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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barria, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Day, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett coming soon to Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bowl Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's live on a Tuesday edition of Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Brown's Daily Merely Bow and Gibbe here on what is

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Speaker 2: becoming a rain soaked Tuesday. My friend, little brisk, I

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Speaker 2: feel like the whole week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I'm supposed to supposed to get called

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Speaker 3: fiving tomorrow and uh boy, Like last night I got

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Speaker 3: home and my grass was almost dry and I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: well it's soaking in and we'll be good. Not now, brother,

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Speaker 3: not great right now? Now there's some concern. No, it

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Speaker 3: is pouring pretty good. It has here all day. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's been.

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Speaker 2: It was nice this morning on the east side until

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Speaker 2: probably really it was nice even when I left. It

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Speaker 2: hadn't started raining yet on the Turnpike overs when I

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Speaker 2: got really it's when I first, guys got lucky. I

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Speaker 2: was about when I hit like seventy seven. At that

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Speaker 2: point is when the rain and then it was pretty rainy.

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Speaker 2: The rest of the way through, so and it's obviously

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Speaker 2: headed that way. We just we haven't had it yet.

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Speaker 2: Did you watch last night? Were you interested in this?

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Speaker 3: I did? I did up until I think it was

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Speaker 3: just a few minutes into the third quarter I fell asleep.

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Speaker 2: Okay, do you remember? I know that you do. There

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Speaker 2: was a for the audience out there there the sports

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Speaker 2: documentary The Last Dance, where you know, telling the story

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Speaker 2: of the Jordan titles with the Bulls in his time.

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Speaker 2: They're in credit popular. They had it in the can

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Speaker 2: and it dropped during the pandemic, so it was like

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Speaker 2: original content. My god, here's something no one's seen before.

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Speaker 3: And it was awesome.

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Speaker 2: It was great. It was really great. They had the

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Speaker 2: kind of the unfiltered version and then the made for

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Speaker 2: TV version, And one of the things that they did

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Speaker 2: in the series is they, in my opinion, they pumped

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Speaker 2: up the opponents that Jordan was facing. My contention has

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Speaker 2: been that he didn't beat a great team ever for

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Speaker 2: a championship, that there were a bunch of good teams,

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Speaker 2: but not great teams. And at that time in the league,

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Speaker 2: in the mid to late nineties, when he was winning

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Speaker 2: most of those titles, the early to most of the

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Speaker 2: nineties that the league was a little watered down that

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Speaker 2: it they added four expansion teams. At that time, high

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Speaker 2: school kids started coming into the league for the first time.

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Speaker 2: Full European assaants hadn't happened yet. There were a couple

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Speaker 2: backs up if you look at the teams that they

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Speaker 2: played for championship. So there was that one that was great.

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Speaker 3: The NBA finals were the Eastern Conference finals and your

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Speaker 3: past conference.

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Speaker 2: Right right, and even those like the Knicks teams, And

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Speaker 2: I guess this brings me to my point. They made

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Speaker 2: a big deal out of like this Indiana team that

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Speaker 2: they got by the last time. And that Indiana team

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Speaker 2: was fine. It had Mark Jackson and Antonio Davis and

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Speaker 2: Dale Davis and of course Reggie Miller. And in one

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Speaker 2: of the early games of that series, in the final

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Speaker 2: run of the of the Jordan Run, Reggie Miller hits

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Speaker 2: a three at the buzzer and all of us who

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Speaker 2: were watching remember this immediately, this was before gifts are

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Speaker 2: social or anything, that the camera went to Larry Bird

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Speaker 2: and Larry Bird was stonefaced, emotionless, like, yeah, that's what

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's supposed to make that.

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Speaker 2: He's supposed to make that shot. That's the way we

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Speaker 2: drew it up. That's what I felt like watching Joker

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Speaker 2: last night. So he at the end of the game,

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Speaker 2: he shakes hands with everybody from Miami. At one point givea.

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Speaker 2: He goes to find somebody who And I've watched this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys walking away. Yeah, he pulled him yep

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Speaker 2: That guy didn't play. And he embraced him and hugged him,

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Speaker 2: and away they go. And then they get him on

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Speaker 2: the mic and Lisa Salters is like begging for some

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Speaker 2: Like he just wants to go back to Serbia and

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Speaker 2: race horses. That's the whole operation. Then the post game, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they say when's the parade. He goes Thursday and he goes.

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Speaker 3: Oh, he just wants to go home, and he said

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Speaker 3: it again. He goes, I just want to go home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Serbia must be a hell of a thing, man,

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Speaker 2: because Denver, like Peyton Manning, had no ties to Denver

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Speaker 3: He was crushed that that parade is third really was

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Speaker 3: head in hand. He put his head down, head in hand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean, do you love

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Speaker 2: he loves it. I just think that for you mean,

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Speaker 2: second round pick. I started digging in on him. There's

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Speaker 2: he said they asked him about like basketball philosophy, and

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Speaker 2: he said, I'm paraphrasing here, but he said, essentially, it's

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Speaker 2: pretty simple. If they don't guard me, I score. If

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Speaker 2: they do guard me, I pass it. And that's kind

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Speaker 2: of the approach to it. I think he's just very

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Speaker 2: I think of all the things that have to happen

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Speaker 2: of our life, Denver has been irrelevant. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: The biggest moment was when to Kenby Mutumbo and the

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Speaker 2: They beat the Sonics. The Sonics were the one seed.

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Speaker 3: Something like that. Yeah, somewhere in there him laying down

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Speaker 2: Ball, yeah, and Kevin Matumbo shaking the ball like that

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Speaker 2: to remember. David Thompson, neither you, but you heard whispers

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Speaker 2: They had the alex English teams in the eighties, but

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Speaker 2: they were never really a threat for the for the Lakers,

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Speaker 2: and then they had Mellow in No. Three and they

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Speaker 2: had some decent teams then but never could get over THEMP.

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Speaker 3: And I had to pull it up to because I

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Speaker 3: don't want to do it in an injustice, but Schefter

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Speaker 3: tweeted out the moment that Djoki was drafted. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if you've seen it.

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Speaker 4: I have.

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Speaker 3: It's a taco bell commercial. It's in the middle of

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Speaker 2: For perspective, Like so I saw that they're doing like

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Speaker 2: an advertising, some sort of taco bell. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 2: case arito, my favorite things. It's off the menu, right,

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Speaker 3: It's not on the menu.

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Speaker 2: What's a case a rito? What do you get in that?

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Speaker 3: It's caso steak. Okay, it was, it was still on

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Speaker 3: the menu a few months ago. I have not seen

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Speaker 3: it since. Okay, but it you know, it's it's they

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Speaker 3: flattened it down and okay, it's a burrito, but with

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Speaker 2: I enjoy it, very good. But he outlasted it, yeah,

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Speaker 2: which is pretty remarkable.

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Speaker 4: He will.

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Speaker 2: He also feels like the answer to the trivia question

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Speaker 2: of like latest round best player ever, he's in a

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Speaker 2: very short I mean, it's like him and Brady Montana

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Speaker 2: was what a third or fourth round pick? Brady was sixth, Like,

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Speaker 2: there's a few of those guys that just for some

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Speaker 2: reason got missed, and he's now on that list of like,

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Speaker 2: how did all these teams pass.

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Speaker 4: On this dude?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I and I guess I don't know from

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Speaker 3: an NBA standpoint, but I feel like a lot of

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I guess I can see that. But I'm

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Speaker 3: also like he was overseas. I mean, when was he drafted.

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Speaker 2: He's I want to say it was like fourteen or

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Speaker 2: fifteen somewhere in there when he was drafted. He's still

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Speaker 2: in there. They're the overwhelming favor to win it again.

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Speaker 3: He's twenty eight years old.

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Speaker 2: Their whole teams in their prime. They have some young

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Speaker 3: Second round pick number forty one in twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And by the way, I mean, and he makes

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Speaker 3: thirty two million a year. It's not like he makes

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think his number has I don't think

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Speaker 2: he's gotten like the big deal yet.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think so either.

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Speaker 2: Because he'll get fifty or whatever. I mean, he's going

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Speaker 2: to get that whatever the max NBA is, that's what

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Speaker 2: he's going to get. Whenever it's up. Fifth straight year

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Speaker 2: of a new champion, you know, different.

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Speaker 3: Talked a little bit about that yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then if you go back where no repeat champions,

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Speaker 2: a different team every year out of the league. First

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Speaker 2: time for Denver in forty two years reminded me of sixteen. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: when you think about how long you wait. Denver's obviously

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Speaker 2: won other things, they won Super Bowls and they won

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Speaker 2: the Stanley Cup just last year, but first time for

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Speaker 2: that franchise to win a championship, and it did bring

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Speaker 2: me back a little bit to sixteen and just how

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Speaker 2: feels like even in that sport. I know this seems

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Speaker 2: it does feel like it's almost harder in that sport

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Speaker 2: to win, to build a team capable of winning a championship,

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Speaker 2: because it is the best team wins. It's the best

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Speaker 2: of seven. So if the health is there, the best

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Speaker 2: teams usually.

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Speaker 3: It's not who's playing the best and.

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Speaker 2: Who gets hot or the fluky thing like set best

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Speaker 2: of seven for three straight series, four straight series is

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Speaker 2: it's a battle of attrition and the best healthiest team wins.

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Speaker 2: There's really no way around it. You can't fluke your

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm thinking about the the Jokic Djokis comments,

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Speaker 3: and I just wonder, like you want to go home again?

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Speaker 3: Is that a direct correlation to hate? The NBA season

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Speaker 2: forward for them that Miami and New York are now

437
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 2: on the come in the AFC East. You know, the

438
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,199
Speaker 2: last couple of years, they've kind of had that to

439
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 2: themselves and they weren't able to capitalize at the highest

440
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 2: level like they probably feel like two years ago the

441
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 2: Bengals got their spot in the Super Bowl. Yeah, you know,

442
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 2: so yeah, yeah, the clock, the clock is definitely ticking

443
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 2: and the it's the window is closing on that run.

444
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 3: And so I think defensively they're not great. Everybody loves them,

445
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,439
Speaker 3: and I'm like, they got to get out of their

446
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 3: own division.

447
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they I think it's going to be a bit

448
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 2: of a challenge for them, and this just adds to it.

449
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 2: It's mini camp, Like, I'm sure this will all blow over.

450
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 2: We're a long way from September. I guess is they'll

451
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 2: all be on the same page by then. But I

452
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 2: think it's interesting that mcdermick said he's very concerned that

453
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 2: Diggs is not there.

454
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, normally you're kind of like, eh, well, like we're

455
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 3: ironing it out, we're working through a few things, and yeah,

456
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 3: you know what, we hope to have him here tomorrow.

457
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 3: Not the I'm very concerned.

458
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, this from CBS Sports Your Boys. So following

459
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 2: coaches on the NFL hot seat going into twenty twenty three.

460
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan not on this list. No, not this year.

461
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 2: But Mike McCarthy is on this list. Brandon Staley is

462
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 2: on this list, Ron Rivera is on this list. Josh

463
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 2: McDaniels is on this list, and Arthur Smith is.

464
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 3: On this Yeah, there were a few others. Tampa Bay's

465
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 3: coach the same just started.

466
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 2: Yeah.

467
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and by the way, to what do you got

468
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 3: a quarterback before you That's why I didn't even put

469
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 3: him on the line. I don't think or not a thing.

470
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 2: I wouldn't think. I don't think. Josh McDaniels is on

471
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 2: this list, like if you do that, you do this

472
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 2: thing or not a thing style. Mike McCarthy is on

473
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 2: the hot list for the Dallas Cowboys. Thing or not

474
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 2: a thing? I would say, yeah, thing.

475
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 3: It's always a thing.

476
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 2: It's uncle Jerry and it's all yeah, Yeah, it's definitely.

477
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 2: That's a thing, like there's a win. You want to

478
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 2: talk about windows, you know, Yeah, they've got a they

479
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 2: got a shot. They're one of a couple of teams

480
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 2: in the NFC that's got a shot. And yeah, for sure,

481
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 2: Brandon Staley, Yes, thing on the hot seat, no doubt right.

482
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 3: I mean he's been on the hot seat for me

483
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 3: for the last year and a half. I thought he

484
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 3: was on the hot seat a year ago at this time.

485
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 2: The only thing you got to remember with them is

486
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 2: are they willing to pay buyout money? Like his span

487
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 2: is willing to pay.

488
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,239
Speaker 3: That was my whole thing with the Raiders. Yeah, I mean,

489
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 3: their owners crazy to fire him, But I don't know

490
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 3: what his money situation.

491
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: Is well, so I would say not a thing. I

492
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 2: think Josh McDaniels is at the beginning of a very

493
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: long leash. I agree. I think he's gonna tear that

494
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 2: thing down. You know, if Garoppolo can't play this year,

495
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 2: it's not that difficult for them to tank.

496
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 3: It's not his fault.

497
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: No, I mean he could. You know that the Gruden

498
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 2: Mayok regime absolutely wrecked it from a talent talent stats.

499
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 2: I don't buy Arthur Smith at all. I would say,

500
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: not a thing on Arthur. The only thing that year two, No,

501
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 2: it's actually year three, is it? Really?

502
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 3: Yeah? Hold up? I can uh he get.

503
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 2: A Matt Ryan here two? He must have.

504
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 3: I think he did. H Okay here year three, his

505
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 3: record's fourteen and twenty.

506
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 2: Well, you know they didn't draft a quarterback in the

507
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 2: last two drafts.

508
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 3: That's what I know. He didn't make and he didn't

509
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 3: make a run at Ravens QB. Yeah, when you probably

510
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:06,239
Speaker 3: should have.

511
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 2: I mean, they wanted our guy worse than anything. Oh yeah,

512
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 2: you know they wanted they wanted DeShawn. They were all

513
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 2: in trying to get to Shawn and it didn't work out.

514
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 2: I think one of the most interesting They're not an

515
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 2: interesting team, but I think an interesting franchise spot is

516
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 2: Washington because you know, are they they're too their defense

517
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 2: is too good a tank, They've got enough weapons on offense.

518
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: But at the same time, like Sam Howell at quarterback,

519
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 2: really that's are we sure he was? He was regarded

520
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 2: pretty well after his sophomore year at North Carolina, and

521
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 2: then as a junior kind of fell on his face.

522
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 3: This is year four for Ron Rivera. Remember last year

523
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 3: he didn't realize he had to beat the Browns to

524
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 3: stay in playoff contention. Like after the game, he was like, wait,

525
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 3: we're out.

526
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 2: I think he I think he would be a thing

527
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 2: because he was hired by Snyder. Yep. I think to

528
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 2: be the front man and suffer the slings and arrows

529
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 2: for the transition from Redskins to football team to comis

530
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 2: and I think with new ownership which comes in when

531
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: Josh Harris comes in, I bet he wants his fresh

532
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 2: face on all of it.

533
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 3: I think that's the thing. Dennis Allen with the Saints,

534
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know where the Saints are going.

535
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 3: I mean he's he went, he only had one year

536
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 3: under his belt. He's seven to ten. I mean they'll

537
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 3: have a quarterback this year and Derek Carr. I mean yeah,

538
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 3: and it really it's it's a winnable division for him

539
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 3: with a guy like a Lave and you know the weapons,

540
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 3: he's got a good defense.

541
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 2: He might be.

542
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 3: But I don't know where New Orleans is going. I

543
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 3: don't know where anybody in the NFC South is going. No, well,

544
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 3: I mean, what's Tampa's path right now? What's Atlanta do? Like,

545
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 3: Atlanta's going to play a quarterback? Like all every team

546
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 3: in the NFC South is content to just junk it

547
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 3: up at the quarterback position.

548
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, they for sure are. That's exactly it.

549
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, other than Carolina, everybody else. Eh, well, we're just

550
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 3: gonna see what happens with Desmond Ridder or our former guy.

551
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: And well, yeah, I mean clearly like Tampa Bay fields,

552
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 2: like they're just pushing the chips in, right.

553
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 3: I guess I don't know. I mean, what do they

554
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 3: what do they have? I mean, defensively they're okay, yeah,

555
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 3: I mean offensively they've got wider Are they good enough

556
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 3: to win their division? Absolutely? If they get even decent

557
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 3: quarterback play, they could win their division.

558
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 2: They're not getting it out of our guy.

559
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 3: No, they better. They better be looking to Kyle Trask.

560
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 3: But yeah, and he was. He had a good stretch

561
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 3: out of Uh. I'm just trying to see Trask had

562
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 3: the start to the good years last year at Florida

563
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 3: and then it kind of papered off a little bit.

564
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think, so they've been is this just

565
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 3: the second.

566
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, So the commedies are stuck with the

567
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 2: comedies for another four years. What Yeah, unless they give them,

568
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 2: you know, a special exemption with new ownership, because there

569
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 2: it's supposed to be five years. So this they've only

570
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: done it one year. They've got four more years, and

571
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: the commanders.

572
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 3: Well, you're gonna have it this year no matter what.

573
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: So at least you're halfway through.

574
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's just a matter of like, if if

575
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 2: I were him, I just rebrand the whole thing, you know,

576
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: red hogs or redtails, red wolves whatever.

577
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 3: If you're a new owner, I feel like you have

578
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 3: to be able to, yeah, go, hey, can we Yeah

579
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 3: even after maybe after year three, maybe our first year

580
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 3: as owners. We got to keep it as the as

581
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 3: the Commies. But but we're prepared to rebrand it, you know,

582
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 3: can we rebrand everything?

583
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: They'd I'd much rather be the Washington football team, honestly,

584
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: yes than the Commedies. Yes, it was way better. Yeah,

585
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:03,239
Speaker 2: I don't know.

586
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 3: I think I think I think most of these are

587
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,479
Speaker 3: a thing. Yeah, I think I think most of them are.

588
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: I think the only one that isn't is McDaniels, and

589
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: I still think Smith is kind of more on the

590
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 2: outside looking in. I think the rest of them all

591
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 2: feel like it would be very possibly even likely that

592
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 2: they can end up being you know, casualties at the

593
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: end of this year. What did you make of this?

594
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: As we go off of the football for a second,

595
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: this new indoor golf league being launched by Tiger Woods

596
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: and Rory McElroy. So it'll be in primetime. Yep, it'll

597
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: be on ABC. It'll be Monday nights. It's being done.

598
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 2: This is the part where I think it's going to

599
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: be tricky. It's done in a an indoor arena that

600
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: seats like twenty five hundred and Palm Beach area yep.

601
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 2: And the first two shots in the competition it's two

602
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 2: hours long. Yep. Each match is two hours. The first

603
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 2: two shots are going to occur against a green screen.

604
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 3: It's a The golfers will hit long distance shots into

605
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 3: a simulator the size of an Imax screen before moving

606
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 3: to a short game area for chipping, bunker shots and putting.

607
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 3: It's a one hundred and thirty five thousand square foot

608
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 3: Arena's huge.

609
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, So they'll have live studio audience there to cheer.

610
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: Fifteen hundred to two thousand people they will have. I'm curious, like,

611
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: how do they place the ball on the third shot

612
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 2: or what would be the second shot.

613
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: On ye if you're if you're in the rough.

614
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: Right, what does that look? Is it actual rough or

615
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: is it synthetic grass?

616
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 3: You know?

617
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: What does that look like? My guess is that people

618
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 2: will watch this. Initially, I have a hard time believe

619
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: in a left staying power like something that's there year

620
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: in and year out.

621
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: It's very interesting, like the guys that have committed to play,

622
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,959
Speaker 3: obviously Tiger and Rory, John Rahm, Justin Thomas, Colin mccawa,

623
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 3: Matt Fitzpatrick, Zander Shoffley, Max Homer. So that the article

624
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 3: why it could actually work. The equity alignment going to

625
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 3: be owned by four different groups groups TMRW sports fifty

626
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 3: four percent, the PGA too or eighteen percent? Like was

627
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 3: that done before?

628
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 2: Was that done before? After?

629
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 3: The saudis the individual teams eighteen percent and the players

630
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 3: ten percent. The structure aligns incentives across all major stakeholders

631
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 3: and folk and forces everyone to focus on growth. The

632
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: celebrity investors on.

633
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: This, Oh, it's a who's who.

634
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Josh Allen shony O'tani, Arthur Blank, Shack, Dwayne Wade,

635
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 3: Kevin Durant, Tony Romo, justin Timberlake, justin Bieber Yeah, Maclamore.

636
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now it's a who's who? I mean, fifteen weeks.

637
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: I think it's interesting. I'm gonna give it a look.

638
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: I just think it's you know, is it something that's

639
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: sustainable and how much time will that? I'll say this,

640
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: The last time they tried something like this in prime

641
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 2: time was the Battle Bighorn. This is twenty some years ago,

642
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: but they would have like Monday night golf and it

643
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: was at that time. The first couple of them were

644
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: like Battle at Bighorn out in southern California, and it

645
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: was like Tiger and Jack versus Sevy and or Sergio

646
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: yeah or whatever, and they would play at night. They

647
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: run in the lights and it had a lot of

648
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: juice the first couple of time, and then it did

649
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 2: peter out after.

650
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 3: What does it say about the state of primetime TV? Well,

651
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 3: it says you're going to put this on?

652
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: Well that was it's a good job out of you.

653
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: That's the next place that I was I was going

654
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: the what it says is there, it's really hard to

655
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: create stuff that's watched. It used to be you roll

656
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: something out on a Monday on CBS it was getting

657
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 2: twenty million viewers.

658
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's over Nope.

659
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,719
Speaker 2: That doesn't happen anymore. So, you know, if this thing

660
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: can do six or seven million, five million? I mean

661
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 2: for perspective, like the Stanley Cup playoffs were like two

662
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: and a half million final Stanley Cup Finals, well like

663
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 2: two and a half million people watching it. So what's

664
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: viewed a win? It's four million a win probably could

665
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: be yeah, six million? Done right? Yeah, and it you know,

666
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: if it doesn't come at a huge production cost to

667
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: you the network, which it won't.

668
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 3: I think this is the interesting one in all this

669
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: as to why it can work the social and gambling content.

670
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: Your ability to bet on shots, yeah, and your ability,

671
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 3: which it sounds like it's going to be. Yeah, that's

672
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 3: kind of a gambling component. Creating friendly banter that performs

673
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 3: well on social media.

674
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: It'll come down to I think two, how does it look?

675
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: You know we're used to seeing golf in these picturesque vistas. Yeah,

676
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 2: Like how does it look when it's in an arena?

677
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: That's a great question. You know, how do they film

678
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 2: it to where it looks cool?

679
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 3: Yeah? When you're hitting basically into a right like I

680
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 3: like I do in the offseason.

681
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

682
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: I mean, like, if you're not going to see ball flight,

683
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: you're not gonna go We're so used to seeing those

684
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 2: things and none of those things will be in play at.

685
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 3: This unless it's like like you could take the video

686
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: game component and when you hit the ball, it switches

687
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 3: to that screen and you can it shows the flight

688
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 3: of the ball.

689
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: But maybe like the Tiger I guess, yeah, Tiger Woods.

690
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 2: Yeah it's called Yeah, maybe that's it where it flips

691
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: in real time to the ball flight. The production will

692
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: be key. They're definitely gonna have to land the plane

693
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 2: on that.

694
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 3: I just wondered with the PGA Tour having eighteen percent

695
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 3: when was this done? Was this done before the Saudi

696
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 3: deal last?

697
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: If they were this close to the finish line?

698
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 3: I mean, now, how are Rory and Tiger feeling about that?

699
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: This morning? Well, I'll tell you what did you see

700
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: who's talking today the US Open? No, Brooks is Phil

701
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 2: is not, the Shambo is not, Rory is not. So

702
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: none of those guys are talking. So I don't know

703
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: if that's the USGA saying lock it up, we don't

704
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: want to have this not having the distraction, or if

705
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: it's the players saying it. For all of them. They'll

706
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 2: be available after their rounds. But that's more of a

707
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 2: scrum versus a podium. A podium, then there's a different

708
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 2: feel to those two things. Podium is much more measured

709
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: and everybody gets their questions, and a scrum is kind

710
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 2: of a fistfight. But none of those guys are talking

711
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: at the US Open, which starts in two days out

712
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: of la CC. So I just the more I read

713
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: on it, give it, the more I'm convinced that this

714
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: last week was a holy hell, this is about ready

715
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: a leak. We we got to get this out.

716
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 3: I think that's what it was, the fact that no

717
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 3: player knew Yeah, like you know that flick special. I

718
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: can't wait to see what those reactions are, you know,

719
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 3: with the cameras running, I don't the US Open this

720
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 3: week took on a whole different meaning given what's happening

721
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 3: in the last seven days. Yeah, for sure, just can't wait.

722
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 3: And it's gonna be primetime. Yeah great.

723
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: The course looks school too. I've never seen l a

724
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: CC neither on TV that I've seen. Some of the

725
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 2: images I've seen this morning look pretty cool. So I'm excited.

726
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 3: It almost looked like that. It almost looked like a

727
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 3: PGA championship or a Open championship with the long grasses,

728
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 3: And I'm like, wow, that doesn't I don't think of

729
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 3: that when I think of US Opens.

730
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: But well, when's the less time it's hosted a major?

731
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 3: I don't know the answer to that. Well, while we

732
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 3: look that up, can I can I play you? Shannon

733
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:59,479
Speaker 3: Sharp's good tearful goodbye to Skip Bayless skipping Shannon today

734
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 3: because it was all he was leaving once the NBA

735
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 3: Finals were over. Well, I thought maybe it'd be a

736
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 3: couple of days, maybe it would last through the week,

737
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 3: or like a week and a half or you know

738
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 3: what I mean, that there would be a Nope. Today

739
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 3: it was your last last day. And here's the goodbye

740
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 3: between the two of them.

741
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 6: And last but not least, Skill Bavis. You fought for me, brother. Yeah,

742
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 6: I'm here because of you. You've allowed me to share

743
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 6: the stage with you, you allow me to share the platform.

744
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 6: I'm gonna cry in the car, but I'm not going

745
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 6: to cry now. The opportunity that you gave me to

746
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 6: become what I became. I'm forever and debted to you.

747
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 6: I'll never forget what you did for me. You've helped

748
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 6: me grow more than you ever know.

749
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 3: Okay, this is not easy for me either.

750
00:37:53,920 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 2: One more thing. All I ask when you lay your

751
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 2: head on that pill that night, No, I gave you everything.

752
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 5: I hate you did.

753
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 7: I gave you everything, which is why I want to

754
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 7: thank you for all you have given to me.

755
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: When I first took this and let you processing this,

756
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 2: I don't understand they hate each other well, or maybe

757
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: it was all I don't know. Maybe it was one

758
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: of those things where it got too close to the truth,

759
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: you know, like maybe you got kind a little too

760
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 2: close with all the act and events I gave you.

761
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 2: All I had was just a It's a TV show,

762
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: just a TV show man all this quite honestly, very

763
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: few people watch correct based on the amount of attention

764
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: it gets, very very few people watch it. Yeah mm hmm,

765
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 2: that's interesting. Something else lined up, like does Shannon have

766
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: some and else.

767
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 3: I don't know because he's already been knocked off like

768
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 3: the networks.

769
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was on that years ago.

770
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so he's.

771
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: Off of that. So now what I'll say this for

772
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 2: the Skip Bayless and like stephen A, that's a hard job.

773
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: It's a really hard job to have a take that

774
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 2: is so strong on everything. You can't have a tepid take.

775
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: Oh and it's almost whether you sometimes you're not going

776
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 3: to believe it right, but you got to talk yourself

777
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 3: into it.

778
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 2: Well he did that. He does it with the Lebron's

779
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 2: coverage that he does, Like it's just it's so overwhelming

780
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: that it's like, you're so committed to the bit. There's

781
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: no way he believes what he's saying on it, but

782
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 2: he's so committed to it that he does. It is

783
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 2: hard to go that hard at something all the time.

784
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 2: It really is in our business to that type of

785
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: So I have a ton of respect.

786
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 3: For that, to be honest.

787
00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely bring that energy every time the La Country

788
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 2: The LA Country Club has never hosted a major. This

789
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: will be the first one. The course has been around

790
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 2: since eighteen ninety seven.

791
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 3: Well, I'm liking this the more you talk about it

792
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 3: because it goes back to what we've talked about and

793
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:15,959
Speaker 3: playing courses that they.

794
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 2: Haven't done host majors.

795
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

796
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 2: So it host did the LA Open in twenty six,

797
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 2: thirty four to thirty five, thirty six and forty. It

798
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 2: hosted the Walker Cup in two seveny seventeen but has

799
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: never hosted a major, So this will be the first

800
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,479
Speaker 2: like it yeah, first Men's Major in LA in twenty

801
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 2: eight years and the area's first US Open in seventy

802
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: five years. Since LA had a US Open in that

803
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 2: big a TV March twenty eight years ago. I would

804
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 2: think it's got to be Riviera, right, Yeah, twenty eight

805
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: years ago. Is the PGA at Riviera in ninety five.

806
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 2: That's a long time and there's great courses there, but

807
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: I'm guessing that it's kind of like Saota down in Columbus,

808
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: which is an awesome track, there's really no place for

809
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: people to park. There's no place for the commercial aspects

810
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 2: that the're logistics just impossible at these places like you

811
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 2: need to have like the way they be built Mierfield

812
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: and down in Dublin where it's built for television. A

813
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: lot of these old tracks aren't and so there's no

814
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 2: place to put one hundred and fifty thousand spectators in

815
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: the middle of a city. You know, you just can't

816
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: do that, Like bel Air, you know, you can't put

817
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: them there. No, there's nowhere for them to go. So wow, Yeah,

818
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 2: there you go, all right? Coming up next, we will

819
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Speaker 2: go to the podium. Amari Cooper coming up next to

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831
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: Amari Cooper.

832
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 9: Nice to get in some eleven on eleven's and look

833
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 9: back out there in place almost football.

834
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 10: Yeah, of course, it's always fun to come out here

835
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 10: and put my skill set on display.

836
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 4: So having a lot of fun going up.

837
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 8: And getting that touchdown the way you get give you

838
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 8: a little confidence that you're where you want to be

839
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 8: physically coming off that surgery.

840
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 10: Yeah, of course, just to come out here and be

841
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 10: able to feel good again, it's a great feeling. You know,

842
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 10: you never really want to play her is not is

843
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 10: not very pleasant, but you gotta do what you gotta do.

844
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: Google seven and sevens are all offense usually, you guys

845
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 2: look plucky.

846
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 4: Did everything you wanted to in seven and seven? Is

847
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 4: that the way it's supposed to look you?

848
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

849
00:42:55,800 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 10: I mean you have no pass rush really.

850
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 4: Like pitch and catch out there.

851
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 10: I mean obviously the DBS make plays sometimes, but it's a.

852
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 4: Uh it's not a level playing.

853
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 10: Field for them, uh when we're doing seven on seven,

854
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 10: So it shoit look like that every time?

855
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 11: Mario, what were your thoughts on DeShawn saying last week that.

856
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 4: He would love for the team.

857
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 7: To add uh DeAndre Hopkins.

858
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 2: Uh.

859
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 10: I didn't see that. Uh, but who wouldn't uh DeAndre? Uh,

860
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 10: It's been a very great player in this league. Obviously

861
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 10: they have a lot of chemistry uh involves him. I

862
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 10: would want the same thing.

863
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 4: But if that took catches away from you?

864
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 12: Uh, how how would you feel about it?

865
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 10: You said, you said, what I if adding DeAndre Hopkins

866
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 10: would would the minute of sure a catch total?

867
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 4: What would you feel about that? Uh?

868
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,959
Speaker 10: I mean yeah, I Uh you had a great receiver

869
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 10: like that, That's probably gonna happen, uh cause it's only

870
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 10: one ball. You know, everybody gotta get their touches. So

871
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 10: I mean, as as long as it's uh helping us win,

872
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 10: I wouldn't have a problem with it.

873
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 11: May obviously guys a bank more reps with DeShawn What

874
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 11: what do you what's the most noticeable to you?

875
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 3: And and how.

876
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 7: Different he is?

877
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, he's looks he looks in a bit of a

878
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 10: better groove. Uh, just you know, having that long layoff.

879
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 10: Of course, you know you're gonna lose some rhythm, some

880
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 10: form of rhythm, but he looks like he's really getting

881
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 10: that back.

882
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 13: Actually, wide receivers and mar like that room now you've

883
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 13: seen him on the field. Just what what's your vibe

884
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 13: I'm having, Elijah Year, Marquise obviously you Donovan David like

885
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 13: just your vibe on that room.

886
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 10: Over that Yeah, the vi the vibe has been pretty

887
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 10: good overall. I mean even other position groups are seeing it.

888
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 3: You know.

889
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 10: Uh, a lot of plays are being made out there, uh,

890
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 10: coming from.

891
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 4: The receiver position. So it looks good so far.

892
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 9: So Mario, if the Browns do sign younger U and

893
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 9: you and here on the field at the same time,

894
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 9: that's a pretty darn formidable wide receiving corps to to

895
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 9: have to go against, doesn't it.

896
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean it's more than one way to skin

897
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 10: a cat. I think, Uh, our skill sets are a

898
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 10: little different, but we both get their job done. Uh

899
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 10: with DeAndre he's you know, pretty unstoppable, or with the

900
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 10: way use his hands in his body to position himself

901
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 10: well to make the catch.

902
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 4: So it'll be it'll be pretty good, Mari.

903
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 8: With the guys that you've had already, the Elijah, Maurcise, Cedric,

904
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 8: like they all have something that maybe didn't have the

905
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 8: exact same thing here last year, Like just having those

906
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 8: different kinds of guys.

907
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 4: With different skills so far, how much like.

908
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 8: The difference in the offense and the pask game do

909
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 8: you notice?

910
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean the more the merrier, you know, the

911
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 10: more guys that can make plays, the more plays that

912
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 10: are gonna be made. You know, It's just that simple.

913
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 10: So I think that's the philosophy behind.

914
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 4: It this on the year, Murray, everything gets over analyzed.

915
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 8: But for you as a player, what's I guess what

916
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:39,959
Speaker 8: what do you look for?

917
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 7: Uh?

918
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 8: During many camp to get out of it or to

919
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 8: come out of it feeling good going into sommer vacation.

920
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 7: Uh.

921
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 10: Just you know the culture that we're build, that we're building,

922
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 10: you know how you know we all interact with each

923
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 10: other in the locker room, how the p how the

924
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 10: vibe of the practice is going. You know, are we

925
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 10: being disciplined enough to practice the right way? Just the

926
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 10: little things right now?

927
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: From what you could tell right now?

928
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: Uh, are you gonna be a hundre precent Uh?

929
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 4: First contact practice in training camp? God willing? How much

930
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 4: did that injury affect you last year?

931
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 12: Uh?

932
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,240
Speaker 4: Uh A lot down a uh down the stretch.

933
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: Uh.

934
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 10: Like I said before, it just wasn't very pleasant to

935
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 10: play through it. But it's just a part of the game.

936
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 10: But it definitely affected me.

937
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 4: Yeah. And uh rehab since you had that surgery in trevoration.

938
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 10: Uh, you know, little things here and there, but nothing

939
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 10: that was not expected.

940
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: Mary.

941
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 7: When Deshaun talked.

942
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 8: To us last week, he talked about just overall, like

943
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 8: feeling more comfortable in his second year. I guess do

944
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 8: you guys like feel that for him as as receivers.

945
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 4: That he's settling in more Yeah.

946
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 10: I mean he made a throw today and sh right

947
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 10: when he released it, I said, great throw. I even

948
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 10: know if it was a great throw, but I just

949
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 10: felt that it was and it was right on the money,

950
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 10: so you it was not to me Now I wasn't

951
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 10: in But yeah, he's definitely uh getting more comfortable, like

952
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 10: he said, getting his rhythm back, looking like Deshaun was

953
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 10: like the one.

954
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 8: That DPJ over the middle that he threaded the needle.

955
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 7: Mmr. Do you see some young guys out there like

956
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 7: blocking to you, kind of talking, especially when you were

957
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 7: a four weeks ago when you.

958
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,959
Speaker 3: Were working to the side out there talking to guys.

959
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 7: Do you see that maybe increasing?

960
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean we all communicated. That was our number

961
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 10: one goal at the receiver position as as a collective,

962
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 10: to communicate better with each other. So yeah, they've definitely

963
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 10: been asking me questions, should I aksed him, questions.

964
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 4: I'm coming back if injury?

965
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 10: I uh often asks them how I'm looking on routes

966
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 10: and stuff like that. So just better communication overall.

967
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 13: One of the stories last week of Marvis Marquis and

968
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 13: just how fast he really still is is it when

969
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 13: you see him.

970
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 4: Out there at what thirty you want? I mean, that's

971
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 4: pretty impressive.

972
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 10: In it it's very impressive. Uh, you know, he's doing

973
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 10: something right. I gotta I gotta tap in with him.

974
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 10: He looks like he's he doesn't he doesn't l just

975
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 10: look good here. He looks like he feels good as well.

976
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 10: So it's a credit to him taking care of his

977
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 10: body and being a pro.

978
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 13: What do you think that vertical forever will do for

979
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 13: the rest of you guys.

980
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 4: It's gonna do a lot. I'm already seeing it. Uh.

981
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 10: First of all, DeShawn loves throwing the the the vertical

982
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 10: passes downfield, so I know he's gonna throw 'em and

983
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 10: good one. He's he isn't just fast, but he he

984
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 10: he's a football player. He knows how to track the ball,

985
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 10: he knows how to run those deep balls. So I

986
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 10: think it's gonna be phenomenal. Course for sure.

987
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 3: I know you guys are gonna be throwing the ball

988
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 3: more with Watson the whole season.

989
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 2: How many actually new plays are that? Do you see

990
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 2: a lot of new plays to running?

991
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, of course you gotta. You gotta be able to

992
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 10: come up with new plays and new concepts. You know,

993
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 10: it's a copycat league. I mean, you know stuff that

994
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 10: was working in the league ten years ago. You know,

995
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 10: teams catch on really fast, so you always have to

996
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 10: be able to adapt. So of course we're we we've

997
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 10: been adding new plays.

998
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 9: How about of Liza, Uh, what's he bringing to the table?

999
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 9: What does he add to the court?

1000
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 4: And you got to yeah, he he's adding a lot.

1001
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 10: He's another threat, another guy who can uh get open,

1002
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 10: create space and make it easy Fordshaun. So that's what

1003
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 10: I'm saying, Like, we got a lot, a lot of

1004
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:08,479
Speaker 10: threats in the receiver room now. So we'll see, all.

1005
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 2: Right, Coming up next, our good buddy Armando so Garrel

1006
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,480
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1017
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1018
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,040
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1019
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 2: big picture NFL and big news out of Buffalo today

1020
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 2: with Stefan Diggs not showing up in some interesting comments

1021
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 2: from Sean McDermott where he says it's not sure where

1022
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 2: he is. What do you make of this situation up there?

1023
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 7: Well, you know he was there yesterday. He was there

1024
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 7: for the pre mini camp physical.

1025
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 12: Stefan Diggs showed up.

1026
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 7: I was told that he was healthy, so it's not

1027
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 7: an injury situation. And he was there this morning and

1028
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 7: then he wasn't there, so it's.

1029
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 12: It's it's a strange situation. It's mysterious. I reached out

1030
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 12: to someone.

1031
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 7: Who is not close to Stefan, but his acquaintances with

1032
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 7: Stefan okay, and he told me that he thinks that

1033
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 7: it has something to do with Stefann not being happy

1034
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 7: that the Bills aren't adding talent on offense this year.

1035
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 12: And you know that's not.

1036
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 7: Exactly true because they drafted a tight end early in

1037
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 7: the draft, but they don't have the kind of cap

1038
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 7: space to have been players in the Odell Beckham Junior

1039
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 7: Sweet Stakes. They haven't shown interest in DeAndre Hopkins. Dalvin

1040
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 7: Cook has told people he wouldn't he would welcome an idea,

1041
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 7: the idea of playing in Buffalo because James Cook, his

1042
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 7: brother plays in Buffalo, and he'd like that to be

1043
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 7: a combination backfield. But the Bills haven't shown interest in

1044
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 7: that idea either. And I think Diggs is you know,

1045
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 7: he sees the landscape and the Bills there. They've got

1046
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 7: to improve to get past the divisional round, which they

1047
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 7: haven't gotten past the last couple of years, regardless of

1048
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 7: how good people think they are.

1049
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 12: And to do that, you got to get better.

1050
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. I mean, you've been around this

1051
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 2: game a long time. I look around the AFC and

1052
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: I think about everything that we've done here in Cleveland

1053
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 2: to try to be amongst that top group. Obviously you're

1054
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 2: down in South Florida and everything the Dolphs have done.

1055
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: You've been around a long time. You ever seen an

1056
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 2: arms race like this like we have right now in

1057
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 2: the AFC with this many teams this good or that

1058
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,720
Speaker 2: believe they're Super Bowl contenders.

1059
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 7: Never seen it in one conference, Because I mean, if

1060
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 7: you thought the AFC was good last year, then you know, obviously.

1061
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 12: The New York Jets go and.

1062
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 7: Pluck one of the better it's not the best quarterback

1063
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 7: in the other conference and bring them to the AFC.

1064
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 7: It's like you go down the roster, you know. And

1065
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 7: obviously the Browns with the Shawn Watson are included in this.

1066
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 7: And it's like every team in the AFC that's vuying

1067
00:52:55,000 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 7: for a division championship is thinking not just division championship

1068
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 7: that's goal one, is thinking super Bowl because they all

1069
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 7: have elite kind of quarterbacks.

1070
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 2: And they're all chasing that dude in Kansas City, right,

1071
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,919
Speaker 2: And so it's like you can and by the way,

1072
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 2: they've wanted a couple of different ways, you know, they

1073
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 2: want it when they had Tyreek Hill and Kelsey and

1074
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 2: then last year they won it as they kind of

1075
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 2: transitioned out of the post Tyreek kell years. So it's

1076
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: almost like you're doing all of these things to try

1077
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 2: to get better and then that dude's out there waiting

1078
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: for you in Kansas City. And that's the other tricky

1079
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 2: part is you got this unicorn out.

1080
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 7: There, right, and the unicorn has a great coach. That's

1081
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 7: a tough combination. I mean, you know, obviously Everybody understands

1082
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 7: that Patrick Mahomes is amazing, right, he does amazing things.

1083
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 7: But Andy Reid and that offense and the way that

1084
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 7: he coaches and the way that he schemes things up

1085
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 7: and the way that he on offense can diminish his weaknesses.

1086
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 12: And amplify his strengths to whereas the.

1087
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 7: Defenses no, no, no, no no, we want to deal

1088
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 7: with your weaknesses. And Andy Reid is like, no, no, no, no,

1089
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:18,240
Speaker 7: no no, We're gonna hide our weaknesses from you today.

1090
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 12: We're gonna deal with ourt.

1091
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 7: We're gonna have say, it's not the defense, you know,

1092
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 7: doing what the defense gives you, it's doing what Andy

1093
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 7: Reid decides he's gonna do.

1094
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it certainly is. Let's let's get back to the

1095
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 2: division you're you're certainly very familiar with, and that is

1096
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 2: the AFC East. You mentioned Rogers obviously going to the Jets.

1097
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 2: It seems to be there's a wide range of opinion

1098
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 2: on how good he'll be right away. I am of

1099
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: the opinion that he will be. To me, this feels

1100
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 2: a little bit more like when Peyton Manning went to

1101
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 2: Denver than it does Tom Brady going to Tampa Oo.

1102
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 2: Tom Brady's really good too. I kind of think Rogers

1103
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 2: is gonna go nuts a little bit with with that

1104
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 2: type of talent that he's gonna have around him. What

1105
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 2: do you make how much do you think he's still

1106
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 2: got in the tank.

1107
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 7: So I'm this is going to sound like, you know,

1108
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 7: the angry guy or even the pessimist. I for the record,

1109
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 7: I think Aaron Rodgers is great, right, yeah, but I

1110
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 7: recognize that he's thirty nine years old and he's going

1111
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 7: to be forty years old in December, and I recognize

1112
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 7: that forty year old, they slow down some and you know,

1113
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 7: they become somewhat injury prone.

1114
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 12: And I say that.

1115
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 7: To say this, the Jets tackle situation is terrible, awful.

1116
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 7: Dwayne Brown is thirty seven years old, coming off an

1117
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 7: elbow surge, excuse me, a shoulder surgery. He hasn't really

1118
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 7: been able to do much this offseason. He's gonna be

1119
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 7: fine as long as he's what healthy? Has he been healthy?

1120
00:55:59,760 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 12: No?

1121
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 4: Oh?

1122
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 12: Is he young enough to stay healthy?

1123
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 7: He's thirty seven years old. On the other on the

1124
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 7: other side, Makai Becton is young enough to stay healthy,

1125
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 7: but he's played like two games in two years because

1126
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 7: he hasn't been healthy, he's been out of shape. He

1127
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 7: doesn't like playing right tackle. He wants to play left tackle,

1128
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 7: which he won't do. Other than those two things, the

1129
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 7: unhappy right tackle who's never healthy and the thirty seven

1130
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 7: year old left tackle coming off an injury, they're fine.

1131
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 7: Everything's great on the edges for the New York Jets

1132
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 7: to protect there soon to be forty year old quarterback.

1133
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 2: So do you have how do you have the pecking

1134
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,959
Speaker 2: order in the afcast heading into too training camp.

1135
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 7: I think it's the Bills first, depending on what happens

1136
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 7: with sure Stefon Diggs right, because that's not a good look.

1137
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 12: I think it's the Dolphins.

1138
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 7: Second because people aren't recognizing what.

1139
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:11,280
Speaker 12: They did this offseason, and what they did was they.

1140
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:15,280
Speaker 7: Went out and hired the best defensive coordinator available, and

1141
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 7: that's Vic Fangio.

1142
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 12: Vic Fangio didn't do.

1143
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 7: Great as a head coach, but he is a Hall

1144
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 7: of Fame caliber defensive coordinator in the NFL and everybody

1145
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 7: understands that. And now he's the Dolphins defensive coordinator. And oh,

1146
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 7: by the way, they also added Jalen Ramsey to play

1147
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 7: quarterback cornerback. Excuse me, and they're gonna team him with

1148
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 7: Xavian Howard, who's himself a perennial Pro Bowl cornerback.

1149
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:47,479
Speaker 12: So I've got them.

1150
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 7: Second, I've got the Jets, you know, coming up third.

1151
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 12: I wouldn't be surprised if.

1152
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 7: Three teams, by the way, make the playoffs.

1153
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 12: From the AFC East.

1154
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 7: I wouldn't be surprised if too make it from you know,

1155
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 7: the the AFC North. So I've got the Jets behind them,

1156
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 7: and then the Patriots. Mac Jones, I'm sure will be better.

1157
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 7: I don't think anyone's saying mac Jones is elite. I

1158
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 7: don't think he's in the Aaron Rodgers or Josh Allen

1159
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 7: you know school, And I don't think that he's got

1160
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 7: a lot of weapons around him. Bill O'Brien, you know,

1161
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 7: is going to be better because he's been an actual

1162
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 7: offensive coordinator. The experiment last year with Matt Patricia as

1163
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 7: a failure because Matt Patricia had never been an offensive

1164
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 7: coordinator and Joe Judge, who was the quarterback coach, had

1165
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 7: never been a quarterback coach. So wow, Bill Belichick blew

1166
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 7: that one right.

1167
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 12: But now, yeah, you mentioned the arms race.

1168
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, Patriots are lagging behind in the arms race.

1169
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah they are. And I think what you know when

1170
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 2: you were when you look at this cud lord, you

1171
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 2: go through that Dolphins roster, it's just to who's who?

1172
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 2: Just star power everywhere, so much speed, so much athleticism,

1173
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 2: so dynamic. And I think last year, when healthy, Tua

1174
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 2: answered the questions we had going into the season about

1175
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 2: what type of player he could because when he was healthy,

1176
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 2: he was sensational. The problem was he wasn't healthy and

1177
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 2: at the end it was pretty scary. It took a

1178
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 2: long time for him to get out of concussion protocol

1179
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 2: and it I guess, give me a kind of a

1180
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 2: feel on where you are with Tua health wise and

1181
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 2: how nervous are they down there that he could get

1182
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 2: through a season.

1183
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 7: They're not nervous, but they should be. And the reason

1184
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 7: is because Tua Tongue.

1185
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 12: By law, is not a big guy.

1186
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 7: He's about six foot and two twenty and his history

1187
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 7: has been that he gets hurt and it's you know,

1188
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 7: last year it was concussions and concussions plural two. The

1189
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 7: year before that it was the I think it was

1190
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 7: an elbow, and then it was a finger. The year

1191
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 7: before that it was a finger and he was coming

1192
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 7: off the hip in college. In college it was a hip.

1193
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 7: It's been something every year that has caused him to

1194
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 7: miss games, and when he misses games, either directly or

1195
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:33,439
Speaker 7: indirectly as a result, the Dolphins lose. And last year

1196
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 7: he missed five games, including a playoff game, and they

1197
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 7: were one and four in those games, and the one

1198
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 7: that they won was like a twelve to eleven game

1199
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 7: against the Jets, who also didn't have a quarterback that day.

1200
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 7: So it's one of those things where if the Dolphins

1201
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 7: have their starting quarterback, they're going to be all right.

1202
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 7: If they don't, they're not going to be all right.

1203
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 7: And by the way, their starting quarterback has been injury prone,

1204
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 7: So does that, you know, continue or does that change?

1205
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 2: It just feels like to me that it's pretty wild

1206
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 2: if they roll the dice on it right, like just

1207
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 2: him now, you wouldn't want to bring in competition. But

1208
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 2: I do wonder like they feel like they're in a

1209
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 2: clearly in a win now mode. If there was some

1210
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 2: sort of injury early to him, do they call on it?

1211
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 2: They call on Stafford. I don't even know if they

1212
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 2: can move Stafford, but like, is it that type of

1213
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 2: situation where if there's a if he gets knocked early

1214
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 2: in the season, they would be pretty nimble to try

1215
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 2: to get somebody established in there.

1216
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 7: I'm not quite sure that that would be the next move, okay,

1217
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 7: because well, let me say this. If you make that move,

1218
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 7: you're not just speaking for the one season. You're saying

1219
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 7: to everybody on the roster and everybody in the stands,

1220
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 7: we've lost confidence in this guy's ability to stay healthy,

1221
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 7: and that that's a that's crossing a rubicon and you

1222
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 7: can't come back from that. You just it just doesn't

1223
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 7: fly that way. And so we're not there yet obviously.

1224
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 7: But if if Tua gets hurt right now, it's Mike White,

1225
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 7: who this is funny, who came in for the Jets

1226
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 7: last year when Zack Wilson was you know, was proven

1227
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 7: to be somewhat of a bust and he was fine.

1228
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 12: Until he got hurt. Yeah, and so, and I think

1229
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 12: it took him like a game and a half and

1230
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 12: he was hurt.

1231
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 7: So the Dolphins have a starting quarterback who's been hurt

1232
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,439
Speaker 7: a lot and a backup who's been hurt a lot.

1233
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 12: It's it's it's a perfect quarterback root.

1234
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 2: Not ideal for a team that's loaded everywhere else as

1235
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 2: that one is. Hey, I want to ask you, is

1236
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel as much we see these clips and he's

1237
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 2: pretty damn funny. Is he as fun day to day

1238
01:02:58,480 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 2: as he appears to be.

1239
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 7: Yes, he's very unorthodox. He's he is, you know, hard

1240
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 7: to figure out in how he you know, thinks obviously

1241
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:17,479
Speaker 7: when he's calling plays and when he's coaching a football team.

1242
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 12: It works for him to the point where they made the.

1243
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 7: Playoffs in his first year last year. But he is

1244
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 7: just a different kind of person. The first time that

1245
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 7: I met him, he spent ten minutes talking about my

1246
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 7: glasses and I was like, okay, yeah, ray baan, and

1247
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 7: now what you got? And he's like discussing the history

1248
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 7: of his classes and so, you know, his optometris visit.

1249
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 7: And I'm like, this is the strangest get to know

1250
01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:01,439
Speaker 7: you conversation I've ever had an NFL coach and I've

1251
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 7: had a few, and this one is the strangest. But

1252
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 7: do the people that cover him enjoy it?

1253
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:10,959
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1254
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 12: Absolutely, because you never know what he's gonna bring. And

1255
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 12: do the players so far like it? Yeah? He you know,

1256
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 12: they had a losing streak last year.

1257
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 7: I think it was four games or something like that,

1258
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 7: and he didn't lose the locker room, even though he.

1259
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 12: Was in his first year.

1260
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 7: And he doesn't look necessarily the part of a head coach,

1261
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 7: but you know he was fine.

1262
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 2: Oh that's great. I'll get you out of here on

1263
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 2: this one, buddy. We had the Heat lose last night

1264
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 2: to the Nuggets. The Panthers play tonight. I'm curious, what

1265
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 2: is the what's the pecking order South Florida from a

1266
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 2: sports perspective, what moves the needle the most down there

1267
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,439
Speaker 2: in terms of the professional Heck, twenty some years, twenty

1268
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 2: years ago, when I was around down there a little bit,

1269
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 2: I mean that you could make an argument Miami Hurricane

1270
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 2: football ran the town. What is what's kind of the

1271
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 2: pecking order now in twenty two three down in South

1272
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 2: Florida from a sports perspective.

1273
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, there was a time where I think the

1274
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 7: year was like nineteen eighty nine, nineteen ninety the Hurricanes

1275
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 7: were in the middle of their five national championships string

1276
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 7: and they had more season ticket holders than the Dolphins.

1277
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 12: That has changed.

1278
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 7: The Hurricanes have fallen on hard times. Everybody else now

1279
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 7: is recruiting in South Florida. The Heat have won three championships.

1280
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 12: The Panthers.

1281
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 7: They are obviously in the Stanley Cup finals now this

1282
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 7: is their second one. And you know, the Dolphins are

1283
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 7: still looking to return to that height. They haven't been

1284
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 7: to the Super Bowl since like nineteen eighty four, they

1285
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 7: haven't won it since nineteen seventy four, So folks are starved.

1286
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 12: For the Dolphins' success.

1287
01:05:56,320 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 7: If the Dolphins are successful, they run the town. If

1288
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 7: the Dolphins are not successful, then it's kind of like

1289
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 7: a Dolphins Heat, you know, amalcam there that they fight

1290
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 7: for whatever they can they can get and normally out

1291
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 7: of all those the winner is the beach.

1292
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 2: On that note, as it is sixty one degrees in

1293
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 2: rainy up here today, thank you so much, sir for

1294
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 2: your time. I always appreciate you.

1295
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 11: It's my plavor.

1296
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 2: That's our good buddy. Armanda so Garo, NFL writer at

1297
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 2: OutKick always always one weather shot from armandoing this hit.

1298
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 2: I always tell people that too, like people are always hard,

1299
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 2: like on the South there at Florida fandom. I was

1300
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 2: down there. Ohio State was playing Miami in like eleven

1301
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 2: down there, pretty not it was that Luke Fickle, You're

1302
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 2: not a great Ohio State team. But they were down

1303
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 2: there playing Miami and so they played Saturday night and

1304
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 2: then Sunday was a Dolphins game. And there's a lot

1305
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 2: of empty seats at the Dolphins. So my boss at

1306
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 2: the time had never been to like South Beach, like

1307
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 2: truly South Beach. I'm like, well, let's go, we'll go

1308
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 2: over there. So I took him over to South Beach

1309
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 2: and we get to South Beach and there looks to

1310
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 2: be about two hundred thousand people on South Beach, and

1311
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 2: you go, this is why, No, there's empty seats. Would

1312
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 2: you want to sit? You have DVR, you watch it later.

1313
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 2: You're not giving up your Sunday. The weather's too good.

1314
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna waste it at an arena.

1315
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 5: Correct.

1316
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 2: And that's always something that people, Oh, they don't have

1317
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 2: good fans. No, they have good fans. They've got great

1318
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 2: fans down there. It's just they have a lot of

1319
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 2: options to choose from. And I felt that way too.

1320
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 2: I always felt it was it was a Canes town

1321
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 2: in the early two thousands when they were winning those

1322
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 2: national titles with with Ed Reid and Ed I don't

1323
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 2: remember if Edward won Woner. Yeah he did. But there

1324
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 2: it certainly felt like a hurricane town.

1325
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 3: Then.

1326
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 2: I did not know that about the season tickets though.

1327
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 2: That's crazy in the late eighties, early nineties or Miami

1328
01:07:56,680 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 2: hurricane season tickets in Miami than Dolphins. That's crazy pre Marino,

1329
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 2: that's yeah, late eighties, early nineties. Yeah, yeah, I was

1330
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 2: thinking early eighties. No, No, they those that would have

1331
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 2: been while Marina was with the Dolphins. That's an incredible

1332
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 2: number that that they had.

1333
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 4: That.

1334
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 3: I mean, they turned and now that the Dolphins Stadium

1335
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 3: hard Rock, they've done a great job converting it and

1336
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 3: tweaking it. Yeah, modernizing it with the sunshade and everything.

1337
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 3: But it's just one big club. Everywhere you go there's

1338
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,719
Speaker 3: Club Thish, there's a DJ there.

1339
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 2: It's a bad location.

1340
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:34,799
Speaker 3: People aren't in the seats, they're in the clubs.

1341
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a it's a bad location. It's kind

1342
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 2: of in the middle of nowhere. So it's it's a

1343
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 2: bit of a tough sell. We'll do the categories with

1344
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 2: the Dolphins to get a little higher, lower, better, worse

1345
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 2: coming up at the bottom of the hour. You listen

1346
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 2: to Cleveland Browns Daily on a fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,799
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Bet coming

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Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 2: For two of injury lawyers dedicated every client, every day.

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01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 2: Call one eight hundred elk Ohio Elkinox, proud partner of

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01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,640
Speaker 2: your Cleveland Browns. All right, let's take a little bit

1352
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 2: of a deep dive on the Miami Dolphins. Here. Quickly,

1353
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 2: give a favorite favorite uniform for Miami all time.

1354
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 3: It would have to be the Marino they got the

1355
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 3: mid eighties.

1356
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 2: They got that one. And they also have like the

1357
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 2: seventy two Dolphins with the big thick stripe that are perfect.

1358
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 2: Those are both great. Yeah, they've been in this version

1359
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 2: for a while. I think their fans down there have

1360
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 2: hated this version as soon as they start wearing them

1361
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,600
Speaker 2: and want to get back as soon as possible, And

1362
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,919
Speaker 2: all indications are that they will go back to it

1363
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 2: to what they used to wear. It feels like every

1364
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 2: time they wear them, they get they got a gorgeous uniform.

1365
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like it's beautiful, Like the colors fit the colors,

1366
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 2: they colors. The aqua is perfect, the orange is perfect.

1367
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 2: It is so specifically South Florida when you see it. Yeah,

1368
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 2: I think I think that the their throwback uniform is perfect.

1369
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 2: I think that their branding is like the Miami Dolphins.

1370
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 2: It's just flawless. Yeah, they crushed it. I agree with

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01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 2: you on the stadium. So I have been before and

1372
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 2: then I've been through part of the renovation, but not

1373
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 2: all the way renovation. It used to be just simply

1374
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 2: a baseball field.

1375
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really Yeah, and there's still in the corner.

1376
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1377
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 3: I don't like the press box setup. Yeah, that part's brutal.

1378
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 3: And the windows don't open.

1379
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 2: Oh that's right.

1380
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 3: That this is what we ran into last year. Like

1381
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 3: the windows up above open so you can hang like

1382
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 3: a microphone out, Yeah, but you can't like the windows

1383
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:56,440
Speaker 3: themselves don't open, which is just utter stupidity.

1384
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So they made the decision to throw the

1385
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 2: money into the current stadium and it got them, like

1386
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 2: the canopies and the coverage. They had to get people out.

1387
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 3: All the clubs. Yeah, I mean literally when I say clubs,

1388
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 3: like during the game, you can hear the DJ, like

1389
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 3: like it's a club. There's couches and like you can

1390
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 3: watch the game, but there's a there's a full club

1391
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 3: and bar. Yeah, on either end zone and it's it's

1392
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 3: just a party. They've set it up like if we're

1393
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 3: gonna get people, this is gonna have to be a

1394
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 3: party atmosphere.

1395
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, road trip, not drive, but I would fly.

1396
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 2: It's an all timer. It's a great trip. It's a

1397
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 2: great two nighter. Flying on a Friday out on a Sunday,

1398
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:43,799
Speaker 2: that's about as big a win as could be, especially

1399
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 2: if it's inclement weather here.

1400
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 3: I feel like it's a Monday out.

1401
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 2: Could I guess you'd know better than me. At one

1402
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 2: o'clock you probably would rather fly out Monday morning.

1403
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, you because Saturdays a post game. There's a post

1404
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 3: game party somewhere.

1405
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Saturday in then and Monday Saturday night.

1406
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 3: South Beach, by the way, the one thing like, go

1407
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 3: to the Yardbird in Miami. It's it's not totally all

1408
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 3: it's not all the way into South Beach. It's just

1409
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 3: on the outskirts of it. Uh. The Yardbird had the

1410
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 3: best skillet fried chicken. Oh really ever had it or something? Random?

1411
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,839
Speaker 2: Yeah? I saw it on something on Food Network.

1412
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 3: We went down. It lives up to the buildings.

1413
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 2: It was unbelievable. Yeah, yeah, the food's awesome down there,

1414
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 2: Joe's stone Crab, all of it. It's it's it's as

1415
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 2: big a win as can be. A must do thing

1416
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 2: on a road trip. I think we nailed most of that.

1417
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 2: The people seeing it South Beach South speaks for itself. Yes,

1418
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 2: just the people watching is is pretty great. I like

1419
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 2: South Florida a lot. I think it's a lot like

1420
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:45,640
Speaker 2: I feel the same way about South Florida as I

1421
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 2: feel about like certain parts of southern California. Like I

1422
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 2: could live there, but I'd have to be really wealthy, yes,

1423
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 2: Like you don't want to not be. You don't want

1424
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 2: to not have means because then it starts to suck.

1425
01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there are the haves and the have not.

1426
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 3: You don't want to be. It's a big gap.

1427
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 2: You don't want to be that. No player i'd want

1428
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 2: on their current roster. I mean, Tyreek kill would be

1429
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 2: a lot of fun.

1430
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 3: Boy boy lining him up would be, Uh, that would

1431
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 3: work quite quite.

1432
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:22,759
Speaker 2: The boil and waddles pretty damn good. Like yeah, uh,

1433
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey. They get a lot of studs, like a

1434
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 2: lot of stars.

1435
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 3: It's got to be it's Tyree.

1436
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,919
Speaker 2: You deal with, You deal with any of the baggage

1437
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 2: he brings to the table. Yeah for sure. Yeah. Who's

1438
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 2: your all time favorite dolphin? I don't know. I don't

1439
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:42,640
Speaker 2: know if I have an answer for that. I was

1440
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 2: I always really appreciated Marino and felt sorry for him that.

1441
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 2: I mean, he gets to live in South Florida and

1442
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 2: had a great life and all of that. But just

1443
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 2: from the standpoint of it, felt like he never they

1444
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 2: were never able to put a team around him that

1445
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,719
Speaker 2: could go. You know, they brought in Jimmy Johnson towards

1446
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 2: the end of his career and they kind of tried

1447
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 2: transition into a run team, but they got just drilled.

1448
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 2: His last game against Jacksonville. There just wasn't ever a

1449
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 2: team around him that could go. I think it stands.

1450
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 2: I think one of the most stupefying records of all

1451
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 2: time is when he threw for five thousand yards and

1452
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 2: eighty four. Yeah, because people weren't doing that, no, and

1453
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 2: he threw for he through for five thousand.

1454
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 3: I did, like I did, like Mark Duper, simply for

1455
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 3: his face mask.

1456
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 2: The old school face mask, the old school face mask.

1457
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 3: Now that Yeah, Zach Thomas, I was going to say,

1458
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:33,639
Speaker 3: Zach Thomas Zaka.

1459
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so tired of those perfect dolphin guys though,

1460
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:39,719
Speaker 2: like all the times with the all their nons.

1461
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:41,679
Speaker 3: They're champagne toasts and everything.

1462
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes, they're a playoff team, They're a contender. Two

1463
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 2: is healthy, they're all of those things.

1464
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 3: I agree with you, like I don't need to bring

1465
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 3: in a guy for competition now, but why wouldn't you

1466
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:56,440
Speaker 3: after what happened last year have a guy ready.

1467
01:14:56,160 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 2: To go name yeah be ready. Uh biggest off season addition,

1468
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey. They brought in one of the best corners

1469
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 2: in the league, so they're they're ready made if to

1470
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 2: a tongue of Iloa can stay healthy. And in fact,

1471
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 2: this dovetails into our next conversation on higher and lower

1472
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 2: ESPN ranking the roster cores. I can tell you Miami

1473
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 2: is very high. I can tell you the Browns are

1474
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 2: probably about where I think most of you think that

1475
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 2: they would be. We'd get into that coming up next.

1476
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 2: Let's say Cleveland Browns Daily on a fifty ESPN.

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01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:47,960
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1485
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 11: Is it going guys?

1486
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 2: Are you working from the stadium today?

1487
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 11: Yes, and I'm currently there's a cart going by.

1488
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 3: You really should just come work at the undisclosed location

1489
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 3: like I've offered forty times. Yeah.

1490
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:20,679
Speaker 11: Well, I didn't expect to be in a bad spot

1491
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 11: today and I definitely should have once again stopped body

1492
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 11: undisclosed location. So that is absolutely my bad. But it

1493
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 11: looks like the noise is now cleared. Can you guys

1494
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 11: hear me?

1495
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 12: Sign? Yeah?

1496
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 2: Yeah more than fine. Yeah, we're good. Yeah, your safe, pal,

1497
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 2: you're safe. So are you in the catacombs? You're not

1498
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 2: in the press box?

1499
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 11: Well, the spot that I have normally been going to

1500
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 11: in the press box, which is one of the radio booths,

1501
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 11: is now also under construction. So the construction is just

1502
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 11: really hampering my ability to find a quiet spot of teams.

1503
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 2: I thought I was in one.

1504
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 11: Now I just went to a different floor, but then

1505
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:54,759
Speaker 11: there was a loud cart rolling by, so I just wanted.

1506
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:56,640
Speaker 3: To make Wait, what radio boost under construction?

1507
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 11: I don't think it's yours. Unfortunately gives it.

1508
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 2: No, that's good.

1509
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 3: I don't need it under construction.

1510
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 11: It's I don't know if I don't know what it's for,

1511
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 11: but it's not yours.

1512
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 2: I wish you had a camera on gimby his face

1513
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 2: when the when ap dropped the radio booth construction? What

1514
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,759
Speaker 2: because none of those boos are supposed to be under construction.

1515
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 11: I think it might be a football boother or like stadium,

1516
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 11: like a stadium boother. I don't know. There's there's so

1517
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:25,600
Speaker 11: much construction.

1518
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 3: Going on now he's in nice chet boise L. All right,

1519
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 3: all right, boys, let's get into it a little higher

1520
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 3: or lower this week from ESPN's Seth Walder ESPN Analytics.

1521
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 3: All right, uh, it is ranking the NFL roster cores,

1522
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:50,719
Speaker 3: stacking all thirty two teams top five players. Okay, core

1523
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 3: defined is the five most important players to a team,

1524
01:17:54,439 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 3: the guys each roster is built around. Let's dive into

1525
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 3: the rankings. Average ages were calculated by taking each player's

1526
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 3: age of September seventh, twenty twenty three, when the Lions

1527
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,679
Speaker 3: and Chiefs are set to kick off the twenty twenty

1528
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 3: three season. The Cleveland Browns come in at number eleven.

1529
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 3: But my bigger question is the roster corps they have

1530
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 3: listed is DeShawn Watson, Miles Garrett, Nick Chubb, Denzel Ward,

1531
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 3: and Joel Beatonio Bishop agree disagree. Any changes you would

1532
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 3: make to that.

1533
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 2: Car No, I think that's the right I think that's

1534
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 2: the right core that I would want representing for this

1535
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 2: year at least, and I think that we're appropriate at eleven.

1536
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 2: I think the rest of our roster is better than

1537
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 2: some of the teams ahead of us. But I think

1538
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 2: that look, this is all going to come down to,

1539
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 2: like every conversation we've had all off season, it's just

1540
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 2: going to come down to Sean and if he can

1541
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 2: elevate to what he was, Because if he can, then

1542
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 2: the rest of those guys, well, that'll level of rate

1543
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 2: that number as well. If you get DeShawn from two

1544
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 2: years ago when he played in Houston at that level,

1545
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 2: when he led the NFL in passing, then you're gonna

1546
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 2: be a top five corps. But right now we haven't

1547
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 2: seen that in Orange and Brown yet.

1548
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 3: And he says it specifically, if Deshaun gets back to

1549
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 3: his Houston level of play, Cleveland would fly up this list. Yeah, boys,

1550
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,640
Speaker 3: out your thoughts on the Browns at number eleven and

1551
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 3: their core.

1552
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 11: Yeah, both took the words right out of my mouth.

1553
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 11: I mean, obviously all of this has to come down to,

1554
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 11: you know, ken DeShawn get back to that form. Obviously

1555
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 11: we all think he can, and based on what we

1556
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 11: saw last week, he will so. But no, the other

1557
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 11: players on this list, right, Miles Garrett, Nick Chubb, Denzel Ward,

1558
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 11: Joe Patonio. When all those guys got extensions before DeShawn

1559
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 11: was here several years, you know, over the last few years,

1560
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 11: it was all in mind that those guys were the core,

1561
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 11: that was the talk of what they meant to this

1562
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 11: team when we were here. And so I wouldn't change

1563
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 11: the list of guys that he has on this as

1564
01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 11: our roster corps, and I absolutely would have them high

1565
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 11: that number eleven, assuming you know, we see DeShawn able

1566
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 11: to get back to what he the form he was

1567
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 11: at with the Texans.

1568
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 5: Next higher core lower on to.

1569
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 3: Mister Poisel and number one the Kansas City Chiefs their

1570
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:22,839
Speaker 3: roster corps Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelcey, defensive tackle Chris Jones,

1571
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 3: center Creed Humphrey, and guard Joe Thuney. Are they just

1572
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 3: right or should they be lower?

1573
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 2: That corp?

1574
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 3: Anthony Poisel, I don't really think you can argue against

1575
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 3: this at all.

1576
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 11: I just think Pat Mahomes so's the weight that he

1577
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 11: has on the entire roster and really on the entire

1578
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 11: league every game he plays. Is makes the Chiefs a

1579
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 11: good number one choice here. I think the Bengals and

1580
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 11: Eagles are super close to the spot here, but Mahomes

1581
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 11: is always going to lock the Chiefs and into these

1582
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 11: kinds of power rankings. You know, Kelsey's still the top

1583
01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 11: tight end in this league. Chris Jones, he's a top

1584
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 11: five defensive tackle. Creed Humphrey probably the best center in

1585
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:05,680
Speaker 11: the league. Joe Toney also one of the best at

1586
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 11: his positions too so, but Mahomes is definitely the one

1587
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 11: that makes this a true number one corps. So I

1588
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 11: don't have any where to where else to move this.

1589
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 11: They're definitely number one in my opinion.

1590
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 3: Bishop right where they are. Should they be lower? Based

1591
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:19,879
Speaker 3: on the core.

1592
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 2: Well, if you're doing the corps as a whole, I

1593
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 2: could argue they should be lower, but they're also waiting.

1594
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 2: I think what he's doing, and he says so kind

1595
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:31,599
Speaker 2: of in this PostScript, is he's waiting quarterback more, you know,

1596
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 2: giving it more weight, which is appropriate. So if that's

1597
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 2: the case, then yeah, I think it is. I think

1598
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 2: the number that I think is best about this to

1599
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 2: describe kind of like where the Chiefs are. Their average

1600
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 2: core age is twenty eight point six. The Bengals are

1601
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 2: second on list, and I agree that they should be second.

1602
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 2: Their average core age is twenty five point six. That's

1603
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 2: a three year difference. The bengals best players, with the

1604
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:59,640
Speaker 2: exception of Orlando Brown, are young dudes, so they're in

1605
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 2: a big window here in Cincinnati.

1606
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 5: Next higher core lower.

1607
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 3: The Bengals are number two, The Eagles number three of

1608
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 3: their core Jalen Hurts, aj Brown, Lane Johnson, has Son,

1609
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 3: Reddick and Darius Slay takes us to number four. And

1610
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 3: the Miami Dolphins. The Dolphins court Tua Tyreek Hill, Jalen Ramsey,

1611
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 3: Jalen Waddle, and tackle Tron Armstead Bishop higher lower or

1612
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:29,640
Speaker 3: just right. For the Miami Dolphins.

1613
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 2: I like to a lot. But can you imagine, here's

1614
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 2: a hell of a what if for you. Couldn't they

1615
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 2: have just taken Justin Herbert. Yes, so imagine if they

1616
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 2: had this roster and they had Herbert and this is

1617
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 2: I'm not doing this meant as a shot at to

1618
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 2: his talent because I think he proved last year when

1619
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 2: he's healthy, he's really good. Yes, prom is He's never

1620
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 2: been healthy going all the way back to Alabama, Armando,

1621
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 2: we had him on it. It's not just the hippie

1622
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:55,759
Speaker 2: had an ankle at Alabama too, so he's had serious

1623
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 2: injuries literally his entire playing career going back to Kyle,

1624
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 2: So that has to be weighed more. In which case,

1625
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 2: I think maybe they ought to be a little bit

1626
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 2: lower just because I don't know how long TUA can

1627
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 2: stay upright, But if they have, if you just take

1628
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert and his health and put him on this team,

1629
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 2: you could argue Miami's number one poise ol.

1630
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 11: Yeah, Bo, that's a great point about Herbert. This would

1631
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 11: be easily I think a top three, top two, maybe

1632
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 11: even number one, or if they had Justin Herbert in it.

1633
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 11: But every time we talk about the toughen than any

1634
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 11: kind of power rankings with this, it always comes back

1635
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 11: to Tua's health and that's not going to change with

1636
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 11: what we're talking about right now, you know. I mean,

1637
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 11: you see that they've got again Tyreek Hill Kalen Waddle

1638
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 11: that with a healthy Tua is arguably the best receiving

1639
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 11: duo in the league. At least that's the level that

1640
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 11: they played at the first half of the season last

1641
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 11: year when Tua was healthy. And then you know, Jalen Ramsey, Yeah,

1642
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 11: he's getting He's definitely I think he's passed thirty years

1643
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 11: old now, he's getting older, but he had a terrific

1644
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 11: season last year and he's going to be a huge

1645
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 11: for that defense. So I would actually not move the

1646
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 11: Dolphins on this list. But again, it just all comes

1647
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 11: back to if Tula can stay healthy. When healthy, I

1648
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 11: do think this is a top five cores. I think

1649
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 11: they're right here at number four, but it's just all

1650
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 11: about his health and that's just such a big question mark.

1651
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 11: So we'll see if if he's able to stay healthy

1652
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 11: at all this season.

1653
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 3: The history, some of their other defensive players should be

1654
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 3: in the core. I mean, one defensive player. They've got

1655
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 3: some solid.

1656
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 2: Players, Yeah, Hills.

1657
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 12: How good.

1658
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 2: That's probably the best overall receiver in football. Waddle is

1659
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:43,680
Speaker 2: on a short list. And then you have to have

1660
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 2: the quarterback in the core like he's the question mark.

1661
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 2: It was just huge and.

1662
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 3: It's just hell, yeah, I don't know what Armstead, He's good.

1663
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1664
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 5: So next higher core lower.

1665
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 3: Buffalo is number five. They're core is Josh Allen, maybe

1666
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:05,599
Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs, Von Miller, Tree, Davis White, and Matt Mulano.

1667
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 3: Takes us to number six, Bo Bishop, the Dallas Cowboys Corps,

1668
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott, Micah Parsons, Ceedee Lamb, Zach Martin, Trevon Diggs,

1669
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 3: higher lower or just right, mister Bishop.

1670
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 2: I would have them maybe a little lower, really, maybe

1671
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:28,639
Speaker 2: just to touch Parsons and Lamb or elite Martin's elite.

1672
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 2: Digs is really good on the interception front, but he

1673
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 2: gives up a lot too. And I wonder if pet

1674
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 2: if Prescott's seen his best days in the rear view mirror.

1675
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:41,599
Speaker 2: So I would probably move them down just a touch

1676
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 2: on this list. In terms of who I would move,

1677
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:48,720
Speaker 2: there's a bunch here, you know, the real anomaly here,

1678
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 2: and we're running up against in so many bounce around

1679
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:52,640
Speaker 2: just for a second here, if you'll permit me, The

1680
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 2: real tough one in here is San Francisco at ten

1681
01:25:56,200 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 2: because their core is as e lead as it gets

1682
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 2: with Bosa, Trent Williams, McCaffrey, Kittle, and Warner. But they

1683
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 2: don't have a quarterback in their core. And they're the

1684
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:10,600
Speaker 2: only team you know of the top eleven twelve that

1685
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 2: a quarterback is not in their core. So, like, what

1686
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:15,760
Speaker 2: do you do with the forty nine ers? In fact,

1687
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:17,640
Speaker 2: you got to go all the way down. When's the

1688
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 2: next time there's a team without a quarterback in their core?

1689
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 2: They might be the only I think are.

1690
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 11: The toughest team to rank on this list, because how

1691
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 11: can a court really be without a quarterback?

1692
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:31,680
Speaker 2: Right, I'm gonna I'm all the way down to no.

1693
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 2: All right, the next time a quarterback doesn't make a

1694
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:39,719
Speaker 2: core is twenty six with Tampa Bay. So the forty

1695
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:42,680
Speaker 2: nine ers are ten without a quarterback in their core.

1696
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay is the next team at twenty six that

1697
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,759
Speaker 2: doesn't have a quarterback in the corps. Washington doesn't as well.

1698
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 2: That's it, and then that's it. That's the list. Everybody

1699
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 2: else has a quarterback in their core.

1700
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 3: Five I feel like Seattle's core should be ranked higher.

1701
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 3: If we're talking big picture poisl to you here, I

1702
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 3: mean Gino Smith, DK Metcalf, Tyler Lockett, Trek Woland, Charles Cross.

1703
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 2: It's just bet can Gino stack it?

1704
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's the question is can he repeat what he

1705
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 11: did last year? Then that if he can, then I

1706
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 11: think their core absolutely should be bigger because then you

1707
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 11: look at all of their top positions, wide, receiver, cornerback.

1708
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 11: I mean, you go at any of their positions on

1709
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:23,559
Speaker 11: the roster, and they have good players. It's all just

1710
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 11: about and Gino played just as well as he did

1711
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 11: last year. I don't I don't know if he'll be

1712
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 11: able to play better last year. He just seemed as

1713
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 11: good as Gino Smith could possibly play. And he is

1714
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 11: getting older. But if you know can play what he

1715
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 11: played last year, then Seahawks at fourteen this is way

1716
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:39,600
Speaker 11: too low on this list and they honestly could be

1717
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 11: in the top town.

1718
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you another one. I think Baltimore's

1719
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 2: too high. We were talking about Miami with their quarterback

1720
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 2: issues with the health standpoint, when's the last time Lamar

1721
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:53,959
Speaker 2: Jackson played a whole year? When did he play in December.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's been a long time. Yeah, since he's

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Speaker 2: been healthy for a whole year and hasn't missed games.

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Speaker 11: He's got he's got a one in three playoff record.

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Speaker 11: It's it's a roster that looks good on paper, but

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Speaker 11: they haven't the win. Have they been able to really

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Speaker 11: prove it in.

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Speaker 3: Thee and I will I will also tell you this

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Speaker 3: from an average core age, the Texans are at twenty

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Speaker 3: three point four with CJ. Tunsil, will Anderson Stingley and

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Speaker 3: Damian Pierce. Not great, but the one again that we've

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Speaker 3: talked about in the off season. And it's a shame

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Speaker 3: that Jamison Williams got suspended, but him, Penney Sewell, Aiden Hutchinson,

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Speaker 3: Amon Ra Saint Brown and golf average core age twenty

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Speaker 3: three point six. Ye young, both of those teams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, good job, ap.

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Speaker 3: Come to the condo, buddy, come to the county, the

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Speaker 3: undisclosed locations. Yeah.

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Speaker 11: I was gonna say, you just gave it away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I did. We're going to be here until they

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01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 2: drag us out. That's our goal. That could be early July.

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Speaker 2: We'll see good talking Anyboddy, appreciate a guy talk to

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Speaker 2: so much more to come you, let's say Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 2: I saw this quote from Burrow. Was asked, he's so

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Speaker 2: tongue in cheek on everything. If you don't know him,

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01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 2: it comes across such a different way. But he's He

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Speaker 2: was asked what his goals are this season. He said,

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Speaker 2: to be the best in the world. He came out,

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01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:50,759
Speaker 2: he said, he goes Mahome's the best. They're like, well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but you're You're no slops there, buddy. He's right there.

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Speaker 2: But it's I do think it's fun. Like what do

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Speaker 2: you want him to say in those situations? Exactly?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well here's a quot. They're looking for fodder for

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01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 3: that whole contract extension. He said, he's the best. You

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01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 3: gotta pay him, like he's the best? Why is there

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Speaker 3: no contract?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Burrow on Pat Mahomes, I don't think there's any argument.

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Speaker 2: Now it's Pat. Until somebody has a better year than

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Speaker 2: he's had, he's the one to knock off. Yeah he is. Yes,

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Speaker 2: he's the King of the Mountain at this point, but

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Speaker 2: Burrows had more as much success as anybody against him

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Speaker 2: with that Cincinnati corp. I am surprised that deal's not

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Speaker 2: done with him yet, but we'll see. We'll see how

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Speaker 2: it all goes. Interesting week with mini camps this week

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Speaker 2: so and then the NFL kind of takes a little

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Speaker 2: bit of vacation. We'll keep you update on everything as

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Speaker 2: week as along.

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Speaker 3: We're back tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, everybody. The next levels coming up next

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