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Speaker 1: when did you first start watching film? But he started

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Speaker 1: when he was in high school. Um, I've been watching

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Speaker 1: it for a while. Like I said, football is my thing. Um,

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Speaker 1: I remember watching Prime Time with Chris berman Beck when

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Speaker 1: I lived in Cleveland and just watching highlights, learning, going

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Speaker 1: into my dad's office and Cleveland, spending time there trying

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Speaker 1: to watch film. Like I said, I don't think I

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Speaker 1: knew what I was doing, but I was trying. So, kid,

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Speaker 1: you're watching cartoons you were watching I mean, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to spend time around football, spend time around

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Speaker 1: my dad.