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Speaker 1: Podcast starts now. Wow wow wow, wow wow, what is

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Speaker 1: up everyone around the globe from the USA to the

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Speaker 1: west coast of the USA. My words are for you, and.

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Speaker 2: Let me be the first to say tgif. And I

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Speaker 2: know we've said this before, but it's actually impossible to

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Speaker 2: feel the sense that it's a Friday unless it's Friday

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Speaker 2: where you are, even if you're listening to your favorite podcast.

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Speaker 2: But I still want everyone to try as hard as

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Speaker 2: they possibly can, even if it's just a little corner

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Speaker 2: of their brain that can just relax a little bit

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Speaker 2: and pretend that you're about to go to Friday Halvy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for you, you can say it's Tuesday. I'm in

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Speaker 1: a bad mood. But Sam and George, well they are

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Speaker 1: having a Friday. George, how is your Friday afternoon feeling?

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Speaker 2: You know, I'd be lying if I said good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you kind of woke up on one I did.

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Speaker 1: I tried to take a nap today and I was

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Speaker 1: getting seventeen text messages from you all.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: You know, sometimes I would say that, I would say

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Speaker 2: that I often text you instead of journaling, which I

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Speaker 2: don't think is necessarily a good quality that I have,

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Speaker 2: But sometimes I will literally will maybe text you, you know,

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Speaker 2: six very angry things in a row, and I'll be like, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, now that's on you until you respond.

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Speaker 2: You can sort of carry that weight. How does it

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Speaker 2: feel to be on the receiving end of that? Well,

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Speaker 2: by the way, just for anyone listening, it's not I'm

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Speaker 2: not angry at Sam. There are things I'm angry about,

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Speaker 1: Well. I mean, in this political climate, how could he

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Speaker 2: How listen? I wake up every day and just like you,

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Speaker 2: I read the New York Times morning briefing and I

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Speaker 1: Well, for me, it felt like I actually so, I

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Speaker 2: We get it. You were trying to take a nap.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry I texted.

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Speaker 1: You, and you know, I just hear buzz buzz buzsbus

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Speaker 1: I'm just some I'm getting like a lot of texts

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Speaker 1: it also was this thing where I was like, okay,

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Speaker 1: well you know that thing where you want to put

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Speaker 1: like I'm literally being like George, shut the fuck up.

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Speaker 1: It feels very pointed in a way that is impolite,

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Speaker 1: I find, but I don't know how to like. I

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Speaker 1: doesn't put the little symbol that's like Sam is not

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Speaker 1: receiving text now because you know he was receiving texts

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Speaker 2: Well, they do not disturb thing. I mean this goes

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how about you publish that New York Times Daily briefing.

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Speaker 2: They're afraid, they're afraid. You know, the New York Times

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Speaker 2: You know, the meme that's like men think about the

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Speaker 2: knows that, ha ha ha hilarious. So the New York Times,

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Speaker 2: It's actually crazy, what was it? What was Because we've

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Speaker 1: I hate when they turn that.

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Speaker 2: Shouldn't be in the arts like at the very least

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Speaker 2: put it in the style section, sure, but mostly don't

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Speaker 2: It is so okay. It is actually so crazy, like

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Speaker 1: I mean, we do have to, I think if we're

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Speaker 1: being journalists, if we're if we're truly seeking truth, I

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Speaker 1: think we need to address our role in it as well,

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Speaker 1: because you know, we host a podcast about you know,

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Speaker 1: And that has actually led us to like enforcing binaries

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Speaker 2: No, they will call it intelligent highly so yeah, but

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Speaker 2: I mean, yes, we.

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Speaker 1: This is our first recording since finishing tour, and like

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Speaker 1: What else? What else? What else? Yeah? So I yeah,

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Speaker 1: we are part of the problem.

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Speaker 2: But to be clear, this is what I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: in terms of context collaps you can your present plan.

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Speaker 2: We're present clan on us. We're talking two comedian identified individuals.

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Speaker 2: We're talking a cheeky podcast cover where we're pretending to

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Speaker 2: be scientists. You know, it's you know what you're getting.

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Speaker 2: When I open the New York Times, if they're not

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Speaker 2: reporting on the war in Ukraine, I'm calling the police.

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Speaker 1: Oh I don't support by the way.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't support by the way, but that's what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. They're making me conserve. They're making me politically

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm all in. I mean, as soon as you

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Speaker 1: pull out the words context collapse, I'm like, here he

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Speaker 2: Know, honestly ring the context colaps alarm. And if there

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Speaker 2: so much that'll be broken and I would have to

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Speaker 2: buy a new one at Amazon. And guess what then

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Speaker 2: I would be politically conservative again because I'd supporting Jeff Bezos.

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Speaker 1: Well, I want to share something quickly, okay, which is

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Speaker 1: that today I finally finished watching Seinfeld. Wow, yeah, I'm done.

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Speaker 2: Should we bring our guest to respond?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a good idea.

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Speaker 2: Okay, great, all right, please put your hands together for

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Speaker 2: Demian digiwigbey everybody.

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Speaker 1: Hello, how's it going great? I've never seen Seinfeld? Wow.

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Speaker 1: See I was just like you maybe one year ago.

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Speaker 2: And can I say something I also have. Well, I

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Speaker 1: Fair DEMI, what's been holding you back from the Seinfeld consumption.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm bad at watching any TV show that

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Speaker 2: This is something I go back and forth on, like

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Speaker 2: are you someone that really values being part of a

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'll watch trash just because I'm like, well, everyone's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I Actually I do this a lot. And

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Speaker 1: actually I think Misha gets mad at me. My boyfriend,

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Speaker 1: he like hates when I'm like like that, I only

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Speaker 1: I'm like, but why else would you want to watch something? Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think it's it's very communal. It's like when a

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Speaker 2: It's also important to go opening night because then you

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Speaker 2: can't actually form your own opinion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. True. When there's like a big actually, when I

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Speaker 1: have like a like a notable event, I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: which actually that thought is very Seinfeldian that I wouldn't know.

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Speaker 2: We wouldn't know, Yeah, we wouldn't know. All I know

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Speaker 2: is that I often have moments of being like George

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Speaker 2: Costanza according to Sam, and so that is my way

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Speaker 2: into the Seinfeld universe.

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Speaker 1: I mean, to be the one person on the call

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Speaker 1: who has the Seinfeld knowledge is actually crazy because for

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Speaker 1: all of my life I've been the person who is like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have no idea. I guess I just am different.

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Speaker 1: So now I'm like, I feel mainstream, I feel middle aged.

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Speaker 2: Sound powerful, Yeah, I only sound powerful too. Also, I

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Speaker 1: This show is so damn good, you guys have got

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Speaker 2: It's who is your MVP?

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Speaker 1: That's the problem. Yeah, literally, I mean Georgia Costanza. I

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Speaker 3: I feel like that happens so much though, where it's

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's New Girl.

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Speaker 2: It's New Girl. Yeah, which yeah literally and you girl,

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Speaker 1: What I have? Okay, you got against me. I'm feeling

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Speaker 2: Well, New Girl is a great example because the guys

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like, ah, she's too quirky. Yeah lately lady.

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Speaker 1: that's tough because when there's good TV, I'm like, I'm smiling,

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Speaker 1: How?

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Speaker 3: Then now be like I'll still see what they're saying,

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Speaker 3: It starts to feel like, well, I gotta answer my

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Speaker 2: When I lock something on letterbox, that's my savings account.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm telling everybody. It's like, oh, well I

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Speaker 1: I had to bail on Emily in Paris. It was

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Speaker 3: The thing is like with Emily and Paris, it's everyone

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Speaker 2: Mean, I'm telling you you have to watch the show.

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Speaker 1: No, I do not, I can't do it.

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Speaker 2: I'm good, Okay, did you watch them? Just like that?

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Speaker 3: At the time, was dating someone who was just like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Know what I think it is is I sort of

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Speaker 2: I actually really can watch them because I because they

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Speaker 2: I can't even have fun with it, like.

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Speaker 3: When there's like potential exactly exactly, you could have tried

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Speaker 2: Here exactly, And so that is why I don't even

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, that's which is a whole other thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't you know, I don't want to yuck

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, should be there should be consultants that go

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Speaker 3: And I feel like there are consultants to do that.

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Speaker 2: they're like they'll add a few little things here and

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Speaker 3: I also you have to remember that, like, because there's

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Speaker 2: I do think often the hype is teenagers and even preteens.

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Speaker 1: Yes, speaking of context collapse, I think this is okay,

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Speaker 3: I want to see what other opinions this person has.

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Speaker 3: Like when someone's like mean to me or something, I'm

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Speaker 3: I need I need like references of what your taste

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Speaker 3: I don't care about your taste, Yeah, who are you?

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Speaker 3: Essentially, someone who's like I'm just starting the office and

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Speaker 2: a a Myers Briggs personality type. But for taste.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're just recreating astrology. Now it's like, okay, well

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Speaker 2: for every question.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm a leader.

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Speaker 2: Yeah okay, literally, I'm like I am really, I have

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Speaker 3: My friends can absolutely depend on me.

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Speaker 1: Damn, you're really pointing to something. Those tests, I all

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Speaker 1: because if I'm taking a test, I'm like, yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know I want to be this. How how

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Speaker 2: And also it's like all of that literally hinges on

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Speaker 1: That's while we're taking tests. Yeah that's right. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: By the way, if you're trying to take a test

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Speaker 1: Wow. Damn, we're really getting into something here. You know,

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Speaker 1: We can't decide if we want to be completely free

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Speaker 2: I know, it's true. I mean I struggle also with

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Speaker 2: want a private I don't want you know, Warner Media

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Speaker 2: I want to.

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Speaker 2: Buddha judge in charge. No, not quite. There needs to

435
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Speaker 2: be a third thing, you know, how the you know,

436
00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,359
Speaker 2: public sector, private sector. We need a third thing church. Church.

437
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,000
Speaker 2: And it goes back to my point that I always

438
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 2: bring up that, you know, we lost religion and didn't

439
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 2: replace them with anything else, and that is why we're suffering.

440
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,359
Speaker 1: We need religions, we just need we need new religions.

441
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, ones that aren't about like what happens after your die.

442
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,119
Speaker 3: It's just like, here's how you should be right now.

443
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,160
Speaker 3: And the reason why is we'll tell you later.

444
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Speaker 2: Damn, I'm relaxed just thinking about it. I mean, God,

445
00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,719
Speaker 2: the way that I need something to do every Sunday

446
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,159
Speaker 2: morning cannot be overstated.

447
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 1: Wow, that's true.

448
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,919
Speaker 2: Like, imagine if you just knew that every Sunday you

449
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 2: woke up and went to a place of congregation.

450
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they really, yeah exactly, they really did,

451
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 1: you know, fumble the bag by not making church really fun,

452
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,439
Speaker 1: because they could have easily made it fun and then

453
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,640
Speaker 1: we would have all like, yeah, that's a perfect time

454
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 1: to go hang out with everyone in your squad.

455
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 3: They fucked it up by going all right, now, after

456
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 3: all the songs and stuff, I'll tell you a story.

457
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 3: It's like, we'll just skip this part, just sort of

458
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 3: be like pretty fun to be here, right, all right,

459
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:35,920
Speaker 3: I'll see y'all later.

460
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 1: I don't yeah a lesson. Yeah, drinks are in the fridge,

461
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 1: help yourself to whatever. The church is open for the

462
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 1: next six hours and I'm not looking, that would looking.

463
00:21:49,040 --> 00:22:01,159
Speaker 2: And please give it up for time? Should we do

464
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 2: our first segment?

465
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: I think that's a great idea, Demi. Our first segment

466
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: is called straight Shooters, and in this segment, we ask

467
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 1: our guest a series of rapid fire questions. Is basically

468
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 1: this thing or this other thing, and it is to

469
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 1: gauge your familiarity with and complicity in straight culture. The

470
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 1: only rule is you can't ask a single follow up

471
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 1: question or we will fucking quit podcasting forever, and our

472
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of fans will point to you as

473
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: the person the rays to stop.

474
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 2: And you know you're gonna you're gonna feel confused as

475
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 2: soon as the question start, and we want you to

476
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 2: sit with that.

477
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Speaker 3: Can I I hear a question that sounds like question?

478
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 1: Oh no, okay, all right, Demi's begun. All right, No,

479
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 1: I'm ready, Hey, I'm.

480
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Speaker 2: Ready, Demi, resorting to cliche or covorting on sanrepez.

481
00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: Uh, covorting on sentrepe okay, Demi, Life and Beth or

482
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: Sean of the Dead.

483
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 2: Shan of the Dead, okay, fuck Boy Island or gag

484
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 2: GUYE Friday.

485
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 3: Uh, I don't even know Gagy Friday is I gotta

486
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 3: go fuck boy Island?

487
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 1: Wow? Okay? Believing in kismet or being called sis hett.

488
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 2: So okay, losing my religion by rim or renovating my

489
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 2: kitchen in a neutral crem.

490
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 3: Renovate my kitchen a neutral crim you gotta go crass tones,

491
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 3: oh yeah, okay, polyamory or polly pocket.

492
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: Polly Pocket okay.

493
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 2: And finally needing some ice from the kitchen or reading

494
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 2: Inherent Vice by Thomas Pinchin.

495
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 3: Wow, that's a good one. Uh, needing some ice from.

496
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: The kitchen, okay. And jumping off a cliff or hopping

497
00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: in a lift. I'm hopping that lift, baby? Wow?

498
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 2: All right? I gotta well, Demi. We rank every guest

499
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 2: performance on a scale of zero to one thousand doves.

500
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Speaker 2: I have to say, I feel like that was a

501
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 2: very good performance. What do you think, sam?

502
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: I thought that was incredible. I would go nine hundred

503
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: and twenty two doves.

504
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 2: I agree. Wow, Oh my god, Yeah, how did that

505
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 2: feel for you? Demi?

506
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 3: That was very stressful and there were times where I

507
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 3: saw my life flash before my eyes. I was just like,

508
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: there's one I should pick, and then there's one that

509
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 3: is the real me. Of course, sometimes I just you know,

510
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 3: close my eyes and let God take the wheel.

511
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Speaker 2: Well that's sort of basically how I feel like people

512
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 2: should do this game. I mean, this is this game,

513
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 2: or this segment rather is essentially a way to dom

514
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,239
Speaker 2: our guests. We are not giving you the rules, and

515
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 2: we're not even letting you be the funny one, because

516
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 2: we're the ones reading little things that we wrote. There's

517
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 2: literally no way to there's no way to come out

518
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 2: on top.

519
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Speaker 3: It's kind of like an enneagram. It's like the Meyers Briggs,

520
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 3: except I don't know what I've done.

521
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: Yeah wait, it is actually sort of a Myers Briggs.

522
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: You're absolutely right.

523
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, damn. They should put this in they should put

524
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Speaker 1: this in books.

525
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Speaker 3: Start a church, I would I have to start a church.

526
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 3: Oh well, never you said that, and you have to

527
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 3: be reluctant to start the church.

528
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Speaker 1: Oh I hate when you Willy wonka us. Yeah, well,

529
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: I hate when I have to return it in order

530
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Speaker 1: to get it. Well, should we get into the topic.

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Speaker 2: I think there's no reason not to.

532
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Speaker 1: DEMI, what topic have you brought for us today?

533
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Speaker 3: Today? I brought to you the straight topic of crosswords.

534
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Speaker 1: And what about that feels straight to you?

535
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Speaker 3: Crosswords, I think are inherently a conservative thing, and I

536
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 3: also think, if we're gonna get really into it, I

537
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 3: think puzzles as a whole are very conservative. I think

538
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 3: they present the idea of a puzzle, but there is

539
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 3: a thing to be solved, but there is one answer.

540
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 3: It's very rigid. It's presented in an artful way that

541
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 3: makes you like I'm engaging my brain, but it's like no,

542
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 3: there's there's little hints to a culture over here, but

543
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,719
Speaker 3: really there is one answer. There is a right answer.

544
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 3: If you are wrong, you can. You only respect it

545
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 3: if you do it in pen you can. There's no

546
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 3: like fluidity to it. It's just very here's the right thing,

547
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 3: and there is no other. It's not even a binary thing.

548
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 3: It's a it's a single concept. But at the same

549
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 3: uh and honestly, that is sometimes very comforting to me

550
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 3: to just be like I don't know if it's out

551
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: there is a right answer. I don't know what the

552
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 3: capital of Yemen is, but if answer these other three,

553
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 3: it'll tell me.

554
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Speaker 1: It's like yeah, I mean the educational element, it's sort

555
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: of you know, toxic productivity culture, where it's like there's

556
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 1: always something about like I'm gonna be learning. I have

557
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: this theory that I think straight people are always wanting

558
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: to win the next argument and like in their free

559
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: like that's why, like history podcasts are like straight coded.

560
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: So it's like so that I can like spew this

561
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Speaker 1: stuff and I'll never be wrong again.

562
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 3: And I learned the capital of the place I'm thinking

563
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 3: about the next time I can tell a story and

564
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 3: just name drop the city and just be like, don't

565
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 3: ask any follow up questions today, I will not have

566
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 3: anything else to say besides the city does exist.

567
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 2: Also, this obsession with basically collecting trivia points. It's it's

568
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 2: almost it's like a way to boost your own self worth,

569
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 2: to be like, well, I know fifteen more facts than

570
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 2: you do. That's right, therefore my vote should matter more.

571
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 1: And then you win. Yeah, do you think the government

572
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Speaker 1: should give two votes to people who are good at crosswords?

573
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Speaker 3: No, because that's a that's a very true that's a

574
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Speaker 3: very slippery slope, only because I think you got to

575
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 3: define good good at crosswords as who can complete what day?

576
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 3: Because I think once you get past the Wednesdays, it's like,

577
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 3: all right, that's actually difficult. But some people can do

578
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 3: a Wednesday on a on a on a good day,

579
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 3: and some people can be like, oh, I'm gonna google

580
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 3: the answers toies. I met someone once who was just like, oh,

581
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 3: when you don't know the answer to a cross redpuzzle,

582
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,239
Speaker 3: you just google it because that's how you learn. And

583
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, that feels like not the point though,

584
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 3: so what do we because then how do you approve

585
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 3: to yourself that you're a genius if you're googling?

586
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: That's one of the darker things I've ever heard.

587
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't like it. I don't talk to that

588
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 3: person no more.

589
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: You got to cut them out of your life. They're toxic.

590
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 3: You have to. They're very toxic. And I don't believe

591
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 3: anything they say. I'm just like, well, oh, do you

592
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 3: google that?

593
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: Channon?

594
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 3: Is that where that came from? You didn't know it,

595
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 3: you just googled it?

596
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 1: What is your relationship with crosswords? Do you participate?

597
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 3: I do one every day of my life. I have

598
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 3: many books of crosswords. Oh, go to a coffee shop

599
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 3: with one and sit in the corner silently and do

600
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Speaker 3: one or two and then leave and then be like,

601
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 3: wait a minute, was that weird? Does everyone at this

602
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: coffee shop think? Why is this guy here every day

603
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 3: and he doesn't really talk to us? Why is he

604
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 3: coming here at all? He could do this anywhere. Yeah,

605
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 3: And it's because I gotta get that brain big.

606
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: My entire life, I have been surrounded by crossword people

607
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: and I have never committed enough to figuring out how

608
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: to be one myself. So every time I attempt it,

609
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: you know, by design, at first you feel stupid because

610
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: you have to understand the rules, the recurring themes. There

611
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 2: are sort of like little shortcuts that you are and

612
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 2: I've just never learned any of those. So every time

613
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: I try, like it makes me once again it proves

614
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: myself how stupid I am.

615
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 3: Sure, it's a very it is something so rigid but

616
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 3: still very like. There are rules to it, but it's

617
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 3: very exclusionary. It's very like you try to do it

618
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 3: and then you're like, oh, the person who wrote this

619
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 3: is like getting clever with the cl exactly. Like that's

620
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 3: the art of it. Like making the crossword puzzle is

621
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 3: the thing that is like, this is fun, and then

622
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 3: it's like, well now someone else is just.

623
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Speaker 1: Going like, oh I did it.

624
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 3: It's like kind of when you like bake a cake

625
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 3: and it's like, oh, you've made this personal thing. You've

626
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 3: made like you put your flair in it, and then

627
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 3: eating it. There's no talent in eating it. It's just right,

628
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 3: you're done.

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00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

630
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: It's also like an architect designing a building with like

631
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 2: a billion trap doors and like some beautiful but very

632
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: not user friendly exterior and he's like, wow, look at this,

633
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: I'm so talented, and you're like, okay, well how do

634
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: I get to conference room? See?

635
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like the have you ever been to the

636
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 3: upside down Ripley's Believe it or not house in Orlando?

637
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 3: That's what that's a cross repustle. It's just it looks like,

638
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 3: I think, like a Greek building, but if it were

639
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 3: built upside down, it's supposed to be like oh, pretty cookie,

640
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 3: but then you go inside and you're like, oh it's

641
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: just regular.

642
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: Oh no, that I don't like I don't like it

643
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: at all. That's better. It better be upside down when

644
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: I get inside.

645
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 3: I should have to climb to go pee.

646
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: I would, I would. I'm begging you let me climb

647
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: to go pee.

648
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 2: That's what means.

649
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought an earthquake cabine. The first time I

650
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 3: saw it, I was like, that's crazy. You gotta go

651
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 3: see that. And then I walk inside and I'm like, oh,

652
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 3: this is disappointing.

653
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: It sucks.

654
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 3: I'm twelve and this is the worst day of my life.

655
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. And when you're twelve, when you have the worst

656
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: day of your life, it hits harder because yeah, you

657
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: have the worst day your life and you're like, sure,

658
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: that's it's called Tuesday, sweetheart. I've had I've had enough

659
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: of these. Yeah, wow, I Demi. You describe and going

660
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: to a coffee shop and like having a coffee and

661
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: doing your little crossword actually sounds so nice in a way.

662
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: That is I'm finally understanding the appeal of a crossword

663
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: Like that to me is like it's better than reading

664
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: a book.

665
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I a little less focus and there's a

666
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 3: there's an end point. You are done with a crossword

667
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 3: and you're like okay, well time to go. There'll stop

668
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 3: in the middle of this chapter.

669
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: Well, it's also it is actually, I'm now realizing such

670
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: a big part of the appeal probably is just the

671
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 2: morning routine quality of it having something to do in

672
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: the morning, which I'm I'm like, okay, what is I

673
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: guess my only thing really is sort of like reading.

674
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: My only thing is reading the new like I'll read

675
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 2: like a morning newsletter. But that's not enough. It doesn't

676
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 2: make you feel accomplished. You're like, okay, great, I had

677
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: like three paragraphs.

678
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: There also just is a sense of play in a

679
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: cross I do wish more of my life had, you.

680
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: Know, sure you gotta put it in there. Though it's

681
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: very old man coded. I think it's a very old

682
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: sense of play. But it's not really that playful or whimsical.

683
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 3: So it's just something that makes you. It tricks you

684
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 3: into thinking like, wow, what fun we're having, But then

685
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 3: it's like, well, you sat and you solved a square totally.

686
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: Well it's old man, And it's also NPR tote like

687
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: brunch liberal who goes to live recordings of Weight Weight

688
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: don't tell me, Oh.

689
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I mean you are. It is a I

690
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: think one of the straighter elements of it is the

691
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: fetishization of being old, you know.

692
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: Yes, And also it's very like, it's very someone saying

693
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: because science.

694
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: Oh you're being mean.

695
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: Like there is just something that's very like it's very

696
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: like fetishizing, essentially fetishizing like intelligence.

697
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: Yes, m I fully agree, and I do think it.

698
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: It's that kind of thing where I don't think I

699
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 3: I think if I ever met the people who edit

700
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 3: the crossword puzzles, I would be a little like, well,

701
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: you're not that interesting, You're not that funny. This is

702
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 3: all you just have knowledge that you talk.

703
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: I'll tell you something. I actually know someone who uh

704
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 2: who does a lot of crossword stuff for the New.

705
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:29,959
Speaker 1: Yorker, Will Shorts.

706
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: It's Will Smart, and she actually is very smart in

707
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: real life. And I'm like, damn, oh that's not fun.

708
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: So you're like the real deal and you're not faking it.

709
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: So what does that leave me.

710
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: When people are the real deal? That can actually be

711
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: extremely disappointing.

712
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, wait, Sam, that is so true.

713
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, because oh no, I'm actually just not good enough

714
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: to be good at this.

715
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: I actually remember meeting this person. I mean, I've now

716
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: known her for a few years. I remember meeting her.

717
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: She's just like, you know, this sort of like wonder kid,

718
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: like has been really smart from a young age and

719
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: like went to you know, grad school and is really

720
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: like beautiful and young and also smart. And also I'm like, okay, wait.

721
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: What Yeah, you changed DEMI really didn't like her at first,

722
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: and then by the end he really did.

723
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 3: Like no, I was like, wait, you said beautiful.

724
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 1: I was like wait a minute, Yeah, yeah.

725
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: She's actually stunning randomly and I'm like, wait a minute,

726
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 2: so what so you can just not everyone is faking it? Basically,

727
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 2: That's what it's like. We're so I think so many

728
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: people in our lives, lives, especially in entertainment, are complete frauds.

729
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 2: And then you meet someone that actually is not faking it,

730
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 2: and you're like, wait, I didn't know that was allowed.

731
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: I thought they executed you anytime you had substance in

732
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 2: this town.

733
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 3: It's like, what is there something that is off? Like,

734
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 3: what's wrong with you? Yeah, there's gonna be something wrong

735
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 3: to Yeah. I described it as like like when you're

736
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 3: playing an RPG and you max out all the sliders,

737
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 3: I'm just like, well no, but because you don't have

738
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 3: that much xp so which one is off, which one's down?

739
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: Totally really low? You're not run, something's up. You sacrifice

740
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: something to get to where you are.

741
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 2: Okay, I have an idea which is, in the same

742
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 2: way that you should be able to see everyone's taste

743
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 2: level and age, you should also be able to see

744
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: like their one flaw, like they're deadly flaw.

745
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 1: Okay, everyone share your one deadly flaw. Go, uh can't?

746
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: Oh mine is that I'm just such a perfectionist.

747
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: I was gonna say too tall, and then I was like,

748
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 3: that's not true.

749
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: I lie all the time. Oh that's a good one.

750
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: That's a good one. Actually that wasn't.

751
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 3: That wasn't real. But also in saying that, it was

752
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 3: kind of a lie. So now where are we?

753
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: What mine now? I'm really legitimately trying to think of

754
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: what mine would be. I'm like, pleaser, m people, pleaser,

755
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: that's a good one, that's real, I would say.

756
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to say work. I think

757
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 2: because there are times in my life where I work

758
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 2: very hard. But I think there are the times when

759
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 2: I don't are so toxic, like the times when I

760
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: just overcome by a certain type of laziness are so

761
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: bad that I do think it really impacts my life,

762
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 2: even though there can be months at a time when

763
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: I'm like being really you know, productive or whatever.

764
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 3: I think that is a big reason I've gotten so

765
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 3: into crosswords lately is just because I like me going

766
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 3: to the coffee shop and doing a crossword is like

767
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 3: my job through the strike of just being like I

768
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 3: need to get the fuck out of my house and

769
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: like have something that feels like work, so that now

770
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 3: it's like, well, if I want to go to sleep,

771
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: I have to make the trek home. So yeah, yeah,

772
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 3: I'm so so okay.

773
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: As someone who's not good at crosswords and has never

774
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: quite cracked it, I have this very toxic defensive thing

775
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 2: where I'm like, and I know this is me being

776
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: defensive and me wanting to not admit that I just

777
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 2: am not good at something. But here's my defensive thing

778
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: is I'm like, well, those people just don't want to

779
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 2: read books not wrong. Like I'm literally like, well, literature

780
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: is actually challenging your brain. And it's also like you're

781
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: in these more in this more nuanced brain space of

782
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 2: where something is not either is not always right or wrong,

783
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 2: and you have to actually, like, you know, contend with

784
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 2: your own morality and your own views and relate to

785
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 2: different kinds of characters. Blah blah blah, and these people

786
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 2: just want to use answers.

787
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: You are not wrong.

788
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: I think a lot of it also is I want

789
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: to feel engaged and like like I'm doing something. It's

790
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 3: like I need interactive something or else I just wake

791
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 3: up and like watch a movie. But when I watch

792
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 3: movies sometimes I'm just sitting there like the fuck. I

793
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 3: don't want to sit here and just figure this out.

794
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 3: So it's like I got to do something that it's like,

795
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 3: well I'm part of this.

796
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

797
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: Not to be like really really annoying like thirty something millennial,

798
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: but it is like not to be like adult coloring book,

799
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: But there really is something to like holding a pen

800
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: and marking on paper that I'm like, I'm using both hands,

801
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: like I'm like I'm actually engaged in a physical way

802
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: and more so than like reading a book, Like I'm like,

803
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: I do just want to be able to make the

804
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: little marks that doesn't lot for me.

805
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 3: More so than just doing one on my phone. There's

806
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 3: something about it being very physical, Like there are times

807
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 3: where someone comes into the coffee shop and it's just like,

808
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 3: what's the WiFi? And they're like, oh, we don't have

809
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 3: Wi Fi here in my hem just like you guys,

810
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 3: you still need the Wi Fi. I'm not here just

811
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 3: enjoying life. I'm off the grid because my phone's face

812
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: down three inches in front of me, but I'm off

813
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 3: the grid.

814
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is another part of it, You're right, is

815
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: that it's almost like there's this sort of analogue, vintage

816
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: vinyl feelings about it, like you're like you're part of

817
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 2: this rich cultural heritage.

818
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: I think it's like the the like thirty something version

819
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 1: of like the typewriter, like a typewriter upsession. Oh yeah,

820
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: you know what. I want to that When a coffee

821
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: shop doesn't clearly state what their WiFi is, I get

822
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: so upset because it's like, you know, people want that,

823
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: just yeah post it. Don't make me ask, don't make

824
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: me feel stupid.

825
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't be upset that I asked too, Like it's

826
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 3: like so annoying. I'm like, there's an easy fix right

827
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 3: on it, piece of paper.

828
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: It is wild and I'm like, that's this is what

829
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: coffee shops are for. People bring their computers and use them.

830
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: It's okay, right, Yes, this idea that it should be

831
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 1: some sort of intellectual salon.

832
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 3: You're like, No, if anyone came up to me in

833
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 3: a coffee shop and just wanted to start a conversation,

834
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 3: I think I would also then call the cops. I

835
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 3: just be like, what what are you fucking trying to

836
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: get from me? Like, I won't tell you my social A.

837
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: Lot of things today are making us want to call

838
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: the cops. We should all look inward about that.

839
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, no, when my apartment is too hot, I'm

840
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: ready to call the cops.

841
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 3: Now I think a crime might happen maybe, hm hmm.

842
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: Well well yeah, god he use your own mind to

843
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: draw that conclusion, you know what's happening there?

844
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's okay. So wait, I also want to

845
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: sort of touch a little bit on the I would

846
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 2: say like sort of crossroad industrial complex, which to me

847
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 2: encapsulates like the New York Times games and and like

848
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: the new one that everyone I know is playing called Connections.

849
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: And I do spelling bese sometimes that's the only one

850
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: I do. But it's like it's really this like adult

851
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: obsession with basically word games, individual word games.

852
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 3: You know what I think is behind this is the

853
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 3: feeling of everyone wanting to be engaged in games that

854
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 3: you know everyone is playing, but also wanting to feel

855
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 3: mature about it. So it's like, oh, I can't do Zelda,

856
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 3: I can't do any of these things. It feels like,

857
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 3: but that's a kid's thing. I'm gonna do this thing

858
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 3: that is it's based on words. It's like about language,

859
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 3: and therefore it's me like people will call them like

860
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 3: like they'll say brain games a lot, and I'm like,

861
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 3: m is it.

862
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: I don't.

863
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 3: Are we really like learning anything or like flexing a muscler,

864
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 3: making orself smarter? I think it's just like, no, we

865
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 3: just like the idea of phrasing it that way because

866
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 3: it makes us feel smarter and less immature, which is fine.

867
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 1: I do feel about all of these games the same

868
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: way that I feel about like the Real Housewives franchise,

869
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 1: where it's like now I've gone so long without them,

870
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: and everyone like knows all the nuances that I'm like,

871
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just gonna miss out on it,

872
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: Like I'm any new thing that comes out, people will

873
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: tweet about it for four months and then move on

874
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: to the next one, and I'm just gonna miss all

875
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: of them totally.

876
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 2: There is actually a way in which so I'm thinking

877
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: of something like wordle where you know, you share your

878
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: score online and it's like these green and yellow squares

879
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: or whatever. Okay, it starts out as you almost wanting

880
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: to seem intelligent that you're doing something, but then it

881
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: almost comes full circle where what you're actually tweeting is

882
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 2: just like little square, little colored squares. Like you actually

883
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: seem even dumber than someone who's tweeting, Like, but first coffee,

884
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 2: because all you're doing is like grunting into the void.

885
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 3: And also there there is I remember there was a

886
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 3: big thing about people being like, oh, if you get

887
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 3: it on the first try, that's just luck, that's not impressive.

888
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: You share it. I don't care.

889
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 3: When you get on the second try, that's when you're

890
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 3: actually smart. Yeah, I was like, this is stupid, this

891
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 3: is very so.

892
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 2: Also guess what you're literally yes, sing a word. There's

893
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 2: no such thing as smart or stupid.

894
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 3: I think people are just like, well, because you get

895
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 3: all the information on the first one, and then if

896
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 3: you get it on the second one, that's just because

897
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 3: you are a good logician or whatever. I'm like, all right,

898
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 3: you're not really children, do this, man?

899
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, and they're really good and they're really good

900
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: at it. Well they have all that free time. Yeah,

901
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: schools need to be longer. Oh, I'm always saying.

902
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: This, they need to be twenty four hours long.

903
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 3: Now that we're out of them, I think they should

904
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 3: double them up.

905
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: Start earlier and later. That's what I'm saying. Get them

906
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: up at five, get them out at seven. No recess, recess,

907
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: no lunch.

908
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: No lunch, no naptime, no recess.

909
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: And no classes. In fact, just use those sewing machines

910
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: and make us new shirts.

911
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 2: I was literally, I literally was about to say, use

912
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: those sewing machines.

913
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 3: You can sing songs if you want, but don't make

914
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 3: them too loud or jav Ara is gonna come in.

915
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

916
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, And they better be classics from the classics, from

917
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 2: the American Songbook. I don't want to hear any any

918
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: New age songs going.

919
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 1: On over there. This is part of the religion now, exactly.

920
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, they better be Christian songs, hymns only, hymn's only.

921
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I but to be fair, I do. Yeah,

922
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,760
Speaker 1: It's it's tough because when I do play a zelda,

923
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: I am like, Okay, this is for babies, Like I

924
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: do enjoy it still, but I'm like, I feel like

925
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: I'm dumbing myself down, even though they're very difficult still,

926
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: but I'm like, this is for babies.

927
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 2: Well, I do think again, to go back to my

928
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: like defensive thing about books, there's a way in which literally,

929
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: like literature is the only thing that is firmly for adults,

930
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: and you can hide behind it and be like, well,

931
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: the fact that I'm here reading books, as long as

932
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 2: they're not ya or genre, which is its own thing,

933
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: I could even not be I can even not be

934
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: taking in anything i'm reading, but the fact that my

935
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 2: face is behind a book, I can firmly be like, well,

936
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: at least i'm an adult.

937
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

938
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think sometimes I don't think I'm an adult

939
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 3: because I'll sit and read a book and she be like,

940
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 3: I know, I have to find like the specific things

941
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 3: that's like, oh, I'll read an Agatha Christie totally, I'll

942
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 3: remove the cover, so everyone's like, no, what's he reading.

943
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: When you're reading a book and then suddenly it actually

944
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 2: does get difficult, You're.

945
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: Like what, oh my god, because that's how I'm.

946
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: Supposed to feel all the time. Like when I say

947
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: I want to be challenged, but I'm lying, this is

948
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: what I'm like allegedly saying I want.

949
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 3: I'm always so it's so embarrassing, but I'm genuinely always

950
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 3: so impressed. When I know someone who's just constantly reading,

951
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 3: I'm just like, now that's a that's a man right there. Totally,

952
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 3: it's a grown ass person.

953
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I okay, ready for my meme. Okay, follow this meme.

954
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 1: It's the hotline bling meme and the one the first

955
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: one he's saying no and and it's starting a book.

956
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: The second one he's saying yes, and he's finishing the book.

957
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: Totally totally, because when I start a book, it's almost

958
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: like starting to go for a long run or something.

959
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, there's no way, like I I They're like,

960
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: look how long this is. There's already four characters. I've

961
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 1: never met them before.

962
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 2: When a new character is introduced and you're like, I

963
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 2: don't have the capacity for that. I don't know who

964
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 2: Ezra is and I never.

965
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 3: Will, I'm like, should I should I draw what they

966
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 3: look like so that I can keep track of them.

967
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: I okay, it's funny you say that. I feel like

968
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: when we were all young, we did, like I remember,

969
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 2: especially being I don't know, maybe like a preteen teenager.

970
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: I would like cast actors as I was reading the books,

971
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: and like I felt like I was using my imagination.

972
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: Now I'll read like she had blonde hair and immediately

973
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: forget it. I'm like, no, she's just a blob.

974
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 3: If I put a book down and pick it up,

975
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 3: like even a day later and there's like Lieutenant whatever,

976
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 3: I'm like.

977
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: Who the fuck is this guy?

978
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 3: It's like he's the second character we met.

979
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I wish every book needs a first like this

980
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: book is about this.

981
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 3: You need the playbill at the front with like drawings

982
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 3: of them.

983
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be so helpful. I mean, and don't

984
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: even get me started on when a book has a

985
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: map up top. I'm like, do I have to I

986
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: will like family Tree.

987
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 3: I like, yeah, I don't, because that's them going these

988
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 3: thousand pages are going to cover a new world, And

989
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't have time for this. I haven't

990
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 3: figured out where I live exactly.

991
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: I barely know how to get to the grocery store.

992
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I haven't known my parents address for

993
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: the last decade, Like and now I'm supposed to know

994
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: where the mountain mountains of Morior are, Like, come on,

995
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: but yeah, one day I will learn my parents' address.

996
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 3: Every time I finish a book, though, it does like

997
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 3: I'll bring it up in conversation as if to signal

998
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 3: that I'm reading a book. And that's nice just being

999
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: like that is finding a way to mention this book

1000
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 3: that I finished reading six months ago.

1001
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god. And that real sweet spot when you

1002
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: mentioned it on your podcast, Oh the way the way

1003
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: that I finish a book, And I'm like, well, of

1004
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: course I have to mention the book reading. Yeah, you

1005
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: gotta think, Wow, you gotta. I literally have a new

1006
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: like stand up joke about a book I read, and

1007
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is gonna be a good thing. Damn.

1008
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: You're trying to get on weight Wait, don't tell me.

1009
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, get me, get me in there. I'm ready

1010
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: to as soon as a comedian.

1011
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 2: As soon as a comedian reads a book, they get

1012
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 2: an email from weight Weight, don't tell me. That's like

1013
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 2: we're doing a show in Philly.

1014
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 1: Talk about the weight Weight don't tell me industrial complex.

1015
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 1: It really feels like you're signing up for the Marines

1016
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: when you do one of those shows.

1017
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: And by the way, I am so available and I

1018
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 2: want to do one.

1019
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 3: I've done it a few times before, you've done it

1020
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 3: signed up. They haven't asked me in a while, so

1021
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, they know I'm not reading and don't.

1022
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they found out you're only doing crossford puzzles.

1023
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: Should be my should be my way back in, I

1024
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: would think.

1025
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 2: But yes, that's very true. That's very true.

1026
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 3: You can sit in the audience.

1027
00:47:54,600 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, wow, Well, I mean, sheesh. I'm like, I

1028
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: actually do feel like unfortunately we have fully covered.

1029
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've covered so much. Final thoughts on crossword puzzles,

1030
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 2: on puzzles in general.

1031
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 3: I love puzzles. I will say, everyone I know who

1032
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 3: does puzzles like religiously is very gay. So I think

1033
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 3: they're gonna be mad at me for coming on here

1034
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 3: and being like, puzzles are straight.

1035
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: You know, there is something about it. I mean, with

1036
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: all this stuff with a lot of like, for lack

1037
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 2: of a better word, nerdy stuff, it's like we're talking

1038
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 2: like video games, dungeons and dragons, fantasy novels, whatever. Yeah,

1039
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 2: it's almost like at first glance they seem straight because

1040
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,479
Speaker 2: you imagine, like a nerdy guy, but then everyone who's

1041
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 2: actually into them is like polyamorous and LGBTQ plus.

1042
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, well you gotta do something while while your

1043
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 3: husband's off having their own adventure exactly.

1044
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, damn, that is true. That's a good way to

1045
00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: refer to your husband going to hook up with someone else. Well,

1046
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: he's off on one of his little adventures.

1047
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: He's doing a side quest if he's at Mount mortor.

1048
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: He's he's trying to Mount mortor he's trying to Mount Mortar. Wow,

1049
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: he's never been this far from the shire before. Wow. Huh?

1050
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,439
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I I you know, when you said

1051
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: cross re puzzles, I of course thought, well that sounds

1052
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: pretty LGBTQ plus to me. But I said, you know,

1053
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: this is not my place because I am not part

1054
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: of that culture, and so I can just jump in

1055
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: and say they're straight. There you go.

1056
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 3: I really respect that you decided. I'm gonna sit down

1057
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 3: and listen to the straight man. O him tell me

1058
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 3: what's straight and what's not.

1059
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: Get. Yeah, you know, you gotta go straight to the

1060
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: source to be really helpful. Yeah, Sam, should we do

1061
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: our final segment?

1062
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 2: What do you think?

1063
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, I guess we could, Demi. Our final

1064
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: segment is called shout outs in in the grand straight

1065
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 1: oral tradition of the radio shout out, we will shout

1066
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 1: out to anything that we enjoy. Sort of imagine it's

1067
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: one you're at TRL shouting out to your squad back home,

1068
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: but about anything that you like. And George, this never

1069
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: happens to me. I'm so deeply prepared, not like a

1070
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: script or anything, but I have one that I want

1071
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: to talk about. It's all you, and I don't know

1072
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 1: if if I did say this on an old podcast.

1073
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: Please don't get mad at me, because I don't remember

1074
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: anything I say. As soon as we hit send on this,

1075
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 1: it leaves my brain. This is my journal, Okay, what's

1076
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: upp Everyone around the world freaks, losers, and yes, the perverts.

1077
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: I want to give a huge shout out to the

1078
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:45,919
Speaker 1: Creed trilogy. I watch these movies whenever I'm on a plane,

1079
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: and I love it. I started these movies and I

1080
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: was like, I probably won't like these. I've never seen Rocky,

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00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: but hey, let's hit play and see what happens. And

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00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: every time I'm like, damn, that was the best movie

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00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: of my entire life. I love these films, and when

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00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: you're on an airplane, I feel like you can just

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00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: be a different person because there are no laws up there.

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00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: And when I'm on an airplane, what I am is

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00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: a Creed fan and I love boxing, and I loved

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00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: it my entire life. Sure, I've never seen it when

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00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm on land, but I don't need to because I

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00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: see it in the sky, in luxury, in an aeroplane,

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Speaker 1: next to my closest stranger who is also my best

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00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: friend in the sky. I love the Creed movies, I

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00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: love Michael B. Jordan, and I love boxing sometimes xoxo,

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00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: Sam Damn.

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Speaker 2: Sam Mine is also inspired by a plane movie. Really yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean literally all the both of us have been

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00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 2: doing recently is being on planes, So I guess it

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00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know if you guys know this, but

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00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: we've actually been on tour. We've actually been on tour,

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00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: touring the nation and even Canada.

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00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 2: We've been on tour for one month and you'll be

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00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 2: hearing about it for approximately eight months.

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00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was a tour.

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00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 2: Buckle in and press play on Creed three because it's

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00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: gonna be a bumpy rye doll. Okay, all right, all right,

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00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 2: what's up, hotties.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 2: I'm Megan thee Stallion, and I want to give a

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00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: shout out to I want to give a shout out

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00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 2: to the actor Kevin Kleine. I just rewatched a fish

1112
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 2: called Wanda on the plane and also recently I watched

1113
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 2: In and Out for the first time ever. And we

1114
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 2: don't have a Kevin Klein anymore. Where is we actually

1115
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 2: need They need to create a new Vin The people

1116
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 2: that created you know, Jacob Belordi and all these people

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00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 2: that they're trying to shove down our throats. They need

1118
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 2: to create a new Kevin Klein because this guy, he

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00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 2: is sort of hot in an interesting way, great physical comedian,

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00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 2: but also can go dramatic. Yeah, I've seen the big

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00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: chill he is. He is he can do incredible things

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00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 2: with his body. He is so he can very convincingly

1123
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 2: play gay in a way that actually doesn't seem like

1124
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 2: he's mocking gay people, which is rare. He is charming.

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00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 2: He is a leading man and a character actor. And

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00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 2: he also, by the way, father to one of the

1127
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: it's a very good sort of neple baby that I

1128
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 2: think is very talented on her own and I just

1129
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 2: think he's really incredible, and we should bring back Kevin

1130
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 2: Klein as a as an ideal of an actor, and

1131
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 2: we should award the new Kevin Klein as much as

1132
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 2: we awarded the old one. And that's what I think,

1133
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 2: and thank you and and and also by the way,

1134
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 2: you know Jamie Lee Curtis, she really did a good job.

1135
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: And if there's Clublanda as well, and John Clease, I

1136
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,919
Speaker 2: know he's really he sucks now, but you know there's

1137
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 2: something there, unfortunately, and it pains me to say that,

1138
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: but you have to shout it out. Okay, thank you, goodbye.

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Speaker 1: Who. I haven't seen any of those films. I need

1140
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: to get oh my guy on a plane stat you

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00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 1: literally movies.

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00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 2: I mean, if there's Kualawana is a classic, and I

1143
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 2: had seen that before, but in and out I've been

1144
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: hearing about my whole life and I had never I

1145
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 2: had never watched it. Incredible, incredible film.

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00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: Hmm. Okay, Demi, whenever you are ready, if you have

1147
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: one in mind.

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00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 3: All right, uh yeah, okay, what up? Playgirls and playboys.

1149
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 3: I just want to thank y'all all so much for

1150
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 3: tuning in, and I say, I really, I really got

1151
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,439
Speaker 3: to do a shout out to Talking Heads, because I've

1152
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 3: listened to so much of their music lately and have

1153
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 3: been seeing Stop Making Sense theaters so many times now,

1154
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 3: and it's so fun to wear a big old suit

1155
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 3: to the theater with a bunch of nerds and start

1156
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 3: dancing and realize you're just sitting there watching a concert film,

1157
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 3: but everyone's so excited about it. And then also I

1158
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 3: watched True Stories for like the thirtieth time the other

1159
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 3: day and I was like, Okay, David Byrne's cooking. I

1160
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 3: don't know why he only made one movie and then

1161
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 3: no other movie. And also I just love how every

1162
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 3: one of their songs is just kind of going, isn't

1163
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 3: it so weird that a TV exists?

1164
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: Isn't it so weird that we use lamps?

1165
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, it is really weird, but it

1166
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 3: never feels like it's making fun of it.

1167
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: It's just kind of going.

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00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 3: Isn't it strange to think about this, to think about

1169
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 3: how what a car is? And I'm like, yeah, but

1170
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 3: what a what a dancy way to say that? So,

1171
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 3: you know, thank you to David Byrne into his bandmates

1172
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 3: it apparently he was a real shithead too. But now

1173
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 3: that they're all older, they've sort of seemed to be

1174
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 3: over it. And that's also cool too, because there's nothing

1175
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 3: better than a reunion. So thank you for the drama.

1176
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, okay, I need to you know, Sam,

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00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 2: have you seen stop making some No, I want to go.

1178
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 2: Let's me too. When they bring it to now it's

1179
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 2: only playing in like the Lincoln like Lincoln Center or something,

1180
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 2: but when they bring it closer to us, I we

1181
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 2: are going, okay, wait all right.

1182
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: And shout out of time for it heals all wounds. Yeah.

1183
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 1: I love that all three of our shoutouts were film related.

1184
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 1: We are such film buffs and catch us on letterbox,

1185
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: big old, big old nerds. Yeah, I love that.

1186
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 2: Demmie, thank you so much for doing the pod. This

1187
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 2: was such a delay.

1188
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 3: This is really honor to be on here. I hope

1189
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 3: I've done a good service in presenting for the Straits,

1190
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 3: and I think hopefully when our time comes, we will

1191
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 3: be spared.

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00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you know, at some point they did our

1193
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 2: listeners did tell us don't have any more straight mail guests,

1194
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 2: and so you're the first one we've had in a while.

1195
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 2: And I think this one will actually changes their minds

1196
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 2: for good.

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00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 3: Okay, they're like, all right, one was okay, yeah, but

1198
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 3: don't let it keep happening.

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00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, we we don't even see sexuality.

1200
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 3: That's what'sre no, no, so progressive for a podcast about

1201
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 3: straight closer.

1202
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: Totally Oh yeah, fuck, we're bad at our jobs. No, okay,

1203
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: but okay, thank you for real.

1204
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 2: Okay, and shout out to the federal government. It's been

1205
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 2: a real motif tonight.

1206
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 3: We love those guys. I can't wait to join the

1207
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,760
Speaker 3: troops and start religion.

1208
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 1: And I hope they get more involved in our lives,

1209
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 1: not less. Okay, bye bye,