1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news for. 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: Our television and radio audiences. I'm happy to welcome now 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: Brian Nickel, the CEO of Chipotle, who, of course has 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 2: just announced that the fuller outlook over at Chipotle would 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: be boosted for the year because there is more growth 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: there than at other fast casual arrivals in this space. Here, Brian, 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: what's going differently for you than perhaps a lot of 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: the industry. What is driving people into the stores? 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, great to be with you guys. 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 4: And look, you know, I think the purpose of Chipotle 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 4: has always been food with integrity, using classic culinary techniques 12 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 4: so that we give people delicious, nutritious food. And the 13 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 4: other thing that I think we've just done even better 14 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 4: of late is bring that. 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 3: Experience to people in a fast way. 16 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 4: So, you know, one of the things that also makes 17 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 4: our brand really special is the customization that you can 18 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 4: get with all these greating greens d and so we've 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 4: been working hard to ensure we're staffed, we're trained, we're 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 4: deployed so that our team members can get people exactly 21 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,279 Speaker 4: the burritover bole experience that they want at a pretty 22 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 4: meaningful speed, so that people can get on with their day. 23 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 4: So I think that's what you're seeing is the power 24 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 4: of great food, great culinary, great people, and now also 25 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: some great operations around throughput. 26 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: Can you talk to us a little bit, Brian about 27 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: the general state of the consumer. I think this stands 28 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: out as a very strong success story, but also in 29 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: the midst of a lot of skepticism with respect to 30 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: how much the consumer can continue to spend and the 31 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: general health of the consumer. What do you see from 32 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: your consumer? Is it Chipolle specific or do you generally 33 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: see a very strong consumer out there. 34 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, when we do the research on a broad 35 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 4: scale basis, we definitely see that consumers are feeling a 36 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 4: little bit of pressure on. 37 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: The economic side of things. 38 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 4: Right, Gas prices are elevated, They've been dealing with inflation 39 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 4: for a while. Fortunately, the wage market has been strong 40 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 4: and on employment has been really low. So the good 41 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 4: news is jobs are there, wages are there, but they 42 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 4: are feeling pinched on, you know, kind of their budgets. 43 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 3: As it relates specifically to Chipotle. 44 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 4: Fortunately for us, the feedback we get is the value 45 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 4: proposition has never been stronger. So if they're being more 46 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 4: choiceful in how they're going to choose their ten or 47 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 4: fifteen dollars on a meal away from home. 48 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 3: What we continue to hear. 49 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 4: Is we're one of the great solutions for that type 50 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 4: of outlay of cash. And so, you know, that's why 51 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 4: we're so dedicated to having great ingredients, you know, great 52 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 4: culinary and then obviously giving people the customization that they 53 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 4: want so they get the food at the speed that 54 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 4: they want to. So I think that's that is the 55 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 4: thing that's separating us right now is our ability to 56 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 4: provide this great culinary, great ingredients at what are pretty 57 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 4: reasonable prices. 58 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: It's interesting because some of your products are so popular 59 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: that not just the earnings today are grabbing a lot 60 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: of attention. It's this idea of chicken and the second 61 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 2: shortages really being faced. You know, we had reported that 62 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: you told staff or recommended rather that they stop eating 63 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: the chicken. Given the popularity of some of your chicken 64 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: items on your menu. How has this been perceived by employees? 65 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: There has been some pushback on the idea of itself. 66 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 2: And do you have to change anything in terms of 67 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: the way you handle the product. 68 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 3: No. I think this is a story that's looking for 69 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 3: a headline. 70 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 4: You know what we What actually happened is the supply 71 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 4: got really tight. We asked all our employees, including myself, 72 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 4: to pitch in for a week to maybe try something 73 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 4: else on our menu. 74 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 3: The good news is we're through that pinch. There's no 75 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: challenges on our chicken supply. 76 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 4: Actually, our supply teams that are finab you know, a 77 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:52,839 Speaker 4: fabulous job of securing supply to what has been really 78 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 4: tremendous demands. So look, the good news is our employees 79 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 4: were happy to pitch in. I guess there were may 80 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 4: be some employees that didn't want to pitch in on 81 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 4: this one, but in the end, we came together, did 82 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 4: what we needed to do, and you know, we're going 83 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 4: to continue to focus on getting people great experiences with 84 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 4: our product and that includes chicken. 85 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting because you guys have been very 86 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: fast to pivot around a lot of things here. I'm 87 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: really curious around other potential ways you react to the consumer. 88 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 2: You had mentioned the general states so far, but do 89 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: you think that the consumer would be vulnerable to any 90 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: future price hikes? Do you think that the price hikes 91 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 2: already have been put on products? Or as far as 92 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: you can go. 93 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 3: You know, look, I don't know the answer to that 94 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 3: for everybody. 95 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 4: The good news for Chipotle is we definitely believe we 96 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 4: still have some additional pricing power if we needed to 97 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 4: take pricing in the future. Our hope always is that 98 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 4: we can hold our pricing because we want to protect 99 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 4: our value proposition always, and I think, frankly, it's one 100 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 4: of our competitive advantages are really positions of strength. It's 101 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 4: just the strength of the brand and because of our 102 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 4: unique commitment to ingredients and the speed at which we 103 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 4: can get people these customized meals. So you know, look, 104 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 4: I definitely think the consumer is feeling pressure. 105 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: All right. 106 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 4: We've had inflation for the last couple of years. In 107 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 4: some cases, things are up twenty thirty percent from where 108 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 4: they were just not that long ago. And now here 109 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 4: we are, hopefully with inflation starting to moderate, but still 110 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 4: things are well elevated from where they were a couple 111 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 4: of years ago. And I think that's what positions us 112 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 4: so uniquely in this space is at the end of 113 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 4: the day, you can still get a really meaningful bowl 114 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 4: or buredo from Chipotle for you know, around ten bucks. 115 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 3: If you choose not to have chips and glock or 116 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: drink and stuff. 117 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 4: So you know, look, I would suggest everybody look hard 118 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,559 Speaker 4: at their value proposition and sure people feel great about 119 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 4: what they're getting for what they pay, and if that 120 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 4: plays out, you'll be rewarded with business. 121 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: I think that's what we're seeing happen at Chipotle. 122 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit more about those embedded costs 123 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: and just a general sort of embedded inflationary costs and 124 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: how you're managing through that inflation. I know that Chipolle 125 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: has several automation projects underway. Maybe talk to us about 126 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: where your automation priorities are and how much that might 127 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: offset the margin pressures from steady or inflation. 128 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, so thanks for asking about this. 129 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 4: You know, obviously, we set out to figure out what 130 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 4: are ways we can be more productive in the restaurants, 131 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 4: and specifically, we started with asking our employees what are 132 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 4: the what are the pinch points, what are the things 133 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 4: that are most challenging to do. And one of those 134 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 4: things that came up was cutting coreing and scooping. 135 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 3: Avocados every morning to make our guacamole. And so we've. 136 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 4: Created a new robotic or cobotic device that will cut 137 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 4: core and scoop the avocado we still have to hand 138 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 4: mash it, and we still have to you know, add 139 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 4: the cilantro lime, helipaiers and onions and stuff. But you know, 140 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 4: it gets rid of some of the harder parts of 141 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 4: making guacamole every morning, and those are That's. 142 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 3: Just one example of many other things we're looking at. 143 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 4: We got feedback that frying the chips is a difficult task, 144 00:06:58,680 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 4: so we. 145 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 3: Experimented with a a robotic arm to fry the chips. 146 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 4: That one hasn't worked out, so we're going back to 147 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 4: the drawing boards. But the good news is the learning 148 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 4: from a robotic arm for frank chips informed what we 149 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 4: did on designing what we call autocato. And then other 150 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 4: places that we're looking to build innovation is on our 151 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 4: digital makeline. Is their way for us to help our 152 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 4: employees build bulls and burritos. 153 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: On that line, so that with the one or two. 154 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 4: People working on the line, they're capable of producing even 155 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 4: more brudos and bulls. To other things too, like AI 156 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 4: machine learning to help us in our rewards program, are 157 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 4: forecasting our supply chain. So I'm really optimistic about the 158 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 4: innovation that we've got coming down the pike. Obviously, we 159 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 4: have to take it through our stagecaight process, validated, and 160 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 4: sure that it really plays out the way we want. 161 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 4: But I think we're hunting in the right places that 162 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 4: will make the job better, protect the experience for our customer, 163 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 4: and provide no compromise on the culinary. 164 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting speaking of inflation. Curious about the 165 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: California twenty an our minimum wage for fast food workers. 166 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: Since this has happened here, Curious Brian about your view 167 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: on what else would be impacted with that rise in 168 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: minimum wage for workers here. How do you think about 169 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: how that fits into your broader cost picture and whether 170 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: you need to make changes elsewhere. 171 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, obviously we moved wages accordingly, and 172 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 4: then you know, I'm sure you're familiar with this, but 173 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 4: that creates compression for wages throughout the business, meeting managers 174 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 4: and apprentices and people that have more tenure at the 175 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 4: crew level. So we adjusted all those wages accordingly, and 176 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 4: we did take a price increase in California to offset 177 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 4: the wage inflation that we're dealing with, which is close 178 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 4: to twenty percent wage inflation. 179 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: And what I'm happy to say is, you know, we 180 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 3: didn't have to change anything else. You know, we're not 181 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 3: cutting corners on our food. 182 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 4: We're not cutting corners on portions, we're not cutting corners 183 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 4: on the. 184 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 3: Speed which provide our service. 185 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 4: You know, we're committed to giving people the Chipotle experience 186 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 4: they know and love, with the culinary that they know 187 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 4: and love. And you know, obviously we had to raise 188 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 4: prices a little bit, but you know the reality is 189 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 4: it's more expensive to do business in California, and you 190 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 4: know we adjust accordingly. 191 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 2: Brian, we thank you so much for your time. We 192 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: should say Chippote Shares actually today hitting a record off 193 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: the heels of those results as well. That is Brian Nicol, 194 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: the CEO of Chipotle. Mexican Girl