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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of I Heart Radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology

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Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show Current eve Fin.

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Speaker 1: That's right, all the animal news that's fit to pop

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Speaker 1: Wales caught hugging on camera Angela Jolie covered in bees

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Speaker 1: and a new glowing total it just dropped. Discovered this morse.

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Speaker 1: We answer to the angel judge the discover the morse.

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Speaker 1: We answer to the angel question, can you get sued

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Speaker 1: by a bee for copyright infringement? Joining me today to

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Speaker 1: go over the animal muse is co host of the

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Speaker 1: podcast Ethnically Ambiguous Shrine Lenny Units. Welcome, Thanks Katie, thanks

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Speaker 1: for thanks for having me. Also, I love that you

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Speaker 1: called her Angela. Angel Jolie and Angie, that's not as

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Speaker 1: pretty as Angelina. I'm not gonna lie Angela Angela. Look.

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Speaker 1: I do like the name Angela, but it's definitely got

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Speaker 1: more of like an office casual vibe. Yeah, but Angela

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Speaker 1: is a beautiful name. No no, no shade towards Angela's

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Speaker 1: but yeah, Angela Jolie definitely does get different. Yeah, it does. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well sharene I thought that today I would just like

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Speaker 1: catch everyone up with all the animal news in the world.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait. Yeah, what's your opinion about whales? I

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Speaker 1: think they are magnificent creatures. But I know if I

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Speaker 1: was ever in an ocean and one was there, I

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Speaker 1: would break my pants, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 1: they're just like they're they're big enough to wear. They

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Speaker 1: are terrifying, you know, But I think they're amazing really,

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Speaker 1: Like there there are some creatures that are almost like

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Speaker 1: they remind you of the world before humans, Like they're

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Speaker 1: almost dinosaur age like. And that's why I feel like

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Speaker 1: about whales, it's like, oh, animals in the Earth, they

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Speaker 1: were here way before us, you know, Like I also

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Speaker 1: give it about us. They're so huge and different from us,

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Speaker 1: like in every way, the way they communicate their bodies,

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Speaker 1: and it's like they're still mammals but they're the size

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Speaker 1: of a building and they live underwater and their hands

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Speaker 1: are fins. It's bizarre. It's like, yeah, no, evolution doesn't

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Speaker 1: have like a preference for the human format. Noah, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna make a building a floating building underwater. It's objectively

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Speaker 1: cute to me that they have those blow blow holes

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Speaker 1: like and it's just like spurred out, that's adorable. You

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Speaker 1: cannot argue that that's like an adorable feature in a creature.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't even a yeah, I can't even design that.

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Speaker 1: You can't design that. It's just like yeah, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: this magnificent giant creature of the scene. It comes up

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Speaker 1: from the water and it's like, well, to make them

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Speaker 1: even more adorable. For I think the first time ever

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Speaker 1: there has been footage captured of whales hugging each other.

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Speaker 1: Like literally, I'm not saying like, oh, this is the version,

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Speaker 1: this is like the whale version of a hug or something.

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Speaker 1: I'm literally a hug. A camera drone recorded to North

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Speaker 1: Atlantic right, whales swimming fin and fin like one fin

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Speaker 1: over the other whales back. Have you ever just thrown

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Speaker 1: an arm around your friend's shoulder and they throw an

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Speaker 1: arm around your shoulder and go swimming on like a

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Speaker 1: big migration on the Atlantic Ocean. I just I just

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Speaker 1: looked at the video just now. I'm not playing it

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Speaker 1: with sound, but this is the new version of those

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Speaker 1: otters holding hands, you know, like I love that video.

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Speaker 1: I legitimately watched it at least once a month because

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Speaker 1: it's so cute and it gives you life. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: makes me happy and just like bhinds me my mom.

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Speaker 1: But um, this is the new version of that, just

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Speaker 1: reminding us the animals are so much better than us.

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Speaker 1: That's how I I mean, I do love those otters

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Speaker 1: holding hands, but this like literally would blow them out

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Speaker 1: of the water because there it's the size of two

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Speaker 1: thousand otters, that's true. Going fin and fin. The whales

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Speaker 1: were migrating from the Atlantic Ocean near the Caribbean to

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Speaker 1: the Atlantic Ocean near the northeastern United States and Canada,

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Speaker 1: where the whales go to give birth to their young

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Speaker 1: and to eat a huge amount of zooplankton because the

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Speaker 1: waters are very rich there with zooplankton. Researchers don't necessarily

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Speaker 1: know why they're hugging like this, but I do like

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Speaker 1: to think that their buddies, and they're just on their

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Speaker 1: And we know that whales are highly social and generally speaking,

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Speaker 1: quite friendly with one another, and that they communicate over

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Speaker 1: this as a friendly gesture, nuzzling up against one another

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Speaker 1: other and getting comfort. Yeah, it's just it's so cute cut.

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Speaker 1: It's also just like their belly to belly it's adorable.

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Speaker 1: And and I think this from reading this, right, these whales.

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Speaker 1: Whales are endangered, So I just think it's like, why

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Speaker 1: contribute to their endanger, you know, they are definitely endangered.

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Speaker 1: There's only about four hundred estimated to be left. Four

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Speaker 1: from hunting, from the fishing industry, and just the the

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Speaker 1: our general alv mint in making the water like uninhabitable basically. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, they are baling whales. So they are completely

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Speaker 1: gentle and harmless. They have that rigid row of bristles,

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Speaker 1: just filter out krill and zooplankton from the water so

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Speaker 1: they can eat it. Uh. And so they're very gentle giants.

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Speaker 1: And there they are giant there about forty fifty ft long,

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Speaker 1: which is thirteen to sixteen meters and they way up

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Speaker 1: a North Atlantic right whale. Do you think they're attempting

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Speaker 1: to mate here or what's the Do you think this

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Speaker 1: one article I just pulled up says that are a

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Speaker 1: I do feel like that is for humans. Sometimes you

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Speaker 1: For humans, we gotta invite you over to watch a movie,

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Speaker 1: you know, and then they put their hand around you

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Speaker 1: being like, you know what's going you know, you know

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Speaker 1: what you're getting into. You're going for a movie time, right, exactly.

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Speaker 1: But the heather hand side hug is it takes a

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Speaker 1: Gorillas aren't like gentle, but they are vegetarian and you

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Speaker 1: you know, right. Whales are they don't give a thing

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Speaker 1: Elephant will definitely mess you up if you get in

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Speaker 1: like it is. It's surprising to me that something like

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Speaker 1: have been things where an elephant will accidentally trample into

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Speaker 1: not step on anyone. Elephants. I love elephants also. I

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Speaker 1: mean this is a side note, but I always I

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Speaker 1: like when when they're they're dead. Yeah, it's so beautiful

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Speaker 1: I just there's something in about those rituals that like

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Speaker 1: because they have they seem to have an awareness of

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Speaker 1: with Obviously elephants can't really carry their young when they

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Speaker 1: it's hard to say whether or not that's an understanding

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Speaker 1: like I love my mom more than anything, like mommy issues,

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Speaker 1: They get separated somehow, or like the mother the cub

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Speaker 1: so sad. It's interesting because like that you you brought

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Speaker 1: up elephants because similar to elephants, in fact, even more

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Speaker 1: They can live up to seventy years old, but some

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Speaker 1: so yeah, they live a long time. And their age

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Speaker 1: them their age. That's rude. But they actually do an

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's okay sometimes we just save a stink

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Speaker 1: week and that's fine. I mean, I do understand the

425
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: message behind it is it's because like I don't think

426
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people understand the damage we're doing two

427
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 1: bees and how essential they are to our environment and

428
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: literally pollinating everything. Um, but I feel like I know

429
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 1: that it's like a I don't know a certain kind

430
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: of way to get people's attention. I just people that

431
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: go beyond the photo and understand like the reasoning behind it,

432
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: you know, Like that's that's what I hope. Yeah, I

433
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: think it was done with the very best intentions. She's

434
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: advocating for a women's beekeeper program run by the United

435
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Foundation. Apparently it's also funded

436
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: by uh Guerlan Guerraline. I don't know how to connec

437
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: the French cosmetics company, which makes me slightly suspicious, Like

438
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: is this some kind of like racket to collect bees

439
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: wax for like cosmetics? Are they just like you know,

440
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: what's going on. I think it's okay. I think it's

441
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: just for the positive press though, that this h cosmetics

442
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 1: company is doing it. But yeah, she she's like trying

443
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 1: to draw attention to the plight of bees that bees

444
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: are often endangered or even a threat of extinction due

445
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: to pesticides and climate change. And it's not just honey bees,

446
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: it's also native bees that are indigenous to UM like

447
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: the United States that actually honey bees were introduced to

448
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: the US, they're not an indigenous species UM and a

449
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: lot of our native bees are also in threat of

450
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: endangerment or extinction UM. And uh So I think like

451
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: the message is good. I do think sometimes though when

452
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 1: we proposed because like she's she has this like entrepreneurship

453
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: program for female beekeepers and it's like, well, that's or

454
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: entrepreneur entrepreneurship for women beekeepers. And I think that's great,

455
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: But I think that people need to realize that we

456
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: can't like necessarily entrepreneur our way out of this problem.

457
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: I think that there are, um we need huge solutions

458
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: to it, which is like, uh, you know, regulations on

459
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: pesticides and environmental protections so that we're not destroying their habitat,

460
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: we're not spraying a bunch of pesticides out there that

461
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: killed the bees, and also addressing climate change because that's

462
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: a huge force that is harming bees as temperatures rise.

463
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: We have like seen a direct decline in bumblebee and

464
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: honeybee populations. So I think that it's I think like

465
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: the message is great, like in the idea of like

466
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: having people doing like bee keeping and be preservation as

467
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 1: sort of this entrepreneurship. That's fine, but it's you're you're

468
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: helping for sure, but you're the responsibility that lies on

469
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 1: each of our individual shoulders is is kind of like

470
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: it's a small chunk of it, Like we need to

471
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: like collectively do a big thing in order to preserve

472
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: the environment. I mean, I agree, and I also think

473
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: like there is a responsibility individually because I do believe

474
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: in voting with your dollar if you're able to uh

475
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: like or expressing what the public wants. So I am

476
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: a huge environmentalist. It's a big reason why I stay

477
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: away from animal products and like all the other other off.

478
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: But like, I think everyone should just be conscious of

479
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: what they're of the impact they're having, because I think

480
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't really think twice about buying

481
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: twelve pounds of whatever. Like I don't think there's like

482
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,959
Speaker 1: a lot of understanding of like the what happens right

483
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: before it goes to the grocery store, and so I

484
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: think the more that we as consumers tell the companies

485
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: like what we want through what we purchase, that's the

486
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: only way a company will change. Because a company just

487
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: wants to make money, they'll do what's profitable for them.

488
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: So I think the individual stuff matters. But I also

489
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: agree that like we really have to build on that

490
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: and make a bigger, bigger, uh impact somehow. But I

491
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: will say I looked it up Gerlaine because I wanted

492
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: to know if they are cruelty free. They are not

493
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: cruelty free. That's I don't believe that they have good

494
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: intentions with their ethics behind um standing with this the

495
00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: b thing. And I like that THEYR exactly exactly do

496
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: what better gives them. At the end of the day,

497
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: corporations and companies, you don't trust them, They just do

498
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: what better than them. I knew to be suspicious, yes, exactly,

499
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: I don't at this day and age. You don't have

500
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: to test on animals. You don't need to support companies

501
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: that test on animals aren't cruelty free. There's just so

502
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: much out there that's a better option. I just don't know.

503
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: Absolutely no, I absolutely agree, and I think that it's

504
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: good to draw attention to bees and like like and

505
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: and if you want to cover yourself and bees, I'm

506
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: not gonna I'm not gonna stop you. But I think

507
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,479
Speaker 1: it is important, like when there's a feel good story

508
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: about this, to kind of look a little deeper into

509
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: the issue of like, you know, yes, it's great that

510
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: people are doing bee keeping. I think that's fantastic. I

511
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: love I love, you know, watching beekeepers and people who

512
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: are especially like when it's not just honey bees and

513
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: you're like helping facilitate the growth of native bee populations.

514
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 1: Obviously they're very important for for food and pollination and

515
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: for our agriculture, but like they're important for the environment

516
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: as well because they're not just pollinating our crops, they're

517
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: pollinating all so many fruits, you know what I mean,

518
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: it just goes they're cool as health. I love bees

519
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: so much, and it's I really want them to survive

520
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: because bees are rad I think people get overwhelmed with

521
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: how much that needs to be done. Honestly, when it

522
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: comes to the environment, there's like it's too late at

523
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: this point, it's a lost cause we've gone too far

524
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: in this lane or whatever. But I think that's not true.

525
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: I think the end goal is to make someone isn't

526
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: to make the whole planet plant based or like whatever.

527
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: I think the end goal is to just be conscious

528
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: of the food you're eating and what you're the impact

529
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: you're having on the environment, and what goes into the

530
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: food you're eating, like a pest, like pesticides that are

531
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: contributing to killing so many bee colonies, you know. So

532
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: I think the end goal is just to make people

533
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: conscious of, yes, what they're doing and the footprint they're having. Obviously,

534
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: I mean if that person is able, I know there

535
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: are um exceptions because of wealth and where you are

536
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: at the world. I would never fault someone for doing

537
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: what they can to like just live. But do you

538
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: have the privilege to choose and to vote with your dollar?

539
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: I yeah, no, I I agree. I think that. And

540
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: also I don't want people to feel paralyzed by the

541
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: idea that like, oh, we're so doomed, like the bees

542
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: are all gonna die and there's nothing we can do

543
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: about it, and solving these big issues is really hard.

544
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: It's like, no, nature is extremely resilient, and I think,

545
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: you know, something like bees will be able to bounce

546
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: back really spectacularly if we just give them some help.

547
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: But in more being news, yeah, more bean is this

548
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: is kind of fun. Sculptor Thomas Libertini is quote collaborating

549
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: with bees to make sculptures constructed from wire frames and

550
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: bee hives. Pretty cool. Yeah, collaboration seems a little generous,

551
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: as if the bees were like, yeah, here, it takes

552
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: some of it. Yeah, I don't think the bees like

553
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: signed signed off on this, signed a contract on this.

554
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: I feel like the bees could sue this guy because yes, um,

555
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: but it's it's from what I can tell, it's basically

556
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: he sets up a wire mesh in a shape like

557
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:35,959
Speaker 1: like various sculptures, like he's got vases, he's got the

558
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: first thing I see here, queen yes, yes, and then

559
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: just basically sets it up near the main bee hive.

560
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: Is so they're encouraged to continue constructing their honeycomb around

561
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: this wire frame. This whole face bust of Queen Nefertiti

562
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: constructed in natural honey home, and the bees just go

563
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: to work. And because the honeycomb is somewhat geometric, just

564
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,479
Speaker 1: naturally the way that it works, it looks like it's

565
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: been three D printed. Side note, honeycomb is rad like beautiful, beautiful.

566
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: There's a skull one where he had them do it

567
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: over the form of a of a human skull, which

568
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: is really metal. They're beautiful, and they can take over

569
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: two years and over sixty thousand bees working on it

570
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: to complete. I don't know, I don't really like that

571
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: you're wasting the bees time, like for some elitist art,

572
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: like what's the what's gonna happen to the effort that

573
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: they've put into this. I mean that's true, that's true

574
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: of any like even like when we have honey or something,

575
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: we are taking stuff from the bees. But on the

576
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: other hand, I kind of I don't feel too bad

577
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: about it because I think that he is he's basically

578
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 1: he's got this high that he just puts this wire

579
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: frame near so they have a lot of area where

580
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 1: the rest of the colony is. I think like on average,

581
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 1: the fact that like he seems to be taking good

582
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: care of these bees, Like, yeah, he is technically removing

583
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: stuff from the bees. I was kind of imagining again

584
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: as like you're there in a room and no they're

585
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: not like imprisoned in the in the sculpture until they

586
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: completed the rest of the hive. Is intact. He doesn't

587
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: like destroy the whole hive. And technically these sculptures could

588
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: last indefinitely as long as they don't melt like bees

589
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: wax and even honey lasts for thousands and thousands of years.

590
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: You could eat, you could have some bee honey that's

591
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: like thousands of years old. It's just like kind of yes, yes,

592
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: it has like it has I think, um, like kind

593
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: of antibiotic like or not antibiotic, but antibacterial. Yes, antibacterial

594
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: elms to it that preserves the honey and and and

595
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: bees wax is inert it doesn't. It's like, um, you

596
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: know it can last basically is as long as it

597
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: doesn't get melted, it'll be fine. So yeah, it's really

598
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: really cool, and it is it's kind of ironic because

599
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: like if you brought a hair dryer to the museum,

600
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: destroy these works of art, but if you if you

601
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 1: keep them in good condition, they could last for thousands

602
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: of years. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's pretty sick, pretty sick

603
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: to this guy. I mean, I also agree, like the

604
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: use of labor is questionable, but if it's worth the

605
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: attention that the cause is about, then I think it's worthy. Yeah,

606
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 1: it's all. It's all doing things in moderation and maintaining

607
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: the balance between what we take from nature and what

608
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 1: we're what we're giving back. Yeah, I think I agree, alright,

609
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: suring new glowing animal alert, blowing animal alert. I like

610
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: to keep everyone up to date on whenever we find

611
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: a new glowing animal. And we have and it is

612
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: called the pumpkin totlet. Cutest name name I've ever heard.

613
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, well, didn't look at them, because

614
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:27,479
Speaker 1: the name fits the baby. They're so so cute. They're

615
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: so vibrant and like they look a pumpkin. Their orange

616
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: and yes, oh my god, there's so little toady tody candycorns.

617
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: They just discovered these, are you just like yeah, so

618
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 1: they discovered a new species of these. Uh. Albeit, there

619
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: are thirty six other species of pumpkin totlets, so the

620
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: existence of the family of pumpkin totlets is well known.

621
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: But there is a new species of pumpkin totlet and

622
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: this one glows under are uv light. Toadlets are toads

623
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: but small. We love that so much. I just love

624
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 1: pumpkin toadlet together. But also to pumpkin totalt dune done,

625
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: dune done. Pumpkin totallet done done, dune done. So cool. Also,

626
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: like I would love to know the first impulse to

627
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: put fluorescent light over Like how how did they're just

628
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 1: doing it on tons of animals now because like they found,

629
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: they just incidentally found that animals we don't expect have

630
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: a fluorescence biofluorescence. Um, and so now we're just like like, well,

631
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: let's see if this one glows, and see if that

632
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: one glows, and sometimes they do. Yeah, no, it is,

633
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: It's great. Uh. So the new species is called breaky

634
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: breaky Cephalus rotten bear gay, which is the long name

635
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: pumpkin totlet. Better, yes, pumpkin pumpkin totlet. They're bright orange,

636
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: teeny teeny tiny toads about the size of your thumbnail. Uh.

637
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: Little babies, little tiny orange babies, and like they are

638
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: bright orange. Like I encourage everyone that's listening just google

639
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: pumpkin totalt. They are yeah, so vibrant, adorable. I'll have

640
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: a bunch of them in the show notes too, in

641
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: the in the dock of show notes that you can

642
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,959
Speaker 1: see some of my favorite photos of pumpkin totlets because

643
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: they are tiny, very tiny and small and also okay, okay,

644
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: it gets cuter, it definitely gets cuter. So they are

645
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: in Brazil's Atlantic Forest. So, like I said earlier, they

646
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: are thirty six other species of pumpkin totlet. They're all

647
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: bright orange, about the size of a thumbnail. They're super

648
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: bright because this is a pis semitic coloration. So their

649
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: skin and their organs are highly toxic, full of tetradotoxin,

650
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: which is the same stuff that is found in like

651
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: fugu fish organs, So it's bad to eat. You don't

652
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: want to You don't want to eat these, but you

653
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: also don't want to eat them because they're so cute.

654
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: Their ears are so tiny and underdeveloped that they can't

655
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: hear their own mating calls, so they don't lie on

656
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: visual The visuals of the vocal sack inflating, as well

657
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: as other signals such as mouth gaping, so opening and

658
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: shutting their mouth and arm waving. So basically little tiny

659
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: thumbnail size bright orange toadlets flapping and closing their mouths

660
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: and waving their arms in the air and being like

661
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: made with me, so like in their mouths. There's no

662
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: like gross teeth or like gross anything in there. It's

663
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: just like this little cartoon mouth like so so cute.

664
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: And also I just love that they're like waving their

665
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: hands and yeah, they don't even have ears or they

666
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: just don't work. It's just they just don't work. They're underdeveloped. Interesting.

667
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, so yeah, they're just waving their arms around,

668
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: going like come get to this. There's a word you

669
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: said earlier than I did understand their why are they

670
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: colored at this? Wait? That APIs semitism? So that is

671
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: warning coloration. So have you ever seen like the poison

672
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: dart frogs and their name is you know, basically do

673
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: it all? I want to look them up right now.

674
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: There's many colors of poison dart frogs. There's bright reds,

675
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: bright bright yellows. I don't understand how this is a

676
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: real animal, Like these colors are absurd, but yeah, very cool.

677
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: They are carnivores typically they yeah, they eat teeny tiny invertebrates,

678
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: so you know the pumpkin totlet or the pumpkin totlet's

679
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: eat tiny invertebrates or I guess insectivores is maybe more

680
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: more of a fair thing. So also they do not

681
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 1: have a tadpole stage, so their eggs hatch directly into

682
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: just inconceivably tiny baby totlets, which I guess would be

683
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: totalt let's totalt lets. Just teeny teeny tiny. That's so cute.

684
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: This new species of pumpkin totlet is smaller than it's relative,

685
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: so I think it's the smallest species of pumpkin totlet scovered.

686
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: It's got a shorter snout. It's like the pug of

687
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: the like the rent of the litter. As far as

688
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: so cute, it's very cute. So so, the toads are

689
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: sometimes bright colored to like warn other people or like

690
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: ward other animals of their toxic or yes, yeah, okay interesting. Yeah,

691
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: so these so all the species of pumpkin totlet are

692
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: this bright orange and they all have toxic skin and

693
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: toxic organs. So that is a warning coloration, and it's

694
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: it protects the toad because or the frog or whatever

695
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: animal has that warning coloration because basically a predator will

696
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 1: learn like when I eat this thing, I throw up

697
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: and it's really bad, and so then they won't hassle

698
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: them anymore. So yeah, because I feel like my impulse

699
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: is to be like, oh, camouflage makes more sense, you know,

700
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: like how it can Julien can like go away. But

701
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: it's an interesting like flip of that, right, it's like

702
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: to drawing more attention to them to be like don't

703
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: eat me exactly exactly because if you like, camouflage is

704
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: nice because then you don't have to invest in like

705
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: a toxin in your body, so you don't have to

706
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: make sort of the evolutionary investment of having to have

707
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: actually be toxic, so that that's one way to evade predation.

708
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: But if you do are able to get into that

709
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: niche where you can produce a toxin that will make

710
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 1: predators sick or even kill them, then you do want

711
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: that warning coloration. You want to be as noticeable as

712
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: possible because you're basically saying like, no, I'm not one

713
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: of the ones you want to eat. Uh. And so

714
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: what's interesting is you actually have mimics will mimic that

715
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 1: bright coloration who are not toxic. But you can only

716
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 1: have a certain amount of mimics because once you get

717
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: too many mimics, like basically it's this, it's a um.

718
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: You can't have too much noise in the learning process

719
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: for predators. So like say you have a bunch of

720
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: mimics that are mimicking the pumpkin totlet, and you have

721
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,479
Speaker 1: a predator eat plenty of them and not get sick,

722
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: then the warning coloration no longer works. So you you see,

723
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm not actually sure whether the pumpkin totlet has a mimic.

724
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: I don't, not that I'm aware of. But you see

725
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: this especially in butterfly populations where mimics species like, the

726
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: populations fluctuate somewhat so that the mimic species has always

727
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: kept in control because if they get too numerous, then

728
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: predation goes up, and then the both the mimic and

729
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: the true species population like goes down, and so you

730
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: get these like interesting patterns of population uh growth in

731
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: in uh and decreasing if if that, like the mimic

732
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: becomes too abundance. It's really it's actually there's like, yeah,

733
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 1: there's a lot of like complicated math that I don't remember,

734
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: uh that that goes into it. But yeah, um so yeah,

735
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: a little pumpkin toads uh, even though they're adorable and

736
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: bright orange, they are trying to scream at you do anything.

737
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: I know, I look tiny and delicious. They look like

738
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 1: little candy corns thing we kind of do. Yeah, that's

739
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: a very good color reference that brightens. But surprisingly they

740
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: do actually glow under UV lie. They floor ess. So

741
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: I think there are only two other species of pumpkin

742
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: totlet that biofluoress. So this is very exciting. So this

743
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: new the teeny tiniest of the pumpkin totlets also glow

744
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: under UV light. They have this like patch of skin.

745
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: It looks like these little bright blue glowy dots like

746
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: they're in the freaking Avatar movie or something. It's really

747
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: really cool. Are those are the things that are lit up?

748
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: Are those just like organs or like what's there's like

749
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: like a pattern on their body. Yeah, that's a good question.

750
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly what part of them is glowing.

751
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: I would suspect that they have some some sells, some

752
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: like pigment cells that that biofluoresce. But yeah, it does

753
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: look like it could. It's true, like their their skin

754
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: is They're so tiny that like their skin is somewhat translucent,

755
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: so I could imagine that some of the cells could

756
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: be like in or around organs and are glowing. But

757
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: it's so cool. Also, their legs their little legs are

758
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: just like especially the back ones, they're just kind of

759
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: like pointy things. They don't have like the three uh

760
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: in my in my brain, like what you what I

761
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: would imagine a toe foot or a toad foot to

762
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: look like right, yeah, there's little like pointy things. I

763
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: mean there, they do have toes. They're just so small

764
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: that it's like you can actually see the second toe

765
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: a little bit behind the frog with their arms or

766
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 1: their their front toes, like you can't see it's really

767
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: hard to see the smaller toes because they're actually trans

768
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: like translucent, like you can see through theirs because they're

769
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: so small. They're so cool. Yeah, what cute little guy.

770
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: They're actually not the smallest frog in the world. So

771
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 1: I know these are called toadlets, and they are toads.

772
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: Toads are all toads are frogs, not all frogs are toads.

773
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: So basically toads are a sub group of frogs, and

774
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: and basically toads have Toads have slightly different body shapes

775
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: and behaviors and frogs. They tend to crawl, not jump.

776
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 1: They tend to have a more like bulldog type body.

777
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: They often have rougher skin than frogs. But the smallest

778
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: frog in the world is actually the pedophrying amanusis or right,

779
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: no pedophrying ammun ammunists ammunion like pumpkin toadlets or now,

780
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: I don't I think I can find a cute name,

781
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: but we could just call them like little little little

782
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 1: pipsque pins squeakings. Yeah, that's good, little little little little

783
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: pee little pee frogs. We'll call them little peepe frogs

784
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: of Papua New Guinea forests. They are point to seven

785
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 1: inches or seven millimeters long, So they're smaller than like

786
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: the dude's face on a dime that's f d R

787
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: right on the dime. Yeah, smaller than the FDR's face

788
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 1: on the dime. Uh. And they are so small and delicate,

789
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: their hands are completely transparent, and they are the world's

790
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: smallest known vertebrate. Uh. Yeah, So we went from one

791
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: of the largest vertebrates in the world, the whales, to

792
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: the smallest little babiest. Yeah. I mean really imagine that, Like,

793
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: get out a dime right now and just imagine how

794
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: tiny this little creature is. That's so interesting. Yeah, it's

795
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: gonna be like it's gonna fit on your pinky nail. Wow,

796
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 1: and I want like now I want like little frogs,

797
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: frog designs on my nails. Yeah, painting on each of

798
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: my names and their colors just look really fascinating, Like

799
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: it's almost like a splatter painting, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,

800
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: Jackson Pollock who apparently they're so tiny researchers can't and

801
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 1: because they're not bright orange like the pumpkin toadlets, they're

802
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: very very hard to spot, so researchers can't just like

803
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: go looking for them. They have to pick up a

804
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: bunch of leaf litter and toss it in a bag

805
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: and then like kind of like look around the bag

806
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: to see if they've got one, because otherwise there's no

807
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: way to know where they are. They're too small, so cute,

808
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: They're very cute, very very cute. And do you think

809
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: small It is usually cute because like and actually big.

810
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: I mean I used to be kind of low key

811
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: afraid of toads because I saw this like back in

812
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: middle school, I saw this video of how Australia has

813
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: this very specific Yes, oh my god, they are so

814
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 1: terrifying looking or like just like I would I wouldn't

815
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: want to be around the stampede of toads, like there

816
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: are so many in Australia. So I was always like

817
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 1: weird up by toads, and then I got older and

818
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: I got rid of that aversion and these little guys

819
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: I can never be like they're just so cute hopefully. Yes, yes, no, yeah,

820
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: Cane toads are freaky though, so I don't blame you

821
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 1: for being afraid of them. They're they're big, they're big.

822
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: They they're an invasive species in Australia. I shouldn't have

823
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: done that. No, no no, no, I still I still don't

824
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,959
Speaker 1: like them. I think that that documentary or like whatever

825
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,479
Speaker 1: video I saw the amount of them that I saw

826
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: it in the street and every yeah, just like copping

827
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: along a marching army trying to take over Australia. We

828
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: actually talked about them on the invasive Species episode we

829
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 1: did a while back, and yeah, they are. They look

830
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: bad and they are, at least in the context of Australia,

831
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: really bad because they are they like kill some of

832
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 1: the native animals there, and they are because they actually

833
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: have toxic glands that makes it hard for predators seat

834
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: them because like if a predator tries to eat them,

835
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: and like then they get sick and they can die,

836
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: and so it's just like, yeah, they're they're nightmares. So

837
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 1: you're right to be You're right to be concerned. I

838
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: feel I feel good that Katie Golden is telling you this,

839
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 1: so I feel validated. I feel good. I mean, maybe

840
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: in their not in their natural habitat, I would say, like,

841
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: you know, we've got a respect, we gotta respect to chaintoad,

842
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: but when they're in Australia trying to take over the country. Yeah, exactly. Well,

843
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Speaker 1: thank you so much for being on the show today, Shrine.

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Speaker 1: I'm really glad you enjoyed the whale ear Wax conversation.

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Speaker 1: We've learned a lot about you, maybe maybe too much.

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Speaker 1: Maybe too much. I haven't said that one podcast ever,

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Speaker 1: or even like to most people I know, I've said

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Speaker 1: it to one person. So this is I'm sure you're

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Speaker 1: getting like some people are going to be grossed up,

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Speaker 1: but you're going to get a bunch of people who

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Speaker 1: are going to write in and be like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: me too. And I'm so glad she said that. There's

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Speaker 1: just something. I mean, I know people are out there

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Speaker 1: that know it's that also find it satisfying it just like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. There's dozens of you, there's dozens of you,

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Speaker 1: there are dozens of me out there. Come find me.

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Speaker 1: I'm just here. I'm here, I'm waiting. Yeah, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not into it, but I respect it. I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 1: it feels perfect that I was here for the real wax.

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Speaker 1: Your babe brought you here exactly. But go ahead, and sorry,

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Speaker 1: I don't know just I was gonna, well, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I interrupted you as you were thanking me. It's okay.

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Speaker 1: It's hard over zoom to like, yeah, no, let me

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Speaker 1: thank you, let me thank you. Shut up, shut up,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna thank you, thank you so much. But for real,

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Speaker 1: thank you for having me. I had a lot of um.

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Speaker 1: I just love animals and I love to talk about animals.

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Speaker 1: To think, oh you are an absolute delight. Uh and

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Speaker 1: tell people where they can find you so they can

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Speaker 1: experience more of the Sharine experience. Cool. Uh yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at Shiro hero six six six. That's like, uh,

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Speaker 1: can I spell h E E R O H E

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Speaker 1: R O six six six? That was we're talking to

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Speaker 1: myself all right, right right? That was okay, feel like, no,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, to spell on this podcast, there's no rule

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Speaker 1: against it. Yeah, and that Instagram is just Shiro Hero

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Speaker 1: so Shiro Hero on Instagram, hero Hero six six six

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. Oh along on this crazy journey of me

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Speaker 1: watching your wax videos at two a MN and definitely

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Speaker 1: check out Ethnically Ambiguous with three and also Anna, who

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Speaker 1: we just had on the podcast not too long ago.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's a great podcast. And and you

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Speaker 1: guys talk about some really important issues. So and you

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Speaker 1: can find uh the Pipe podcast on the internet at

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Speaker 1: Creature Feature Pod on Instagram at Creature feet Pod on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: That's f e a T note eat has something very different.

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Speaker 1: And you can email me your questions, your concerns if

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Speaker 1: you secretly like to watch ear wax extraction videos and

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Speaker 1: Feature Pod at gmail dot com. And thank you so

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Speaker 1: much everybody for listening. If you enjoyed the show, please

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Speaker 1: leave a rating or review. I read all of them,

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Speaker 1: I enjoy them. They make my day and they do

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Speaker 1: actually help the podcast and the algorithms and so on,

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Speaker 1: So thank you so much for everyone who does that.

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Speaker 1: And thanks to the Space Costics for their super awesome song.

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Speaker 1: Ex Alimina Creature features a production of I Heart Radio

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Speaker 1: Why have you listened to your favorite shows? I don't judge.

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Speaker 1: Even if it's in between you watching ear wax videos,

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Speaker 1: that's totally fine. See you next Wednesday.