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Speaker 2: Matt Mosley, Matt, how are you today?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll do it fine, doing just fine, and it

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Speaker 4: was excited to get to be with you. And no

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Speaker 4: man knows the PAC twelve quite like you do. So

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Speaker 4: the demise of the PAC twelve, Uh, of course it

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Speaker 4: helps one conference, or actually two conferences, and then we

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Speaker 4: see sadly one conference school away.

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Speaker 1: So this has been kind of shocking.

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Speaker 4: I guess we shouldn't be shocked by realignment, but it

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Speaker 4: has felt yesterday things were moving so quickly, even by

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Speaker 4: realignment standards, it was pretty remarkable days. So Yeah, I've

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Speaker 4: been excited to visit with you about all of this stuff.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what, Matt. As you mentioned, I

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Speaker 2: of course raised in this conference. My father went to USC,

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Speaker 2: my mother went to use CLA. I want to use CLA.

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Speaker 2: It is a conference that I have followed for my

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Speaker 2: entire life, literally going back to the sixties when it

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Speaker 2: was the aa WU, before it became the Pack eight,

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Speaker 2: the PAC ten, the Pac twelve, and now the Pack

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Speaker 2: four soon to be the Pack zero. You know, this

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Speaker 2: is a crazy time in college sports, especially the college

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Speaker 2: football landscape. And man, I know you're a big college

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Speaker 2: football fan. I'm a big college football fan who's not

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Speaker 2: a big college football fan. And we knew this was coming.

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Speaker 2: I will tell you this, Matt, more than twenty years ago,

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Speaker 2: more than twenty years ago, on my radio show, I

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Speaker 2: predicted that eventually what was then just Division one football,

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Speaker 2: before we had FBSFCS and all this, that eventually we

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Speaker 2: would have a dwindling of schools down about sixty four

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Speaker 2: to eighty that would be deemed the elite, and that

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Speaker 2: they would be divided into four conferences north, South, East, West,

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Speaker 2: and that was going to be the eventual alignment of

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Speaker 2: college football. People goes, ah, you got one hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty FBS schools. I said, not for long, because eventually

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Speaker 2: money takes over. And it really is a series of

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Speaker 2: factors here when we talk about the money, Matt and

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Speaker 2: again the final offer from the commission at Kleokov.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I feel sorry for this guy.

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Speaker 2: Guy's getting a lot of heat the back twelve commissioner,

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Speaker 2: and he's like Herbert Hoover blaming Hoover Hoover for the depression,

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Speaker 2: right because he inherited a mess and the whole thing

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Speaker 2: caved under his watch. Larry Scott is the real culprit

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Speaker 2: here that undermined the whole future of this conference. If

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Speaker 2: anyone's to blame for the debacle that is today, it

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Speaker 2: is him. But you know, when you think about where

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Speaker 2: we're going in college football, name, image and likeness. I

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Speaker 2: said it before. I said it at the time when

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Speaker 2: people dismissed it as nothing more than some you know,

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Speaker 2: sort of California gimmick. At the time, the California was

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Speaker 2: going to be the one school that was going to

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Speaker 2: get involved in this, or one state, and I said,

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Speaker 2: this is going to be nationwide and eventually every one

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Speaker 2: of these top players is going to be looking for

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Speaker 2: huge paydays and that's where we are right now, Matt.

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Speaker 2: So you know, Cleifcock came in with some twenty million

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Speaker 2: dollars per school offer and everyone's like, that's not going

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Speaker 2: to cut it, and he knew it. He basically said,

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Speaker 2: exactly what happened yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Although yesterday morning, you know, reporters and I can't believe

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Speaker 4: on to it. And apparently, I guess the Big ten said, hey, reminder,

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Speaker 4: I think Clifkoff did does deserve his fair share of blame.

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Speaker 4: And so I think I think Cliff Cough, while I

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Speaker 4: agree Larry Scott deserves a lot of the blame. Cliff

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Speaker 1: And every time you hear one of.

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Speaker 4: These conference commissioners say something along the lines of, oh,

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Speaker 4: I don't lose any sleepover realignment, you better watch it's

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Speaker 4: about to happen. Bob Bowlsby said that in the Big

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Speaker 4: or two after that. And it's just they just don't

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Speaker 4: It's hard to believe you can't see it coming when

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Speaker 4: it's been happening so often. So I do think George

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Speaker 4: Klifkoff deserves plenty of blame here.

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Speaker 2: All right, So now the question is movie before, what

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Speaker 2: does this mean for Stanford, cow Washington State, and Oregon State.

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Speaker 2: So the way I've been and I've been on the

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Speaker 2: phone talking to a number of people over the last

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Speaker 2: twenty four hours, so the most likely scenario here as

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Speaker 2: far as those schools are concerned, is some kind of

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Speaker 2: merger with the schools in the Mountain West Conference and

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Speaker 2: then on top of that bringing in schools like SMU

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Speaker 2: West Coast, not ACC AAC. Which is interesting as well, Matt,

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Speaker 2: because we are looking forward to the expanded playoff of

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Speaker 2: twelve schools in twenty twenty four. But we got a

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Speaker 2: problem because the format for that playoff was the sixth

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Speaker 2: then the next six highest ranked schools. Well, whatever realignment,

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Speaker 2: the Pack four plus Mountain West plus a couple other

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Speaker 2: the Big Twelve, the Big Ten, and the SEC. So

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Speaker 2: they may want to relook at the formatting of that

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Speaker 2: get the best schools in there. Can we throw a

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Speaker 2: bone to one of the other schools? Sure, that's fine,

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Speaker 2: you know, if they have an undefeated season or whatever, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: let one of them in. But they may have to

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Speaker 4: The format has to get changed. You're absolutely right, and

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Speaker 4: they'll look at it and they'll change it to whoever

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Speaker 4: they'll get this thing figured out. But you're absolutely right,

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Speaker 4: they have to address it. And to your point, it

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Speaker 4: really is the team. I feel bad for all those

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Speaker 4: To me, it's always been growing up in Texas, kind

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Speaker 4: that's what's happened to Stanford, And with its academics and

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Speaker 4: believe that, you know, it hadn't. They didn't have anybody

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Speaker 4: And as you said, maybe it's a Mountain West aac

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Speaker 4: wherever they end up, but you can't form a conference

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Speaker 1: That does not seem realistic.

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Speaker 2: of the Mountain West Conference with San Diego State.

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Speaker 2: Leaving a lot of rumors that it was going to

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Speaker 3: But there was a buy out of like thirty four.

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Speaker 2: Well, that might be a moot point, but what I

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Speaker 2: understand is is that if nine or more schools all

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Speaker 2: different situation in terms of how much money has to

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Speaker 2: kind of merger. I don't know what they're going to

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Speaker 2: The Way tire buying should be so, Matt. The last

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Speaker 4: They're already working on a new logo. They were doing

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, BYU and Utah play every year anyway,

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Speaker 2: I'm losing camp at all these schools. But is there

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Speaker 4: I mean, Arizona State should just hang on and be

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Speaker 4: which is bad because the Big Twelve teams were begging

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Speaker 4: He merged with like the Big ten at acc in

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Speaker 2: All right, So when this is all settled, as we

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Speaker 1: Matt?

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, why if you have eighteen schools

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Speaker 3: And the Big twelve wasn't around that long. It used

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Speaker 2: Can we just completely change the entire moniker for these Iowa, Sam,

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Speaker 1: You have?

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Speaker 2: You got a horse in the race with Iowa and

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Speaker 2: the Big Ten, and Iowa stayed in the Big twelve.

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, now, well, you gotta change these

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I've been thinking a lot about this, and I was

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Speaker 7: the way. Yeah, okay, so here we go. I got

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Speaker 7: a bunch here a right ready for this. The Big

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Speaker 7: Tent Conference. How about that the Big Tent You just

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Speaker 7: I'm not done Big Tent conference, all right? Or we

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Speaker 2: Else, because when you say Conference USA, they're gonna associate

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Speaker 2: here we go the Pan American Conference.

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Speaker 7: The pan AM Conference might be a trademark problem there

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Speaker 7: with the PanAm airlines. How about this Continental Breakfast Conference?

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Speaker 7: We got North American Athletics Conference or knack Coast to

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Speaker 7: the the mac Money above All conference. Okay, okay, those

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Speaker 7: Big Tent.

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Speaker 3: How about Big ten?

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Speaker 1: We know that they're jokes, Okay, Yeah, seriously.

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Speaker 3: How about the Bigger than ten conference.

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Speaker 4: Well, you do need to leave it open. I mean

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Speaker 4: You just sits there and it doesn't matter how many

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Speaker 4: The problem is you can't like regionalize this.

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Speaker 2: Well, how about northeast, West South? I mean, just make

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Speaker 4: I mean, we're already losing enough of our history and

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Speaker 4: They're not gonna they're never gonna change it from the

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Speaker 4: Like there's no way in the world with Ohio State, Michigan,

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Speaker 4: So I promise you that will never change. Okay, I

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Speaker 4: twey more open for discussion because, as you said, it's

438
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Speaker 4: a newer name, and they have a commissioner who's always

439
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Speaker 4: up to something, and he loves branding, and he likes

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Speaker 4: getting younger and hipper, and so a young man of

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Speaker 4: like Sam's age or Chris is or some of our

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Speaker 4: guys Brandon, I don't know how old brand he's a kid.

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Speaker 4: He's a young guy. That's a young guy, that's a

444
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Speaker 4: very young guy. Something that they might that whatever that

445
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Speaker 4: millennials or whatever they are, something that they might relate to.

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Speaker 4: The Big twelve could change. The Big ten will never change.

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Speaker 4: And I think Iowa Sam would probably even though he's

448
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Speaker 4: come up with this wonderful list of names. I think

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Speaker 4: by the way, you're borrowing borrowing from like radio, is

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Speaker 4: it like Coast to Coast a show or something that's

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Speaker 4: a radio.

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Speaker 3: George Norri, Right, yeah, yeah, he's upstairs door. No, Matt,

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Speaker 3: You're absolutely right. Listen.

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Speaker 7: You could say there's the ten best teams in the

455
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Speaker 7: Big ten are the Big ten and the eight beyond them,

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Speaker 7: you know, the bottom sie. So why don't they have

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Speaker 7: it the Big ten and eight?

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Speaker 3: Others?

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Speaker 2: Conferences I don't know, it's a Big ten plus eight.

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Speaker 2: I mean something along those lines. All I know, every

461
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Speaker 2: time they talk about well you're you're taken away from tradition,

462
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Speaker 2: their argument is then start a new tradition. That's what

463
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Speaker 2: the new wave says to you. If you're one of

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Speaker 2: those that's bent on preserving tradition, their retort is start

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Speaker 2: a neutral.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, I think there are younger folks who

467
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Speaker 4: are fine, and Iowa Sam and others who grew up

468
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Speaker 4: on Big ten footballs, they're not not No, I don't

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Speaker 4: think they're exceptions. I think there are a lot of

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Speaker 4: people out there that age that are fine keeping you

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Speaker 4: what it is. There's no way that by the Big

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Speaker 4: ten doesn't change. I think there's a better there's a

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Speaker 4: chance that the Big twelve, even with sixteen teams, just

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Speaker 4: stays right there, at least until the next media rights deal.

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Speaker 4: Think you change the day?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 2: Well, Well, on the other side, I want to share

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Speaker 2: a moment with Matt. He went to somewhere that's near

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Speaker 2: Kevin Whitt is here, but you're exiting almost the second

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Speaker 2: you're done with work today?

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Speaker 8: Is that? I mean?

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Speaker 9: I'm heading up to camp in northern California, Ryan, as

489
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Speaker 9: soon as nice is over here, it's gonna be a

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Speaker 9: lot of fun on the lake, plenty of beer in hand.

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Speaker 9: It's gonna be a fun time. It helps me forget

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Speaker 9: about the death bells tolling in the pact well, because

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Speaker 9: as a West Coast guy growing up, it was a

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Speaker 9: lot of fun watching all that college football, and having

495
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Speaker 9: lived in North Carolina on the East Coast for five years,

496
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Speaker 9: I grew to appreciate those late night kickoffs because I'm

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Speaker 9: an insomniac and at the morning.

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Speaker 2: You're still gonna get the late night kickoffs, but they're

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Speaker 2: going to be spread all over the map.

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Speaker 3: In terms of conference affiliation.

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Speaker 9: Our schools like say you know, Ohio State, Michigan, Penns,

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Speaker 9: they are they gonna be willing to play at ten

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Speaker 9: o'clock Eastern time. I mean, yeah, they might get some

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Speaker 9: pushback on that. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait for those Rutgers road trips that the

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Speaker 2: Pacific north West to Oregon and Washington.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna be great.

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Speaker 9: I mean, isn't that what you signed up for when

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Speaker 9: you played for u C l A U cl usc

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Speaker 9: USCLA is.

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Speaker 3: Going to Rutgers.

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Speaker 2: I'm seriously, the idea of going into Columbus, into the

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Speaker 2: Horseshoe and late November is not does not bode well

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Speaker 2: for UCLA football promise, especially.

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Speaker 9: Since the Big Ten is now having night games in November,

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Speaker 9: which was a policy of there's because of those cold temperatures.

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Speaker 9: But uh yeah, at times they are certainly a change in,

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Speaker 9: aren't they. So yeah, the death bell's tolling for the

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Speaker 9: Pac twelve, Oregon and Washington accepting invitations to join the

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Speaker 9: Big Ten for the twenty twenty four season, and the

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Speaker 9: conference is just circling the drain. And because of that,

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Speaker 9: Arizona Arizona State in Utah at least felt like they

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Speaker 9: had no choice, so they applied for they were unanimously

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Speaker 9: approved to join the Big Twelve. So right now it's

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Speaker 9: just California, Stanford, Oregon State, Washington State that's left and

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Speaker 9: for what is at least now known as the PAC twelve.

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Speaker 9: Florida State on the East coast has also been making

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Speaker 9: some rumblings. They're not very happy with their situation, and

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Speaker 9: while the granted rights possibly keeps them walked into the

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Speaker 9: ACC until twenty thirty six, they've been talking about finding

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Speaker 9: ways to get around that. So the situation in college

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Speaker 9: athletics is still incredibly fluid. Major League Baseball, we had

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Speaker 9: two games go final. Yankees over the Astros three to one.

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Speaker 9: The Tigers beat the Rays four to two. A few

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Speaker 9: other games going on right now. Cubs leading the Braves

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Speaker 9: seven to the Braves clawing back slowly. The Cubs jumped

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Speaker 9: out to a five to dozing lead, and it's been

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Speaker 9: a slow comeback attempt by Atlanta. They now the base

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Speaker 9: is loaded to out in the top of the six innings,

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Speaker 9: so they are threatening a couple other actually three other

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Speaker 9: games just getting started. They're in the top of the

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Speaker 9: second inning in Cincinnati, Nationals leading the Reds won nothing.

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Speaker 9: Blue Jays and Red Side tied at Fenway. Same with

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Speaker 9: the Marlins and Rangers. They are also scoreless coming up

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Speaker 9: at six o'clock Eastern. That's the next game on the schedule.

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Speaker 9: That would be the Royals and Phillies in Philadelphia. Everything

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Speaker 9: else coming up later tonight. Women's World Cup action, Spain

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Speaker 9: knocking out Switzerland from the tournament a five to one win.

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Speaker 9: They advanced to the quarterfinals. Same for Japan. They bounced

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Speaker 9: Norway three to one and when more Round of sixteen

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Speaker 9: match set for tonight, the Netherlands will face South Africa.

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Speaker 9: Kickoff set for ten o'clock Eastern on Fox.

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Speaker 6: As for the.

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Speaker 9: Women's national team, they'll technically be tomorrow because of that

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Speaker 9: time chift forward, so it'll be a Sunday game. But

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Speaker 9: the women's national team they'll face off against Sweden. Kickoff

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Speaker 9: for that one is for five o'clock tomorrow morning Eastern time,

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Speaker 9: and that'll be seen on Fox and an NFL news

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Speaker 9: Saints head coach Dennis Allen saying that running back you know,

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Speaker 9: Benjamin has been diagnosed with a torn achilees, so this

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Speaker 9: season likely over and with al the Kamara being suspended

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Speaker 9: for three games, that running back room in New Orleans

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Speaker 9: looking a little thin.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, guys, Hi Kevin, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: We'll check in with you a little bit later on

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Speaker 2: once again, Steve hartmin Matt Mosley with you Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: We're coming live from the tai Iraq dot Com studio. So, Matt,

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Speaker 2: I understand you out at Cowboys camp in Oxnard. I

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Speaker 2: got to give you a little background here. I'm always

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Speaker 2: dating myself on this show. Just you know, you've been

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Speaker 2: around a long time like me. I remember when the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys were still training at Cal Lutheran in Thousand Oaks.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I went out there in the early eighties

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Speaker 2: when I first started in a behind the scenes job

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Speaker 2: in radio and actually met and sat in the office

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Speaker 2: of Tom Landry way back in the day.

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Speaker 3: Then I worked for the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: I joined the Raider organization nineteen eighty four, the LA Raiders.

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Speaker 2: In the following year, the Raiders moved their training camp

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Speaker 2: from Santa Rosa to Oxnard.

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Speaker 3: First couple of years we didn't even.

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Speaker 2: Really have a full facility at sort of these shifts

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Speaker 2: practice fields for a couple of years. But I remember

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Speaker 2: the idea was is that the Cowboys train in Ventura

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Speaker 2: County and ox nart is also in Ventura County. But

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Speaker 2: the climate in these two places could not be any

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Speaker 2: more different. Thousand Oaks is a heat box during the summer.

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Speaker 2: Oxnart is by the water, and I remember Matt the

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Speaker 2: very first year that we train in Oxnard, it was

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Speaker 2: so cold during the started training camp that literally on

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Speaker 2: the sidelines we were wearing coats. And we opened up

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Speaker 2: the preseason against the forty nine ers. I don't think

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Speaker 2: we had actually broken a sweat yet in Oxnard, and

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Speaker 2: we got hammered in that first preseason game. So for

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys to eventually end up in Oxnard seemed shocking

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Speaker 2: to me.

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Speaker 3: But how was your trip to Oxnard?

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Speaker 2: And you know, the Cowboys America's team on people think

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Speaker 2: Yearning year out easily the most overrated over hype team

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Speaker 2: considering how long it's been, even since they've been in

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Speaker 2: a conference championship game.

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Speaker 3: But how is your Oxnard experience?

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Speaker 4: Always nice? And to escape the Texas heat, it is

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Speaker 4: wonderful to get out there. I just I think about

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Speaker 4: Al Davis when you talk about the Raiders nineteen eighty four.

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Speaker 4: I just cannot even imagine what that was like to

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Speaker 4: be around him when he was still kind of in

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Speaker 4: his prime. And you think five years later when Jerry

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Speaker 4: Jones came into the league.

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Speaker 1: That was his guy.

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Speaker 4: Al kind of taught him how to go against the league.

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Speaker 4: I think Jerry already had a streak of sort of

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Speaker 4: being a maverick, but he and Al Davis became fast friends,

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Speaker 4: and he kind of really looked up to it in

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Speaker 4: some ways worshiped Al Davis, and I think it's it's

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Speaker 4: always been interesting because I think Jerry's the closest thing

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Speaker 4: to Al.

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Speaker 3: A quick story with.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna have to. So I joined the Raiders

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Speaker 2: in eighty four. They had just won the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: their third Super Bowl, winning eighteen years. By the way,

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Speaker 2: They've been suffering from the Hartman Jinks ever since and

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Speaker 2: not won another Super Bowl. But they're coming out the

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Speaker 2: demolition of the then Redskins and Super Bowl eighteen. So in

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Speaker 2: the nineteen eighty four season, I joined them in July.

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Speaker 2: Did not really have any contact with mister Davis because

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Speaker 2: he had been up in Santa Rosa with the team

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Speaker 2: in training camp. We opened the season in Houston at

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Speaker 2: the Astrodome against the Oilers. It was Warren Moon's debut

630
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Speaker 2: in the NFL, coming down from the Canadian Football League.

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Speaker 2: Earl Campbell was still a Oiler back in the day.

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Speaker 2: I remember being on the field that the Astrodome could

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Speaker 2: not believe they were playing on this field. It was

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Speaker 2: like a pool tablecloth directly on cement.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was no cushion. Crazy.

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Speaker 2: I also remember getting up to the press box thinking

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Speaker 2: are they are they going to turn on the lights

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Speaker 2: in this place? It was dim, it was dreary. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting there and we only had eight people in

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Speaker 2: the entire front office of the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: And I'm the kid. You know, I'm twenty six years old.

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Speaker 2: So I am seated five seats from Al Davis in

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Speaker 2: the press box at the Astrodome, and honestly, I have

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Speaker 2: very little contact with him when I got hired. So

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting there and you know, the game was it

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Speaker 2: was one side. The Raiders are winning easily. The Oilers

647
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Speaker 2: were terrible. And I started looking over at Al Davis

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Speaker 2: and instead of looking at the field, he starts looking

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Speaker 2: at me, and he gave you that gave me that look, Matt.

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Speaker 3: It's like, who the f are you?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 2: At least in my mind, I'm like he And so

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Speaker 2: I peeked down a couple other times. He kept looking

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Speaker 2: at me, and so I'm seated next to a guy

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Speaker 2: who've been with the Raiders for many years. I go,

656
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: I mister Davis keeps looking at me. He goes, no, no, no, dude,

657
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: he's just effing with you. He's just effing with you.

658
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 2: I go, really, So I'm sitting there and all of

659
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: a sudden, I look over one more time and mister

660
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Speaker 2: Davis leans back and starts pointing his finger toward himself, like,

661
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 2: come over here. So I get out of my seat

662
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: and I walked down to his left side. He's looking

663
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 2: straight at He's not even looking at me, and he goes, uh,

664
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Speaker 2: get me a hot dog and dot coke.

665
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Speaker 3: And he's not even looking at me.

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Speaker 1: Right.

667
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: So I'm standing there and I'm like, okay, and I

668
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: go into the id.

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Speaker 3: Does he want something on the dog?

670
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: You know?

671
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 3: I get the little packets.

672
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Speaker 2: Some of astrodom didn't have much as far as food,

673
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Speaker 2: but there was a hot dog, you know, and I

674
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Speaker 2: got him a die coke.

675
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Speaker 3: I put it down.

676
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 2: He didn't even turn around nothing, and I went back

677
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: to my seat. So the game ends and everyone else

678
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: is heading down to the field. I'm the rookie, so

679
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: I got to collect stat sheets and everything else, and

680
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 2: this is back in the Stone Age, right back in

681
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four. I go back to where mister Davis

682
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: had been sitting. Not one bite out of the hot dog,

683
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Speaker 2: not one.

684
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 3: S out of that die Cod never touched them.

685
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 2: So that was my introduction to working for a man

686
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 2: like mister Davis, who, as you said, was still obviously

687
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: very much in the prime of his life at that time.

688
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: I can share thousands of stories someday I'll write the book, but.

689
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 3: I know this.

690
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: He was a huge fan of Jerry Jones, no question

691
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 2: about that. So they do have that common bond of

692
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 2: being not only the owner but the slash general manager

693
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: of the team as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Jerry has I think, more sense of urgency

695
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 4: than ever. Jerry is doing fine physically, and he may

696
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 4: live until he's ninety five, but Jerry really desperately wants

697
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 4: to get back to where he was in the nineties

698
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 4: because he knows, even all these years later, people still think, Okay,

699
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 4: you never could do it without Jimmy Jimmy's players. Of course,

700
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 4: even after Jimmy left, they won one more Super Bowl,

701
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 4: but that was a team Jimmy had helped put together,

702
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,919
Speaker 4: and so Jerry wants to do it on his own.

703
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 4: He's got a lot of help. And by the way,

704
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 4: they've won a lot of games recently. I mean, when

705
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 4: you win twelve games what in a couple of straight seasons,

706
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 4: it's not like they're not winning. But they can't get

707
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 4: past the forty nine ers. And it is funny how

708
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 4: all these years later you still run into these rivalries.

709
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 4: All the people change, the names change and everything. The

710
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 4: organizations though, the colors of the teams they don't change,

711
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 4: and they and the Cowboys cannot get over the hump

712
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 4: and get past San Francisco. And the latest is Mike

713
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 4: McCarthy will now call plays, and that is their sort

714
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 4: of answer to the way. We think we could maybe

715
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 4: finally get over the hump and get Dak Prescott to

716
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 4: where we think he can take us. And I think

717
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 4: the verdict still out is to Dak. Is he true

718
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 4: truly an elite great quarterback? I think he's an elite leader.

719
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 4: But boy, he showed. He showed. It was really a

720
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 4: rough deal for him last year with all those interceptions

721
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 4: and everything. So it was it was a fun camp.

722
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 4: It was interesting to watch. I came back. I may

723
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 4: run back out there to check on things, but I

724
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 4: would say they're they're pretty much stacked. I mean, there's

725
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 4: not a lot of teams in the NFC other than

726
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Speaker 4: maybe the Eagles. I mean, there's not a lot of

727
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 4: teams that match up with him. Now, there would be

728
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 4: in the AFC, of course, but in the NFC. I mean,

729
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 4: there's no reason in the world the Cowboys can't be

730
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Speaker 4: in the mix.

731
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Speaker 2: Well, Matt, since I lived down the road in Westlake

732
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Speaker 2: Village at the other end of Interura County, you can

733
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 2: stop on buy the house. Okay, you can stop, buy

734
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: the house. Come on on the other side. I want

735
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 2: to get a breakdown with Matt as we look at

736
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 2: this NFC East. Are the Eagles the prohibitive favorite? Should

737
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,720
Speaker 2: they be the prohibitive favorite? Because a lot of history

738
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: says there's no way the Eagles are gonna win the

739
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: NFC East this year. This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harvin, M. Mosley,

740
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday. We're coming live from the tai Iraq

741
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Speaker 2: dot Com studios.

742
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Speaker 3: It has been.

743
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: Nineteen years since the NFC East has had a repeat champion.

744
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 2: The Eagles rattled off four in a row from one

745
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 2: to four, but since then, back to back NFC East

746
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: titles has not been in the cards. I keep looking

747
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: at the Cowboys matt as a team, like, aren't they

748
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 2: overdue for a breakout?

749
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: Yere?

750
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Speaker 2: I mean, look at the Eagles, right they win the

751
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Three years later they have completely imploded. And

752
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: then a couple of years later with Jalen Hurts that

753
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 2: nobody could have predicted it would be the dominant force

754
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: he's becoming the NFL and Nick Siriani, Nick Siriani, and

755
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 2: they're right back in the Super Bowl and only a

756
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 2: fluky fumble away from maybe winning another Super Bowl. Do

757
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: you ever sense that, maybe, just make maybe this could

758
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: be the year for the Cowboys in that division and

759
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: maybe even winning a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the Cowboys don't have a problem winning division titles.

761
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 4: We talk about how long it's been since they've been

762
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 4: in an nc NFC title game, which is forever Ago

763
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 4: got to go all the way back to nineteen ninety five.

764
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 4: It's ridiculous. But they've won plenty of division titles. They

765
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 4: I mean, they're coming off a couple of seasons where

766
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 4: they've won a lot of games. I mean twelve wins,

767
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 4: I think twelve wins, eleven or twelve wins the season before,

768
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 4: so I don't. But again, nobody at this point cares

769
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Speaker 4: about that.

770
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: Could they win the division over the Eagles? Yeah, yeah,

772
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 4: I mean I think they're in position too. I think

773
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 4: they match up pretty well against the Eagles. I just

774
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 4: think the Eagles right now, you have to say they

775
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 4: have the advantage of quarterback and Hurts is I mean,

776
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 4: he's on his way with how you performed last season

777
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Speaker 4: to becoming the greatest quarterback and Eagles history.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

779
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 4: Some people would already try to make that argument. But

780
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 4: he's headed that way, absolutely he is. And and right now,

781
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 4: the Cowboys problem is they don't win the quarterback matchup

782
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 4: in these enormous games. I mean, he was matched up

783
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 4: with Rock Purdy and you knew going into the game

784
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 4: that the Cowboys did not have that great of a shot.

785
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Speaker 1: That's a bad thing for the Cowboys.

786
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Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna have much more NFL talks throughout

787
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Speaker 2: the show today. Also, we got to get into MLB.

788
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Speaker 2: The aos is getting interesting and it was a big

789
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Speaker 2: day in Cantohio.

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Speaker 3: We got it all covered for you. This is Fox

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Speaker 3: Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: over the map, all the different NFL training camps. He'll

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Speaker 2: break us, break it all down, get his inside on

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Speaker 2: the NFL, of course. Matt earlier today in an endless ceremony,

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Speaker 2: they're in Canton, Ohio. Nine new inductees into the Pro

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Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame. Now, I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: know this about me, Map, but I'm I'm a little

811
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Speaker 2: obsessed with Hall of Fames in general.

812
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 3: It's sort of been my hobby over the years.

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Speaker 2: The whole process for almost every Hall of Fame out

814
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Speaker 2: there conceivable. There's an argument about the Pro Football Hall

815
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 2: of Fame with nine new inductees is that you just

816
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: have too many people going into the Hall of Fame.

817
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 2: Dion's Sanders called this out a couple years ago, saying

818
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: there should be sort of like a upper room for

819
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 2: the truly elite hall of famers, which sort of kills

820
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Speaker 2: the idea of being name to the Hall of Fame

821
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Speaker 2: if you're like on the lower level, which basically says

822
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Speaker 2: you should never have been in the Hall of Fame

823
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Speaker 2: to begin with. I'm pretty strict in my rules about

824
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. I put it this way. If

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00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 2: you give me a name on whether this person belongs

826
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Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame, and I have to think

827
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Speaker 2: about it even for a second, they're not a Hall

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Speaker 2: of Famer. To me, all Hall of famers should be

829
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Speaker 2: no brainers, like you say, the name hall of Fame.

830
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Speaker 2: If I have to like hmmm, or if you have

831
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Speaker 2: to sort of make an argument why this person is

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Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame, then in my opinion, you're

833
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Speaker 2: not a Hall of Famer. What is your thought about

834
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 2: the inclusion of so many in the Pro football Hall

835
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Speaker 2: of Fame.

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Speaker 4: Well, it certainly seems like it's way harder to get

837
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 4: in baseball sometimes. I mean, if you don't get enough

838
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 4: votes there, they just won't have a ceremony that year,

839
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 4: you know, they're not. I mean pro football is, we're

840
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 4: gonna have a ceremony every year. We're gonna at least

841
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 4: get five or six. Generally, I think there's a pretty

842
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 4: good pool. I like the old timer players that end

843
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 4: up coming back and getting in. Like I, to me,

844
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 4: Chuck Halle is a no brainer. Well has he been

845
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 4: a no brainer for like fifty or sixty years or

846
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 4: however long it's been since he was playing forty something

847
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 4: years ago? You know, again, he was a super Bowl MVP,

848
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 4: was a Super Bowl champion. So I sometimes love when

849
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 4: they come back and get things right all these years later.

850
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Speaker 4: But there may be some that you're like, I'm not

851
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 4: sure if that person should have gone through. But for

852
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 4: the most part, I mean, they made Michael Irvin wait

853
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 4: a few times. I mean I think they made DeMarcus

854
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 4: Ware went in this time. Yeah, he had to wait

855
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 4: a little bit. I mean there's some people to me

856
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 4: that feel like no brainers. Maybe I'm too close to

857
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 4: some of these cowboys teams, but that don't get in

858
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 4: and they have to wait a little bit. And I

859
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 4: don't think that's all bad. If you have to wait

860
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 4: but I don't really look at the Pro Football Hall

861
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 4: of Fame and go, oh, there's just way too many

862
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 4: people in there, or they need an upper room. It's

863
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Speaker 4: rare when I have a thought like, oh my gosh,

864
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Speaker 4: they let that guy in. I mean, sometimes you can

865
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Speaker 4: speak to longevity and go, well, what if I mean

866
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 4: the guy was only great? You know the Terrell Davis

867
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 4: kind of argument, he was only great for like five

868
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 4: or six seasons. Well if they were, if it was

869
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 4: like Sayers or you know somebody like that who just

870
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 4: did burn Bright for five to seven years, I mean,

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Speaker 4: that's kind of think about the running back position now,

872
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 4: that's how we think of it. It's basically they have

873
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 4: about a five year window and then they can't get

874
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 4: paid anymore, and then basically their careers are over. So

875
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 4: I'm with you. I like the I like it being

876
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 4: hard to get in. But I can't say, like, if

877
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 4: I looked at this class today, I don't have it

878
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 4: in front of me. I'd have a hard time saying

879
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 4: one of these one of these guys didn't deserve it.

880
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: Well, or does he deserve to be in.

881
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 2: One guy that did get in was Ken Riley, who

882
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 2: played cornerback for the Bengals for fifteen years, and he

883
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: had a very interesting career in the fact that his

884
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: only time he was named First team All Pro was

885
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: his last season, which is pretty remarkable. He also was

886
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 2: never once named to a Pro Bowl. I mean, let's

887
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 2: just think about that. And what even made it more

888
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 2: interesting was his teammate for most of those years of

889
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 2: the Bengals was a cornerback name Lamar.

890
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 3: Parrish, who was named eight Pro Bowls.

891
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: He's not in the Hall of Fame and the guy

892
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: who was in no Pro Bowls got into the Hall

893
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 2: of Fame. I just again, I tend I'm not one

894
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: hundred percent in lockstep to say the least with Dion

895
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: Sanders on much of what he says. But I just

896
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 2: think again and look at it's a marketing tool for

897
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 2: the NFL. Everything's a marketing tool for the NFL. They're

898
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,479
Speaker 2: expanding how many seniors get in. By the way Chuck

899
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 2: Halley should have been in years ago, I'm one hundred percent.

900
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 2: For years I've been screaming about Chuck Halley. I mean,

901
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 2: he was a multi time All Pro player during the sixties,

902
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 2: Super Bowl MVP, a Super Bowl five. This guy should

903
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: have been in the Hall of Fame. He slipped through

904
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 2: the cracks.

905
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 4: So I want to go look at the end of

906
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 4: Riley's career. I mean, what it's crazy year.

907
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 2: If that he intercept aass is his last year, think

908
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: about that in his fifteenth year. I mean, he's on

909
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: the all time interceptional list. But you know that's a

910
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: very deceiving stat In other words, if you have a

911
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl corner on one side, guess what side they're

912
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 2: going to throw the ball two more the Ken Riley side,

913
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: and so he's going to get more opportunities.

914
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 3: This is not that he wasn't a good player.

915
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: That's what they measure those. I mean, like the interceptions

916
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: are huge.

917
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 4: Like the Cowboys had a great defensive back named Cornell

918
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 4: Green yep. I mean he was one of the greatest

919
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 4: to ever do it. He dropped, he didn't have good hands,

920
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 4: he was an unbelievable But I mean, and who knows

921
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 4: how many interceptions he ended up with. I would guess

922
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 4: somewhere around thirty five to forty career interceptions. I think

923
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 4: he could have had about eighty or ninety.

924
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: Of course, they had mel Renfro at the time, who

925
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 2: was a legitimate Hall of Fame player. Yeah, yeah, look

926
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 2: at it. I always say this about the Pro Football

927
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. Football is such a unique sport in

928
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,959
Speaker 2: being in the right place at the right time. Half

929
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 2: of the guys that are in the Pro Football Hall

930
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 2: of Fame players are there because they just were that.

931
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 3: Good, you know, like you know, the Jim Browns. I mean,

932
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 3: these guys were just that good.

933
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 2: The other half, they're there because they were in the

934
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: right place at the right time.

935
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I think you're thinking of the Steelers, well.

936
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 3: A lot of the Steelers. Look.

937
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 2: Troy Aikman is one of my all time favorites just

938
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: as a person. I've interviewed Troy on dozens of occasions. Obviously,

939
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: he went to UCLA. His two years of UCLA, both

940
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 2: years he lost to USC. You look at his career

941
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 2: numbers as a quarterback, they're very pedestrian. In his years

942
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 2: with the Cowboys. The good news for him his numbers

943
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 2: were better when he got into the postseason.

944
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 3: But he won three Super Bowls. So he won three

945
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 3: Super Bowls.

946
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: You're going to be what he was a first ballot

947
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, But at any point of his career

948
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 2: was he one of the top three quarterbacks in the League.

949
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 3: Statistically, the answer is no. But you know, right he

950
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 3: was time.

951
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 4: He wasn't even required to throw it in the second

952
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 4: half of most of those games. Sure, they were just

953
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 4: handing it to immittt. So I would argue that he

954
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 4: was during those great years of the nineties, was a

955
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 4: top three quarterback. The numbers might not bear that out,

956
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 4: but to your point, I mean there's guys like Lynn

957
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 4: swan in Stallworth, Yes, and tons of those receivers who

958
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 4: their numbers now look ridiculous, But that's just the way

959
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 4: the game was, you know, at that point. And they

960
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 4: won no Super Bowls. I mean, the Cowboys would have

961
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 4: had even more players back then had they won more

962
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 4: than the two Super Bowls under Landry And if you

963
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 4: think about it, Chuck Noll and the Steelers won, I

964
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 4: mean those games in the seventies. If it had gone

965
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 4: the other way, a couple of Super Bowls, the Cowboys

966
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 4: would have had several more players in Still, they have

967
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 4: plenty of players.

968
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's like tried to do.

969
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 4: You know, if they tried to keep Cowboys or Steelers

970
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 4: or anybody out, they haven't done a great job.

971
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 2: Well, what did you think about Drew Pearson. I mean,

972
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 2: obviously he cried the first time, and it was you know,

973
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: he was making you know, And the next year they

974
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: gave him the phone call, and he's in the Hall

975
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 2: of Fame.

976
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 3: I mean, once you're in, you're in.

977
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 2: I remember for years I would go to Super Bowl

978
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 2: sites interviewing poor Jerry Kramer, like the last guy from

979
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 2: the Lombardi Packers, who has voted the greatest offensive guard

980
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 2: of the first fifty years of the NFL, and he

981
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 2: was being bypassed year after year after year after year

982
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 2: after year. Fortunately for him he lived long enough to

983
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 2: actually see that day. But I don't know, I mean literally, Matt,

984
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 2: I must have had dozens of interviews with a very

985
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 2: nice man just saying it's going to be next year, Jerry,

986
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 2: I promise you. How about something like this, This idea

987
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: of constantly putting off guys year after year after year,

988
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 2: this is the way I would do this. So if

989
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 2: you're a member of this voting panel, and there's like

990
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,720
Speaker 2: with the Pro Football of Fame somewhere between forty and fifty,

991
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 2: you know, accredited media people that should know what they're

992
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 2: talking about. So you have a five year waiting room, right,

993
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 2: and you vote only on those that have been waiting

994
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 2: five years.

995
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 3: Everyone deserves a second chance, so you do if you

996
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 3: miss it.

997
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 2: That first time five years later, so now you've had

998
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: ten years to evaluate whether or not this person belongs

999
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame. You get a second shot.

1000
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 2: That should be it. The idea about being on the

1001
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 2: ball for ten years in a row, twenty years, thirty years.

1002
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 3: To me is absurd.

1003
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 2: Plus I remember talking to some of these guys that

1004
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 2: keep waiting, waiting. It is a painful experience for them

1005
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 2: as well. But if you can't decide five years after

1006
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 2: a guy has been retired from the league whether he's

1007
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 2: not a Hall of Famer, again, he's not a Hall

1008
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 2: of Famer.

1009
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 4: Well, by your measure, we've never gotten Bob Hayes, Chuck Hallie.

1010
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,919
Speaker 4: I mean some of these all times, Ray Rayfield right,

1011
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 4: Rayfield right, or the greatest offensers Linement of all time.

1012
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 2: But they should have made a decision early on, because

1013
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 2: I think a lot of times they just sort of

1014
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: push him aside, say well, we'll just wait till next year.

1015
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: Sometimes they screw it up.

1016
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 2: Yes, well that's why I say you get a second chance.

1017
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 2: Another five years. Will take a second look.

1018
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 4: At times it's about like who's representing you in the room. Well,

1019
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 4: if there's someone that's like, you got huge respect. I mean,

1020
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,959
Speaker 4: if you look at one organization that seems overrepresented, I'll

1021
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 4: show you a great member of the media who's done

1022
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 4: an incredible job with.

1023
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 3: How good is Rick Gosslam Excellent? Yeah?

1024
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's been doing it for he did it forever. Man,

1025
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 4: I think he finally doesn't. I don't think he goes

1026
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 4: and he well, I don't know, maybe he still does,

1027
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 4: but no, he's he's very good.

1028
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 3: All right.

1029
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, I want to get

1030
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 2: into a little Major League Baseball with you because the

1031
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: AO WES has gotten even more interesting with the acquisition

1032
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 2: of acquisition of a couple of Hall of Fame pitchers.

1033
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,280
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1034
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,719
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1035
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1036
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1037
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1039
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1040
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1041
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1042
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1043
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 3: Thanks so much for tuning in today.

1044
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 2: All right, well, Matt, I want to talk about big

1045
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 2: changes in the Al West with the addition of two

1046
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 2: future first ballot, no brainer, Hall of Fame pitchers, Justin Verlander,

1047
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 2: Max schers Or leave the Mets. It was a debacle

1048
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 2: with the Mets this year. They won one hundred and

1049
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: one games. Last year, two pitchers each making forty three

1050
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 2: million dollars and it didn't pan out.

1051
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 3: So they unloaded them.

1052
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: And we saw the other day Max Scherzer make his

1053
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 2: debut with the Rangers. He won the game, didn't pitch great,

1054
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 2: but well enough. Today Verlander made his redebut, I guess

1055
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 2: with the Astros took the loss against the Yankees. Well,

1056
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 2: what's the buzz right now in this Ale West race

1057
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 2: between the Rangers and the Astros now that these Hall

1058
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: of Fame pitchers have been added to the staffs.

1059
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's a lot of fun.

1060
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 4: And to see the Astros have to react to the

1061
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 4: Rangers as much of a fun ride ivalry is. This

1062
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 4: is they haven't both been really good at the same time.

1063
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 4: They had a maybe a one or two year stretch

1064
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 4: where they're both good when the Astros were kind of down,

1065
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 4: the Rangers were going back to back World Series. When

1066
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 4: the Astros were rolling, the Rangers were down. To be

1067
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 4: good at the same time has been a lot of fun,

1068
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 4: and these are great both great pitchers. I mean, you

1069
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 4: could make arguments either way. Verlander for what he's done

1070
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 4: in the postseason, maybe ahead of Shureser, but Suresre's also

1071
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 4: I mean, they've both been great and so incredible additions

1072
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 4: to both teams. Verlander obviously feels very comfortable with the Astros.

1073
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 4: It may take Suzer just a little more time to

1074
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 4: kind of fit in and be okay, but he did

1075
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 4: get past that shaky first inning the other day and

1076
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 4: then goes five scoreless, strikes out nine and this has

1077
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 4: kind of galvanized the Rangers. They did this deal and

1078
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 4: immediately won four straight games, So the Rangers of the Astros,

1079
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 4: this thing is going to go the rest of the season.

1080
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 4: It's really I mean, it's a lot of fun because

1081
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 4: heading into that deal, the Rangers were struggling a little bit.

1082
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 4: The Astros had climbed back into this thing, and they

1083
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 4: were virtually tied, and now the Rangers have jumped back

1084
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 4: up to I think at a game and a half

1085
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 4: lead in the in the division race. But I mean

1086
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 4: both teams made some moves, but mostly in the pitching department,

1087
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 4: and the Rangers added another starter in Montgomery with the

1088
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 4: from the Cardinals and a reliever from the Cardinals in Stratton.

1089
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 4: So I think both teams did pretty well at the deadline.

1090
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 4: And of course the Rangers got a rolled as Chapman

1091
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 4: as well in the bullpen.

1092
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 2: Well, they also got a haliday manager named Bruce Bochie.

1093
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 2: I want to share a quick story about Boach. So

1094
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five he became the manager of the San

1095
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 2: Diego Padres. I've been a Dodger fan my whole life,

1096
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 2: unabashed Dodger fan forever, and we were doing our show

1097
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: at the Old six ninety live from the Podres opening game.

1098
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 2: If you remember, the ninety four season was of course

1099
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 2: cut off unceremoniously by the strike. The ninety five season

1100
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 2: actually got delayed before they finally resolved things that got

1101
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 2: the season started. So we're actually doing my broadcast from

1102
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 2: the booth in San Diego was then the murph for Qualcomm.

1103
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what the name of this old San

1104
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 2: Diego stadium was at the time. Anyway, Boch he was

1105
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 2: going to come upstairs to talk with us, and I

1106
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 2: was in a full conversation basically about my love of

1107
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 2: the Dodgers when unknowing to me, he was standing behind

1108
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 2: me ready to do the interview, and then all of

1109
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 2: a sudden I turned around. You know, a big booming,

1110
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 2: you know, giant, giant man, Bruce Boch, and he's like,

1111
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 2: let me get this straight. I walked all the way

1112
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 2: up here to talk to some stupid Dodgers fan. Boach

1113
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 2: and I loved each other and he's just a wonderful man.

1114
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 2: And when he eventually went to the Giants, and when

1115
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 2: that first World Series the Giants have following near open

1116
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 2: their season at Dodgers Stadium, walked into his office and

1117
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 2: I looked at him. I said, Boach, really gonna win

1118
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 2: a series with the Giants team.

1119
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 3: I've made it my entire life.

1120
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Speaker 2: I you know, I talked about a couple of years ago.

1121
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 2: I was hoping to talk to him back to San Diego.

1122
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 2: It was clear that he wasn't done yet, but just

1123
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about what boach has meant to

1124
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 2: that Rangers organization.

1125
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 3: I just love the fact he got boats there, you

1126
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 3: got Dusty Baker.

1127
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 2: You know who finally you know, checked the box as

1128
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 2: far as his Hall of Fame resume with that World

1129
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 2: Series win a year ago. But to have two managers

1130
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 2: like that Hall of Fame managers, it's got to be

1131
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 2: something pretty special.

1132
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 4: You know what Boachie sounds like. It's kind of this

1133
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 4: old Western Oh yeah, I mean there's a John Wayne

1134
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 4: sort of quality. Even now with his uh he's had

1135
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 4: some physical issues with his hips and all that, but

1136
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 4: when he walks out there and you hear him after games,

1137
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 4: he just provided just great immediate credibility to this organization.

1138
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 4: And then of course they started spending life crazy, so

1139
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 4: you almost feel bad for the previous managers because it's

1140
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 4: like they didn't really have a shot. But it's kind

1141
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 4: of like once they started spending big time money, they

1142
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 4: brought in a real manager and he still has it.

1143
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 4: And the great thing about him is he's adjusted to

1144
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 4: this world of analytics and he's still old school enough,

1145
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 4: but he listens to everybody, implements it and all of

1146
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 4: that and he's great. I like listening to him after

1147
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,479
Speaker 4: these horrible losses because the fans in media we see

1148
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 4: these things where they come all the way back and

1149
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 4: they erase an eight run deficit or whatever, but then

1150
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 4: they lose the game and it's kind of like, how

1151
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 4: do you recover from this? How do you recover? Well,

1152
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 4: he's seen that kind of thing happen a million times,

1153
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 4: and so there's just a gravitas or there's a presence

1154
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 4: that he has that they haven't had in a long time.

1155
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 4: A Ron Washington had a great run with the Rangers,

1156
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 4: but they just haven't had anyone really of this magnitude

1157
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 4: in such a long time. If ever, and I mean,

1158
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 4: you just know, if he's got the players, he can

1159
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 4: lead you to the promised land. I mean, he's gonna

1160
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 4: like who would ever bet against him in a playoff

1161
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 4: series at least making the right decisions.

1162
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: You feel good about what he does.

1163
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 4: You know, you second guess him on things with relievers

1164
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 4: like you do all managers. But man, it's fun having him.

1165
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 4: And as you're saying, Dusty, we were talking about guys

1166
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 4: that are well, I think Dusty's already in his seventies.

1167
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 4: Bochie if he's not there is very getting very close,

1168
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 4: and they've just aged so gracefully. And this thought of oh,

1169
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 4: you have to get a young manager who just played

1170
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 4: within the past decade or five years before, what doesn't

1171
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 4: always happen like that, doesn't need to happen like that.

1172
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 4: And Bochie's reputation and how he is just really resonates

1173
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 4: in that clubhouse.

1174
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: And plus they've just put an.

1175
00:59:56,240 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 4: Unbelievable lineup together the hitters between Simeon and Seeger and

1176
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 4: Young and Adulas Garcia and that whole group. And in

1177
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 4: the eight to nine hitters with Leodi Taveres and Zeke Duran,

1178
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 4: that's a strong lineup. And and I don't I don't

1179
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 4: necessarily think. I think most people think the Astros could

1180
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 4: overtake them, just because of the Astros pedigree and how

1181
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 4: great they've been these last few years. But I think

1182
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 4: the Rangers are built to withstand this push from the Astros.

1183
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 4: But it's gonna be so much fun down the stretch.

1184
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 4: It's a it's a great race, and I mean all

1185
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 4: the way through August and into September October. Obviously this

1186
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,919
Speaker 4: thing is gonna go back and forth and not one

1187
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 4: of these teams will ever have more than a two

1188
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 4: or three game lead.

1189
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: Well, that will not happen.

1190
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 2: Well, let me let me tell you about because we

1191
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 2: talk about this all the time with players like well,

1192
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 2: what did you do in the big games?

1193
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 3: You know what?

1194
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 2: Same thing with coach as the managers. Bruce Bochi three

1195
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 2: World Series titles with the Giants. In none of those

1196
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 2: years were the Giants the best team in baseball, not

1197
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 2: even close, and yet he was able to navigate his

1198
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 2: way all the way to the finish line with some

1199
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 2: brilliant managing. You mentioned the fact that he is conscious

1200
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 2: of analytics, but he doesn't lean completely on analytics. Hey

1201
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 2: give me the numbers. I want to hear what the

1202
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 2: numbers are. But you still got to manage a team.

1203
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 2: You got to have a feel of the way he

1204
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 2: manipulated the Giants bullpens in those three years was remarkable.

1205
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 2: And I remember ninety eight when he took a Podres team,

1206
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 2: the upset one hundred and one win Astros team Larry

1207
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 2: Derker's era. They beat the Braves in the Nationalague Championship Series.

1208
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 3: The Braves at the height of their power. How did

1209
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 3: they do it? Well?

1210
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 2: Of course, they ran into the buzzsaw that one hundred

1211
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 2: and fourteen win Yankee team in the World Series.

1212
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 3: It was Bruce Bochie.

1213
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 2: So if this Rangers team gets into the postseason and

1214
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 2: barring some collapse, they will definitely be there. Watch how

1215
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 2: he manages Matt in the postseason. He is as good

1216
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 2: a postseason manager as I've ever seen.

1217
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm just glad the Rangers convinced him to

1218
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 4: give it one more go. Yep, they just got him

1219
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 4: at the perfect time. I think he was feeling better,

1220
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 4: He got his physical stuff kind of taken care of,

1221
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 4: and he hasn't lost a step. And from a mental standpoint,

1222
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 4: and what he does in the in the with the

1223
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 4: lineup and what he does with his team. I mean,

1224
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 4: this team would do anything for him. So it's gonna

1225
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 4: be it's gonna be a lot of fun. It is

1226
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 4: fun to see some of these old managers having this, uh,

1227
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 4: this level of success.

1228
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, guys at pre date analytics, they still know a

1229
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 2: few things about the game of baseball. All right, let's

1230
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 2: find out what's trending right now. As once again, Kevin Wyer,

1231
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 2: he's got his thoughts on northern California. So when you

1232
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 2: actually make it up there, Kevin, I anticipate no drinking

1233
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 2: until you actually get up there.

1234
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 9: Oh well, I am flying because left early to drive

1235
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 9: so in order to catch up on flying.

1236
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 6: So as soon as I.

1237
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 2: Go, you will catch up on the flight before the flight,

1238
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 2: even before the flight.

1239
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 9: I mean, I've got about three hours between the end

1240
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 9: of my shift and my flight, so I can stop

1241
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 9: at Buffalo Wild Wings across the street.

1242
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 3: So you'll be in mid game attitude by the time

1243
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 3: you got there.

1244
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1245
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 6: Who, I'll be ready to go.

1246
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 3: Sounds like a party. That's gonna be good. What's going

1247
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 3: on out there, Kevi.

1248
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 9: Well College Athletics. That's been the big story of the

1249
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 9: last couple of days. Someone's throwing a party, at least

1250
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 9: if you're the schools that got invited to the Big

1251
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 9: Ten with the big payday. If your school's like Washington

1252
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,919
Speaker 9: State Oregon State, it's more like a funeral. The death

1253
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 9: tail's tolling for the Pac twelve. As Washington and Oregon

1254
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 9: announcing they will go to the Big Ten. They've accepted

1255
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 9: invitations and with arriving on the wall Arizona Arizona State

1256
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 9: in Utah leaving the conference as well. They will go

1257
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 9: to the Big Twelve. Against starting for the twenty twenty

1258
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,919
Speaker 9: four season, So just Cal Stanford, Oregon State, and Washington State.

1259
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 9: That's all that's left in for what we're now calling

1260
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 9: the PAC twelve, and we'll have to see what happens

1261
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 9: with those four schools. Florida Stay has also been making

1262
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 9: some noise about leaving the ACC. They do have a

1263
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,959
Speaker 9: grant of rights until twenty thirty six, so any TV

1264
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 9: revenue that they would earn in another conference stays with

1265
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 9: the ACC until then, and they're trying to at least

1266
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 9: they're saying at least they're trying to figure a way

1267
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 9: around that. So not over yet is this realignment? Things

1268
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 9: are still very much in flux the times they are

1269
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 9: a changing Major League Baseball. The Braves now have cut

1270
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 9: the devasit to two. They were down five to nothing

1271
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 9: in the second inning, have slowly tried clawing their way back,

1272
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 9: and right now they're in the top of the ninth

1273
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 9: inning at Regular Field, and that game has actually just ended,

1274
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 9: Travis Darnault grounding out there to end the games, so

1275
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 9: the Cubs hold on to win it against the Braves

1276
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 9: eight to six.

1277
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 6: A couple other games have gone final.

1278
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 9: The Yankees beat the Astros three to one, Tigers over

1279
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 9: the Rays four to two, and a few games in

1280
01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:00,439
Speaker 9: action right now. The Marlins and Rangers all tied up five.

1281
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 9: They're in the fifth inning. Also in the fifth inning

1282
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 9: a tie ballgame at Fenway, Blue Jays n Red Sox

1283
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 9: nodded at three. The Nationals will at five to zhering

1284
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 9: lead over the Reds. They are in the top of

1285
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 9: the sixth inning. In Cincinnati Women's World Cup, Spain knocking

1286
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 9: Switzerland out of the tournament. They beat him five to

1287
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 9: one in advance to the quarterfinals. Same for Japan. They

1288
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 9: bounced Norway three to one. We'll have another round of

1289
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,919
Speaker 9: sixteen match. The Netherlands will face South Africa. Kickoff set

1290
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 9: for ten o'clock Eastern on Fox. And then a Sunday

1291
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 9: game for the US women's national team. They'll be in

1292
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 9: action against Sweden and that one will be on Fox

1293
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 9: as well, kickoff sec four five am. And in NFL News,

1294
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 9: Saints head coach Dennis Allen saying running back Eno Benjamin

1295
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 9: He's been diagnosed with a torn achilles and he's season

1296
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 9: is likely over. With Alvin Kamara being out for the

1297
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 9: first three games, that running back room a little thin

1298
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Speaker 9: there in New Orleans.

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Speaker 6: Back to you guys.

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01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 3: All right, Kevin, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Once again, we are live from the tai iraq dot

1302
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 2: Com studios, Harvey Matt Mosley here on a Fox Sports Saturday.

1303
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 3: Just talk a little baseball, Matt.

1304
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 2: I haven't had a chance to talk to you since

1305
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 2: this baseball season began.

1306
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 3: You know, I like to consider myself old school.

1307
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 2: I don't mind saying that, but I have to admit

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01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 2: when I went to Dodger Stadium for the first time

1309
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 2: this season and saw a running clock at a baseball park,

1310
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 2: I was in shock. I mean, I knew it was there,

1311
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 2: but we've never seen a running clock at a baseball

1312
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 2: game and it's working. It was a brilliant move. Theo

1313
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 2: Epstein is someone I've known since literally is intern days

1314
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 2: with Larry Leakino and the Padres organization, and it was

1315
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 2: really his pushing of analytics to allow the Red Sox

1316
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 2: to finally break through in a World Series. Same thing

1317
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 2: with the Cubs, and Major League Baseball hired him wisely,

1318
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 2: and part of them was to say THEO look, we

1319
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 2: understand your analytics would become the craze of baseball. It's

1320
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 2: killing our sport. I mean it's strikeout, walk or home run.

1321
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 2: There's not enough action on the field. Do something about it.

1322
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 2: And when we talk about the clock, or we talk

1323
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 2: about the limited number of throws to first base which

1324
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 2: has led to a lot more stolen basements, there's a

1325
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 2: lot more movement on the field. The games are on average,

1326
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 2: what about a half hour less than they were just

1327
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 2: a year ago.

1328
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 3: But do you like this new styles?

1329
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 2: Has this been pleasing for you as Major League Baseball

1330
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 2: had an upgrade.

1331
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 3: In your opinion in twenty twenty three?

1332
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 4: Very pleasing And the only thing it does to me

1333
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 4: Sometimes when I want to check you in on a

1334
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 4: game that I thinks should be on and I just

1335
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 4: want to watch the last couple of innings, it'll already

1336
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 4: be over.

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01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 1: Have you noticed that?

1338
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 4: You know, we used to condition ourselves to check in

1339
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 4: late on some games, and now hour and fifty eight,

1340
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 4: two hours, twenty minute, it's these things are over three

1341
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:07,439
Speaker 4: hour games extremely rare at this point and so very

1342
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 4: I'm all for it, and I'm with you. I was

1343
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 4: at Opening Day and de gram was on the mound

1344
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 4: for the Rangers and just seeing that clock out there

1345
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 4: and trying to in my mind think what is that

1346
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 4: even for like, it's a strange thing when we're not

1347
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:25,680
Speaker 4: used to even seeing that. It's like, we don't have

1348
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 4: a shot clock. What are we doing here? And it's

1349
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 4: worked fine. And occasionally they somebody, you know, they get

1350
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 4: a ball or whatever, or or somebody in the you know,

1351
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 4: the hitter will be given a warning or something will

1352
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 4: happen in that regard. But it's everybody's cleaned up. And

1353
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:47,799
Speaker 4: some of these pictures that used to just take forever

1354
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 4: and just sort of boris to tears.

1355
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 1: You just can't do it anymore.

1356
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was interesting because both Surezer and Verlander struggled

1357
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 2: early in the season with the Mats. Both started to

1358
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 2: find their wayter on. I think it was a much

1359
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 2: tougher adjustment for veteran pitchers. I mean, if you've been pitching,

1360
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 2: you know, as long as a Virliner Sureser and there

1361
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 2: is no clock, I mean, you're working at your own pace.

1362
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:14,600
Speaker 2: And I think for some of the younger pitchers was

1363
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 2: an easier adjustment, but some of the veterans, I think

1364
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 2: they had a hard time with it. I was at

1365
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 2: the game when at Dodgers Stadium when Shurser got thrown

1366
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 2: out for substance on his hands.

1367
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 3: This was unbelievable. I mean, he's won any of.

1368
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 2: The game and you could see his hysteria. I mean,

1369
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 2: he was going crazy with the umpire and I looked up,

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01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 2: I go.

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01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 3: I think they just threw shirts. Are out of the game.

1372
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:40,640
Speaker 3: But I love that.

1373
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 1: See.

1374
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 2: But that's what I love about some of the old

1375
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 2: school mentality. We talk about managers like a Bruce Bochi

1376
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 2: or Dusty Baker that they remember a different game than

1377
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 2: the way the game is played. And there's a way

1378
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 2: to incorporate old with new, you know, I mean, in

1379
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 2: other words, there's yeah. I mean, and like I said,

1380
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 2: the clock is working, definitely working. We're seeing stolen bases

1381
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:07,759
Speaker 2: reintroduced to the game. And I love this because we're

1382
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 2: in an age people want to see action. They want

1383
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 2: to see action on it. You remember how this was

1384
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 2: Matt back in the day. So major League Baseball in

1385
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,679
Speaker 2: the old days, everyone had a leadoff guy that would

1386
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,639
Speaker 2: steal bases everyone. You know, whether it was a Ricky

1387
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 2: Anderson going way back at lou Brock with the Dodgers

1388
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 2: for years, a guy like Davy Loves before that, Morey Wills.

1389
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 2: So you get the leadoff guy on base and then

1390
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 2: you're okay, he's gonna try to steal sec. This is

1391
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 2: the way baseball used to be played. There was there was,

1392
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 2: you know, you didn't wait around for somebody to walk, walk, walk,

1393
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 2: and then hit a home run. And I think we're

1394
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 2: sort of being reintroduced to that. And I think the

1395
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 2: numbers are showing people like what they.

1396
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 4: See in addressing the shift things like that. I think

1397
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 4: these are all fine. I was gonna help Kevin out here.

1398
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 4: By the way, Marlin's Marlins were up five to nothing

1399
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 4: on the Rangers. The Rangers have now gotten this thing

1400
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 4: to seven to five, just ripping home run after home

1401
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 4: run Robbie Grossman, three run homer, Josh Young, former Texas

1402
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,520
Speaker 4: Tech great turned third basement All Star for the Rangers,

1403
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 4: two run homer, and now the Rangers lead this thing

1404
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 4: seven to five. This at times has been the most

1405
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:23,480
Speaker 4: explosive lineup in the game, and they're flashing that again today.

1406
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 4: And of course this was the day the Astros lost,

1407
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 4: as we talked about earlier, and so the Rangers, by believe,

1408
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 4: will have a two and a half game lead if

1409
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 4: they hold on and win this game.

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01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 2: So when I saw, you know, the last name is

1411
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 2: spelled j u n G right, and it's pronounced young.

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01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:41,759
Speaker 3: Is that correct?

1413
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was thinking, who's Josh Jung? I mean,

1414
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 2: this guy twenty two home runs this year. I also

1415
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 2: love the fact that Austin Hedges, who is arguably the

1416
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 2: worst hitter in the history of Major League Baseball, mean

1417
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 2: his career numbers. How about how about the fact that,

1418
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 2: forget the two, forget the one, seventy seven batting averages

1419
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 2: is the catcher now for the Rangers? How about a

1420
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 2: slugging percentage of two twenty six and yet he's such

1421
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 2: a good defensive catcher. Yeah, somehow, some way, this guy

1422
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 2: works his way into the line for years with the Padres.

1423
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 2: You're like, how long can you carry a guy that

1424
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 2: has that kind of a bat? Well, I guess the

1425
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 2: answer for a manager like Bruce Bochi is because Bochu

1426
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 2: was a catcher himself back in the day. We have

1427
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 2: enough bats. I'm not worried about his bat. I'm worried

1428
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 2: about a guy that can handle our pitching staff. A

1429
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 2: guy like Hedges never sees the light of day if

1430
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 2: he doesn't have a manager like Bruce Bochi.

1431
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1432
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 4: Well, and they have their their great hitting catcher Jonah

1433
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 4: Haim out with injury right now, and it creates some

1434
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 4: extra time and they actually have a guy who can

1435
01:12:56,000 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 4: hit it, catcher Garver, Mitch Garver. But Hedges, you're right,

1436
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:06,640
Speaker 4: is high, high character, manages pitchers extremely well. Has that

1437
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 4: reputation they gave that. I think it was like this,

1438
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 4: they gave some money to the Pirates International Group and

1439
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 4: they got they got Hedges. And to your point, like,

1440
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 4: for instance, your old buddy Seeger who came over from

1441
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 4: the Dodgers has a thousand and fifty six OPS right

1442
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 4: now and it's hitting three fifty all right.

1443
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, look at his postseason numbers when

1444
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 2: the Dodgers won the World Series a few years ago. Yeah,

1445
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,679
Speaker 2: MVP of the World Series, MVP of the NLCS. Again,

1446
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:40,679
Speaker 2: another guy that will produce when the games matter.

1447
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:46,520
Speaker 4: But Hedges, to your point, his OPS is four fifty nine. Yes,

1448
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 4: it's like anything under seven hundred is not great.

1449
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 3: Right his career, he's played nine years.

1450
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 2: He has a one eighty eight batting everything I know,

1451
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 2: I mean, has almost two thousand and bats. I think

1452
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 2: he literally is in the conversation lowest batting average in

1453
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 2: the history of Major League base like you say he's

1454
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 2: a great guy. Super Guy interviewed him many times over

1455
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,759
Speaker 2: the years. I always felt bad for the guy's career.

1456
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 2: Ops is five sixty nine.

1457
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, But there's just certain people like that, he's

1458
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 4: an hangaround guy on his second string. Who's the guy

1459
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 4: for the Dodgers that Kershaw loved throwing to. He loved

1460
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 4: the guy's body tight another Austin there, Yeah, yeah, and

1461
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 4: he was back there with I mean, he was basically

1462
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 4: the caddie for Kershaw, yes for several years, and it

1463
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:35,719
Speaker 4: was just because well.

1464
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 2: Called Boston Barnes is guy. He's still with the Dodgers.

1465
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 2: I mean, it's unreal how this guy is still going

1466
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 2: all these years despite the fact that he has a

1467
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 2: two to eight.

1468
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 3: Well let me see what his curR batting averages.

1469
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 2: So Barnes right now with the Dodge this is his

1470
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 2: ninth year with the Dodgers with a two sixteen batting average.

1471
01:14:54,439 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 2: He's hitting one twenty two this year. Two way out there.

1472
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 2: All right, really great stuff coming up? All right, coming

1473
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 2: up on the other side, We're going to get back

1474
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 2: to the biggest news of yesterday to today, and that

1475
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 2: is the complete well disintegration of a once fabled college conference.

1476
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 2: What's next We're going to tell you. This is Fox

1477
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 2: Sports Saturday, Steve Harbin, Matt Mosley, Fox Sports Saturday. We're

1478
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 2: coming live from the Tireack dot Com studios. So we

1479
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 2: started the show today Matt talking about the implosion of

1480
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve conference down to four schools. Eventually there'll

1481
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 2: be a second tier conference with the probable inclusion of

1482
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 2: some Mountain West schools and some other schools scattered around

1483
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 2: the country. Obviously, as a big twelve guy yourself with

1484
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 2: your balor roots, it's a good time for that conference.

1485
01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 2: I do remember when the PAC ten was going to

1486
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:04,560
Speaker 2: be the PAC sixteen. Yeah, before they became the PAC twelve.

1487
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 2: The PAC sixteen was going to include what there was

1488
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 2: the PAC ten at the time, the Arizona Schools, Watching Schools,

1489
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 2: Oregon schools, Bay Area schools, Southern California schools, Colorado, Oklahoma,

1490
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A and M, and Texas Tech.

1491
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:20,719
Speaker 2: They were all going to be included in the conference,

1492
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 2: and then Commissioner Larry Scott nixed the deal because he

1493
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,799
Speaker 2: didn't want any part of that long harm network.

1494
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,679
Speaker 3: Big mistake, big, big mistake.

1495
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 2: We're talking off air about as someone that started falling

1496
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 2: USC football when OJ arrived on campus.

1497
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 3: So that's a long time ago, long time ago.

1498
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 2: And grew up a Trojan fan because of my father,

1499
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 2: and then of course became a Bruin. And so I've

1500
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 2: been following this conference.

1501
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 3: For a long time, well over fifty years.

1502
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 2: And you know, everyone's looking for the blame game here,

1503
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 2: And to be honest with you, first of all, this

1504
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 2: all started with USC. Ucla hitched its wagon to USC. Wisely,

1505
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 2: this was a UCLA athletic department was one hundred million

1506
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:23,480
Speaker 2: in debt, Matt one hundred million in debt.

1507
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 3: They didn't have a lot of choices. They needed to

1508
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 3: hitch their wagon to USC.

1509
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 2: But as painful as this is, because I grew up

1510
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 2: with the idea of big ten versus you know, pack

1511
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 2: eight pac ten in the Rose Bowl.

1512
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 3: That was the tradition, right.

1513
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 2: It was something you look forward to, like winning the

1514
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 2: conference met something because you were going to be in

1515
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl. Long before we had championship games and

1516
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 2: everything else, it actually mattered. So for someone of that

1517
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 2: era that remembers all that, it's painful. But I'll be

1518
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 2: honest with you, I don't blame them at all, this

1519
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 2: is a game of ser and so for USC to

1520
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:08,759
Speaker 2: compete where they want to compete, the sport is better.

1521
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 2: And this is coming from a UCLA fan. The sport

1522
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 2: is better when USC is dominant, when Notre Dame is dominant,

1523
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 2: when Alabama's dominant, when Ohio State is dominant, when the

1524
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 2: traditional powers are good, it's good for the entire sport.

1525
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 2: And USC could not get there unless they were on

1526
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 2: an equal playing field, and now they are. So they're

1527
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 2: on the equal playing field with the Alabamas and the

1528
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 2: Ohio States and the Michigans and the Clemsons of the world.

1529
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 2: So now USC has the means to compete for national

1530
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 2: championships like they did back in the peak Carroll era.

1531
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 2: So as much as it pains me to say they

1532
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 2: made the right move, no apologies.

1533
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 4: If they could do it in the Carrol era, I

1534
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 4: don't really understand why. I mean, they probably could have

1535
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 4: done it. It would have been interesting to see if

1536
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:06,759
Speaker 4: they could have done it with Lincoln. I guess you're saying,

1537
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:12,720
Speaker 4: all this money they're going to inject into their system

1538
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 4: with USC and Uclair, at least USC will have I

1539
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 4: guess it becomes an equal playing field. Although Texas has

1540
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 4: always had plenty of money, and they've had more money

1541
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 4: than everybody, yep, because of the Longhorn network, and they've

1542
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 4: been out in the wilderness forever coach and then we

1543
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 4: find ourselves. Yeah, but I'm saying it's more about coaches

1544
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 4: than it's getting in the right conference or having all

1545
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 4: this money come in.

1546
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like USC was trying to do it with.

1547
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 4: Helton and Sark or whoever was coming through there, and

1548
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 4: it was more about that than I think, Oh, get

1549
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:53,559
Speaker 4: in the big ten and now you'll be good.

1550
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 1: No, maybe it was more about hiring the right coach.

1551
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 2: Well, look at Alabama when Nick Saban, I mean they

1552
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 2: floundered free years.

1553
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 3: Look at coaching has a big part of it.

1554
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:07,679
Speaker 2: But in order to get a Lincoln Riley it costs

1555
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 2: USC a bundle. Do you know how much money they're

1556
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 2: really paying Caleb Williams. Does anybody really understand how much

1557
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 2: money Caleb Williams is making to be the quarterback at USC.

1558
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 2: I'll put it this way. It's way beyond anything that's

1559
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:26,479
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1560
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1573
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 2: about twenty minutes. He's been on the road, Matt, all

1574
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 2: over the place. You yourself up an Oxnard checking out

1575
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 2: the Cowboys training camp. You know, I was thinking about

1576
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:24,480
Speaker 2: how much training camps have changed.

1577
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 3: Over the years.

1578
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 2: It used to be that training camps would open like

1579
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 2: fourth of July and you would have a full month

1580
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 2: of training camp before you ever took the field in

1581
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 2: a preseason game. And those are two a days when

1582
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 2: it is hot, I mean inhumanly hot, and now we

1583
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 2: see them I don't know, show up in very light

1584
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 2: practice everyone's got a marshmallow on their helmet.

1585
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 3: Don't want to get anybody hurt, obviously.

1586
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 2: And they run around a little bit and then you know,

1587
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 2: they get ready for their preseason games were down to three. Remember,

1588
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 2: of course, in the COVID season of twenty twenty, there

1589
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:14,719
Speaker 2: was no training camp, no preseason games, and somehow week

1590
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:16,719
Speaker 2: one and it all seemed to work out just fine.

1591
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 2: It's amazing how they've come to their census. But do

1592
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 2: you miss that old school like, you know, because I'm

1593
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 2: sure you go back in the day now, Well, you

1594
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:26,879
Speaker 2: remember when training.

1595
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 3: Camps were brutal. You know, I really have to sweat

1596
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:30,679
Speaker 3: it out.

1597
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you this. The Cowboys back in

1598
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 2: their Thousand Oaks days, forget it. I mean it was brutal,

1599
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 2: the kind of heat that they were exposed to for

1600
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 2: two a days, for a full month before they ever

1601
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 2: played a preseason game.

1602
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 4: I used to love going to Lehigh to watch the

1603
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 4: Eagles and then go out to Albany and watch the Giants,

1604
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:57,639
Speaker 4: and those college campuses, the dorms where they would stay.

1605
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:02,679
Speaker 4: I mean it was really I mean that those were

1606
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 4: those were fun times. Now I do not remember them

1607
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,640
Speaker 4: starting that early and In fact, in the context of

1608
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 4: what they're doing now, that sounds ridiculous.

1609
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I, you know, started as a.

1610
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 4: Young writer covering the Cowboys, and they would they would

1611
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 4: report it maybe the twentieth at the earliest, July twentieth

1612
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:26,559
Speaker 4: or July twenty fifth. So the thought of them starting

1613
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,759
Speaker 4: even a couple of weeks before that, this seems crazy

1614
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 4: to me because that's like the only down period in

1615
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 4: the NFL now, because it's such a year round proposition.

1616
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:42,879
Speaker 4: But I do I think more of these some teams

1617
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 4: still value the getting away from home and bonding and

1618
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 4: all of that. Most most teams don't want to do

1619
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:51,679
Speaker 4: that anymore.

1620
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 1: It's just like.

1621
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 4: Too much of a cost, too much of a commitment,

1622
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 4: let's be around. I mean, I just remember thinking how

1623
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 4: cool it would be to go see the Steelers in Latrobe.

1624
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 4: I mean that place almost in my mind was like

1625
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 4: some kind of magical place, a Latrobe, Pennsylvania.

1626
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 1: Just to hear about that.

1627
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 4: And again I don't know, Steve, I would guess that

1628
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 4: only about only a handful of teams now go off

1629
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 4: campus or stay anywhere.

1630
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 1: In fact, I don't know.

1631
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 4: For sure what the Eagles are doing these days, but

1632
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:33,720
Speaker 4: they used to go stay in Lehigh up there near Bethlehem, Pennsylvania,

1633
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 4: and man, that was great to those environments sometimes, and

1634
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 4: I remember always the Pennsylvania folks would be talking about

1635
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 4: how hot it was, and it'd be like in the

1636
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:49,639
Speaker 4: mid eighties or something. I'd be like, this is not hot.

1637
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 4: This is totally they'd be talking about heat waves, and

1638
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 4: of course, coming from Texas, we know what an actual

1639
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 4: heat wave.

1640
01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 1: Look.

1641
01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 3: Come on, bring back the Junction boys.

1642
01:24:59,200 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 1: Man.

1643
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 3: You know what Bear Ryan there did it a and m.

1644
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 3: He He had him out.

1645
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 2: There with the snakes and all the scorpions and playing

1646
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 2: on dirt, no water, the whole shebang, and legendary it is.

1647
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 1: In this day and age.

1648
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 4: It would take him about a month and he'd be

1649
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 4: fired exactly. He would have never made it pass.

1650
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 2: I think two thirds of the team quit, which is

1651
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 2: basically what he was looking for. You know, he was saying,

1652
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 2: all right, who's who's tough enough to survive this.

1653
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:31,560
Speaker 3: One of the guys that did survive was Gene Stallings.

1654
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 2: He was one of the Junction Boys and had a

1655
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 2: successful coaching career.

1656
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 3: Obviously, I don't know.

1657
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 2: I mean, there's something to be said though about the

1658
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:43,559
Speaker 2: idea of sort of building a camaraderie with the team

1659
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 2: and when you're sweating it out during training camp and

1660
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 2: there's a lot of competition.

1661
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 3: Because you know how this works, Matt. I mean people people.

1662
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 2: Used to talk about these how vital preseason games are

1663
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:57,719
Speaker 2: to determine roster spots.

1664
01:25:57,800 --> 01:25:58,799
Speaker 3: Don't kid yourself.

1665
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:03,759
Speaker 2: Most NFL teams may have at the starting training camp

1666
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 2: three or four spots open.

1667
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 1: That's it.

1668
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 2: Their roster has already been predetermined. They may have a

1669
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 2: few spots open. Obviously if there's injuries, that creates new spots,

1670
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:18,679
Speaker 2: but by and large, there are very few roster spots

1671
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 2: that are actually open for competition. And it's not decided

1672
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:26,719
Speaker 2: on who played well in a preseason game. It's decided

1673
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 2: on the practice field where the coaches see them. So,

1674
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I still to this day have no idea

1675
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:35,640
Speaker 2: why the NFL still has any preseason.

1676
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:37,600
Speaker 4: Well, I think you could make you an argument for

1677
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 4: two of them. Three still a little bit excessive. I'm

1678
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 4: glad it's going well. I mean, like I just saw

1679
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 4: Sean Payton is going to play his starters for what

1680
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 4: Friday Knight's game with the Broncos.

1681
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I still think there are.

1682
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:55,599
Speaker 4: Coaches who use it to get their players ready, get

1683
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 4: their starters, especially someone coming back like Sean Payton.

1684
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you about Champagne.

1685
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned Champayne because we obviously had a

1686
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 2: lot of discussion last week about Peyton's comments about, you know,

1687
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 2: the previous regime with Hack and everything else in Denver.

1688
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 2: I'm absolutely convinced because I've met Champaygne a few times.

1689
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 2: In fact, I met him during his off year from

1690
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 2: the Saints and when he was coaching high school and

1691
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 2: everything else, and he's a pretty smart guy.

1692
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 3: There was an intent here. It didn't happen by accident.

1693
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 8: You know.

1694
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:29,680
Speaker 2: He was trying to say, well I still have my

1695
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 2: commentator had on from Fox, or maybe I had a

1696
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 2: few too many lattes that year.

1697
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 3: That's not a case.

1698
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 2: He's trying to light a fire on her team that

1699
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 2: just went through a disastrous season, and he knows this

1700
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 2: roster is better than that, and so now it's like

1701
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 2: us versus the world.

1702
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 3: He thinks this team needs that.

1703
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:52,919
Speaker 2: But what was your initial reaction to those really almost

1704
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:57,879
Speaker 2: unprecedented criticism of a previous coaching regime.

1705
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know Sean is wired to there's

1706
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 4: an arrogance factor and there's a cockiness. And I kind

1707
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 4: of liked Sean. I got a kick out of him.

1708
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 4: He was very angry with me at times, especially over

1709
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 4: one particular story where he almost ended up with the

1710
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 4: Raiders back when I was covering the Cowboys. So we've

1711
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:25,759
Speaker 4: had our moments. But Sean knows exactly what he's doing.

1712
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:29,600
Speaker 4: Did he cross the line with his comments? And I

1713
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 4: kind of hated to see even Hackett I guess he

1714
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 4: was quoted talking about well he crossed. I mean, you know,

1715
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:40,640
Speaker 4: sometimes some when you're mentioned in that context, you honestly

1716
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 4: should just ignore it or not really address it, you know,

1717
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 4: and just kind of like, this is ridiculous. I don't

1718
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:49,680
Speaker 4: really need to dignify this or need to respond. But

1719
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 4: Sean is not. He's just there. He's extremely confident. And

1720
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 4: again I I don't love what he said or love

1721
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 4: what he did, but it's just kind of who he is,

1722
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 4: and he's always kind of poking and he's always got

1723
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 4: the sharp stickout in that kind of thing. And again,

1724
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 4: I don't know, doesn't really make much sense to me

1725
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 4: to kick someone when they're not even down anymore. I mean,

1726
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 4: you know, to say something negative about a previous coach

1727
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 4: or whatever. None of that really makes any sense to me.

1728
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:30,320
Speaker 4: But Sean is going to be Sean, and Sean likes

1729
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 4: to remind people that hey, no one has control of me.

1730
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:38,680
Speaker 4: And this is going to be really, really fascinating to

1731
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 4: watch because Sean had such a long career with the

1732
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 4: Saints that he's so synonymous with that organization, and it's

1733
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:51,720
Speaker 4: kind of like Mike McCarthy. Can can Sean do it

1734
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 4: in a different organization? Most people that have won a

1735
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:58,599
Speaker 4: Super Bowl in one place can't do it in another place.

1736
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:01,840
Speaker 4: I mean, Steve, you may no think about all your years.

1737
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:03,759
Speaker 4: I mean you might be able to think of one

1738
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,639
Speaker 4: off the top of your head that has gone somewhere else.

1739
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:10,679
Speaker 4: Holmgren got another team to a Super Bowl after Green Bay,

1740
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 4: but it rarely rarely happens. So I don't know Sean

1741
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 4: is doing doing something trying to kind of lay the

1742
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 4: groundwork and get his guys going. But in that sense,

1743
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:25,599
Speaker 4: I think he was. I think Sean was out of line,

1744
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 4: I really do.

1745
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 1: Well.

1746
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 2: I mean, he could have done it privately, but basically

1747
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:30,759
Speaker 2: what he was telling that locker room is what happened

1748
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 2: last year had nothing to do with you, nothing, nothing.

1749
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 2: It had everything to do with that coaching staff. Now

1750
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 2: he should have done that in the privacy of that

1751
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 2: locker room, but now he's put it out there. So

1752
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 2: there's a big target on the back of this Denver

1753
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:49,719
Speaker 2: Broncos team. They try to rebound from a disastrous twenty

1754
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:52,360
Speaker 2: to twenty two. And yeah, Nathana Haka was an awful

1755
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:57,680
Speaker 2: head coach. Awful, but you don't say that, right, at

1756
01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:00,240
Speaker 2: least not if you're the guy that succeeded him in

1757
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 2: that organization. All right, coming out on the other side,

1758
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 2: the man is everywhere. He's been visiting camps from coast

1759
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 2: to coast. We're gonna get all the word from our

1760
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Speaker 3: Should be Well.

1778
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 2: He's been one of the busiest men on the planet,

1779
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 2: circling the globe from training camp to training camp to

1780
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:17,879
Speaker 2: give us the latest news. He is our Fox Sports

1781
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:22,000
Speaker 2: NFL insider Adam Kaplan, and Adam will start with where

1782
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:24,560
Speaker 2: you were, apparently either today or recently.

1783
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 3: The Steelers.

1784
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:29,679
Speaker 2: I still claim they got it wrong with the coach

1785
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:31,599
Speaker 2: of the year last year. The coach of the year

1786
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 2: last year in the NFL is Mike Tomlin. How he

1787
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 2: was able to get that team to a winning record

1788
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 2: is remarkable. I think it's one of those seasons down

1789
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 2: the road to look back, like, how did he pull

1790
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:50,040
Speaker 2: that off? With the twenty twenty two Steelers so his

1791
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 2: record is intact. He still has never had a losing

1792
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 2: season as a head coach in the NFL. So how's

1793
01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 2: this team going to go from where they finished last

1794
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:00,599
Speaker 2: year heading into twenty two twenty three?

1795
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:03,679
Speaker 8: You guys could be with you. Yeah, I'm actually driving

1796
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 8: back from Pittsburgh, actually the trop Pennsylvania where they practice

1797
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 8: at the Saint Vincent's College Show. Yeah, I would say, Steve,

1798
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 8: the roster is way more talented than last year. Two

1799
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:18,240
Speaker 8: key receivers added. Kenny Pickett. Also talking to Matt Cannon

1800
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:21,080
Speaker 8: at the offensive coordinator day, there's no question that pickets,

1801
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 8: timing and confidence's way up last time. Last year, at

1802
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 8: this time, he was the third string quarterback. That matters.

1803
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:29,639
Speaker 8: I mean, when you're not getting first team reps, it's

1804
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 8: you know, it's hard to expect the guy to do

1805
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:33,600
Speaker 8: really well when he's getting first team reps late in

1806
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 8: the preseason. So the big change for him. They've added

1807
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 8: to their offensive line. Talk this one with the Steelers

1808
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:42,679
Speaker 8: sitting in the personnel department, he goes, show me another

1809
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 8: team that runs at thirty four front, that's got a

1810
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 8: better group of four pass rushers at the outside linebacker position,

1811
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:50,639
Speaker 8: and it's true, they're really good there. The only position

1812
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 8: they're really weaken is cornerback. Corner is a problem for them.

1813
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 8: I think that's if you're gonna if you want to

1814
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:58,400
Speaker 8: beat the Steelers, you got to come out throwing the football,

1815
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 8: go against those corners. But pass rush is going to

1816
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:03,519
Speaker 8: be good and right last year, they have a great roster.

1817
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 8: They've added a lot here of this season on both

1818
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:08,320
Speaker 8: sides of the football. They address their offensive line, and

1819
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 8: this is a team that expects to compete for the divisions.

1820
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:17,080
Speaker 4: No question, Adam is Latrobe still have that idyllic type

1821
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:19,760
Speaker 4: feeling there. I mean we were just talking about it,

1822
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 4: Steve and I. They are only a handful of teams

1823
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 4: now that go off site and go stay in a

1824
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 4: dorm or somewhere.

1825
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 1: And how much do you.

1826
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:32,880
Speaker 4: Think, like the Cowboys, the Steelers, the Eagles did it

1827
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:35,840
Speaker 4: for a lot of years going up to going to Lehigh,

1828
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:39,519
Speaker 4: how much do you think the teams benefit from from

1829
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:42,639
Speaker 4: doing something like that and kind of getting away from

1830
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:46,960
Speaker 4: home and the bonding that takes place in those instances.

1831
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, Matt, So talking to coaches, they like a lot

1832
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 8: of them would rather go away. Look, you have the

1833
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:57,559
Speaker 8: comforts of being at home. When you're at your home base,

1834
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 8: more often not get sleeper in your own bet. But

1835
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:03,200
Speaker 8: I think what they like Matt is the coach is like,

1836
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 8: it's just there's something about having everybody away from home.

1837
01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 8: You concentrate more, you're more together. I know the Browns

1838
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 8: who are just where the Saints would practice in West Virginia,

1839
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:19,760
Speaker 8: they wanted to do that. This is the first time

1840
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:21,759
Speaker 8: they've done that, that they've gone away from Brio, Ohio.

1841
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:24,760
Speaker 8: They love that. And also the other thing is he's

1842
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:26,920
Speaker 8: true in practices. This is when I first started coming

1843
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:29,759
Speaker 8: to league in ninety nine, it was almost unhearder about

1844
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:31,960
Speaker 8: joining practices. Now, if you're not doing it, it's odd.

1845
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 8: The fact I think they're twenty two teams are working

1846
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:37,040
Speaker 8: with each other this summer, So yeah, that's also something

1847
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:37,840
Speaker 8: that's pretty big here.

1848
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 3: Josh McDaniels is a disaster.

1849
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 2: I just I can't get over the fact that in

1850
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:46,639
Speaker 2: his last thirty nine games as an NFL head coach

1851
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:49,639
Speaker 2: he has a record eleven and twenty eight. And somehow

1852
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 2: this guy is pull I'm looking at the Raiders as

1853
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:55,960
Speaker 2: a team the two years ago made the playoffs and

1854
01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 2: right now to me, they're on the brink of disaster. Adam,

1855
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:02,599
Speaker 2: what is the latest on Josh Jacobs? Are they really

1856
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 2: going to pull his franchise tag off or off the table?

1857
01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 2: Is there a possibility that he could end up with

1858
01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:11,280
Speaker 2: maybe AFC West rival?

1859
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 3: What's the latest there?

1860
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, So, look, Steve, it would stun me if first

1861
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 8: of all, you would trade him. Why would you not

1862
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 8: want to get value. We're sending the tender, you get

1863
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:25,679
Speaker 8: nothing for me, just a freeze, an unrestricted free agent

1864
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 8: good Son anywhere, So that that would make no sense

1865
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 8: to pull the tenor pulling the tenor. I think it's

1866
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:34,679
Speaker 8: it's it's so rare for a team.

1867
01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:34,800
Speaker 9: To do it.

1868
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,920
Speaker 8: I remember the Eagles pulled it from Corey Simon many

1869
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:41,680
Speaker 8: years ago. It just really happens because you don't get

1870
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 8: anything for it. It's just it would make very little sense.

1871
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 8: And and the thing is now they like Samir White,

1872
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 8: who was who was a fourth round out of Georgia,

1873
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:52,240
Speaker 8: but last year he's had he had a pretty significant

1874
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:55,240
Speaker 8: injury enter at Georgia. They're not good at that position.

1875
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 8: They would only get worse. I know the rumors out

1876
01:36:57,400 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 8: there doctor Tye Tuck with someone close to him. They

1877
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:06,920
Speaker 8: just really never showed interest in extending this contract. The

1878
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 8: biggest surprise to me is, like you look at the Giants, right, Okay,

1879
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 8: they weren't close to getting extension done, but they found

1880
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:16,320
Speaker 8: a way to redo is one year franchise tenor they

1881
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:18,760
Speaker 8: redid the for one year deal. The Raiders are not

1882
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 8: shown much interest in doing anything. In fact, I'm told

1883
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 8: they made a couple offers late. They didn't make any

1884
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:28,719
Speaker 8: for months before July seventeenth. They made maybe two offers.

1885
01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:33,479
Speaker 8: Both are very inferior, and we're basically more of a

1886
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 8: one year structure and that's not what you're looking for.

1887
01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:39,240
Speaker 8: That is really what surprised me. Their best offensive player

1888
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 8: and this is the way you treat them. It does

1889
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 8: surprise me. But this is what they've done.

1890
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 4: Man, that's that is that's tough to hear. And boy, Hartman,

1891
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:51,639
Speaker 4: I wish you could have heard some of those Raiders

1892
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 4: stories Adam from him. We got some Al Davis stories earlier. Yeah, yeah, okay,

1893
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 4: you've heard a few of these things. What do you think,

1894
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:04,720
Speaker 4: Adam is the biggest put on your Eagles brain for

1895
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:09,599
Speaker 4: a minute, what's the biggest thing the Eagles have done

1896
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 4: to avoid the Super Bowl hangover? I keep reading, they're

1897
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:17,440
Speaker 4: going to throw the ball, they're running back more. Obviously

1898
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:20,639
Speaker 4: they've fallen in love with their quarterback and I've seen

1899
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:23,280
Speaker 4: him play for many, many years, dating back to college.

1900
01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:27,360
Speaker 4: But what do you think that the Eagles, what's the

1901
01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 4: most effective what do you think could be most effective

1902
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:33,559
Speaker 4: that they've done to kind of ward off that natural

1903
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:37,519
Speaker 4: thing that happens when you go farther that maybe men

1904
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:38,800
Speaker 4: people expect.

1905
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:40,080
Speaker 1: You to go in madge.

1906
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:43,400
Speaker 8: You know what's so funny? And I've always thought, I mean,

1907
01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 8: there's a variety of reasons why teams don't get back

1908
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:48,000
Speaker 8: to when you lose in the next year, you just

1909
01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:50,560
Speaker 8: don't get back. But Nick sary I was outst He

1910
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 8: said they actually did a study on it. Was it

1911
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:58,080
Speaker 8: injury related? Was it was it you didn't have certain

1912
01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:01,320
Speaker 8: players available for now the Eagles had all twenty two

1913
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:03,400
Speaker 8: stars available, which is very rare. You know, they had

1914
01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:06,680
Speaker 8: one of the best injury situations last season. You know,

1915
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 8: they practiced elise in training camp. They practice elise during

1916
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:13,320
Speaker 8: the week. They don't they don't practice a time. They

1917
01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:15,400
Speaker 8: really rest their starters during the week quite a bit.

1918
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 8: So they looked at it. There's to me, there's always

1919
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 8: some sort of reason. It's not just well super Bowl hangover.

1920
01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:26,240
Speaker 8: You would have to explain what that means. And look,

1921
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:28,920
Speaker 8: I'll give you another one. So I talked to the

1922
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:32,640
Speaker 8: players after the seventeen Super Bowl. I know one of

1923
01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:35,519
Speaker 8: them said that the team was very entitled. They thought

1924
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:37,040
Speaker 8: they were going to be they thought they were great,

1925
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:40,320
Speaker 8: and they lost their edge. Matt, that that does happen

1926
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:44,720
Speaker 8: entitlement happens with all sports, like he because you just

1927
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:47,639
Speaker 8: think he can get back there. I remember Dan Marino thicking,

1928
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 8: remember he either I think it was his second year

1929
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:53,120
Speaker 8: and eighty five they made the Super Bowl. He thought

1930
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:54,479
Speaker 8: he'd be back there. I don't know how many comps

1931
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:56,600
Speaker 8: he never went back, which is hard to believe, but

1932
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 8: that is true.

1933
01:39:57,600 --> 01:39:58,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.

1934
01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:02,960
Speaker 2: I'm just curious now, as you said, Adam, you've been

1935
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 2: covering the NFL for quite a while. Right now, we've

1936
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 2: talked in the past, how training camps have changed dramatically

1937
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Speaker 2: over the years. Is it more difficult now when you

1938
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:14,200
Speaker 2: go to these training camps to get a feel of

1939
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Speaker 2: where a team is, because I mean, just the other day,

1940
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:20,719
Speaker 2: my family, my kids, they all went out. They're friends

1941
01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:23,599
Speaker 2: of Tyler Higbee, and it was invited by Tyler come

1942
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:27,120
Speaker 2: down a RAMS camp down there in Irvine. And my

1943
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:29,240
Speaker 2: boys have been to camps before, they went back to

1944
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 2: Charger camps way back in the San Diego days, and

1945
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Speaker 2: they're like, dad, man, there's nothing going on, Like there's

1946
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:38,479
Speaker 2: just nothing really going on anymore where you can really

1947
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:40,559
Speaker 2: get a feel, you know, as this team sharp, are

1948
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:43,640
Speaker 2: they doing something? Nothing seems to be happening. But I mean,

1949
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:47,280
Speaker 2: obviously you're a lot more focused on this. So is

1950
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:49,560
Speaker 2: it more difficult now to get a feel for a

1951
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:52,639
Speaker 2: team where they are when you're going to these training camps.

1952
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Speaker 8: Well, I'm going to give you an example where not

1953
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Speaker 8: only was I wrong. So I went to Jacksonville last summer, right,

1954
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:02,160
Speaker 8: you know, I just wanted you know, I got Bucks

1955
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:05,760
Speaker 8: Camp and Jaguars Camp in about three hours from each other,

1956
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Speaker 8: show I might as well go, right, And they have

1957
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 8: the practice at Episcopal High School, which is pretty close

1958
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:14,760
Speaker 8: to their complex, but they have their they had a

1959
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:18,320
Speaker 8: new practice facility being built which just opened. And remember

1960
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 8: this is off the Vermeer experience, which is terrible. And

1961
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:23,400
Speaker 8: I remember being there and I talked to so and

1962
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:26,840
Speaker 8: I said, hey, someone in the front office is how's

1963
01:41:27,479 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 8: how's everybody going, goes well, Doug Peterson's stantirebroam higher. He's

1964
01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:34,920
Speaker 8: they've got a greade vibe going. But there's no way

1965
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:36,560
Speaker 8: you could think about it. Lats Vegas had them for

1966
01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:38,479
Speaker 8: five and a half wins. By the way, I like

1967
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:41,679
Speaker 8: the under I was wrong. A's on your question, Steve.

1968
01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:44,439
Speaker 8: There's just no way you can tell I didn't see it.

1969
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 8: I'm not a lot. I just never saw it. But

1970
01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:49,120
Speaker 8: the Jaguars, no one else did. We could talk all

1971
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:51,559
Speaker 8: you want about how great their schedule was and out

1972
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:54,120
Speaker 8: of this great division, but nobody saw it. And that

1973
01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 8: goes on your question. There's sometimes you can't see it.

1974
01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 8: I would say with Eagles. I was with the Eagles

1975
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:03,120
Speaker 8: in Burial High last year. They were they had to

1976
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:05,599
Speaker 8: join practice with him, and someone for the Brown said,

1977
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:07,360
Speaker 8: I said this team might be a super Bowl team Philly.

1978
01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:09,559
Speaker 8: I'm like, wow, And how do you say that? He goes,

1979
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 8: Are you saying you're looking at this roster? So what

1980
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:16,599
Speaker 8: happened was peoples kicked their ass and practices, and that's

1981
01:42:16,840 --> 01:42:19,240
Speaker 8: you could you can tell sometimes I will tell you, Steve,

1982
01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:21,479
Speaker 8: answer your question. There's some time now you could be

1983
01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:23,559
Speaker 8: full of where you go, wow, this team is really good.

1984
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:26,160
Speaker 8: He can't. You can't always tell me by a look

1985
01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:28,320
Speaker 8: at a depth chart. You just you see the talent level.

1986
01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:31,160
Speaker 8: You see the explosion. You see the quarterbacks. You know

1987
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:33,720
Speaker 8: if the guy improved he was a young quarterback. And

1988
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 8: that's what happened with the Eagles last season. You could

1989
01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:37,600
Speaker 8: just see it in train a campaig looking they were

1990
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:39,000
Speaker 8: probably going to be pretty good.

1991
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:44,439
Speaker 4: Adam, everyone looks like a super Bowl team. To the Browns, Yeah,

1992
01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:48,040
Speaker 4: I guess so, yes, so yeah, Hey, I I was

1993
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:52,360
Speaker 4: with Stephen Jones recently and just talking to him. They

1994
01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:54,960
Speaker 4: got that Digs deal done. You know, it's not going

1995
01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:57,639
Speaker 4: to be long where they have to get Michael Parsons done.

1996
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:01,720
Speaker 4: Dak Prescott. It is amazing that they keep having to

1997
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:05,639
Speaker 4: go back. Uh and Prescott will end up no matter

1998
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:09,000
Speaker 4: what they do this season, he'll end up getting what

1999
01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:12,639
Speaker 4: fifty million dollars a year, right, He'll get He'll get

2000
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:17,240
Speaker 4: more than Mahomes because that's what the market dictates. It's

2001
01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:20,600
Speaker 4: kind of it's wild, but that's where we are with

2002
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:23,960
Speaker 4: these quarterbacks. Part of that is the Cowboys fault with

2003
01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:27,880
Speaker 4: what the way they've managed his contract, But isn't that

2004
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:30,720
Speaker 4: remarkable Adam that they that's gonna mean, like we're already there,

2005
01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:33,519
Speaker 4: Like his deal ends up after I think the twenty

2006
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:36,639
Speaker 4: twenty four season, so they already have to start thinking

2007
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:39,960
Speaker 4: about getting his deal done because that's important. You got

2008
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:42,200
Speaker 4: to get his deal done at some point to know

2009
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:43,679
Speaker 4: what you can do with the rest of the roster.

2010
01:43:44,479 --> 01:43:48,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, because honestly, if you look at his cap numbers, yeah,

2011
01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 8: that's what they're motivated for. And look, they've just gotten

2012
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:53,000
Speaker 8: only Cooker's deal done.

2013
01:43:53,320 --> 01:43:54,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right.

2014
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Speaker 8: Across the big problems you always had, and you go

2015
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 8: go back to Emmitt Smith when he foolishly weighted way

2016
01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:01,960
Speaker 8: waited them. It held out, as you know, and then

2017
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:04,639
Speaker 8: Jerry had it back in the back up that brings

2018
01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 8: truck back then and that was a mistake. And you

2019
01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:10,320
Speaker 8: saw it as Bryan's deal. You've seen it over the years.

2020
01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:14,400
Speaker 8: He just waits too long. And yeah, now with Dak,

2021
01:44:14,479 --> 01:44:16,680
Speaker 8: now you say fifty million. Now we just saw these

2022
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:18,639
Speaker 8: other deals get fifty three to fifty four million.

2023
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2024
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:21,920
Speaker 8: Wait, you see Joe Burrow's deal when that gets done.

2025
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:25,200
Speaker 8: So yeah, look, and I know Dak's coming off of

2026
01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:28,280
Speaker 8: a tough year. It's the first really disappointing year. I've

2027
01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:30,160
Speaker 8: spoken to bounce Back. I was, by the way I

2028
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:34,720
Speaker 8: was with the covers last week, an ox start. This

2029
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 8: is the deepest roster I think they put together in years.

2030
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:40,600
Speaker 8: They might be the NFL's deepest team. At corner, I

2031
01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:44,280
Speaker 8: don't see a particular weakness receiver. They're good with cooks

2032
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 8: now and gallops off the ACL injury. I do have

2033
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:49,479
Speaker 8: a little bit of an issue at running back and

2034
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:52,639
Speaker 8: back of Pollard. They just don't have anybody and powered

2035
01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:55,200
Speaker 8: as a full time back. I think you got to

2036
01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:57,280
Speaker 8: ask yourself this question, how much volume could he handle

2037
01:44:57,280 --> 01:45:00,240
Speaker 8: it that position at running back? But he's explosive. They're

2038
01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:02,560
Speaker 8: really good by the way, they're gonna push Philly in

2039
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:05,000
Speaker 8: that NFCS in the division which no one's wonted back

2040
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:06,880
Speaker 8: to back since two thousand and three.

2041
01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's been a long time. We were talking

2042
01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:10,160
Speaker 3: about that a little bit earlier.

2043
01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 2: I also told Matt at some point, the football gods

2044
01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:15,160
Speaker 2: have got to smile down on the Cowboys, right.

2045
01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:17,840
Speaker 8: It's the most ridiculous. It's the most ridiculous record in

2046
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:20,080
Speaker 8: the NFL four teams. And know im I got to

2047
01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:20,960
Speaker 8: repeat for twenty years of me.

2048
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:24,360
Speaker 2: You got to kidding me anyway, Yeah, it's absolutely crazy.

2049
01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:26,840
Speaker 2: Here's the only problem I have right now at them.

2050
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:29,559
Speaker 2: So we got the Hall of Fame game under behind us,

2051
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:31,920
Speaker 2: and obviously the great ceremonies today with the new Hall

2052
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:32,679
Speaker 2: of Fame class.

2053
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 3: So I'm ready for the season.

2054
01:45:34,280 --> 01:45:37,200
Speaker 2: I look up and it's August fifth, and the first

2055
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 2: regular season game is until September seventh. These are like

2056
01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:44,440
Speaker 2: the longest three weeks coming up on my NFL schedule,

2057
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:47,840
Speaker 2: trying to get through all these preseason games. But this

2058
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 2: man here will take us through every step of the way.

2059
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:52,800
Speaker 2: Adam here the absolute best. Thanks so much, have a

2060
01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:54,559
Speaker 2: great weekend. We'll talk to you next Saturday.

2061
01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:56,040
Speaker 8: All right, guys, thank you.

2062
01:45:56,320 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 2: That's Adam Kaplan our Fox Sports Radio NFL Insider. Let's

2063
01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 2: find out what is trending right now, Kevin wired is

2064
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:05,240
Speaker 2: what times your flight?

2065
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:08,840
Speaker 3: Ten o'clock CLA Civic time, So Civic time.

2066
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:12,600
Speaker 9: Got some time to kill before wow one, before I

2067
01:46:12,760 --> 01:46:16,519
Speaker 9: leave here and before heading to the airports. So Buffalo

2068
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:18,479
Speaker 9: Wild Wings will be where I hang out for about

2069
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:21,120
Speaker 9: an hour because the airport food and drinks are double

2070
01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:21,599
Speaker 9: the price.

2071
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:26,720
Speaker 3: Oh but double if you're lucky. If you're lucky double yeah, and.

2072
01:46:26,720 --> 01:46:28,559
Speaker 9: The food isn't any better, So I mean, may as

2073
01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:31,719
Speaker 9: well just go with what I know and get myself

2074
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:32,920
Speaker 9: all ready for my trip there.

2075
01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:35,880
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure everyone's buzzing about the complete demise of

2076
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:36,880
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve.

2077
01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:39,599
Speaker 9: That's been the talk of the nation for the last

2078
01:46:39,640 --> 01:46:41,840
Speaker 9: couple of days, and it really is sad seeing the

2079
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:47,400
Speaker 9: premiere West Coast conference in college athletics circle the drain.

2080
01:46:47,560 --> 01:46:50,280
Speaker 9: That's really what's happening as the PAC twelve. The death

2081
01:46:50,479 --> 01:46:55,080
Speaker 9: bells are tolling. Oregon, Washington have gone to the Big ten,

2082
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:56,360
Speaker 9: or at least they' say they're going to the Big

2083
01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:58,880
Speaker 9: ten for the twenty twenty four season, and with the

2084
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:01,240
Speaker 9: Riding on the Wall, Arizon On, Arizona State and Utah

2085
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:03,840
Speaker 9: also hitting the exits, they are going to the Big

2086
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:07,439
Speaker 9: twelve also for the twenty twenty four seasons. So California, Stanford,

2087
01:47:07,479 --> 01:47:09,880
Speaker 9: Oregon State, Washington State have to figure out what they're

2088
01:47:09,880 --> 01:47:12,400
Speaker 9: gonna do. They're the only remaining members of what, at

2089
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:15,360
Speaker 9: least right now is known as the PAC twelve. But

2090
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:20,000
Speaker 9: everything's still in flux because the ACC, which seems like

2091
01:47:20,160 --> 01:47:22,920
Speaker 9: it is the most intact conference they've got a granted rights.

2092
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:25,280
Speaker 9: They've got a long term TV deal until twenty thirty six,

2093
01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:29,920
Speaker 9: but with the SEC the Big Ten surpassing them, schools

2094
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:34,280
Speaker 9: like Florida State, for example, are making noise about possibly

2095
01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:37,160
Speaker 9: breaking that granted rights before the twenty thirty six season

2096
01:47:37,280 --> 01:47:40,360
Speaker 9: comes as a means of possibly making more money. So

2097
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:43,759
Speaker 9: things are really fluid right now. In college athletics, wouldn't

2098
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:46,160
Speaker 9: surprise me if we heard a couple of other major moves,

2099
01:47:47,320 --> 01:47:49,320
Speaker 9: if not this summer, at least in the next year

2100
01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:52,640
Speaker 9: or two. In Major League Baseball, we do have a

2101
01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 9: few games going on right now. The Rangers have added

2102
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:58,000
Speaker 9: another run to making eight to six over the Marlins

2103
01:47:58,360 --> 01:48:00,559
Speaker 9: in the top of the eighth inning. Miami have two

2104
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:02,439
Speaker 9: to one in one out in the top of the

2105
01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:05,080
Speaker 9: eighth inning, but the Marlins were up five to nothing

2106
01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 9: in this game before the Rangers scored seven unanswered, so

2107
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:10,040
Speaker 9: it is now an eight to six game, but the

2108
01:48:10,080 --> 01:48:12,040
Speaker 9: Marlins trying to see if they can at least get

2109
01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 9: a run on the board. Here in Fenway Park, it's

2110
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:16,920
Speaker 9: the Blue Jays with a four to three lead over

2111
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:18,920
Speaker 9: the Red Sox. They're in the top of the ninth inning.

2112
01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:21,920
Speaker 9: Blue Jays up to bat Nationals adding a run. It's

2113
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:23,560
Speaker 9: seven to three over the Reds. They are in the

2114
01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:27,080
Speaker 9: bottom of the ninth finning, last chance for Cincinnati Phillies

2115
01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:28,599
Speaker 9: with an early two to one lead over the World

2116
01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:30,840
Speaker 9: They're still in the middle of the second inning in

2117
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:33,720
Speaker 9: Philadelphia and we've had three games go final. Yankees over

2118
01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:35,720
Speaker 9: the Astros three to one, Tigers on top of the

2119
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:38,600
Speaker 9: Rays four to two. The Cubs hold hold off a

2120
01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:41,639
Speaker 9: comeback attempt from the Braves eight to six. The final

2121
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:45,560
Speaker 9: at Wrigley Women's World Cup Spain knocking Switzerland out of

2122
01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:48,400
Speaker 9: the tournament. They beat them five to one in advance

2123
01:48:48,439 --> 01:48:51,400
Speaker 9: to the quarterfinals. Same for Japan. They bounced Norway three

2124
01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:54,040
Speaker 9: to one, and in another amount of sixteen match set

2125
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:57,040
Speaker 9: for tonight, Netherlands will face South Africa at ten o'clock

2126
01:48:57,080 --> 01:49:00,599
Speaker 9: Eastern on Fox. As for the US women's nowational team,

2127
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:03,040
Speaker 9: it'll be in early morning no matter where you are

2128
01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:06,800
Speaker 9: in America, five am Eastern, two am Pacific on Fox.

2129
01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:10,080
Speaker 9: Sweden and the United States for the right to go

2130
01:49:10,360 --> 01:49:14,760
Speaker 9: to the quarterfinals, and they say nothing really happens in preseason. Well,

2131
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:16,880
Speaker 9: the Saints, I'm sure wish that could have been the case,

2132
01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:21,000
Speaker 9: because Dennis Allen saying that Eno Benjamin has been diagnosed

2133
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:23,439
Speaker 9: with a torn achilles so a season likely over. And

2134
01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:27,400
Speaker 9: remember Alba Kamara is gonna miss his first three games

2135
01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:29,720
Speaker 9: because of a suspension. So that running back room in

2136
01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:31,439
Speaker 9: New Orleans getting a little thin over there.

2137
01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:33,960
Speaker 2: Back to you guys, all right, Kevin, great job, enjoy

2138
01:49:34,040 --> 01:49:37,880
Speaker 2: your trip up to NOCAL once again. This is Fox

2139
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Speaker 2: Sports Saturday. Steve Hartman, Matt Mosley with you. We're live

2140
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:44,920
Speaker 2: from the tiraq dot com studios. So, you know, in

2141
01:49:45,080 --> 01:49:48,640
Speaker 2: talking with Adam Matt about you know, seeing whether or

2142
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:51,320
Speaker 2: not a team is there. I'm thinking back to a

2143
01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:53,639
Speaker 2: year ago, like at this time, if I had done

2144
01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:58,599
Speaker 2: a four team parlay with all four of these teams

2145
01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:04,520
Speaker 2: having a winning record before last season, the Jacksonville Jaguars,

2146
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:10,520
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Detroit Lions, and the Seattle Seahawks.

2147
01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:14,800
Speaker 2: If I had played that four team parlay, I probably

2148
01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:16,120
Speaker 2: wouldn't even be sitting here right now.

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Speaker 3: I'd belong into retirement.

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Speaker 2: Would I would be sitting on Easy Street. The fact

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Speaker 2: that all four of those teams had winning records. So

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Speaker 2: when you look at the roster of thirty two NFL

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Speaker 2: teams and you look at teams that did not have

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Speaker 2: a good season in twenty twenty two. I mean teams

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Speaker 2: like the Colts or the Raiders, or the Broncos or

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01:50:40,240 --> 01:50:46,000
Speaker 2: the Bears, you know, the Rams.

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Speaker 3: Which give me a team.

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Speaker 2: That you're saying, forget twenty twenty two, we're going to

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Speaker 2: see the most improved team from a year ago in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. Do you have a team or two that

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Speaker 2: you're already looking at like I'm smelling bounce back in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 4: Well, we talked about someone earlier in the program, and

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Speaker 4: I do think Sean Payton can have a huge impact

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Speaker 4: on the Broncos. And I was watching the other night,

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Speaker 4: by the way, and I was joking about the Browns

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01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:29,600
Speaker 4: earlier with Adam and saying that, boy, they looked like

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Speaker 4: a super Bowl team the Eagles last year. And I thought, well,

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Speaker 4: that Browns have that thought about a lot of teams

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Speaker 4: that play against them. But the Browns are a team

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Speaker 4: this season that obviously they're going to have a full

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Speaker 4: year from their quarterback. And every time you talk about

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Speaker 4: their quarterback, you know, there seems to be you have

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Speaker 4: to talk about the stuff involved that he's been a

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Speaker 4: part of. But I mean he is an elite quarterback,

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Speaker 4: and so I look at like stocks that are down

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Speaker 4: like that, like someone that has an elite I mean,

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Speaker 4: you just have to look at the quarterback play and

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Speaker 4: you have to kind of follow everybody around and go, okay,

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Speaker 4: who's where. And then I would say the easy one

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Speaker 4: would be the Jets because of Rogers. And I go

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Speaker 4: all the way back to when Farv went to the Vikings,

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Speaker 4: and I remember saying, at that very moment, everything just

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Speaker 4: changed about the NFC with this move everything. This is

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Speaker 4: an enormous impact because that team was ready to win

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Speaker 4: and they just needed the right person in there, and

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Speaker 4: that season they almost went to the Super Bowl. I'm

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Speaker 4: not saying the Jets are going to do that for sure,

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Speaker 4: but when you get someone late in their career like

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Speaker 4: Farv was for Minnesota, like Rogers could be for the Jets,

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Speaker 4: that's when you see. So I'm looking at those teams

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Speaker 4: that have elite quarterbacks that will have a galvanizing impact

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Speaker 4: on those teams.

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Speaker 1: And I look at like where Garoppolo people like that.

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Speaker 4: I always look about where quarterbacks that like always win

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Speaker 4: no matter no matter what you say about them, or

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Speaker 4: oh he's not that great, but like wherever they end

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Speaker 4: up or whatever roster they're on, they seem to have

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Speaker 4: a really calming impact. That's kind of what I look at.

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Speaker 4: So I would say those teams I just mentioned.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Russell Wilson. Look the Broncos last season, and this

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Speaker 2: is why Hacka was such a disaster. They were last

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Speaker 2: in the league in scoring, last thirty two out of

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Speaker 2: thirty two teams. The lowest scoring team in the NFL

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Speaker 2: was the Denver Broncos with Russell Wilson. That's how bad

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01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:56,600
Speaker 2: it was with Hackett. It's got to get better. It

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Speaker 2: has to the thing about it is and why I

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01:53:59,240 --> 01:54:01,640
Speaker 2: love Sean pay If you watch all the years of

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Speaker 2: Drew Brees. As Drew Brees's arm strength diminished, Sean Payton

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Speaker 2: changed the offense. The one thing he knew about Drew

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Speaker 2: Brees he's accurate. Now he's not accurate twenty five yards

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Speaker 2: down the field, but he's accurate fifteen yards, ten yards.

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Speaker 2: He just shortened the field, maintaining an insanely high completion

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Speaker 2: percentage for Drew Brees during those late years. So this

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Speaker 2: is how receptive is Russell Wilson going to be? Because

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Speaker 2: Sean Payton will force his will.

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Speaker 3: On Russell Wilson. I promise you that I could.

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Speaker 2: Gave Wilson the room and found out one serious flaw

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Speaker 2: in Russell Wilson's game. He's not a born leader. He's

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Speaker 2: not a locker room guy. Sean Payton will assume that

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Speaker 2: role as the head coach of the Denver Broncos. Now,

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Speaker 2: can he figure out an offense for Russell Wilson to

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Speaker 2: be effected at this stage.

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Speaker 3: Of his career. That is going to be the challenge.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait. I just can't wait. All right.

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Speaker 2: On the other side, we continue to give little sense

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Speaker 2: of what was today with the Hall of Fame, the

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Speaker 2: big change in college football, with the demise of the

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Speaker 2: PAC twelve, NFL preseason football underway.

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Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Hit in the air at the deep right center field.

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Speaker 3: That ball is high, it is far, it is gone.

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Speaker 2: It's clab day, and like a good glabor Toros is

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Speaker 2: there and the Yankees now take a three.

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Speaker 1: To one lead.

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Speaker 3: A ground ball tour of the middle Voltmey Fields, Fires

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Speaker 3: got them ball game over.

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Speaker 1: Yankees win far.

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Speaker 3: Yankees. Oh, when one run.

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Speaker 1: On two hips and the Yankees win the ball game.

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Speaker 3: Three to one, that's the Yankees Radio Network.

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Speaker 2: And with the Houston loss and the Rangers leading right now,

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Speaker 2: Texas could be extending their lead in that Al West.

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Speaker 2: that help out. Chris jumps in late after Iowa. Sam

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Speaker 2: hangs out Chris any predictions for USA in their next

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Speaker 2: World Cup match.

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Speaker 3: As we've hit the knockout round, pain pain wow. I

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Speaker 3: I look, you've had two draws in a row. It's

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Speaker 3: gotten worse and worse.

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Speaker 10: Your best defender in Rose level in this World Cup

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01:56:36,920 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 10: is not going to be able to play because of

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Speaker 10: a second yellow card. Sweden has had a lot of

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Speaker 10: goals on some very good teams. They could maybe pull

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Speaker 10: it out, but I don't even think they're the best

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Speaker 10: team in this knockout round so far, anywhow like they've

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Speaker 10: just their their lineup hasn't been set. The only you've

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Speaker 10: only had two players score goals. This isn't the World

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Speaker 10: Cup team that was here four years ago. It's a

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Speaker 10: lot of young players and they're showing more like how

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Speaker 10: nervous they were at the Olympics than they do any

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Speaker 10: kind of World Cup.

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Speaker 2: For him, unbelievable. Well, that would be a stunner, that's

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Speaker 2: for sure. Kevin wirre doing a great job. And of course,

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Speaker 2: Kevin looking forward to all the stories from your trip

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Speaker 2: up north. And of course Randon is our brilliant producer here, Maddie.

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Speaker 2: He wears a number of hats, although every time I

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Speaker 2: look up it's a pod race cap on this man.

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Speaker 2: He is very true blue to San Diego. Brandon, you

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Speaker 2: said that you had a couple of sound bites today

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Speaker 2: from the Pro Football Hall of Fame ceremonies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a good one from Zach Thomas, and

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Speaker 3: it kind of relates. Steve and I were talking during

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Speaker 3: the break, so I wanted to play this for him.

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Speaker 3: It was kind of funny that Zach Thomas mentioned this.

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Speaker 1: There's one person whose name I yet to mention.

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Speaker 11: His poster hung on my wall in college, and he

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Speaker 11: was everything I wanted to be as a football player.

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Speaker 11: He was my inspiration. He became my teammate in fred.

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Speaker 11: Oh he's not here physically, he's here in spirit into

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Speaker 11: the busts in that building behind me. I'm truly honored

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Speaker 11: to join him. Junior Sale love you, buddy.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Matt.

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Speaker 2: Obviously I knew Junior extremely well. I used to host

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Speaker 2: all the events for him when he was the King

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Speaker 2: of San Diego. Tragedy, absolute tragedy. I'll tell you what

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Speaker 2: was also a tragedy is that when he was inducted

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Speaker 2: into the Pro Football Hall of Fame that if you

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Speaker 2: are not living, they don't even give the family a

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Speaker 2: gold jacket.

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Speaker 3: Really, come on, I don't know why they do that.

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Speaker 2: Also, by the way, Charger roots Don Coriel, who I've

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Speaker 2: been screaming for years to get into Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Here's what they had on the Coriel induction.

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Speaker 1: Our family would like to.

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Speaker 4: Thank the Chargers and the selectors and of course the

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Speaker 4: Pro Football Hall.

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Speaker 3: Of Fame for this exceptional honor. Ladies and gentlemen. Eric

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Speaker 3: Coriole has landed in Campton.

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Speaker 2: That is his daughter again Matt when we talk about

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Speaker 2: impact on the sport. John Madden and Joe Gibbs started

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Speaker 2: their careers in coaching as assistance under Don Coreal when

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Speaker 2: he was at San Diego State, and in both of

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Speaker 2: their Hall of Fame induction speeches, they said, it's a

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Speaker 2: little hard to accept our presence in the Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame when the person that we literally learned everything from

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Speaker 2: is not in the Hall of Fame. So they finally

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Speaker 2: got it right with Don Coreo.

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Speaker 4: And that's the reason that the committee that gets those

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Speaker 4: veterans in. I mean, that was crazy to wait that

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Speaker 4: long for such an innovator. I don't know if they

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Speaker 4: held the Super Bowl thing against him, but when somebody's

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Speaker 4: that much of an innovator, he should have been in

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Speaker 4: twenty five thirty years ago. So glad they finally got

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Speaker 4: it right and that his family was able to have

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Speaker 4: that moment, very poignant moment from his daughter.

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Speaker 3: All right, So now you're heading back to Oxnart. Is

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Speaker 3: that your plan here?

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Speaker 8: Man?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Maybe dropping back to see the Cowboys. I'd like to

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Speaker 4: see some padded practices.

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Speaker 3: You don't like the marshmallow helmets and all that kind

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Speaker 3: of stuff.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I like the weather.

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Speaker 3: The weather is good.

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Speaker 2: Well, like I said, all right, you're up in Oxnard.

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Speaker 2: If you want ahead, just a little north on the

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Speaker 2: one oh one boom stop by the Hartman House. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'll have an invite, Hey, Mac, great stuff is always

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Speaker 2: always great to catch up with you, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: There's so many things going on in the world.

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Speaker 2: Sports. You found the right place. Keep it right here.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio.