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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Stealer Nation. How you doing well? That's good

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Speaker 2: us too, our number two weshular Matt Williamson here on

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Speaker 2: the Drive on a Tuesday in the middle.

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Speaker 3: Better mood than yesterday when we went to the second segment, totally.

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Speaker 3: You know, listen, you got you gotta move on, man.

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Speaker 2: Life is too short to be perpetually angry. That's something

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Speaker 2: I've certainly learned here in my thirty fifth year of well,

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Speaker 2: thirty fourth year of life on this planet. I'm with

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Speaker 2: you tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Yes, good day over seventeen, Well, thank you, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: I actually, can I tell you something funny that will

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Speaker 2: absolutely make you laugh, because again most people know this,

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Speaker 2: but peeling back the curtain, Matt and I, Yeah, we

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Speaker 2: started doing this show regularly together a few months ago

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Speaker 2: and are spending a lot of time together now. But

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Speaker 2: even over the years, we'd spend a week at the

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Speaker 2: Combine together every year, We'd been three weeks at training

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Speaker 2: camp together every year. A lot of settings where we're

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Speaker 2: working and then we're going out, you know, not like

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Speaker 2: everyone's going not like, after this show, we both go

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Speaker 2: back home to our families and stuff, and we're in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 3: The dort A podcast.

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Speaker 2: And then who wants to sit in the dorm all night?

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Speaker 2: He wants to sit in the hotel room all night,

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Speaker 2: Like we're going out, We're chatting, we're talking all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: You know how funny it is because you guys laugh

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Speaker 2: all the time. I get carted everywhere for everything. My

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Speaker 2: dad loves cigars. I buy my dad's cigars a couple

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Speaker 2: of times a year, like his birthday, Christmas, stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: I get carted buying cigars typically, Matt. I'm on a

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Speaker 2: streak now of like the last four or five times

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Speaker 2: I've bought beer or wine or whatever of not getting carted.

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Speaker 3: I'm worried.

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Speaker 2: I'm losing my fastball here a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Boys, I think becoming a dad does that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, little gray hair coming in on the side.

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Speaker 3: It's funny to me because I remember people asking me.

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Speaker 3: I've been asked many times like when you when did

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Speaker 3: you start going gray? I'm like, sou's my second kid?

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Speaker 3: Shut up?

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Speaker 2: My second is two years old.

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Speaker 3: And so yeah, our.

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Speaker 2: Buddy Adam Crowley, him and I were down in Morgantown

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Speaker 2: together for a football game a little recently, and he

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Speaker 2: was like, hey, you're not looking as bad as me,

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Speaker 2: but you got some grays coming in on the side.

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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, kids, certainly do help celebrate that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: losing my fastball.

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Speaker 3: I think it was last combine. I sent a picture.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I tell this story. I remember this story.

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Speaker 3: I think it's the same one. My son's son. Who's

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Speaker 3: a little kid with you? Guys?

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Speaker 2: You were like that somebody three years old?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody bring their kid with them? Can I could

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Speaker 3: I come?

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Speaker 2: Is it bring your Does it bring your son to

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Speaker 2: comic as well? Too?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Hey, no, it's funny. Listen, we'll see who's laughing when

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Speaker 2: I'm sixty.

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Speaker 3: All right, it's a good thing.

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Speaker 2: But I am. I think I'm losing my fastball a

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Speaker 2: little bit. I'm on like four straight times of not

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Speaker 2: getting carted. What has happened?

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Speaker 3: Voice change?

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Speaker 2: Then I know what I'm asked for for Christmas. I

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Speaker 2: need a razor for Christmas. Finally starting to get some

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Speaker 2: peach fuzz, Matt, let's get into our weekly fantasy football

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Speaker 2: focus here, of course, a little Waiver Wire conversation, and

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Speaker 2: I gotta think with that man that gruesome, gruesome injury

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Speaker 2: to Cam Sketty Tyrone. Tracy's got to be high on

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Speaker 2: people's waiver wire this week.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's probably in most leagues. I mean, you

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Speaker 3: got to be a pretty shallow league for him.

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Speaker 2: This is under sixty percent. Guys that are owned less

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Speaker 2: than sixty percent, I can buy the fantasy football.

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Speaker 3: Roster, especially in like ten teamers things like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but you maybe want to consider trading for him too, Like,

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Speaker 3: I think he's gonna get a lot of work if

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Speaker 3: you really want to dig deep. I think Singletary is

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Speaker 3: worth exploring. I thought Singletary could be a trade deadline candidate.

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Speaker 3: Trade deadlines one week from the to day, by the way, folks.

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Speaker 3: But it's not a great offense. I mean, these guys

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Speaker 3: aren't league winners. You know, Tracy is a nice player

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Speaker 3: that's going to be a volume guy for you.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing. At this point, particularly at the running

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Speaker 2: back position, You're just looking for somebody that you know

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean it's like when Videl took over with

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Speaker 3: the Chargers, Like you gotta pick them.

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Speaker 2: Up exactly right, another one kind of same charge, different

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Speaker 2: pew to use a mic pursuit a line. Bam Knight

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that one doesn't excite me as much. I think

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Speaker 3: it's just a little grayer of how they're gonna use

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Speaker 3: these dudes. And he did kind of step up this

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Speaker 3: last week. I don't think he's a particularly great player.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's on the list. But Dylan

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Speaker 3: Samson's another hot name this this week too, because Gottaboo

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Speaker 2: Dylan is on the list, just owning fourteen percent of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like I drafted him and dropped him because

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Speaker 3: Judkins just took such a workload. But I would be

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Speaker 3: more interested in Samson, way more interested that. Tracy's an

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Speaker 3: obvious one, but that's not the Bam Knight's that good.

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Speaker 3: But if you're desperate, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Last one in that conversation owned in thirty one percent

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Speaker 2: of leagues. What about Tajy Spears of the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's a ants Pollard gets traded. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think any Titan not named Ward or maybe Simmons

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Speaker 2: They're probably not gonna be part of the solution.

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean, they're looking for a youth movement. Spears

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Speaker 3: got a lot of work this past week. Just came off.

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Speaker 3: I are they like them? I mean, what if Pollard

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Speaker 3: I mean like so, yeah, I got no quallem with that.

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Speaker 2: Those are the running back names able to catch.

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Speaker 3: His passes and they're losing a lot. Yeah, he's not

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Speaker 3: closing out games like jer Own, Batt's or the Titan.

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Speaker 2: Not a bad place to be, Not a bad place

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Speaker 2: to be. Matt still only owned by thirty six percent

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Speaker 2: of fantasy leagues. How we feeling about Sam Darnold for

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Speaker 2: people that need a quarterback? Fair like? I guesskay? For example,

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Speaker 2: him and Trevor Lawrence are the highest rated but lowly

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Speaker 2: owned fantasy quarterbacks. Okay, which one of those guys would

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Speaker 3: Probably Darnald, although I do expect a lot out of

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Speaker 3: the Jags coming out of the by especially Hunter. I

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Speaker 3: know he's in every league, but I I see really.

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Speaker 2: He's really started to seem like the game's slowing down

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Speaker 2: for him and he's getting comfortable. Yeah. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: by the end of the season we could talk about

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Speaker 2: him is like one day happy one of those guys

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Speaker 3: Yeah, them, but I prefer Donald. The problem with both

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Speaker 3: the well, the problem with Donald he doesn't run much

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Speaker 3: at all, Lawrence does. Some quarterbacks. Is such an easy

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Speaker 3: position to find in one quarterback league is that these

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Speaker 3: guys are sixteenth seventeenth on your quarterback list, and you

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Speaker 3: may use them here and there, but you might be better

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Speaker 3: off picking up Spears or somebody like that and just

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Speaker 3: live with one quarterback. It's not a just load up

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Speaker 3: on running backs. And because they get hurt.

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Speaker 2: Not a bad strategy, Not a bad strategy at all.

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Speaker 2: Let's see here a couple more names to run by.

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Speaker 2: How about some wide receivers. Which of this trio would

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Speaker 2: you prefer? Kishan Butte of the Patriots, Troy Franklin of

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Speaker 2: the Broncos, Alec Pierce of the soon to travel to

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Speaker 2: this parish Indianapolis Cults.

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Speaker 3: Interesting I heard this morning, and I didn't double fact

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Speaker 3: check it, but I think Roma Doonesa was the only

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Speaker 3: wide receiver that had over one hundred yards this week.

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Speaker 3: Very low passing, okay, I mean a lot of blowouts,

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Speaker 3: you know, crafted there's some tight ends, but there was.

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Speaker 3: It was the only wide out I think there's also

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Speaker 3: six teams on buy Those names are fine. Usually if

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Speaker 3: I'm picking somebody up at a wide receiver spot, it's

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Speaker 3: because I need to. I'm going to start them right away.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be excited about starting any of those dudes.

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Speaker 3: I'm not super excited about any of them for let's

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Speaker 3: hold them for three weeks, because they're ready to blow up,

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Speaker 3: you know. So they're okay, you know, I mean in

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Speaker 3: a deeper league or flex if you need them, they're fine.

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Speaker 3: They'll have their moments, but none of them are top

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Speaker 3: thirty six type guys. You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I am. I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not a real super exciting group.

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Speaker 2: No, not at all. I guess fine. Last one, I

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Speaker 2: I asked you this a couple of times over the

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Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. But how we feel about JJ

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Speaker 2: McCarthy sounding like he could be returning to action for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Wentz is out of the picture now he's

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Speaker 3: on ir He looks bad.

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Speaker 3: He real really did. He's kind of appealing And I

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Speaker 3: don't know if McCarthy's good at all. We have nothing

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Speaker 3: Viking uniform hasn't been particularly great. I think he's missed

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Speaker 3: twenty two out of twenty four games or something like that,

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Speaker 3: maybe even twenty three out of twenty five now. But

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Speaker 3: he runs, and that offense with Jones and Hawkinson and

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Speaker 3: Addison especially Jefferson is real quarterback friendly deeper leagues. He's

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Speaker 3: kind of appealing, you know. I mean, I wouldn't just

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Speaker 3: brush him off like he stinks. I mean, I think

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Speaker 3: it'll be better for fantasy than the real world.

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Speaker 2: It makes sense, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: He runs and he's in a good situation.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of been the case for the tight ends

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Speaker 2: hasn't it unfortunatelyortunate Raft You can understand he's a stud,

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Speaker 2: but everybody else.

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Speaker 3: Has been like Henry and Barner Fane. It's a fine player,

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Speaker 3: right right, right, But they're they're allowing way too much

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Speaker 3: production to the tight end position right now. I mean

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Speaker 3: really everything in the passing game they're allowing too much production.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which is weird too, because I actually thought that

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Speaker 2: Peyton Wilson played one of it. That was another thing

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Speaker 2: just didn't have time to get to. I thought Peyton

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Speaker 2: Wilson played pretty well watching a.

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Speaker 3: Second time of the back seven coverage players, I thought

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Speaker 3: he's the one that could hold his head the highest.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you know, like, okay, you weren't part of the problem.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was still interesting as Tucker Craft ran

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Speaker 2: wild and that's not obviously just a linebacker thing, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: they I.

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Speaker 3: Think Craft can do it to a lot of teams. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but that's still was unacceptable, and so.

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Speaker 2: Was Tyler Warren, who you're going to see on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: But ye, again, these guys are going to make plays.

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Speaker 2: They're going to get theirs, but you can't let them

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Speaker 3: It has to be a Titans.

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Speaker 2: It's the Tennis I was gonna say to be surprise,

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Speaker 3: I mean, come on, maybe by a mile. At this point,

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Speaker 3: there's some really bad football teams, Jets just one. Actually,

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Speaker 3: I still think the Jets beat the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: I think they'll do that. Offensive line can't be much worse.

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Speaker 2: So again, I'm not saying that they're gonna win three

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Speaker 3: It's a really good point. They've been a disaster.

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Speaker 2: Disaster.

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Speaker 2: Won two games, but they've been a disaster.

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Speaker 3: They've been a really really bad team. On last viewing

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Speaker 3: considering they're come off their buy it might not be fair.

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Speaker 2: One grain of salt that I'm willing to give.

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Speaker 3: I'll buy that.

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Speaker 2: I think Pete Carroll, obviously Pete Carroll knows what he's

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Speaker 3: I think Gino and Carol are better than what they've shown.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, uh so, Yes, Saints at thirty, Raiders at

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of names that could be moving

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Speaker 2: Your boy Tyler Shuck, it looks like he is going

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Speaker 3: Which is a little rough on Rattler because he has

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Speaker 2: We'll see how that plays out. They continue to look

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Speaker 2: At two anyway, exactly right. It doesn't look like it's

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Speaker 3: Lot of firepower no matter what. And I know it's early,

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Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 3: that's Rudolph's why. There's nothing wrong with that. Right, But

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Speaker 2: They've got their bie weeks. That'd be the right time,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be some good things going on. But

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Speaker 2: It's the Miami Dolphins good.

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Speaker 3: I guess that's fair. Defense is really really poor, I

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Speaker 2: Like, if the Bengals and the Cardinals are playing this weekend,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Miami's It's amazing that Arizona's gotten to

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Speaker 2: It's like maybe this this won't be a pushover.

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Speaker 3: Right, all right, They're in pretty bad shape. That could

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Speaker 2: I think so. They have the NFL's second toughest rated

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Speaker 3: I don't think they're getting enough heat for biggest four

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Speaker 2: But yeah, if we're the most positively surprised by Indianapolis

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Speaker 3: Yeah, their own beast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, it just dealt with so many entries.

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Speaker 3: But but yeah, I felt a lot better about them

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Speaker 3: cowboys style. They got an extra pick from UH Parsons

439
00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,400
Speaker 3: and they got some firepower.

440
00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,959
Speaker 2: Twenty one. The Carolina Panthers, they fall to four and four,

441
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 2: were after getting blown at home the lower same.

442
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 3: I think they were a bit of a mirage.

443
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,679
Speaker 2: I give them some credit for being at four and

444
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 2: three point and not. You know, I didn't see that

445
00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 2: being a disaster. Yeah, if you would have said to

446
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,160
Speaker 2: me at the beginning of the season between the Saints

447
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,920
Speaker 2: and the Panthers, one of those teams would be one

448
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,119
Speaker 2: and seven and one would be four and four, I

449
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,879
Speaker 2: would have guess Carolina was the one in seventeen. So

450
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 2: credit to them, But I think this might be the

451
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 2: start of a rough back half of the season.

452
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,879
Speaker 3: Ye, Dalton was really rough and they've been kind of

453
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 3: all over the place all year.

454
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,680
Speaker 2: They have, and hey, they're four and four, but doesn't

455
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,440
Speaker 2: feel like four and four threatening, Like if you would

456
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 2: have told us before the season, Carolina is going to

457
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 2: be four and four after eight weeks. We'd be like,

458
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:42,959
Speaker 2: all right, yeah, some good thing.

459
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 3: That's I kind of I was going to say too.

460
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,199
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, I mean, if those results are

461
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,680
Speaker 3: better than expected, but I don't think they make any noise.

462
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 2: It doesn't feel that way. Number twenty down a couple

463
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,879
Speaker 2: spots after getting walloped by Miami. It's the Atlanta Falcons.

464
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:58,160
Speaker 3: I'm getting bad mojo.

465
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 2: No Penis, no Drake London, which is important to note,

466
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 2: but they still just looked helpless against Miami. Kirk Cousin's

467
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 2: gonna move in the next week.

468
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 3: We did a podcast earlier and we had Minnesota grabbing

469
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:11,880
Speaker 3: them with Wentz going.

470
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 2: On would make a ton of sense.

471
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 3: I know, you could acclimate right away, a ton of sense.

472
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 3: I think he doesn't like have to get out of

473
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,160
Speaker 3: the building. He's not a bad guy, no problem.

474
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 2: In fact, they might like having him around. Penix.

475
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:27,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, London being out really hurt them. Their defense

476
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,440
Speaker 3: was shown a lot of signs of life, and now

477
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 3: it's not at all.

478
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 2: That's a good way to put it as well. Certainly

479
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 2: up a few spots after getting off the mat and

480
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 2: getting back into the wind column. Number nineteen, the Baltimore

481
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 2: Ravens is the season saved for now, Matt, Yeah, I.

482
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 3: Mean it's that was a huge, huge win for them.

483
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 3: It looks like things get easier. I guess that's about

484
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 3: where i'd have them. They're a tough team to rank

485
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 3: for power ranks because I mean, I guess you have

486
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 3: to rank them as if Lamar's the quarterback because he's

487
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,120
Speaker 3: gonna play Thursday.

488
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 2: It sounds like I was gonna say they're now They're

489
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 2: now the next AFC North team to have to go

490
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,120
Speaker 2: on the road on Thursday night.

491
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 3: Oh and that is an AFC North thing is bad

492
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 3: on the road.

493
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 2: Fall to two and six and losing the Dolphins, that'd

494
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 2: be another AFC loss. Then they have to go two Minnesota.

495
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 2: I mean, they do have Cleveland and the Jets coming

496
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 2: up on the schedule, but man, they still have to

497
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 2: play the Packers, They still have to play the Patriots.

498
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 2: They still have two against the Steelers, two against the Bengals. Yeah,

499
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 2: it's tough for Baltimore, Like the I think.

500
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 3: They can only lose like two games too.

501
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe, but yeah, I mean, so they're two and

502
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 2: five now. If they lost two that would Okay, ten

503
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 2: to seven is still a possibility.

504
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 3: Chance. The more I think through the AFC, though, I

505
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 3: don't think two teams come out of the North. No,

506
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 3: so they have to win the division, which means they

507
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 3: can't lose the Steelers.

508
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 2: Probably there is a chance, certainly that we could get

509
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 2: to that last week of this Sanuary what fourth or

510
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 2: fifth or whatever it would be, because the final week

511
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 2: is all TBD, right, you can play on Saturday, you

512
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 2: can play on Sunday. How the way the NFL does

513
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 2: everybody is flexed scheduling. Now the final week of the season,

514
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 2: there's a chance that that could be a tie breaker

515
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 2: type Steelers Ravens Winter Winter wins the North loser. You know,

516
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 2: uh will Willy Wonka and the Charlote Factory. You get nothing.

517
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 2: Gene Wilder, that's the name I was looking for, right, yeah, yeah,

518
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 2: but it's I have been guilty of being like the Okay,

519
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 2: the Ravens have gotten the tough part of their schedule

520
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 2: out of the way, but it's on the road for

521
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 2: Thursday night. You got to go to Minnesota. You still

522
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 2: have to go to Lambeau.

523
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're one that definitely you.

524
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 2: Got you got the Patriots coming to town in December.

525
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 3: A lot better now than there are, a lot worse.

526
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 2: Now than tough. It's tough, I tell you what, though.

527
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 3: I think they can lose two.

528
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 2: It most take take. They got to start by taking

529
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 2: care of business on the road on on a Thursday night.

530
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 2: That's where right now, for nothing else matters for Baltimore.

531
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 3: Sure have been nice if the Bears would have got that.

532
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 2: One, Oh boy, would it have Maybe, Hey, maybe Minka

533
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 2: Fitzpatrick in Miami can help us out on Thursday night

534
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 2: down a couple spots in Matt, you called it with

535
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 2: this team. It's the Washington Commanders now three and five

536
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 2: after falling to the chief last night.

537
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 3: They looked very average against a good team. You know,

538
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 3: Chiefs dominated time possession, and I understand Daniels wasn't there,

539
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 3: but they did get McLaurin back, and I may even

540
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 3: have them a little.

541
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 2: Lower seventeen ahead of them, Matt. This to me is

542
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 2: a team that should still be feeling good about itself.

543
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 2: But it was a tough one in Baltimore against the

544
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 2: Lamarls Ravens. Yeah, four and three Chicago Bears.

545
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 3: But I do think the train's on the track.

546
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 2: Like this is one of those you and I have

547
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 2: talked about this something motes you used to talk about

548
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 2: all the time. In this league, progression is not linear. No, no,

549
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: you talk about the three steps forward, one step back,

550
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 2: two steps forward, three steps back, five steps forward, two

551
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 2: step back. I think for them the arrow is still

552
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 2: pointing upward.

553
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 3: But it was a winning streak as few days ago

554
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 3: or three days.

555
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: Ago, step back this past week. But hey, there's still

556
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 2: four and three. They still got plenty to play for.

557
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, defense is less than impressive and has some injuries,

558
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 3: but the most important pieces are doing what you want.

559
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 3: You know, a Dunez and Williams and the running game.

560
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 2: And you know, here come the Texans. Matt up five

561
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: spots to be ranked six.

562
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 3: I think even higher.

563
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 2: I might as well too. They come great. Their defense

564
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 2: might be the best in the NFL. Yeah, and when CJ.

565
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 2: Stroud is playing like he is, that's a that's a

566
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 2: tough opponent. They are a team that has certainly navigated

567
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 2: the toughest portion of their schedule.

568
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, they may have worked some things out.

569
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: They they're three and four, so they haven't left themselves

570
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 2: a ton of room for air.

571
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 3: They don't know, I don't know if they can catch

572
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 3: a cold.

573
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 2: I was going to say the division title might be

574
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 2: out of out of the realm of possibility, but they're

575
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: gonna be. They're going to be in this conversation down

576
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 2: the stretch for sure.

577
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 3: They finally helped their own line out by putting a

578
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 3: six guy out there, a bunch Nik that was without Nico,

579
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 3: who's still a superstar, you know. So they're they're not

580
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 3: in a good spot, but they're playing well.

581
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 2: Sticking at fifteen after their bye week, and a good

582
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 2: time for them to have the bye week after two

583
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: straight losses. It's the four and three Jacksonville Jaguars.

584
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 3: I don't know problem ranking them there, but I would

585
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 3: if I had the bet of which of those two

586
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 3: AFC South teams went to the playoffs, I would bet

587
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 3: on the Texans.

588
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 2: Ooh, I'm with you. Yeah, I mean, Jacksonville has the

589
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 2: advantage right now. I don't think either catches the Colts,

590
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 2: but I trust more in C. J. Stroud and that

591
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 2: Houston defense, and just as a team that's been to

592
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 2: the postseason each of the last two years.

593
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, Houston, there's something said for that.

594
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: Down just one spot to fourteen. It's the Pittsburgh Stellars.

595
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 3: I thought they'd be lower.

596
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: Still have them all of the Jags, I think I will.

597
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 3: Say the teams we just mentioned, though, like.

598
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: Houston, maybe i'd have conversation. I have him ahead of

599
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 2: the Bears, have them ahead of the Commanders.

600
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, this I mean this name hood right.

601
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: An interesting one though. The Niners are at thirteen ahead

602
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 2: of the Steelers.

603
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 3: They had a rough go of things, but they they

604
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 3: have a lot of five wins, right.

605
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 2: They do. They're five and three. I think they got

606
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: their bye week either this week or next week. And

607
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 2: it's a good time for them to have it. They're

608
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: banged up, they need it bad.

609
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 3: They're defense is starting.

610
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: There are another one of those to me that feels

611
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 2: like they're they were punching above their weight class for

612
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 2: the start of the streason and yeah, and maybe they're

613
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 2: coming back down to earth a little bit.

614
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, Houston beat them pretty handily.

615
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 2: Yes, they did, up to number twelve, up five spots

616
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: and you know, shaking off some some of that rust

617
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: that that hit them in late September early October. It's

618
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 2: the Steelers next opponent after the Colts, the LA Chargers.

619
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 3: I'm fine with it. I think I would have them

620
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 3: over everyone we've spoken about. I would have them ahead

621
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: of the Steelers.

622
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: Man Joe Walt being back.

623
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 3: It goes a long way world that guy.

624
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 2: That guy's all world man, Yeah, he really is.

625
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 3: That's they navigated probably their toughest stretch without the two

626
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 3: tackles and some injuries. You know, Hampton will be back

627
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 3: at some point too at running back, and I think

628
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 3: the offense pretty good.

629
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 2: I have this conversation with my friends all the time, Matt,

630
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 2: like you know, like sitting in a buddy's basement watching

631
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 2: the games, or you know, sitting at a pub with

632
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 2: my with my boys or something. I never want the

633
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 2: Steelers to be bad, you know, for what you and

634
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: I do for a living. Like my greatest nightmare is

635
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 2: a Steelers team that picks in the top five. And

636
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 2: I know a lot of the fan base wants that

637
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 2: reset button get a high pag. They also wouldn't have

638
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: to come in here and talk about it every such time,

639
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: polish a turn every single day like you and I

640
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: would have to. But when I watched Joealt play it,

641
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: I'm reminded. Do you remember a few years ago it

642
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 2: was the COVID season when the Steelers started eleven and

643
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 2: zero and then lost that weird like Tuesday afternoon game

644
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: to the to the Washington whatever the heck they were

645
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: at the time, the football team and Chase That was

646
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 2: Chase Young's rookie year and he played really well in

647
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: that game. To the NFL film's clip of Mike Tomlin

648
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: being like, I hope I'm never bad enough to draft

649
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: a player like you, but I would love to have

650
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 2: a player like you. That's how I feel when I

651
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: watched Joe Alt play. I hope you're never bad enough.

652
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: I don't want the Steelers to be bad enough to

653
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: draft a player like you, but man, I would love

654
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: to have a player like you.

655
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not a hard evaluation. I mean, like that

656
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 3: guy goes the top five of every draft, every draft,

657
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 3: and he's gonna play for as long as he's healthy

658
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 3: and be really good.

659
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Number eleven stay in there. After a fifth straight win,

660
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: watch out here comes Drake May Here come the New

661
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: England Patriots, And I want to throw up all over myself.

662
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 2: This fan base did not deserve to get another great quarterback.

663
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: That fast, and he's getting MVP buzz, which I don't

664
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Speaker 3: think is crazy. I think these Chargers are better than they.

665
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: Are though, ooh, interesting.

666
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 3: Patriots are playing really well. They are, and this is

667
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 3: definitely way ahead of the schedule.

668
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 2: This might be the best they play all year. You know,

669
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: we might look back at Thanksgiving and they drop a

670
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: game or two that you didn't expect, and there's.

671
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Speaker 3: It's still a highly successful season.

672
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: No doubt.

673
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 3: Right.

674
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: I think they are going to make the playoffs.

675
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 3: To which they got a lot of wins ahead of them.

676
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 2: They got a lot of wins ahead of them, and

677
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: they've got some type They got some nice tie breakers

678
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: as well too, although not against the Steelers, which could

679
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: end up being a factor down the street. Could But

680
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: I think this is about right for New England. But

681
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: if you had to make me guess they're eleven, now

682
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 2: do they get closer to the top five or do

683
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Speaker 2: they fall down to the fifteenish range? I would say

684
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: fall down to the fifteenish range.

685
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Speaker 3: I think they'll continue to climb because their upcoming schedule

686
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 3: and it's it's pretty pretty, very very favorable. But say

687
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Speaker 3: the least, and I'm not giving this author a hard

688
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 3: time or you know this writer, but of course, if

689
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 3: they keep winning, of course they're going to go up,

690
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Speaker 3: But I don't know that they'll ever be one of

691
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 3: the that they'll warrant their spot, you know what I mean. Like,

692
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure that their play is as good as

693
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Speaker 3: their record, and you know, as a resume.

694
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Speaker 2: They got the Falcons at home this week, they'll be

695
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 2: fair one. Okay, Then they have to go to Tampa Bay.

696
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 2: That's tough.

697
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 3: Ye, that's tough.

698
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Speaker 2: They get the Jets at home, Faith Cincinnati on the road. Yeah,

699
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: Giants at home. Then they have a week fourteen bye

700
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: week that might line up very nicely for them. Yeah,

701
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Speaker 2: Bills at home, at Baltimore at Jets, Dolphins at home.

702
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 3: Jets twice. You've got Miami still once.

703
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: They're gonna be dogs in two games. The rest of

704
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 2: the year, they'll be underdogs at Tampa and against Buffalo

705
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: maybe maybe maybe Baltimore, and that by that point that's

706
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: the week before Christmas, Baltimore could be could be in.

707
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 2: You know, we win our last three games, will be

708
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. Thing for Baltimore. But Patriots at number eleven.

709
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 3: But they're gonna win double edch games probably.

710
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: Yes, I think so. It'd be almost disappointing, not too uh,

711
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: starting to look like the contending team that we thought

712
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: that they would be this year, the Denver Broncos, checking

713
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: at number ten. They are also six and two.

714
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 3: Knicks is looking a lot better, a lot more comfortable.

715
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: They've put up a ton of points in the last

716
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Speaker 3: two games, but they did just lose certain for like

717
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 3: five or six weeks. That hurts like that, Yeah that hurts.

718
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 3: Player of the Year, you.

719
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: Know, absolutely.

720
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 3: R J.

721
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: Harvey looking a little bit more like the part out

722
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Speaker 2: of the backfield.

723
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Speaker 3: Yeah, big plays.

724
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Speaker 2: Number nine. The five and two Buffalo Bills, Remember Matt

725
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: They hadn't won a game for like a month, two

726
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 2: straight losses, and then their bye week. Well, they went

727
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 2: down to Carolina and exercised some demons and beat up

728
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: on a Panthers team and looked more like the Bills

729
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: that we expect.

730
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 3: I don't love their pass catchers or their defense, but

731
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 3: they're still They could win the Super Bowl, Yeah, no doubt.

732
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: Larry Ogan Joby playing a nice role for them on

733
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: Sunday as well too. And tell you formerly of this

734
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: parish sticking at number eight. Not world beating performance, but professional,

735
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: buttoned up tidy what they were supposed to do. Went

736
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 2: down to New Orleans and took care of business. The

737
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: six and two Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

738
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're weathering some storms right now. And Mayfield's come

739
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 3: back to earth a little the last two weeks. Like

740
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 3: no one talk about him a his MVP stuff anymore.

741
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 3: He's having a good year. Doesn't get me wrong. He's

742
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 3: still a real good player, but not elite. Their defense

743
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 3: was a big reason they won that game.

744
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 2: But good number seven the Los Angeles Rams. Uh, sounds

745
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: like they're getting Poopa back, which would be huge. I

746
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 2: was gonna say that defense is one of the better

747
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 2: units in the league.

748
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got no qualms with that.

749
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: Like you and I have said, as long as Stafford

750
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: as healthy, they are a legit contender.

751
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah they are.

752
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: Number six is the Seattle Seahawks. Matt five and two Seattle.

753
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I can speculate who's ahead of them, but

754
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 3: that's the lowest i'd have them. Seahawks are legit.

755
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: I do too. I think that's about right, though. I

756
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: think it's crazy Seattle La Tampa that six, seven, eight range.

757
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: You could kind of shake them up in a jar

758
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: and roll out in any order, and I don't know

759
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 2: if I'd be greatly upset. I think I might give

760
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: the Rams the edge just because what they have a

761
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: quarterback coach.

762
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 3: For me, but yeah, and Bounds, they're all similar.

763
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: But Seattle checking in at number six, number five, moving

764
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: up a little bit after a couple looking more like

765
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: them self performances. It's the Philadelphia Iggles.

766
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Speaker 3: They're another team like the Bills that put some doubts

767
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: to rest recently.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that, Matt.

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Speaker 3: Number four minds healthier too.

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Speaker 2: Number four, highest ranking they've been since they fell to

771
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Speaker 2: the Browns. It's the five to one and one Green

772
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Speaker 2: Bay Packers.

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Speaker 3: Ooh so Dale and I used to do this a

774
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 3: lot on Power ranking Day. I mean, so the Steelers

775
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 3: have lost to number four, number seven or six, and

776
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 3: the Bengals were like twenty two or something. Yes, so

777
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 3: four on a short week in their place in twenty two. Yeah,

778
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 3: I mean that's I mean, no, losses are great, they

779
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: didn't look good in the game, but you're not gonna

780
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 3: go seventeen. Oh guys, right, you know what I mean?

781
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: Right now? I guess the other side of that is

782
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: a lot of the teams that you've beaten. Besides the

783
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: Patriots would be down on this test too. A good point,

784
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 2: but hey, you've got some opportunity to change that. You're

785
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 2: going to see the Colts, who are spoiler alert, number

786
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: two on this list. You're going to see Buffalo who's

787
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: in the top ten. You're gonna see the Chargers here soon,

788
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: who are twelve.

789
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 3: So Chargers are out in the corner right.

790
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 2: Some opportunities, certainly, But yeah, the Packers checking at number four.

791
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll be not thrilled if all these teams,

792
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 3: all these top ten type teams beat the Steelers handily,

793
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 3: you know, like we saw that sort of last year

794
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 3: at the end, like you don't want to be that team.

795
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 3: But it'll be telling. It will definitely be telling.

796
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 2: Matt, don't look now, we've been saying this for the

797
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. Number three, the Kansas City Chiefs.

798
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 3: Is that too low? I think the Colts and Lines

799
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 3: are ahead of them in some order.

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00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 2: The Colts and Lions are the two teams ahead of them.

801
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, you could argue with me

802
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: that the Packers and the Eagles and knowing.

803
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm better than the Lions or of the Colts.

804
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 3: I don't know that I could put them ahead of

805
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 3: those two.

806
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: But it's listen, the Chiefs get benefit of the doubt here,

807
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: but I would also say they deserve it. They've earned

808
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt I have. I might have them

809
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 2: as bought are two lower, but I'm okay with it.

810
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: I'm not kicking and screaming about it.

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00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 3: No, I'd have them over the Packers. Yeah, yeah, I

812
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 3: think three's right.

813
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 2: Two Colts, one Lions.

814
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 3: No one's having a better year than the Colts. Whether

815
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 3: everyone buys into Daniel Jones or if this is real,

816
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 3: that's up to you. I have bought in, especially to

817
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: the offense. I mean, I think the offense is elite.

818
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 3: Jonathan Monster, I don't know what to add to the Lions.

819
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 3: The Lions are been really good for a couple of years,

820
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 3: and they're as good as they've ever been.

821
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 2: And to get to your point of your exercise, they're

822
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 2: five and two. Their losses are against the number three

823
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs and the number four Green Bay Packers. Yeah,

824
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: both on the road.

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00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 3: On the road, okay, yeah, I mean I one was

826
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Speaker 3: week one.

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Speaker 2: I think let's do this, so maybe we should start

828
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 2: doing this the rest of the way real quick as

829
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Speaker 2: we wrap this up. The playoffs started today who you're

830
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: picking out of the NFC. Who you picking out of

831
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Speaker 2: the AFC? Lions, Chiefs, Lions, Colts, Packers, Colts, Packers.

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00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 3: Chiefs, Chiefs. I mean to go to the Super Bowl

833
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 3: you're talking about?

834
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, I.

835
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Speaker 3: Mean I think the Colts will end up with homefield advantage.

836
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 3: I'm just not sure that you're ready to win playoff

837
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 3: games against Buffalo and Baltimore and the Chiefs. I take

838
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 3: green Bay. NFC is harder for me. It's hard far

839
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 3: I could make case for.

840
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: I think right now I would come, not comfortably, but

841
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: maybe confidently, say Chiefs, nfcs it you're right, I mean, yeah, Detroit,

842
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: green Bay, Philly, Seattle, the Rams.

843
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 3: I don't think i'd take the Eagles. I think I

844
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 3: would take Green Bay or Detroit, leaning towards the Packers.

845
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: It's an interesting one, yeah, I think. And that's who

846
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: we both picked to win the NFC when the season

847
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 2: started to be fair it is you picked Packers Ravens

848
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 2: for the Super Bowl. I picked Packers Bills for the

849
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: Super Bowl before the season started. I think I would

850
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: go Packers Chiefs right now. But the lines are tough

851
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: to the lines are tough to do.

852
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, one more segment to go, Matt.

853
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 2: We'll wrap this thing up on the other side when

854
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Speaker 2: we return. Closed down this Tuesday edition of The Drive

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

857
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Final segment here on a Tuesday. It's been a fun show.

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00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 2: This is kind of our last day before we turn

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Speaker 2: the page type show. Tomorrow we will start to talk

861
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: more about those cults and everything involving Pittsburgh and Indianapolis

862
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: on Sunday. Will also I'm getting excited every single week

863
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 2: for our round campus segment.

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Speaker 1: Matt.

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Speaker 2: Is there is a ton to talk about about these quarterbacks? Yeah,

866
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 2: there is. We'll have Best at the West, right, best

867
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: Best of the West tomorrow.

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00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 3: We're gonna do the quarterback stuff tomorrow.

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00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 2: Around campus tomorrow. So I was thinking to kind of

870
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 2: tie in. I was thinking for Best of the West,

871
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: we could I could power rank the available college football

872
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: jobs for you, all right. I might put that on

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Speaker 2: hold for a week though, because I feel like we

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Speaker 2: have to do something for Halloween tomorrow for the Best

875
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: of the West as well too. We'll think we'll think

876
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: on that one over the next twenty four hours. But Matt,

877
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 2: I want to throw you a little curveball here. Maybe

878
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 2: this is something I could have done for Best of

879
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: the West. I'm gonna throw you a little curveball here.

880
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey last night tied Priest Holmes for most touchdowns

881
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 2: and the Chiefs organization. Sure, we've only got like two minutes,

882
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 2: three minutes until we got a break here, So I

883
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: figured this would be a good way to get us

884
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 2: out of here the minute that he retires, which will

885
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 2: probably be after this season.

886
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 3: I was shocked he came back, but I think it's

887
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: the right move.

888
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: And maybe one has to run at it, you know,

889
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: it doesn't want his last game to be a lobsided

890
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: Super Bowl loss. Rank for me, your best title, you

891
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 2: could give me, top three, top five, whatever you want

892
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: to do. Best tight ends in NFL history as we

893
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 2: stand here today, Tuesday, October twenty eighth, twenty twenty five.

894
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 2: I know I'm putting you on the spot here a

895
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 2: little bit, but you're great with this kind of stuff.

896
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 3: It's not the first time I've thought about it.

897
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: No, you've never thought about this before.

898
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 3: Goronk is a distant one.

899
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 2: Thank you, that's my answer as well to love that.

900
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 3: But then after that, then after that, I think you

901
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 3: have conversations. I'd probably go.

902
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 2: Kelsey ahead of Gonzalez.

903
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it basically comes on to Gonzalez and Kelsey. I

904
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 3: think I prefer Kelsey. There's maybe some recency bias there,

905
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 3: but he's so crafty and you know, I think he's

906
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 3: two for me. A guy that is higher for me

907
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 3: than most is Kittle. I mean, people don't talk about

908
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: him in this light, but I think I'm taking Kittle

909
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 3: over Witten or Gate Shannon Sharp.

910
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: Shannon Sharp just because it's another Gates is another good one.

911
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean just because. And the big reason why

912
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 3: Gronk was number one, it's just his physicality and his block.

913
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I was that was gonna be

914
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 2: my final question. Was I know the answer, But tell

915
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 2: me why Gronk is won. It's because he can do

916
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 2: in the passing game what all these guys did, but

917
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: it was a savant in the run game.

918
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 3: And he's too seventy. And I'm always going to side

919
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 3: for the guy you know that's massive and just doesn't

920
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 3: look like the others, you know, And a crazy thing

921
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 3: about Goronk cause people don't think of him in this light.

922
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 3: If you go look at his like average yards per reception,

923
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 3: it's higher than all these guys, and he's thirty pounds heavier,

924
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 3: and he's a better blocker.

925
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: Take on other team's best edge rushers. Yeah.

926
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 3: I remember being asked when you know, when they were rolling,

927
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 3: who's the best offensive, who's the best non quarterback in

928
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 3: the league. I'm like, it's Gronk, I mean on offense.

929
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 3: You know, it was like Aaron Dawn ordered JJ Watt.

930
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 3: I mean, there's other all time grades.

931
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 2: So I don't know if you've seen he's actually underrated.

932
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 2: I think he's become underrated because of how much credit

933
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 2: Brady gets, how much credit Belichick got, how much Travis

934
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: Kelcey has been at the fourth Rightfully, I'm not any

935
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: of those things. Last thing here, have you seen? I

936
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 2: think you would really like this, have you seen? So

937
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 2: the Pat McAfee show, they've got like some podcasts that

938
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: are related to their shows as well too. So they've

939
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: got like a hockey podcast that's part of the show. Umbrella.

940
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,479
Speaker 2: They've got a sports podcast. So it's not like live

941
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 2: like the McAfee show, but it's part of that family,

942
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 2: part of that Umbrella podcast that they do as well too,

943
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: on hockey, on gambling, on all those kind of things.

944
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 2: A bunch they just started one. It's really cool. And

945
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 2: I think I've told you this before. I normally hate

946
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: Mount Rushmore talk because I think it's like the laziest,

947
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 2: low hanging radio fodder that you can have. I say

948
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: that as a guy who wants to talk about Halloween

949
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: candy at some pointicipate, which is like a well build

950
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: for me, You're ultimate Thanksgiving plate. That's all all uncreative fodder,

951
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: low hanging fruit. But they started a podcast called Mount Rushmore.

952
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: But what they do is they get experts from the

953
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 2: field to on a specific topic. So they did one

954
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: that was Mount Rushmore of most influential bands of all time.

955
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 2: And they brought in like Rick Rubin and the guy

956
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 2: who started Apple Music and the guy who started Interscope Records.

957
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: They did greatest choke Jobs, Mount Rushmore of greatest choke

958
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: jobs in sports history. And they brought in like Bob

959
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 2: Costas and you know, like a bunch of people. So

960
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty cool because it's not just typical

961
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 2: people doing Mount Rushmore talk. It's like, we're going to

962
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: get experts in the field to debate.

963
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 3: This, Like if this was tight end, we'd go get They.

964
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 2: Did a mount rushmore of best receivers in NFL history,

965
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: and they had Tom Brady and Peyton Manning do it.

966
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: And Brady Brady had Gronk on his. He's like, I know,

967
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: technically he's not a receiver, but.

968
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Speaker 3: He's he heard him.

969
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: Like, and I thought that that was obviously that's his teammate,

970
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: that's his guy, Brady's.

971
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 3: Bias like Harrison.

972
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,479
Speaker 2: Harrison was was on Manning's. Jerry Rice was on both

973
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: of theirs. Moss was on both of theirs. I think

974
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: one of them had too, one of them had fits,

975
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: one of them had Calvin Johnson.

976
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 3: No shocking names, no, no.

977
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: No, no, but breaking back. Brady had Gronk on his

978
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: and he made a really good case for it as well, too,

979
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 2: like you would have. I meant to send that to you.

980
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: I was like, Matt would enjoy this conversation between these

981
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 2: two quarterback geeks talking about there more receivers.

982
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 3: And there's some great ones and a lot of them

983
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 3: are more recent.

984
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 2: You know, I think so too. I'm with you on that, Matt.

985
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: That'll do it for today, good stuff. Good show, had

986
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Speaker 2: a lot of fun. Tomorrow will be a lot of

987
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: fun as well too, as we'll start talking some colts,

988
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 2: we'll do some around the NFL, we'll do around campus

989
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 2: and best of the West, all that good stuff on

990
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Speaker 2: a Wednesday. Big thanks to Chris Danski for joining us

991
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Speaker 2: in a shout out to our video producer mister TV

992
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Speaker 2: Tyler V himself for making us look handsome on the

993
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Speaker 2: YouTube's Take care everybody, and we'll talk to you tomorrow.

994
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995
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