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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome back to another edition of the Vikings Tailgate.

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Speaker 1: It's Saints Week. Diehard Saints fan Sean Patton. You know

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Speaker 1: stand up comedian. He has a special on Peacock called

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Speaker 1: Number One. He's fantastic. He's one of my favorite comedians

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Speaker 1: of all time. It was really great to have him

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Speaker 1: Thanks so time. Hey everybody, it is Saints Week. I

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Speaker 1: am riding high in a way. Whatever happened last week?

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Speaker 1: This Josh Dobbs fever that has taken Vikings Nation by storm.

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Speaker 1: I'm infected? Is this the worst metaphor of all time

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Speaker 1: to start a show? Perhaps? But I'm jacked joining me

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Speaker 1: longtime friend die hard Saints fan, the great Sean Patten. Hello,

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Speaker 1: my friend, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Cy, and thank you for having me. And I gotta

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Speaker 2: say too. I was a little infected with the Josh

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Speaker 2: Doobs feaver as well.

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Speaker 1: How I don't understand how last year when Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's basically a real life Willie Beamon.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you know from that You and I are the

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Speaker 1: only people that remember that movie. There is no one else. Well,

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Speaker 1: I can't even it was Al Pacino and Jamie Fox.

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Speaker 1: What was the name of it any given Simon. Here's

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Speaker 1: why I remember that movie, Sean, because whenever I would

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Speaker 2: I like how he took He's like, we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: Saying, yeah, can we package that up and can we

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Speaker 1: Sean Patten was right, come find him.

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Speaker 2: What I wanted to do was at the end of

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Speaker 1: Going back to the idea of these you know you

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Speaker 1: is probably more famous than the governor in that state

430
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: by a couple miles. I shouldn't say probably, I would.

431
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 1: I would put all my earnings on that. I think.

432
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: Sure.

433
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 1: So that's in today's day and age to be a

434
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: young kid and have all this new media and all

435
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 1: these it's it's kind of like the world said, what

436
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 1: if we had a lot more places for people to

437
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 1: put their opinions around your performance of whatever you do?

438
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean, like ten years ago, I

439
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 2: got a little Twitter mad at Drew Brees, uh because

440
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: he was it wasn't two twelve, so eleven years ago

441
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 2: he was opening up a couple of Jimmy John's in

442
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 2: New Orleans, which you know, I got no problem with,

443
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 2: you know, people opening businesses, but he was doing it

444
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 2: in like historic areas of the city, and he was

445
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 2: doing it and he was doing it next to like

446
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,479
Speaker 2: like wedged in between like mom and pop joints that

447
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: have been there for decades that in my opinion, it

448
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 2: was like, dude, that's just bad business, Like you're it's

449
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 2: going to be known as it's Drew Brees is Jimmy Johns.

450
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 2: There's no way they're not going to fly that banner.

451
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 2: And it's like, you know, open them up and metry

452
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 2: or buy the airport or in like parts of the city.

453
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: That like places where Jimmy Johns don't screw over families

454
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: that have spent generations building a restaurant, right right.

455
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 2: And I launched a pirade against him on Twitter, just

456
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: like tagging him like hey, man, thought you were about

457
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 2: the city. Hey, And then I started to getting like,

458
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 2: you know, you said earlier a thing that I think

459
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 2: is beautiful about being able to turn it off a

460
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 2: little bit. I remember whether the Sinks lost to the

461
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,479
Speaker 2: Alex Smith passed to Vernon Davis in the playoffs in

462
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: two thousand, I want to say the same year, twenty

463
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 2: twelve seat or eleven seasons. I got so angry that

464
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: I threw my BlackBerry there you go, threw my BlackBerry

465
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 2: at a tree and it shattered, not the tree, but

466
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 2: the BlackBerry shattered. And it was that moment watching my

467
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 2: BlackBerry on the ground it's broken, thinking well, I got

468
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 2: to get another one of those, because that's the future

469
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 2: of phones. No one, nothing's never gonna get better than that.

470
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get one of these candy ass iPhones

471
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 2: and get another BlackBerry. But also realizing like, yeah, you

472
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 2: got to back off a little bit. It's is not healthy.

473
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 2: But I always say that if your team sucks, and

474
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 2: if you're going through it with your team, remember one thing.

475
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: Eighty percent of the players on that team don't actually

476
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: live in your city. So just remember that. Okay, it's

477
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: all a game, it's all entertainment. It's awesome when they win,

478
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 2: let it go when they lose. It's not on you.

479
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 2: Like speaking of Philadelphia, people you know talking about burning

480
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 2: the city if they lose. I'm like, yeah, but most

481
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 2: of them aren't coming back to that city. Like Jalen

482
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: Hurts lives in Chicago. I'm pretty sure.

483
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, who are you affected? Yeah, it's a It's a

484
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: beautiful escape, That's what I always say. It's a beautiful,

485
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: wonderful escape that you can both invest your enthusiasm and

486
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 1: your sadness in and then you can move to the

487
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: you can move to the next thing while letting that

488
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: piece still exist. But I do, I do have to

489
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: point out something that you mentioned to me because we're

490
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: kind of saying, hey, everybody, take a breath, and you know,

491
00:26:52,640 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: realize how it's again. But your family, your family of diehards,

492
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: has a belief about here's the thing. I'm just going

493
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 1: to shut up. I'm just going to let you tell it.

494
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: So, So I was my birthdays in November, right, it

495
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 2: was the following season. So it's like I just turned

496
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 2: a year old or as about turn year older. And

497
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 2: my parents, you know still to this day, long time

498
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: season ticket holders, and they take me to a game

499
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: as a baby, and you know what, you see a

500
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 2: lot and it was against the Falcons and the Saints

501
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: were winning, and they do this thing where they leave

502
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 2: at the you know, it's early in the fourth quarter.

503
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: It's like, let's get out of here, let's you know,

504
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: and then it's like halfway through the fourth quarter they're

505
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: leaving the game to beat the traffic there. They're a

506
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: young family at that point, you know, they didn't like

507
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 2: my dad couldn't afford to park in the parking lot

508
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 2: at the super Dome. So it was like a you know,

509
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 2: ten minute walk to where the car was. He says,

510
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 2: they get in the car, turn on sports radio. The

511
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: very first thing they hear is and lightning has struck

512
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 2: the New Orleans says, from the time they left, when

513
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 2: they got to the car, the Falcons scored like two

514
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 2: touchdowns in the field goal to take the game. That

515
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 2: they were they were down two and a half scores

516
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: and won.

517
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 1: So so they were they the Saints were ahead of

518
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: the Falcons by two and a half scores. Your parents

519
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: are like, let's get home. This was great, you guys.

520
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 1: By the time you're in the car, they're losing.

521
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 2: They lost. By the time they get the car, the

522
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: game's done. Like they lost, like, you know, by three points.

523
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: And so that that always comes up, always comes up

524
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 2: whenever the Saints are having a bad season. And my

525
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 2: argument is always, no, they lost because they took me

526
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: out of the dome. They were winning.

527
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: So your family is insisting that you're that action them

528
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: leaving a win early with you and tow has cursed

529
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: the team.

530
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: No, not that they're saying my presence did. My argument

531
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: is no, No, if you would have just stayed the end,

532
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,239
Speaker 2: they would have won. I was in the building they

533
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: were winning.

534
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: That's a very New Orleans response, the yeah you cursed him,

535
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: well I left. Yeah, that's the curse. I was like,

536
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: I don't think you understand curses at all.

537
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's hilarious because like all through my teams

538
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: and like young years and teams going out every game,

539
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: I mean all throughout the Gym Hazlet years, the Saints

540
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: were just bad and it would just be like every

541
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: well they are bad again. But my little brother, who's

542
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: way younger than me, he's only known the Saint says

543
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: like awesome. One of his first games was that game

544
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 2: where he dropped.

545
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: The ball the Katrina game.

546
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, he did. He did go to

547
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: that game though, but he was at that game. He

548
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 2: went to the game where they beat Philly to move

549
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: on to the NFC Championship for the first time. He

550
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 2: went to that NFC Championship against and I mean, just

551
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 2: let me just go ahead and take a dump on

552
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,479
Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears fans for a second. Hey, those guys

553
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: through snowballs with nine Vault batteries inside of them at

554
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 2: Saints fans for that game, which is just grow up.

555
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 2: I get, you get like shouting staying awful things, talking trash.

556
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: I get that, but you're throwing nine vault batteries in

557
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: fast football. It's ridictous. That's terrible. But whatever. My brother

558
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: and my dad went to the Super Bowl when they won.

559
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: Oh that had so they only he only knows the thing,

560
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: says like, man, they're just great.

561
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: I just go they just win games.

562
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: He's it's almost even though you guys have the same dad,

563
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: it's almost like your two sons with different dads, and

564
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: yours wasn't around and his was a million. Yeah, like

565
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: that's you have. You've had very different upbringings.

566
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's it's kind of wild. But like,

567
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: but I will say, you know, my dad was always

568
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 2: that very temperate Saints fan, which I kind of learned

569
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: from him. He was that like when they're winning, he's

570
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: buying drinks, he's high five with people, he's tracking jokes

571
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 2: when they're losing, and he's like, oh, well that Palmer

572
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: whatever next season. But all of my uncles and the

573
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: rest of my family goes like nuclear. Like my mom

574
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: when she loses, when the Saints are losing, some of

575
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: the shit that comes out of her mouth. Jee, I

576
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 2: didn't realize you could could buy those two words.

577
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, my dad gets he gets so nervous. He doesn't

578
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: he's not loud, he's not mean, he's not like depressed

579
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: after He's not an hole when something great happens to

580
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: the other fans. He doesn't go out of other teams,

581
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: but he just gets like he can't handle the pressure

582
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: of the big moments. It gets to him. He's got

583
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: to go on a walk. Man. Oh yeah, I thought

584
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: he might have to retire as a fan after last

585
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: year because there were so many crazy last minute moments. Uh,

586
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: let me let me ask you this and then we'll

587
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: get you out of here. Because we've talked a lot

588
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: about being humans. How do you feel about this game?

589
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: How do you feel about this version of the Saints?

590
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: The Vikings walk into this game with the Dobbs thing

591
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: going on, and there's this swirling vibe that even though

592
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: they're not gonna have Justin Jefferson this week and cam

593
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: Akers is now not going to be there, if they

594
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: can somehow figure out a way to get one this

595
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: week and they get to six and four and JJ like,

596
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: there's this this swirling idea that they could do something

597
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: fun for the rest of the year, but I it's

598
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: not like they can't if they lose this week. But

599
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: I think this week is a huge, huge piece of that.

600
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of emotion wrapped into the Viking

601
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: side this week. With that said, you guys have Derek Carr,

602
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: you have a different coaching staff, you like I had

603
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: kind of I've had pretty high expectations. I'm one of

604
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: the few believers in Derek Carr. But where are you

605
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: at with your team walking into this game this week?

606
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: Well, my very good friend James Matter, fantastic comedian, opens

607
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: for Christis Stefano. He's from Vegas, right, so he sort

608
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: of adopted the Raiders, Like everybody in Vegas, they really

609
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: you know there, they adopt this FOURT team. And when

610
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: and when Derek Carr made the jump, he's like, they're

611
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: they're paying out, like having a gold retriever a quarterback.

612
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: It's like its beautiful form and when it when it

613
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 2: does something good, you're like, God, that's a magnificent beast.

614
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: That's a magnificent beast. But then you know you're like, oh,

615
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 2: that's right, it's a dog. It doesn't know it does

616
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: not call it audible. It's such a funny thing.

617
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: It's a really funny line.

618
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, yeah, at the end of the day,

619
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: it's still it's still Derek Carr. And I want Derek

620
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: Carr to seed obviously because not just because he's the

621
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: same quarterback, but also, like I mean, that guy had

622
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: a ringer of a time in Vegas and in Oakland, Oakland,

623
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like like you want that

624
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: guy to succeed. He's got the he's got the physical skills,

625
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 2: and it's he seems to be, you know, getting better.

626
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: I think Peyton's tenure with the Saints was one of

627
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: the longest head coaching runs in the history of the sport.

628
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: It was a long It was you know, fifteenth sixteen seasons,

629
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: but he was suspended for the one still fifteen seasons

630
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: and mostly successful, and you sort of got used to

631
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: this level of like if they were gonna be if

632
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 2: it was gonna be bad, they were still gonna be

633
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: good bad. Does that make sense? Like like you know,

634
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: they had they had three they had three seven and

635
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: nine seasons before they got really good again. And after

636
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and even thee of those seven and

637
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: nine seasons, you were still like, ah, but says do

638
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 2: you still see that they're a good team. Yeah, it's

639
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: hard to say the same so far under the Dennis

640
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: Allen tender And I love that dude as a defensive coordinator.

641
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 2: He came in and changed the defense. I mean we

642
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 2: had Buddy Ryan, not Buddy Ryan.

643
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Speaker 1: No, you had one of the you had one of

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Speaker 1: the Ryans. You had not Rex Rob Ryan. You had

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00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: Rob Rob Ryan and his incredible hair. Yep, it had

646
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: been amazing. If you'd have had Buddy Ryan.

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Speaker 2: We can drug him back from the dead. Baby Saints,

648
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: you know, they're a non tooth. They can bring people back.

649
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 2: But Rob like that guy and that thing too. That

650
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: dude embraced the city. Rob Ryan or whenever he came

651
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 2: in that he was everywhere, all these paparazzi, you know,

652
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 2: him just partying with people, buying drinks. The shitty loved

653
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: him as a guy. But he was a terrible coordinator.

654
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 2: But Dennis Allen came in and just turned the defense

655
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: into a juggernaut. But it's like now you're watching them

656
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: play and you're like, do they did they forget that

657
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 2: Alvin kamaras on the team. Did they forget? How do

658
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: you know? It's like and and Chris Olov's great. I

659
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 2: love it, but it's also like, what do you you

660
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 2: know bringing back Jimmy Graham why he's thirty seven? Like

661
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: I guess from the locker room. Sure, but like aren't

662
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 2: there other things to focus on here? And so like

663
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 2: it seems like the offense right now is just like,

664
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: you know, it's back to that era of like, oh man,

665
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 2: they're not it's not the offense you got you to see.

666
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 2: You know, Drew Brees, even at the end when he

667
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: couldn't throw the ball longer further twenty five yards, was

668
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: still Drew Brees could still like see.

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00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: You'll still had the brain.

670
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he could still make wins happen and make touchdowns

671
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: happen like somehow like it's almost like he had mind

672
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 2: control over like his reteemers, Like you could just be

673
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 2: like you're gonna be here and the ball's gonna be

674
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: there and you'll be fine. I'm not saying cars sucks

675
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: anything like that, because I don't think that. I'm just saying, like, man,

676
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 2: I really every game with the Saints feels like you know,

677
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 2: when you got a burp and you're like, oh, he's

678
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 2: doing for your big one. Oh here we go and

679
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: you're just like and it just kind of never happens,

680
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 2: and two hours later it's like a week cough, that's

681
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 2: what it kind of. I'm just like, like, come on,

682
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 2: just belt, guys, just rip one.

683
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: And I don't feel bad for anyone who's had a

684
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterback for nearly two decades. I do

685
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: think it is unique to have one of those and

686
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: then not have one. You know, if you spend almost

687
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 1: twenty years with Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, and Brett Favre,

688
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, whoever it may be, it is

689
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: weird to all of a sudden go because you do

690
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: convince your no matter how great they are and how much,

691
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: no matter how much you believe you're able to understand

692
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: how great they are and how fortunate you are to

693
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: be watching them, your brain still goes like, yeah, but

694
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: we'll be okay.

695
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:05,479
Speaker 2: Ah.

696
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: It's the world out here with the non Hall of

697
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: Fame quarterbacks is an interesting world, and it's it's one

698
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: that you have to you have to get used to.

699
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: Because that's the other thing too. You know, people like as

700
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: far as that's or whatnot, go like, car, isn't that

701
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: different from Drew Brees when he came to the things, like,

702
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 2: Drew Brees, wasn't this like Harold, did you know, genius quarterback?

703
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 2: When he came to the things, he was kind of

704
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: talked away by San Diego and people were like, ah,

705
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: he had that one really good season and he was

706
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 2: great in college, but he hasn't really shown anything in

707
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: the pros and now his shoulders blown, so good luck.

708
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: And you could look at Car the same way. You're like,

709
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: you know, you had seven seasons and some of them

710
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 2: were great, some were bumpy. But then also you had

711
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: you know, fifteen offensive coordinators whatever you know, and all that,

712
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: you know, all the Antonio Browns off of the John

713
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: Rudin ship, and so many head coaches like he'd been

714
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 2: through the the the head coaching personnel version of a

715
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: blown shoulder. So you're like, maybe this guy could be

716
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: that good, and you've start to then you start to

717
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: wonder like could he have been that good under Peyton?

718
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then it kills you.

719
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 2: Every single Saints fan knew what was happening when he

720
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 2: stepped down. Everyone we're like, he needs to get away

721
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 2: from the organization. The salary cap is you need to

722
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 2: get away He's stressed out and tired of constantly having

723
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: to right the ship, even though Mickey Looms is great

724
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: at what he does and everyone knew he was coming back,

725
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 2: just not as a Saint. Oh it hurts, Oh it hurts.

726
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: It does It does feel a little good to watch

727
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: him struggle with Denver. Not gonna lie to you, but

728
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 2: you gotta stop wondering because you can only move on, you.

729
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: Know, just got to exist in the now. I'm gonna

730
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you do this, and I'm sorry about it.

731
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: I make everybody do it. Can I get a prediction?

732
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: A score prediction for the game this weekend?

733
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: A fan, and I want to see it go, but

734
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 2: I want to win. Twenty eight to twenty seven New

735
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 2: Orleans Saints.

736
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: I love it. I think you know, you do have

737
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: a very good defense. The Vikings defense has been playing well.

738
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: So I think I'm gonna go Saints thirteen. Okay, Vikings

739
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty eight. Sean, I I love you

740
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: a great deal. I really appreciate you doing this, man.

741
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, big shout out to Sean Patten

742
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: for joining tonight's show, and thank you again to our

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00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,279
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