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Speaker 2: Below a commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy

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Speaker 1: The top Russian general has been assassinated.

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Speaker 4: This was an audacious assassination in the Russian capital Moscow.

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Speaker 1: This morning.

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Speaker 4: Ukraine Security Services releasing this video apparently showing the moment

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Speaker 4: that Lieutenant General Igor Krilov, the man in charge of

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Speaker 4: Sources telling ABC News that Ukraine Security Services YESBU was

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Speaker 5: Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is facing the biggest political

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Speaker 5: crisis of his career. There's talk that he could even

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Speaker 5: step down within hours or days after his finance minister

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Speaker 1: A heartbroken community searching for answers after a teacher and

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Speaker 6: The shooting happened inside a classroom in a study hall

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Speaker 1: Overnight, police identifying the shooter as fifteen year old Natalie

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Speaker 6: She was a student at the school and evidence suggests

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Speaker 6: she died from a self afflicted gunshot.

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Speaker 7: Woon Gop voted to a peach or convict Trump. You

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Speaker 7: most part. Now just five of them, just five of

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Speaker 3: Think about the shooter.

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Speaker 9: On committee that's been investigating January sixth just released its

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Speaker 9: final report for this year. It accuses Liz Cheney of

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Speaker 9: It formally recommends that the Federal Bureau of Investigation criminally

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Speaker 1: Ladies, Joe, Welcome toard today's edition Human Events Daily here

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Speaker 1: in Washington, DC. Today's December seventeen, twenty four Anno dominie

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Speaker 1: Liz Shaney own no, no, no, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 1: And not just Liz Cheney, but Alissa Pharrah.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, that's right, Alyssa.

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Speaker 1: Farre from the view really, yes, really, And who else

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Speaker 1: do we have, well, well, well, none other than my

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Speaker 1: favorite all time low level conspirator in the Jan six operation,

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Speaker 1: Cassidy Hutchinson, or, as we lovingly call her here on

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Speaker 3: The Huch.

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Speaker 1: Oh, yes, the hutch.

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Speaker 1: You know, there was always something, you know, I just

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Speaker 1: got to say, there was always something about the Hutch

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Speaker 1: program devoted so much time and energy to collecting her

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Speaker 1: text messages, and her text messages with Alyssa Farrah and

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Speaker 3: Oh no, you.

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Speaker 10: Should have set up auto delete hutch what were you thinking.

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Speaker 10: Don't ever, by the way, now we know why the

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Speaker 10: And then you let a guy like Jack Posobic on

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Speaker 10: Human Events Daily find it, because you're gonna find yourself

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Speaker 10: in a world of trouble. And that's exactly where Cassidy Hutchinson,

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Speaker 10: Alissa Farra, and Liz Cheney find themselves now. So burning perjury,

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Speaker 10: federal crime, conspiracy against rights, federal crime, witness tampering, federal crime.

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Speaker 1: And here's the issue, okay. And this all comes out

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Speaker 12: Hey, Jack, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: So I've got to get your take the latest here,

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Speaker 1: I mean Liz Cheney, Alyssa Farah, Cassidy Hutchinson, the jan

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Speaker 1: sixth Committee. Look, we knew that when they were deleting

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Speaker 1: President Trump of course has said again and again that

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Speaker 12: Yeah. Well, look, this is a gang that can't shoot straight.

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Speaker 2: And the fact of the matter is that how often

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Speaker 2: Everybody needs to be held accountable. Wealth if there was

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, the the big picture here is the deep state

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Speaker 12: Within a week he had to withdraw. Now he'll put

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Speaker 2: They want scalps, right because they realized they were defenestrated

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Speaker 2: Now is think they're teeth into any one of these

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Speaker 12: Are going well.

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Speaker 2: The establishing media is going to keep trying, but I

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Speaker 12: But the reason why.

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Speaker 2: They're trying is they were completely rejected by the American

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Speaker 2: public on election day.

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Speaker 1: Well, and someone, you know, I haven't brought it up

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Speaker 1: too much because it's like it's going a little bit.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's going really well right now because people

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Speaker 1: aren't pushing it. Look, there were so many people that

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Speaker 1: were trying to run operations and to dislodge the Cash

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Speaker 1: PTEL nomination and dislodge that process and try to knock

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Speaker 1: him out with these anonymous sources, and someone's planning to

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Speaker 1: get thing here, someone's playing oh, you know, there was

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Speaker 1: this op in Nigeria and it was all his fault

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Speaker 1: come out and say, no, that's not what happened at all,

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Speaker 1: and Cash was great as a matter of fact, and

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Speaker 1: you know, people want to blame him for stuff that

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Speaker 1: wasn't his fault. And you know, it really looks as

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Speaker 1: though Cash has been doing just a just an absolute

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Speaker 1: banger job going through having these meetings and he's knocking

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Speaker 1: them down one by one by one. I would say

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Speaker 1: the exact same thing about Toulci Gabbard. By the way,

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Speaker 1: you know, we keep hearing, Oh, there's people who say

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Speaker 1: she has issues.

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Speaker 3: Oh there's people who say she is.

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Speaker 1: Who are these people? Who are they? Why won't they

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Speaker 1: come out and one of them, one of the And

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Speaker 1: I just I'm just going to say it, Matt. One

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Speaker 1: of the names that I keep hearing is Senator Mike Rownds.

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Speaker 1: I call him Senator short Round, and you know, Senator

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Speaker 1: short Round from South Dakota. They're you know, I've been

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Speaker 1: hearing some some chatter, a little bit of DC chatter

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Speaker 1: that Senator Mike Rownds has some issues with Tulci Gabbert.

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Speaker 1: I'd love for him to come forward and tell his

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Speaker 1: constituents that he is not going to be voting for

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Speaker 1: the pick of Donald J.

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Speaker 3: Trump.

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Speaker 1: And I just want him to do that. And I

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Speaker 1: think that all of the senators should come out and

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Speaker 1: say these things publicly. What would you say, Matt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, look, I think this is why President Trump

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Speaker 2: is in a game of chicken with the Republican establishment

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Speaker 2: in Washington. He's going to show that he's in charge.

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Speaker 2: This is his party, this is his movement. They're only

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Speaker 2: there and they only have a majority thanks to him,

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Speaker 2: right like, And so he needs to stick with these

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Speaker 2: nominees and force them to vote on them. There will

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Speaker 2: be no withdrawals. That's over. Like that time is done.

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Speaker 2: These are the nominees. This is the choice. So if

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Speaker 2: you're going to vote, vote against him. Vote against him.

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Speaker 2: I dare you and see what happens, right like, see what.

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Speaker 1: By the way, by the way, I just got this

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Speaker 1: in as so we were we were talking about Senator

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Speaker 1: short round yesterday, Senator Mike Rownds. I'll go back to

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Speaker 1: calling him Senator Mike Rounds because we were doing this

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Speaker 1: whole segment. Just got a message from my producer, producer

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Speaker 1: Boneless that Senator Mike Rownds, as of about one pm

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Speaker 1: today came out and said that he will vote to

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Speaker 1: confirm all of President Trump's cabinet nominees. The President should

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Speaker 1: get the benefit of the doubt on any of his nominees.

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Speaker 3: Senator.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're seeing that from other you know, establishment

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Speaker 2: type of Republican senators. And again that's the reason why

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Speaker 2: President Trump should stick with these nominees and force the

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Speaker 2: Senate to confirm them, right like again, if there are

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Speaker 2: actual issues with any of them that are serious, then

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Speaker 2: you cross that bridge when you came there. But the

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Speaker 2: fact is that anonymous sources and thinly veiled attacks from

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Speaker 2: the establishment media ain't going to do the trick. In fact,

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Speaker 2: there was more evidence against Justice Breck Havanaugh before his

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Speaker 2: confirmation to the US Supreme Court than there is against

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Speaker 2: all of Donald Trump's nominees combined, and all of that

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Speaker 2: was flimsy and nonsense in the Kavanaugh situation. In this case,

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Speaker 2: this case, it's even flimsy, are even more nonsensical. So

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Speaker 2: the fact is is that this is a game of

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Speaker 2: chicken between the deep state and Donald Trump and the

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Speaker 2: Senate stands in between. So the question is is which

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Speaker 2: side of the Senate Republicans on Are they on the

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Speaker 2: side of Republican voters and President Trump or are they

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Speaker 2: on the side of the deep state and the Democrats

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Speaker 2: right like, And so that's the question.

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Speaker 1: Since you brought it up there, I do have to

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Speaker 1: throw out that game respects game. And you know, people say,

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Speaker 1: you know Posto has got the receipts, but did I

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Speaker 1: ever think that Brett Kavanaugh would have the receipts of

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Speaker 1: his own high school calendar with the activities on it

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Speaker 1: handwritten from like was it nineteen eighty six, from like

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Speaker 1: thirty years before that would come up and to be

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Speaker 1: able to debunk the anonymous well at first it was anonymous,

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Speaker 1: then later became blazy. Ford's allegations against him was to say, man,

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Speaker 1: you know that guy with a receipts game like that,

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Speaker 1: who's got a receipts game like that? A Supreme Court justice,

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Speaker 1: that's who. Fantastic fantastic move. And I will never ever

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Speaker 1: get over the fact he still had the calendar.

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Speaker 2: Pete heigsaid, still has his letter from West Point.

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Speaker 1: Right, he's except with the letter from West Point. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly right, that's exactly right, because they were gonna lie.

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Speaker 1: They were gonna we only got a minute left to

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Speaker 1: the break, but they were gonna lie about Pete Heggseth

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Speaker 1: that Pro Publica had, the story was all set, they

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Speaker 1: had the statement, they had everything they needed, and then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, here comes Pete haig Seth that says,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, I got a letter from the commandant

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Speaker 1: of West Point. Here it is. And if he hadn't

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Speaker 1: saved that letter that keep in mind these are US

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Speaker 1: government officials would have been on the record lying about him,

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Speaker 1: and they conspired to lie about him. But because he

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Speaker 1: kept the receipts, he knew what he was in for.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, that sounds like the type of

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Speaker 1: guy who want to, I don't know, maybe be running

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Speaker 1: the military. Matt Boyle, where can people follow you?

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Speaker 3: Brother?

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Speaker 2: Just go to ex Twitter at m boil one and

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Speaker 2: at real Matt Boyle on true social and you go

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Speaker 2: to brightbart dot com the follow of our great teams reporting.

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Speaker 1: Now am I going to see at amphesis weekend or what?

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Speaker 12: I'm not gonna be there, but we're gonna have something.

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Speaker 1: Ah, come on, man, you're killing me. You're killing you.

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Speaker 1: Weren't a well you were at the other one, but

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Speaker 1: I didn't get to sit down with you.

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Speaker 3: So you owe me, Boyle, you owe me. Stay tuned

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Speaker 3: me right back.

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Speaker 12: Hey Jack, where's Jack?

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Speaker 1: Where's Jack? Where is it Jack?

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Speaker 6: I want to see you.

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Speaker 1: Great job, Jack, Thank you, what a job you do.

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Speaker 1: You know, we have an incredible thing.

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Speaker 9: We're always talking about the fake.

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Speaker 1: News for the band, but we have guys, and these

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Speaker 1: are the guys you're forgetting publishers. Jockerswick back live here

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Speaker 1: Human Events Daily, Washington, d C. By the way, bumpshot

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Speaker 1: of DC. I wish DC looked nice and sunny right now.

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Speaker 1: It's a little warm today, but it's been rainy and awful,

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Speaker 1: so I just have to I just have to laugh sometimes.

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Speaker 1: But folks, there's been a lot going on in our country,

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Speaker 1: and it feels like the era of peak woke has

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Speaker 1: been passed. And it feels in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, it doesn't mean it's gone, but

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Speaker 1: it means that there are a number of things that

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Speaker 1: hopefully as a country, that the fever has broken and

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Speaker 1: we can go back to actually start.

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Speaker 3: Engaging with in a serious manner.

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Speaker 1: And the acquittal of Daniel Penny just a couple of

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Speaker 1: days ago in New York City I think was a real,

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Speaker 1: a real game changer in terms of all this as

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Speaker 1: shows a tectonic shift has taken place in the United States. Well,

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Speaker 1: there was another case that involves some similar elements to

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Speaker 1: that from at least the political and criminal justice perspective

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Speaker 1: all the way back that started the BLM era and

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Speaker 1: the era of pea quoke, and that is the case

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Speaker 1: of George Floyd and his accused murderer Derek Chauvin, someone

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Speaker 1: who's also actually convicted of said murder. Well, Derek Chauvin,

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Speaker 1: who has always protested his innocence. He has always protested

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Speaker 1: the charges, and in fact his appeal was just taken

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Speaker 1: up by a judge in Minnesota. And the reporter who

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Speaker 1: just really broke this story, put together the documentary and

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Speaker 1: led the charge on so much of this is Liz Colin,

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Speaker 1: and she joins us now to tell us the story

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Speaker 1: of all the updates and just how this took place. Liz,

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Speaker 1: congratulations on your work. In a serious world, they'd be given,

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Speaker 1: they'd be naming awards after you at this point.

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Speaker 13: Well, thanks Jack, good to see you again. But it

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Speaker 13: does it seems like we live in a different day.

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Speaker 13: This is certainly the very first legal win for Derek Chauvin,

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Speaker 13: and we've been reporting all of it over here at

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Speaker 13: Alpha News. But this is a federal judge who has

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Speaker 13: finally come back approving this motion that has been in

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Speaker 13: the works four months to examine heart tissue in George

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Speaker 13: Floyd and also some fluids from George Floyd's body as well,

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Speaker 13: And basically this is related to what's called a paraganglioma.

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Speaker 13: This was discussed in the Fall of Minneapolis. Some doctors

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Speaker 13: came forward during Derek Chauvin's case to say, why wasn't

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Speaker 13: this tumor tested in George Floyd? In many cases it

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Speaker 13: can lead to sudden cardiac death.

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Speaker 12: They brought this information forward.

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Speaker 13: His attorney at the time did not act upon this information,

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Speaker 13: according to court documents, and also the judge, Judge Peter Cahill,

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Speaker 13: ignored it as well. So in this motion, the judge

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Speaker 13: has now said that this testing can take place. What really,

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Speaker 13: you know, does this tumor have anything to do with

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Speaker 13: with his death? A lot of people are also picking

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Speaker 13: up on the fact that George Floyd was not pronounced

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Speaker 13: dead until about nine to thirty that night, that's about

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Speaker 13: an hour after this incident took place, something that we

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Speaker 13: brought out in the documentary as well. So it's interesting

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Speaker 13: that that I think people are willing to have these

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Speaker 13: conversations now to look at this evidence, which is really

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Speaker 13: in black and white and has been since day one,

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Speaker 13: which we compiled for the book They're Lying and for

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Speaker 13: the documentary The Fall of Minneapolis. So this really is

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Speaker 13: the very first legal win for Derek Chauvin. We've also

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Speaker 13: done some reporting about a state appeal as well. That

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Speaker 13: is similar the fact that these medical records were.

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Speaker 1: Ignored Liz, and obviously certainly a pardon from Governor Tim

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Speaker 1: Wallas is probably nowhere near on the table for Derek Chauvin.

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Speaker 1: That being said, the federal charges are something that President

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Speaker 1: Trump could potentially pardon, So I just want to throw

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Speaker 1: that out there as other potential avenues or action on

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Speaker 1: these issues. But when we're talking about this appeal, I

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Speaker 1: learned something about the story of the appeal as I

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Speaker 1: was doing some research for this, And is it true

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Speaker 1: that the appeal was actually handwritten by Chauvin himself at

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Speaker 1: one point?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, this is really remarkable to even go back to

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Speaker 13: everything that Derek Chauvin has been through in prison. I mean,

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Speaker 13: something we've continued to follow was just eight days after

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Speaker 13: the documentary was released, that he's stabbed twenty two times

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Speaker 13: in prison. He loses access jack to all his materials

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Speaker 13: through that they're basically covered and coated with blood. He's

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Speaker 13: attacked in the law library as he's making copies the

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Speaker 13: day after Thanksgiving last year when this attack happens, so

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Speaker 13: he loses access to his case and loses access to

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Speaker 13: his computer. Basically through all of this as well. So

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Speaker 13: he writes a handwritten note, because the clock is ticking

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Speaker 13: on this entire appeal situation, writes a handwrit note that

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Speaker 13: I'm going to file this appeal. I'm working on it,

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Speaker 13: but some details from the fall of Minneapolis will be

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Speaker 13: included along with this this medical evidence. You know, here's

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Speaker 13: you know, here's that letter, and that's what was submitted.

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Speaker 1: To the judge.

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Speaker 13: And then his public defender went in and filled out

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Speaker 13: more of that appeal and this is now what that

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Speaker 13: judge has has ruled on. But you're right about this,

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Speaker 13: and that's something we also continue to follow what's happened

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Speaker 13: to him since he's been transferred now three different times,

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Speaker 13: this former FBI informant who tried to kill him. It

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Speaker 13: is now supposed to go on trial in February, but

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Speaker 13: this will be the fourth time that trial has been postponed.

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Speaker 1: Well, and Liz, I just have to say, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's there's something about the story that you just told

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Speaker 1: that gives us all pause and should give us all

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Speaker 1: pause that this is someone Derek Chauvin, who was so

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Speaker 1: persecuted in the court of public opinion prior to any

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Speaker 1: official preceding state or federal.

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Speaker 3: The federal charges.

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Speaker 1: I think he just he pled out because I don't

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Speaker 1: think he was he thought that there was any possibility

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Speaker 1: of the truth coming up in that trial, and there

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Speaker 1: probably wasn't at the time.

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Speaker 3: That he was and then.

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Speaker 1: Assaulted in prison, attempted to be killed in prison, I

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Speaker 1: should even say, and he was so isolated that he

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Speaker 1: had to write and appeal himself without even the use

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Speaker 1: of a printer. He hand wrote a letter to the

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Speaker 1: judge asking him to please take a look at the

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Speaker 1: fact essentially, as you say, George Floyd had a heart tumor,

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Speaker 1: which wasn't even brought up at trial by his initial attorney,

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Speaker 1: Eric Nelson. And the fact that so many other things

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Speaker 1: that were seemingly just brushed away at trial, for example,

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Speaker 1: as the fact that George Floyd's I believe they call

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Speaker 1: it anti mortem blood was take at the hospital Antonner

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Speaker 1: so before death, meaning that Floyd was alive when he

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Speaker 1: arrived at the hospital. And all of these things clearly

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Speaker 1: warrant just on a basic case of justice and the truth,

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Speaker 1: that there should be some kind of re examination of

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Speaker 1: what went on here.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, let's not forget this very problematic response by the

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Speaker 13: ambulance that day That was not allowed in Derek Chauvin's

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Speaker 13: trial either. You know normally that it would be a

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Speaker 13: minute or two before paramedics arrive. Well, that that was,

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Speaker 13: you know, nearly nearly ten minutes after going to the

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Speaker 13: wrong location. That's joked about basically in their body camera footage.

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Speaker 13: The paramedics are open that they got there, you know,

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Speaker 13: so late, and they can't even actually admit that in

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Speaker 13: Derek Chauvin's trial.

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Speaker 12: So it really is just sort.

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Speaker 13: Of all of these things that are compounded and how

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Speaker 13: the script really was written from the beginning going to

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Speaker 13: his trial. And Alex King speaks to this in the

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Speaker 13: Fall of Minneapolis. Remember he's the officer on the streets

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Speaker 13: for three days and is still serving time in prison

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Speaker 13: for this. He will be out soon, but he speaks

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Speaker 13: to this, is this what you want your justice system

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Speaker 13: to look like? You want it to be run by

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Speaker 13: mob mentality? And that's what we have to decide as

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Speaker 13: a country moving forward.

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Speaker 1: No, I think it's fascinating. In the next segment, I

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Speaker 1: do want to ask you some more about the specifics

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Speaker 1: of this appeal and the tumor in some of these

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Speaker 1: other pieces but I remember sitting there and I actually

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Speaker 1: watched the trial almost every day of it with my wife,

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Speaker 1: Tanya Tay And for folks who don't know, she was

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Speaker 1: born in Eastern Europe and so she's an immigrant to

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Speaker 1: the United States. And she said, it's amazing that you

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Speaker 1: have this system. And I said, what do you mean,

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Speaker 1: What do you mean it's amazing you have this system.

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Speaker 1: She said, well, you have a system where there's a

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Speaker 1: lawyer who can actually get up and advocate for you side,

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Speaker 1: because in some parts of the world that doesn't exist

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Speaker 1: at all. And I said to her. When the verdict

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Speaker 1: was read out, I said, well, unfortunately, it looks like

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Speaker 1: our system is going in that direction. Jack Psoba here

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Speaker 1: Human Events Daily, Liz Colin incredible and just earth shattering

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Speaker 1: news for Derek Chauvin in his appeal taken.

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Speaker 3: Up by a federal judge.

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Speaker 1: Right back Human Events Daily with all the latest. Jack

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Speaker 1: is a great guy. He's that fantastic book.

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Speaker 12: Everybody's talking about it.

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Speaker 1: You'll get it. Hetty's been my friend life from the

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Speaker 1: beginning of this whole fearful event.

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Speaker 11: And we're going to join you around this countrymen, all right.

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Speaker 1: Jacker Cibik we're back here with Liz Collin, who's been

742
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Speaker 1: doing fantastic work on the Derek Chauvin case, breaking scoop

743
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Speaker 1: after scoop and has interviewed Derek number of times. By

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Speaker 1: the way, Liz, so have you have you had a

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Speaker 1: chance to speak with him after this news has come

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Speaker 1: out of this ruling? Yeah?

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Speaker 13: Not since this ruling was just announced yesterday. It was

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Speaker 13: filed yesterday morning, So not not since then. I have

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Speaker 13: been in touch with his mother obviously, you know, just

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Speaker 13: any sort of light at the end of the tunnel

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Speaker 13: at this point, you know, he is set to be

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Speaker 13: released from prison fourteen years from now. That's the date

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Speaker 13: that they're working with. And they've had, you know, setback

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Speaker 13: after setback as well, finding a new attorney and a

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Speaker 13: lot of different legal maneuvers happening behind the scenes.

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Speaker 1: No, no, of course, And so walk us through a

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Speaker 1: little bit and give us some more understanding of what

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Speaker 1: the nature of this appeal is. And I think to

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Speaker 1: most people, hearing that George Floyd had a tumor, even

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Speaker 1: those of us who were watching the trial, really does

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Speaker 1: come as big news.

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Speaker 3: A heart tumor.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, and also it really was reported very early on

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Speaker 13: cardio pulmonary arrest is what appeared first on George Floyd's

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Speaker 13: death certificate. That was done within twelve hours of his death.

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Speaker 13: His autopsy was publicly available, however I should should say

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Speaker 13: publicly available. It was available, and you have these meetings

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Speaker 13: happening behind the scenes with prosecutors and doctor Baker, the

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Speaker 13: Hennepin County Medical examiner. And this is when the word

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Speaker 13: homicide is added to the autopsy and complicated by law enforcement.

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Speaker 13: Subdual is added to the autopsy as well, So that

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Speaker 13: did not appear within those initial twelve hours and that

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Speaker 13: initial autopsy. So basically, these doctors came forward in twenty.

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Speaker 1: I can't let you. I can't let you skip over

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Speaker 1: your because you had the scoop on this. Were there

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Speaker 1: any meetings that federal officials may have held during that

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Speaker 1: time period.

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Speaker 13: Yes, you have the FBI present, you have prosecutors present

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Speaker 13: with the actual medical examiner. And I detail this quite

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Speaker 13: a bit in the book. They're lying the media of

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Speaker 13: the left and the death of George Floyd. But just

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Speaker 13: how this never has happened before. This is not something

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Speaker 13: where we bring a bunch of people in and get

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Speaker 13: their outside opinion. Doctor Baker in fact admits to the

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Speaker 13: pressure he was under in conducting George Floyd's autopsy. He

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Speaker 13: talks about that himself in court filing. So that's all

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Speaker 13: a part of the public record here as well. But

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Speaker 13: this information about the paraganglioma is presented to Eric Nell

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Speaker 13: and Derek Chauvin's attorney, also presented to Judge Peter Cahill.

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Speaker 12: Once these doctors.

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Speaker 13: Are getting word and seeing these this public documentation for

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Speaker 13: themselves about this paraganglioma, they're asking, you know, has this

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Speaker 13: been tested? The answer is no, well it should be

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Speaker 13: tested because in many cases it can lead to sudden

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Speaker 13: cardiac death. But instead of actually, you know, following through

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Speaker 13: with that testing at the time, Derek is not even

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Speaker 13: told about this tumor, doesn't understand its significance, is not

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Speaker 13: privyly the information from these doctors. So this is why

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Speaker 13: he's always sort of held on to this as information

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Speaker 13: that he thought should have been checked out further in

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Speaker 13: his case. So this federal judge has now said, let's

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Speaker 13: go ahead with that testing and see what, you know,

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Speaker 13: what the results yield here.

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Speaker 1: So is I guess then the line of thinking would

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Speaker 1: be if the tumor was in fact did play a

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Speaker 1: role in the cardiopulmonary arrest, which I mean it reasonably.

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Speaker 1: You would probably think that it would. Then the fact

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Speaker 1: that this information, this evidence, which of course would be

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Speaker 1: exculpatory to Chauvin, the fact that it was not included anywhere,

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Speaker 1: and that his defense team was not given Nelson, who,

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Speaker 1: by the way, really did a stand up job.

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Speaker 3: At the trial.

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Speaker 1: I mean he was under a lot of pressure himself

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Speaker 1: and did a very stand up job. I watched every

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Speaker 1: minute of it. The fact that this information was not

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Speaker 1: included or provided to the defense team would create a

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Speaker 1: huge issue for the conviction, would it not.

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Speaker 13: Well, this is where it's going to get a little complicated,

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Speaker 13: because you have a federal appeal. Also a state appeal

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Speaker 13: is in the works as well, which is similar pointing

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Speaker 13: to this tumor.

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Speaker 1: But there's already a.

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Speaker 13: Lot of information here. Jack At points to that George

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Speaker 13: Floyd died of a heart attack, and that's from the

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Speaker 13: very first autopsy. Again, there's no strangulation marks, there's no bruising.

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Speaker 13: George Floyd did not die of asphyxiation. Three times the

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Speaker 13: lethal limit of fentanyl in his system, methamphetamine. He has COVID,

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Speaker 13: he has enlarged organs, he has blockage in his heart.

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Speaker 13: These are all things that that are already there on

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Speaker 13: his autopsy report. It's just in the end it sounds

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Speaker 13: like jurors decided to go ahead and listen to the

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Speaker 13: expert witness for the prosecution and and not really focus

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Speaker 13: so much on you know.

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Speaker 12: The original autopsy.

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Speaker 13: Doctor Baker obviously took the stand in Derek Chauvin's trial

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Speaker 13: as well, So it's hard to predict what will what

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Speaker 13: will come of this, but but you know, this does

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Speaker 13: seem to show that people are at least willing to,

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Speaker 13: you know, look a look at this now, perhaps in

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Speaker 13: a different light.

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Speaker 1: No, I think it does. And the timing of it,

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Speaker 1: given all of the recent changes we've seen in our country,

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Speaker 1: given the acquittal of Daniel Penny, it just kind of

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Speaker 1: speaks to a certain zeitgeist or something in the air

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Speaker 1: that the worm has turned on so many of these

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Speaker 1: social justice and criminal justice issues that, as you say,

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Speaker 1: basic evidence questions about the fact that the medical team

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Speaker 1: wasn't able to arrive in time, something that Chauvin himself

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Speaker 1: would have had no control over, or by the way,

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Speaker 1: the fact that they were not able to perform to

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Speaker 1: perform basic life saving functions on Floyd immediately because of

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Speaker 1: the presence of the large crowd that had been held around,

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Speaker 1: which is again something that Chauvin would have had no

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Speaker 1: control over. All of these various things played major factors

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Speaker 1: in the untimely death of mister Floyd, but again, none

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Speaker 1: of those were things that were within Derek Chauvin's control

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Speaker 1: or his purview. The only thing that was was the

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Speaker 1: training he had received from the Minneapolis Police Department and

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Speaker 1: him following through the tactics that he had been trained on.

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Speaker 1: Liz Colin, Where could people go to get more information

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Speaker 1: about this because I think there's just a huge appetite

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Speaker 1: for it right now.

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Speaker 13: At follow Minneapolis dot com if you click on the

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Speaker 13: news section there we put all our updates, but also

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Speaker 13: elphanews dot org, follow me on x also Liz Colin

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Speaker 13: and Alpha.

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Speaker 1: NEWSMN on X two.

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Speaker 13: But good to see you, Jack, Thank you again for

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Speaker 13: bringing light to this case, and hope to see you

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Speaker 13: again here soon.

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Speaker 1: No, we'll certainly be back Liz Colin one day. They

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Speaker 1: will be naming awards after her. Merry Christmas, Liz, and

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen as always, you have my permission to

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Speaker 1: last York