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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another just any Round League podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Dan Hanson's name, joined by a room filled

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Speaker 1: with some heroes, Mark Sessler and Greg Rosa Doll. What

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Speaker 1: up boys? Hello Dan, I'm looking into your eyes right

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Speaker 1: now and it makes me uncomfortable. We were sworn. Actually,

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Speaker 1: we had our first We spoke about it a few

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Speaker 1: weeks ago on the podcast The Voice Coach. We mocked

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Speaker 1: Jeff Darlington about listening in on his his voice exercises.

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Speaker 1: If you remember Gold Center, they sounded like this, And

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Speaker 1: then we found out our boss, John Marvel let us

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Speaker 1: know that same day or maybe two days later, that

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Speaker 1: he had just signed us up to meet with Arthur Joseph,

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Speaker 1: who is a renowned speaking coach or that that might

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Speaker 1: website actually uh, and he kind of created this business

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Speaker 1: of teaching people how to speak. And we had our

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Speaker 1: first sit down with Arthur today in this very studio.

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Speaker 1: A lot of big name individuals, big names, I mean

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Speaker 1: heavy hitters, and now us and Adam Rank. I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to say a word on the entire show today

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Speaker 1: because it was clear getting his feedback that the three

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Speaker 1: of us and especially Dan have a lot of work

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Speaker 1: to do. No, I noticed that he didn't have a

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Speaker 1: lot to say to him. He studied you, Mark, he

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Speaker 1: stopped you several times, and actually he also said, we

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Speaker 1: weren't supposed to speak too much about what happened in

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Speaker 1: have a certain level of gravitas that you don't want

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Speaker 1: to mess with. But Mark, you struggle, Let's be honest. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think he when he he had a few little

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Speaker 1: fixes for me. Then he said, you're you know, you're fine,

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Speaker 1: just go about your way. And with Danny was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't even I'm looking at a big lump of clay.

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Speaker 1: We conform something out of this, but where do we go?

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Speaker 1: I don't even know where to begin. That was the

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Speaker 1: look on his face, lump being the operative word. You. Um,

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Speaker 1: you live in a world of denial. You're a strange man,

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Speaker 1: But I love you. Is that a new shirt? It

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Speaker 1: is newish some of a A guy on Twitter noted

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Speaker 1: that you have your own what was it? A shirt

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Speaker 1: closet separate from you know. I saw that yesterday and

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the guts. I you want to come take

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Speaker 1: a look at my collection of clothing. It is minimal

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Speaker 1: and obscenely without space. I I mean I absorbed maybe

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Speaker 1: one eighth of our closet. Um. All right, so today's

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Speaker 1: show Chris Westling, as you noticed at the top, you

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Speaker 1: didn't hear anybody say hi, di am. That's what West

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Speaker 1: says at the top of every show. What how would

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Speaker 1: you say? He says it? Did you do the whole

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Speaker 1: intro today? I feel like I blacked out during your

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Speaker 1: intro because right when you finish today, I thought, did

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Speaker 1: Dan do it? Did I? Did he do the whole? Thing?

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Speaker 1: Happens to me in my life It be suddenly and

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Speaker 1: I don't know what just happened. Sorry? Did you ever

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Speaker 1: see that suddenly that became the listeners issue? Sorry, that's

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Speaker 1: how I apologize. Did you ever see that Michael Keaton

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Speaker 1: movie where he where all of a sudden he started

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Speaker 1: to have these health issues my life? I think it

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Speaker 1: Mr Keaton's anyway, Um, what were we talking? Oh? Yeah, Wesley? Sorry,

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Speaker 1: what were we talking about? It? For Greg Hijack in

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Speaker 1: the last minute, Chris Wesley is not here. He is

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Speaker 1: on Hucka Poo's was Hucka Poo Island. He's on Tybee Island,

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Speaker 1: an establishment that he spends all this time that we

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Speaker 1: that just gives you an idea of what West has

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Speaker 1: course his Hi, Dian, you're saying that's how he sounds,

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Speaker 1: you don't. How would you say, I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: attempt to mimic his voice patterns, especially after what we've

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Speaker 1: just been Yeah, that's good, thanks, Thanks, Arthur Jones would

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Speaker 1: be proud. Okay before so we got a nice show

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Speaker 1: coming up to Arthur Joseph. Arthur Jones is the Cults

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Speaker 1: defensive end. Excuse me, Arthur Joseph. I thought that's who

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Speaker 1: we met with the Cult defensive um our roster reset,

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Speaker 1: gold standard. How are you a lot of football this weekend?

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Speaker 1: let's do some news. Let's do it. Rolando McClain is

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Speaker 1: Dan's looking at me as though I should save me.

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Speaker 1: Jim Thomas of the St. Louis Post Dispatch reported Sunday

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Speaker 1: Justin Tuck, Kevin booth, Um, Austin Howard, Donald Penn, Moraice, Jones,

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Speaker 1: Drew Antonio so a lot of guys they brought in.

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Speaker 1: Who who do you think will be the guy that

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Speaker 1: makes the biggest impression immediately? Jones and Woodley. I'll give

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Speaker 1: Woodley a chance to bounce back because he's still in

432
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Speaker 1: his upper twenties. He's shown he can be an elite

433
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Speaker 1: type of pass thresher. If he's just good across from Tuck,

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Speaker 1: they'll be solid. And I think James Jones has been

435
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Speaker 1: a guy that's always deserve to have more balls. He's

436
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: not a number one receiver, but he's got to improve

437
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: that receiver corps a lot. That mg D Darren McFadden

438
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Speaker 1: backfield is very intriguing. It could either it could go

439
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 1: one or two ways. It could be something that makes

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Speaker 1: them like a seven or eight win team, or it

441
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Speaker 1: could be something where we're laughing about it by October.

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Speaker 1: It's a very combustible situation there. You mark added the

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens as your big winner. Yeah, I think there's

444
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Speaker 1: you know, there's some wait and see to some degree,

445
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Speaker 1: but they went out and you know that offense last

446
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Speaker 1: season stuck in the mud. I feel like they they

447
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 1: had the Super Bowl win, they lost a lot of

448
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Speaker 1: talent on both sides the ball, but the offense especially

449
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: left Flacco kind of vulnerable the off The middle of

450
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Speaker 1: that offensive line had him on the run. He was

451
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Speaker 1: sacked in an ornament amount of times, second most in

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Speaker 1: the league. I think they've set up Flacco. Their goals

453
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Speaker 1: seem to be to set up Flacco for a better

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Speaker 1: season and to force him to not do what he

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Speaker 1: had to do last year when he was throwing fifty

456
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Speaker 1: five sixty pass attempts a game. You get Owen Daniels

457
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Speaker 1: in there. Now again, we have to see the guy

458
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Speaker 1: could be done. We don't know if you'll even make

459
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Speaker 1: the roster, but he's shown to be paired with Pitto,

460
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Speaker 1: that's an interesting couple of tight ends. They add Steve

461
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Speaker 1: Smith as kind of the possession guy they didn't have

462
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Speaker 1: last year, and they went out and they got Jeremy

463
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Speaker 1: Zuda at center, and their center is with General Grogkowski.

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Speaker 1: Last year was a big issue. That's three areas sort of.

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Speaker 1: You know, you add some talent, and you give Flacco

466
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Speaker 1: a chance to under I think I think under Kubiak

467
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Speaker 1: not be put in a situation where he's got to

468
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Speaker 1: do everything himself. The running game is still an issue, though,

469
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Speaker 1: they're still looking for running backs, and in their division

470
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Speaker 1: they watched last year's division champion get worse. I think

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Speaker 1: the Bengals had the worst off season of anyone in

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Speaker 1: that division, losing the coaches and losing some talent and

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Speaker 1: not really being too active in free agency. They almost

474
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Speaker 1: last your boy Andrew Hawkins in a way. They did

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Speaker 1: lose it. Well. The af C North got to be,

476
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Speaker 1: of all the divisions, the one that is just purely

477
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Speaker 1: up for grabs, and to be the team that based

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Speaker 1: on free agency. And I agree with you, Greg, people

479
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: put too much into free agency as an indicator of

480
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Speaker 1: whether a team will be good or bad. But the Bucks,

481
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Speaker 1: to me, did a lot of work here that could

482
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Speaker 1: make them maybe put them in the direction of being

483
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Speaker 1: this year's Chiefs team with a lot of talent that

484
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Speaker 1: now um is some corrective steering here, and getting Durrell

485
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Speaker 1: Reeves out of the picture was a gutsy move. Uh.

486
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Speaker 1: They brought in Vernon to replace him, which is a

487
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Speaker 1: nice fit at a much cheaper COSSI have Michael Johnson

488
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Speaker 1: who underperformed last year, but you put him um with

489
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Speaker 1: Gerald McCoy and there's a lot to get excited about.

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Speaker 1: I think Josh McCown is the one guy. You know,

491
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Speaker 1: how do you feel about him? Is he that type

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Speaker 1: of quarterback that can sustain what he did last year?

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Speaker 1: I don't. I really think with McCown number one, he's

494
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Speaker 1: not going to completely regress and become a disaster because

495
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Speaker 1: he's been in the league for a long time and

496
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Speaker 1: I think some of that experience translated last or. But

497
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Speaker 1: what the Mark Trustman factor and what he's able to

498
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Speaker 1: do with quarterbacks, We're gonna find out the difference when

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Speaker 1: you suddenly take him account and put him on a

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Speaker 1: completely different team. I think the week to week preparation

501
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Speaker 1: helped hm account become something he's never even been close

502
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Speaker 1: to in his past. Well, what's the Jeff Tedford factor?

503
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Speaker 1: He is the new offensive coordinator for the Buccaneers and

504
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Speaker 1: to me, he is one of the biggest wild cards

505
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Speaker 1: in the entire NFL. This year. He has not been

506
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Speaker 1: an NFL coach. He has been lauded as one of

507
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Speaker 1: the best quarterback gurus of the last twenty five years

508
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Speaker 1: in all of coaching, high school, college, and NFL. People

509
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Speaker 1: made a list of guys that coached up quarterbacks. Jeff

510
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Speaker 1: Tedford is near the top of that list. So I

511
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Speaker 1: have no idea what this guy is gonna be like

512
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Speaker 1: at the NFL. For all I know, he could be

513
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Speaker 1: the new Mark Trustman. He could be the guy sure

514
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Speaker 1: that has some solutions and really is a great quarterback whisper,

515
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Speaker 1: and they suddenly have a great offense because the good

516
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Speaker 1: thing Tedford has, he's stepping into a terrible spot in

517
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Speaker 1: terms of their offense was awful last year. So anything's

518
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Speaker 1: gonna look like an improvement. I like that you called

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Speaker 1: it the Jeff Tedford Factor. It's like a show that

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00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: would come after Temptation Island on Fox in two thousand two.

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Speaker 1: The Jeff Tedford Factor sounds like a good show, Dan,

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Speaker 1: one that you would probably log on yourself, doesn't It

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Speaker 1: doesn't have Eric Decker on I Yeah, I have that

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Speaker 1: on my DVR. Episode three of Nice Catch. Watched two episodes.

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Speaker 1: This is potential project. It's been downgraded the potential project.

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Speaker 1: It was a project that you said was going to

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Speaker 1: be completed I think a week or two ago. At

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Speaker 1: one point. You haven't seen the show. I don't blame you.

529
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Speaker 1: It always sounded a little bit like a suicide mission. Yeah,

530
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Speaker 1: and it's starts starting to feel that way, But I

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Speaker 1: wanted to give them one more episode, maybe to the

532
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Speaker 1: birth of their child, their baby girl, and see and

533
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Speaker 1: then you're out. Then you're on that round. See if

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Speaker 1: the show takes off at that point. But I'm a

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Speaker 1: little nervous about it. You know what. Jeff Tedford also

536
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: sounds like like a fictional print a bowl in a

537
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Speaker 1: high school show. Jeff, I mean, Jeff Tedford just doesn't

538
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Speaker 1: even sound like a real name, or or maybe a

539
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Speaker 1: businessman in office space, something like, Hey, Jeff Tedford, damn

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Speaker 1: glad to meet you. Um good Tedford riffing by everybody?

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Speaker 1: Mark you not so much. You didn't really run with

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Speaker 1: it like I thought you would. You're not really taking

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Speaker 1: the lessons from Arthur Joseph. He actually remember he had

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Speaker 1: that whole segment on Tedford riffing. Yeah, I must have. Uh,

545
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Speaker 1: all right, let's move to the nice Let's move to

546
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Speaker 1: the losers. I think the Carolina Panthers as a group,

547
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: we're all very disappointed and a lot of people are

548
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: wondering about their wide receiver situation. So why don't we

549
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: start there. The Panthers are going from a number two

550
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: seed and now it seems like they're gonna need to

551
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: hit on this draft or there's gonna be a lot

552
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: of doubts about whether they can back up what they

553
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Speaker 1: did last year and truly build on success. Dave Gettleman,

554
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Speaker 1: their general man Enagor had one of the best drafts

555
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: in the league last year. You can't do any better

556
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: with the first two picks than than star Lows Leiley

557
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:13,959
Speaker 1: your favorite guy, and Kan short uh So. He did

558
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: great last year. He's gonna have to do it again.

559
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: We also picked on on the Around the League site

560
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: the biggest holes to fill after free agency, and that's

561
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Speaker 1: at NFL dot Com. Backslash Rostasa and I picked the

562
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Speaker 1: wide receivers of the Panthers, which seemed obvious, but you

563
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: could have picked the Panthers cornerbacks. You could have picked

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Speaker 1: the Panthers left tackle. They don't have anyone at any

565
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: of these positions. If the season started today, They're starting

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Speaker 1: cornerbacks are probably Antoine Cason and Josh Norman. I don't

567
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:50,959
Speaker 1: know the opposite of Baltimore. It's like you have a

568
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Speaker 1: young quarterback there and they're taking weapons away from the guy,

569
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Speaker 1: and suddenly Cam Newton's not the guy that you want

570
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Speaker 1: to say you have to go do everything now. We're

571
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Speaker 1: not going to continue give you more and more help.

572
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Speaker 1: We're gonna take it away from you. And by the way,

573
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: four or five position groups have been depleted entirely. Good

574
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: luck with that. And not for nothing. Cam Newton, who's

575
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Speaker 1: coming off surgery to repair a chronically injured ankle, just

576
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: a lot of like black clouds over Carolina right now.

577
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Speaker 1: I mean, Gettleman has said and he has been one

578
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Speaker 1: of the more honest gms in terms of listen, guys,

579
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: we are in the muck right now. A year from now,

580
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: their their salary cap situations much better. He just didn't

581
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: want to keep them in that place. But this those fans,

582
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: that fan base needs to hang on tight because it

583
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: could be a long year. What a weird team if

584
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: you just look at them. Their front seven on defense

585
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: I think is the best in the league, and they

586
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Speaker 1: have five or six premier players there and then the

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Speaker 1: entire rest of the roster there's no premier players other

588
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Speaker 1: than Ryan Cleo and Cam Newton is just oh McNutt good.

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Speaker 1: You know a team is struggling when our lads, who

590
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: I use a lot for depth charts and it's a

591
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: great site, just starts throwing in random guys as starters

592
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: because they have no idea. They put in someone named

593
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Speaker 1: DeAndre Pressley as the starter. This is a guy who

594
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Speaker 1: has been waived four times in the last couple of

595
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: years and has barely ever played in there. Not even

596
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Speaker 1: a real person. DeAndre Presley's mother's ear ears just parked

597
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: up all she was listening to this stuff. Um, you know,

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00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: the Panthers are one team that was double digit win

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00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: team that made the playoffs. And how about it's called

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Speaker 1: a set up? Mark, Welcome to class. There's there's some

601
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: heat between you guys today. How about this? How about this,

602
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal, the Kansas City Chiefs, another team with double

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Speaker 1: digit wins. You said they didn't have a very good

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Speaker 1: free agency. They had a terrible free agency. Although I

605
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: feel like you're only going to me with this one

606
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: to get back at Mark that you guys have some

607
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,479
Speaker 1: sort of attention here. You're you're just not throwing it

608
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: to him. Well, you wrote it, so I thought that

609
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: probably made more sense. Our guy, Chris Chris Wesley did

610
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: the math that they lost six thousand snaps from starters

611
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: this offseason. Their best signing, most impactful signing was Advance Walker.

612
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: The best player they resigned so they weren't even bringing

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00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: back people was Hussain Abdullah, a special teamer. Essentially, they

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00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: lost tackle Brandon Albert, John Osimoa, Tyson Jackson, Dexter mccluster,

615
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: Kendrick Lewis, Jeff Schwartz. These guys aren't superstars, but they

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Speaker 1: were starters and you have to replace all of that.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, you still have some problems in

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00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: terms of wide receiver other positions that they haven't filled

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Speaker 1: from last year. I believe in Andy Reid, though I can.

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Speaker 1: I think that you know with him, with him at

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Speaker 1: the Helm, I think they'll be able to They know

622
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: what their rosters about, and I think the draft they'll

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00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: be able to plug some of these holes. And I

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Speaker 1: don't I loving the way their offense looked by the

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00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: end of last season. I don't. I'm not worried about

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00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: the Chiefs the way I'm worried about the Panthers. Yeah,

627
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: but except that everything broke well of them last year.

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Speaker 1: They had fantastically easy schedule where they played what a

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Speaker 1: backup or a third string quarterback five weeks in a

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00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 1: row or something like That's people are going to measure

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Speaker 1: this year's Chiefs based on what happened last year, and

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00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: I think they may be a better team with the

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00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: worst record. They feel like a team that's very much

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00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: in transition, not a team that's returning from a playoff

635
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: spot and is an established team. They're more like a

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00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: typical team that's go only going into year two of

637
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: a new coach and a new GM that have a

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00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: lot of players coming in and a lot of players

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Speaker 1: going out. Mark my friend, Yes, sir, why don't you

640
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: throw them out? There? A team that regressed here, you know,

641
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: the one that came to me is the Dallas Cowboys

642
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: because a Now, I understand that they couldn't go out

643
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: in hand to Marcus where the kind of money he

644
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: could have made on the open market, and they couldn't

645
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: even pay a salary. They had to let him go,

646
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: and that that's business. But you are saying goodbye to

647
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: uh arguably maybe one of the best defensive players in

648
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,479
Speaker 1: your in the history of your franchise. You also watched

649
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: Jason Hatcher walk out the door, and in return you

650
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: get Henry Milton, who is a quality player but coming

651
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,959
Speaker 1: off a major knee injury, so there's some question marks there.

652
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: You have Jeremy Mincey as a defensive lineman that you

653
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: signed the only other edition you have, and honestly probably

654
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: a bigger name than Mincy. Not for his accomplishments, though,

655
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: is Brandon Whedon, who if they have any anything at

656
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: the position, he won't be on the roster come opening day. Dallas,

657
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: for all the much ballyhooed nonsense about the fact that

658
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 1: they need to be on TV ten times a year,

659
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: great outfits, blah blah blah, I am tired. I am

660
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: tired of Dallas and Jerry Jones is under as much

661
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: pressure as the Panthers or anyone else to knock it

662
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: out of the park in the draft because this defense

663
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: got worse. They have a chance. The Cowboys have a

664
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: real chance to go in the tank if they don't

665
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: have a good draft. I agree with you. I mean,

666
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: they've been a team that's been sitting at five under

667
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 1: a year after year after year, and now it seems

668
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: like they've hit some real adversity. Potentially, I don't know

669
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: what's going to what direction that franchise is going. They're

670
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: not even a trendy pick anymore. Maybe that's good for them.

671
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. Another bad thing for them. It's offseason

672
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: Dynasty Week on NFL Network, and it was just a

673
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: reminder to everyone that that's the last time the Cowboys

674
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: were any good and Jerry Jones wasn't picking the players,

675
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: and since then they are essentially the Jaguars and the Browns.

676
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: That that is what the Cowboys have been. I mean,

677
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: they've been more in the mix, but they that's about

678
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: how many playoff wins. They've had one playoff win. But

679
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: America wants to continue to watch them seven Sunday or

680
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: Monday nights a year. Great quarterback, right. I also feel

681
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: like we talked about this all during the season, I

682
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: feel like on this podcast, but the Dallas Cowboys lover

683
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: hate them. They play in a lot of entertaining games

684
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: in those primetime mat and there's a difference between an

685
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 1: uninspiring eight and Nate which, yes, they've been on inspiring,

686
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: but you're right, three years in a row they're in

687
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: a Sunday night game that's sides the division. But are

688
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 1: they overmarketed and under delivering? Yes, that's what they are

689
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: at this point under Jerry Jones. And I'll throw out

690
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: a team that you know, this is the opposite almost

691
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: the opposite of the Dallas Cowboys. The Cowboys are always

692
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: in the spotlight, whether they earned it or not. The

693
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans to me are the flattest team in the

694
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: NFL right now. There's there's just no sizzle there right now.

695
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: And this offseason, to me, nothing was done that makes

696
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: me more excited too about the Titans, or or would

697
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: make me think the fan base is more excited Chris

698
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: Johnson that decided to let him go. I understand financially

699
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: that made some sense and he has been in regression statistically,

700
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: But now you know, you're asking a lot of Seawan

701
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: Green and you know, what are you really expecting out

702
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: of Dexter mccluster who they signed. Uh, they gave up

703
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: on Ketty Britt, which again I can't really disagree with.

704
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: It was the right time to do it. But who's

705
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: gonna fill that void as a guy that you know

706
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: once was a potential big time playmaker for them. Uh.

707
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: They also lost uh Altron Verner, who's a big loss

708
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: for him and now there's leaves a huge hole in

709
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: their secondary. So that's another team that's gonna need a

710
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: big draft just to kind of hope to have some

711
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: hope going into the bore you they but you were

712
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: you are bored by the Titans. I would say that's fair.

713
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: It's a fair point that they are teetering towards the

714
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: type of team that starts losing ticket. Did you just

715
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: try to use the word that begins with T like

716
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: that was just natural alliteration by the Tennessee Titans. Look,

717
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: they they're a team that people are going to renew

718
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: their season tickets. If this goes for another six and ten,

719
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: You're right there, Vanilla. There's nothing if if they go

720
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: back or doesn't look good. What if they go out

721
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: and add a Johnny Football type guy to the mix?

722
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: Is that a death nail? Does he never or we

723
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: never hear from again him again? Because it's an excitement vacuum.

724
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: That would be great. It would be better if he

725
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: went to the Jaguars than if he went there. That's

726
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: my ultimate fear. I've said that when I was on

727
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: the Damage Tex Show last month. My I love Johnny Football.

728
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: I'm excited about the Johnny Football era. If he ends

729
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: up in those stupid uniforms playing at ever Bank Stadium

730
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: and shot Khan is you know, waving a banner. I'm

731
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: just gonna be really disappointed. To be honest with you,

732
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: I want him to go somewhere. Tennessee is not a

733
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: lot better that I want him in Cleveland. Mark in Cleveland,

734
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: I'd sign up for that. In Tennessee would be interesting.

735
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: You could call him Johnny Nashville. I kind of like that.

736
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: You don't like that, you know, it would have made

737
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: them a lot more relevant had signed Golden tap a callback.

738
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: I know everyone who are big gold Center fans. That

739
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: was his big prediction at the start of free agency,

740
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: his sandwich gambit. It did not work out, though, sad,

741
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 1: very sad. Where are both the big gold Standard fans living?

742
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think they're actually stuck in the internet.

743
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 1: They don't have a physical location. Do you have more

744
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: followers from this podcast than from NFL or just from

745
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: your soccer muse? I got it. I got a ton

746
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: of them from you guys. Definitely. Um, I don't know.

747
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: I don't really have the analytics in front of here

748
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: right now. Let's get that up for the next pod, guys.

749
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 1: All right, So that's it for looking back at free

750
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: agency as we now really in earnest, we're looking at

751
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: the draft. That's it can we put free agency in

752
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: the rearview mirror. I'll ask you, boss, we have squeezed

753
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: every last drop out of free agency possible. It's time

754
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: to move for sure. Because we could still talk about

755
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers a little bit more. We joked, but this,

756
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: this article we talked about was people were loving it.

757
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 1: People started a lot of conversations, a lot of buzz

758
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: around the country about winners and losers where that it's true,

759
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: it's a true fact. Before we go, you know, we

760
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 1: called West at what is that place called Cooters Hucks

761
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: It is not hucka Poo's Island. It's Tybee Island. It

762
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: actually would be awesome if it was. If they renamed

763
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 1: the island after it would be an exception. It spelled

764
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: multiple ways on their website, which I like that it's mysterious.

765
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: And West did send a short video of via his

766
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: iPhone last night of the bar in full bloom on

767
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: Easter Sunday night. Um some bad I guess reggae type

768
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: music playing a bunch of silver haired men and women

769
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: hanging out just enjoying the town and the and and

770
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: the bar. It just seemed like a really nice place

771
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: to make make it sound like a hangout for elves,

772
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: silver haired men and women. There were there were some

773
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: younger people there. I believe there are five different spellings,

774
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: which is actually hard to imagine that that's possible. But

775
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: there are five different combinations here when you google. That's

776
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: for s c O purposes. They have an SCO manager

777
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: that's ahead of the curb. Hey, so we're thinking West

778
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: is supposed to be on a plane right now, at

779
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: least that's what the ticket that was sent to via

780
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: email sending him back to California from Tybee Island. But

781
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: just you know, us to make sure, why don't we

782
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: once again reach out to huck A Poo's and see,

783
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: maybe you know, if West is there, maybe he missed

784
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: his flight and maybe you didn't. We'll just make sure,

785
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 1: just a little check in on him. We care about

786
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: the guy, Goldsender. Can you get hucka Poos on the line. Yeah,

787
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: let me tell him up right now? There we go, Hey,

788
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: doing is Chris westling there? Oh he's not. This is

789
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: Dan Hands with the Around the League podcast. We were

790
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: just seeing if West had a good time when he

791
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: was visiting. I'm sure, I'm sure. Okay, good, Well, we

792
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: just want to thank you guys for taking care of

793
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: him while he was home alright later. Sounds like a a

794
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: good guy with business to handle. It sounds like a

795
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: guy that wasn't really interested maybe in getting into the

796
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: nuance of West's visit home, but still delivered the pertinent information.

797
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: Or he's such a big fan of the podcast that

798
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: he was star struck and he didn't know what to say,

799
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, Wow, that's really Dan

800
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 1: Hansis on the line. He I don't know. I feel

801
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: like he threw down that even pretty hard, like I'm

802
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: sick of you using my bar as a prop for

803
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: your stupid podcast. Felt that way to me. I got there.

804
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: We were giving them a lot of you know, publicity.

805
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone can just drive over. You know,

806
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 1: most people listening and can't just drive over from Australia

807
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: to go check out hucka Poos. You know what I'm saying.

808
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: You can take a boat, though. I think someone needs

809
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: to tweet at us with a Huckapoos picture if they

810
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 1: get out there. Though. Yeah, there was the Austrian fellow

811
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: that went all the way to uh Georgia to go

812
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: to Huck a Poos based on the podcast. That's a

813
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: great that's a great idea, Zack. If anyone that has

814
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: ever listened to the podcast ever goes to huck A Poos,

815
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: please send us your picture and we can collect those.

816
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: I think we can put that on the board. Call

817
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: it like the heavenly ground of the a TL podcast.

818
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: If you ever get there, you make sure you documented

819
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: it is. It's pretty much our Jerusalem. That's that's good though.

820
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: That's good. That means West is on his way back

821
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: and he will be sitting in the chair directly to

822
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: my right on Wednesday, when back with another edition of

823
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: your Run the Leaf podcast. But until then, this is

824
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: damn hands is signing off for the Sizzler, the Boss,

825
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: and the gold Standard behind the glass. See Bac Tash,

826
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: Bac Tash, let me start it over. That's ridiculous.