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Speaker 2: It is good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're aut further ado.

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Speaker 4: That's what the game's all about.

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Speaker 5: All of a sudden, you feel like you can't miss.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna leave it up there.

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Speaker 4: If you couldn't make that, if you tried that to do, absolutely.

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Speaker 5: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast, NBA Edition. I'm your

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Speaker 5: host Matt Moore. Today's Odds of Rock to you by

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Speaker 5: bet MGM, the official OZ provider of the Action Network Podcast.

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Speaker 5: I'm Joway today by Raheem Palmer and Brandon Anderson. As always, Brandon,

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Speaker 5: how are we doing?

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Speaker 6: Big night of basketball ahead of us? Ready for some

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Speaker 6: big games. We're hitting home scratch here, So feeling good?

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Speaker 5: Rahem Palmer, I know that this has been a stressful

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Speaker 5: time for you, giving the uncertainty every single night. How

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Speaker 5: are we hanging in there?

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm good.

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Speaker 2: It's just like I can't complain, you know, I'm very

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Speaker 2: happy with some of my best this week, so hope

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Speaker 2: we can keep turning out these winners.

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Speaker 5: All right. On today's show, we are going to do

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Speaker 5: our marquee events, which is going to be something a

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Speaker 5: little different as we do every kind of week, as

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Speaker 5: we start and hit the stretch run. We're gonna try

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Speaker 5: and give you an idea of the value of potential

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Speaker 5: series that we want to see that we want to bet,

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Speaker 5: not that we want to watch that we want to bet.

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Speaker 5: We'll do that first. We'll also have I'll look back

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Speaker 5: to the futures and a thanks for nothing, as well

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Speaker 5: as we give you an idea of who has been

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Speaker 5: the most pain in our backsides this week? And oh

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Speaker 5: do I have one from Tuesday night to share with

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Speaker 5: you all? All right, let's get started with our NBA marquee.

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Speaker 1: The marquee.

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Speaker 3: Look you here, the shutter from the crowd, all right.

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Speaker 5: On this week's episode, we are drafting our top three

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Speaker 5: selections for series that we want to see. We are

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Speaker 5: twenty one days from the start of the NBA Playoffs,

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Speaker 5: roughly at least if the play in tournament begins and

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Speaker 5: we want, We're going to have a lot of changes

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Speaker 5: will probably be going on as you listen to this

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Speaker 5: or after you listen to this, A lot of things

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Speaker 5: can change. We're actually hosting a locker room on Wednesday night.

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Speaker 5: You can check the Action Network handled for more on

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Speaker 5: that or follow me on Twitter at HP basketball. But

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Speaker 5: we want to get sense for all. Right, Look, certain

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Speaker 5: matchups are just juicy and if you're a better like

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Speaker 5: you'll you can see those ones coming down the road.

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Speaker 5: Last year, we saw Heat Bucks coming a mile away.

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Speaker 5: Like I wrote about it in January, I was like, look,

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Speaker 5: the Heat defense is not good. They're gonna regress, but

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Speaker 5: keep an eye in the playoffs because they're probably gonna

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Speaker 5: beat the Bucks. And then like, that's what happened. We

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Speaker 5: saw that one coming a mile away. I think we

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Speaker 5: probably was at least visible from Raheem's perspective, because Raheems

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Speaker 5: sees everything. And then we have other There's all these

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Speaker 5: you saw that one coming. So let's starry Brandon. Brandon,

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Speaker 5: what's your first choice for a series you want to

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Speaker 6: So I'm coming out of the gates firing here. I'm

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Speaker 6: the Bucks and you. I think it's different this year

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Speaker 6: on the team. This is what they've been doing for

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Speaker 6: years now. That was what did not work against Miami

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Speaker 6: last year because Miami had so many guys shooting. This season,

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Speaker 6: Miami ranks twenty sixth and three point percentage, and I

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Speaker 6: Bucks are going to scheme to take away Miami. I mean, look,

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Speaker 6: Rahim and I have been beating the drum all year.

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Speaker 6: Miami is not good. They're not good. And I want

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Speaker 6: get because of what happened last year. The Bucks are good.

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Speaker 6: The Bucks are better this year than they were last year.

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Speaker 6: When we get to the playoffs, Drew Holliday is not

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Speaker 6: Miami's strength. I just don't think that that series. I

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Speaker 6: want that one.

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Speaker 4: I like it.

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Speaker 5: I like the boldness. I think Raheon Palmer's probably going

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Speaker 5: not sure, Raheem, were your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 2: Miami's always gonna end up in a rock fight. I mean,

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Speaker 2: their offense is just so abysmal that any team can

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Speaker 2: You know, this team just lost to the Bulls without

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Speaker 2: I expect them to move to night against the Spurs,

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Speaker 2: to be honest, like, I don't understand their five point

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Speaker 2: But if you can't score today NBA, you don't have problems.

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Speaker 2: And I think you know Dragic, you know, in the bubble,

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Speaker 2: Crowder played out of his mind. He's gone, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm faint, IMIg, it's almost everybody.

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Speaker 5: Last year at the MGM, official odds provider of the

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Speaker 5: action that were podcast the Heat Bucks series. The Heat

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Speaker 5: were plus three seventy five. That was a one to

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Speaker 6: I didn't remember it being plus three seventy five. I

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Speaker 6: And Miami better than we ought to until proven otherwise.

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Speaker 6: So I think that that's going to close the gap.

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Speaker 6: I think to just not be the one seed and

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Speaker 6: I don't know if it's going to close it enough

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Speaker 6: can't think what that would make Milwaukee in the series

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Speaker 6: and just like playing Milwaukee game to game and banking

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Speaker 5: So let's say I would imagine it would be two

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Speaker 5: you can play that line, right, the win differential between

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Speaker 5: two two and a half. Yeah, so let's see, uh yeah,

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Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing I'm looking at.

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Speaker 6: Even as you're saying that, I'm thinking about, like, Okay,

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Speaker 6: so if Milwaukee opens what do we think they opened them,

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Speaker 6: like four or five points in game one something like that, Like, I.

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Speaker 3: Honestly I think it's closer to seven.

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Speaker 6: So I think the angle, Yeah, I don't like drinking

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Speaker 6: think about selling a few points back. If there's a

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Speaker 6: that angle to say, Okay, if it is you know,

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Speaker 6: if it's more like seven, like Raheem says, maybe not,

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Speaker 6: if it's closer to five, then maybe I might you know,

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Speaker 6: I have to look into it, but I might play

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Speaker 6: I think that there there are ways to get around to.

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Speaker 5: So my only hesitancy here is just that, Like there's

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Speaker 5: no concern in you about Gordon Dragas suddenly turning back

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Speaker 5: into Steve Nash, Like there's no concerning you whatsoever about

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Speaker 5: all the Buckshooters going cold again, like we saw versus

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Speaker 5: Charlotte last night for a long stretch of that game.

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Speaker 5: There's no concern from you that they'll be able to

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Speaker 5: no concern from you on any of these, Like all

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Speaker 5: of a sudden, the heat just become this playoffs behemoth.

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Speaker 5: There's no concern for me.

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Speaker 6: There there's concern, there's just not enough of it like that,

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Speaker 6: What you didn't mention and what I guess I just

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Speaker 4: So I have a little concern.

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Speaker 5: I don't have enough of a You're not superstitious, You're

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the Los Angeles Clippers and the

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Speaker 3: That's just a huge matchup events.

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Speaker 2: And then you know the Clippers have you know, they

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Speaker 3: So I think they played Morris at center with Beverly Bratun,

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Speaker 2: But if you got you know, five guys out there

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna be all over the Clippers, you know, I'll.

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Speaker 2: Lay jukes even on the road, because I just think

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Speaker 6: Rahim, do you feel as confident in that matchup if

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Or keep it.

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Speaker 6: So I think it's a really bad spot for Gobert

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you're right that I don't know what

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Speaker 5: I can't believe I'm gonna do this well. First First, first,

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Speaker 5: I want to say this, I don't think that. I

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Speaker 5: I can't see a scenario we're gonna get it. That's

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Speaker 3: This one.

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Speaker 5: The Lakers' odds of getting up to a three spot

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Speaker 5: and so like that's the dream scenario is like Clippers

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Speaker 5: I'm betting that, and I'm adding to my Clippers nets

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Speaker 5: And I feel like everyone's dismissed it, and I've got

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Speaker 2: This Nuggets team toy're just I mean, I love and

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Speaker 2: I love Aaron Gordon, but it's just Jamal Murray gets

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Speaker 2: And I know they think composible is the goy. But

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Speaker 5: this is the problem of Jazz. It's just like, how

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Speaker 5: And that could definitely happen given the events that are

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Speaker 5: they play. Okay, for weeks, I told you guys that

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Speaker 5: I didn't understand the Charlotte Hornets. For weeks, I didn't

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Speaker 5: I am here to tell you that my number one

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Speaker 5: pick is a unlikely, very unlikely, but still this is

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Speaker 5: my dream matchup four or five between the Miami Heat

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Speaker 5: The money will pour in on the Heat in this series,

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Speaker 5: like you be able to bet the Hornets right up

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Speaker 5: until buzzer and get the probably the best price tip

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Speaker 5: on the Heat.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I'm taking Jimmy Butler. I'm taking Eric Spolser, I'm

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Speaker 5: taking BA Bio like this Charlotte Hornet team, good story whatever.

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Speaker 5: I'm the list of digging on this, on this story

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Speaker 5: that I've been talking to you guys about in our

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Speaker 5: interesting nugget, They're also the team that uses zone the

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Speaker 5: more interesting thing. Let's see everyone knows like that's gonna

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Speaker 5: be the Heat's like, that's the Heat's real wrench that

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Speaker 5: they throw at people. Right, It's like, okay, we're gonna

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Speaker 5: go zone and now you can't shoot like the Celtics

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Speaker 5: absolutely tear it to pieces. So you have a high

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Speaker 5: counter Butler I would be betting this. I would be

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Speaker 5: betting Hornets on the series line. I would be betting

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Speaker 5: Hornets number of wins. I would be betting the differential.

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Speaker 5: I would be betting Hornets and six like, I would

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Speaker 5: be betting that matchup all the way across the board,

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Speaker 5: and everyone is just gonna wind up going like yeah,

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Speaker 5: and two individual talent I think matters more versus individual

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Speaker 5: defensive matchups, Right, the heat are gonna switch a lot,

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Speaker 5: but in actuality, the Hornets are well built to be

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Speaker 5: a switch. The big slips to the basket or the

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Speaker 5: got this momentary moment. You get this one moment where

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Speaker 5: they have enough three pointers and they have enough dribble

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Speaker 5: drive attacks. I love this matchup. I think that Charlotte

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Speaker 5: Hornets are my number one matchup advantage, and I can't

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Speaker 5: believe it's over the heat. But I'm kind of with

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Speaker 5: you Brandon on this. I know Rahem's not gonna argue

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Speaker 5: because he's just like, fade the heat no matter who

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm definitely not gonna argue that.

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Speaker 6: I'm just trying to imagine how the Hornets have made

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Speaker 6: trying to imagine exactly which way you would like Terry

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Speaker 6: Rozier to destroy your money, Like do you prefer for

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Speaker 5: So here's what's crazy you say, Like, you know, how

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Speaker 5: are the Hornets gonna get the four or five? It's

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Speaker 5: pretty simple. The both the New York Knicks are currently

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Speaker 5: check the tie breakers, the Hornets have tie breaker over

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Speaker 5: it versus the Knicks. So you're much more so, like,

434
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 5: it's what.

435
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 4: I think Charlotte I have.

436
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 6: Charlotte has the eighth seed and three and a half

437
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 6: back from the Knicks and Hawks.

438
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 4: Right now, I.

439
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 5: Did it last night. Maybe I didn't after the maybe

440
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 5: the numbers weren't updated. Uh, they are three back. I

441
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 5: will say that they are three back. You're right, they

442
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 5: are three back in the lost column. I think that's

443
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 5: still winnable given the win rates of both teams, Like,

444
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,199
Speaker 5: do you trust the Hawks to keep winning like the

445
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 5: Hawks are probably do. What's gonna be really funny is

446
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 5: when Trey Young comes back and they struggle. That's gonna

447
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 5: be really funny. That's that's that's gonna be an amusing twist.

448
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 5: That's gonna make for all sorts of fun narratives. All right, Brandon,

449
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 5: what's your second pick?

450
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 6: So interestingly enough, I'm gonna make it three out of

451
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 6: four picks involving the same team for us, and I'm

452
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 6: going back to that same four or five matchup and

453
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 6: basically what I want out of the East four five.

454
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 6: To me, I don't think the Hornets have a strong chance.

455
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 6: I don't really consider them here. I think that the

456
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 6: four or five matchup is between Celtics, Heat, Nicks and Hawks.

457
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 6: Now I want is literally any matchup other than Nixon Hawks,

458
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 6: because I want to take either Boston or Miami over

459
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 6: either New York or Atlanta, and whatever matchup we get

460
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 6: in in that four or five, even though we just

461
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 6: railed on the Heat for the last fifteen minutes, I

462
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 6: would take the Heat confidently over the Knicks or Hawks.

463
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 6: I would take the Celtics even more confidently. I would

464
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 6: especially want the Knicks to be there, just because I'm

465
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 6: gonna get much better odds, a much better line because

466
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 6: of the public side on the neck. It just comes

467
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 6: down to me on this one to regular season teams

468
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 6: versus playoff teams, and the Celtics and the Heat. We've

469
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 6: seen them in the playoffs. We know that they know

470
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 6: how to elevate their style of play. We know that

471
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 6: they're adaptable, that they have a lot of different ways

472
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 6: to play. We've seen TIBs teams in the playoffs, and

473
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 6: we know that all the things I just said are

474
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 6: never true of TIBs teams in the playoffs. I think

475
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 6: we're all waiting for the Hawks to get to the

476
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 6: playoffs and.

477
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 4: Not do stuff.

478
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 6: And also we're going to have either Brad Stevens or

479
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 6: Sprolstra against either TIBs or McMillan. In that case, that's

480
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 6: a pretty huge disadvantage. So I just want either the

481
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 6: Celtics or the Heat to get up to the five

482
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 6: seed or four or whatever. I don't care if they're

483
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 6: home court or not. I want to bat one of

484
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 6: them against the Knicks or the Hawks.

485
00:24:53,400 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 5: The Hawks that you're really interesting, right because Trey Young,

486
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 5: John Collins no playoff experience none. You've got Capella that's

487
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 5: played in big games and played well for the most part.

488
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 5: You've got a coach that hasn't coached in the playoffs

489
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 5: in Pierce. You've got I'm sorry McMillan, b mc millan

490
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 5: has That'm sorry. I just remember that mcmpeerce is going

491
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 5: uh mc millan's is coaching the playoffs. So you do

492
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 5: have that. And I will say that like McMillan's done

493
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 5: pretty well in the playoffs throughout his time, Like he's

494
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 5: good in Portland, he was good Indiana. So that's something

495
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 5: they consider. Yeah, guys like Gallo and Bogdanovic, I guess

496
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 5: to a certain degree, maybe.

497
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 6: But are we getting there yet? We're talking ourselves into

498
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 6: them yet.

499
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 5: I Mean that's the thing is, like I don't know

500
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 5: what to expect But the real question is gonna be

501
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 5: what if it's Hawks Knicks? Like Hawks Knicks is gonna

502
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 5: be really fascinating because I don't trust either of those

503
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 5: teams in that spot, Like that's gonna be great. Is

504
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 5: like whoever whoever wins the four to five. If it's

505
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 5: Hawks Knicks, I probably beten that sweep there next second

506
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 5: second round.

507
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 4: That's not gonna say.

508
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 6: Looking at at the East right now, I think we're

509
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 6: under rating. We've talked about how important it is to

510
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 6: get the one seed, but now that the four or

511
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 6: five is looking most likely to be knickx Hawks, that

512
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 6: one seed is way more important than ever. Like they're

513
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,959
Speaker 6: gonna get to play first of all in the East. Again,

514
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 6: I'm not a believer in the Hornets, So I think

515
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 6: that there's seven teams in the East. There's not an

516
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 6: eighth team. Maybe the Hornets are the eighth team. Maybe

517
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 6: it's the Pacers, Wizards, Bowls, whatever, the one seed gets

518
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 6: to play that team. Because I'm assuming that the Celtics

519
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 6: or Heat is the seventh seed in the scenario, so

520
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 6: that's already like a sweep in the first round. Then

521
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 6: the one seed probably gets to play the Knicks or

522
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 6: the Hawks. Meanwhile, the team that didn't get the one

523
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 6: seed fell to two has to face Boston or Miami

524
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 6: in the first round, which is a worse matchup than

525
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 6: the one seed has in either of the first two rounds,

526
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 6: and then they have to play Milwaukee in the second round.

527
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 4: Like the one seed is huge, And.

528
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 6: I didn't realize Brooklyn has pulled out a head that

529
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 6: Philly four game losing streak is is really trouble right now.

530
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: I got to put I mean, are we sure because

531
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 2: at this point the Celtics so that he could fall

532
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: to the eighth seed.

533
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I could.

534
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 2: And I think that's being underrated right now because both

535
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 2: of those teams are just playing so poor that it

536
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 2: would not surprise me if the Hornets, you know, pass

537
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 2: either one of those teams.

538
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, But are the Hornets gonna beat one of

539
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 6: those teams in that first play in because I'm not

540
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 6: picking them to beat them. You know, I don't really

541
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 6: care if they finish at seven or eight in the

542
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 6: regular season standings because I'm still gonna pick Miami or

543
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 6: I mean I put that, yeah, yeah, just beat them

544
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 6: anyways and gets the seventh seed.

545
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 3: Yeah that's true.

546
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 5: But when my Hornets get the sixth seed and then

547
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 5: give the Sixers a run for their money.

548
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 4: You're gonna be don't you like?

549
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 6: Owe money to the Hornets at this point of the season.

550
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 4: Yeah.

551
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 5: They actually they're taking only down in my house at

552
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 5: this point, and it's not not I thank you not

553
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 5: to mention it again, or he wants your second pick.

554
00:27:59,480 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 4: I'm going.

555
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 3: I'm going back to La dude, I'm all. I'm going

556
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 3: with the Los Angeles Clippers and the Los Angeles Lakers.

557
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 2: I want that matchup. I think the Clippers have the edge.

558
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 2: I know it sounds crazy, but we spoke about it earlier.

559
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: The Clippers are the only team who could beat the Lakers.

560
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 3: This is the only team other than the Brooklyn Nets,

561
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 3: in which they'll be an underdog. I've been speaking about

562
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 3: how high I'm in, how high I am on the Clippers.

563
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 2: So it's just like, that's the matchup. I mean, the Lakers,

564
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: they struggle to shoot the three. They're facing the Clippers

565
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 2: team who's the number one three point shooting team in

566
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: the league. They don't have those deficiencies they had last year.

567
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: One of the reasons why I was hoping the Lakers

568
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: played the Clippers last year, because you know, I watched

569
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: that March eighth matchup, you know, on Sunday night, on

570
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: Sunday after noon NBA Basketball, and Lebron basically picked Loug

571
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: Williams and Montrest Harold Park that doesn't exist this year.

572
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: And you know Kawhi and PGA always get up for Lebron.

573
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: You know they're liked to be underdogs. I'm gonna get,

574
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: you know, plus money with a team who might be

575
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 2: the better team. Now they're gonna struggle inside with Anthony Davis,

576
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: but I'll give up two for three any day.

577
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 5: This is a really tough one. This is a high.

578
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 5: Like picking them second is a lot of confidence in it,

579
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 5: Like you are't gonna get I will say this, You're

580
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 5: gonna get a great price on it, right, because like

581
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 5: the Lakers are a public team, and every LA fan

582
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 5: is gonna want to bet that bets is gonna want

583
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 5: to bet on them, because the Clippers a little brother,

584
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 5: and like the narrative betting in the series will be nuts, right.

585
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 5: I will say the Sharps are pretty on top of this.

586
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 5: Like last year I asked them who it would be.

587
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 5: This isn't it. This is one of the most fascinating

588
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 5: things I found last year before the bubble started, I

589
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 5: asked bookmakers, if it's Lakers Clippers and there are fans

590
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 5: in LA, what would you make it? And the series

591
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 5: price was minus I believe one seventy five Lakers. I

592
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 5: asked them on neutral court who it would be and

593
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,719
Speaker 5: they said, I know it's flipped. It was minus one

594
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 5: twenty five Lakers, and then in the bubble they said

595
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 5: it on neutral court with no fans, it would be

596
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 5: Clippers minus one seventy five. So they're basically saying that

597
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 5: in every home game the Clippers are playing a road

598
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 5: game in the series, which is accurate, and like, that's

599
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 5: how they those lines are going to be marked, is

600
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 5: if the Clippers are playing a road game versus the

601
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 5: Lakers in their own building. That's a rough beat. But

602
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 5: I think it also shows you, like the books think

603
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 5: the Clippers are better. The books obviously the Clippers are

604
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,719
Speaker 5: better because they have them on neutral court, but they

605
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 5: do think that the home court advantage has to be

606
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 5: accounted for. Yeah, I think it also shows you if

607
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 5: you think that if you believe the books think that

608
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 5: the Clippers were better last year, which they do, and

609
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 5: we think the Clippers are better this year because they

610
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 5: don't have Harrel? Which did they we do? The question

611
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 5: then becomes what the books are going to make this number?

612
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 5: Like I honestly wonder if this year they would just

613
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 5: make it a pick them and be like I honestly

614
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 5: wonder if they're just gonna make it a pick them

615
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 5: and let the market decide, like, let's make it a

616
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 5: pick them and see where the money comes in. Because

617
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 5: I think the books know the Clippers are should be

618
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 5: the favorite, but they can't make them the favorite. So

619
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 5: like the question of what that line is going to

620
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 5: be I think is is really interesting. Like what both

621
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 5: the game one line and the series price I think

622
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 5: is really interesting in that in that situation, how strong

623
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 5: would you go would you take like the Clippers to win,

624
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 5: you know, two and a half game differential, which would

625
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 5: be like you know for to one, or would you

626
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 5: go like, say, let's say it. I would imagine the

627
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 5: differential is probably gonna be one one and a half

628
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 5: because everything is set for it's it's well, it's probably

629
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 5: gonna be two and a half. Right, It's probably gonna

630
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 5: be two and a half because they're just gonna assume

631
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 5: most series are six. Where would you go on that?

632
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: I wouldn't I wouldn't touch the differential. I just want

633
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: to I want to play the series straight out.

634
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 4: What number is?

635
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 6: If the Clippers are tread as all is the road team,

636
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 6: then that gives Raheem a chance to bet Clippers as

637
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 6: an underdog all seven games, potentially, like whatever the game

638
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 6: one line is with the Lakers opening favored, Raheem gets

639
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 6: to bet them on a money line money line dog

640
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 6: all seven games if he needs to.

641
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, that's a good point, Rahiem. Uh, what's what's

642
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 5: the number you wouldn't take the Clippers at in the series.

643
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 3: If they were laying, If they were laying like, you know,

644
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 3: minus one twenty, I wouldn't take it because I feel

645
00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: like it would be priced properly.

646
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would just pretty much be priced appropriately. I'm

647
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 2: hoping to get I'm a Lakers fan. I don't think

648
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: people realize that I'm a Lakers fan of Sixers fan.

649
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that there's no such thing.

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Speaker 5: I'm just telling you right now, Shoes, you can't be

651
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 5: a Lakers fan of a Sixers fan. You can't be

652
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 5: a fan of the guy that's stepped over Tyler and

653
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 5: a fan of the team that Tyler is playing for

654
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 5: when the Ivers had stepped over him. You can't do that,

655
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 5: not allowed kick aside.

656
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 3: I can't Kobe and Kobe and a A my favorites.

657
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 4: But I just.

658
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 3: For me, I just I can't lay. I can't lay,

659
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 3: you know, juice with the with the Clippers.

660
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 2: It's just at that point, it's price appropriately and I

661
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: want to get some of that Lakers fandom, you know,

662
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 2: pushing this line and giving me a little.

663
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 3: Bit of an edge.

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Speaker 6: Okay, who did you root for in the Sixers Lakers finals?

665
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 6: And who would you root for this year?

666
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: I rooted for Kobe and then back then I would

667
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 3: probably root for the Sixers.

668
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 6: Now unacceptable. At least pick the same team for both times.

669
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 3: It's hard.

670
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why you have to have one team.

671
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 6: If you have to have two teams, pick the Timberwolves

672
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 6: and the Bulls because they're terrible and we'll never play

673
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 6: meaningful Baskebwalls.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, so mine is gonna be pretty obvious.

675
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 5: Second round, it's let's imagine that the Blazers get out

676
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 5: of the play in tournament and they make it into

677
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 5: the sweet sixth spot, that the Mavericks currently occupy big

678
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 5: winning last night for the Mavericks versus the Warriors to

679
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 5: help them with that cause, Let's say that the Blazers

680
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 5: wind to back in six, and let's say that the

681
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 5: Clippers managed to get over the Suns to the two,

682
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 5: and I've got Suns Blazers I want. I honestly, I

683
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 5: want the Sons in that spot, and the Suns will

684
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 5: be heavy favorites. We saw that last year where everyone

685
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 5: it was really funny last year where everyone was like,

686
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 5: this is the most dangerous eighth seed we've ever seen.

687
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 5: It's dame time. And the books are like, we will

688
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 5: not give you a good price on Lakers sweep because

689
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 5: this is gonna be ugly, like the books were not

690
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 5: falling for it. What I will take, though, is I

691
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 5: will take Sun's point differential or game win differential like

692
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 5: I will play that like I'll tell you, Or I'll

693
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 5: take the under on Blazers wins if it's over under

694
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 5: one and a half, I will take the under on that.

695
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 5: I think the Suns destroy them. Sons have been great

696
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 5: versus teams like the Blazers. They've been great. They can.

697
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 5: The best thing about the Suns is they can play

698
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 5: sarch at five, play small ball, switch everything, and that

699
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 5: causes disruptions. Aiden is actually not bad playing at the

700
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 5: level of the screen. He can put a little pressure

701
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 5: on ball handlers. He's a little bit underrated there. And

702
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 5: that's what you honestly need, is you need to be

703
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 5: able to play two on ball. They can also basically

704
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 5: just if you're anticipating it. This is what a lot

705
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 5: of teams do is you can switch it and like,

706
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 5: all right, we're gonna play Crowder at four and instead

707
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 5: of him playing Covington, we're gonna have him play Nurkic,

708
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 5: and then we're gonna have and that way, if they

709
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 5: run that pick and roll, we're just gonna put pressure

710
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 5: on it that way, and that gives you somebody who's faster,

711
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 5: and your weak side defense is eighton and then Aten's

712
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 5: only really and the pressure point there is Covington's left open.

713
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 5: And you basically say, if Robert Covington hits six threes

714
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 5: against us, have that at Portland, and like that's a

715
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 5: pretty sound strategy versus what Portland does. So I just

716
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 5: don't think that I was just going through this yesterday.

717
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 5: There's no way for the Portland Trailblazers to build a

718
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 5: good defense. I was sad about this on Twitter yesterday.

719
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 5: I was just like, there's no way you can't. They tried.

720
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 5: They tried playing two at the level of the screen

721
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 5: in pick and roll early in the season. That didn't work.

722
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 5: They're one of the worst teams in zone coverage this year.

723
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 5: Nothing works for Portland and you're like, well, yeah, they

724
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 5: have bad defensive players, but they've added all these dudes

725
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 5: through the years. They added heartlesson and the Menu. Nope,

726
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 5: that didn't work. They added Covington, Nope, no go, Like,

727
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,479
Speaker 5: no matter what, their defense is just bad. You can't

728
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 5: build a good defense when you have Nurkirchen and Lillard.

729
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 5: You just can't. Like that combination of players. You cannot

730
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 5: build a scheme to work around with, Like your your

731
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 5: ideal situation is dropped and Dame's not good for drop

732
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Speaker 5: because he can't get over screens. I feel like Book

733
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Speaker 5: and CP three would just absolutely tear them up. That's

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Speaker 5: going to be a spot where I want the Blazers

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Speaker 5: there because I feel like people are gonna be like, hey,

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Speaker 5: the Blazers got out of the play and they've they're

737
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 5: through their roughest times. I'm taking dame time versus this

738
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Speaker 5: inexperienced Phoenix team, and I'm gonna under I'm basically going

739
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 5: to play against the Blazers playoff hopes. There.

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Speaker 5: All right, Brandon, final pick. What's your third pick of

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Speaker 5: our of our draft of series we want to bet on?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so my last pick again at I assume what

773
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 6: would be the Eastern Conference finals, and I just want

774
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 6: the Nets over the Sixers. I just don't think that

775
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 6: those two teams are in the same stratosphere. I've been

776
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 6: nets not sixers all season. I'm assuming health here, obviously.

777
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 6: I'm assuming that we're actually seeing Hardin and Kyrie and

778
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 6: Duran out there together. And I know I'm not giving

779
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 6: enough credit to Philadelphia. I know that I need to

780
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 6: probably respect Tobias Harris and Seth Curry a little bit more.

781
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 6: I just look at that series and I see three

782
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 6: superstar score versus one, and I don't know what you're

783
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 6: supposed to do about three verses one, And Ben Simmons

784
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 6: is like, you may you make that a one point five?

785
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 6: We want to count Tobias Harris for something. I'm not

786
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 6: counting Ben Simmons toward that. And I just think Philadelphia's

787
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 6: whole thing is that they're they have an elite defensive

788
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 6: shot profile, and I don't think that matters against Brooklyn.

789
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 6: It's great and Harden and Durant, they're gonna get their shots,

790
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Speaker 6: They're gonna make the hard shots.

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Speaker 4: Anyways.

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Speaker 6: I think if I'm Brooklyn, I'm just basically saying, OK,

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Speaker 6: go ahead, embiid try to beat us, buy us. We're

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Speaker 6: gonna not follow you as best as we can. We're

795
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 6: gonna just let you do as much as you can.

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Speaker 6: And we have Durant and Harden and Kairos are gonna

797
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 6: outscore you and you can't keep up with you don't

798
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 6: have the weapons, you know, the juice, And I don't

799
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Speaker 6: know if I'm confident in Nash and Kyrie and the

800
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 6: other Brooklyn coaches to get there. But you know, the

801
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 6: big question in this series is, so who defends Joelle embiid?

802
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Speaker 4: My question is who cares?

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Speaker 6: I want to go small, put put Durant at center,

804
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 6: put you know, put Jeff Green whatever. And if they

805
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 6: want to just keep posting up and be it all game,

806
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 6: that's great. What are you gonna do on defense?

807
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 4: Now?

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00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 6: I know we can't do that for forty eight minutes

809
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 6: because we can't bang, and we can't we can't live

810
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 6: with that physicality for two weeks of it. But what

811
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 6: is Philadelphia gonna do on defense when suddenly we're just

812
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 6: spaced out on the floor and hardness picking things apart,

813
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 6: and Katie and Kyrie are doing their thing. I just

814
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 6: all season long, I don't think that the best version

815
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 6: of these teams have been in the same universe as

816
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 6: each other. And I know that the Nets are gonna

817
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Speaker 6: be favored here.

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Speaker 4: I don't care. I just want the Nets.

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Speaker 6: Anyways, I just I can't envision what this scenario is

820
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 6: where Philadelphia beats healthy Nets team four times out of seven.

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Speaker 3: What if? What if the Nets are this year's version

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00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 3: of the Clippers.

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Speaker 6: Oh absolutely that. That's been the fear with them all year.

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Speaker 6: We just didn't see them all year. We haven't seen

825
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 6: them gel and what if the shots just don't fall?

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Speaker 6: That's the what if?

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Speaker 2: Right?

828
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it.

829
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Speaker 5: But the difference though is like if the Nets get

830
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 5: to the Eastern Conference Finals, you're one step away, right,

831
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Speaker 5: Like a big reason the Clippers lost last year is

832
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 5: because they didn't take the Nuggets seriously. And like I

833
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 5: knew they wouldn't. That's why about the Nuggets, Like they

834
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 5: wouldn't they they did not take them seriously. They went down.

835
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 5: They went down when the when the Nuggets tied it

836
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 5: three to three, Like at three to two, Paul George

837
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 5: was still like, we're fine, we're not worried whatever, We're

838
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 5: still in control. Three three, they were like, we're fine,

839
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 5: we're still in control whatever. Like you have to you

840
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 5: have to have appropriate fear. I don't think the Nets

841
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 5: have appropriate fear. I'll say that, but I think they

842
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 5: would have appropriate fear of the Sixers. That's the problem

843
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 5: is like, now we'll say this is the biggest thing

844
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Speaker 5: that I disagree with you on, Brandon when I think

845
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 5: it through. Its schematically Okay, the Clippers play and pick

846
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 5: and roll a version of ice. It's they dropped the

847
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 5: big but they force everything away from the side to

848
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 5: the sides they don't want. They don't want you in

849
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 5: the middle because then you can pass to either side.

850
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 5: The reason you play drop is it allows your guys

851
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 5: to stay home on shooters, which I think that's they're

852
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 5: eighth in three point attempts one hundred possessions allowed. They

853
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 5: allowed the eighth fewest. That's really good if you're playing

854
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 5: the nets right, like you want to stay home and

855
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 5: not allow Joe Harris to absolutely rip you apart. So

856
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 5: like this is like a The big thing is the

857
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 5: stars are not even often the differential, the difference maker.

858
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 5: The problem is that the stars put so much pressure

859
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 5: on you that they break your defensive scheme, and that's

860
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 5: when the other guys kill you. The Sixers entire scheme

861
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 5: is built to not do that. That They're basically like,

862
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 5: we're gonna give you this, Okay, if you want to

863
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 5: try and beat us one on like one versus five,

864
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 5: go at it. Now the Nets have the dudes to

865
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 5: do that. And the other key here is the Nets

866
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 5: won't run pick and roll all that much. But but

867
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 5: if you're telling me that I'm running against a heavy

868
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 5: ISO team and I have to find a team full

869
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 5: of defensive personnel to be able to contain that, it

870
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 5: is one hundred percent the Sixers. Harris has been good

871
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 5: this year, like he's really gotten better the last couple

872
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 5: of years. Ben Simmons is elite, titles elite. They have

873
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 5: all these guys that are elite defensively on the perimeter

874
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 5: that can guard Kyrie and like you're not guarding Kyrie

875
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 5: and Harden and shutting them down. What you're basically trying

876
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 5: to do is you're just trying to force them to

877
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 5: the rim and trusting in beads rim protection. Okay, they'll

878
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 5: have all the mid range stuff they want. They'll be

879
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 5: able to play versus that drop. Kyrie comes off mid

880
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 5: range jumper. Kyrie comes off mid range jumper. Kyrie comes

881
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 5: off like does a little hesitation move, insane finish at

882
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 5: the rim. Oh, Kyrie Irving's so skilled. All of these things,

883
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 5: they'll absolutely have that, but you're just trying to drag

884
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 5: them down enough and your switch, your switch problem, I

885
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 5: think does run into this issue because you're like, go

886
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 5: off EMBIID. You're not gonna be able to score enough. No,

887
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 5: but you will foul out Jeff Green and then you'll

888
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 5: fill out DeAndre Jordan and then you'll file out Claxton

889
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 5: and now you're having to play Katie at five. Now

890
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 5: Katie's picking up fouls. That's like, that's the pressure point

891
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 5: is Embiad's ability to draw fouls in there. Now they'll

892
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 5: send doubles and that will disrupt things and it's gonna

893
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 5: be big on. But here's here's a big thing with it.

894
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 5: With the doubles, you have to have great defensive communication,

895
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 5: which means you need to have chemistry, which means you

896
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 5: need to have actually played together, which the nets haven't.

897
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 5: So I can't go with you on that. I have

898
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 5: to really think about it and see how both teams

899
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 5: are playing. Like, I think that matchup is going to

900
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 5: be absolutely fascinating.

901
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, the funny thing is this was actually my pick,

902
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 3: but in reverse.

903
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 2: Yes, that's funny because I look at it like this,

904
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 2: The nets are going to be huge face to anybody,

905
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 2: And if there's anybody who's gonna who's gonna have value

906
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 2: against the next Nets, is gonna be the Sixers who

907
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 2: can dominate inside. You know, I watched last night's Raptors game.

908
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 2: I think the Raptors, what did they do last night?

909
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: And offensive rebound rate of like thirty, Like they they

910
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 2: really struggled with Siakam and ogn Andobi and you know

911
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 2: who's the other guy out there last night, Birch, Like

912
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: they really struggled, Like Birch had fourteen rebounds. So it's

913
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: like I'm expecting, you know, em B into Tobias Harrison

914
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 2: is gonna get whatever he wants in the mid range.

915
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 3: Whatever he wants m B is dominate in the mid range.

916
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: Like I just think the Nets are too small and

917
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: they're relying on three guys or two who are really

918
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 2: injury prone. I think for me, the biggest problem I

919
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 2: actually have the matchup is I think the Sixers don't

920
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: have anybody to guard to defend smaller guard, Like smaller

921
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 2: guards have always gone off against the Sixers. So I'm

922
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: worried about Kyrie actually more than I'm worried about d

923
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: Rant because I think they have two guys in Ben

924
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: Simmons and Tobias Harris, so they can throw at the

925
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,479
Speaker 2: print and make it tough on him, and Durant's gonna

926
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 2: be expected to, you know, guard on the other end,

927
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: if you put him at center and you put him

928
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: at power forward, he's got to bang around.

929
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 3: And if you bang him around.

930
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 2: In a five, six, seven game series, those shots may

931
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: not fall the end of the series. So I think

932
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 2: this is this is one of those series where if

933
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 2: you can get the Sixers plus one and a half

934
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 2: or something like that plus two and a half, I

935
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: think you got a good bet.

936
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 5: Can we change your mind?

937
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 4: Brandon?

938
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 5: Are you still just like Nope? They have Kyrie and

939
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 5: KD and this.

940
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 6: So here's here's here's where I disagree with what you

941
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 6: decided to Rahiem. You just went through a whole, like

942
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 6: three minute thing about why the Sixers are gonna beat

943
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 6: the nuts, and I'm pretty sure you failed to mention

944
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 6: in the entire three minutes James Harden, who is literally

945
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 6: why this team is not the Clippers, Because your whole

946
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 6: thing with the Clippers, why it didn't work last year

947
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 6: is that when the shots didn't fall, they didn't have

948
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 6: backup plan.

949
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 4: They didn't have a.

950
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 6: Point guard who could just go create and break down

951
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 6: the defense and find teammates. What did we just watch

952
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 6: James Harden do for like three months? He was the

953
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 6: best non Jokic player in the league, and maybe almost

954
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 6: as good as him. He was in o MVP conversation.

955
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,919
Speaker 6: I convinced you guys that we actually had to talk

956
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 6: about him. That's how good he was. And that's what

957
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 6: they have. It's not just jump shooters. It's James Harden

958
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 6: doing the things that he's really good at, not shooting

959
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 6: thirty eight percent in the playoffs because you now as

960
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 6: teammates to do the better shots for him. He's creating

961
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 6: those for them. And I know the Sixers have really

962
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 6: good defenders. They're gonna throw Simmons, They're gonna throw table

963
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 6: like it's not gonna be easy. But they only have

964
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 6: so many of those guys. And now that you know

965
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 6: now the matist's table is out there defending, someone got

966
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 6: to do something on the other end of the court too.

967
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 6: And I don't know that you're right, Matt. You're right

968
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 6: that if there is a team to defend this version

969
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 6: of isoball sort of nets team, it has to be

970
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 6: the sixers. They have those guys. That's I love watching

971
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 6: the team because of that. I just at the end

972
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 6: of the day, I feel like I think that a

973
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 6: team is going to have to in some ways beat

974
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 6: the Nets at their own game and outscore them. I

975
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 6: don't see a team like pulling. I don't see a

976
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,479
Speaker 6: team playing the Nets and suddenly we're getting like ninety

977
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 6: nine ninety six games, Like the Nets just aren't scoring

978
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 6: ninety nine points in a game. If those three guys

979
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 6: are out there, I think you're gonna have to switch

980
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 6: up your style and score enough points and beat them

981
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 6: one twenty five to one twenty or whatever. And I

982
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 6: don't I don't know if I can see Philadelphia's scoring

983
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 6: in the one hundred and twenties or whatever. It takes

984
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 6: four times to get there, even against the Brooklyn defense.

985
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

986
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: I can easily see the Nets facing adversity for the

987
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: first time all year, you know, them going down to one,

988
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 2: and for me, if I have Philadelphia at plus money,

989
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 2: all I need is for them to take a series

990
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 2: lead and then I can come back on the other side.

991
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 2: So it's just like that's something I do frequently, and

992
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 2: I could see that This could be the series where

993
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 2: that actually happens, because the Nets are gonna struggle, They're

994
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 2: gonna have some moments where Philadelphia is gonna get so

995
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 2: many offensive rebounds, They're just gonna they're gonna have fifteen

996
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 2: more possessions or something like that.

997
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 3: Kevin Durant's gonna get in foul trouble. James Harden he's

998
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 3: recovered from a hamstring injury. They say he's gonna miss

999
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 3: the first round of the playoffs possibly, Like, we just

1000
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 3: don't know.

1001
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 2: I just think there's so much uncertainty, and we know

1002
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 2: he's gonna We know that Net's gonna be a favorite.

1003
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 3: You're gonna get a good price on the Sixers.

1004
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know, it's even better than putting a

1005
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 6: bunch of money on Philly and then hedging by playing

1006
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 6: the other side, just not losing any money on Philly,

1007
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 6: just winning money off of Brooklyn.

1008
00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 4: That's even better.

1009
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 5: But that doesn't maximize your your edge. Doesn't maximize your edge.

1010
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 5: And the other thing I would say is my final

1011
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 5: point here is you went through this entire thing and

1012
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 5: you're like, and you forgot about James Harden. As if

1013
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 5: that's supposed to convince me that in the playoffs, that's

1014
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 5: a reason to back them.

1015
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 6: Like, look all, James Harden has been good in the playoffs.

1016
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 6: He's had bad moments, he's been good overall.

1017
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 5: Look, I have devoted more time in my career to

1018
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 5: James Harden than anybody else, right, Like Lebron's a close

1019
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 5: second in terms of the amount of time I've spent

1020
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 5: doing film work and writing and asking questions and all

1021
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 5: these types of things. Okay, James Harden is the number

1022
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 5: one guy I've spent more time on than anybody, even

1023
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 5: like everybody's like, you know, the Denver stuff. I'm like, no,

1024
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 5: I've I've done a lot on Jokic. I haven't done

1025
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 5: nearly as much on Yokic as I have on Harden.

1026
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 5: Harden specifically has a like there there are things that

1027
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 5: are intangible you have to account for when you're betting,

1028
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 5: And there is absolutely a problem that when Harden faces

1029
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 5: when things get tough, Harden has a real problem, Like

1030
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 5: he does not have the mental fortitude to keep going

1031
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 5: at you when it's so difficult. And that's like, this

1032
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 5: is not that he's like mentally soft or any of

1033
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 5: these other like prerogatives. I am telling you it is

1034
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:19,959
Speaker 5: a trend in which I think that his specific performance,

1035
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 5: he gets frustrated trying to solve the problem because in

1036
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 5: the regular season the problem is very easy, and when

1037
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 5: the problem gets harder to solve, I think he struggles.

1038
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 5: And you can say, like, he's not gonna have to

1039
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 5: do that because of Kyrie and Kat and I think

1040
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 5: it's a good point, right, But like Raheem will tell

1041
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 5: you all about kdi's foibles in the playoffs and how

1042
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 5: he hasn't stepped up enough, which is a little bit insane.

1043
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 5: Harden absolutely has those. And then like, look, I'm just

1044
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 5: gonna be real honest with your Kyrie Irving hit a

1045
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,720
Speaker 5: big shot in Game six, had to really get big

1046
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 5: game or in game seven, had a really big game

1047
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 5: in Game six, in Game five. I've never been impressed

1048
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 5: with Kyrie Irvings's playoff performance outside of like a big

1049
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 5: shot and then game five in Game six twenty sixteen,

1050
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 5: like I've never get he a.

1051
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 3: Game five against the Celtics in twenty eighteen. But other

1052
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 3: than that, I agree with you. I think what.

1053
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 2: Harden is that he he's so dependent on fouls, and

1054
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: I call it trichnology or trickology in the regular season

1055
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 2: where he's just trying to trick and full referees.

1056
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 3: Into you know, giving him calls that.

1057
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 2: When it comes to tough playoff defense, he doesn't know

1058
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 2: how to handle it. When you know Reps swallowed a

1059
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 2: whistle against Philly, you know, coming back off a hamstring injury.

1060
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 3: That's that's a tough spot.

1061
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 6: So we don't want to bet on the player that

1062
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 6: is drawing a ton of fouls and guinness heep fowls

1063
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 6: and lots of trips to the free throw line that

1064
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 6: it might not keep up. So Joel Embiid, that's what

1065
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 6: we're talking about.

1066
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 1: Brandon Anderson is a hater.

1067
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 4: It's a little.

1068
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: Different with Embiid because he actually kind of gets no.

1069
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: I'm just saying he actually gets those calls into playoffs

1070
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 2: like we've seen hard.

1071
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 6: Shrubbering like the first round, and we've never seen him

1072
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 6: actually play a meaningful playoffs.

1073
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 2: So we have we I mean like they I mean, honestly,

1074
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 2: if he doesn't get sick against the Raptors, I think

1075
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 2: he was sick in in Game five, they win that series.

1076
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 5: But the problem is, like raheem the trip there is

1077
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 5: like you can't feel, you can't feel good, he's going

1078
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 5: to play the whole series either, and then.

1079
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,720
Speaker 3: They didn't have a good backup. They had Greg Monroau.

1080
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 5: It's always something like, it's always something it is, so

1081
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 5: all right. My last one is I'm I'm going against

1082
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 5: Raheem's pro Clippers environment. I want the Suns versus the Clippers.

1083
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 4: Yes, that was my last pick. Also that.

1084
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 5: I don't I don't think I'm taking the series price.

1085
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 5: I think I'm probably taking either differential or over games one.

1086
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 5: So a lot of it is I gotta have the

1087
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:07,240
Speaker 5: Suns solely healthy. If I don't have Sorwitch, I'm out. Okay,

1088
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 5: If I don't have Crowder, I'm out.

1089
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 4: That's it.

1090
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 5: If those guys get hurt mid series, I'm going the

1091
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 5: other way.

1092
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 4: M hm.

1093
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 5: The Clippers are still playing drop because they still play

1094
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 5: Zubach like they're still playing that. They are playing some

1095
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 5: stuff a little bit more. They switch a lot, right,

1096
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 5: especially when Zubach is not on the floor. But the

1097
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 5: Sons I think are pretty confident being able to beat

1098
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 5: the switch like CP three. The biggest thing with switches,

1099
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 5: like you gotta be able to break down dudes off

1100
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 5: the dribble, and you gotta have somebody that can slip

1101
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 5: Deander Ayton can slip and Paul will find him. So

1102
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 5: if they try that switch, Aiden's gonna eat him, Like

1103
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 5: he's just gonna eat him up. He's gonna He's gonna

1104
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 5: be just like Aiden will have a monster game. Meanwhile,

1105
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 5: if it gets into a point point where it's like, look,

1106
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 5: we're just you know, we can't contain. We gotta be

1107
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 5: able to switch more on the Clippers, the Suns can

1108
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 5: go the other way and they can now like the

1109
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 5: counter here is like the Clippers brought in Abaca almost

1110
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 5: specifically for this purpose, right, it is like put Abaca

1111
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 5: at five and switch everything. But I feel better about

1112
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 5: Sarich and Crowder guarding PG and Kawhi possession after possession

1113
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 5: with some help. With some help, then I do serge

1114
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 5: Abaka after an injury plague season trying to guard CP

1115
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 5: three on the perimeter. I like the Sun's makeup. I

1116
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 5: think that they have a very US against the world mentality.

1117
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 5: I think they have a very nobody believes in US,

1118
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 5: which I always do. Like, like these are narrative things.

1119
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 5: I think there's narrative stuff that you can definitely bet on,

1120
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 5: Like this stuff still plays out in sports, it is

1121
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 5: good to be the team that everybody dismisses. That's where

1122
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 5: you want to be. You never want to be the

1123
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,240
Speaker 5: team that everybody's like, a, you're gonna be great. Everything's

1124
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 5: gonna be fine, but there's no reason to worry. Brandon

1125
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 5: Anderson says, you're gonna you're gonna beat six yers. It's fine.

1126
00:56:59,440 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 3: Everything.

1127
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 5: You don't want to be there.

1128
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 3: If three beat the Clippers, like that would be the

1129
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 3: all time, like one of the best stories ever.

1130
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 5: Huge narrative, right, like massive, This is the this is

1131
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 5: the whole thing with the Clippers is I still don't

1132
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 5: see enough evidence that they play with enough of an edge,

1133
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 5: like they're just basically trying to be like, yeah, we're good,

1134
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 5: we're gonna beat you. We're really good. You gotta you

1135
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 5: gotta have a little bit of a hunter mentality, you

1136
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 5: gotta you gotta like the playoffs are hard. I'm sorry,

1137
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 5: the playoffs are really hard. And I still don't see

1138
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 5: enough leadership from Kawhi Leonard. I think PG has been fantastic.

1139
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 5: That's one reason, Like I'm a little bit like I

1140
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 5: don't know because Pg's he's a problem this year, but

1141
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 5: it's enough to where like every like, I feel like

1142
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 5: the books are gonna have to make the Clippers heavy favorites,

1143
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 5: even even here's the thing, very good chance Sons have

1144
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 5: home court advantage in that series with fans, m so

1145
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 5: I like the Clippers a lot. I like the Sons

1146
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 5: a lot versus the Clippers, and that's in that matchup.

1147
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like I said that, that was my other pick.

1148
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 6: In our slack last night, Rahiem said that he had

1149
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 6: the one that he really liked. And I knew it

1150
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 6: had to be something with the Clippers because it's been

1151
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 6: something of the Clippers for weeks now, and and I

1152
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 6: was I was out on a lock when I saw that,

1153
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 6: and I was just typing Sons Clippers as one of

1154
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 6: my picks possibly into the into my little list. I

1155
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 6: like McHale bridges what he would be able to do

1156
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 6: against PG or Kawhi. I kind of like eight and

1157
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 6: in the series, Like you said, the narrative thing I

1158
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 6: think is huge. The Clippers have everything to lose, like that,

1159
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 6: they have everything to lose, that that their their free

1160
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 6: agents at the end of the season, right, Kawhi and

1161
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 6: PG both and they would have back to back huge

1162
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 6: chokes in the playoffs that they'd have to deal with,

1163
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 6: and aside, what are we gonna do? Are we staying?

1164
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 6: Wait one of the did one of them sign? Did

1165
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 6: they sign on?

1166
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 5: No?

1167
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 6: I forget Yeah, but either way, it's just it isn't

1168
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 6: everything to lose versus everything to win thing.

1169
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 4: And I agree too.

1170
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 6: I'm not saying that he is the best player in

1171
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 6: the series, but the player that I would trust most

1172
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 6: in that series is Chris Paul. I would trust him

1173
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,959
Speaker 6: and I like the matchup a lot for him. And yeah,

1174
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 6: I was trying to decide to like. The reason I

1175
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 6: didn't pick it is because I'm like, oh am I

1176
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 6: really picking that series win? I don't know if I'm

1177
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 6: picking the series win, but I would definitely be betting

1178
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 6: a lot of Sons games at the least.

1179
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 5: I think Rahem wants our money. That's the look on

1180
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 5: his face. Is he wants our money?

1181
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 3: No, you know what I mean.

1182
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 2: I'm really thinking about it because you guys know how

1183
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 2: much I love the Suns this year.

1184
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 3: So I'm just I don't know. I feel like I'm

1185
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm picking one brother over the other.

1186
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 5: Here's a real question. Here's a real question. If you

1187
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 5: ask me who's the third guy for the Sons in

1188
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 5: the series? All right, booked n CP three. Who's the

1189
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 5: third guy? I gun say it might be Aiden, it

1190
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 5: might be Sorry, it might be Cam Johnson. Honestly, he's

1191
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 5: been crowded. It might be crowded, it might be bridging crowded.

1192
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 5: If you're the Clippers, who's the third guy?

1193
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 4: Right, That's all I was gonna say. It's probably Morris,

1194
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 4: Reggie Jackson, Reggie Jackson.

1195
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 3: It ain't Reggie Jackson.

1196
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 5: I will tell you this if you if you tell

1197
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 5: me that the key of the series is Marcus Morris,

1198
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 5: I am inherently gonna put money against you.

1199
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 3: I'm just saying. I mean, like, it's gotta be him

1200
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 3: or at Bacha.

1201
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 5: Marcus Morris somehow got punked by Paul millsapp last year, Like, yeah,

1202
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 5: that was strange, like Paul's thirty five and not necessarily

1203
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 5: the I'm gonna get mad type of dude, and he

1204
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 5: was mad.

1205
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 3: This This briks my heart as a Philly guy. Yeahs

1206
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 3: my heart. All right, this has been fun.

1207
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:43,439
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1208
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1224
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 5: we're going to go through our back to the Future.

1225
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 5: This is where we talk about futures that we wish

1226
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 5: that we had made earlier in the season. Back to

1227
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 5: the Future. Don't Brandon, I hear that you've got one

1228
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 5: for us.

1229
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I wish that I had put some money on

1230
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 6: Tom Tippodeau for Coach of the Year while it was

1231
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 6: still available. I don't even see it up at bet

1232
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:58,240
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1233
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 6: at other books. I don't know if it's out there.

1234
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 6: It's bounced around a week or two ago. When I

1235
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 6: was looking at it and eyeballing it, it was at

1236
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Speaker 6: about plus five hundred at bet MGM, and I think

1237
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 6: we saw it at eleven hundred at other books at

1238
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 6: the time, and I have since have seen it drop closer.

1239
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 6: Not quite to Evan odds, but to me, we've been

1240
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 6: We've decided months ago that Quinn Snyder was gonna win

1241
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 6: Coach of the Year. We just decided the Jazz were

1242
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 6: so good they won twenty out of twenty one games,

1243
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 6: and we're like, okay, give all the Jazz, all the

1244
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 6: We're done. Clarkson, you win, Gobert, you win, Quinn Snyder,

1245
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 6: you win. Is how we do awards. We just we're like, okay,

1246
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 6: back to MVP, the one that we want to talk about.

1247
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 6: Let's talk about that one. The Jazz you get all

1248
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 6: the other ones, and now the you know, it's getting closer.

1249
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 6: The one seed races up for grabs, and I feel

1250
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 6: like everyone's just kind of defaulted to Okay, Well, the

1251
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 6: winner of Coach of the Year is just whoever wins

1252
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 6: the one seed. We'll give it to Quinn and we'll

1253
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 6: give it to Monty, and I think both those guys

1254
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 6: have done a great job this year and been very deserving.

1255
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 6: I also think that Utah and Phoenix, of all the

1256
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 6: teams in the West, have been by far the healthiest

1257
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 6: and had compared to the Clippers, compared to the Lakers.

1258
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 6: Going into the year, people would have expected Lakers and

1259
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 6: Clippers to be at the top of the West, and

1260
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 6: then after that people would have probably just figured Suns, Jazz,

1261
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 6: Nuggets are gonna compete for those spots. After that, that's

1262
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 6: basically the West we have left is just that the

1263
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 6: Clippers and Lakers slid down because they have the injuries.

1264
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 6: Nobody thought the Knicks, we're gonna be the four seed.

1265
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 6: New York fans didn't even think the Knicks, we're gonna

1266
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 6: be the four seed. Like the Knicks over under for

1267
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 6: this season was like nineteen and a half wins or something.

1268
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 6: They passed through over under like a month and a

1269
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 6: half ago. The Coach of the Year I think should

1270
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 6: be about the team that the coach that got the

1271
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 6: most out of his players, and we're gonna give most

1272
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 6: improved to Julius Randall. We should, But nobody saw this

1273
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 6: coming from the Knicks. No one saw their defense holding up.

1274
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 6: We've talked about it on our podcast all year that it.

1275
01:03:58,240 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 4: Wasn't going to.

1276
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 6: I think, and it's New York, and it's like, we

1277
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 6: don't nobody needs to tell the media to talk about

1278
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 6: New York and get excited about what's happening there. They

1279
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 6: just want nine in a row. They almost beat the

1280
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 6: Suns to get the ten in a row. I think

1281
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 6: Thibodeau should be the Coach of the Year, and I

1282
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 6: think that he has a real chance to win it.

1283
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 6: I don't see any word to bet it anymore, and

1284
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 6: I think the odds are gone.

1285
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 5: He'll be third Brandon. He's not gonna win nine wins.

1286
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 5: Nine enough wins in the East. Like this nine game

1287
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 5: winning streak was really fun. You got it, like you're

1288
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 5: betting at this moment in time, versus like the next

1289
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 5: loss of the Suns, the next actually face Like other

1290
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 5: teams that are good the rest of the way, they

1291
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 5: will settle down a little bit and at that point,

1292
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 5: like they just won't have enough wins versus versus, like

1293
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 5: the Jazz have been like the most dominant team in

1294
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 5: the regular season, night in, night out for months, for months.

1295
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 5: Like winning the Western Conference this year is a big accomplishment.

1296
01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 5: Whether it's the Suns or the Jazz, it's honestly insane

1297
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 5: that the Sons have kept up with with Utah, Like

1298
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 5: I think that that that This is why I wish

1299
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 5: we could bet on over underplacement on awards is because

1300
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 5: I think there's would be great value on TIBs to

1301
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 5: get third, Like I think I think TIBs probably does

1302
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 5: get third, but first and second are gonna get first

1303
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 5: place votes are gonna get split between Money and Snyder,

1304
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 5: and I don't feel like there's gonna be like.

1305
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 6: But that's part of my case too, is is what

1306
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 6: if those votes split between those two and you're gonna

1307
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 6: have like the b because.

1308
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 5: Here's the king, here's the key. Even if you're right

1309
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 5: that TIBs gets all the second place votes on those ballots,

1310
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 5: which is unlikely, right, Like, you need TIBs to get

1311
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 5: all the second place votes on those ballots otherwise it

1312
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 5: cancels out. And the other thing is like TIBs isn't

1313
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 5: gonna get enough first place votes, and the first place

1314
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 5: votes get a certain point allotment. I think it's five points,

1315
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 5: and that differentials just it's huge. Like that's why you

1316
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 5: very rarely see second place votes deciding an award. They

1317
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 5: designed it that way because that they don't want is

1318
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 5: they don't want like, especially like this year, they wouldn't

1319
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 5: want Jokic winning MVP over somebody like Lebron or Embiid

1320
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 5: just because he got second place votes. They don't want that. Like,

1321
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 5: it's designed for the first place most to decide the award.

1322
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 5: They do it so that's like, hey, look how many

1323
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 5: points you got. It's like a token, but it's not.

1324
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 5: It's not serious. Like I hear, I hear you, and

1325
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 5: your case is sound as always. You have like and

1326
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 5: like I think if you have bet it once again,

1327
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 5: you can cash out at like you know, you've doubled

1328
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 5: your value already without having to worry about who wins the award.

1329
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 5: But I don't think he can win.

1330
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 6: Yeah's at plus eleven a week or two ago. I

1331
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 6: think that that I would I would love to be

1332
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 6: holding that ticket right now. I'm not going to bet

1333
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 6: it even if it opens back up. You know, I

1334
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 6: think I think the the narrative has switched enough that

1335
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 6: he's in the race enough now that the odds aren't

1336
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 6: valuable anymore for him to be able to win it anymore.

1337
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 5: So I'm actually looking back at our preseason awards, and

1338
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 5: the only one that really did well is a predictably

1339
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 5: Raheem because Raheem's are really really sharp.

1340
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 3: I did well.

1341
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 5: I'm trying to think, what did I have had You

1342
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 5: had two MVP bets, one on Luke at plus four

1343
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 5: hundred and one on mb at plus four thousand. So

1344
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 5: even though like nobody could have really bet Yoki, I

1345
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 5: don't think coming in, especially coming off of the Conference

1346
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 5: finals appearance, and then you had six man Jordan Clarkson

1347
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 5: plus seven hundred, my man plus seven hundred. You got Clarkson.

1348
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 5: That's the one that I still I look back and

1349
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 5: despite Joe Ingle's brilliant shooting performances, I think like Clarkson's

1350
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 5: gonna win. And that was a really obvious pick once

1351
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 5: you realized that Lou Williams is probably not part of

1352
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 5: the Clippers future. That had to have been like the move,

1353
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 5: like that needed to be the move again, the Anthony

1354
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 5: Mountain next year, I feel really confident in but like

1355
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 5: I grabed norm who what like because of the raptors

1356
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 5: in sanmanity this year wound up starting a bunch of games.

1357
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 5: But like the one that I look at it and

1358
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 5: go like, man, Clarkson was absolutely gonna come off the

1359
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 5: bench and he was absolutely gonna get the points. And

1360
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 5: this is the biggest thing is at the end of

1361
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 5: the year, most most voters aren't gonna have looked the

1362
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 5: six Man of the Year, like the hardcore ones like

1363
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 5: Zach Low. Yeah, most of the voters are going to

1364
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 5: have not thought a second about six man and only

1365
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 5: right now are gonna look at it, and they're gonna

1366
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 5: go on Basketball Reference and they're gonna sort by most

1367
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 5: games played with the fewest games started, and they're gonna

1368
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 5: look at points and they're gonna be Jordan Clarkson and

1369
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 5: he's gonna win. So that was like, that's mine. Was like, man,

1370
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 5: that was a really great pick that I wish I

1371
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:38,639
Speaker 5: come up with. So that's my back to the future

1372
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 5: is Jordan Clarkson for six Man of the Year.

1373
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 2: You know, when I think about that, Rookie of the

1374
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 2: Year was really really because we had no real summer

1375
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 2: league or anything like that. So it's just like, I'm

1376
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 2: I'm super disappointed. I just didn't see the Lamello. I

1377
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 2: didn't know he was gonna be this good.

1378
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 5: But Justin banded, No, you didn't pick Obi top and

1379
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 5: over him unnecessary, Brandon, I was not necessary. I did bet,

1380
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:05,759
Speaker 5: brand I did bet.

1381
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:06,759
Speaker 3: I did.

1382
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 5: I did bet Justin Fan Obi Topping versus LaMelo ball

1383
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 5: versus the field. If it was the field that was wise.

1384
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 5: I was like, there's like a great chance somebody else wins,

1385
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 5: even if it's not Obi Topping, and now it's definitely.

1386
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 5: But the good news is that when LaMelo got to

1387
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 5: plus two hundred, I went at him every book I have,

1388
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 5: every book I have. I put in a bet at

1389
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 5: LaMelo ball plus two hundred. So I'm still going to

1390
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 5: profit way more. That's going to offset my my cost

1391
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 5: on having to pay Justin Fan on that, and it'll

1392
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 5: help out with having to pay off Rahiem for nets

1393
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 5: or sixers was it? Which one was it? Or six

1394
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 5: or Celtics six or Celtics with the sixers obviously getting

1395
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 5: it together this year, I did not. I guess Doc

1396
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:46,600
Speaker 5: Rivers is a better coach than I thought he was.

1397
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 5: I thought he was a good coach, did not think

1398
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:49,679
Speaker 5: he was going to be this good this year. All right,

1399
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 5: final segment, thanks for nothing.

1400
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 1: Good teams win and great teams cover put. Some teams

1401
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 1: do neither. This is thanks for nothing.

1402
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:05,759
Speaker 5: It's it's too.

1403
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 1: Night, we really jack.

1404
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 5: Here's mine. Boston Celtics. Okay, so I look at it

1405
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 5: last night, Tuesday night. The Thunder are one and nine

1406
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 5: against the spread second half the last ten games. And

1407
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 5: you say, like, well, that's noise. No, it's not. They're

1408
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 5: tanking like they hang in all these games and then

1409
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 5: they tank like they try and lose. They had turnovers

1410
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 5: like every thirty seconds last night, and all the Celtics

1411
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 5: had to do was not outscrew up them, and somehow

1412
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 5: they managed to lose the game, a brutal loss in

1413
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:45,759
Speaker 5: their playoff chase to get out of the playing tournament,

1414
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:50,679
Speaker 5: and they fail to cover versus the Oklahoma City Thunder.

1415
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 5: I know that it's supposed to be a.

1416
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 4: Dog, but oh my god, how do.

1417
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,719
Speaker 5: You not outscore them in the like first half? Fine,

1418
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 5: you know what, the Thunder are surprisingly plucky. The Celtics

1419
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 5: are actually pretty bad in the first half. I was like,

1420
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna touch that. But second half, all you

1421
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 5: do is outscoring by four and a half in the

1422
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:06,639
Speaker 5: second half.

1423
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 3: That's it.

1424
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 5: You could have lost the game. Still, how do you

1425
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 5: do the Celtics such a terrible loss? Anybody else got

1426
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 5: another team that they're mad out this week?

1427
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 2: I'm going with the same team because the Celtics on

1428
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 2: Sunday that was one of the.

1429
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 3: Most abysmal performances I've ever seen.

1430
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 2: I mean, allot of the Hornets to go out there

1431
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 2: and shoot almost fifty percent from three. Offensively, they just

1432
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 2: had a one oh seven offensive rating. I mean, this

1433
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 2: was like one of the few times where the Celtics

1434
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 2: have had almost there was nobody on the injury report

1435
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 2: except for Robert Williams. Everybody was out there and they

1436
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 2: just went out there and got blown out. I mean

1437
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 2: they dominated this Hornets team. I mean they they beat

1438
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 2: the Hornets I'd say seven out of the last eight

1439
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 2: times by average margin of twenty three and a half points, and.

1440
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 3: They got smoked. So it's just like, just as you

1441
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 3: think the Celtics are starting to get it together, they

1442
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 3: become that laxa daisical team that really just doesn't have

1443
01:11:58,120 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 3: a fight this year.

1444
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 5: That would have warned you off on the Hornets game.

1445
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 5: I would have warned you off on that one oh

1446
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 5: and four. This season, the Celtics are in starts before

1447
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 5: four o'clock eastern. Oh and four, they they have it started.

1448
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 4: I think that they.

1449
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 5: Lost the Pistons all these early starts, like I've just

1450
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 5: it's been. It's been part of my my Sunday morning

1451
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 5: routines this year oftentimes is you know, I wake up

1452
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 5: here on mountain time, and I, you know, get myself

1453
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 5: a cup of coffee, and I sit down and I go, oh,

1454
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 5: Celtics have an early game, and then they get troutd

1455
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 5: and I go, I can remember that, and then next

1456
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 5: time I don't remember it at all, and forget to

1457
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 5: bet against the Celtics or four o'clock eastern every single time.

1458
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 3: What's yours?

1459
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 4: Brandon?

1460
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 6: So I got to just be a fan for a second,

1461
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:45,759
Speaker 6: and thanks for nothing. Poorly time, completely meaningless, totally useless

1462
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 6: Minnesota Timbrelves win.

1463
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Brandon, Brandon Anderson is a hater.

1464
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:53,639
Speaker 4: What are we doing? Just listen?

1465
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 6: We are eight and eight in April, when the only

1466
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 6: job the team should have right now is to lose

1467
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 6: an ugh games to make sure that they have at

1468
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 6: least a forty percent chance at keeping the top three

1469
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 6: pick that they shouldn't have traded away anyway, but now

1470
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 6: have to live with that. The team is going to

1471
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 6: win just enough games to quote unquote establish a winning culture,

1472
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 6: the same thing that the same garbage they've fed us

1473
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 6: for the last like fifteen years. Guess who doesn't establish

1474
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 6: a winning culture The Timberwolves. We win a couple of

1475
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 6: games and they'll start the next season and lose a

1476
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 6: whole bunch more. Again, there's no winning culture carry over.

1477
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 6: It's not happening. Listen. We made the playoffs once one

1478
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 6: time since Kevin Garnett left the team. That one playoff

1479
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:40,919
Speaker 6: that they did was in twenty eighteen when the Timberules

1480
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 6: won the final game of the season, Game eighty two

1481
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 6: against the Denver Nuggets.

1482
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 4: And even that one time, when the.

1483
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 6: Timberwolves made the playoffs, it cost them their draft pick

1484
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 6: because their draft pick was traded like always and it

1485
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 6: was a lottery protected, so it dropped them from fourteen

1486
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 6: to fifteen. They lost the draft pick. Guess who was

1487
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 6: the fourteenth pick in the draft that year. Denver got

1488
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 6: the pick instead. Did you figure it out? It's Michael

1489
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 6: Porter junior. So the Timberwls just keep on blowing chances

1490
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,719
Speaker 6: to help themselves with draft picks. I don't care about

1491
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 6: eight and eight. I don't care about wins and D'Angelo

1492
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 6: Russell winning culture. Your job right now is to protect

1493
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 6: the asset of the team and get draft pick for

1494
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 6: next year. Make sure that you finish at least in

1495
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,719
Speaker 6: the bottom floor. Anything outside of that is a disaster.

1496
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 6: Their odds dropped from forty to thirty six to thirty one,

1497
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 6: and keep on going. It's already unlikely they're going to

1498
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 6: keep the pick, but they they have.

1499
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 4: I don't care.

1500
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 6: They just can't win any more games, lose a couple

1501
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 6: of games, get the draft pick.

1502
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,759
Speaker 5: Dude's flattened. Look if it was on the previous ones, Okay,

1503
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 5: but the like, the whole thing is, the odds are flattened.

1504
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 5: Like there's still a really good chance that you wind

1505
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 5: up with a with a great player in this in

1506
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 5: this draft, Like there's still a really great great chance

1507
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 5: of that. Like I get, I get the pick, I

1508
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 5: get the trade threat, I do I understand, and like

1509
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 5: I get that you're mad that they traded it for Russell.

1510
01:14:58,479 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 5: I get it.

1511
01:14:59,000 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 3: I do.

1512
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 5: I totally get that Russell's been bad until like the

1513
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 5: last couple of games. The one thing I will tell

1514
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 5: you is when you're talking about building building culture, Brandon

1515
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:10,560
Speaker 5: like honestly, like, you gotta have the GM, and you

1516
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 5: gotta have the coach. And they had the GM, but

1517
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 5: they didn't have the coach because they kept the coach

1518
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 5: because the owner liked the coach. Okay, they're gonna have

1519
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 5: a new ownership, They're gonna have a new that Roses

1520
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 5: is gonna be a good GM. I'll tell you, Like

1521
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 5: Girsan's gonna be a good.

1522
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 4: GM, definitely.

1523
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 5: And Finch is the guy, Like I'm telling you, Finch

1524
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 5: is the guy like I have lost. Like when they

1525
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 5: were talking about Vanterboles versus Finch, I was like, this

1526
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 5: is not a question. And like I think David Vanderpool

1527
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,640
Speaker 5: has earned like a definite shot in this league. I

1528
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 5: hope he gets one with Portland next season. But to

1529
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 5: prove me wrong that you can play drop defense and

1530
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 5: be effective in the NBA. But Chris Finch is a

1531
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 5: like great coach, Like he is gonna be awesome and

1532
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 5: there is value in the other thing. I'll tell you

1533
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 5: is just getting even, Like, look, let's go beyond, like

1534
01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 5: like winning a championship and like all this stuff. Look

1535
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 5: at how Karl Anthony Towns has looked on the floor

1536
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 5: these last couple of games and what he's been through,

1537
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 5: Like you need, like I honestly think this, like you need,

1538
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 5: you need to start winning for cat so he's not

1539
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 5: like it's been hell for that kid, like he has

1540
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 5: been in hell since the pandemic, and so for me,

1541
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 5: Like you lose a couple of percentage points on your letter,

1542
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:28,680
Speaker 5: you know it would be worse you tanking looking like garbage.

1543
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 5: Everyone's miserable and then getting jumped that is way more miserable.

1544
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree with all of that. I agree with

1545
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 6: Finch is the guy, Rosas is the guy. I'm excited

1546
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 6: to have both of those two. I love in the

1547
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 6: moment to watch Karl Anthony Towns win a big game.

1548
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 6: I love to be happy for the big man. The

1549
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 6: odds are flatter as long as you finish in the

1550
01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 6: final bottom three, they're they're the exact same.

1551
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 4: Look, I know the odds.

1552
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 6: I can tell you, like the percentage to the tenth

1553
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 6: of a point, it starts dropping if you are a

1554
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 6: bottom three team versus the fifth worst team. Your odds

1555
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 6: of keeping a top three pick go from forty percent

1556
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 6: to thirty percent. Like that's not insignificant. That is, you

1557
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:18,639
Speaker 6: have lost twenty five percent of your odds of winning

1558
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 6: and keeping your pick this year. That has to matter,

1559
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:25,520
Speaker 6: so great, Keep the Finch momentum, keep the cap momentum,

1560
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 6: win a couple more games if you have to, then

1561
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 6: shut it down and lose out, and you have to

1562
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 6: make sure they have to stay in the bottom four.

1563
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 6: Anything any if you're dropped to four, you lose a

1564
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 6: little bit. Anything beyond that, I don't care that.

1565
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 5: Wrap it out for the Action Network NBA podcast. Hope

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01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 5: you guys have enjoyed it. I know that we did.

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01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 5: Great show. We'll be back next week with another episode

1568
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 5: on Wednesday. Make sure check out all the great shows

1569
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:51,240
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1570
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Speaker 5: through and through. If you want to bet on the

1571
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 5: NFL futures, I know I do. You're gonna want to

1572
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 5: see what happens in the draft and you're gonna want

1573
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:01,880
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01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:03,719
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1577
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us on the Action Network Podcast NBA edition.

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Speaker 3: We're finished talking.