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Speaker 1: Welcome back, happy our listeners, And before we begin today,

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Speaker 1: we've got some really exciting news, not just because I

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Speaker 1: soon be the premiere for Katie's season, and I can't

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Speaker 1: I mean, Katherine, I feel like we just wrapped Matt

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Speaker 1: season and so buckle up because we're going to be

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Speaker 1: on another wild adventure very soon. Katherine, welcome back. How

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Speaker 1: have you been this last couple of weeks or these

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Speaker 1: past couple days when the last time we spoke last week,

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Speaker 1: it's been it's been good. Crazy ahead Isaiah's third birthday party,

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Speaker 1: he wanted a hippo party. So it's been a lot,

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Speaker 1: but it's been exciting and I'm excited to continue to

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Speaker 1: Where did Isaiah's love for hippos come from. I've always

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Speaker 1: always been into hippos. I have no idea, but when

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Speaker 1: I think it was, like a couple of months ago

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Speaker 1: he was talking about We were like, okay, well what

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Speaker 1: kind of party do you want? And he said, he doesn't,

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Speaker 1: he's trying to work on words, but he said hippo

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Speaker 1: potty and and I think I talked about it so often.

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Speaker 1: I talked about it every night, dreaming by your hippop party,

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Speaker 1: dream bout your hipo party. Now, Like when it came time,

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Speaker 1: these little hippo figurines in this bucket and just walks

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Speaker 1: looks like a little hippo. Oh, I think it's perfect.

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Speaker 1: He chose a really good animal. And I'm please tell me, like,

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Speaker 1: did Seun or anyone show up in a hippo costume? No,

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Speaker 1: thank goodness. I was on theme. Actually it was really funny.

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Speaker 1: I was wearing this dress to the party and my

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Speaker 1: don't take this the wrong way. I thought you were

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Speaker 1: very on theme. You kind of look like a hippo,

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Speaker 1: like a hippo. But isn't a hippo just gray? Well

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Speaker 1: I had like gray and then like purple and blue

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Speaker 1: Hippo when you were younger? Okay, we have that at

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Speaker 1: hippos until they get a little bit of got it?

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Speaker 1: Got it? At what age do you do you have

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Speaker 1: what did you do for a swamp thing? Like like

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Speaker 1: So very soon we will be having Sarah Herron on

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Speaker 1: I know. Caitlin Bristow recently got engaged, the Twins got engaged,

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Speaker 1: So without further ado, we are going to be bringing

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Speaker 1: on Sarah Herron right now. Okay, Sarah, welcome to Bachelor

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour. This is obviously your first time with us,

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Speaker 1: and I want to first say that obviously people are listening.

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Speaker 1: They can't always view this video footage, but you look lovely.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I know, it's so exciting to be here

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Speaker 1: and meet you Becca and Catherine. It's been like forever,

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Speaker 1: see the ring. Oh she's a beauty. Pretty Is that

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Speaker 1: she genuinely wants just the best for you and your partner.

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Speaker 1: Obviously I didn't have a partner when I went through.

427
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 1: But oh, I'm so happy for you. That makes me

428
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: feel good. You're you're in the best hands. Yes, I know,

429
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 1: I totally forgot before getting on this call that you

430
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 1: worked with her. Um, I'm very excited. Just like you said,

431
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: she responds to every email like within minutes. I truly

432
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: do feel like she's on my team. She's got my

433
00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: best interest at heart. Because I did consult with a

434
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 1: few different ideas or fertility specialists, and didn't really get

435
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: that same feeling from all the other doctors. I kind

436
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: of just felt like I was just another patient, like

437
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: just move them on through, right. Um, So a doctor,

438
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: adiam so excited and nervous and don't know what to expect.

439
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: So how did your ignitary will go? I mean it

440
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: was it was as smooth as can be, I think. Um,

441
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: I it was interesting because I and I don't want

442
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: to make this all about me, because this podcast is

443
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: about you. But any questions, honestly call me. I'll give

444
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: you my number after this and we can chat. Um.

445
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: Where are you at in the process, because um, and

446
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: I've shared with our listeners before it it takes a

447
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: little bit. You know, you have to give yourself the

448
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: injections for several weeks. You have to you know, monitor

449
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: your body and do your blood work and get all

450
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: the tests every couple days. So where are you at

451
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: you've started the injections? I'm assuming not I start Wednesday, okay. Um.

452
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: And then because we live in Colorado, we decided just

453
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: to go be at her office in San Ramon for

454
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: the whole time, which obviously is kind of interrupts life.

455
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: A little bit, but we just wanted to like be

456
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: there so that we're in person with doctor Amy getting

457
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 1: her care rather than trying to like translate communication between

458
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: my obi and her. So we'll be there for the

459
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: full time. I haven't started the medications. I'm a little

460
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: nervous simply because I was doing some hormone treatment before

461
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: and just like you know, I also struggle with some

462
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: mental health that I'm on medications for, and so there's

463
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: just a little bit of like hesitation. I'm like, is

464
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: it going to be really intense for me? Emotionally, mentally

465
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: physically obviously, but I think I'm just like, what's this

466
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: going to do to my brain? So I'm a little

467
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: nervous about, you know, all that, But I feel like

468
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: a really great support system. I'm very fortunate to have

469
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 1: support around me. You know. I have an amazing partner,

470
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: and I go to therapy and so I feel prepared

471
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: and it's just gonna yeah, I don't know, I'm very

472
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: nervous and excited. When you're dealing with infertility, you know,

473
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: it really is such a roller coaster, and it's like

474
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: every time you start to go up and then you

475
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: like kind of inevitably crash and you just kind of

476
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: get used to that cycle, unfortunately. So I'm very hopeful.

477
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: I'm really optimistic, and I'm also trying to stay realistic

478
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: because i know it's a journey, and you know, obviously

479
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: I hope for the best on the first tribe, But

480
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: like I said, I feel in very good hands with

481
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: doctor Amy that if we have to go several rounds,

482
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 1: she'll get us there and you know, we'll get our

483
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: baby eventually. So it sounds so ready. I love that.

484
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: I love that you have everything in place. You're trying

485
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: to put in your mental health, not boundaries, but you're

486
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: trying to figure out every facet that is going to

487
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 1: affect you. I think that's awesome that you guys are

488
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: going to get to stay there and it's not interrupting.

489
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: I feel like that's just going to be a really

490
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: cool chapter for you and Dylan to be there being

491
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: super intentional and putting positive energy into that process. So

492
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm very hopeful for you guys. Yeah. Yeah, And it

493
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 1: sounds like you're in the right headspace. As Catherine said,

494
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: it's like it seems like you have your ducks in

495
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: a row and just take it day by day. I mean,

496
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: any sort of medication, especially when it comes to like hormones.

497
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: You know, we as women kind of know the ups

498
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: and the downs and and just take it day by

499
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: day and luckily you'll be there so she can adjust.

500
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: And sounds like you have a great support to some

501
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm telling you you're gonna love that area though, Like I,

502
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: I'll send you some good recommendations. I'll send you some

503
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: good areas to hike, some good dog parks. It'll just

504
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: it'll be your little home away from home. And thank

505
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: you please us all that because it'll be will bleaks

506
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I've never been there, I have no

507
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: idea what to expect, so it send to all their recommendations. Well,

508
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 1: it sounds like everything in general, just the way you

509
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: live your life is so adventurous, which I find incredible.

510
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: I wish I could match that a little bit more away.

511
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm always like I wish I could be more gung

512
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: ho at times and just go with the flow and

513
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: sing us to whatever. But do you have any advice

514
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: for our listeners who might potentially be intimidated on any

515
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: sort of adventure, whether it's you know, a journey with

516
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: their fertility, whether it's like actual adventure out in the outdoors.

517
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: What's some advice that you could give to our listeners.

518
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: I'm learn I'm like learning a hardcore right now, because

519
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: I do think in the beginning, when I was getting

520
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: into some of the more extreme outdoor things, there was

521
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: a lot of like the talk in the back of

522
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: my head that was like, you have to be strong,

523
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: you have to do this, push push push, And lately

524
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I don't have to do anything. What's

525
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: most important when you're starting any type of adventure, whether

526
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: you're repelling off a ninety foot building or going into

527
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: an IVF journey, is to make sure you have a

528
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: safe environment. And that means like, are you surrounded by

529
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: people you trust and love and feel safe with emotionally

530
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: and physically. If your body feels unsafe, if your mind

531
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: feels unsafe, then I would say, like, take a step back,

532
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: collect yourself. And it might not always be the right

533
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: time or the right place to do it, but you

534
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: can come back. And so that might sound a little

535
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: like esoteric, but really and truly, I recently went repelling,

536
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,719
Speaker 1: which I've done a hundred times, and for some reason,

537
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: on that day, I didn't feel safe and emotionally like

538
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: I was like, I have a lot of anxiety lately.

539
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: I know I've done this a million times, I know

540
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: how to be safe, I've taken safety training, and I

541
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: still was just like, I gotta walk home, I gotta

542
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: walk out, like I just don't feel safe. And that

543
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: was probably the bravest thing I've actually ever done. And

544
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: it was really worried that like Dylan and the group

545
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: would think I was a woos And Dylan was like,

546
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you, because advocating for yourself when

547
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: you go into it an adventure is the safest thing

548
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: you can do. So I would I would just say, like,

549
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: make sure you feel emotionally and physically safe at all times.

550
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 1: In terms of like actually adventuring, I would say, like,

551
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: do your research, know your surroundings. It even like if

552
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: you're going hiking. Honestly, I think a lot of women

553
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: underestimate bears and mountain lions. And I'm not saying they're

554
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: a huge threat, but if you're in an area, make

555
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: sure you carry bear spread. Like there's just common sense.

556
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: So I think, no matter what you're getting into, you

557
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: should do your research. You should embark on everything in

558
00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: the safest way possible. Oh yeah, this right now, the

559
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: adventure Wisdom. I loved that everything it's dangerous, don't do it. No,

560
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,719
Speaker 1: it's not a good and encouraging Yeah, I don't. I

561
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: hope it's yeah, I hope it's not scary. I just um,

562
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: I have, like lately, I have been dealing with a

563
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: lot of anxiety, which has been making giving me pause

564
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: for like really just evaluating my surroundings before I go

565
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: into it rather than just like leaping off the ledge

566
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: because I want to be strong. Yeah, so that's where

567
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: I'm coming. It's all worth hearing. So I think those

568
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: are great recommendations for people to consider when they're doing that.

569
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: I mean realist, they're they're real, the real things that

570
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: you should be thinking about. And I didn't think about bearrows,

571
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: mountain lions, or that you should be mentally prepared. So friends,

572
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: where you are, I you know here it's a real

573
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: issue for us. Another recommendation, just quickly, I would say,

574
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: is join like a Facebook group for women. Um, there's

575
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: a great one called Women who Hike, and then they

576
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: have different chapters for like every state pretty much, and

577
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: there's thousands of women in these groups. And so you

578
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: can find someone, you can ask for recommendations, find someone

579
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: to go on a hike with. Whatever. These groups are great.

580
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: And then also similar to she Lift, I run an

581
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: organization called Tense Without Gents, and we host retreats for

582
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: women looking to build confidence in the back country. So

583
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: we go backpacking, stand up paddle boarding, and it's also

584
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: just a great way to like meet new women, try

585
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: a new experience that's a little bit more challenging than

586
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: you know, your average hike. So who came up with

587
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: that name? Because I'm of success, I know, honestly someone

588
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: on Instagram because we started it and I was like,

589
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: we're hosting this women's backpacking trip, like what should we

590
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: call it? And someone was like, Tense without Jen, But

591
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: you are you are? Didn't you work for seventy two

592
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: and Sanni? Isn't that right? Yeah? I remember that because

593
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: every time it's seventy two and Sonny, I'm like, I

594
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: think Sarah works for that agency because I was advertising

595
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: your accounting exact right, So our director, oh, our director,

596
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't put a pash to you to come

597
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: up with pisa. One of our producer says that she

598
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: wants to go, and I'm like, hell yeah, sign me up,

599
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 1: you guys. Sit. There's this great one here in Colorado, Katherine.

600
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: You can hike from Aspen to Crested Butte. Have you

601
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: guys done that hike? No, but we were looking at

602
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: property and crest Abute. I love Cristabut. Are you serious?

603
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: I know you're always there. So so I live close

604
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: to Aspen, which as the crow flies. I don't know

605
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: if you guys know that term, but it's like in

606
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: the air. We're only eleven miles apart, which is oh

607
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: blows my mind because to drive about three hour drive

608
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 1: because if you go around yeahs, so there is eleven miles.

609
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Uh huh so there. I mean, if people

610
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: are listening to this and don't wite me t the

611
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: hiking trail is eleven miles. So you can leave from

612
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: Aspen in the morning and get to Crestibute a few

613
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: hours later. Oh wow, So you could do it, and

614
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: that's pretty intense. Otherwise, you can hike over, stay the

615
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: night and Crested Bute hike back or vice versa. Or

616
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: there are shuttle services, so you can hike one way

617
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: and then hire a shuttle service to drive you back

618
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: to the town you started from. So we do a

619
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: backpacking trip. It's three nights, so we extend it a

620
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: little bit and we hike like six miles the first day,

621
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: camp in the woods, hike another three or four miles,

622
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: and then finish the day, finished the two Oh I

623
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: want to do that. Yeah, we're all in and it's

624
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: great because it's like it's like you're backpacking and you're

625
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: in the rugged wilderness. But then you finished end up

626
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: and asked you to get dressed up. Oh god, Yeah,

627
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: that's cool. That's that's incredible. Back some good stuff in

628
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: your backpack carrying her. I know, I'm just thinking as

629
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: you're as you say, like, oh, but then you can

630
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: dress up a night, I'm like, what are we packing

631
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Speaker 1: in these basting them? The standards aren't as hides and

632
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: what we ended InCrest you. Then you can just take

633
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: a sun dress and exactly, you know, so beautiful, Sarah.

634
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Speaker 1: Where is one of your favorite places that you've ever

635
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: traveled to? Oh? I mean, I think without a doot,

636
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 1: I would say the Dolomites in northern Italy. It's just

637
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: the most magical region. Um it's so it's it's not

638
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: if you're not familiar with Italy. It's not exactly what

639
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: you would expect because it's very mountaine and just so beautiful.

640
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: So we've done some like biking and hiking up there,

641
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: um and it looks like a Disney very tailbook. It's

642
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: just the most incredible place and best food Dolomites. Yeah,

643
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 1: put that on my list. Yeah. I'm getting so many

644
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: good inspo spots from everyone that we have on here,

645
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: so I just need to make like a little notebook

646
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: and list them all out. One thing that I loved

647
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: aboute one of your most more recent Instagram posts is

648
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: you basically said, you know, don't quote me, but the

649
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: context was you said life doesn't always go in a

650
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: particular order. You know. I'm sure you had one expectation

651
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: for going to you know, maybe potentially doing the show

652
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: or whatever it might be. And so we've obviously seen

653
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: some of your past relationships play out on the screen,

654
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: but it's also incredible to see you now so happy

655
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 1: in such a solid, loving relationship. Obviously, you know, wedding

656
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 1: planning I'm sure is going to be happening very soon

657
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: if it hasn't already. So can you give our listeners

658
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 1: any advice who might feel like they're on any sort

659
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 1: of time frame in their life. Yeah, what I meant

660
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: by that is, you know, my girlfriends and I kind

661
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: of have this joke my core best group of friends

662
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: from middle school. It's like none of us are married,

663
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: and we're like, are we the late bloomers? Like what's

664
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: wrong with us? And the answer is nothing, you know,

665
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 1: like everyone goes at their own pace. And it definitely

666
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: took me a long time. I think I had to

667
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: put in a lot of self work in order to

668
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: get to the relationship that I have, and so I

669
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: had to carve out time to do that. And if

670
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 1: that meant a couple extra years before you know, getting engaged,

671
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: and that's what that meant. But also, like Dylan and I,

672
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: we know we're best friends, we know we want to

673
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: do this life together, and so we started talking about

674
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: having kids before we even started talking about marriage. And

675
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: I know everyone has a different opinion about marriage, but

676
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: to us, we're like, we know we're going to be

677
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: together and marriage is sort of just like the formality,

678
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: and so you know, I think it's okay there. I

679
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: get a lot of questions on Instagram from people who

680
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: are like, why baby before marriage, and it's just surprising

681
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 1: to me that there's, you know, still so much belief

682
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: that it has to be in order because I think,

683
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: you know, we live in new times and you don't

684
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: have to be as traditional as we used to be.

685
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 1: Of course, if that's your value, then one, that's fine,

686
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: but also if it's not, that's okay. So I think

687
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: that's all I meant is like, there is no time frame.

688
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: We have people like doctor Amy now who can freeze

689
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: our heads. You know, you can do life at your

690
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: own pace. So Naomi Campbell just had a baby, her

691
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: first baby at fifty Naomie Campbell. Oh really, I didn't

692
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: know that. Yeah, I don't know. She even has a

693
00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: partner too, So do what you do. Seriously. I love

694
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: that you say that because I think even from being

695
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: in this bachelor world, like you know, you go on

696
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: the show and the end goal is to find a partner,

697
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: get engaged to all the things, and that's incredible, you know,

698
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: if that's your life path. And I think, especially with

699
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: social media being so prevalent, you always hear people's comments

700
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: and opinions of like, oh, well you should be doing

701
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: this first, or you didn't do this, But you have

702
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: to go back and do that before you can do

703
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: X Y Z, and it's like you're just inundated with

704
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: people's opinions so often that I think it's easy for

705
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: people to say things and see things a certain way.

706
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: So I love that you say, you know, if that's

707
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: not your path, if marriage first isn't your life path,

708
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 1: if maybe kids are or something else's like, that's okay.

709
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: Everyone lives their own life, their own truth, their own way,

710
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: and I think we all just need to embrace that

711
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: and accept it more and talk about it more, which

712
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: is thank you for coming on and sharing that with us,

713
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: because I think it's really important for everyone, but especially

714
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: our young female listeners to hear to know, you know,

715
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: just because one of your friends got engaged or got

716
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: married and you know, has a family and has this

717
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: picture that you see doesn't necessarily make it right for

718
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: you in that moment in time. And so to just

719
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 1: embrace your own path and your own journey, I think

720
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: that's great. And also, like I would just say, like

721
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: it would be it would have been great if you know,

722
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 1: maybe I was able to have kids a little younger

723
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: before I lost all my eggs, But you know, at

724
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 1: the same time, I'm super grateful for having the time

725
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: that I did to go to Italy and have some

726
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: of these life experiences, and so I truly do believe

727
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: everything happens for a reason and um, and just to reiterate, like,

728
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 1: people have different values and so if one thing is

729
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: important to you, then that's fine, and if it's it's not,

730
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: that's also fine. I think some people just also take

731
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: certain experiences or context away from them being people, and

732
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: they're just talking about this context and not understanding people

733
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: that you're talking to are people, and you have to

734
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: put those together and have empathy or sympathy or support

735
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: or encouragement or motivation together as the things. So not

736
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: just like oh well that should be X, Y and z,

737
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: and on paper that looks good to you, but it

738
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: doesn't feel right. So so we've obviously talked about your adventure,

739
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: how you got engaged, your next journey. This next journey

740
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: with IVF will be, like you said, one of the

741
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: most important life changing big ones, and we're so excited

742
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: and hopeful for you. But beyond that, then, have you

743
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: guys talked about any wedding plans? Do you have an

744
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: idea of what you want it to look like? Is

745
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: it going to be in Colorado is going to be destination.

746
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: We've talked a little bit about it, and we're kind

747
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: of all across the board, to be honest, like we're like, oh,

748
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: you know, something small and in our own town would

749
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: be great, and then we're like, hey, let's go to Mexico.

750
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: But all we do know is we want a long engagement.

751
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: And I was just I actually just shared this on

752
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 1: my stories last night. You know, there is a lot

753
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: on our plate right now. We just bought a piece

754
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: of property, we're trying to build a house. We're also

755
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: going through IVF and it's just a lot, and there's

756
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: no reason to rush any of it. And I want

757
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: to be able to give enough time to each one

758
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: of these chapters of life, because I think they are

759
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: They're going to be so impactful. We're gonna remember them

760
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: for our whole lives, and so I don't really want

761
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 1: to overlap them. I want each one to have its

762
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: time and space and to be present for each chapter.

763
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: So I'm here for a long engagement. I don't really care. Honestly,

764
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: I love that. And you know, I mean you said

765
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: you guys are best friends. You know you want to

766
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: do this life together, and so if there's no rush,

767
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: then do you and really soak in and enjoy those

768
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 1: chapters because life life goes by pretty dang fast. Yeah,

769
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: and then next week I'll be like, hello, whatever, live

770
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: in the moment. Yeah, whatever's best for the two of

771
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 1: you is all that matters at this point in time.

772
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: M question has Dylan? I ask a lot of people this, um,

773
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: just because I'm curious, did Dylan ever watch the show?

774
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: Or has he gone back and like watched episodes of you?

775
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: And he's like, who is this woman? Like what has

776
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: he seen any any of the seasons that you were on? No? Um,

777
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: So remember last summer when they re ran the Oh yes,

778
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: so we got to come on and do a little

779
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: like where are they now type zoom with Chris and

780
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: so Dylan was on that and I'm like, how the

781
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: heck do you get to an appearance on this franchise

782
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: and you've never watched it? But um, no, he hasn't.

783
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: And he's watched seasons with me now, like Becca, he

784
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: watched your season with me, And you know, he likes

785
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: to have his little commentary from the other room when

786
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: I'm watching, but he does not want to see my stuff,

787
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: like He's like, I didn't need to see you with

788
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 1: another guy whatever, gets all kind of weird about it. Um. So,

789
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: you know, obviously sometimes I try and push stuff. I'm like,

790
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: look at my ex boyfriend. No, Sean, don't worry like Robert.

791
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: Grandma was like looking at him. Oh yeah, that's a

792
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: good one. Sorry. Sorry yeah. Oh and I didn't mean

793
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: no offense to Sean. I don't know. I know, of course,

794
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about. I know what you mean.

795
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: But I'm like, okay, maybe I shouldn't comment on Robert

796
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: Groom either. Yeah, so I do kind of like try

797
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: and push stuff at him. Everyone's millings like I don't

798
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: want to see that. I don't want to see that.

799
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: But that's totally fair. I'm not trying to watch Emily

800
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: season again either. So yeah, she was such a great Bachelor.

801
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,439
Speaker 1: It's just it's so interesting though, too, because you said

802
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,439
Speaker 1: earlier you feel ancient, and and I've said that even

803
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: because you know, obviously this is a bachelor focused podcast.

804
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: So when when I was with Rachel and we were

805
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: recapping the current seasons, I'm like, I feel like a

806
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: grandma now compared to some of these these contestants, like

807
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: male or female. It's like it's hard for you to relate,

808
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 1: and especially like once you're in it and then out

809
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 1: of it, it's hard to like it kind of loses

810
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: its luster or like the magic a little bit when

811
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: you when you've lived it, you've been through everything, you

812
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 1: see it behind the scenes everything, and so I get

813
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: when you say it's it's there's this weird disconnect of

814
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: watching it once you're off the show, especially like because

815
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm four years removed now too, so I totally understand

816
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: the uh, the difference in oh man, I don't know,

817
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 1: we're great grandma. Like the other day, um Katie shared

818
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: our engagement on her stories, which was so nice, but

819
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I I'm very too old

820
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: for you to know who I am, and so that

821
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: was like really cool that now it's like I'm in

822
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: this generation of like I get star struck by the

823
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: newercast and you know, but it's it's just crazy, like

824
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know anyone from probably like Becca,

825
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: I don't think I've met anyone from like your season

826
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: or on, and it's just interesting. I was looking back

827
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: last night at photos of all the friends I've made

828
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: through this franchise from seasons before mine even and it's

829
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: just like the way I describe it is, literally it

830
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: makes my heart ache with how deep some of these

831
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 1: friendships are. And you know, we all get it when

832
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: we go through the experience because it is a once

833
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: in a lifetime experience that no one else can really understand.

834
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: And the friendships you form are just so so so

835
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: deep in such a quick time frame. And I'm just

836
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: so grateful even though I don't know the new people.

837
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, my older friends are great. You know, if

838
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 1: I ever see some of these new people in the street,

839
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: I'll be like, Hi, I'm a fan. I don't know

840
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: who I am. Who are you still close with either

841
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: from sean season or from anyone that you met when

842
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: you did Paradise. A lot of people actually like very

843
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: I'm very close. I talked to Leslie frequently, Daniella from

844
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: our season. I'm probably going to forget people, so I

845
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: feel bad, But you know, other seasons Paradise, Gosh, Amanda,

846
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 1: Stanton Carle and I were like this in Paradise. Jade Tanner, Ashley,

847
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Speaker 1: you know Ashley. She's been texting with me about fertility

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Speaker 1: and in my engagement, which is really really sweet of hers, Ashley,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people. I'm super grateful to have all

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Speaker 1: of them as friends. Yeah, that's what I always say.

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Speaker 1: Even if you don't find love in a partner from

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Speaker 1: the show, you still find it with your friends. And

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00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: that's really like that. It makes it an all worthwhile.

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Speaker 1: So we spend more time with the girls anyway. So true,

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Speaker 1: so true. Um, okay, Sarah, before we let you go,

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Speaker 1: we have a game that we want to play. But

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Speaker 1: one more thing before we get into that. I just

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Speaker 1: want I want everyone to not only go and look

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Speaker 1: at you and your incredible page, but also she Lifts,

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Speaker 1: so let us know, or I guess, let all of

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Speaker 1: our listeners know where they can find you. Yes, so

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Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram. It's just my full name, Sarah Herron,

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Speaker 1: and she Lift is she Lift Grahams. And then I

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Speaker 1: don't have an account for Tense without Gents, but if

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Speaker 1: you're looking to get involved with Tense without Gents, just

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Speaker 1: visit it online. The url is Tense without Gents dot com.

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Speaker 1: All right, awesome, everyone check it out. I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you I'm signing it up for testabo gens

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Speaker 1: and I don't know if I'll if I'll be able to,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm not like super scrap happy like outdoors camping,

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Speaker 1: but I can hang for a little bit, and I

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Speaker 1: just to be with like great empowering strong women is

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Speaker 1: like the ultimate goal. So I can't wait to check

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Speaker 1: it out at the point. Yes, and it'll be fun

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Speaker 1: to be with people like you, so with just like

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Speaker 1: the same like mindedness, So I cannot wait to check

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Speaker 1: it out. Okay. So, like I said, we always love

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Speaker 1: to play games with our guests, So we're going to

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Speaker 1: play our little own bachelorette party game with you. So, Katherine,

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Speaker 1: you want to explain it? Yeah, So when you get married,

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00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: you really get to know someone on deeper levels. So

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Speaker 1: we're gonna ask some questions and you to tell us

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Speaker 1: whether it'll be the bride you or the groom Dylan. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: So who is more adventurous? Dylan? Who asked for the

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Speaker 1: first date? Me? Oh, where'd you guys go? Okay? So

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Speaker 1: it was right after a she lift retreat and we

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Speaker 1: went to the coffee shop. He asked to take me

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Speaker 1: to lunch. We went to the coffee shop and my

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Speaker 1: little sister was with me, and so I made her

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Speaker 1: sit at our table and I did the room and

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Speaker 1: it was just sweet but m and then I kissed

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Speaker 1: him at the end of the date, which was probably

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00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: like a little fast, but he was He was like,

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Speaker 1: that was fast, and I was like, I come from

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Speaker 1: the Bachelor. We moved through. Get on board, baby. Who

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00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 1: is less likely to ask for directions when you're lost? Dylan?

897
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: He's a navigator who hugs the sheets. Um me, I

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00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: like roll up like a burrito and Dylan like blaze naked. Basically,

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Speaker 1: who is funnier? Uh, that's a good question. I would

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00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: say Dylan's more like unintentionally funny. I laugh with him,

901
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: get at him. Who was more likely to say I'm

902
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,720
Speaker 1: sorry first? Dylan. Oh that's good. That's a good goalie.

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00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: Who is more spontaneous? Dylan? Who is more on time? Me,

904
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm very prompt actual Who brought up marriage first? Me? Yes,

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Speaker 1: very early on the first kiss. That was the second

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Speaker 1: day you were manifesting. If this doesn't happen, we have

907
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Speaker 1: to move on. Um No, you were, you were manifesting

908
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: early on and look at you now? Um okay. Last

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Speaker 1: one who will cry first when you guys tie the

910
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Speaker 1: knot me? Like when he proposed in my mind, like

911
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: leading up to it, obviously, like I was like, I

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00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: wonder if I'll cry when Dylan proposes. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I will, Like, you know, like we're sentimental people, but

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Speaker 1: I just don't think i'll cry. And then as soon

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Speaker 1: as he started talking, I was like I couldn't look

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Speaker 1: at him. I was like, it's like you have to,

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Speaker 1: and then I just started like making this crazy hyena

918
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Speaker 1: crying down breathe you know. So yeah, I'll definitely be

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Speaker 1: the first part. Well, I cannot wait to see where

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Speaker 1: life takes the both of you. I mean, please stay

921
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Speaker 1: in touch through IVF and if you need anything or

922
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: any questions, don't hesitate to reach out to me. But

923
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Speaker 1: you have so much support behind you and we can't

924
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: wait to see your next couple chapters in life. This

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00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: is why I love doing the podcast. It's because I

926
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Speaker 1: get to meet people that I know haven't met, I

927
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Speaker 1: haven't been on the same season with, who just have

928
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Speaker 1: so many incredible life experiences and memories and advice. And

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Speaker 1: I mean, she's doing so much with this IVF, with

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Speaker 1: probably planning a wedding, whatever that might happen with she

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Speaker 1: lift and tents without gens and all that she's doing

932
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Speaker 1: with buying property. It's like she has a million things

933
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Speaker 1: going on. So I'm just so happy we had her

934
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 1: on today because I know she's probably leaving right now

935
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Speaker 1: this very second on her road trip. Now. She's really

936
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Speaker 1: she's always been very intelligent, and she's carried herself always

937
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: so well. Even though she said that she doesn't have

938
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Speaker 1: a ton of confidence, well, I always got the impression

939
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Speaker 1: she knew what she was doing. Just phenomenal what she's

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Speaker 1: able to do, and then now what she's able to

941
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Speaker 1: do in other girls lives. I think that's just so

942
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Speaker 1: cool to start something like that that empowers women and

943
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Speaker 1: girls and teaches them that they are capable of doing

944
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Speaker 1: a lot more. I think that'll change a lot of

945
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Speaker 1: people's minds about themselves and hopefully other people, just young

946
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Speaker 1: girls get to experience that because it changes your tra

947
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Speaker 1: directory in life and how you handle things. So I'm

948
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Speaker 1: excited for those girls. Yeah, yeah, she's I mean, it

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Speaker 1: sounds like she's just doing so many impactful things in

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Speaker 1: young girls lives, and I think that's absolutely incredible. We

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Speaker 1: need more, We need more people like Sarah Yes here

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Speaker 1: doing what she's doing. So thank you, Sarah and Catherine,

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Speaker 1: Thank you a again for joining me for another week.

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Speaker 1: I always love hanging out with you and to all

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Speaker 1: of our listeners, we love having you guys tune in

956
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: each and every week, so please keep writing to us

957
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: and letting us know your thoughts. You can find us

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00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: at Bachelor Happy Hour on Instagram and at Batch Happy

959
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: Hour on Facebook and Twitter. And as always, if you

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00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: never want to miss listening to us for all of

961
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: our upcoming episodes, please subscribe to our podcast. You can

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00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: do it on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, the Wondering App, or

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00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: wherever you are listening right now. Thanks guys, take care

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Speaker 1: of Thanks guys. Bye,