WEBVTT - Vincent Ogé: Privilege and Protest

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<v Speaker 1>How often have you heard a guy start a sentence

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<v Speaker 1>with I have a daughter when commenting on some societal

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<v Speaker 1>issues specific to girls and women. Empathy is easy when

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<v Speaker 1>an issue gets so close to you, when the privilege

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<v Speaker 1>of not having had to deal with a problem is

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<v Speaker 1>lost and the problem pops your personal bubble. I'm Eve

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Cooke and this is Unpopular a podcast about people

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<v Speaker 1>in history who didn't let the threat of persecution keep

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<v Speaker 1>them from speaking truth to power. Vincen o Ja Jean

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<v Speaker 1>or Vincent o j the Younger was born in Dondon

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<v Speaker 1>Parish in San Domains, North Province sometime around seventeen fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>Sandman was a French colony on the island of Hispaniola

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<v Speaker 1>from the mid seventeenth century to the early nineteenth century.

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<v Speaker 1>O Ja's father was a white man named Jacques o

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<v Speaker 1>j and his mother was a Mulatta named Angelique o s.

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<v Speaker 1>Mulatta was the word used to describe a girl or

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<v Speaker 1>woman who was of mixed race with one black parent

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<v Speaker 1>and one white parent. Vinson was named after his paternal uncle,

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<v Speaker 1>a merchant in the port city of Cape Francaie. French

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<v Speaker 1>people who colonized the island became planters, and brought in

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of thousands of enslaved Africans. The mixed race children

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<v Speaker 1>of the white planters and the enslaved women were freed

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<v Speaker 1>and set up as property owners, and a mixed race

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<v Speaker 1>class of property owners formed equal in wealth to white

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<v Speaker 1>folks into the seventeen sixties. The richest free planters of

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<v Speaker 1>color were basically treated like members of the colonial ruling class,

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<v Speaker 1>but the petit blanc, the white people who were merchants, artisans,

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<v Speaker 1>and the like, were less powerful and wealthy than the

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<v Speaker 1>white planters, and they were especially anti black and anti

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<v Speaker 1>free people of color and supportive of slavery. As free

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<v Speaker 1>people of color became a threat to colonists access to

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<v Speaker 1>land in capital, and their loyalty was questioned, race was

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<v Speaker 1>further weaponized and colonial authorities began enacting legislation that discriminated

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<v Speaker 1>against people of color. People of color were assigned racial

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<v Speaker 1>descriptions like mulattro libra or care to own libra, and

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<v Speaker 1>white people were given titles lexia and demoiselle, while free

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<v Speaker 1>people of colors were disparagingly called lenon, a term that

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<v Speaker 1>basically meant the so called By the seventeen seventies, colonists

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<v Speaker 1>had even began labeling freeborn people of color as affranci,

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<v Speaker 1>a pejorative that meant freedman or ex slave. Though the

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<v Speaker 1>affranci could own land and had some advantages over enslaved people,

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<v Speaker 1>they could not hold administrative positions or work as doctors

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<v Speaker 1>or lawyers. Still, they chose to align themselves with the

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<v Speaker 1>French over enslaved people in the colony and the hopes

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<v Speaker 1>of being accepted by the white colonists. They often upheld

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<v Speaker 1>the institution of slavery, as did O J, a choice

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<v Speaker 1>that complicates O J's and other wealthy people of color's

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<v Speaker 1>history of resistance to the restriction of black people's rights.

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<v Speaker 1>In effect, the human rights of free people of color

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<v Speaker 1>took precedent over those of enslaved black people and poor

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<v Speaker 1>white people. Free people of color had property and were taxpayers,

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<v Speaker 1>and so the issue of abolition of slavery took a

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<v Speaker 1>back seat to the issue of racism for many free

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<v Speaker 1>people of color. More radical revolutionaries, though, did press for

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<v Speaker 1>abolition anyway. By the seventeen eighties, there were far more

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<v Speaker 1>enslaved people than French colonists in sandolog and there were

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<v Speaker 1>as many free people of color as there were white people.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't Don't where o Jay was born acknowledged Sano Monk's

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<v Speaker 1>post seventeen seventy racial laws and authorities did attempt to

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<v Speaker 1>separate white people and free people of color through practices

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<v Speaker 1>like distancing people of color from their French family names. Still,

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<v Speaker 1>white people and people of color remained connected to a degree.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't Don't located in the mountains as well as the

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding areas like the nearby port city of Cape, France,

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<v Speaker 1>saw a lot of military preparations and personnel when o

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<v Speaker 1>Ja was growing up, Though local enslaved and freemen of

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<v Speaker 1>color were enrolled in military units, it is not clear

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<v Speaker 1>whether o j had military or militia experience in its

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<v Speaker 1>youth and young adulthood. Dumb Done was also the first

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<v Speaker 1>place in sand Monk where coffee was planted, and Oja's

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<v Speaker 1>family took advantage of a coffee boom in the area.

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<v Speaker 1>Ojay's family's wealth was linked to the coffee estate, but

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<v Speaker 1>his personal wealth was built after he spent time in Bordeaux,

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<v Speaker 1>France as an apprentice to a goldsmith. Returning to San

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<v Speaker 1>domin around seventeen seventy four or seventeen seventy five. He

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<v Speaker 1>brokered houses and apartments and capt Francie to wealthy white people.

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<v Speaker 1>He conducted business with merchants and saw Domint's major ports,

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<v Speaker 1>and he assumed the practices of the colonists by employing

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<v Speaker 1>a free Mulatta woman as a housekeeper, a job that

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<v Speaker 1>usually included sexual duties and purchasing enslaved Africans. Side note,

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<v Speaker 1>many free people of color and San Domant were slave owners.

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<v Speaker 1>In a seventeen eighty nine letter, o J said he

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<v Speaker 1>was worth more than three hundred and fifty thousand livres,

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<v Speaker 1>the currency of France. O J was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>wealthiest freemen of color in San Domont, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>of a high status within the colonies class of free

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<v Speaker 1>planters of color. His wealth did put him in closer

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<v Speaker 1>proximity to whiteness, as notaries did not identify him as

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<v Speaker 1>a man of color or require him to show his

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<v Speaker 1>freedom papers. Generally, wealthy families of color remained politically conservative

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<v Speaker 1>and under the radar. When the French Revolution broke out

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<v Speaker 1>in seventeen eighty nine, the loss of privilege afforded to

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<v Speaker 1>them by the colonial establishment was a high stake. Julian

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<v Speaker 1>Raymon a free man of color and wealthy indigo planter

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<v Speaker 1>and Saint Domin did move to France in the mid

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen eighties and challenged the French government to pass racial

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<v Speaker 1>reforms for wealthy freemen of color in Saint Domin, but

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<v Speaker 1>Ramon was an anomaly, and so has been. Saint o j.

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<v Speaker 1>O J left Saint Domint for France at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of seventeen eighty eight in the hopes of increasing his

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<v Speaker 1>assets after having to figure out a way to repay

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<v Speaker 1>a debt he had. Only some of his experiences in

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<v Speaker 1>France in the beginning of seventeen eighty nine are recorded.

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<v Speaker 1>It's known that he visited his sisters in Bordeaux and

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<v Speaker 1>that he partitioned the naval ministry in March to give

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<v Speaker 1>him more time to repay his creditors. But by September

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<v Speaker 1>of that year, after the start of the French Revolution,

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<v Speaker 1>oh J had joined a group that called itself Cologne

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<v Speaker 1>a Mary Kaye a k A. American Colonists. The group

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<v Speaker 1>published a pamphlet that called for the doing a way

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<v Speaker 1>of legal separations between white people and citizens of color

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<v Speaker 1>in the French colonies. The Cologne also published a Calle

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<v Speaker 1>do d'Or lance or List of Demands addressed to the

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<v Speaker 1>National Assembly. O Ja helped write both of these texts.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the reforms demanded in the list was for

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<v Speaker 1>people of color and white people to be treated equally,

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<v Speaker 1>so that quote the Creoles constitute a single group and

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<v Speaker 1>that they be regarded as a population of brothers. The

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<v Speaker 1>text also called for the representation of freemen of color

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<v Speaker 1>in the government and their right to education. In late September,

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<v Speaker 1>Julienne Ramon joined the Cologne as they fought to get

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<v Speaker 1>seats in the French National Assembly. They also pressured the

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<v Speaker 1>Colonists to grant wealthy freemen of color voting rights. They

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<v Speaker 1>had the support of the Societe des Amis de Nois,

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<v Speaker 1>or the Society of the Friends of Blacks, a group

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<v Speaker 1>of mostly white abolitionists. To be clear, their vision of

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<v Speaker 1>racial equality was not one as simple as black people

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<v Speaker 1>should be equal to white people. It was beholden to

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<v Speaker 1>maintaining the privileges of class and sex. Both Raymon and

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<v Speaker 1>o j enslaved people, and they argued that making wealthy

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<v Speaker 1>freemen of color political equals to white people would strengthen

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<v Speaker 1>the system of slavery and solidified their loyalty to France.

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<v Speaker 1>O J envisioned himself as a member of the colonial

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<v Speaker 1>elite and was pretty self aggrandizing. He even began to

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<v Speaker 1>pose as a O'Neal militia officer. Oh J was petitioning

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<v Speaker 1>for the rights of free people of color who lived

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<v Speaker 1>in saw Do Moan, but back on the island, political

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<v Speaker 1>unrest and protest among free people of color was growing.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's pause here for a quick break. My sister is

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<v Speaker 1>notoriously bad at dining out. She doesn't get what she

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't had before. And if I can manage talking her

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<v Speaker 1>into getting something she's never had before, or trying something

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<v Speaker 1>of mine that she would never order herself, she goes

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<v Speaker 1>into the experience with the most apprehension. I want her

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<v Speaker 1>to live her best life, but this is nearly impossible

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<v Speaker 1>when she's so afraid to try foods that she's not

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with. She told me that she'd rather just stick

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<v Speaker 1>with what she knows will be a satisfying mill then

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<v Speaker 1>potentially be disappointed. And I get that justification, though I

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<v Speaker 1>could never but so many people have status quo bias

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<v Speaker 1>in one decision or the next for different reasons. Just

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<v Speaker 1>as it sounds a person has a status quo bias

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<v Speaker 1>when they prefer things to stay the same by doing

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<v Speaker 1>nothing or by doing the same thing they've always done.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a little to no risk involved in keeping things

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<v Speaker 1>the same. You pretty much know what you're in for.

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<v Speaker 1>When you choose to make a change, there's a potential

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<v Speaker 1>for something really really great to happen or for everything

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<v Speaker 1>to go downhill. A person may have this bias just

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<v Speaker 1>because they're familiar with something or someone that's comforting, that's safe,

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<v Speaker 1>or a person could be operating out of loss aversion

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<v Speaker 1>which makes them choose not losing over potentially gaining a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Those status quo bias happens in people from all walks

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<v Speaker 1>of life. It operates differently in different people and different

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<v Speaker 1>segments of society. Often it can come down to holding

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<v Speaker 1>onto what you have being entirely more important than risking

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<v Speaker 1>what you have with the hope of satisfaction. That's especially

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<v Speaker 1>true when your disadvantage or had to fight hard for

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<v Speaker 1>what you already have, or changing the status quo can

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<v Speaker 1>be a perceived loss or anticipate a personal loss. When

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<v Speaker 1>you're in some position of privilege or power, the potential

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<v Speaker 1>for losing that privilege or power is completely unappealing, even

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<v Speaker 1>when that potential is imagined or would result in a

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<v Speaker 1>benefit for society at large. Think of men who claim

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<v Speaker 1>they are the most persecuted or disadvantaged group because of

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<v Speaker 1>the gains women have made in rights and equality over

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<v Speaker 1>the years. Wanting to stick to the status quo can

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<v Speaker 1>be rationalized in many ways. In Oga's case, he was

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<v Speaker 1>willing to uphold the status quo of slavery while simultaneously

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<v Speaker 1>rejecting the status quo that denied free people of color

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<v Speaker 1>equal rights and citizens status. We are not them, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is not okay. Oh J already had a

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<v Speaker 1>better lot in life than enslaved black people, and he

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<v Speaker 1>wished to maintain that separation. Being considered property is undoubtedly

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<v Speaker 1>a more oppressive in cruel life than the one oh

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<v Speaker 1>J was living. O Ja's classism and eagerness to distinguish

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<v Speaker 1>his lot from that of enslaved people of African descent

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<v Speaker 1>were baseless functions of the colonialists in white supremacist systems

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<v Speaker 1>that created and maintained his status. Still, his bias was

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<v Speaker 1>a problematic strategy of survival. At the same time he

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<v Speaker 1>deemed other black people property, he was still marginalized, still

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<v Speaker 1>less than a citizen, and yet he fought against racism.

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<v Speaker 1>The dissonance is real. There was the and to keep

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<v Speaker 1>his head in the sand, as did many free people

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<v Speaker 1>of color, for a survival or for whatever other reason.

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<v Speaker 1>O Jay's vision of equality was limited, and there was

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<v Speaker 1>a thin line between what could be viewed as his

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<v Speaker 1>desire for assimilation and his desire for freemen of color

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<v Speaker 1>to advance in society at the expense of enslaved people.

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<v Speaker 1>He did rebel and fight for change, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>attempting to navigate a maze of complicated conditions. The bias, privilege,

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<v Speaker 1>self importance, societally induced desperation, discrimination, racism, and mistreatment that

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<v Speaker 1>all combined to form the cocktail that catalyzed his action.

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<v Speaker 1>Means that his story is nowhere near black and white.

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<v Speaker 1>When we left off in Oja story, the Cologne of

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Kaine had partitioned for representation in the National Assembly

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<v Speaker 1>and for the acknowledgement of their civil and political rights.

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<v Speaker 1>Degrading prejudices and fall politics had made free people of

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<v Speaker 1>color be treated like slaves and Saint de Mont they said.

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<v Speaker 1>That's despite the fact that on August seventeen, eighty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>the National Assembly had approved the Declaration of the Rights

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<v Speaker 1>of Man and the Citizen, which said that quote men

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<v Speaker 1>are born and remain free and equal in rights. But

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<v Speaker 1>in reality, the enslavement of black people continued in the

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<v Speaker 1>French Caribbean colonies and people of color did not get

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<v Speaker 1>the benefits of citizenships. The Cologne believed that the declarations

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<v Speaker 1>should apply to free people of color in the colonies too.

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<v Speaker 1>They even invoked the Code Noir, a decree passed by

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<v Speaker 1>Francis King Louis the fourteenth and sixteen eighty five that

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<v Speaker 1>in part granted freed slaves the same rights as free

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<v Speaker 1>born people. But in December of seventeen eighty nine, the

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<v Speaker 1>French National Assembly rejected their petition, and in March of

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen ninety the French colonies were granted the rights of

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<v Speaker 1>form colonial assemblies and the colony was given nearly complete autonomy.

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<v Speaker 1>On March, deputies approved voting instructions for the colonies, allowing

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<v Speaker 1>every one age five or older who owned land or

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<v Speaker 1>those who lived in a parish for two years and

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<v Speaker 1>pay taxes to gather to form provincial assemblies. But the

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<v Speaker 1>issue of whether free people of color could be involved

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<v Speaker 1>in electoral procedures was left vague. This intentional ambiguity would

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<v Speaker 1>pose a problem in Sandmint. We'll be back after this break.

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<v Speaker 1>In seventeen nine, political and social tensions were increasing in Sandman.

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<v Speaker 1>It drought hit the colony and enslaved people were escaping

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<v Speaker 1>from their plantations at higher rates. White people were becoming

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<v Speaker 1>increasingly violent towards free people of color and white sympathizers,

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<v Speaker 1>and as white people began to gather in parish assemblies,

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<v Speaker 1>they would lock out free people of color. Free people

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<v Speaker 1>of color began petitioning their parish assemblies for their political

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<v Speaker 1>rights and to eliminate discrimination. By early seventeen ninety, the

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<v Speaker 1>issues of independence, rights for free people of color, and

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<v Speaker 1>slavery were causing a bunch of turmoil and Saint Domin.

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<v Speaker 1>Having met no success in his appeals for rights in France,

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<v Speaker 1>o J headed back to Saint Doman, still determined to

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<v Speaker 1>win citizenship for free people of color. He arrived in

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<v Speaker 1>the colony on October seventeenth, seventeen ninety. After traveling from

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<v Speaker 1>Paris to London to Charlestown, o J minimized the extent

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<v Speaker 1>of his involvement in the revolt that began within days

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<v Speaker 1>of him getting back, But just as soon as he returned,

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<v Speaker 1>he went to the Garden Riviere to meet up with

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<v Speaker 1>the Jean Baptiste Chavane, a free veteran of color who

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<v Speaker 1>fought for equal rights based on his and others records

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<v Speaker 1>of malicious service. In late October, cheven and o j

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<v Speaker 1>wrote to the governor and provincial Assembly demanding the enforcement

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<v Speaker 1>of the voting regulations that have been passed down from Paris.

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<v Speaker 1>Oje's letter to the Provincial Assembly of Cap Francie set

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<v Speaker 1>the following, Gentlemen, a prejudice too long maintained is about

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<v Speaker 1>to fall. I am charged with a commission, doubtless very

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<v Speaker 1>honorable to myself. I require you to promulgate throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>colony the instructions of the National Assembly of the eighth

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<v Speaker 1>of March, which gives, without distinction to all free citizens

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<v Speaker 1>the right of admission to all offices and functions. My

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<v Speaker 1>pretensions are just, and I hope you will pay due

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<v Speaker 1>regard to them. I shall not call the plantations to rise.

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<v Speaker 1>That means would be unworthy of me. Learn to appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>the merit of a man whose intention is pure. When

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<v Speaker 1>I solicited from the National Assembly a decree which I

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<v Speaker 1>obtained in favor of the American colonists, formerly known under

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<v Speaker 1>the injurious epithet of men of mixed blood. I did

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<v Speaker 1>not include in my claims the condition of the negroes

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<v Speaker 1>who live in servitude. You and our adversaries have misrepresented

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<v Speaker 1>my steps in order to bring me into discredit with

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<v Speaker 1>honorable men. No, no, gentlemen, we have put forth a

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<v Speaker 1>claim only on behalf of a class of freemen who,

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<v Speaker 1>for two centuries have been under the yoke of oppression.

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<v Speaker 1>We require the execution of the decree of the eighth

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<v Speaker 1>of March. We insist on its promulgation, and we shall

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<v Speaker 1>not cease to repeat to our friends that our adversaries

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<v Speaker 1>are unjust, and that they know not how to make

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<v Speaker 1>their interests compatible with ours. Before employing my means, make

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<v Speaker 1>use of mildness. But if contrary to my expectation, you

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<v Speaker 1>do not satisfy my demand, I am not cerebral for

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<v Speaker 1>the disorder into which my just vengeance may carry me.

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<v Speaker 1>O j and Chavan mobilized a group of free militiamen

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<v Speaker 1>of color who went through the parish, disarming white planters.

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<v Speaker 1>Cap Francie sent forces to attack the group, and on

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<v Speaker 1>October j Chavan and their group of men held their

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<v Speaker 1>ground in Grand Riviere against the larger group of colonial forces.

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<v Speaker 1>Before a second colonial force could make it there, O

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<v Speaker 1>Jay's group had scattered. They had headed into the mountains,

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<v Speaker 1>moving toward the Spanish colony of Santo Domingo, now the

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<v Speaker 1>Dominican Republic. They made it into Spanish territory on November six,

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<v Speaker 1>but after a week all of the men had been

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<v Speaker 1>arrested or turned themselves in, possibly with the hopes of

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<v Speaker 1>being granted asylum. Instead, authorities sent them back to Cap Francai.

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<v Speaker 1>Oj and Chavan were interrogated in secret. O Jay claimed

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<v Speaker 1>that his actions were only ever political and that he

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<v Speaker 1>did not leave any of the violence. Still, Oje was

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<v Speaker 1>neither sent to France for trial nor judged publicly. In

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<v Speaker 1>Saint de Moon, he and Chavan were tortured and executed

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<v Speaker 1>in public, their heads put on pikes. The execution was

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<v Speaker 1>a brutal display of intimidation, as colonial authorities were worried

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<v Speaker 1>that the rebels who were still at large might be

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<v Speaker 1>planning a revolt. But the end of o j story

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<v Speaker 1>was not the end of rebellion in sad Monk the

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<v Speaker 1>barbarity of the execution helped turrn ties in favor of

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<v Speaker 1>free people of color. In May of seventeen ninety one,

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<v Speaker 1>the French National Assembly granted some freeborn people of color

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<v Speaker 1>the rights of voting citizens and eligibility to be seated

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<v Speaker 1>in future assemblies. Enslaved people whom o j and many

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<v Speaker 1>other free people of color used to associate themselves with,

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<v Speaker 1>soon took up arms in their own fight for emancipation.

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<v Speaker 1>When the revolution broke out against French colonial rule and

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<v Speaker 1>Saint de Monk, people of color were split in their support.

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<v Speaker 1>Some resisted with enslaved people, some took the side of

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<v Speaker 1>the white colonists, and some tried to remain neutral. But

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<v Speaker 1>in seventeen ninety three slavery was abolished in the north

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<v Speaker 1>of Saint de Monk, and the next year slavery was

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<v Speaker 1>abolished in France and all of its colonies. The revolution

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<v Speaker 1>ended in eighteen o four, with Haiti declaring independence from France.

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<v Speaker 1>O Jay's fight had nothing to do with freeing enslaved

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<v Speaker 1>people in Saint Domin. He was not a revolutionary, but

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<v Speaker 1>his death and rebellion lit a match beneath a flammable

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<v Speaker 1>web of conflict among white planters, poor white people, French

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<v Speaker 1>colonial authorities, free full of color landowners, and enslaved people.

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<v Speaker 1>One person's freedom and equality are linked to that of

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<v Speaker 1>the next. O Jay's rebellion, execution, and the subsequent flabor

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<v Speaker 1>bolts and revolution form a very real, very violent, very

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<v Speaker 1>complex allegory for the idea that none of us are

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<v Speaker 1>free until all of us are free. It is probably

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<v Speaker 1>not worthwhile to view Vincent oh Ja as a saint

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<v Speaker 1>of revolution, or even as a liberator for the people.

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<v Speaker 1>O J did use his wealth and status to uplift

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<v Speaker 1>others and sacrifice his life to win a representation and

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<v Speaker 1>rights for a small portion of the population of black

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<v Speaker 1>people and san domnt wealthy freeman of color. His activism

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<v Speaker 1>was instrumental in helping to encourage the spirit of revolution

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<v Speaker 1>in the colony, but he was not a model rebel

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<v Speaker 1>with a flawless vision of liberation. Maybe it's better to

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<v Speaker 1>view o J's story and resistance as an editable template

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<v Speaker 1>for using our specific personal talents, advantages, and powers to

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<v Speaker 1>protest the things we are compelled to change, even when

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<v Speaker 1>our plans are not as grand as flipping the whole

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<v Speaker 1>world upside down. Our producer Is, Andrew Howard, Holly Fry,

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<v Speaker 1>and Christopher Hasiotis are our executive producers, and you can

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