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Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast reports for Spring training in February.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansons and I'm joined by roof

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Speaker 1: Field teaming even with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, Connie

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Speaker 1: Fox and Greg Rosenthal. What is up? People? This is crazy.

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Speaker 1: We haven't do this in a while. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people here, this is fun. I haven't been on a

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Speaker 1: pod with west in months and months and months. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we were just talking about that time. Do you have

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Speaker 1: to leave early for this one. No, you have This

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Speaker 1: is weird. All seven of your shows are taking a

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Speaker 1: nap for dirt. This is like, you know the Avengers

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Speaker 1: when all the super people come together. Am I doing

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Speaker 1: this right? Seem to have a high opinion to your something.

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Speaker 1: I was really talking about a total parallel. It's great.

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Speaker 1: I don't have to get on a plane for the

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Speaker 1: first time in twenties six weeks. I think, yeah, I know,

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Speaker 1: I want to rant against the Shadowy League figures for

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Speaker 1: a second um the third floor. I still got much

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Speaker 1: use for them. It will just be honest, because they

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Speaker 1: always stand in the way of greatness. I would have

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Speaker 1: loved to listen to Colleen doing Cardi b on live

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Speaker 1: they did it live. Why was that shocked that they did?

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Speaker 1: For people that don't know, Colleen would covered the Eagles

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Speaker 1: victory parade in Philly during a commercial, you went into

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Speaker 1: a little with Bodak Yellow. Yeah, Cardi B came on,

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Speaker 1: for the people that didn't get to hear it, and

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Speaker 1: since we can't play here, can you now do it here?

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Speaker 1: I heard myself on the broadcast and that's enough. You

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Speaker 1: The version I posted on Instagram is a lot better

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Speaker 1: her out on Whether Sports. Like I was a really

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Speaker 1: what was that play known as what is it known

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Speaker 1: as now famous the Philly Special? Of course, the Gutsy.

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Speaker 1: It's the player that people remember from this game more

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Speaker 1: than anyone. Uh. And super Bowl fifty two, fourth down

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Speaker 1: at the yard and a half line and Doug Peterson

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Speaker 1: and Nick Foles put their heads together, is actually Nick

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Speaker 1: foles idea? And uh the trick play that leads to

433
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Speaker 1: Nick Foles catching the touchdown pass Eagles in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: All that good stuff. Sure did say it again? Say

435
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Speaker 1: it again? Listen. I don't want Greg to get any

436
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Speaker 1: more angry at me. They already got the scientist lap

437
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Speaker 1: thing going on watching Colleen hosts that parade and just

438
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Speaker 1: the magic like the fact that you got a host

439
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Speaker 1: the parade television or your team wearing the Super Bowl

440
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it made up a percent for the pages,

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Speaker 1: but it was a beautiful thing to see. Like it's

442
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Speaker 1: an amazing moment, not just for the whole city. I

443
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Speaker 1: don't know I buy that or that that it made

444
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Speaker 1: up for it at all. I said absolutely, And like

445
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Speaker 1: it's a team also that I really like. I picked

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Speaker 1: the Eagles to win this division. I root for the

447
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Speaker 1: Eagles basically every every single season, So it's nice that

448
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Speaker 1: it's true you you were back a table for the

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Speaker 1: Eagles for many years. You got all right, it's not

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Speaker 1: why we the reason I bring it up, No, the

451
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Speaker 1: reason I bring it up it's on your behalf, Mark,

452
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Speaker 1: because I just want to surface this and I I

453
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Speaker 1: am uh not involved. I'm not going to pitch it

454
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Speaker 1: one way or the other. But um, the one thing

455
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Speaker 1: about your sandwich prop that you made for the Super Bowl,

456
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Speaker 1: and what it was was a play in Super Bowl

457
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Speaker 1: fifty two receives a nickname and tops the helmet catch.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna throw it out there that I don't

459
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Speaker 1: think this necessarily top the helmet catch. I'm not making

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Speaker 1: that case. But now with a little bit more you know,

461
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Speaker 1: hindsight type situation, we could see that this is now

462
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: going to be a famous play in NFL history, at

463
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Speaker 1: least in this or the NFL. Did Mark win the prop?

464
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Speaker 1: Bet wes It was great call by Mark, but no,

465
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Speaker 1: if this play had happened in the final couple of

466
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Speaker 1: minutes of the game and took the lead for the Eagles, sure,

467
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Speaker 1: but after this play happened it was before halftime. First

468
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Speaker 1: of all, they lost the leads, then they lost the

469
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Speaker 1: lead in the fourth quarter, and they needed more good

470
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Speaker 1: plays to overcome it. The helmet catch was first of all,

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Speaker 1: more improbable, more incredible, more unbelievable, and was the deciding

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Speaker 1: play in that game. This was not the deciding play

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Speaker 1: in the game. Absolutely incorrect. No, no hold on. Here's

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Speaker 1: the thing. I've seen this all pop up on Twitter,

475
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Speaker 1: and here's what I did. I simply did not get involved.

476
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Speaker 1: Because you had a very strong heat seeking take out

477
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Speaker 1: of the gate. Everyone's got all these strong opinions. I

478
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Speaker 1: actually don't think that it officially topped the helmet match

479
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Speaker 1: in the way that and the way that I wrote that.

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Speaker 1: It didn't in the spirit of the fact that I

481
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Speaker 1: came close did a great job. It came pretty close

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Speaker 1: because you cut, you come out of sue other spols

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Speaker 1: with no title title play at all, So I came

484
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Speaker 1: a little bit close. Didn't get close enough. In my defense.

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Speaker 1: In addition to the searing take, I prefaced it with

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Speaker 1: I appreciate trust me, though. It's like I like, I

487
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Speaker 1: logged onto Twitter and they're like eight hundred things about

488
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Speaker 1: like West battling those plays said, I'm not getting involved

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Speaker 1: in MS this when that I was tracking that and

490
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Speaker 1: but but Mark, you know I had your back there.

491
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Speaker 1: I just threw it out there. Maybe it deserved conversation,

492
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Speaker 1: but it would be wrong for me to come up

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Speaker 1: with some wild lobby for it to be bigger than

494
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Speaker 1: the helmet. Catch it settled. That is settled. I didn't

495
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Speaker 1: get the trophy, I didn't get the sandwiches. Everything's coming

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Speaker 1: on um the podcast, or something I said on the

523
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: podcast and forgot about was resurfaced on Twitter today. A

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Speaker 1: guy named Patrick at LB three p T M A

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Speaker 1: N had set a reminder in his calendar that at

526
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Speaker 1: some point in the past history of our show, I

527
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: promised on today's date, February, we would have the Theology podcast.

528
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: Oh I'm not prepared for this today, and I'm not

529
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: saying that we I'm just saying that was the promise

530
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Speaker 1: that I made, and that means we made. I have

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Speaker 1: prepared a few thoughts on this subject. I know you've

532
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: always had them in the chambers. But um, the question,

533
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Speaker 1: I guess is, well, let's just I gotta second, Let's

534
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: get a little heavenly for a second, turn it up

535
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: for a little bit. And yet I feel relaxed. It's

536
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,239
Speaker 1: not yet, but it's what and you would sound like

537
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 1: if we were allowed to play anyway, I'm gonna use

538
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: a softer voice here the Theology podcast? Is it time?

539
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: Theology podcast? Now that you mentioned time, what is time?

540
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: We don't have a whole lot of it. I want

541
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: to do it. It's fine, not in the middle of

542
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: this show. It deserves all right. I'll open it here

543
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: and then you guys can describe the full show. Uh,

544
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: what's power? Rank the religions and also potential busts. This

545
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 1: include all dead religions or only ones that people are

546
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: currently killing in the name of what religion is a

547
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: potential bust. Let's open it up to the floor, start

548
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: with college. I'll throw scientology out. There is a potential bust.

549
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: I feel it's been unmasked does that even care? That's

550
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: Marks that said that, by the way, Teams your Volta

551
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: greg any thoughts potential. I'm trying to think of some

552
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: religion and you have some truly have I would like

553
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: to truly have a theology podcast discussion. I think it

554
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: would deserve more than a couple of minutes in the

555
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: middle of the show that I think it. Save it,

556
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,719
Speaker 1: Save it for the theology podcast. Hot take here all busts.

557
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: All of them are busting atheism. Okay, that's a tease.

558
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: It's some would say that would be kind of a

559
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: gutless take though, it's all they're all human constructs. Interesting, Mark,

560
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not really I'm not gonna you

561
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: guys asked by the way, I'm talking to the audience

562
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: that you guys asked for this particular conversation for four

563
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: years on, we're not really delivering. It's also Ash Wednesday,

564
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: on the same Valentine's Day? Are you going to get ashes? Dan?

565
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: My mom's listening. I can't tell you. This is amazing,

566
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: but I love you. UM need to be a good

567
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: Catholic boy. And what are you giving up for lent? Then?

568
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: Dan Gatorade, I always just give up Gatorade, even though

569
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Speaker 1: I don't really drink it anywhere. I used to give

570
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Speaker 1: it up in college and it was a big deal

571
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: because I love Gatorade, just to give it up anyway,

572
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: I don't really drink it anywore how about you? Oh

573
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Speaker 1: um Sugar gave up Catholicism for lent Um. All right,

574
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Speaker 1: so we'll save it for the rest of it for

575
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Speaker 1: the Theology podcast coming up February two night. No, I

576
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Speaker 1: think we need to do in the middle of the summer.

577
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: That's the problem. A nice summer podcast, all right, we

578
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Speaker 1: need to reach I'm trying to figure out when they

579
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Speaker 1: kid July. It's not going to be a thousand all

580
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: of a sudden, It's like I'm hosting and podcast. All right,

581
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: there you go. So there's a little teaser for the

582
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Speaker 1: Theology podcast. Hope everybody enjoyed it. Um Hot takes from

583
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Speaker 1: West Uh Connie lied about lent and uh Mark and

584
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: big no comments confession. Yeah, all right, I took down scientology.

585
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: I think that was that was actually the foundational Yeah,

586
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: Team Travolta again, Team Cruise. I just say I have

587
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: questions and like and like religious activity, you know, throughout

588
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: my life, I was not involved, really podcast, not really

589
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Speaker 1: your nay, just wasn't this is a real holy group.

590
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: Wasn't involved? Never came up. You weren't raised in any religion. Really,

591
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: I had never went to any sort of service or

592
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: anything like that, now I was. I mean, I grew

593
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: up in an Irish Catholic town, but my parents, no,

594
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Speaker 1: I was never I've never been. I've never been to

595
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Speaker 1: a place of worship. It never really came up in

596
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Speaker 1: our house. And you also said you never went to

597
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: a gym ever, what not to work out? Interesting? I mean,

598
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: I've been to like hotel. I've never worked on the

599
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: equipment at the gym other than the tread mill. Tread

600
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Speaker 1: famously has never lifted away, never lifted anyway. All right,

601
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Speaker 1: speaking of Greg Um, sometimes some peculiar natures about Greg,

602
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: but we we love him, and there's not a peculiar

603
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: about this banger that gregorrown a two part banger on

604
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Speaker 1: the website, uh called prominent but well you rode this

605
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: is Greg's corner. But in the entire interest you wrote

606
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Speaker 1: a two part um column a f C and NFC

607
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: players of prominent nature who could be cut? And uh,

608
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Speaker 1: why don't we kind of just go through some names, Greg,

609
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: and you kind of well, kind of run a lot

610
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: of this through you, Greg, but it's a it's an

611
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: open conversation for all, um, Greg, why don't we start

612
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Speaker 1: with this, Who to you is the biggest name, the

613
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Speaker 1: big is fish that could end up entering the free

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00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: agency pond uh in the next weeks month. That's a

615
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: good question. I think Dez Bryant is the one that's

616
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: been talked about the most like in terms of has

617
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Speaker 1: the highest profile and has a legitimate chance of being released.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's the type of move that the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys never make, and so that it's not a move

620
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: I expect the Cowboys to make. I think they'll find

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Speaker 1: a way to come up with some sort of compromise

622
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Speaker 1: where in reality he does kind of take a pay cut,

623
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Speaker 1: but it's couched as an extension where it lowers his

624
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Speaker 1: cap and he can make it back and incentives. And

625
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Speaker 1: I think he wants to stay, and I don't think

626
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Speaker 1: the Jones family really wants to give it up. But

627
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Speaker 1: they decided to make this a huge issue when right

628
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Speaker 1: after the season, in in a very telegraphed maneuver, Stephen

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Speaker 1: Jones said, I'm not sure about Dez. I'm not sure

630
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Speaker 1: about his future, and Jerry Jones said, well, you know

631
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Speaker 1: he's he's been part of the problem. We need more

632
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Speaker 1: big plays, so they made this a bigger story. I

633
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Speaker 1: think that it would have been already and not just

634
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Speaker 1: big plays. That he's been an issue on the sideline

635
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Speaker 1: with some of his histrionics. I mean, I thought they

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Speaker 1: went out of their way to say, this is why

637
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Speaker 1: you're not as valuable to us as you once were,

638
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: which is basically to me, take a pay cut or

639
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: take a walk. It's early negotiating employment. Brian had very

640
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: strong words saying that he would not take a pay

641
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: cut right after the season two and so you know

642
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 1: we can see I judge cuts and releases how big

643
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: they are by how weird it would be to see

644
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: player X in a different uniform and seeing Dez Bryant

645
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: in anything but a Cowboys uniform. He puts me at

646
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: the top of this list. I think he sits at

647
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: the top of this list. So it's any like the

648
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: biggest name in free agency besides Kirk Cousins. Well just

649
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 1: I guess like guys that guys that could get really

650
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 1: attached to a team under contract for next year or beyond,

651
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: but could end up getting cut before free agency starts.

652
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: So another like another big name out there. Greg Another

653
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: example would be like Brandon Mark. There's some obvious ones

654
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: that are big names. Brandon Marshall, I think is a

655
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: no doubt he's gonna get cut. You're gonna go a

656
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: job Marshall. He couldn't broadcasting his career, Gonna leave New York,

657
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: don't His career might might be over. DeMarco Murray is

658
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: one that I would be stunned if he stayed on

659
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: the team. Tyrod Taylor is is one. Where are are we?

660
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: The Bills are gonna let him go? Would any team

661
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: actually think about trading for Tyrod Taylor? He's do eighteen

662
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: point five million. Everyone assumes they want to get rid

663
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: of him. I don't know, are they really gonna be

664
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: Why would anyone assume that because we assumed it last

665
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: year to year it didn't happen. But this year he

666
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: said he's not going to take a pay cut, So

667
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: I think he'll be a starting quarterback elsewhere. He's had

668
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: such a weird relationship with the Bills and vice versa.

669
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: I mean for the whole time he's been there. It

670
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: seems like it seems like it would just be healthier

671
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: for everybody if he started over. Um yeah, so uh

672
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: de Marco Murray, who had a really good first season

673
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 1: in Tennessee. He's gonna be a big name out there,

674
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 1: but he feels like also a guy on the wrong side, Colleen,

675
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: a guy that was beat up. His body was beat

676
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: up last year, and he maybe didn't have the same burst.

677
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: I don't know he's gonna have a big market either,

678
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: especially if you have Derrick Henry there, who clearly was

679
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: the more productive running back and a new head coach,

680
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 1: I mean, Mike Rabel. I don't know if I'm him

681
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: and I see both of these, So yeah, you don't

682
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: need both of them and there, and they're gonna be

683
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: plenty of It's hard for aging running backs who don't

684
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: play special teams or really do much, you know, to

685
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 1: get jobs. Adrian Peterson is on this list because he's Martin.

686
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: He's still under contract for the Cardinals. I believe he'll

687
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 1: get cut. Doug Martin will certainly get cut by the Bucks,

688
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: you know. And then there's guys like Frank Gore who

689
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: are free agent. I mean, it's it's tough for all

690
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: of these guys to get jobs. I think Peter could

691
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: get cut. I'm more interested kind of the the options

692
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: where the player is still good and it's you're not

693
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: sure what's gonna happen. The Packers are interesting to me.

694
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: That's the one that caught my attention to look at

695
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: their receivers and think, are they gonna bring back Jordy

696
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: Nelson and Randall Cobb or is it an either or scenario,

697
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: which is what I think a lot of people around

698
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 1: Green Bayfield. Yeah, it's a tough call too, because Jordy

699
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: Nelson obviously fell off the map once Aaron Rodgers uh

700
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: got hurt, but he also seemed like maybe he was

701
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: showing signs of decline either way, and I was a

702
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: year older. Aaron Rodgers is back, but as he's gonna

703
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: be worth the money At this point, defenses were already

704
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: treating Davante Adams as the number one receiver before Brad

705
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: Hunley took over for Aaron Rodgers. But I think you

706
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: do have to wonder how much of that Jordy Nelson

707
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: becoming one of the least productive receivers in the NFL

708
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: was the loss of Aaron Rodgers. Because they have that

709
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 1: unique chemistry and rapport that they it's hard to replace

710
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: with Brad Hunley. So he That's why he's intriguing to

711
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: me because I don't know if he can still play

712
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: or not. Cop to me, Mark has been kind of

713
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: a disappointed guy ever since he signed that contract. I

714
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: liked him a lot and thought he was like the

715
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: secret weapon of that team in a lot of ways,

716
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: and then the last few years and just never is click.

717
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: So I feel like, yeah, Greg, that was a great

718
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: choice to put him on the list. Thank you, John No,

719
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: it's totally electric a few years ago. I think they

720
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: have a massive front front office regime shift here. I

721
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: wonder if they're going to start to look at some

722
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: of these pieces that have been in place without any

723
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: questions around them differently, because I think they're gonna approach

724
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: free agency differently in the entire offseason process. And you

725
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: mentioned in the article Aaron Rodgers, his head would completely explode,

726
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: right if they got rid of a ball. Well both,

727
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: I think you it's it's good to you put or

728
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: because it can't be both your cleaning house. I think

729
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: if they both were unwilling to take a pay cut

730
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: that I think the team might be prepared to let

731
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: go of both, but Jordy Nelson has already kind of

732
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: telegraphed publicly that he'd be willing to take a pay cut,

733
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: that maybe he understands his value is not the same

734
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: and he'd like to stay there, which you would think

735
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: gives him the edge over Cobb to stay and because

736
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: of his connection with Aaron Rodgers, and they probably have

737
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: to move him to the slot a little more, which

738
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: is where Cobb plays. So again, it kind of only

739
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: makes sense for one. And don't forget they paid Davante

740
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: Adams number one receiver money, so suddenly the three of

741
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: those guys are combining for more than thirty five million dollars,

742
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: which is pretty crazy for a wide receiver crew. You

743
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: bring up players, and I agree, it's more interesting guys

744
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: that you don't know whether they're on their upside or downside.

745
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: Moe Wilkerson has done with the Jets. He basically tardied

746
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: himself out of town there. But also he was making

747
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: a crap ton of money for a guy who has

748
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: played very mediocre football ever since coming back from that

749
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: broken leg and getting all that money. However, he's still

750
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: a younger guy. I think he's twenty eight or twenty

751
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: nine years old. Um, before that leg injury, he was

752
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 1: one of the best and most versatile defensive linemen and football.

753
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: The Jets are done with him, but I could see

754
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: another team, you know, getting wooed by Wilkerson, who's gonna

755
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: say I'm I'm ready to like start over, and him

756
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: getting a big deal out of it. What do you

757
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: guys think? Was there some overlap between Mo Wilkerson and

758
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: Patton in New York? Wilkerson was, yeah, I think maybe

759
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: Green Bay Patton own running the Packers. I think with

760
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: guys like him, when you question their attitude, it's who

761
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: were the most successful under as a coach. So maybe

762
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 1: there is some I mean, he you're you're right, he's

763
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: only twenty eight years old and he'll be twenty eight

764
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 1: when the season starts. That's pretty that's pretty young. That's

765
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: a little There's a couple of Yeah, there's a couple

766
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: of these guys on this list. Robert Quinn really stands out.

767
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn is a fascinating case to me because for

768
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: one season he played about at a J J what

769
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: type of level, A very different player, but he played

770
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: at a defensive player of the year type level, and

771
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: he really hasn't had that type of season since. But

772
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: he's only twenty seven years old. Somehow still he's had

773
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: some injuries, so he feels older, and he's doing a

774
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: lot of money twelve million dollars this year, and he

775
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: would be a logical cut because I don't think he

776
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: played to that level. But maybe in today's NFL, when

777
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: there's all this cap space, it's like, maybe you just

778
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: keep Robert Quinn and see if he turns it around.

779
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: It's like, what do you gotta do with all this

780
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 1: cap space? That's one of my one of my new themes,

781
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: cap space is overrated. I think the teams that really

782
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: banked on building up cap space is some sort of

783
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: huge strategy are feeling like it was a bit of

784
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: a waste because the entire NFL has a ton of

785
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: cap space. There's more cap space than anyone really needs

786
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: at this point, Well, you end up wasting money or

787
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: overspending if you feel this pressure to use some of

788
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: these teams that have Cleveland's a hundred and ten thousand

789
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:22,959
Speaker 1: dollars million million, it's ridiculous. Like when you need a tackle,

790
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: let's say you need a tackle, there's literally not a

791
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: tackle available, So what are you gonna do with your

792
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: cap space? Very aggressive posture from Gregg A state of

793
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: Louisiana coaster looks like no guns. I love it. Here.

794
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: Here's the positive. Because it's better to have more money

795
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: than less money. I get what you guys are saying,

796
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: but let's use the Browns as an example. Let's say

797
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: they go all out for Kirk Cousins and they offer

798
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: that guy, you know, a hundred twenty million guaranteed. Even

799
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: after they do that, they'll still have more money as

800
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: much money as anyone else. Pretty much every team going

801
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: after you guys do that. Well, that's not exactly true, though,

802
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: I think so, because you have two teams in the

803
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: Jets and Browns, that have more money than anyone so

804
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: they can pay more. They can because they can't do

805
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: a contract that it would allow almost anyone to get

806
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: this year's cap. I don't think you can come up

807
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,439
Speaker 1: with a team that wants Kirk Cousins that couldn't pay

808
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: him the highest salary in NFL history by leaps and

809
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: bounds and still have plenty of cap without making cuts.

810
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: Vikings have fifty. Then if this is true, then what

811
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: are we doing here with the cap, what does in

812
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: the last couple I think five years ago, maybe this

813
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: was a different conversation it started to get jacked up.

814
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: That might be too high. If this is the real

815
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: conversation we're having that it doesn't matter like most players

816
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: start to get like quarterbacks, the quarterback salaries are gonna skyrocket.

817
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: Other salaries are. I think sky salaries should go up.

818
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: The players have deserved it. Basically, let's dig one level deeper.

819
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: The fall off and the quality of play in the

820
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 1: NFL is directly related two teams failing to pay established veterans.

821
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: They don't pay them anymore unless you're top of the

822
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: line high guy. If you're a mid tier starter, you

823
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: don't get paid. People would just rather go with f picks.

824
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll start to see some of those guys get

825
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: paid again in the quality of football will go up. Greg,

826
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: you got a little spooked and you didn't put this

827
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: gentleman on your list, But we're gonna bring it up

828
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: right now on the show. Honey Badger in Arizona. I

829
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna get possible. I didn't. I don't

830
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: think he's gonna get cut. So I didn't think he

831
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: fit on this list, and I might write about him,

832
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: uh separately. I think that he could be a trade candidate,

833
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: and his situation is really complicated because he's d nineteen

834
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed over the next two years if if

835
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: they decided to pick up the option in his contract,

836
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: and I don't think they felt like he played at

837
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: that level. But I'm like, how many honey Badgers are

838
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: there out there? I think, again, why not try to

839
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: keep him? See if he can regain that form another

840
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: year away from surgery. He did down the stretch this year.

841
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: He was a much different player from Thanksgiving on than

842
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: he was early in the season. But I think he

843
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: could be traded because they found someone they like in

844
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: Buddha Baker that does some similar things. It's a different

845
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: regime and he I think he would be very traitable.

846
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: What about another As long as we're talking about guys

847
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: who spooked Greg, what about in Dominican Sue? Is he

848
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: a guy who could be cut? Well? There are whispers

849
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: actually while we were taping this that Dolphins ownership is

850
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Speaker 1: that the people connected to Ross would be ready to

851
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Speaker 1: move on, potentially from Sue, who was at the time

852
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Speaker 1: of his signing was three years ago, no, three off

853
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Speaker 1: seasons ago, the highest paid player in the NFL, or

854
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Speaker 1: at least it'd be logical. But I did ask around

855
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: on that one, and it felt like it felt like

856
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Speaker 1: they weren't going to cut him, that they think he's

857
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: too good, that they've cut a lot of other people before.

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Speaker 1: So you're the a t N insider. I'm checking in

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Speaker 1: with other insid Thank you very much here N dot

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Speaker 1: com dot com dot com dot com. And you said,

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Speaker 1: by the way, Greg before that I haven't broken anything

862
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Speaker 1: in a while. I can't remember who got that exclusive

863
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 1: on the field after the Super Bowl with Colleen Wolf?

864
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Speaker 1: Who else had Connie right after the super Bowl? Hit me, lindsay, wait,

865
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Speaker 1: I'll give it to you. But you essentially just spoke

866
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Speaker 1: to your friend on the field. That was one of

867
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Speaker 1: my another way to put it, was one of my

868
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: favorite moments in our podcast history, you know, So I

869
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: I gave you all the credit for that. I was

870
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: just wandering around and I saw Dan and I was like,

871
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Speaker 1: thank God, someone I know someone it's clothes broke news

872
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Speaker 1: and I want a sandwich off that because I'm the

873
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Speaker 1: one person that said that you would, Oh yeah, so

874
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Speaker 1: what's so what's happening here? I don't know. That was

875
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Speaker 1: Patra's uh prop not mine? How you get up with Patrick?

876
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Speaker 1: How subpar would that drop me? If the dolphins weren't involved.

877
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Speaker 1: The great law sid uh doing her thing right now

878
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Speaker 1: in uh b y b y U former podcast producer,

879
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: our former podcast. It was her idea to put the

880
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: dolphin killer singer. Yeah, unfortunately, I have to say the

881
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: best singer in the history of this podcast that it's fine.

882
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: I wasn't singing, I was rapping. Did you hear she

883
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: literally sang the national It was awesome? Did you hear

884
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: Lindsay actually did her own version of Odds and Ends

885
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: last week? No? I didn't hear. Check it out? All right?

886
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: Was it this? What day? Was that long last Thursday?

887
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: And thank you for listening to our show calling that

888
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: was that was the parade day? You guys heard she

889
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Speaker 1: was hosted. I had already started by celebrating. We didn't

890
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Speaker 1: expect you to listen to it live. Yeah, that would

891
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Speaker 1: have been really weird. Um, Okay, anything else great? Anybody

892
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: else WO want to throw out there? I think the

893
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: Broncos are really interesting with a keep to leave because

894
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 1: he's still playing at a very high level. But the

895
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: buzz seems to be that he's gonna get cut, which

896
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: is surprised. I mean, he's gonna be turnee thirty three,

897
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: but he was still playing great and then there's some

898
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: hot and and Ian Rappaport said, the belief is that

899
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders will stick around with the Broncos, but I

900
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: think there was some thought that maybe he would be

901
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: dangled in a trade and he would be he would

902
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: be a high quality player to be out there. I

903
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: think he can still play. But their receivers went from

904
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Speaker 1: being arguably the best one to punch in the NFL

905
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago to being last year. It

906
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,959
Speaker 1: seemed like a competitive liability. I thought so. I thought

907
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: they looked really old last year, the two of them together,

908
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: and Emmanuel Sanders dropped a lot of passes for a

909
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: guy whose hands were phenomenal in two thousand fourteen. Maybe

910
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: it's not that crazy for him to be traded. Then, well,

911
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: he's playing through injuries too. You never know what guys

912
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 1: who are twenty nine or thirty, whether it's a sign

913
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: that they're towing the cliff or whether it's just a

914
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Speaker 1: bad season and they bounce back the next year, and

915
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: John Elway didn't exactly give them a vote of confidence

916
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Speaker 1: either when he was asked about them at the Senior Bowl.

917
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Speaker 1: I'm I want to see what your Eagles do they

918
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Speaker 1: have And they're the literal the only team Colleen over

919
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: the salary cap right now. And and usually you look

920
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: at a roster like that and think, oh, there's a

921
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: lot of dead weight. Their problem is they have too

922
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Speaker 1: many good contracts practically ever there ten million over there.

923
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Speaker 1: They won't be able to keep Trey Burton, which practically

924
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Speaker 1: which is a great problem to have. I don't see

925
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 1: a lot of overvalued contracts on that team. They mostly

926
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Speaker 1: look like people are getting what they're worth. Tori Smith.

927
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Speaker 1: Maybe you get rid of Brent Selik might retire. It

928
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: won't be hard for them to get under but they're

929
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Speaker 1: not going to be very active and they might have

930
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Speaker 1: to make a tough choice or two. So there you go,

931
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 1: check it out. Trade them away. That would be surprising, right,

932
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: They have amazing insurance there. With their star quarterback coming

933
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: off a c L injury could happen, though I think

934
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Speaker 1: it happened right trades. That's the good thing about this.

935
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: All this cap spaces teams are. It's easier to just

936
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Speaker 1: make sure crazy trades. Tell Mike Glennon how great it is.

937
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna be cut. Greg with these coasters. You're

938
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: killing me the whole show. I got a picture of

939
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: you just around. You know. Sometimes I like to throw

940
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: out a new kind of slogans for the NFL. That

941
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: one was very organic. Ready, the NFL, it's a crazy league.

942
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: That's that's good. Okay, I like that as always. I

943
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: don't I'm not hurt if you don't like it. It's

944
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 1: I like that. I thought you were going to say

945
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: the NFL anything can happen. I feel like Vince McMahon

946
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: might actually use that for the XFL. You know, Union

947
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: Lindsey mad at you. That's that's Uncle Vince. I mean

948
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: the league that will never happen. No Triple h is

949
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: Uncle Paul, Vince's Grandpa's before we go? Where are we

950
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: at with the Chris Westling save our Westling? Uh? I

951
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: said that save feris? Yeah, where are we at? Because

952
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: I know the listeners and not just the listeners. Also,

953
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: the football Cogna Centi have really stepped up. Yeah, it's

954
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: been incredible since we announced the uh GO fund me

955
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,720
Speaker 1: to anyone who didn't hear about it for Chris's medical

956
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 1: costs on this podcast. And then we sent a couple

957
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: of tweets out right around when the podcast came out

958
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 1: that as we're taping this that was less than forty

959
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: eight hours ago. In in less than two days, we

960
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: are almost at Wes's goal. We we by the time

961
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: people listen to this and everyone should you know, go

962
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: to the go fund me search for Chris Westling's name,

963
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: or check out my Twitter or anyone else's Twitter in

964
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: the last few days. Uh, you can put us over

965
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: the top, because I think I think it's gonna happen.

966
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: It happens time you here. This will probably be over

967
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: the top. We are right there. It's overwhelming, don't you.

968
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: It's overwhelming for me by proxy, just like looking how

969
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: it makes you feel good about the human the human

970
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: people out there. Yeah. I've often said that cynicism is poison,

971
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: and there's no there's no better thing in my life

972
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: that's ever happened than to see this outpouring of love

973
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: and support. And it's overwhelming. It's an emotional overload for

974
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 1: me and it and it happened in a week where

975
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: the other night was the most pain I've been in

976
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: since surgery. There are still issues with eating and drinking,

977
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: and there are setbacks. Um. You know, for all the

978
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: Europeans who have questions about our health care system, it's

979
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: not that the NFL's insurance hasn't paid for a lot

980
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: of it. They have. It's just that there are a

981
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: lot of costs that have come up along the way.

982
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 1: The vocal cord injections that I paid for out of pocket,

983
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: there are uh issues with the rental equipment on on

984
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: feeding tubes and all kinds of just cost that you

985
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: don't even imagine happening. And and I am so appreciative

986
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: of everyone of the sport, of the messages people have

987
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: left along with the money. It's just it's overwhelming for me.

988
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 1: And I'll probably sit down and have a big cry

989
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: at some point. Thank you to everyone, good stuff, Thank

990
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: you everyone that's done it. Because the listeners especially have

991
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: stepped up. You're right, a lot of great people around

992
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: kind of the industry who suspect West have as well,

993
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: but a ton of listeners, including Ton over season, these

994
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: are the best listeners. It's cool. It's almost like a gift,

995
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: and a lot of it was thank you us for

996
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 1: what for kind of what you've given them in terms

997
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: of entertainment over in the podcast, and they're happy to

998
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: have somewhere to help. Oh, it's it's amazing what it

999
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: can mean to people who just know, Like people who

1000
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: grew up with me have read some of the comments

1001
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: and have said they started crying, and you know it

1002
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: just you know, my brothers and my mom when they

1003
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: see that stuff, they love it. The paramore has you know,

1004
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: you know that that she raised me up a few

1005
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: levels in her eyes just seeing that stuff. You know,

1006
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: she's gotten emotional. I I guess a few times. Yes, okay,

1007
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 1: great news, great stuff real quick. When when we first

1008
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 1: saw this, I said to John, I'm like, oh my god,

1009
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: they have a go fund me for West And John

1010
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: was like, give him a bank account, give him, just

1011
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 1: give him everything. Is he the money man in your family?

1012
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: He's not. He's not great managing the money. Him a

1013
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 1: bank aco ate. Just just so everyone pull back the curtain,

1014
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: open the kimono. Colleen and Gonzo living a shelter and

1015
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: sent him monic because of Gonzo's out of control. John

1016
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:15,439
Speaker 1: rend a switch writer, was married anfil media broadcaster College Wolf.

1017
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: John who is a pisces resides in Los Angeles with

1018
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: his wife and jew dogs. So there you have it.

1019
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: We will be back on Friday. Uh um and just

1020
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: wanted to bang that um U r L at one

1021
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: more time in case we don't go over. Yeah, go

1022
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: go fund me dot com slash Chris Wesleyan takes out

1023
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: the Big Sea. But if you again, it's on Twitter

1024
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: link and or just search Chris's name on go fund me.

1025
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: We will be back on Friday with our third show

1026
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: we just found. Roger Goodell sends an email out of

1027
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: company wide email saying that hey, everybody, take the freaking

1028
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: day off. That's actually in the email. Yeah, he's send

1029
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 1: it out to Hey, yo, it's Frog take the freaking

1030
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: day off, signed Frog, And uh, you know, we have

1031
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: a scheduled podcast and we have sponsorship, uh necessities in

1032
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 1: terms of scheduling, so we can't go anywhere. Well not

1033
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: everyone could just throw a responsibility out the window. I've

1034
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: been tracking this. This about the fourth year in a row.

1035
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 1: This has happened to us. The day to day off

1036
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: came to everyone except oh you, Friday afternoon never really

1037
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: applied to the media because it's not the media group

1038
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: which is like five people out here more because the

1039
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: website has to stay online, and that the network, the network,

1040
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 1: and and if it went down and all these little

1041
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: precious features went away from one day, what would happen?

1042
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: I always do wonder though, because you're right, he does

1043
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: this every year. And he said, you guys did such

1044
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: a great job in Minneapolis, Like you get this this

1045
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: day off. But at some point you know we've done

1046
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: a great job every year. Yeah, well, is it on

1047
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day? Every year? It's maybe is a really big

1048
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day? Guy? Well, Roger Goodell shares, uh, maybe he

1049
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: wants to get a long weekend because he shares a

1050
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: birthday with Chris Westling and and myself up the three

1051
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 1: of us. Everyone calls us the three amigos of the NFL.

1052
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: Roger Western. Yeah, President's Day, Monday, Wow, a lot of

1053
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 1: good stuff. Birthday stuff, fun birthday times. Everyone loves to

1054
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: celebrate funthday. Trying to get out of the show. Do

1055
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 1: your best fun Birthday times? What was your thing about? Human?

1056
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Speaker 1: Human people? Have really people? Subscribe to the Around the

1057
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Speaker 1: NFL podcast on Apple Podcasts or Google Play. We're Spotify.

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Speaker 1: signing off for a quiet Storm, the Mailman, Tiny Box

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Speaker 1: of the Old Boss, Deep Bolt time behind the glass

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Speaker 1: til Friday.