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This is Patriots Unfiltered, presented 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 3: by Toyota's official website for deals, Buy a Toyota dot com. 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered, a special edition Live 12 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: from training Camp. I'm Fred Kurz, joined by Paul Parrillo, 13 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: Mike do So later Evan Lazarre, and we are high 14 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: above the practice feels here at Jillette Stadium. As you 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: can see, the players are in their conditioning run to 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: kick off practice. You just heard Bill Belichick's press conference 17 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: and today is the first day of pads, so it's 18 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: always a big day in training camp. 19 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm hoping to see a couple of different things 20 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 4: that we haven't seen a ton of in recent years, 21 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 4: but we always like the the one on ones with 22 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 4: the offensive defensive lineman, some pass protection, pass rush, but 23 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 4: I'd like to see a little goal line work in 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 4: some team settings today. I'm pretty sure we'll get some 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 4: live reps in the red zone, but I'd like to 26 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 4: see some running game work in the you know, near 27 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 4: the goal line. Haven't seen a lot of that in 28 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 4: recent years. I'm hoping today we might change to. 29 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: So obviously pads means more contact. What are some of 30 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: the you know, in the weeds type of things that 31 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: we should be looking for today, like jamming off the line, 32 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: things like that. 33 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, those are good things. 34 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 6: I mean, I think, as Paul said, I think the 35 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 6: one on ones are always you know, a lot of 36 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 6: fun just to see guys line up one on one. 37 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 6: And you know, Kem White yesterday saying I'm excited to 38 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 6: see what the physicality of the NFL is actually like. 39 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 6: So you've heard plenty of it over the last four days. 40 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 6: If really the first those days of practice are really 41 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 6: a continuation of OTA. So today this is training camp. Now, 42 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 6: this is really when evaluation is going to start. We'll 43 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 6: see how much eleven on eleven, seven on seven, that 44 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 6: kind of stuff you get but like you said, fred 45 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 6: I think. 46 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 5: You know, guys getting pressed on the line. 47 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 6: Can you know, some of the smaller rookies can of 48 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 6: to Mario Douglas, who you know had a pretty strong 49 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 6: day yesterday. 50 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 5: How's he going to do, you know when he goes 51 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 5: up against. 52 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 6: A Jonathan Jones, experienced NFL cornerback who knows how to 53 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 6: you know, get your hand, get his hands on you, 54 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 6: not let you get off the line. So those are 55 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 6: certainly some of the things to watch as well as 56 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 6: just some of the rookies. Yeah, they react to this 57 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 6: first chance at contact, and. 58 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 4: We talk a lot, Freddy about there's no tackling. You 59 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 4: don't really see a lot of guys get tackled to 60 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 4: the ground during training camp, but you will see the 61 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 4: lineman creating holes in the running game. And you want 62 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 4: to see you know, last year was pretty apparent as 63 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 4: soon as those pads went on when they were working 64 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,119 Speaker 4: on the zone stuff and it just wasn't there. Yeah, 65 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 4: there was you know, penetration on the coming in off 66 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 4: the edges and they really never got anything going. So, 67 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 4: I mean those are some small things to keep an 68 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 4: eye on. You know, is there more running room the 69 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 4: lineman creating any kind of movement on the defensive front. 70 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 4: And then the stuff that Mike talked about to me 71 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 4: is at the top of the list. I want to 72 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 4: see how the receivers are dealing with some press coverage 73 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 4: and if it looks the same when you know, when 74 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 4: they're running their round and you know. 75 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: You might you know, pressure around the quarterback might be real, 76 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like so it's it's today. 77 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: If there's pressure around the quarterback, it's earned, you know, 78 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: because everybody's you know, so there's a likelihood that they 79 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: might blow plays dead. Quicker, I would. 80 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 6: Think, certainly something to watch because I think, you know, 81 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 6: although the offense had a better day yesterday, maybe primarily 82 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 6: fueled by the second team's performance, you know, defenses has 83 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 6: carried the day through the first four non padded practices, 84 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 6: all in the red zone. 85 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 5: A lot of factors in the defenses. 86 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 6: Favor in terms of their experience, a bunch of veterans 87 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 6: who've all played together for a while, and offense has 88 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 6: a new offensive coordinator. Not to mention, you're in the 89 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 6: red zone where there's just so much tight space it's 90 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 6: it's hard to really do a lot offensively. 91 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 5: You've got to be right on top of things. 92 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 6: So a little bit more chance now for the defense 93 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 6: to I think, I think maybe even take more control. 94 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 6: I just I want to see how things look on 95 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 6: the right side of the offensive line. I think that's 96 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 6: a spot that you've already seen some juggling. It seems 97 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 6: like they have some questions again. Four days into camp, 98 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 6: you got questions on the right side of your line. 99 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: Not a great situation to have. We're just looking at 100 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: Matt Judah. It doesn't look like he's got shoulder pads 101 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: on and definitely not pants, so he's gonna be a 102 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: limited participant once again here in practice. As we watch 103 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: them stretch out, they're going into their group drills right now. 104 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: Any notable absences, I know you guys have been diligently 105 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: taking attendance. 106 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 6: Well, Kaishan Boudi is back after just missing yesterday, so 107 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 6: you know, good for a rookie anytime you miss time 108 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 6: and in training camp you're getting way behind, so good 109 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 6: to have him back out. And I think a couple 110 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 6: just new ones we're still trying to confirm. But Terrez 111 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 6: Hall fifty nine, haven't spotted him yet, and Anthony Jennings 112 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 6: number thirty. 113 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: Three were two could be here. 114 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 4: We we'll probably get a little bit Jake Andrews because 115 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 4: I'm still missing him from yesterday. 116 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: Yeah he's out too, he's out. 117 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, same as yesterday was his first one along 118 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 5: with Booty. 119 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 7: I got thirty three. 120 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty three. Okay, that's a good one. 121 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 6: I mean, I just I've been talking a lot about 122 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 6: how Finn the the depth is at outside linebacker, and 123 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 6: you've seen Anthony Jennings get you know, plenty of opportunities 124 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 6: here with Matthew Judon kind of slowly working his way in. 125 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 6: So Jennings is a guy today that you know you 126 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 6: really want to look at. I want to look at 127 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 6: Ronnie Perkins. I mean, it's just there's not a lot 128 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 6: of depth. You really have four guys and it's Uce 129 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 6: and Jude on at the top is the stand up 130 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 6: outside linebackers. 131 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 5: We know those guys can play, but. 132 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 6: If an injury were to befall one of them, I 133 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 6: think that the drop off is pretty quick, and I 134 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 6: think they'd be kind of scrambling a little bit. We'll 135 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 6: say the ability of Bentley and to Vibe play a 136 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 6: little bit on the edge that that would help maybe 137 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 6: mitigate that risk a little bit, but I don't love 138 00:05:58,360 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 6: the depth that they have. 139 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 5: And I think it Jude On injury would really be 140 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 5: a time Montgomery. Still not Here's still no time Montgomery. 141 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 5: So that'll be three straight practices for him. 142 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, that's uh, you know, I saw the collision and 143 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: it didn't look like it was you know, a twisted ankle. 144 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: He got up slow, kind of was hobbling a little bit, 145 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: but not sure what the injury is. 146 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 4: So it's no, it's hard rustrate and you don't want 147 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 4: to speculate, you know. But he did kind of like 148 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 4: lunch back awkwardly, so you hope it's nothing, you know, 149 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 4: you know, and I know there was a collision, so 150 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 4: like to say that it's non. 151 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: Contact, yeah, but I was definitely contact. 152 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 4: But I think there may have been a non contact injury, 153 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 4: if that makes any sense. I think whatever happened happened 154 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 4: as he tried to lunch backward and then they ended 155 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 4: up getting tangled up. But uh, yeah, I mean when 156 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 4: Bill said day to day right away, I sort of 157 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 4: had a bad feeling, you know, the fact that he 158 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 4: even acknowledged it, you know. 159 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 6: Right, yeah, all right, Well, well maybe I mean it 160 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 6: was kind of interesting yesterday. We did not watch practice 161 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 6: with Paul, so I kind of sometimes when this happens. Paul, 162 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 6: as much as I enjoy watching practice with you, we. 163 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 4: Did the podcast to go. 164 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 5: We did, I know, we got a little bit of page. 165 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 6: We did, except I thought I thought, I thought that 166 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 6: that they hit that the rookie kicker hit all of them. 167 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 6: But you, you were down there, you were well, that's 168 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 6: what I realized about you, Paul. You're You're really good 169 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 6: with the details, and sometimes I think myself I zone 170 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 6: out on some of the special team stuff. 171 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 5: But you're always right there because you're always so into 172 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 5: special teams. 173 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 4: So you're a bad guy. 174 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: You come with a smile, giving you a compliment, smiling assassin. 175 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 7: Paul and I get all the flak for being negative 176 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 7: and the big smile on. 177 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 6: Let's just say, the current record hold record holder for 178 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 6: the most negative person to ever go on the Six 179 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 6: Ring podcast is this guy right here. 180 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 4: Anybody but that Dessaults. 181 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 6: Even Andy was like, God, he seems down on the team. 182 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 6: I don't know what I said that to get that. 183 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: But yesterday was a better day for the offense. 184 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I was thinking. 185 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 6: We could talk about a little bit because you know, 186 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 6: I thought it was good, but I mean, I don't know, 187 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 6: I feel like we all wanted the narrative to be that, oh, 188 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 6: they're starting, but you know, I still it was okay, 189 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 6: and there was some balance to what I thought was 190 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 6: the offense punched back a little bit. 191 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 4: I think that's the phrase that that Evan used when 192 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 4: we were doing our podcast, and that's what we were 193 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 4: talking about down in the know it all tent where 194 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 4: you know, you guys were too good to do yesterday. 195 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 4: You know, just there was signs of life and I 196 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 4: thought that there were a couple of really really like 197 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 4: there was nothing overly impressive from a physical standpoint to 198 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 4: those two plays that we talked about a lot with 199 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 4: Mac Jones in the in the offense, but I thought 200 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 4: the execution, the attention to detail was on point. And 201 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 4: you know, they talked. I thought Zappi talked after practice 202 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 4: and he sort of told you that these are the 203 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 4: things that we've been building toward for you know that 204 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 4: the first three days. So you want to see that 205 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 4: kind of stuff. You want to see them have success. 206 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 4: I thought last year, last summer, it was just a 207 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 4: beatdown mentally and you could sense the frustration. We heard 208 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 4: the frustration at times when they talked about it. It 209 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 4: bothered them that they didn't have a lot of periods 210 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 4: of success yesterday. And you're right, it wasn't perfect. I 211 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 4: mean there were you know, Zappi finishes his series with 212 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 4: a pick, Mac nearly had one on his last play. 213 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 4: There were several times where the quarterbacks weren't able to 214 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 4: find anybody open and had to scramble around. There were 215 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 4: several other times where they would have been just sacks anyway. 216 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 4: So it wasn't perfect. The defense was still pretty good yesterday, 217 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 4: but I just thought there were times where the offense 218 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 4: had to have felt better about itself. 219 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a conversation Evan and I had as 220 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 6: practice was wrapping up, because as much as the Patriots, 221 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 6: they love to start in the red zone and that's 222 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 6: the hardest place. But you know, we're saying, don't they 223 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 6: need to build some confidence though, Like don't you need 224 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 6: to just like have let them execute a couple plays 225 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 6: so that they start to build things. And you know, 226 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 6: it felt like early on in that session yesterday they 227 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 6: pulled back there in the middle. 228 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: Of field a little bit. 229 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 5: Maybe that's what they were doing. It seemed like that's 230 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 5: when they found their stride. 231 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 6: But I I just I wonder because even some of 232 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 6: the great throws I thought from yesterday that were kind 233 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 6: of garnering praise, I wondered if they might actually have 234 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 6: been sacks. Some of them were you know, running around. 235 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 6: I know, the mac one to GASICKI we both kind 236 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 6: of felt that that was definitely blown dead. Yeah, Bill 237 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 6: blew the whistle before that throw was made. 238 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 5: Absolutely, So I. 239 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 6: Just I'm a little bit interested to see if we're 240 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 6: going to see some downfield throws from Maca. We saw 241 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 6: those last years, but as bad as last training camp was, 242 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 6: there was occasionally he'd hit algalore down the field. 243 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 5: So now in the this was this was funny tell us. 244 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 4: We started charting whether or not Bill would have blown 245 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 4: the play dead if Zappy was the quarterback right. 246 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: The quick whistle. 247 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 4: It was a quick whistle, quick whistle. 248 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 5: But I mean, in that reguard, you go over there, 249 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 5: in that regard, I. 250 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 6: Mean, you know, all the parsing we've kind of done 251 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 6: on the throws yesterday, I mean, Zappy did have a 252 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 6: good day yesterday, and I mean you can't ignore a 253 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 6: couple downfield throws that were completed. So you haven't seen 254 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 6: those out of Mac yet though, and I'd like to 255 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 6: see those out of them. 256 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 5: I think they need to see those out of them. 257 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the most encouraging thing offensively for me 258 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 7: is that I'm starting to see the blueprint for Bill 259 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 7: O'Brien and what exactly they're gonna do schematically, and I 260 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 7: like what I'm what I'm seeing. So maybe the results 261 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 7: haven't been consistently there yet, but I think what they're 262 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 7: doing that's gonna eventually translate come September. I can see 263 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 7: the foundation being built to something that's gonna be productive. 264 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 7: So even if it's one two steps forward one step back, 265 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 7: I think it's the best way to describe yesterday. To 266 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 7: an extent, it still feels like, Okay, we can see 267 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 7: that they're going to incorporate some under center play action. 268 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 7: They're probably gonna incorporate some spacing things and some RPO 269 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 7: concepts and empty formations and different things that Bill Brian's 270 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 7: kind of always done, and especially since he was in 271 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 7: the college game in the last couple of years, but 272 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 7: are encouraging things, I think for the quarterbacks in particular, 273 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 7: and mainly Mac. I think it really fits what those 274 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 7: guys do well, on top of just the fact that 275 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 7: I like it from a schematic standpoint and it's fun 276 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 7: to break down. So yeah, I think it's It's that 277 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 7: for me, is that they're they're headed in the right direction, 278 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 7: and they have a plan of what they're trying to install. 279 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 7: And then once we get into real padded practices now 280 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 7: and in a couple of weeks, when they get out 281 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 7: to joint practices and not going up against the same 282 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 7: defense every single day, how did the results look at 283 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 7: that point, because now we're still in the install phase 284 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 7: of training camp. 285 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: Are you saying they didn't have a plan last year? 286 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 7: I'm saying that this year. And we were talking about 287 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 7: this yesterday Deuce where they had a drill going on 288 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 7: on the right side, on the right field, and it 289 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 7: was Bill O'Brien with the quarterbacks and the running backs 290 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 7: and in vinniesonce Aria was with them too, and you 291 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 7: could see they were working on a run drill with 292 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 7: the quarterbacks or handing off to the running backs, and 293 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 7: that was I could see the drill, how it would 294 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 7: translate to film and how it would translate on a 295 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 7: game field and more and more. You just see that 296 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 7: with this coaching staff, you can see the drills translating 297 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 7: to the games and you see the method to the madness, 298 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 7: and I think that that should be as encouraging as anything. 299 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm curious to Evan just to see the 300 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 6: run game today and what you know, if they do go. 301 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 5: Goal line, what does their goal line run. 302 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: Package look like. 303 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 6: I mean, they don't have a fullback anymore. We haven't 304 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 6: really seen much of the run game for obvious reasons, 305 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 6: but curious about that. One of the thing too I 306 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 6: wanted to add is I just thought the pace, the 307 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 6: kind of tempo was kind of good yesterday. With the offense, 308 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 6: it just it seemed like, especially when they were starting 309 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 6: on the middle of the field, seem like they were 310 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 6: on the same page. They were executing things you didn't 311 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 6: see last year. 312 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 5: They ran. 313 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 4: They would run five plays and sort of get down 314 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 4: to the red zone and then it was all scripted. 315 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it would stop and I think it was two 316 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: minute offense or at least four minute offense. 317 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,599 Speaker 7: So actually the drill that they're doing right now is 318 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 7: the exact same drill I was just talking about that 319 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 7: they were doing yesterday, and you can see Vinnie and Serri. 320 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 7: I think that's him with the with the play she 321 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 7: kind of in his hand, and when the running back 322 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 7: gets the ball, he's stepping in a certain direction to 323 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 7: kind of give the running back a read right of 324 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,599 Speaker 7: if this guy, if the defender goes here, where you 325 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 7: suppose to cut off of it. And those are the 326 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 7: types of things that they do in these types of 327 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 7: you know, jog throughs or walk throughs that eventually you 328 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 7: can see how this is teaching people where to go 329 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 7: and what to do, and it's it's beneficial to the players. 330 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 331 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 4: Another example of that was right in front of us 332 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 4: in the in the near field here on the left side, 333 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 4: they were doing the combo routes on the goal line 334 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 4: with slot guys going out, you know, the outside guys 335 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 4: coming in looking to create rubs. And I thought you 336 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 4: saw a variation of that kind of a concept on 337 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 4: the the Remondre Stevenson little swing for a touchdown where 338 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 4: Hunter Henry is out on the outside really just creating 339 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 4: a wall. There was nobody out there on on Stevenson 340 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 4: because there was too much. They couldn't the linebacker couldn't 341 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 4: get through the wash. And you and you can't. You 342 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 4: can't get out there. So those are the kinds of 343 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 4: things that's what they're looking to create, you know, put 344 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 4: put guys in tough situations. You're not looking you got to. 345 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 4: I know a lot of people are like, well that's 346 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 4: a that's a pick, and yeah they are. But if 347 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 4: you don't practice it, it's gonna get called every time. 348 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 4: You need to work on the timing of those kinds 349 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 4: of things. Make sure it's done in the right spot 350 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 4: on the field, inside that one yard barrier, and make 351 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 4: sure you're not making it blatantly obviously, like you can't 352 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 4: just go out and say, hey, we really need this play. 353 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 4: We got to go out and set a pick, you know, 354 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 4: so juju can get in the clear. 355 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: Right. 356 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 4: If you're not practicing it over and over and over again, 357 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 4: the timing's never going to be there. 358 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 5: You saw that. 359 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 4: I thought over here in the walkthrough, and then on 360 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 4: the right side, why when they executed it, and it's 361 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 4: just a walk in touchdown for reminder. 362 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 7: Right, And I think that's where I'm coming from with 363 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 7: it'll get there right. They're practicing these things and you 364 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 7: can see how these things are going to be effective 365 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 7: for them, and once they get the timing down, and 366 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 7: once they call it against the defense at the right 367 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 7: time and against certain opponents, they'll find out what their 368 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 7: rules are and how they switch things and things like 369 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 7: that in those types of situations, and they'll call plays 370 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 7: that counteract that. Right now, they're not calling plays against 371 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 7: their own defense to get one up on the defense. 372 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 7: They're just running plays in their playbook. Eventually, you know, 373 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 7: Bill O'Brien will know the opponent's tendencies and he'll know 374 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 7: how they defend those types of different different schemes and 375 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 7: things like that, and they'll have answers to it, hopefully. 376 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's. 377 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 7: When the results will come a little bit more. 378 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 6: I thought an interesting little tidbit from Boston Sports Journals 379 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 6: new Mike Giardi. 380 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: Congratulations Mike, a new. 381 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 6: Gig, But he wrote, spoke with some people around the league, 382 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 6: and you know, not that we need to reflect upon 383 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 6: last year's offense, but you know they were high on 384 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 6: Bill O'Brien, and you know, just said to your point, Evan, 385 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 6: that last year, when you kind of threw something they 386 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 6: weren't prepared for, they couldn't really counter punch off of it, 387 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 6: which you know that's really probably not all that surprising 388 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 6: considering you know, a new offensive coordinator been on the 389 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 6: defensive side of the ball. All of a sudden, Get 390 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 6: gets a new twist thrown at him and you know, 391 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 6: didn't quite know how to counter it. 392 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: All right, some of the offensive guys running over to 393 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: the field to join quarterbacks and skill position players. 394 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 5: Do you got to ease into the hitting today or 395 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 5: is it? I hope not? 396 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: Now you think they'll go right into goal line. 397 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 4: I don't think they'll go right into it, but I 398 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 4: would like to see, you know, at least the one 399 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 4: on one stuff that we always see and some some 400 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 4: running game work at some point, but you know we'll 401 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 4: see so hard still sort of in the the warm 402 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 4: up face, yeah, the position right, Yeah, he was here yesterday. 403 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, ye had a baby. Yeah, nice pick little girl. 404 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 6: And certainly, uh, you know, after the first four days 405 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,959 Speaker 6: were pretty crazy, yesterday was packed, but a little bit 406 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 6: more mellow today with the Monday morning practice here with 407 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 6: the stand still still still pretty good turnout though not 408 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:40,239 Speaker 6: I haven't opened the ramps up. 409 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: But have we heard anything on Lawrence guy, like, you know, 410 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: not since he talked after the first thing get resolved 411 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: or it. 412 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 4: Just said he's here, and yeah, he's a patriot. That's 413 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 4: he wouldn't really get into any of the specifics, but yeah, 414 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 4: I mean I would say that those two situations, Lawrence Guy, 415 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 4: Matthew Judah like they I would just say they're not 416 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 4: like major like headline grabbing things with their things to 417 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 4: keep an eye. 418 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: And then of course the Jack Jones situation is ongoing. 419 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: He's out there but really not running with the ones. 420 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 6: So yeah, yesterday he got a little bit of run 421 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 6: with the Ones for the first time in camp, so 422 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 6: it wasn't uh, he hasn't been totally buried. 423 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 7: But yeah, I know trees Hall is interesting. 424 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, now I saw somebody I think it might have 425 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 6: been Reese said he was limited maybe yesterday. 426 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 5: Okay, I hadn't noticed anything. 427 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 7: But so I can't speculate them. 428 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean he seems like a h a guy 429 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 6: that just can't really again and talk about another guy. 430 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 5: Who can't beat the Yeah, I mean if injury. 431 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 7: But if it's just an injury thing, then then I 432 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 7: won't speculate. But if they had to create a roster 433 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 7: spot for a certain running back that they might have 434 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 7: had visiting here a couple of days ago, if trees 435 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 7: Hall would be on the shortlist of guys that might 436 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 7: be considered a person to free up, said. 437 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: Roster spot Right. Chris Price reported that sources say that 438 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: Elliott's still in the area. 439 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 7: Well he's at the dinner another night. 440 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: Well I know that, but no, but as of this morning, 441 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: he was still around. 442 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, so would you make anything out of this still 443 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 4: in town yesterday? 444 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 5: That was the report. 445 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 4: But to you a point like, yeah, you go out 446 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 4: to dinner Saturday night, that was supposedly the day that 447 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 4: you met with the team where your flight leave Sunday morning. 448 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 4: If the report is accurate and he was still in 449 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 4: town all day Sunday, Yeah, I mean I like, I 450 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 4: like Evans's theory, like when you all of a sudden 451 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 4: there's like a random guy not out there and he's 452 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 4: not necessarily no disrespected her as all, but not considered 453 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 4: you know, a frontline player, right. 454 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 455 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 4: You always sort of wonder if you put two and 456 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 4: two together. Yeah, anybody see anybody that looks like Ezekiel 457 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 4: Elliott out that's a negative. 458 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: He would have his shirt rolled up to his boobies. Yeah, yeah, 459 00:19:58,720 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: I think it'd be fun. 460 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 5: I mean, he would probably be over there running to 461 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 5: the It. 462 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 6: Just seems like one of the shoes has to fall, 463 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 6: like Dalvin Cook's got a sign with the Jets or 464 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 6: you know, something's got to happen, and then I feel 465 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 6: like all those those guys will will. 466 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: That whole running back situation now is crazy. 467 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 5: You know. 468 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: Mike Greese was on the radio saying that, you know, 469 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, he thinks he doesn't know was looking for 470 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: what he was making at Minnesota, which is a little 471 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: over ten million a Year's yeah. 472 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 7: That's not happening. 473 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 4: Well, I don't think you're going to get him for 474 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 4: like the veteran minimum, let's put it that way. 475 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, But but you know, I'd be more 476 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: than happy to give him six million. 477 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 5: You know, Yeah, they I don't think they would. Yeah, 478 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 5: but I would, And I wouldn't disagree. 479 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, except for I don't really care about running backs. 480 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 7: I'd be wary. How can six millions? 481 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 5: Can you guys expand on me? 482 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: Though? 483 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 6: I I didn't really do a deep, deep dive on 484 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 6: the down of Ezekiah Elliot, you know. 485 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 5: But what what what really was? What happened? 486 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 7: I mean, he's just doesn't have the juice. 487 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: Every year his numbers went down from his rookie year. 488 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: He never you know, and they just went steadily down 489 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: and then Pollard came in and took whatever snaps he 490 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: had left away, and he was just a backup. You know. 491 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 7: His explosiveness has has taken a downturn. He was never 492 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 7: a home run hitter, but he always had that that 493 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 7: good initial burst to get through the line of scrimmage. 494 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 7: And he it does not look the same, especially if 495 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 7: you ask him to to run off tackle or try. 496 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: To bounce it out. 497 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 7: Can't get it. So he's got to be a guy 498 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 7: that you're coming to downhill. You want to run him 499 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 7: short yardage situations, things like that. I think he can 500 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 7: still be effective, but he's not a lead back anymore. 501 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 7: That can that can do at all? 502 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: And can he He can catch the ball a little bit, you. 503 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 7: Can pass protect for real. 504 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 4: He's a really good in the in the passing game. 505 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 5: I agree with that. 506 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 4: He's a good, good receiver and a good blocker. 507 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he'd be fine here, he'd be fine as 508 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: you know the remandres backup. 509 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, yep. 510 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 6: I continue to be a little bit intrigued by Jalen Hurd. 511 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 6: I mean, he had that nice catch yesterday. I just 512 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 6: I think he moves well, and it stands out to 513 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 6: me amongst this group of wide receivers that aren't you know, 514 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 6: the most nimble of foot, not to say that he 515 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 6: just looks athletic to me, and he's got some good size. 516 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 6: I'd love to just see him continue to make some 517 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 6: plays and you know, see him get a chance with 518 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 6: the top offense. 519 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: But a little bit of intrigued for me with him 520 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: just letting everyone know. In a minute or so, we're 521 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: gonna have to take our cameras down per rules, but 522 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: we will stay with you with our voices and we'll 523 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: tell you everything that we see going on here at practice, 524 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: but we will have to turn the cameras off. You 525 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: can email the show web radio at Patriots dot com 526 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: is the email address, or you can call us eight 527 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: five five Pats five hundred. Either way, you can engage 528 00:22:55,160 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: with us during the practice. Let's see, we have emails 529 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: coming in. 530 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 5: With the tablet today. 531 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: You're going, you know, Microsoft, trying to make it work. 532 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: Let's let's see. This is Kyle Kyle Kyley like Kyle 533 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: from Pembroke with the Mario Douglas popping off and Isaiah 534 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: Bolden playing with the two's what o the late round 535 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: or free agent rookies do you think will make an 536 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: impact now that the pads are on. 537 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean those are those are kind of the two. 538 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 6: Otherwise it's said, I'd say it's generally been pretty quiet. 539 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 5: I say, you see a Mapoo got a little bit 540 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 5: of a little bit. 541 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 6: Of time and and I guess you'd call it a 542 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 6: two minute defense playing in the middle kind of in 543 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 6: a linebacker role, like like Evan likes. 544 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 5: Big day for key On White today. 545 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 6: You know, just the same thing with offensive lineman though 546 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 6: it's tough with you know, Jake Andrews has been out 547 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 6: City South has been kind of buried on the depth 548 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 6: chart and kind of waiting for Mafia. See if you 549 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 6: get it's more of a more of a shot at 550 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 6: a right right guard. 551 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 5: But really it's been Bill Murray. 552 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 7: Yeah, Mafi's the one. I agree that no offense to 553 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 7: Bill Murray, but I would like to see one of 554 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 7: the guys that you invested in in the middle rounds 555 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 7: there in the draft unseen Bill Murray for that top 556 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 7: Mike on when who replacement right guard spot right now? 557 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 7: I just you would like to think that Mafi or 558 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 7: even I know that they've worked Cities sound mostly out 559 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 7: at at tackle, but one of those two guys you 560 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 7: would like to see eventually overtake Bill Murray in an 561 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 7: ideal world. 562 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 6: I mean, Bill Belichick loves himson Bill Murray every time. 563 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 6: I think that might be the most glowing description. And 564 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 6: he gave him yesterday. Have just how hard he works, 565 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 6: I mean blocked a bunch of kicks. I mean, he's 566 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 6: just one of those total Belichick guys. 567 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: I know, team player, team player. So as you see, 568 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: video has to go down right now, the offense is 569 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: with the defense to are left and right, So in 570 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: our left it's it's more the starting defense against the 571 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: H twos and threes offense, and then to our right 572 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: is the the opposite. 573 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 7: This is interesting though. Mac Jones is over here on 574 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 7: the left side, yeah, and Zappi is over there on 575 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 7: the right side with the starting offensive line. 576 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: That's weird. 577 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 7: But Mac is working with some of the starting receivers 578 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 7: on the left side in a in a shell drill 579 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 7: and it's still on like a seven seven on seven 580 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 7: type situation. 581 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: Yes, three really three separate things going on right now? 582 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 6: Did that be do anything yesterday? You think that garners 583 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 6: him more of a more of a look or more 584 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 6: of an opportunity. 585 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 7: I don't know if you'd do that based off of 586 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 7: one day. 587 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with Evan. 588 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 4: I think he did play well yesterday, But I think 589 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 4: this was probably. 590 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, the fact that Mac is with the starting receivers, 591 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: that that that's more important. 592 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 4: I think, Well, I just think that's the way they 593 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 4: have it set up. I think this is you know, 594 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 4: I think this was a plan. I don't think there 595 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 4: was about any you know, any evaluation kind of stuff. 596 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 4: But I mean, I don't know. It's not like I 597 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 4: know for sure. 598 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: But you know, you want your starting quarterback where your 599 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: starting receivers. 600 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 4: He's with receivers, period, and Zappi's doing stuff with the 601 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 4: running game and mc sorley's doing stuff with the running 602 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 4: game against uh, you know, secondary players. There's a lot 603 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 4: of team meetings on these screens. 604 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 5: Have you noticed that. 605 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're reading those. Yeah, there's no deception. 606 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 4: The defense is doing a good job of playing it, honest. 607 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 5: Right, it's the same player three times in a row. 608 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: I mean they're not being blocked. 609 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 6: So they still couldn't get a hand on Pop Douglas 610 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 6: till he was about ten yards. 611 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 5: Are you kidding me? On the first place? 612 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 4: Seven guys. 613 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 5: I didn't touch them though, didn't even tag them. 614 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: He's shifting, he's shifted. 615 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 7: He didn't get a hand on. 616 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm with you, Duce, I'm with you. 617 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, they didn't get a hand on that guy either. 618 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 5: He's gone. 619 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 4: Look at him, he's gone. 620 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 7: They got a head on. 621 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 4: I think he doesn't have that deception. So I did 622 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 4: notice on the far field with Zappy a couple of 623 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 4: decent holes popped open. I don't know if you would 624 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 4: call this a nine on seven. I mean I can't 625 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 4: really see all the personnel over there. 626 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's essentially a nine on seven. They're working ones 627 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 7: versus two's nine on seven style. It is interesting, though, 628 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 7: that Trent Brown went down to the conditioning field, as 629 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 7: did Matthew Judon, so neither one of those guys. 630 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 4: I noticed that Riley Reef is that left tackle? 631 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, no, Trent, You've. 632 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 1: Barely got a right tackle. 633 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 5: It's just sicky. 634 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 7: I don't know. 635 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 5: If I had called this like fully keep im track, 636 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 5: I would agree. 637 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: I'm just looking as. 638 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 4: Looking at some stuff. I'm going to put him in 639 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame now because Pop Douglas. I'll tell you, 640 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 4: if I had any idea that all you had to 641 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 4: do was be with the ones to be established as 642 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 4: an all pro, that's that's an impressive. 643 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 5: I had him out for seventeen catches. 644 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 4: You guys really know, I just directed at YouTube. I 645 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 4: think YouTube been very balanced some of them with some 646 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 4: of the reactions that I've heard on you know, other 647 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 4: than Pop Douglas, who clearly is in line to catch 648 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 4: one hundred and seventeen passes this shit. 649 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: Like that's why they called Paul the dream killer. He's 650 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: just a dream killer. 651 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 4: I've been impressed, but like, my god, like, can we 652 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 4: let him do something like in like some games before 653 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 4: we annoint them like Stanley Morgan. 654 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: Morgan wasn't as quick as he is. 655 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 7: Oh god, you're so Stanley Morgan was more of a burner. 656 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 7: I would say, more quick guy. 657 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: He'd be a great complimenting on my thing. Could work 658 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: well together underneath, underneath quick guy. Kon Drew Condrew. 659 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 5: Now he's he's, he's, he's he's doing a good job. 660 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 5: He's doing a good job. 661 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: We'll see. 662 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 6: We were laughing today walking out seeing like Pats come 663 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 6: on all of a sudden, I would agree. 664 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 7: He's doing well box screen right there, he's doing. 665 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 5: A good job. 666 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 4: I would agree one thousand percent with that. 667 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: This is me being serious. 668 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 7: I think you would do SNI are on the same 669 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 7: page here that, and I'm with you. It's about it's 670 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 7: about him making the roster right now. We're not talking 671 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 7: about him. We're not talking about him actually contributing in games. 672 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 7: We're talking about him just being the fifth receiver on 673 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 7: the rock. 674 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 4: Exactly long way to go. But if I had to 675 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 4: say right now, he's a lock based on what he's 676 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 4: been doing every day, not performance wise, but with whom, 677 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 4: with whom. 678 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 5: Whom, whom? 679 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: Oh they faked him, but. 680 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 7: They've been they've been doing that a little bit more. 681 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 7: They it's like screen screen, screen, fake. 682 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 5: Stupid defense, trying to jump everything and keep them defense. 683 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 5: They they will. 684 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,239 Speaker 7: They hit a siki on it a couple of days ago, 685 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 7: but this time the defense new is coming. 686 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, big day here at Gillette other than training camp. 687 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: We have Beyonce tomorrow night. 688 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's going to be here, is going to be 689 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 7: in Nightmare. 690 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: So they've got the stage all set up on the 691 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: game field. 692 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 4: See now I'll just tell you Douglas did a really 693 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 4: good job on that play blocking little stock block on. 694 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 4: I can't see who it was, but the defender had 695 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 4: a hard time getting away from him. 696 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 7: Pretty good amount of zone running going on with this starting. 697 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 5: Do you hit it? Like the depression in his voice? 698 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: Zone running. 699 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 6: If I don't see a guard pole soon, I'm gonna 700 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 6: lose my mind exactly what I was thinking. 701 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 4: In fairness, there's a pretty good amount of zone running from. 702 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 7: Outside phone, some splits, some power. I just see a 703 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 7: guard pole, please. I know they'll be multiple, but they've 704 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 7: leaned towards this. The zone stuff. I think a little 705 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 7: bit more from what we've seen, just not much, I'll 706 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 7: give you it is now. 707 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 4: Last year, when that play would run, they'd be a 708 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 4: team meeting in. 709 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: The right field, and that was what was weird too. 710 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 6: It's just like the reps last year were so strange 711 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 6: where it was, you know, like now it's like and 712 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 6: says I, they work on something and they changed a 713 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 6: little bit, they build off of it, like it's just 714 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 6: like it felt like they would just sit there and 715 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 6: run wide zone right six times, wide zone left six times, 716 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 6: and then they were done, Like it was. 717 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: It's just bizarre, all right. 718 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 7: The Mac go over there, now, Max over there, I think, yeah. 719 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: I verse two's elevens. 720 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 7: I will say this though, Connor McDermott looked looked pretty 721 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 7: solid in that drill. He's he was at right tackle, correct, Yeah, Yeah, 722 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 7: he's looked pretty good. I would say to start here. Definitely, 723 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 7: they're the best guy that they've had out there at 724 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 7: right tackle, which I don't know how much that really means. 725 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 6: I mean, I think I'd love to get Calvin Anderson back, 726 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 6: you know, I wonder what his deal is almost. Yeah, 727 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 6: so out yesterday like our s V or something mono nucleosis. 728 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm there. 729 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 4: I don't know how I how did I get How 730 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:10,479 Speaker 4: did I get here? 731 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 5: You may be asking yourself, how did I get here? Well? 732 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: We are talking heads, that's. 733 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 5: Right, that's true. 734 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 7: Good friend needs like four eyes for this. 735 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, three wings, three ring circus. 736 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, that that SICKI rep though, went yesterday when Mac 737 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 6: threw that one, Paul. I don't know if the if 738 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 6: the talking Heads caught that one or sorry the no 739 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 6: it all's down below, but then just walked Cold Strange. 740 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 5: Back like roller we did. We didn't catch that. Not 741 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 5: a great sign. 742 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: Does Cold Strange look like he's put on any good weight. 743 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: I think a little bit, yeah, because he needed to right. 744 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, his upper body to me looks a little bit yeah, 745 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 7: a little bit thicker. I'm not sure about that. 746 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 6: He still is more of an athletic build than a 747 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 6: yeah kind of they're a fatty offensive lineman. 748 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 5: That's they're fat, but you know, it's just that big thing. 749 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 5: But they got the belly usually. 750 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 7: I just really hope that all this zone stuff is 751 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 7: not strictly because it fits him the best. 752 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 5: Right kind of choice draft. 753 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 4: You got some sort of nickel package over here. I 754 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 4: got a lot of defensive backs out there. Jack Jones 755 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 4: part of that group. 756 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:35,479 Speaker 6: Yeah, Mac Wilson off the edge. 757 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 4: Holds it by Jalen Hurt. 758 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 5: I liked it a little bit. 759 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 7: Jack It a little bit of hesitation on on that. 760 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: Throw is a drop by Juju. 761 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's seemed like Juju kind of stopped and there's 762 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 7: a little bit of hesitation there. 763 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: Hands. 764 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 7: But that that the play action worked for what it's worth. 765 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 4: And just to clarify on that, there's a lot of 766 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 4: mixing and matching in and out. Like Gonzalas was not 767 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 4: on that play and he's pretty much been with that 768 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 4: group all you know, all five days so far. So 769 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 4: I don't want to say that, Oh Jack Jones, maybe 770 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 4: they got some good news on him. 771 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 5: I don't think that's accurate. 772 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, so this is this is an interesting front with 773 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 6: Keon White and Barmore at the ends and Gotcha on 774 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 6: the nose, and then with Board on the middle and 775 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 6: Tavai and Jennings nothing nothing there for them. I just 776 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 6: watching the defense and that's as I want to do. 777 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, it looks like the defense on the right field's 778 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 7: going off cards, I'm assuming so is the defense over here. 779 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: Bill is on to our left. He's with the McSorley group. 780 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, with the first the first team dye, which it is. 781 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 6: It is interesting watching though, just without mccordy, that they 782 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 6: really do just kind of rotate those safeties through and 783 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 6: everybody's kind of playing everywhere. 784 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: So it's it's, uh, you know. 785 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 6: I don't really buy into like, oh, well, now we're 786 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 6: even more predictable, just because Devin mccorty was really good. 787 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: And I don't want to say that. 788 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 6: You know, the predictability of Devin McCarty being in center 789 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 6: field could could really be a bad thing. But they 790 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 6: do seem comfortable kind of spinning the dial with those guys, 791 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 6: so you know, maybe it we'll give him a little 792 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 6: bit of a advantage. At times you're not quite sure 793 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 6: who's going to be dropping. 794 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: Out coming forward. It seems like this is like the prelude. 795 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, the pace is definitely a little slow, but hopefully 796 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 4: it's ramping up to something soon. 797 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: Because if it doesn't, what do we were in Pats for? 798 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: We were right, We need to try to make us hot. 799 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 5: The Yates of Hell remains unoccupied. 800 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: To work that in. 801 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's good. 802 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: Can't let a day go by. Nice cut, remandra Ken, har. 803 00:35:59,600 --> 00:35:59,959 Speaker 7: He looks. 804 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,479 Speaker 5: He looks surprisingly quicker to me. Didn't seem quite as uh. 805 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: I think he just probably drops some weight. 806 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 7: That was an outside zone rep, though, and that's probably 807 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 7: one of the better outside zone reps i've seen them 808 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 7: have practice. Bent it up right, that's exactly. 809 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 4: How he got that sincere and gave him a little 810 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 4: fist bump, Vinny, good guy nine Harris Right, Yeah, trust 811 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 4: I don't know how you guys can see stuff up 812 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 4: here so far away. 813 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:39,399 Speaker 5: Next soarly back to pass would have got nice play. 814 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: Donnie Pittsburgh writes in Andrew, he said a guy from 815 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: named Chad Graff from the Athletic Rating Mack. He says, 816 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: in summary, he pitches Max can't can't perform it so 817 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,879 Speaker 1: far as in the faller category, specifically citing a lack 818 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: of throw timing in chemistry with his receivers. How does 819 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: that analysis make you all feel about Max's ability to 820 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 1: improve his game with the addition of O'Brian. 821 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 7: The fifth on thee. 822 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play the fifth. 823 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 4: I mean, I would say that there's something accuracy to 824 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 4: the point of the timing hasn't been there. I would 825 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 4: agree with that. I what am I reading into that? 826 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 4: I'm kind of with the boys like not a lot. 827 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 5: It just kind of looks the same to me. I mean, 828 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 5: it's just Mac has been Mac for better or worse. 829 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 6: And as I said at the top, the thing that's just, 830 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 6: you know, I want to see is some of the 831 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:33,760 Speaker 6: downfield stuff. 832 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 5: And it was inconsistent and sporadic last year, but at. 833 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 6: Least you know, he hit on a couple of downfield pros, 834 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 6: and I mean, he hasn't had much opportunity. They've been 835 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 6: in the red zone, but you know, it's hard to 836 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,919 Speaker 6: look at their red zone performance over the first four 837 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 6: days of camp and feel encouraged, you know. I mean, 838 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,879 Speaker 6: I'm sure when they get into game situations and Bill 839 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 6: O'Brien can game plan and attack defenses and put guys 840 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 6: in right positions, that it'll be a. 841 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 5: Little bit easier for him. But I would just say 842 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 5: generally Mac isn't really raising the level of. 843 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 4: All and I think not only Max not lifting it, 844 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 4: but I think the receivers are not necessarily built to 845 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 4: just go out and make a play one on one. Now, 846 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 4: I'll go back to your guy Pop. You know, maybe 847 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 4: maybe he's one of those guys that can can find 848 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 4: out figure out ways to do some of those things. 849 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 4: But right now, I agree with you guys, the most 850 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 4: successful play seem to be when they're confusing the defense 851 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,720 Speaker 4: as opposed to when they're beating the defense. 852 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: All right, are they doing special teams? Now? Okay? I 853 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: feel like the energy is getting like I've. 854 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 5: Really rubbed off on Fred. 855 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: Well, I just want to make you got to take 856 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: a break at some point, Okay, so why don't we 857 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: do that? 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For deals, buy 905 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:15,800 Speaker 3: a Toyota dot com. 906 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 5: Maybe you should put your head. 907 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, while we were gone, Unfortunately, not great news. 908 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 5: We'll see what it is. 909 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 4: Cold strange spending some time with the trainers, Evan, did 910 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 4: you see the play when he went. 911 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 7: Not Lawrence Guy's fault, but he was tangled up with 912 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 7: Lawrence Guy. And this blocking drill that they're doing right 913 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 7: now looked to me like it was a little bit 914 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 7: of a twist of the knee. And to be hopeful, 915 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 7: I think maybe it was just the brace might have 916 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 7: gotten and dig dug into him, you know, and the 917 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 7: brace kind of twists off and then sort of digs 918 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 7: into your your leg like that. If you want to 919 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 7: be optimistic, I would say that that's. 920 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 6: Bill just went over and checked on him. He's walking 921 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 6: back to the athletic training area. 922 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 1: He does look like he's walking better now than when 923 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 1: he first got up. But they loosened his left knee 924 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: brace and he's walking into the shed with the trainer 925 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 1: for the team. Belichick came over and checked, kind of 926 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 1: nodded his head and it walked away. So it was 927 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,720 Speaker 1: a quick update from the trainer. 928 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 4: So I'm hopeful it was like they were shielding so 929 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,320 Speaker 4: I couldn't see what if they were doing the ACL 930 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 4: test or anything. I'm sure they did, but I didn't 931 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 4: actually get a chance to see it. Yeah, I mean, 932 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 4: hopefully we'll get good news he's back in that training 933 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 4: area now. 934 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,959 Speaker 1: Yeah. 935 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 6: So kind of an interesting drill here where you have 936 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 6: like lineman versus defensive lineman on either side of the 937 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,439 Speaker 6: center and the quarterback and it seems like they're either 938 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 6: throwing the ball or tossing it. Interesting drill. I don't 939 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 6: remember seeing this one. 940 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, this is They do this all the time. This 941 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 7: is one of my favorites because you're you're really working 942 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 7: on leveraging the block right, So clearly the running back 943 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,319 Speaker 7: has to read whether you go inside or outside, and 944 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 7: then the blocker needs to go ahead and and wallow 945 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 7: it off which other direction he needs, And it's just 946 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 7: kind of good to isolate these guys one on one 947 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 7: like this other so you don't have to see through 948 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 7: a mess of people to kind of be able to 949 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 7: look at everybody. I thought a couple of good ones 950 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,879 Speaker 7: from from Matt Sokole, which I think is notable because 951 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,720 Speaker 7: he's made some good catches and UH and team drills 952 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 7: as well, and he's been a pretty good blocker from 953 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 7: what I've seen. Two and we talk about that third 954 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 7: tight end spot. Maybe somebody to come in and block 955 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,879 Speaker 7: and Bill Murray, Bill Murray throwing a few good ones too. 956 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 7: One just now on on Christian Barmore. So a couple 957 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 7: of guys I thought stood out, and I thought McDermott 958 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 7: held his own pretty well too. But I think the 959 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 7: sole Sol had a really good block on Jelanie to 960 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 7: Vaih to clear them out and turn them outside. If 961 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 7: they're gonna win that tight end three job, it's gonna 962 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,360 Speaker 7: it's gonna be blocking, it's not gonna be pass catching. 963 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,360 Speaker 5: I'll be stealing that for the blog. 964 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 7: Go for it. I love that droll. That's that makes 965 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 7: it so much easier because I think for all of us, 966 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 7: when there's eleven guys and there's yeah right, and when 967 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 7: you just have people on an island like that, you 968 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 7: can really tell who who's doing well. 969 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,359 Speaker 6: Part of the advantage of being up here too, because 970 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 6: I'm not sure how much the the know it all 971 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,839 Speaker 6: time could get access to seat like a site line 972 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 6: to see all those reps. 973 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 7: It'll be in blogs and it'll be in the Trench 974 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 7: report today. 975 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: To now we're on to punt. 976 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 5: What do you guys think of socle I mean, I agree, I. 977 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 6: Think he's doing what he needs to do right now, 978 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 6: and it's playing about third tight end. I mean that, 979 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,280 Speaker 6: you know, it doesn't really feel like it feels a little 980 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 6: tenuous to think that you can go through through the 981 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,840 Speaker 6: season with just Henry and Kasiki playing. 982 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 4: There's no way they're going to do that. 983 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 5: Now. 984 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 4: At the very least, they'll have a couple on the 985 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 4: practice squad. But if you want to us multiple tight 986 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 4: ends for any length of time, you need more than two. 987 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 4: You know, Like, if you go into a game and 988 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 4: you have your game plan is, well, we think we're 989 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 4: going to operate and who's that that miss that pun 990 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 4: miles miles front. If you think you're going to go 991 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 4: into a game and have any significant amount of your 992 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 4: game plan you know, devoted to having two tight ends, 993 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,919 Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden in the first series, one. 994 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:25,400 Speaker 5: Of them goes down. 995 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 4: What do you well, I guess we couldn't play today 996 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 4: because our. 997 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,399 Speaker 5: Game plan was two tight ends. 998 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, so you got to have more than 999 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,439 Speaker 4: more than two to be able to play that way. 1000 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure is excited about it. 1001 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 7: I also think that one of if you're going to 1002 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 7: play a lot of twelve, one of them's got to 1003 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 7: be able to inline block. And I don't know if 1004 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 7: that's really going to be a Sickies game at all. 1005 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 7: And I think Henry last year his blocking definitely took 1006 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 7: a step back and he's more of a of a 1007 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 7: stalemate blocker anyways, and the guy that's really going to 1008 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,280 Speaker 7: clear somebody out. So if you're going to be effective 1009 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,839 Speaker 7: and first down out of twelve personnel, then someone's gonna 1010 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 7: have to be able to throw a block. And I 1011 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 7: think that's where Socle comes in potentially. And I know 1012 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 7: that's not what people want to hear. They want to 1013 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,280 Speaker 7: hear that Henry and Gazeki are going to play together. 1014 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 7: But if twelve personnel is going to be a big 1015 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 7: part of their early down offense, I could see somebody 1016 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,880 Speaker 7: like Socle. And I've also mentioned Johnny Lumpkin in the 1017 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 7: past as being a guy that strictly plays on first 1018 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 7: down and short yardage and things like that. 1019 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 4: He looks that that part, without question, out of out 1020 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 4: of all the tight ends. If you're asking for one 1021 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 4: to be like sort of that three blocking specialist, that 1022 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 4: would be him. But you know, I don't know if 1023 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 4: he does enough of the other stuff to warn a 1024 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,319 Speaker 4: rosters Barbles, you know, to see what this is. You know, 1025 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 4: in the preseason games and those joint practices and stuff, 1026 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 4: you start to see how they employ these guys and 1027 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 4: you get a better idea what they're thinking. Well, another 1028 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,879 Speaker 4: bomb for Barrenger Man, he does get some hang time. 1029 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, what was the feeling down there with the punding yesterday? 1030 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 7: Because I thought they both got there. 1031 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 4: They were both excellent. They were both excellent early then 1032 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,799 Speaker 4: late when they were doing those little updowns while they 1033 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 4: were punting and the rest of the team was on 1034 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 4: the conditioning hill. I thought Weightman struggled a little bit, 1035 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 4: but they both were killing the ball yesterday for the 1036 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 4: most part. 1037 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 1: That's another one. Let's see what Corlis has. 1038 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 4: A lot of his have been short all of a sudden, 1039 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 4: Like the last I'd say Weightman, I mean he lost 1040 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,400 Speaker 4: the juice. Yeah, I don't know if it was something 1041 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 4: that they're working on or what. This was a good one. Yeah, 1042 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 4: turned it over. 1043 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 6: As they say, is that when it all of a 1044 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 6: sudden gets into spiral mode, like at the at the Apex. 1045 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 1: He has a couple of those. 1046 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 5: I like those. 1047 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 4: I think we had some phone calls that you might 1048 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 4: need to get to it. 1049 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I can't. 1050 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 4: Okay, I thought Matt said to go to a phone call. 1051 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 1: Just to give you a close strange update. They set 1052 00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,360 Speaker 1: up a table. They tested both his knees for that 1053 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 1: you know what that ACL test and everything, so I 1054 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 1: think they were kind of comparing how one felt against 1055 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 1: the other. So he's just kind of sitting there talking 1056 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,360 Speaker 1: with the assistant trainer right now, putting his shoes back on. 1057 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:20,719 Speaker 4: So I don't know, we'll see, didn't get that one turned. 1058 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, the punting bat not to go too long on 1059 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 7: the punters, but. 1060 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:28,799 Speaker 1: Let's say we got time. 1061 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 7: It's kind of a dead heat right now. I feel like, 1062 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,760 Speaker 7: you know, both guys have their thing. I think Corlis 1063 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 7: Weightman's a little bit more consistent, but bar Baringer can 1064 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:43,320 Speaker 7: do this and flip the field. But there are times 1065 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 7: where he shanks it, so it's a little bit more inconsistent, 1066 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 7: but he has a bigger leg. It depends on what 1067 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 7: they're looking for, I think in terms of do you 1068 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 7: want a guy that can really flip field position or 1069 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 7: are you more looking for a guy that's just gonna 1070 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 7: You're gonna know what you got right, You're gonna get 1071 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 7: it up there in four seconds and it's gonna be 1072 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 7: exactly in this same spot. Every time. 1073 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 1: I feel like they're usually option B. 1074 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 7: I would I would tend to agree with I think 1075 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 7: consistency is more important to them, and being able to 1076 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 7: control the ball I think is big too. 1077 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 5: That I think that's really big for them. 1078 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 4: The directional punts of plus fifty work and things like that, Yep, 1079 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 4: I think more important. 1080 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,360 Speaker 1: Alright, Eleven's. 1081 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,919 Speaker 6: Yeah wait, actually yeah, all right, so what do we got? 1082 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:35,840 Speaker 7: Says the first padded eleven my pool and Marty mop. 1083 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,320 Speaker 6: Was my pool in a red jersey and playing linebackers. 1084 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 6: So this is probably maybe the same thing they did yesterday. 1085 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,319 Speaker 6: Maybe this is gonna be a little tempo, a little 1086 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:46,319 Speaker 6: two minute maybe looks it. Phil O'Brien barking out commands 1087 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,359 Speaker 6: seems like he's holding things up here. For a second something. 1088 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 1: So I don't know if it's a good or bad sign, 1089 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 1: but Cole Strange is putting his knee brace back on, 1090 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 1: so he's still out. He's still out there and he's 1091 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 1: in the thing putting his brace on, so that could 1092 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 1: be a sign he's coming back out. 1093 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,479 Speaker 4: In the meantime, who took his spot at left guard? 1094 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:10,920 Speaker 1: It looks like maffy, maffy. 1095 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 6: Yep, that's good, Yep. 1096 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 7: That's interesting. They only had one side of the line rush. 1097 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,839 Speaker 7: One side of the line got a rep of pass 1098 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,800 Speaker 7: rush past protection the other side. 1099 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,719 Speaker 4: Just to to deuce his point. You know, you got 1100 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 4: a guy out there, you know, full patch. 1101 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 5: Here we go. H there's a guy out there with 1102 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 5: a red jersey. 1103 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 4: So you're kind of like, all right, this isn't gonna 1104 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,879 Speaker 4: be full tilt full time. 1105 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. But interesting that. 1106 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,239 Speaker 4: I mean that linebacker, you know, not not where he 1107 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 4: was at the starter camp back irritating Evan at safety. 1108 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,839 Speaker 6: And it seems like Miles Brian is working his way 1109 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 6: back in today with the ones that the nickel spot, 1110 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 6: I should say, the star slots a handful of I 1111 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 6: think he's been He's caught my eye a couple of 1112 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,799 Speaker 6: times not just the strange thing yesterday, but even in 1113 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 6: those reps earlier, he's just a fire hydrant. 1114 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's tough, tough to move. 1115 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,879 Speaker 4: I like that he's trying to do some running down there. 1116 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 5: Cold strange. 1117 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, some light jogs by the the Yates of Hell. 1118 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 7: I don't think we need to push it on day. 1119 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 1: Five now set out this practice. 1120 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 6: Well, it's certainly a good sign that they're at least 1121 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,960 Speaker 6: letting him try it and not carting them off. 1122 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:25,919 Speaker 5: And yes, I agree. 1123 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 7: Connor McDermott. I'll tell you he doesn't make a ton 1124 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 7: of mistakes mentally. They just ran a little twist at 1125 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 7: him and he was able to pick it up. Take 1126 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,720 Speaker 7: a little bit of coaching. It looks like from Adrian 1127 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:43,319 Speaker 7: clem now. But I just consistently I see him be 1128 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 7: the most sturdy guy. He don't really see him get 1129 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,319 Speaker 7: beat badly too often. I know he's not the most 1130 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 7: dynamic athlete, but. 1131 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,479 Speaker 1: You gotta take what you got at this point. 1132 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 6: I mean, they don't. That tackle room is not very athletic. 1133 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,720 Speaker 6: Mac oh geez, all. 1134 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,760 Speaker 1: The linemen wearing those padded helmet you know, the pads 1135 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 1: on the outside of the helmet. Just an FYI Riley 1136 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 1: Reef on for a ride on that one. 1137 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 7: And ninety two together is a mean group. I mean 1138 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 7: they just they just dented the entire left side of 1139 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,960 Speaker 7: that pocket. It was a brief. 1140 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 1: And I think brief. 1141 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 6: Reef just lost his footing and it almost looked like 1142 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 6: it was like one of the guys. 1143 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 1: Fell down. 1144 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 5: Trying to all right. 1145 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:39,160 Speaker 1: Zeppian so kind of interesting. 1146 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,440 Speaker 6: I don't know, Mapu and Tabaire your first two linebackers, 1147 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 6: and you get Bentley out there, Bentley and mack Wilson. 1148 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 5: Jack Jones, Marcus Jones in the. 1149 00:52:49,400 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 1: Corner spots looking good. Complete Is that Pop again. 1150 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 5: Again? There? 1151 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 1: He is all over the place. Pop Douglas. 1152 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 6: I decided yesday because everyone was asking was it Popper 1153 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,440 Speaker 6: or or is it Tomorrow? He's like, whatever, whatever you 1154 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,760 Speaker 6: wanna call it, I'm gonna call him Pop. Yeah, sure, 1155 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 6: you know it's every team needs a popuse every time 1156 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:17,760 Speaker 6: I say Tomorrio. 1157 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm about to say to Mario Davis. 1158 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 5: Strange, that is true, you do call him Davis. I 1159 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 5: so I'm going you should know your guy. I know, 1160 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 5: I think he's Evan Sky's. 1161 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 7: Dropped by Andrew stub You can't drop that heard I 1162 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,640 Speaker 7: think that's it's Kean White wearing red underneath his pads 1163 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 7: and my rolled up. So yeah, Andrew with a nice 1164 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:41,719 Speaker 7: anchor on Keon White. 1165 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,839 Speaker 5: There, h, Andrew is a big guy. 1166 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:45,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for asking. 1167 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:51,840 Speaker 4: I caught that that used to be Jonathan stupor stupid. 1168 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,839 Speaker 5: Thanks for asking Stupor. 1169 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:56,719 Speaker 1: Thanks for having. 1170 00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:58,600 Speaker 5: Thanks, Matt. 1171 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,399 Speaker 6: I just showed Campbell the very first episode of south 1172 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 6: Park last night. He's been dynasty south Park said all right, well, 1173 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 6: what's the first one? 1174 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 1: Who? So? Scott so well. 1175 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 7: So always on the side of the quarterback, So. 1176 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:18,359 Speaker 5: Where's the fly? So not happy with that result? Explosive 1177 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 5: what they may have heard that in the background, you 1178 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,120 Speaker 5: what are you yelling at? 1179 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 4: So I'm starting to lose faith that we're going to 1180 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 4: give any goal line? 1181 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah today. 1182 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 5: I don't recall us getting it any last year. 1183 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 4: No, we haven't gotten it for a while, which. 1184 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 5: Is just funny. 1185 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,440 Speaker 6: They spent like their whole time in the red zone 1186 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:38,399 Speaker 6: and then Pat's come on and they're like, all, let's 1187 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:39,160 Speaker 6: move it out to the forty. 1188 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:43,279 Speaker 7: Usually they do goal lined joints. I'm joint practices. I 1189 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:47,880 Speaker 7: think maybe they I don't know, more more competitive or 1190 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,800 Speaker 7: something like that or to save that for then I 1191 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:50,719 Speaker 7: don't know. 1192 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,319 Speaker 4: Well, as you said, it's way a cold, strange girl. 1193 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,280 Speaker 1: That's training cam. Well, so here's the sequence of events. 1194 00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,800 Speaker 1: He was gonna put his brace on and then w 1195 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,440 Speaker 1: Aalen came back and said, hold on, we got to 1196 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,720 Speaker 1: test this out. So he was doing the little running 1197 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,239 Speaker 1: you saw. Then they brought over the orthopedic doctor and 1198 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,920 Speaker 1: now he's back on the table with the doctor inside. Yeah, 1199 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,759 Speaker 1: with the doctor looking at him. So they're going to 1200 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 1: be extra extra careful. 1201 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 4: I might need you to write a paragraph on that 1202 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,719 Speaker 4: and send it to me. Fritz checked out, all. 1203 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, he stood up. He did some skipping. 1204 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 4: But I was talking to Evan about that the other day, 1205 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 4: like when guys get hurt and you see it happen 1206 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,879 Speaker 4: and you're like you can chronicle the play and then 1207 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 4: like I lose them for the rest of. 1208 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,239 Speaker 5: The practice, Like did he go back? Yeah? This do 1209 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 5: you do that? 1210 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,600 Speaker 7: Connor McDermott put in Ronnie Perkins in the ground. 1211 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,920 Speaker 1: Whoa, All right, well it's whoa. 1212 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 5: It's not pumped. 1213 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 1: The breaks on that a little bit. 1214 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:49,840 Speaker 4: Here's no pop dog and he's still popped. 1215 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 7: Just give this to me. 1216 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,719 Speaker 4: I know, I know Yevin, he's such a killed you 1217 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:55,719 Speaker 4: all right, you got it. 1218 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,400 Speaker 6: Connor mcdermot's your guy, Evan, you're married twenty three season. 1219 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,720 Speaker 7: I can't. I can't back off to take that. 1220 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:04,359 Speaker 1: You're married to that one. 1221 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 4: It's tough one to be taken ordered on. 1222 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,400 Speaker 5: I mean at this point though, I'll take anything they 1223 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 5: can get at the tackle spot. 1224 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:16,640 Speaker 7: I think he caught that. 1225 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:18,800 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think he was in bound. 1226 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:21,719 Speaker 4: That's a nice catch, but I don't think he was 1227 00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,759 Speaker 4: in bound all right doing something though, although you know, 1228 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 4: anytime you get that Booty Ronnie Perkins matchups Booty. 1229 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 1: All right, not bad. Oh god. 1230 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,640 Speaker 6: So now we got map who playing a little little 1231 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,839 Speaker 6: deep safety too. So quite a couple of first days 1232 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:45,400 Speaker 6: for him, but it seems like he's kind of gotten 1233 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 6: back into the mix where he wasn't and that was a. 1234 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,080 Speaker 5: Mere speed speed. 1235 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:53,759 Speaker 1: Roll web. 1236 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,240 Speaker 4: It's been a little uh drop, little slot, a little sloppy, 1237 00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:01,799 Speaker 4: but some of the past catch today. I haven't seen 1238 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,360 Speaker 4: a lot of drops in the first few days. Mostly 1239 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 4: all the incomplete passes had no chance of. 1240 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,400 Speaker 6: Being convinced right well, like that last one from McSorley 1241 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:09,920 Speaker 6: that was like. 1242 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,960 Speaker 1: Landed in the zone. 1243 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:24,320 Speaker 5: So yeah, you got Hawkins and Mapu at safety. 1244 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the low level reps. Oh nice, that's 1245 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:29,960 Speaker 1: a good little throat. 1246 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,120 Speaker 7: A lumpkin, good rep by Sam Roberts. 1247 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,640 Speaker 5: Evansky, lumpkin m s. 1248 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:40,760 Speaker 6: Evan's got lumpkin McDermott. All right, moving on. 1249 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm waiting for the more juice here is. 1250 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 5: I don't have anything. 1251 00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,720 Speaker 7: This juice, all the juice is happening in the trenches, 1252 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 7: and you guys know, I watch it. 1253 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of juice. 1254 00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,000 Speaker 7: That's the Those guys are going at it a little. 1255 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:07,600 Speaker 1: But actually, who's seventeen Scottie Washington. He's banged up. He's 1256 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,080 Speaker 1: next up on the table. 1257 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 5: And oh boy, seventeen he just went in. 1258 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, pull another paragraph for you. 1259 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:15,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I can't really write about that. I have 1260 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:16,320 Speaker 4: no idea how. 1261 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:22,320 Speaker 5: Not exactly generating clicks. 1262 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 1: Scotty, some Scotty Washington fans out there. Now we're into 1263 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:32,360 Speaker 1: special teams. 1264 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, hunting back the other way. 1265 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,560 Speaker 1: Hunting battle continues, Yates of Hell filling up. It's gotta 1266 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 1: either gotta get some one on one. 1267 00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 5: There's somebody else going in there now too. 1268 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,080 Speaker 7: Sixty three, Yeah, saxty three has been hobbling all practice. 1269 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:55,320 Speaker 7: I don't know what's up with him. 1270 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 1: And he would be Uh, that's chasing Hines. 1271 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:57,480 Speaker 5: I think that's what I thought. 1272 00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:02,680 Speaker 7: Oh the lineman, Yeah, he's been and the thing limping 1273 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,520 Speaker 7: the whole practice. 1274 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 1: I don't think it's bolding. 1275 00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:08,479 Speaker 7: No, it's sixty three chasing minds. 1276 00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,880 Speaker 5: He'd be a white shirt if it was right. 1277 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:17,480 Speaker 1: Wow, I was Bryant returning. 1278 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's see Berenger. 1279 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:27,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, they got a line waiting to get into the 1280 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:28,560 Speaker 1: training room there. 1281 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:30,480 Speaker 5: I'm surprised that they had. 1282 00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,600 Speaker 6: That's so open here, Like now, that wasn't here when 1283 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,320 Speaker 6: I first got here. But that's that, that's not that 1284 00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 6: does not seem like, hey, let's have a window into 1285 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:38,360 Speaker 6: the athletic training rooms. 1286 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,520 Speaker 1: Every time somebody gets hurt, everyone sees what's going on. 1287 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:46,520 Speaker 1: Good news, Uh, strangers putting his brace back on. So 1288 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:47,800 Speaker 1: so that's up on him. 1289 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:52,560 Speaker 5: Days of our lives, the uh, it's on, it's off. 1290 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,400 Speaker 4: General about Franco still dead. 1291 00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,480 Speaker 7: I like that they're really taking a lot of time 1292 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,160 Speaker 7: on these two man row combos on the goal line, 1293 01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:07,200 Speaker 7: on these special teams drills happening with the quarterbacks and 1294 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 7: just the receivers on one field and the special teams 1295 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,480 Speaker 7: going on the other field, and they're working all sorts 1296 01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,120 Speaker 7: of different combinations down here. 1297 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,440 Speaker 1: Probably remember when we used to have the Hall of 1298 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,000 Speaker 1: Fame drill. Yes, it was Brady Gronk. 1299 01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that was fun, good times. 1300 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,360 Speaker 7: I wouldn't say this is quite on that. 1301 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,000 Speaker 5: Level, but is Pop Douglas down there though. 1302 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,040 Speaker 4: That that would probably put it over the top. But 1303 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:35,520 Speaker 4: he's returned with. 1304 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,439 Speaker 7: The returners, dang it. 1305 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,320 Speaker 4: Which, by the way, I've been very impressed with his 1306 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:47,400 Speaker 4: ability to field punts on the run. Too much compliments 1307 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,720 Speaker 4: and now I was going to balance it out. Ball 1308 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:56,680 Speaker 4: security for him was an issue in college. Correct, No 1309 01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 4: one had that part of the scout in your port. 1310 01:00:59,440 --> 01:00:59,760 Speaker 7: No. 1311 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,040 Speaker 4: All security was an issue for Douglas in college. 1312 01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:06,200 Speaker 7: I'm a big ball security security guy. 1313 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 5: You don't believe in that, you don't believe in not 1314 01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:08,880 Speaker 5: turning the ball over. 1315 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 7: They're they're good at coaching guys up. 1316 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:16,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's another short one for just don't drop it, 1317 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,480 Speaker 4: and when you do, make sure someone's there to recover it. 1318 01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:19,600 Speaker 4: I mean it's not that hard. 1319 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 6: You're right, Probably some of these weightment punts are just 1320 01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:27,560 Speaker 6: kind of sure dying. Yeah, So maybe he's not the 1321 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:28,439 Speaker 6: consistency guy. 1322 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:28,720 Speaker 5: Now. 1323 01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:33,040 Speaker 4: Yesterday the first round of punting, he was like one 1324 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,760 Speaker 4: bomb after the next. Then at the end when they 1325 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 4: were doing that punting, as I said, when the guys 1326 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,960 Speaker 4: were running and they were running, he was a little 1327 01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 4: less consistent. 1328 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,480 Speaker 1: As another boomer by Bearinger. But that's a nice punt. 1329 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:51,960 Speaker 7: Perfect. If he can punt it that far and direct 1330 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,960 Speaker 7: it like that where it's right in the on the sideline, 1331 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:58,200 Speaker 7: then it might be good. 1332 01:01:58,280 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 1: Did Jake Bailey catch on anymore? 1333 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:01,440 Speaker 7: He's in Miami? 1334 01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 1: Is it right? 1335 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 5: Yep? 1336 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,000 Speaker 1: Dexter and Santa Rosa rightes in. I'm rooting for Mac 1337 01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,360 Speaker 1: Jones and hoping he pops off with a great season. 1338 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,320 Speaker 1: That being said, I sort of understand why people out 1339 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,440 Speaker 1: there are rooting for Zappi during the sham Cam Newton 1340 01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,400 Speaker 1: versus Mac Jones competition that was over weeks before they 1341 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,440 Speaker 1: cut can if we all did what Fred tells Patriots 1342 01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,240 Speaker 1: Nation and watch what Bill did instead of what he said, 1343 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,640 Speaker 1: we would have seen it coming that they would go 1344 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,880 Speaker 1: with Mac based off of these initial practices with pads. 1345 01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:35,400 Speaker 1: I'm looking at what they're doing and having Zappy in 1346 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 1: any irregular positioning other than backup makes the sparks stay 1347 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:45,000 Speaker 1: alive on this competition. Is there anything there? How shocked 1348 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,840 Speaker 1: would you be if at the beginning of the season 1349 01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:49,960 Speaker 1: Bill goes to the podium and says we're gonna go 1350 01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:51,280 Speaker 1: with Bailey Zappy. 1351 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,040 Speaker 4: At the beginning of the season'd be I'd be completely 1352 01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:58,200 Speaker 4: flowed by that. Yeah, so would I, especially especially based 1353 01:02:58,240 --> 01:02:59,160 Speaker 4: on what we've seen in camp. 1354 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,680 Speaker 7: I think with the difference in the comparison between Mac 1355 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 7: the Cam and Mack. Here to me is Mac legitimately 1356 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 7: outplayed Cam Newton in that camp Like it wasn't It 1357 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,480 Speaker 7: wasn't just that he was the first round pick and 1358 01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,160 Speaker 7: it was gonna go that way regardless. I really felt 1359 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,240 Speaker 7: like he played better than Cam did in that camp. 1360 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,240 Speaker 4: See, I was in the in the camp of they're 1361 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,840 Speaker 4: basically the same. And if that's the case, why are 1362 01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:24,840 Speaker 4: you gonna go with Cam Newton? 1363 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:25,560 Speaker 5: No sense? 1364 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,720 Speaker 4: Now, I still expected Cam Newton to open the season 1365 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 4: as a starter, And the only one in our group 1366 01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,840 Speaker 4: that had Mac starting week one. 1367 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:34,400 Speaker 5: Was was Eric. 1368 01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,960 Speaker 4: If you recall, it's like the only thing he ever 1369 01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,600 Speaker 4: got right, but he did, he was he was out 1370 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:44,960 Speaker 4: ahead of that one. I will continue to say, oh, 1371 01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,280 Speaker 4: going down to the gods, Stay up, Stay up, a 1372 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:51,200 Speaker 4: little running game work. I will continue to say that 1373 01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 4: the death knell for Cam Newton was the COVID uh, 1374 01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,280 Speaker 4: you know, all that's you know, the the vaccine and 1375 01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,600 Speaker 4: the you know and all that stuff. I just think 1376 01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,080 Speaker 4: that there was a lack of reliability there and they 1377 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,800 Speaker 4: couldn't they couldn't take that chance. I think mac Jones 1378 01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,560 Speaker 4: would have been the starter eventually, if not in if 1379 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,520 Speaker 4: not in week one, I don't think there's any question 1380 01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:12,920 Speaker 4: about it. I agree with Evan. I think he was 1381 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:13,960 Speaker 4: better than Cam Newton. 1382 01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:17,760 Speaker 1: But and even if it was a little bit, you 1383 01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:18,440 Speaker 1: had to go with. 1384 01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,240 Speaker 4: Matt, right, I mean, it was gonna happen inevitably. But 1385 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,640 Speaker 4: to me, the fact that it happened in week one 1386 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,920 Speaker 4: was solidified by Cam not being available for those Giants 1387 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 4: joint practices. 1388 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:31,280 Speaker 6: Remember those yeptues, Yeah, ninety one jumped up, Yeah. 1389 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,920 Speaker 4: And he got all of the reps in those joint practices. 1390 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,560 Speaker 4: I thought he played pretty well in those joint practices. 1391 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,000 Speaker 7: Especially the first one. First one, he was really good. Yeah. 1392 01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 7: Then they started spinning the dial on him the next 1393 01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:42,320 Speaker 7: day and it wasn't quite as good. 1394 01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,120 Speaker 4: Remember, all the writers got all mad at the Giants 1395 01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:47,720 Speaker 4: for blitzing. 1396 01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, well Bill got mad at the Giants for blitzing. 1397 01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 1: Wink Martindale right on the dial. Not much there for 1398 01:04:53,320 --> 01:05:00,480 Speaker 1: that run, but they lines are hitting, you know, probably 1399 01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 1: eighty eight. 1400 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:06,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1401 01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,360 Speaker 4: This is like the running game version of what they 1402 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,400 Speaker 4: did yesterday. So the starting in the middle of the field. 1403 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,520 Speaker 4: Running plays quickly with tempo, but there's a lot of 1404 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,800 Speaker 4: runs involved in in some play action off of it, 1405 01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:18,920 Speaker 4: there's another uncovered guy wide. 1406 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:20,720 Speaker 7: Nice pocket there is that. 1407 01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:25,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, Kevin Harrison, Kevin Harris, and then I don't need 1408 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 6: no Ezekiel right yet. 1409 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:30,160 Speaker 7: There you go, nice little pocket there by the offensive line. 1410 01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:33,640 Speaker 6: I mean it is a it is a makeshift line 1411 01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:38,920 Speaker 6: right now between refit LEC Tackle Mafia. Left guard Andrews 1412 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,960 Speaker 6: is the one stable piece right. 1413 01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,640 Speaker 4: Now, since Fred hasn't offered any updates on Strange in 1414 01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:47,200 Speaker 4: the last thirty five seconds, he's still working over here 1415 01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:48,480 Speaker 4: in the Yates of Hell. 1416 01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:52,560 Speaker 1: He's working with one of the trainers hitting pads. They're 1417 01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,840 Speaker 1: just gonna be extra careful have him go through all 1418 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:59,080 Speaker 1: the motions of alignment before they actually put him out there. 1419 01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:06,800 Speaker 5: We got Zappi in with Pure Strong, who's that pop Douglas. 1420 01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:11,560 Speaker 4: Douglas, he looks smooth. He looks smooth. He can absolutely fly. Yeah, 1421 01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:12,800 Speaker 4: I mean he's quick as hell. 1422 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:14,880 Speaker 1: I mean it was a good pass too, by the way, 1423 01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:15,680 Speaker 1: right there. 1424 01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,000 Speaker 7: I don't know if I don't know if Bentley would 1425 01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:20,840 Speaker 7: have gotten him there. I think that was I don't 1426 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,800 Speaker 7: think he would have. I think that's Jalen Mills making 1427 01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:24,360 Speaker 7: the tackle downfield. 1428 01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:25,440 Speaker 4: Or I don't think Bentley was going to get there 1429 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:25,800 Speaker 4: in time. 1430 01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:32,640 Speaker 1: There's another lap, yeah, Sam Roberts, Yeah, a couple off 1431 01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,200 Speaker 1: sides for the wise earlier. 1432 01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, they working on some time. I think that the 1433 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,880 Speaker 4: cadence because it looks like they're very excited when they 1434 01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:42,800 Speaker 4: get somebody to jump. 1435 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:46,720 Speaker 5: Also, just a little bit notable. 1436 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:48,080 Speaker 6: And I don't I don't want to blow these things 1437 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:49,880 Speaker 6: up too much, but Barmore kind of going with the 1438 01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:54,920 Speaker 6: top ones that there too. Yeah, well after why Scott 1439 01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,480 Speaker 6: outside put him in. But but guy, you know, guy 1440 01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:01,600 Speaker 6: playing with Davis here in the second team. It's just 1441 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:03,720 Speaker 6: been a little things to monitor. I'd love to see 1442 01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:05,040 Speaker 6: Barnmore be able to not be. 1443 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,120 Speaker 1: Just a situation pass rusher. 1444 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they need some juice on early downs 1445 01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:12,680 Speaker 6: like he has. 1446 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:14,480 Speaker 1: Nice protection. 1447 01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:16,080 Speaker 5: Oh nice hold. 1448 01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:18,400 Speaker 1: Who you got? 1449 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,800 Speaker 5: Who do you have in the whole sixty sixty three? Yeah, 1450 01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,000 Speaker 5: it's probably a flag the dB. 1451 01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, Taekwon. 1452 01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,160 Speaker 1: Back shoulder, couldn't come down with it. 1453 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,720 Speaker 7: Last last couple of practices, Taekwon has been with the 1454 01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:35,600 Speaker 7: high end two's if you will, and uh he's he's 1455 01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,640 Speaker 7: gotten open a little bit more in the last couple 1456 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,520 Speaker 7: of sessions, but we've got to see him do it 1457 01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,320 Speaker 7: against Solace. 1458 01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,560 Speaker 4: Like a nice five place stretch. Yesterday he was really active. 1459 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:52,720 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 1460 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,320 Speaker 6: All right, Mac back out there with the with the 1461 01:07:55,360 --> 01:08:01,240 Speaker 6: ones again, saying again Sam Roberts the left defensive end, so. 1462 01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:05,640 Speaker 1: And I'll take for what you will with the ones. Yeah, 1463 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:08,040 Speaker 1: Parker on the outside. 1464 01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:17,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's tight package there, Tweet three tight ends on 1465 01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:18,640 Speaker 6: left and. 1466 01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:21,759 Speaker 7: Listen't it that was that was blocked? 1467 01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I said a run. 1468 01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:30,320 Speaker 7: By Connor McDermott again left side opened that up. McDermott 1469 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,760 Speaker 7: on the backside block, but it was Reef and Mafi. 1470 01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:37,720 Speaker 6: On the I mean, it's it's really kind of the 1471 01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:41,720 Speaker 6: Harrison Strange uh and uh Strong show today. You know, 1472 01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,360 Speaker 6: it doesn't didn't sem like we're getting much of a 1473 01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:44,200 Speaker 6: Mandrae in the snow. 1474 01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:45,800 Speaker 7: I think he went down to the conditioning field. 1475 01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:59,120 Speaker 1: Juju in the backfield, Juju with a catch, a little 1476 01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:02,400 Speaker 1: swing pass Kyle Dugger versus taekwond. 1477 01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:04,880 Speaker 5: Exactly what I was just gonna say, Like, that's a 1478 01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:05,479 Speaker 5: tough ask. 1479 01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:10,160 Speaker 4: So that one, well you said that Pop Douglas probably 1480 01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,519 Speaker 4: would have been able to get by Bentley. That one 1481 01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:13,599 Speaker 4: would have been a four yard lost. 1482 01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:13,720 Speaker 5: Ye. 1483 01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:18,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, Kyle Duggart, just you know, you can Thornton. You 1484 01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:21,280 Speaker 7: cannot ask Taekwon Thorton to make that block. That's that's 1485 01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,000 Speaker 7: one in the game that you're making sure is. 1486 01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:35,800 Speaker 5: Not happening Alabama his own left. 1487 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,880 Speaker 7: Oh so yeah, that time the combo block held up 1488 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,040 Speaker 7: and Tobai was free to the ball. That's what we 1489 01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,479 Speaker 7: saw a lot last year was it wasn't really the 1490 01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,800 Speaker 7: first level. Is that they couldn't get that second level 1491 01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:50,880 Speaker 7: guy blocked because they couldn't get up to the second 1492 01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:52,760 Speaker 7: level because they're getting held up at the first level. 1493 01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,160 Speaker 7: So but that that was Godshaw, who's had a nice practice, 1494 01:09:56,240 --> 01:10:00,760 Speaker 7: I think on the nose, he's he's been really difficul. 1495 01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,439 Speaker 1: He's one of the best alignemen in the league. 1496 01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,400 Speaker 5: Defensive so defensive. 1497 01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:11,920 Speaker 7: Line Yeah, him and Wise have been solid. I know 1498 01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,280 Speaker 7: whis ran that lap. But other than that. 1499 01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:21,280 Speaker 6: Job, Bill Murray though there check down and Kevin Harris, 1500 01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:23,840 Speaker 6: uh night. Nice little block by Bill Murray on our 1501 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:25,080 Speaker 6: got chall right there. 1502 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,120 Speaker 7: I'll get Bill Murray this. He's physical and he's got 1503 01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,200 Speaker 7: a good motor and you can tell that he's he 1504 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,919 Speaker 7: blocks through that whistle at old cliche. 1505 01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,200 Speaker 5: So when does he arrive at the stadium and when 1506 01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:37,800 Speaker 5: does he leave? 1507 01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,200 Speaker 4: He's generally among the first to arrive, among the first. 1508 01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:43,479 Speaker 4: I don't know about when he leaves. 1509 01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:46,920 Speaker 1: He's the first one, but he's the first one out too. 1510 01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:47,960 Speaker 1: He he's got stuff to do. 1511 01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:49,280 Speaker 4: First one in, first one out. 1512 01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:50,080 Speaker 5: You know how that goes. 1513 01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:52,599 Speaker 1: It's the way to do it. 1514 01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:59,519 Speaker 5: Nobody works anyhow. JJ Taylor in there. 1515 01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:10,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, the stuff they were working on earlier, pop not 1516 01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:11,400 Speaker 6: too much there on that one. 1517 01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:16,240 Speaker 7: The gandered Phillips probably would have held him up enough 1518 01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:18,240 Speaker 7: to let the convoy come. 1519 01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:20,759 Speaker 1: But he made the catch. 1520 01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:23,680 Speaker 6: This is this is what they were doing earlier, right, 1521 01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,080 Speaker 6: just these little running back swing passes and yep, you 1522 01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:30,519 Speaker 6: got a kind of a combo block there from the 1523 01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:31,360 Speaker 6: receiver up front. 1524 01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:44,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is all built off the running game. Not 1525 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:46,240 Speaker 1: much there on that run. 1526 01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:54,599 Speaker 7: Cody Russy, but a quality with the jersey rolled up 1527 01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,840 Speaker 7: that he was in the middle of that I can't. 1528 01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:58,919 Speaker 4: He usually has a white shirt underneath. 1529 01:11:58,960 --> 01:11:59,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, so yeah, it was a. 1530 01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,559 Speaker 4: These are things that's like twenty years from now and 1531 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,160 Speaker 4: we'll be like, oh, yeah. 1532 01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,400 Speaker 5: Remember Daniel Kuala used to roll his shirt up and 1533 01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,559 Speaker 5: have a white shirt underneath. Why do you know that. 1534 01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's already those things. 1535 01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,120 Speaker 5: Oh and it looks like cool Strange is making this 1536 01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:18,720 Speaker 5: way back over. 1537 01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,439 Speaker 6: It's the field now and he's been handed back his helmet. 1538 01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:27,080 Speaker 5: J J. Taylor rumbling, stumbling, bumbling. 1539 01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:32,640 Speaker 6: I missed that play because I smooth. 1540 01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:34,599 Speaker 5: Uh. Is it a handoff? 1541 01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's an outside zone handoff and a nice nice 1542 01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:41,479 Speaker 7: play by Marty Mapu putting his nose in there, reading 1543 01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,080 Speaker 7: it out, pacing out the running back. 1544 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:45,360 Speaker 1: Would be a glorious day when he gets that red 1545 01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:46,000 Speaker 1: jersey off. 1546 01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:48,439 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I think it's a positive that he's 1547 01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,960 Speaker 7: not on pup honestly. Yeah, I'll take it. 1548 01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,080 Speaker 5: Nose peck right, peck surgery. 1549 01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:54,400 Speaker 1: That was what. 1550 01:12:54,520 --> 01:13:01,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, so you got Marcus Jones playing a little little 1551 01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:07,160 Speaker 6: safety too. I was just kind of flipping with yeah Phillips, Yeah, 1552 01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,000 Speaker 6: oh pop, he's got him. 1553 01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:16,760 Speaker 5: Marcus Jones. I don't see it as a corner. Yeah, 1554 01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:18,320 Speaker 5: that was a tough play there. 1555 01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:22,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, he had him beat passes a little high. Yeah. 1556 01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:24,880 Speaker 6: I would have liked to see him, to Paul's pointing, 1557 01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,360 Speaker 6: a little more burst, you know, because they they basically 1558 01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:30,640 Speaker 6: what they flipped Phillips and Jones. So Jones was just 1559 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,559 Speaker 6: kind of waiting for for Douglas to get off the line, 1560 01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,880 Speaker 6: and Douglas ran across, and I mean even off the ball, 1561 01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:40,640 Speaker 6: Marcus just couldn't couldn't catch up Jase Douglas. 1562 01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:42,479 Speaker 4: It's Marcus Jones. 1563 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,479 Speaker 1: I mean, like that's not like no, but it's Douglas. 1564 01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:48,719 Speaker 4: But it's not something like Rodney Randall out there. It's 1565 01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,120 Speaker 4: Marcus Jones is like one of them. He can run, 1566 01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:52,559 Speaker 4: but the best athletes on the field. 1567 01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:54,000 Speaker 1: But who's going to cover Douglas. 1568 01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:56,240 Speaker 4: Oh, evidently not Marcus Jones. 1569 01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,320 Speaker 7: Oh we got another Uh oh. 1570 01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:02,679 Speaker 1: Oh it was down three. 1571 01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:07,880 Speaker 7: Uh I can't tell his jersey's rolled up. 1572 01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:09,120 Speaker 1: It's three. 1573 01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:14,280 Speaker 4: See him banging a turf? Yeah it is twenty nine? 1574 01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:17,400 Speaker 4: Maybe is that Hawkins? 1575 01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:21,559 Speaker 7: Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, I think he just bang knees 1576 01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:22,400 Speaker 7: with somebody. 1577 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:24,599 Speaker 5: The old the old knee bang. 1578 01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:29,120 Speaker 7: It just doesn't sound the old knee bang. 1579 01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:35,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, been around since the beginning of football around bone. 1580 01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,000 Speaker 6: Best story as old as side's why you wear those 1581 01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,000 Speaker 6: little knee pad, the little knee ones that hang over 1582 01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,679 Speaker 6: there your kneecap that don't really seem to do anything. 1583 01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:45,240 Speaker 1: He's being helped off. 1584 01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,639 Speaker 6: Like the thigh pads I get, I know, and even 1585 01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:50,960 Speaker 6: the hip pads, but like the butt crack pad and 1586 01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,280 Speaker 6: the little knee pads, I never quite caught those in football. 1587 01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:56,280 Speaker 5: While you wear those, oh I liked it. I liked 1588 01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:56,960 Speaker 5: knee pads. 1589 01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:58,400 Speaker 7: The butt crack pad is big. 1590 01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, you fall on that, you get hurt, protect your 1591 01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:02,439 Speaker 5: butt cracked. 1592 01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:04,480 Speaker 7: You don't want to break your tailbone. 1593 01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:09,000 Speaker 5: You never got sacked. Huh you need that? Yeah? Oh yeah, 1594 01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:09,439 Speaker 5: I got you. 1595 01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:14,320 Speaker 6: Now as a six ft one hundred and ninety pound 1596 01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,120 Speaker 6: offensive and defensive lineman, I uh yeah, I didn't. 1597 01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:19,000 Speaker 4: I didn't A took pride to never getting put on 1598 01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:19,720 Speaker 4: my backside. 1599 01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,639 Speaker 5: I got put on my backside every single down I played. 1600 01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:29,400 Speaker 4: Again, we didn't use pads my day traces. 1601 01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:29,320 Speaker 5: So early time. 1602 01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:40,040 Speaker 7: Is that running back here strong? That's a little bounce. 1603 01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:43,400 Speaker 1: Bounce with me. 1604 01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,600 Speaker 7: The conditioning guys are back, but I don't none of 1605 01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,840 Speaker 7: them have helmets, so I don't think it's back back. 1606 01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:08,559 Speaker 5: But so who was I see. 1607 01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:10,720 Speaker 7: Trent Brown and Judean and Remandre. 1608 01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,040 Speaker 5: Okay, I have all three of those guys. 1609 01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:19,600 Speaker 6: Shot a good three pretty good players. 1610 01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:28,519 Speaker 7: Far more sack rushing on sixty six. Lucy, Yeah, I'm 1611 01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,800 Speaker 7: not sure, sir, they like Rusie. I think it's on 1612 01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:33,840 Speaker 7: the active roster as by the end of the year 1613 01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,960 Speaker 7: last year if I'm not mistaken, but have a little 1614 01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,799 Speaker 7: bit of a rough practice. 1615 01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:42,439 Speaker 4: So thumbs down. 1616 01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:45,439 Speaker 1: Well you get Jake Andrews out. 1617 01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:52,240 Speaker 5: You got to make the most of these opportunities, right, 1618 01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:54,440 Speaker 5: Mick Sorely Again. 1619 01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,080 Speaker 6: Now, do you think that they're u that they they 1620 01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,160 Speaker 6: have an offer out potentially to a running back and 1621 01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:04,800 Speaker 6: they and they would sign him if he would sign 1622 01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,719 Speaker 6: said offer, or do you think that they're maybe slow 1623 01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:09,920 Speaker 6: playing it a little bit just to see. 1624 01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:11,400 Speaker 5: What they got in some of their young guys to 1625 01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:12,280 Speaker 5: see exactly. 1626 01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:14,680 Speaker 4: Great question, Great question. My guess is they have an 1627 01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:16,200 Speaker 4: offer out there to Ezekieler. 1628 01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:18,920 Speaker 1: That's what I heard that they're really Yeah you heard that. 1629 01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:19,760 Speaker 1: I heard that. 1630 01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:22,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, is this another one of those musket fire things. 1631 01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:26,439 Speaker 1: No, I thought. I think Reese mentioned it this morning, 1632 01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:27,759 Speaker 1: that there's an offer out there. 1633 01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:31,519 Speaker 5: Yeah, I did not care to say that. I might 1634 01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:32,559 Speaker 5: have been blacking out. 1635 01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:36,439 Speaker 6: This tough like you know what what what you know, 1636 01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:38,320 Speaker 6: Let's just say the Jets offer Cook something. 1637 01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:41,200 Speaker 5: You know, it could be way more, could be way less. Like, 1638 01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:43,960 Speaker 5: you know, it's kind of hard to make the offer before. 1639 01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,200 Speaker 6: You feel like the market for these running backs that 1640 01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,160 Speaker 6: are you know, want a lot of money. 1641 01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:51,080 Speaker 7: And yeah, I think Dalvin you gotta wait and see 1642 01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,760 Speaker 7: what He's the first domino to fall. I think once 1643 01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,840 Speaker 7: Dalvin signed somewhere, then I think you'll see Zeke sign 1644 01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:59,200 Speaker 7: and maybe even Leonard Fournett sign. 1645 01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,200 Speaker 4: At that If you're one of the teams that is 1646 01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:05,559 Speaker 4: interested in four Nett or Elliott, like you don't want 1647 01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:06,800 Speaker 4: Cook to sign first. 1648 01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:10,120 Speaker 1: Right, you do that for yeah, because he's gonna make 1649 01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:13,000 Speaker 1: a lot more than those What's what's going on here? 1650 01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:16,080 Speaker 1: That's the stuff getting hurt here, guys, team's getting all 1651 01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:18,160 Speaker 1: everybody's gathering in the middle. 1652 01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,880 Speaker 5: This feels like we got Bill in the teaching moment. 1653 01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm not sure. 1654 01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,120 Speaker 6: We're gonna hit right, now, but let's be respectful and 1655 01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:28,200 Speaker 6: Bill likes what's going on out there. 1656 01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:33,760 Speaker 7: At the same time with the running backs, though, I 1657 01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,639 Speaker 7: think for the teams like the Patriots that have shown 1658 01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:39,080 Speaker 7: a little bit of interest in Dalvin Cook, I think 1659 01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:41,800 Speaker 7: they're waiting to see if they have a chance at 1660 01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,839 Speaker 7: Dalvin Cook before they just swoop in on on Zeke Elliott. 1661 01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:52,160 Speaker 5: So yeah, Bill, Bill's got the whole squad around him 1662 01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:52,519 Speaker 5: right now. 1663 01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:57,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, some palms up. 1664 01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:03,639 Speaker 4: Did you guys see anything like No, I haven't seen 1665 01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:04,759 Speaker 4: it being overly chippy. 1666 01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:05,120 Speaker 5: I mean. 1667 01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,000 Speaker 4: The first time they hit it, so you see a 1668 01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:09,400 Speaker 4: little like after the whistle. 1669 01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:11,000 Speaker 1: But I don't think it was that. I think it's 1670 01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:12,280 Speaker 1: just I think just. 1671 01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,880 Speaker 5: Are they dragging you? Yeah, he's trying to lift them up. 1672 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:16,320 Speaker 1: They're just not sharp enough. 1673 01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:20,920 Speaker 7: Perhaps seemed like he didn't just speculate him. It seemed 1674 01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:23,920 Speaker 7: like he didn't like the the tempo of getting into 1675 01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,439 Speaker 7: that whatever they were about to do next. Guy's kind 1676 01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:27,920 Speaker 7: of walking around and things like that. 1677 01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,400 Speaker 4: Maybe that's what it is, because he is there's a 1678 01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,680 Speaker 4: lot of handwaving. That's usually when he talks like that. 1679 01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:33,439 Speaker 5: He's not happy. 1680 01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:35,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's what are we doing? 1681 01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:36,120 Speaker 4: You know? 1682 01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:38,000 Speaker 5: Paul can tell you from experience. 1683 01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:48,799 Speaker 6: Geez really landing on right now, we'll see what's next. 1684 01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:50,240 Speaker 5: An extended talk. 1685 01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:01,639 Speaker 1: They're going with the ball cap this year, not the visor. Yeah, 1686 01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:03,760 Speaker 1: that red hoodie man. 1687 01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:06,519 Speaker 7: That was a long That was a long talk. 1688 01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:08,160 Speaker 4: It was about two minutes. 1689 01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:11,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're breaking it up. Now get the clock on 1690 01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:12,000 Speaker 1: that one. 1691 01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:12,439 Speaker 5: I did. 1692 01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:20,400 Speaker 1: And now we are at the eleven yard line. 1693 01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:25,720 Speaker 6: It's like we got Matt Sokell out there. 1694 01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:32,760 Speaker 7: That's Henry and Socle. That's the two tight ends, looks like, 1695 01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:34,840 Speaker 7: and then. 1696 01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:45,120 Speaker 1: Juju and Parker. I got my goal line. I got 1697 01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:49,720 Speaker 1: my goal line touchdown. It was a nice cut. Who 1698 01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:50,559 Speaker 1: was that Harris? 1699 01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:52,160 Speaker 7: Harris tem Bentley Hadham. 1700 01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:54,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it was a touchdown, but it 1701 01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:55,679 Speaker 4: was still a good cut. 1702 01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:57,000 Speaker 5: I don't think he would have gotten all the. 1703 01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:00,000 Speaker 1: Way Yeah no, but he would have gotten one or two. 1704 01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:01,800 Speaker 4: But we got a little goal line. 1705 01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:06,640 Speaker 5: I'm very happy. Paul can go home happy. 1706 01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:09,559 Speaker 1: Maybe that's what he was preparing, that's why he brought 1707 01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:11,599 Speaker 1: him in. Look, we're gonna do a goal line now. 1708 01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:16,160 Speaker 1: I don't I don't want any chippiness. That's I could 1709 01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:17,160 Speaker 1: speak to friendly. 1710 01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:19,920 Speaker 5: That's not the way it's designed. 1711 01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:21,280 Speaker 1: And you got to catch that. 1712 01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:22,960 Speaker 4: That's not the way it's designed. That's not a good 1713 01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:24,720 Speaker 4: throw either. He probably should have caught it, but not 1714 01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:29,160 Speaker 4: a good throw, a handoff of play action fake to nobody, 1715 01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:32,080 Speaker 4: and then the timing was all off. 1716 01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:36,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, that looks like a miscommunication, busted play. 1717 01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:40,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess Bill didn't say no miscommunications or busted 1718 01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:41,760 Speaker 5: players in this two minutes ago. 1719 01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,560 Speaker 4: Well, Bill, you didn't say anything about miscommunication. 1720 01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:47,479 Speaker 1: You mean we have to talk. It was implied. 1721 01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:51,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean based on you know, sort of pulling 1722 01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:52,720 Speaker 4: for Harris a little bit. You'd like to see him 1723 01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:54,160 Speaker 4: make that catch, but not a good throw. 1724 01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:56,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. 1725 01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:58,439 Speaker 6: Jonathan Jones, Yeah, I think j Jones would have had 1726 01:21:58,479 --> 01:21:59,400 Speaker 6: you to. 1727 01:21:59,080 --> 01:21:59,960 Speaker 5: Sniff that one out. 1728 01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:04,599 Speaker 7: Yeah, although I will say that once they actually are 1729 01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:06,840 Speaker 7: tackling to the ground, that's that's a tackle that you 1730 01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:08,920 Speaker 7: hope Juju breaks. I mean, that's why he's here. 1731 01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, good play, though, I mean, you know, just generally 1732 01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:13,200 Speaker 5: it didn't wasn't really. 1733 01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:17,320 Speaker 1: Jeez. 1734 01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:20,320 Speaker 4: I've been a little underwhelmed with him. 1735 01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:21,160 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie. 1736 01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:25,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, Juju, I think he's definitely some one of those 1737 01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:29,240 Speaker 7: guys he's not gonna get open on his own like 1738 01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:31,600 Speaker 7: we've been talking about. He's someone that's gonna be a 1739 01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:34,840 Speaker 7: part of scheme things that will hopefully get him open. 1740 01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:38,360 Speaker 4: I think Gonzalez has owned him and that's not good. 1741 01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:42,080 Speaker 1: Maybe it is good, right. 1742 01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:45,960 Speaker 5: No, it's not good. Is that strong? 1743 01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,160 Speaker 1: Not much there? This is the twos in now. 1744 01:22:56,080 --> 01:23:02,800 Speaker 5: I was like, all right, there's still some some vets 1745 01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:05,679 Speaker 5: out there, even though it's the second D with Tabai 1746 01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,160 Speaker 5: and Carl Davis. 1747 01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,800 Speaker 6: Hey, Kendrick Bourne, alright, say hello. 1748 01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:17,120 Speaker 7: I think Amphony Jennings would have. 1749 01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:21,200 Speaker 6: Overly celebrates put Billy Zappy into the socios dot com field. 1750 01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:24,320 Speaker 4: Yeah again, Mike nice Job. 1751 01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,360 Speaker 7: Was there to make the block, but it was late, 1752 01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:30,840 Speaker 7: and I think Amphony Jennings did him a favor by 1753 01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:31,599 Speaker 7: not running him. 1754 01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:33,799 Speaker 1: Over blasting him into Zappy. 1755 01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:35,920 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1756 01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,800 Speaker 6: Still though, good to see Kendrick Bourne get involved, moving 1757 01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:41,320 Speaker 6: a ball up to the five. 1758 01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,880 Speaker 5: Circle emotion and firks. 1759 01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:49,559 Speaker 7: That was a good run. 1760 01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:52,160 Speaker 4: Yeah another jump, nice jump cut in the hole. 1761 01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:53,240 Speaker 5: See. 1762 01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:56,599 Speaker 4: The whole Mapoo thing is interesting to me. The guy 1763 01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:58,639 Speaker 4: who was the most physical on that play was Moppoo 1764 01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:01,439 Speaker 4: and if I'm an anybody on offense, I'm not hitting 1765 01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:02,720 Speaker 4: him right. 1766 01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:04,960 Speaker 5: That caused a. 1767 01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:07,559 Speaker 4: Problem at joint practices one year a few years ago, 1768 01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:09,800 Speaker 4: I forget who guy in red? Someone was in red 1769 01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:13,120 Speaker 4: and they go and they were annoyed. 1770 01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:14,960 Speaker 5: That's annoying. 1771 01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:17,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not fair. You got a red shirt and 1772 01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:29,320 Speaker 1: you're you're getting chippy. No, Now mcsorley's out there. 1773 01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:33,360 Speaker 5: Oh boy, be nice, there. 1774 01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:45,479 Speaker 1: You go, jas cool? What's that light a crowd today 1775 01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,599 Speaker 1: than we've had the last four days. Yeah, that's for sure. 1776 01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:52,240 Speaker 1: People back to work. 1777 01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:58,479 Speaker 7: You gotta know the schedule, you gotta know pads is what. 1778 01:24:58,640 --> 01:24:59,800 Speaker 7: It really is fun to. 1779 01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:04,280 Speaker 6: Go come on, especially like I mean, there's good seats 1780 01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:06,920 Speaker 6: to be had too, so it almost like double reason 1781 01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:07,360 Speaker 6: to come. 1782 01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:22,640 Speaker 4: On this day, right. 1783 01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:22,479 Speaker 1: Pop in motion probably would have been a sound Yeah. 1784 01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:25,840 Speaker 6: Oh and Rally Web can't come down with the throw 1785 01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:26,840 Speaker 6: in the back of the end zone that. 1786 01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:28,600 Speaker 1: He was closed in on the quarterback. 1787 01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,040 Speaker 7: I really love that play design though, there's just so 1788 01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:35,439 Speaker 7: much window dressing and misdirection going on. You got the 1789 01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:38,320 Speaker 7: back action and Pop Douglas going to the right and 1790 01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:40,160 Speaker 7: then you have the route coming back to the left 1791 01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:42,680 Speaker 7: and that those are the types of routes where the 1792 01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:44,240 Speaker 7: receiver gets lost and all that. 1793 01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:46,439 Speaker 6: I was just thinking the same thing like these plays 1794 01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:51,360 Speaker 6: just looks like there's more going on. It's not so straightforward. 1795 01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:57,400 Speaker 1: Folksre in motion hand off up. 1796 01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:02,200 Speaker 6: The middle and he's in kind of yeah, I. 1797 01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:03,360 Speaker 5: Thought there was a little bit of a hole. 1798 01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:06,760 Speaker 7: I think he was in. Yeah. Nice nice kickout block 1799 01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:11,320 Speaker 7: by Ferksker on the split zone, comes across formation, makes 1800 01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:12,160 Speaker 7: that kickout block. 1801 01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:19,040 Speaker 1: It comes the ones back in. 1802 01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:22,240 Speaker 5: And they're putting it down on the one. 1803 01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:24,760 Speaker 4: This could be live, but the two checked out. 1804 01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:29,360 Speaker 5: Maybe the two put some music on getting to be. 1805 01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:33,840 Speaker 4: Women and children might not want to be watching here. 1806 01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:40,760 Speaker 4: So we still have Mafi at left guard here next 1807 01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:41,360 Speaker 4: to Andrews. 1808 01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:45,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, so, but yeah, we got a real heavy defensive 1809 01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:49,519 Speaker 6: line here with white guy Godshaw Davis and what. 1810 01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:52,320 Speaker 7: This is six so line? This is imbalanced? 1811 01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:56,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is this is pure goal line versus goal line. 1812 01:26:56,439 --> 01:27:01,000 Speaker 7: D I think you got it there. But yeah, this 1813 01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:04,479 Speaker 7: is interesting that they don't know about that close they 1814 01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:05,639 Speaker 7: go with the sixth of the line. 1815 01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:09,920 Speaker 6: Henry says, yes, I'm gonna go with him. 1816 01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:11,400 Speaker 1: I need a goal line ref here. 1817 01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:13,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I needed someone to give me a call and 1818 01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:15,759 Speaker 4: that it was close, just a pile that was really close. 1819 01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:17,880 Speaker 5: We're gonna have to go to review. 1820 01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:23,320 Speaker 6: So you got r Reef and McDermott on the Oh no, 1821 01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:27,639 Speaker 6: so you got yeah, you got Stupor at left tackle, 1822 01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:32,040 Speaker 6: and then you got McDermott off his left and. 1823 01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:33,200 Speaker 1: Who is our fullback right here? 1824 01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:33,439 Speaker 5: Evan? 1825 01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:42,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, that one would definitely got He got blowed up already, 1826 01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:45,320 Speaker 4: fumbled those threes, double whammy. 1827 01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:50,240 Speaker 7: Mac Wilson. Yeah, nice play by him, he was in there. 1828 01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:53,400 Speaker 7: But interesting couple of interesting things. 1829 01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:58,599 Speaker 5: Who carried on that play? Was it? Uh? 1830 01:27:58,720 --> 01:27:59,759 Speaker 1: Why did I think it was strong? 1831 01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:03,479 Speaker 4: I think it's Kevin Harris. I think it was strong, 1832 01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:06,160 Speaker 4: but it would make more sense that it was Harris. Yeah, 1833 01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:08,080 Speaker 4: well Harris is in the huddle right now. I didn't 1834 01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:11,040 Speaker 4: see extreme, you know, someone run off and someone. 1835 01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:14,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's over there, so you probably would. 1836 01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:14,960 Speaker 5: Have seen it. 1837 01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:15,640 Speaker 1: It was. 1838 01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:17,120 Speaker 5: It was. That's not good for my boy. 1839 01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:20,000 Speaker 7: A couple you know, interesting little things. I know, can't 1840 01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:22,840 Speaker 7: say too much about. We talked about, Okay, well what 1841 01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:24,400 Speaker 7: are they going to do without a full back on 1842 01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:27,080 Speaker 7: the roster when it comes to these short yarded situations 1843 01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:29,040 Speaker 7: and we're seeing a little there you go a little 1844 01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:30,800 Speaker 7: glimpse of what what they have in mind. 1845 01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:38,639 Speaker 1: I had enough shot. That's a throat in nowhere. That's 1846 01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:42,519 Speaker 1: that corner, complete corner end zone that has not looked good. 1847 01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:50,719 Speaker 4: Wow, not happy with the offense once again in case 1848 01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:52,200 Speaker 4: our MIC's not picking that up. 1849 01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,479 Speaker 1: That needs to a lot of battle. I think so 1850 01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:56,799 Speaker 1: might be rooting for Zappy. 1851 01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:59,240 Speaker 5: You think he's rooting for himself. 1852 01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:00,679 Speaker 1: He wants to try to back in there. 1853 01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:04,120 Speaker 4: I think he's thinking to himself, you know, if only 1854 01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:06,120 Speaker 4: I came along, I mean, after. 1855 01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:07,080 Speaker 1: McSorley, who would you go to? 1856 01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:10,920 Speaker 5: Probably so way the thing. 1857 01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,280 Speaker 7: Zoe just has a soft spot for backup quarterback. 1858 01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:19,280 Speaker 1: All right, it z happy now, nice play? 1859 01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:21,680 Speaker 4: Oh good, good second effort. 1860 01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:25,280 Speaker 1: Uh oh, somebody's punching the ground. 1861 01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:30,519 Speaker 7: That's Bill Bill Murray, not Bill Murray. Good practice for 1862 01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:31,719 Speaker 7: Bill Murray. Now we're limping. 1863 01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:35,759 Speaker 1: Everybody's jogging. 1864 01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:37,040 Speaker 5: I don't what time is it. 1865 01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:39,960 Speaker 4: GE's eleven two. 1866 01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:42,880 Speaker 5: What time we get Well, we didn't start to We 1867 01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:43,599 Speaker 5: started way later. 1868 01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:45,080 Speaker 4: I have no idea when this is going to end 1869 01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:46,160 Speaker 4: because it started so late. 1870 01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:48,960 Speaker 1: Well, and I wouldn't be surprised if this is a 1871 01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,920 Speaker 1: little shorter because they you know, according to the schedule, 1872 01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,240 Speaker 1: they got seven days of practice in a row, so 1873 01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:56,760 Speaker 1: they're going to ramp up throughout the week. 1874 01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:01,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, Max running over to the so I think it's 1875 01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:04,160 Speaker 4: six But yeah, your point is taken. And they're also 1876 01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:07,040 Speaker 4: in pads for the first time, and especially those guys 1877 01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:07,519 Speaker 4: up front. 1878 01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:09,320 Speaker 5: We're doing a lot of a lot of banging. 1879 01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:12,320 Speaker 1: Yep, right, Mike, yep. I think. 1880 01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:15,320 Speaker 5: So it looks like everyone's going down to the hills. 1881 01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:16,639 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1882 01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:18,760 Speaker 1: I mean, if they do what they did yesterday, then 1883 01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:20,920 Speaker 1: after the hills, they came back and they did a 1884 01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:22,160 Speaker 1: little bit of work after that. 1885 01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:24,200 Speaker 5: But that's just the post practice. 1886 01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:27,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you're calling. 1887 01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:29,120 Speaker 5: It, Yeah, you're calling it. 1888 01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:31,880 Speaker 1: I guess that'll be uh it for today's practice. But 1889 01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:34,200 Speaker 1: I just want to let remind people. 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