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: did it mean not to be able to get that? Oh?

704
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 3: It pissed me off, you know, but things are what

705
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Speaker 3: they are.

706
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 7: You know.

707
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 4: You gotta you you push for a goal, and my

708
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 4: original goal was to try to win Eat eight. And

709
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 4: you push for it, and you push for and you

710
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 4: push for and you do the best you can. But

711
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, you can be comfortable

712
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 4: with the results and where they landed and where they

713
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,239
Speaker 4: ended up, and so you know, that's the most important thing.

714
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 4: That's why I can be really, really comfortable with the

715
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 4: career that I've had because you know, I worked as

716
00:29:59,040 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 4: hard as you possibly could.

717
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 3: That's it.

718
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: You and Shack were able to win three together. Obviously

719
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: there's been back and forth of you know what he

720
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: was like, which you were like whatever, But if you

721
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: guys were on the same page connected mentally, how many

722
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: do you realistic feel like you could have won?

723
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 3: The probably?

724
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 4: I mean San Antonio was tough. They were tough, and

725
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 4: so like when the playoffs came around. Wasn't like Shaq

726
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 4: and I weren't on the same page when the playoffs

727
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 4: came around. We always went on the same page. We

728
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,959
Speaker 4: just got beat, you know what I'm saying. So like

729
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 4: we've you know, the bigger question would should be how

730
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 4: many would we have won.

731
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: If the Spurs weren't the Spurs, because.

732
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Speaker 5: You probably would have ran it decade. He was, he

733
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,239
Speaker 5: was killing he was by someth that year.

734
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 4: He was lights out, he lights out right, and so

735
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 4: the talent, the coaching, everything in San Antonio was kind

736
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 4: of a perfect storm. And so if they weren't in

737
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 4: the picture, we probably would have run ten in a row.

738
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 4: And they probably say.

739
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,719
Speaker 3: The same thing about us that's crazy.

740
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Speaker 5: You got a lot of young players that's reaching out

741
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 5: to you. Now you know your advice to them, like,

742
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 5: like what you tell them, like how does that feel?

743
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 3: Depends what they ask me.

744
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 4: Like a lot of them will come and ask about

745
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 4: their game and things that they should do and things

746
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 4: like that, and I say, listen, you gotta you know

747
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 4: the answer to that. I don't know, Like, you know

748
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 4: what makes you uncomfortable when you play? I mean, I

749
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 4: think that's the biggest thing for kids nowadays, is that

750
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 4: they want to rely on coaches too much and work

751
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 4: out guys, you know, which is fine to have them

752
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 4: help you work out, but you have to tell them

753
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 4: what you need.

754
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: Right.

755
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 4: You have to be able to say, Okay, I feel

756
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 4: uncomfortable with this, and if you don't know, then you're

757
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 4: not as prepared as you should be.

758
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 3: Right.

759
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 4: You need to know what your strengths and weaknesses are first,

760
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 4: and then you know, I can tell you some of

761
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 4: the things, some of the rhythmic things, or some of

762
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 4: the exercises of how much repetition you need to be

763
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 4: doing on certain things.

764
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 3: But you got to know your game.

765
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: Where did that come from? Though? Because you said, I mean,

766
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: obviously one of the greats, you know, is where you rank.

767
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: But I really see, you know, with your academy out

768
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: there in thousand others, like you open up your doors

769
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: and your arms for players to come in. And where

770
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: did that come from? That that giving back one from

771
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: really well.

772
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: The guys that came before did the same thing for me.

773
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 3: You know.

774
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 4: I've had really end up conversations with Jay West and

775
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 4: talking about thinks, same thing with MJ. I've had great mentors,

776
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 4: Elijah One. I've had guys all time greats, Bill Russell,

777
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 4: and we talked a lot about how to win championships,

778
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 4: how to lead, and so I felt like it's my

779
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 4: job to try to pass that information onto the next

780
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 4: generation and then see the game develop and see it.

781
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 3: Grow, you know what I mean.

782
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 4: It's amazing to look back and see what some of

783
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 4: these athletes are doing now right whether it's the generation

784
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 4: of James Harden, Luka, Doncics now and some of the players, like,

785
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 4: it's fun to sit back and watch the game grow.

786
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 4: And that's why I do it.

787
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: Who are some of the younger players or players in

788
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: the league right now that you do follow when you

789
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: get a chance to watch, you know what's.

790
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: Funny, I wind up.

791
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 4: So before Gigi got into basketball, I hardly watched it.

792
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 4: But now she's in the basketball we watched on she wants.

793
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: To watch it.

794
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 3: It's on every night.

795
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: I love it.

796
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 3: It's on every night, and I mean every game.

797
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 4: I mean she she asked me to get the lead

798
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 4: pass on her phone and everything. She watches everything, so

799
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 4: you know, we'll watch She likes. She likes watching Trey

800
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 4: Young a lot. She watches Luca a lot. She watches James,

801
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 4: she watches Russ, and she watches bron she watches, she.

802
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: Watches who who you would watch?

803
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: Watch?

804
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 3: Watches who I would watch?

805
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 4: I guess, I mean, And there's so many young talented

806
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 4: players out there.

807
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 3: It's it's amazing.

808
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,239
Speaker 4: And when I took it to the Laker game, that's

809
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 4: the first Laker game I've been to, I since my

810
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 4: jersey retirement. And we just had so much fun because

811
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 4: for the first time I was seeing the.

812
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: Game through her eyes.

813
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 4: It wasn't me sitting there, you know, as an athlete

814
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 4: or a player or something like that, and then you know,

815
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 4: it's like about me, and I don't like that. It

816
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 4: was her, like she was having such a good time

817
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 4: and the players are coming.

818
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 3: Up and saying how to her?

819
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 4: And you know, and Brian was talking about her fade away,

820
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 4: and you know it was it was exciting and she

821
00:33:58,800 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 4: has such a great time.

822
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 3: As a father.

823
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 5: You just that's all you wants. Yes, yes, being the

824
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,959
Speaker 5: father with girls. I have girls, we both have girls.

825
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 5: When it's time for that first day, they're gonna get

826
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 5: that mom book eighty one point staff, you're gonna get

827
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 5: the boy to the stad Like, look.

828
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 3: Bro, I put eighty one on the court.

829
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 5: Don't maybe put eighty one of these on you.

830
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 8: You know, I think it's implied. Yeah, already implied, I think,

831
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 8: you know, And I think Vanessa honestly drives a harder

832
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 8: bargain than I do when it.

833
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 3: Comes to that really that stuff. Yeah.

834
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you got to get past that line of

835
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 4: defense face. Yeah, moms, you know that's national security.

836
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 7: Past that.

837
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 4: Now you have to deal with the real big, big,

838
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 4: big dog. Yeah, it's gonna be nice, exactly so, but no,

839
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 4: it's good man. We just try to raise our girls

840
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 4: to be strong, independent women. You know what I'm saying,

841
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 4: hold themselves really high standards, self respect, things of that nature,

842
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 4: and you just trust that you've raised.

843
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: Them the right way you have been going for twenty years. Yeah,

844
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: tell me what that. I mean with the heart of

845
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,479
Speaker 1: your career and who you are. How what's your guy's

846
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: a secret sauce? Man, nothing's perfect, but you guys haven't

847
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: seem to make it work.

848
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 4: Just commitment and competitiveness of we are going to succeed,

849
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 4: you know. Like we've seen couples that have been like

850
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 4: eighty five years old, you.

851
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 3: Know, and you look at you're like, oh man.

852
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 4: Such an old, sweet couple, you know, and all sort

853
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 4: this stuff, and i'd go and I talk to them

854
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 4: because I want to know what time I go. Yeah,

855
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 4: it's great, but I mean she just kicked me out

856
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 4: of the bed last night. I'll sleep on the couch

857
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 4: last minutes. I'm like, it don't change, man, it don't change.

858
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 4: And married, you know, seventy something years, man, it doesn't change.

859
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 3: So it's a.

860
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,959
Speaker 4: Constant up and down the ebb and flows of relationships.

861
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 4: But that's also the beauty of it. And having the

862
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 4: persistence and the determination to work through things, very very

863
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 4: tough things.

864
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 3: And we've been able to do that commitment, that commitment.

865
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: So last thing before we get out of here, the

866
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: state of the Lakers with a D and Lebron. I

867
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: think they've turned the corner. You know, hats off to

868
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: Rob in the front office, who've kind of orchestrated this team.

869
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: But what do you think first of them as a

870
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: duo within the state of the Lakers.

871
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think I think people got to uh

872
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 4: uh she really seeing Rob's praises.

873
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 3: Absolutely, because I mean they were they were like killing them.

874
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 1: I was one of the people, like I said when

875
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: I spoke, because you know me, I'm straight from the cuff,

876
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: you know, even though I know Rob and I've seen

877
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: him at games that we shook hands since. But I

878
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 1: was just like, you know, it looks like a disaster

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Speaker 1: right now, and they navigated through and put parts together

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Speaker 1: that work.

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Speaker 3: They've seen a big picture when nobody else didn't. But

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Speaker 3: but that's the point though, right being able to stay

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Speaker 3: the course.

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Speaker 4: And you know, Rob and I have talked about this

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Speaker 4: stuff like we ain't not talk We don't talk about

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Speaker 4: you know, this move with that move. It's more so

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Speaker 4: him as a friend. It's just saying, Rob, you've been

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Speaker 4: there with me. Now it's just you going through it

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Speaker 4: and you know how we handle it is you just

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Speaker 4: stay the course, all this storm's going on and you

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Speaker 4: just stay here, just do your job, do your job,

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Speaker 4: do your job, do your job. But man, I mean

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Speaker 4: what he's done with that team in two years and

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Speaker 4: the contract that they once had and were tied up

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Speaker 4: to to what they have on this roster now. I

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Speaker 4: mean they're the biggest team that I've probably ever seen.

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Speaker 4: Their length, big, tough, tough athleticism, So they look fantastic.

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Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing for.

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Speaker 4: Them, and what they really need to invest in is health,

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Speaker 4: making sure the strength training is where it should be,

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Speaker 4: making sure physically they're always where they should be.

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Speaker 3: They got Judy over there.

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Speaker 4: Judy, she's the best, and so I think that's the

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Speaker 4: biggest thing for them.

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Speaker 3: It's just health.

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Speaker 4: If they're healthy, you know it's gonna you know, it's

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Speaker 4: gonna be a hell of a freeway series here that you.

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Speaker 1: Feel like it's gonna be Lakers and Clippers coming out.

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Speaker 3: Of the way.

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Speaker 4: It looks like it. It looks like it. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know that that Clippers team is well put together too.

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Speaker 4: They got dogs, man, they ain't scared of nothing.

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Speaker 5: Before the close on the show previous I sent a

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Speaker 5: shout out.

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Speaker 3: So me and my sons were trying to find this

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Speaker 3: undefeated pack.

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Speaker 5: Okay, you gotta stip send me in the right direction, bro,

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Speaker 5: we need them.

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Speaker 1: The right direction is right here. Yeah, right depends.

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Speaker 5: As soon as I walked in, the person got dust,

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Speaker 5: the ones off, you got on.

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Speaker 3: I'm a big time.

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Speaker 5: Shoe fan of yours, bro, but the undefeated pack, I

924
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Speaker 5: need them, We need.

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Speaker 1: This is great new This is Jack begging segment has

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Speaker 1: a segment with tails m J. I need my boxes back.

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Speaker 1: So you were next on the list, man, but we

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Speaker 1: just wanted We really appreciate your time. Man.

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Speaker 3: I'm having it. Bro. I can't believe YouTube guys are

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Speaker 3: doing media.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're doing it good, doing it great. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's it.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 1: That's a wrap episode eleven.

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Speaker 6: Uh Man.

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Speaker 1: We hope you guys enjoy it. We can't thank our

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Speaker 1: guests enough of all time. Kobe Bryant, Jack, we did

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Speaker 1: it again. Baby, hands aren't soaking wet. Congratulations, Man, makes

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Speaker 1: you sure you check this out Showtime Basketball YouTube channel

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Speaker 1: and all platform streaming podcast.

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Speaker 3: All these years we've been building, building and building.

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Speaker 2: When now opportunity do come my way, that's when the

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Speaker 1: Going him to the edeling, household was.

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Speaker 4: Crazy, Depression, anxiety, those.

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Speaker 3: Are the things I had. I hated it before, I've

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Speaker 3: just gotten more now, Legalizing sports gambling might just love.

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Speaker 7: Legalized cocaine and crystal.

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Speaker 3: Now so many people wanted Sunny dead. Question is who

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Speaker 3: got from first? This is all work, part just supported.

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Speaker 3: Don't see.

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Speaker 1: We help people understand football