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Speaker 3: Emily Abadi here welcoming you back to a new year,

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Speaker 3: season twelve of Hurdle, kicking things off with the annual

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Speaker 3: Turning the Page series. Now, if you happen to be

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Speaker 2: You to all things Turning the Page.

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Speaker 3: Hurdle is a wellness focused podcast where I, Emily a Body,

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Speaker 3: Connect with everyone from your favorite athletes to top experts

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Speaker 1: the time that I got to the starting line. So

441
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Speaker 1: I felt really healthy on race day, but somewhere around

442
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Speaker 1: thirteen to sixteen, I was like, oh no, this is

443
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Speaker 1: not good, Like I think New York's of course you

444
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445
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Speaker 1: and I feel like I was kind of just pulling

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Speaker 1: it together. But so that was a hard one because

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Speaker 1: in my head, I was like what do I do here?

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Speaker 1: Do I quit or do I finish? You know, like

449
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Speaker 1: this is really not going very well. My quads were

450
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Speaker 1: on fire, like I just felt like I couldn't get

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Speaker 1: into a good rhythm, like but it was also just

452
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Speaker 1: like you know, hitting the marathon wall, I guess, but

453
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Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I'm gonna just keep running until I

454
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Speaker 1: can't run anymore, you know. And I made it to

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Speaker 1: the finish line, and I was really proud that I

456
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Speaker 1: did because also it was my son's eighth birthday, so

457
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Speaker 1: I didn't want to like quit on his birthday, you know. So,

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Speaker 1: But but yeah, that was that was a tough one

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Speaker 3: about the running lessons, kind of transcending to the rest

523
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Speaker 3: of life, right this space of asking yourself what do

524
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525
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Speaker 2: That was a hard day, Like no matter how you

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Speaker 2: slice it.

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Speaker 3: I think I read yesterday that that was actually the

529
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Speaker 3: hottest New York City marathon on records. So to show

530
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Speaker 3: up that day and do what you did regardless, like what, like,

531
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Speaker 3: kudos to you, you know, mm.

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Speaker 1: Hmm, I don't know. It's just you just don't quit,

533
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Speaker 1: you know, Like I knew I wasn't going to hit

534
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Speaker 1: my a gole or beagle or seagull, but the but

535
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: when all those like flew out the window, it's like,

536
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm healthy, Like I hurts a lot, but

537
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Speaker 1: I can finish, you know. So I'm proud that I

538
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Speaker 1: was able to pull something out to just keep going.

539
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Speaker 3: But what do you tell the person who does get

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Speaker 3: to a point where they realize that they do need

541
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Speaker 3: to quit, Like that choice becomes one that is.

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Speaker 2: Not theirs to make.

543
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 3: Maybe it's made for them by in the case of

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Speaker 3: running your body or just other extenuating circumstances.

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Speaker 2: How does someone navigate because we don't.

546
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 3: Try to fail, right, We try with a certain goal

547
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 3: in mind, and sometimes we have to deviate from the plan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's tough too, especially when you

549
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: feel like that choice isn't yours, you know. But there

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Speaker 1: are times like whenever, like in a race, there are

551
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Speaker 1: so many times I want to quit, but I ask myself,

552
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Speaker 1: like can I keep going? Like is this is this physical?

553
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: Like is this like above me? And if it's something

554
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hurt myself more or cause my body harm

555
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: or you know, from heat or from hypothermia, or if

556
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Speaker 1: like something hurts that you know is like not right.

557
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: Like it's okay to be sore and it's pay for

558
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: your legs to feel heavy. That's normal to work through.

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Speaker 1: But when something's not right, it's just it's just not safe,

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Speaker 1: you know. So but it's it's tough to like think

561
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Speaker 1: through that in the in the moment and figure it out.

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Speaker 1: But you know, it's just like there's just sometimes it's

563
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Speaker 1: not your day, you know, And sometimes it's smarter actually

564
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Speaker 1: to you know, to listen to your body or to

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Speaker 1: people around you and not push it through because you'll

566
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Speaker 1: have another day to fight, you know. But yeah, it's uh,

567
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Speaker 1: I don't know, it gets hard right before you level up.

568
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Speaker 1: I guess. So those days that are the hardest, you know,

569
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Speaker 1: just think you're that much closer. You're playing the boss

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Speaker 1: that level, and you'rre about once you beat that boss,

571
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Speaker 1: you're gonna get to the next level.

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Speaker 2: So we love a level up. We love a level up.

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Speaker 3: What would you say is a word that you are

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Speaker 3: bringing with you into twenty twenty three?

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Speaker 4: Oh man, this is so funny that you asked this

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Speaker 4: because over so, my son Tommy, who's eight years old,

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Speaker 4: he's been really into making his own like March Madness brackets,

578
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Speaker 4: but sometimes he does it with like animals or like

579
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Speaker 4: letters or like you wonder where he gets it from.

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Speaker 1: I think it's from all our Oreo Madness challenge.

581
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Speaker 2: I was literally just gonna say he gets it from you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he gets it honestly. So over Thanksgiving he

583
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Speaker 1: decided that he was going to do like a word madness.

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Speaker 1: So he put one hundred and twenty eight words into

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Speaker 1: this like tournament style, and so at the Thanksgiving table,

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Speaker 1: I like brought up. I was like, hey, you know, everyone,

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Speaker 1: Thomas has been doing like a March Madness just with

588
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Speaker 1: like words, and so everyone got curious and so he

589
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Speaker 1: read the top sixteen. So everyone at the family picked

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Speaker 1: their word and we went through this like to see

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Speaker 1: what it was. But the word that I picked was buzzsaw,

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Speaker 1: So of.

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Speaker 2: Course, of course you did.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna use that one. I think I'm

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Speaker 1: going to use that one. But it was really funny

596
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: because like someone picked music, someone picked Oh, there was

597
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Speaker 1: like quagmire was one of the words. Mom was a

598
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Speaker 1: word universe, so it was like a really big wide range,

599
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Speaker 1: like some sort of crocodile I'd never heard of, like

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Speaker 1: a big name for a crocodile. Was so but it

601
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Speaker 1: was really funny. But buzzsaw actually was number two. The

602
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: winning word was imagination, which they loved that. Yeah, that

603
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: was a really good one.

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Speaker 2: So, uh, what does what does buzzsaw mean to you?

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Speaker 3: Kira?

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00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: Just like taking your goals and going for it, you know,

607
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: like don't let anything stand in your path, just like

608
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Speaker 1: a buzzsaw, you just cut right through and like you

609
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Speaker 1: get to where you need to go, you know. So

610
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Speaker 1: it's you know, don't let anything stand in your way,

611
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Speaker 1: just go right on through and reach your goals.

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Speaker 3: When you think about the past three sixty five, Who

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Speaker 3: would you say was one of the individuals that you

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Speaker 3: were most grateful for their presence over this year.

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Speaker 1: I think if I want to continue sharing a bed

616
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Speaker 1: with this person, I think I'm gonna have to say

617
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Speaker 1: my husband. All series though, he is like he's my rock,

618
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Speaker 1: you know, he keeps it really fun. He knows me

619
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Speaker 1: better than anyone in this world, and he can just

620
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: tell like what I need and with like running, like

621
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Speaker 1: I need it to be really fun, Like I need

622
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Speaker 1: it to be my fun thing. So he keeps it

623
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Speaker 1: light and he comes to, you know, all the races

624
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Speaker 1: that he can, and he's super busy too, but he's

625
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: definitely been my number one supporter. And he has a

626
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: big like water bottle that he wrote super Fan on

627
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Speaker 1: it because he's just he's a super fan and it's

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Speaker 1: kind of fun just to have, you know, someone support

629
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Speaker 1: you in that way. So that's I feel really lucky

630
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Speaker 1: for him.

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Speaker 3: For some reason, I'm like in my head thinking about

632
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Speaker 3: the people that like might struggle with answering that question,

633
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Speaker 3: and like, how beautiful is it that you have like

634
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Speaker 3: such a special and compassionate partner for anyone who may

635
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Speaker 3: be approaching twenty twenty three and maybe navigating being at

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Speaker 3: like the crux of a relationship, or just kind of

637
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Speaker 3: struggling to find their footing in some way.

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Speaker 2: Could you offer a tip about showing up for yourself

639
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Speaker 2: during some of your hard times.

640
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Speaker 1: Well, I think that is so spun on because like

641
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: I found running when it was for myself. Like he's

642
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: he's now like a super super fan, But like when

643
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: I he was deployed for a really long time when

644
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: my kids were zero in one, so he was gone

645
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: for by the time my daughter was two, he was

646
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: gone for over a year. So like I put running

647
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Speaker 1: in my life at that time because I needed some

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Speaker 1: thing to make me feel good about myself. And when

649
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Speaker 1: he came back, it was kind of uncomfortable, honestly, because

650
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: I had put running in my life for me and

651
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: I needed to figure out a way to make it

652
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: like a Wii for the family. But I think it's

653
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: okay to do something for yourself and feel good about

654
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: yourself and then find a community around that and make

655
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: sure it's people that are going to be building you up.

656
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Speaker 1: But it's you know, running is easy because I feel

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Speaker 1: like joining a running group or getting a coach, or

658
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: just finding that support system in that way, like maybe

659
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily a family member, like none of my

660
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: My mom is like my biggest cheerleader, but no one

661
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: in my family run. No one knew anything about that.

662
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: So I formed that support group like outside with friends

663
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: or with running buddies or with coaches. So I think,

664
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: like finding that person for you, like I feel very

665
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: fortunate that I share a bed with that person, but

666
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be that person. I think you

667
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: can find that community around you wherever you are.

668
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this makes me think about the joyless

669
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 3: so that I've like rest referenced on the show so

670
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: many times, and not to say that like when I

671
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 3: have gone through things in my personal life, really emotional

672
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 3: moments that I've always been able to like look at

673
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 3: my joy list and be like, I'm depressed. But if

674
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 3: I go outside and read a book right now in

675
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 3: the sunshine, like I'm going to feel great. Like that

676
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 3: doesn't always work, but at the very least, like having

677
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 3: a list of things that you know have in the

678
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 3: past brought you a sense of contentment and fulfillment and

679
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 3: joy can be a step in the right direction to

680
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 3: shifting your perspective or your mood on a given day

681
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 3: where things feel especially hard.

682
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's when you need it the most.

683
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to run every single day,

684
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: but it's on those days that I force myself and

685
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: I get myself at the door. Then I'm most proud

686
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: that I did it because I knew how hard it

687
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: was and it was really interesting. I had a conversation

688
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: recently with one of the hydro coaches, Aisha, and she

689
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: said that whenever she has a day she doesn't want

690
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,719
Speaker 1: to run, she looks back because she thinks like running

691
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: is a constant, Like it's the same every single day.

692
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: So what is it about me that I don't want

693
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: to run today? And kind of analyzing it from that

694
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: instead of like, oh running feels hard or it's this.

695
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: You know, running is always the same exact thing. So

696
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: what is it about you? Like, do you feel like overwhelmed,

697
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: do you feel stressed? Is there a lot going on?

698
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: And kind of answering that and then figuring out how

699
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: to put running into your life. I think I had

700
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: never looked at it that way, but I think that

701
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: was kind of a just a unique way to think

702
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: about it.

703
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 3: Definitely, Well, I'm so happy that we were gonna we

704
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 3: were able to catch up today. Before I let you go,

705
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 3: we're going to go through a flash question round.

706
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 2: Then I have a final question. Are you ready born?

707
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,439
Speaker 2: Ready Born? Ready? Okay? Favorite movie of the year.

708
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: Oh man, Oh this is such a good question. I

709
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: haven't watched a lot of movies lately. We've got a

710
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: kick with all these like old school movies. Okay, So

711
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: I'm going to go with the big because we went

712
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: to New York, we saw Fao Schwartz, and we came

713
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: home and watched the movie with the kids. That's probably

714
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: the most recent movie I've seen. So kind of biased,

715
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 1: but yeah, that was good.

716
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: Favorite song of the year on your running playlist.

717
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: Oh that's so good. I had at the beginning of

718
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: the year at Houston. I had like four or five

719
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: songs on like repeat that I listened to all the time.

720
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: Let's see if I.

721
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: Live look at the room.

722
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: My gosh, I got to pick it up. I have

723
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: like the worst memory.

724
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 3: I have the song nice for What by Drake on

725
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 3: my marathon playlist five times, and whenever it comes on,

726
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 3: it's like my power song, like I have to like

727
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 3: get my act together.

728
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I love Okay, So my power song this

729
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: year was the Edge of Midnight by Miley Cyrus.

730
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: Wow.

731
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: That was like my power song this year because it's

732
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: like a like a Fleetwood Mac like remix song. Oh man,

733
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 1: that was good. So that was that was my twenty

734
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 1: twenty two song.

735
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 3: Miley Cyrus for the win. Do you have most memorable

736
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 3: meal of the year?

737
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: Okay, meal the year, which, unfortunately for my family I

738
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 1: made probably once a week, which eating that once a week,

739
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: that's like fifty times this year, just chicken and rice

740
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: all the time. My family is like, oh great, Mom

741
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: made chicken and rice again. But that's like you're serving

742
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: with a vegetable. Yeah, I'll put a vegetable in there.

743
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: The vegetable changes. Like if my kids are like, you know,

744
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: if they win, it's art chokes. That's like our favorite meal,

745
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: art chokes, chicken and rice. Oh I love that for you?

746
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 3: Okay. Can you reflect on perhaps a best piece of

747
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 3: advice that you were offered this year?

748
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 4: Hmmm.

749
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: I think one of the most eye opening conversations I had.

750
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,959
Speaker 1: I was at the MIT Sloan Sports Conference this year

751
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: and one of my fellow presenters came up to me

752
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: afterwards and was like, Kira, you're happy and I was

753
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: like yeah, and he's like, no, you're like really happy.

754
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: And I was like yeah, and he's like, it's clear

755
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 1: that you have structure your life like your your goals

756
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: make you happy. So you've been successful, like you're not

757
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: chasing goals, you're chasing happiness. And I thought that was

758
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: I'd never looked at it that way, but it really

759
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 1: like opened my eyes that It's like when you're chasing

760
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: things that excite you and you're working hard to do

761
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: things that make you happy, you find even more success

762
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: than because I felt like in my Round one, I

763
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 1: was always like if I succeed, then I'll be happy.

764
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: And I just in that moment, I was like, oh

765
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: my gosh, I had it backwards for so long. I'm happy,

766
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: so I'm succeeding. And so I think just that just

767
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: really like rock my world a little bit kind of

768
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: looking at it like that. So that is going to be, Yeah,

769
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: chase goals that excite you.

770
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 3: What would you say the most exciting thing will be

771
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 3: that Kira will accomplish in twenty twenty three.

772
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: Oh man, Kia's going to go after it again. Kira

773
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: is going to go after it again. So I'm definitely

774
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: going to do a spring marathon. I'm not quite sure

775
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: yet which one, and I'm going to step myself up.

776
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: The Olympic Trials are in twenty twenty four, so I'm

777
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: going to get in some really great training to go

778
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: into that race as fit as possible. I currently am

779
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: not an Olympian, and I would like to be an Olympian.

780
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: So I think twenty twenty three is going to be

781
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: a really good setup for the twenty four trials and

782
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: how I'm going to go after it again, Man, going

783
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: to try to win some races and have some fun.

784
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 3: Last, but not least, favorite piece of gear that you

785
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 3: used in twenty twenty two?

786
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: Oh Man, Should I pick like my most frequent or

787
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: like because I have like a number of So I

788
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: think my favorite gear in races is either like my

789
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: Nike Alpha Fly shoes for marathony or my sunglasses, the

790
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: Nike Victory Elite sunglasses. When you wear sunglasses and you

791
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 1: race like, your race photos are like infinitely better because

792
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: they can't tell how far your soul is being crushed

793
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: in that moment. But then also it keeps all the

794
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: stuff out of your eyes, and you know how to swint,

795
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of like really good reasons to

796
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: wear sunglasses. But I think this was like the year

797
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: of sunglasses for me. So I think then also, fanny pack.

798
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: I was huge into fanny packs in twenty twenty two,

799
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: and I don't regret that at all. But I have

800
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: an awesome Nike one. I've worn it with leather pants

801
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: like out, and then I've worn it with like running clothes.

802
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: I feel like it's so versatile. But yeah, fanny pack

803
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: for the wind too.

804
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 3: Whoever has Kira for a Secret Santa, you can buy

805
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 3: her like an upscale fanny pack.

806
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. Those exist. I thought you just like, no, Yeah,

807
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: they exist.

808
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna have me. I'm on it. I'm gonna head

809
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: up Tony. I'm gonna let him know.

810
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, let him know. That's a really good idea. Yeah,

811
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: I need I need to kind of give them some hints.

812
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 2: I want to open the floor to you.

813
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 3: Is there anything else that you want to make sure

814
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 3: you say about twenty twenty two before we officially turn

815
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 3: the page.

816
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's a that's a big question. You are

817
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: awesome twenty twenty two. And let's even like raise a

818
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 1: roof even harder. In twenty twenty three, I guess it's

819
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just been fun seeing our world

820
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: get back from COVID and go back to some new

821
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: normal with everything that we learned in those like two

822
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: years and everything. And I think it's gonna be really

823
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: fun to see where everything goes. Like, I don't know,

824
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 1: I just feel like the best is yet to come,

825
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: and I feel that way for like everybody. So I

826
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: feel really optimistic and excited going into twenty twenty three

827
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: and just ready to see what the future holds. How

828
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: about you, that's a big question. I'm gonna throw it

829
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: right back to you and put you on the spot.

830
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 3: What do I want to say to twenty twenty two

831
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 3: as I turn the page into twenty twenty three. Yeah,

832
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 3: I would say that I will not start twenty twenty

833
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 3: three navigating some of the like emotional hurdles that I

834
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 3: start to twenty twenty two with. I feel very satisfied

835
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 3: and content, like putting what I hope will be like

836
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 3: a chapter of depression behind me, and like really optimistic

837
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 3: going into twenty twenty three.

838
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 2: My word I asked you about, like your word?

839
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 3: My word not as good as buzzsaw, but is simply great.

840
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 3: My family motto has always been do good.

841
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: And what I.

842
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 3: Have realized over the last few weeks is, in a

843
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 3: few different aspects of my life, I've been so good

844
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 3: with good that I haven't chased great, and I'm ready

845
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 3: to be great. I'm ready to step into what great

846
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 3: could look like and get comfortable with the uncomfortable that

847
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 3: I know will come with great.

848
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: I think that's awesome because I think, like, when you

849
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: go for great, it almost doesn't matter if you hit

850
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: great or not. It's going for the great, which is

851
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: what is great? Am I talking in circles a little bit?

852
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: I think I did, but like following you, yeah, I

853
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: think that that is like, it's that's awesome, and just

854
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: striving for more and figuring out how to like just

855
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 1: do more for yourself, I think is I think it's great.

856
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: That's a great answer. It's a great answer. You know.

857
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 3: It made me think real quick about and I'm sure

858
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 3: maybe you felt this way in Houston. But it's like

859
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 3: when I be cute, and I never thought that I

860
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 3: would be cute. I wasn't even going after great, but

861
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 3: I found great by like chasing the best version of

862
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 3: myself on that day, and there is no better feeling

863
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 3: than surprising yourself with the greatness of your potential.

864
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I got the chills all over, got the chills.

865
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: That's perfect.

866
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, final question here a piece of advice you

867
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 3: know how we do it here on hurdle that you

868
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 3: would offer yourself at the beginning of twenty twenty two.

869
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 3: Being that you are now twenty twenty three, kere, so,

870
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 3: knowing what you know now, what piece of advice would

871
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: you offer yourself back at the beginning of last year?

872
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: Keep doing you You're doing great, you know. And it's

873
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: funny because recently I've been thinking like about like I

874
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe this is going to get a little weird,

875
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: but like just trusting in your past in future self,

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00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: you know, because I think when you overanalyze what's happened

877
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: in the past, it can lead towards like regret. And

878
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: if you're like overanalyzing what your future self is going

879
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: to go through, there's worry. So I think just trusting

880
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: in your past and future self and just knowing that

881
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: like that was a different Emily or that was a

882
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: different Kira, and they were doing the best with what

883
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 1: they had at the time for whatever reason, Like I've

884
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: been going through that mentality recently, and it's just it

885
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: puts me at peace because I'm like, I'm going to

886
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: do the best I can in any situation, and past

887
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: Kira did that and future here is going to do that.

888
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: So I don't know, this maybe just a little bit

889
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: out there, but that's something I've just been thinking about

890
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 1: lately that it's like it just brings me at peace,

891
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: just knowing like I'm doing the best I can. I

892
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: did in the past, I did in the future. But yeah,

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00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: that's a weird way to wrap up. I don't know

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00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: if any of that.

895
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Speaker 2: I would expect nothing less than you to.

896
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: You trust your past and future self. You know, we're

897
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: all on the same team here. That's the same.

898
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: Team, but you're a tomato.

899
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 3: Always a joy sitting down with you. I can't think

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00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 3: of a better way to start twenty twenty three. If

901
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 3: they don't yet, how do the hurdlers keep up with you?

902
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 3: How do they follow along with you? Give us your deats?

903
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, look outside, I maybe running by their house right now.

904
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: I run a lot, but I'm on Instagram just Kira

905
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: a dematto, and then I'm on Strava, which is really fun.

906
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: If you like jokes, you should definitely follow me on

907
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: Strava because every day instead of just the normal run title,

908
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: I put a joke. So that's that's fun. And then

909
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: if you do carry your pigeons, just send them my house.

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00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: I can communicate that way and SMA signals. Maybe that's

911
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: what I'll work on in twenty twenty three is I'll

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00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: learn how to read smoke signals. So I'm really open

913
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: to communicating. You just let me know what works best

914
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: for you. Uh, you can be honest.

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00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 3: I saw that you and I follow the same pun

916
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 3: account on Twitter.

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00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: So are you ripping some of those puns for your Strava? Oh?

918
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely, but I turn them a little bit, you know,

919
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: so they'll be like, they'll say something, I'm like, oh,

920
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: I can turn that into like a running joke. So

921
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: we'll say they're inspired. Some of them are, I guess directly,

922
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: but I get sourceded. I got inspiration from a lot

923
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: of different a lot of different sources. So oh yeah,

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00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: that's a good one too. I just Lexa tell me

925
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: a joke, and then she'll tell a joke, and sometimes

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00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: that stuals up, so mission I'm not that funny on

927
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: my own. I will put that out there. I need

928
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: a lot of help.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: I'm over at Hurdle Podcast at emily A Badi another

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Speaker 3: hurdle conquered.

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Speaker 2: Catch you guys, next time

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Speaker 4: To