Speaker 1: First order of business is to get started. In New
Speaker 1: York and.
Speaker 2: The federal sex trafficking and racketeering trial against Shawan didny
Speaker 2: Comb's defense Attorney's foot Combs picked back up with their
Speaker 2: coross examination of Cassie Ventura, the ex girlfriend. The judge
Speaker 2: determined today would be her last day on the stand,
Speaker 2: as Cassie is nine months pregnant and could go in
Speaker 2: the labor at any moment. She's considered the key witness
Speaker 2: in the trial who so far testified about physical abuse,
Speaker 2: Diddy's temper and her participation in freak offs, the drug
Speaker 2: fueled sex performances he orchestrated as well. Cassie's testimony is
Speaker 2: laying a critical foundation for both the prosecution and the defense.
Speaker 1: I'll get into that in a second.
Speaker 2: Today, she was asked about text messages exchanged between her
Speaker 2: incomes in the days after the infamous incontinental hotel beating
Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen that we all saw on video a
Speaker 2: few months ago. In the messages, Combs expressed desire to
Speaker 2: inc gage sexually with Ventura. On the course examination, Ventura
Speaker 2: confirmed she thought it was strange he would suggest something
Speaker 2: sexual after what happened at the hotel. Here's a portion
Speaker 2: of that text exchange. Combs wrote, quote I felt that
Speaker 2: way from Friday to day of the altercation.
Speaker 1: End quote.
Speaker 2: Cassie responded, quote, what are you doing? Not a good vibe?
Speaker 2: We need a different vibe than Friday.
Speaker 1: End quote.
Speaker 2: Did he respond it quote Friday, laugh out loud. I
Speaker 2: don't even want to do that again. End quote Cassie.
Speaker 1: Quote laugh out loud. True.
Speaker 2: And then the following messages, Combs referenced the card and
Speaker 2: told Ventura that he loved her. Cassie responded, quote, love you.
Speaker 1: End quote.
Speaker 2: Look y'all, these things can get complicated, yet can be
Speaker 2: very very simple, So let me try to simplify it
Speaker 2: as best as I possibly can.
Speaker 1: Number One, if you are.
Speaker 2: Diddy, your number one priority is to make sure you're
Speaker 2: not spending fifteen to the rest of your natural life
Speaker 2: in jail, fifteen years to the rest of your natural
Speaker 2: life in jail.
Speaker 1: For sex trafficking and racketeering. So what you're trying to do.
Speaker 2: Is show there's a significant level of consensual behavior taking
Speaker 2: place here to eradicate the notion that you're some sex
Speaker 2: trafficker or racketeerer.
Speaker 1: That's basically what you're trying to do.
Speaker 2: But in the process of doing that, he's further incriminating himself.
Speaker 2: His defense team, that is, because they're fully acknowledging that
Speaker 2: what we've seen on video already and what she's elaborated
Speaker 2: on extensively was a history of physical violence against her
Speaker 2: that included black eye and urination and all of this
Speaker 2: other stuff. They're essentially acknowledging that that's true. So life
Speaker 2: as did he once knew is over. The commercials, the
Speaker 2: Shirak commercials, and the parties and ought, nah, that's over.
Speaker 1: That's over being.
Speaker 2: Accepted by the status quote being a major player and
Speaker 2: influencer in the world of Hollywood and hip hop and
Speaker 2: Beyonce over. But again, the case is a federal one
Speaker 2: and then involves sex trafficking and racketeering as opposed to
Speaker 2: domestic violence, which is a state crime. And so because
Speaker 2: of it, you sort of understand where his defense team
Speaker 2: is coming from, and in that regards, incriminating as it
Speaker 2: may be.
Speaker 1: To be considered what he is at this particular moment
Speaker 1: in time.
Speaker 2: I mean, women, everywhere I've looked, you have one woman
Speaker 2: and after another using the word repulsive and repugnant, and
Speaker 2: a lot of other things that I'm not going to say.
Speaker 1: This is how they're feeling about him.
Speaker 2: He can't be overly concerned about that when he's trying
Speaker 2: to avoid being behind bars for the rest.
Speaker 1: Of his life.
Speaker 2: The other side is Cassie, and that's where it gets
Speaker 2: tricky because purportedly being raped, you were still in his
Speaker 2: life for a significant period of time thereafter. And those
Speaker 2: text messages that were just shown after he beats you,
Speaker 2: after he assaulted you, laugh out loud.
Speaker 1: Let's have a different vibe than Friday.
Speaker 2: That's not something you expect to hear any immediate aftermath
Speaker 2: of being thrown to the ground, kicked, hit, having a
Speaker 2: glass vase thrown at you at your head. That's not
Speaker 2: something that you're expecting to read. That's not a level
Speaker 2: of communication you're expecting to.
Speaker 1: To witness to hear about. It's just the truth.
Speaker 2: And so now we're gonna find ourselves as a society
Speaker 2: addressing several issues.
Speaker 1: And I think that it's dangerous to do this.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't advise people to do it, but people are
Speaker 2: already doing it. If you listen to what people are
Speaker 2: saying in their comments and beyond about this trial, they're
Speaker 2: saying Okay, she's bringing this up. Now you know he's
Speaker 2: under arrest, and you know, hell, hath no fury. I
Speaker 2: don't want to hear that. Anybody trying to hear that,
Speaker 2: But you got people talking that stuff. They're gonna look
Speaker 2: at her and they're gonna question the legitimacy of her
Speaker 2: victimhood because that's what the defense is doing, and they're
Speaker 2: going to look for her level of culpability and the
Speaker 2: consensual element of their relationship to offset, if not completely
Speaker 2: debunk accusations and allegations that she was somehow assaulted or beyond.
Speaker 2: These are all details we don't need to get into,
Speaker 2: but they're unavoidable from the standpoint of recognizing what the
Speaker 2: case is, what one argument is being made compared to
Speaker 2: what the other argument is being made, and.
Speaker 1: To the.
Speaker 2: Prosecution, she's a key witness. They came out swinging with her.
Speaker 1: I got that part two. But the fact that she's pregnant.
Speaker 2: And she's detailed what she has detailed, and still they've
Speaker 2: been able to gather text message exchanges between.
Speaker 1: Her and Diddy in the aftermath.
Speaker 2: Of these physical encounters and ordeals she was forced to endure.
Speaker 1: They're saying, were you really forced? Did you not invite this?
Speaker 1: Was this not par for the course.
Speaker 2: I don't know how to I don't know where to
Speaker 2: go beyond that, But I'm gonna say this as a man,
Speaker 2: because I think it's important to say this. You can
Speaker 2: look at it two ways when it comes to a husband,
Speaker 2: because we gotta say this ladies, because it got ladies
Speaker 2: in the studios.
Speaker 1: We gotta say this. It's important you do. All I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do is personalize it.
Speaker 2: If it were me, Although in no way would I
Speaker 2: question whether or not I believed my wife if she
Speaker 2: said she was raped and assaulted, I would definitely believe,
Speaker 2: and I would be in the courtroom to support her.
Speaker 2: I would say, at the very least, can we all
Speaker 2: can see that stuff is pretty hard to listen to.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the consensual stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the consensual stuff involving multiple men.
Speaker 1: I'm talking to the consensual.
Speaker 2: Stuff involving acts that included those men. And that's recognizing
Speaker 2: that there's a believability factor in terms of her being assaulted.
Speaker 1: It would be really hard to listen to all of that.
Speaker 2: And I think that's why when we see some of
Speaker 2: these comments and people commenting on the case and stuff
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: You have certain people who feel one way and certain
Speaker 1: people who.
Speaker 2: Feel another way because they're taking all of this evidence
Speaker 2: into consideration and they're asking themselves, what if it was
Speaker 2: them that was sitting in the courtroom, What if it
Speaker 2: were them that was sitting on that stand. What if
Speaker 2: it were them that were detailing some of these things
Speaker 2: that transpired. What if it was them that had that experience? Again,
Speaker 2: it's p Diddy, P Diddy. No matter what way you
Speaker 2: slice it, he looks horrible, horrible, But for the purposes
Speaker 2: of the trial, the question is does he look like
Speaker 2: a sex trafficker or racketeer? If the answer to those
Speaker 2: two questions are no, you know what the bottom line is,
Speaker 2: you can't get convicted, at least in this case, for
Speaker 2: being an absolutely horrible, repulsive human being.
Speaker 1: Are you a sex trafficker and racketeer or are you not?
Speaker 1: That's the bottom line. That's the bottom line.