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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky,

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Speaker 1: Rhett as we get our recap in little draft recap

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Speaker 1: in guys, Buck, start with you. How we doing man?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 3: Djay, A great job by you and the crew on

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Speaker 3: the ground in Detroit. Rett and I held it down

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Speaker 3: with a few of the other guys. It was a long,

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Speaker 3: exhausting weekend, but it was one It was really compelling,

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Speaker 3: made for really good TV in terms of just watching

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Speaker 3: a the offensive centric draft go the quarterbacks go in

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Speaker 3: the top twelve, and then just watching some teams take

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Speaker 3: advantage of the Blue Chippers falling down the charts because

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Speaker 3: it was such a runal offensive players and quarterbacks early.

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Speaker 4: What'd you think, Rep, Yeah, I think yeah, I've had

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Speaker 4: that kind of question, you know, as as we all

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Speaker 4: kind of you know, assessed with our different platforms in

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Speaker 4: the way in which we're talking about the draft, like

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Speaker 4: that was kind of the question, you know, it was like,

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Speaker 4: all right, it is it a state of you know,

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Speaker 4: the way football is being played these days, and that

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Speaker 4: we got so many of the offensive guys, and I'm like, well,

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Speaker 4: if there were. I mean, if there was better defensive players,

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Speaker 4: they would have been taken.

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Speaker 5: In the top ten.

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Speaker 4: That's just you know, that's kind of the way it went,

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Speaker 4: you know, And that's that's the way it goes. And

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Speaker 4: you know, the league obviously valued them a little bit

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Speaker 4: lower than everybody else, but that's what happens when you

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Speaker 4: get six qbs and a bunch of offensive linemen.

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Speaker 5: And then we got the run on receivers as well.

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Speaker 4: So I love that we actually have some cold hard

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Speaker 4: data points to talk about here after about a million

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Speaker 4: mock drafts and projections.

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Speaker 5: So let's rock and roll.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want I want to hit buck yet on

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Speaker 1: this one first before we get into all the recap here.

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Speaker 1: But I had a assistant GM of a team first

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Speaker 1: He was pretty confident about that, which I, okay, interesting

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Speaker 1: that happens. This is crazy. Ended up being six in

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Speaker 1: back to what I love so much about this platform

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Speaker 1: and what we get to do on Move the Sticks

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we had lost rep for a second. I think

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Speaker 2: He's just trying to figure it out. He just lost.

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Speaker 3: I do have more on that, DJ like when it

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Speaker 3: pass rushers, and playmakers. So eighteen offensive tackles selected in

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Speaker 2: And then you saw like ten defensive tackles.

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Speaker 3: And you're just seeing that those five positions are now

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I also think there's just some drafts where you're

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Speaker 3: I want to bring Red in on this because we'll

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Speaker 3: eventually have the Michael Pennant's conversation. But DJ, you brought

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Speaker 2: I do wanted to run on quarterbacks early.

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Speaker 3: Is that an indictment on the twenty twenty five quarterback

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, I mean, like you think about that. You're

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Speaker 4: There's some self awareness there too. There's some loyalty there too.

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Speaker 1: No doubt. Let's get through a couple more of these

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Speaker 1: Ripped through these real quick. We told everybody that had

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Speaker 1: This is not a guy who's trying to trick anybody.

436
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Speaker 1: This is exactly who we are, is exactly.

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Speaker 2: What we do.

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Speaker 1: I'd said it on the we said it on here before,

439
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Speaker 1: and I said on the draft, this is him going

440
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Speaker 1: to Stanford and saying Oregon and USC and all the

441
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Speaker 1: high flying stuff. That's great. I'll go I'm not chasing

442
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Speaker 1: five star receivers. I'm not chasing five star dbs. I'm

443
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Speaker 1: gonna go sign every offensive lineman and tight end that

444
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Speaker 1: I can possibly find and We're going to run it

445
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Speaker 1: down your throats like that is his core philosophy. Did

446
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Speaker 1: the same thing with Ohio State. It took a while

447
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Speaker 1: to get there, but that's eventually what he got to

448
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Speaker 1: and they ended up beating him up, so that was

449
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Speaker 1: not a surprise. And then at six we had said

450
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Speaker 1: through the whole process, I don't believe that they are

451
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Speaker 1: a JJ McCarthy team. They are a Drake May team.

452
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Speaker 1: They're gonna try like crazy to get from six to three.

453
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Speaker 1: If they can't get Drake May, I think they're gonna

454
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Speaker 1: be comfortable. And it's not just with Daniel Jones. I

455
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Speaker 1: believe Drew Locke. He's got a really good shot of

456
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Speaker 1: winning that job. He's going to be in the mix there.

457
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Speaker 1: So they were comparing, you know, Daniel Jones and Drew Locke,

458
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Speaker 1: and I would emphasis on Drew Locke to the quarterbacks

459
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Speaker 1: that were going to be there, and I think the

460
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Speaker 1: line for them was Drake May. After that, they weren't

461
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Speaker 1: taking that, And I thought the Minnesota Vikings were smart

462
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Speaker 1: and correctly reading that situation and not mortgaging to go

463
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Speaker 1: up and get JJ McCarthy. They held their water, paid

464
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Speaker 1: a little and sh urrants to get it up one

465
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Speaker 1: spot at ten and ended up getting them. So those

466
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Speaker 1: are my thoughts on kind of you know those top

467
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Speaker 1: six six picks and obviously seven once we got to

468
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Speaker 1: the Titans, they were going to take one of the

469
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Speaker 1: top two tackles. That wasn't a mystery either.

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Speaker 3: So two things with both of the teams, well, two

471
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Speaker 3: of the teams that you mentioned. One with the Chargers,

472
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Speaker 3: charge Daman true to the identity Jim Harbough telegraphs that

473
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Speaker 3: he said, this is what it's going to be now

474
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Speaker 3: with Tennessee Titans. We all know Rank Carthon right. Ran

475
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Speaker 3: Carthon is a believer in physicality and toughness, and even

476
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Speaker 3: though they brought Brian Callahan in and the things that

477
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Speaker 3: they did in Cincinnati, Ran Carthon stayed true to what

478
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Speaker 3: he believes.

479
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Speaker 2: Wins football, and that is at the line of scrimmage.

480
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Speaker 3: We talked about being able to get an offensive tackle early,

481
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Speaker 3: coming back later, getting the defensive tackle up front, to

482
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Speaker 3: be able to bully people.

483
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Speaker 2: That is how the Tennessee Titans want to do it.

484
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Speaker 3: Because as much as we want to build it around

485
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Speaker 3: Will Levis and allow him to do his thing, at

486
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Speaker 3: some point, the best way to protect him is a

487
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Speaker 3: really good offensive line and a really good defense that

488
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Speaker 3: shrinks the game and doesn't put so much on them.

489
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Speaker 3: So teams that were trying to stay I would say

490
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Speaker 3: true to the brand to me that stood out in

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Speaker 3: the top.

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Speaker 5: Ten, Yeah, I'd say that.

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Speaker 4: And then I'd say a theme that we kind of

494
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Speaker 4: watched throughout the draft, especially for the teams that took

495
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Speaker 4: quarterbacks in the first round. The first twelve picks went

496
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Speaker 4: out and supported their quarterbacks later on. None bigger and

497
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Speaker 4: better than the Chicago Bears, who after all the talk,

498
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Speaker 4: maybe it's a tackle, maybe it's an edge. No, no, no, no, no,

499
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Speaker 4: it's a wide receiver. We're going to put this dude

500
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Speaker 4: in the best possible situation to succeed better than we've

501
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Speaker 4: seen a number one pick at quarterback get dropped into.

502
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Speaker 5: I don't know in recent history, did you.

503
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Speaker 4: I can't think of another one that's gone one overall

504
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Speaker 4: and it's been in a better spot with talent around

505
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Speaker 4: him than Caleb Williams, especially after the Roman Dunes A.

506
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Speaker 1: Peck Yeah no, And then we would scream that form

507
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Speaker 1: the mountaintops, I kept hearing edge rusher, edge rusher, this

508
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Speaker 1: will be a tackle or this will be a wide receiver.

509
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Speaker 1: But I was happy to see him get a Dune's

510
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Speaker 1: that I always text with the buddy in that personnel apartments,

511
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Speaker 1: santamas Is. Look, it's my opinion. Take it, leave it

512
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Speaker 1: whatever it's worth. But it's my favorite kid in the draft.

513
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Speaker 1: I mean, you just throw him in there, and someone

514
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Speaker 1: who's gonna get a master's class in route running from

515
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Speaker 1: Keenan Allen every day at practice. It's like you couldn't

516
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Speaker 1: have a better set up for him. I'm gonna get

517
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Speaker 1: we'll circle back that. We're gonna take a break after ten.

518
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Speaker 1: We'll circle back to eight because I know we've got

519
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Speaker 1: something to chew on there. But then you get to ten. Obviously,

520
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Speaker 1: you know we mentioned Minnesota. They get JJ McCarthy, they

521
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Speaker 1: trade up their one spot. The Jets trade back one spot.

522
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Speaker 1: They had the you know with the receivers gone and

523
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Speaker 1: off the board. I thought that made their decision easy.

524
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Speaker 1: It's it's a tackle, it's insurance. And then even if

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Speaker 1: even if if he doesn't win the starting job, which

526
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Speaker 1: I don't anticipate for Sean and will I mean have

527
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Speaker 1: a chance to I guess he will compete with Morgan

528
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Speaker 1: Moses potentially at right tackle, but really he's gonna he's

529
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Speaker 1: gonna rep every day in practice. Tern Smith doesn't practice,

530
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Speaker 1: so you're gonna play left tackle every day in practice,

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Speaker 1: get all those reps, useful reps, and then eventually, you know,

532
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Speaker 1: I hope it doesn't happen, but the track record is

533
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Speaker 1: what it is that eventually one of those thirty three

534
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Speaker 1: year olds is going to break down and then he'll

535
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Speaker 1: he'll be the insurance that can get on the field there.

536
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Speaker 1: But I thought that was their decision there for them

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Speaker 1: to make at that point in time. Let's take a

538
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Speaker 1: quick break, guys, because I wanted, I know we all

539
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Speaker 1: want to get some bites at the apple here at

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Speaker 1: picking them break with Michael Pennock's the surprise pick of

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Speaker 1: the draft, going to the Atlanta Falcons. We'll get to

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Speaker 1: that right after this, all right, Buck, I have not

543
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Speaker 1: had a chance to hear your thoughts on this. Rhett

544
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Speaker 1: as well, we haven't had a chance to visit. We've

545
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Speaker 1: been running around like crazy, So I want to get

546
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Speaker 1: your guys thoughts on this thing. So Bucky, why don't

547
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Speaker 1: you go first here with Michael Pennox going to the

548
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Speaker 1: Falcons at.

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Speaker 3: Eight Okay, So I'm gonna say exactly what I said

550
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Speaker 3: on TV. Good plan, questionable execution, good plan, and the

551
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Speaker 3: means of a I am all about the quarterback and

552
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Speaker 3: making sure that we have a quarterback that can play.

553
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Speaker 3: Regardless of the amount of money paid to Kirk Cousins,

554
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Speaker 3: it is always good business they have a backup quarterback

555
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 3: or a young quarter back in the hopper that can

556
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Speaker 3: eventually take over. I would say the questionable execution would

557
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 3: be okay if we really thought this was going to

558
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Speaker 3: be a possibility, and we had to know this because

559
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 3: free agency happened after the combine, so we had an opportunity.

560
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Speaker 2: To meet and see all the young quarterbacks out there.

561
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Speaker 3: I don't know if we had to go and get

562
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Speaker 3: the most expensive free agent quarterback on the market to

563
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Speaker 3: do it.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying it like so.

565
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Speaker 3: And I know we can talk about salary cap percentage

566
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Speaker 3: and forty five million is and what it used to

567
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Speaker 3: be based on how much it escalated, But what you

568
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Speaker 3: did and going and get Kirk Cousins and then coming

569
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Speaker 3: to get Michael Pennix, it just appears that you just

570
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Speaker 3: don't know what your original plan was. And so I

571
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Speaker 3: come from the green Bay school of Hey, you get

572
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Speaker 3: a quarterback, you have somebody. You always have somebody ready.

573
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Speaker 3: This though, is just different because the execution of the

574
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Speaker 3: plan was so drastically different than any other plan that

575
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Speaker 3: we've seen when it comes to having a secession plan

576
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Speaker 3: in place. Tom Brady was not a top ten pick

577
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Speaker 3: to back up, you know, Drew Bledsoe. And then even

578
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Speaker 3: with Tom Brady was there and they got quarterbacks, they

579
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Speaker 3: didn't quarterbacks in the first round. Now, I like Michael

580
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Speaker 3: Pennix the player, and I like Kirk Cousins the player.

581
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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, because this is so drastically different than

582
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Speaker 3: anything that we've seen, it just takes us a while

583
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Speaker 3: to get comfortable with the notion that you spent premier

584
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Speaker 3: money to acquire free agent quarterback and premier draft capital

585
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Speaker 3: to get a quarterback. Even though I support the plan,

586
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Speaker 3: the execution, to me, is the question mark that everyone

587
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Speaker 3: has to answer.

588
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Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I think I think I can kind of

589
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Speaker 4: see this from both sides of the coin, and if

590
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Speaker 4: that makes if that makes any sense, like I kind

591
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Speaker 4: of understand the logic to have some a need and

592
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Speaker 4: a want for quarterback continuity. I gotta tell you, man,

593
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Speaker 4: it takes some guts, like if you're Terry font though,

594
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Speaker 4: because you know, this is a guy we weren't quite

595
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Speaker 4: sure was still going to be there to make this

596
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Speaker 4: head coaching higher and be a part of that search

597
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 4: this year after the way things had gone the last

598
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Speaker 4: three years, and now if you're talking four or five

599
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Speaker 4: years down the road, like, I don't know if you

600
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 4: get that much patience in this league anymore. And so

601
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Speaker 4: I think it takes some guts to pull the trigger

602
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Speaker 4: on a pick like that. And so I'll have tip

603
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Speaker 4: to that. And then look, you know, especially for a

604
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Speaker 4: defensive minded head coach and Raheem Morris, and that's obviously

605
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 4: the place that we had been going. It's clear the

606
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 4: league valued the defense a little bit lower down the board,

607
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Speaker 4: and I think we kind of saw that manifest itself.

608
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Speaker 4: I'd really be curious to see where Michael Pennix was

609
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 4: on that board, you know, and whether the receivers, whether

610
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 4: the offensive lineman you know, we're all really close up there,

611
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 4: or whether he was you know, that blinking light that

612
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 4: we talk about at the top of the board. I

613
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 4: understand it. And look, I know the guaranteed money DJ

614
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 4: with Cousins, is you know, two years of guarantees essentially

615
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 4: is where we're at. And so would it really be

616
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Speaker 4: that egregious if you don't see Penny until year three.

617
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Speaker 4: The weird part is he feels like an NFL ready, dude.

618
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 4: You know that's the part that feels a little odd

619
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Speaker 4: to me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this makes no sense to me whatsoever, none Like

621
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Speaker 1: it made little sense to me when it happened, and honestly,

622
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Speaker 1: hearing all the reasons of why it makes sense, it

623
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Speaker 1: makes less sense to me after having had time to

624
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: digest this. And I'll lay out a couple of reasons

625
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: for you here. Tell me that all start with the

626
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: first point here, Bucky, you mentioned it. You have all

627
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Speaker 1: of the college football season, you have the run up

628
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Speaker 1: to the Combine, the Combine, you get a chance to

629
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Speaker 1: visit with these guys. No, not to mention the guy

630
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Speaker 1: played in the Senior Bowl as well. So we've got

631
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Speaker 1: a college season, We've got the Senior Bowl with the

632
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: quarterbacks looking at them there. Then you've got the Combine.

633
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Speaker 1: You know that who's picking in front of you. You

634
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Speaker 1: know the number of picks at any point in time,

635
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: any point in time through this process was Michael Pennix

636
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Speaker 1: ever talked about being concerned that he would be gone

637
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Speaker 1: before they would have picked at number eight. Never, not

638
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Speaker 1: once was that discussed that he would be gone to

639
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: that point in time. So if you were so in

640
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Speaker 1: love with that, it would have been easy for you

641
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Speaker 1: to say, Okay, we'll keep the forty million dollars or

642
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: we're going to pay Kirk Cousins one hundred million dollars,

643
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: whatever the number is, the guarantees, and we'll just be

644
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: aggressive in this deep quarterback class. We like all these guys,

645
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: and we like Pennix. We'll either get him there or

646
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: we'll have to do it. We do, we'll move up

647
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: and get him, but let's get a placeholder in free agency,

648
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: and you know, we can get one of these mid

649
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: tier guys, but you went and got the guy at

650
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Speaker 1: the very tippy top of the market. So that's the

651
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Speaker 1: first part of it that doesn't make any sense to me.

652
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: But here's the next part. This They went out and

653
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: used as their explanation for this pick as the model

654
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: for green Bay, and I've heard that from a bunch

655
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: of people say and using that as as the model,

656
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: this is not even close to the same model. Brett

657
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: Farv had been in Green Bay for over a decade,

658
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: Brett Favre had won a Super Bowl. Brett Favi had

659
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: won MVPs. Brett Farv had the locker room. Brett Farv

660
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: had the city, he had the fans, he had everyone

661
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: and behind him. Aaron Rodgers, over a decade in Green Bay,

662
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl, had this. They all know how

663
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: good this guy is. He's got equity out the wazoo,

664
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: within the city, the organization, in the locker room. You

665
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: give Kirk Cousins all this money, but Kirk Cousins has

666
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: zero equity with his teammates. He probably hadn't even met

667
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: half of his teammates. He has zero equity in the city.

668
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: And now you just backstopped him with a top ten pick.

669
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: The first bad game, maybe it's the first bad throw.

670
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: You're gonna have the entire city clamoring for the guy

671
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: behind him. And how is Kirk Cousins gonna feel like

672
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: he's got No, he hasn't built up anything, any kind

673
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: of equity to be able to say like, who cares,

674
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: I've already done what I've done. All of his accomplishments

675
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: are They're numerous in terms of individually, none of them

676
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. So that's totally apples to oranges and puts

677
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: him in a rough spot where the pressure like there's

678
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: there's a difference between motivation, like you pissed off Aaron

679
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: Rodgers and you got two MVPs out of him. There's

680
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: difference between being pissed off and then being also uncomfortable,

681
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: like you are making him in a very pressurized like.

682
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: I don't think Aaron Rodgers felt pressure. I think Aaron

683
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: Rodgers was upset, whereas Kirk Cousins is going to feel

684
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of pressure. Oh, by the way, go

685
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: ahead and learn a new offense, and learn your new

686
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: teammates and try and figure all that stuff out, and

687
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: then now you've got it. Just that to me, it

688
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: sets up for what could be a real, you know,

689
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: tender box there that could explode. And then the other

690
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: argument that I'll push back on, which was, well, we're

691
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: such a good team, we'll never be picking up here again,

692
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: so we better get our quarterback. And I say, well,

693
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: you can't have both things, Like you can't say that

694
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: we don't want to have a drop off from Kirk

695
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: Cousins before we get the next guy. But then we

696
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: also we're never going to be picking this high. Those

697
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: those two things compete against one another. In other words,

698
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: kirk Cousins plays great for two years and then maybe

699
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: kirk Cousins starts to dip. Well, once kirk Cousins starts

700
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: to dip, you are going to be picking that high.

701
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: And you would have an opportunity to pick a quarterback.

702
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, if you pick the quarterback

703
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: two to three years from now, you'll get the full

704
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: four or five year benefit of having a cheap starting

705
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: quarterback to be able to fill out the rest of

706
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: your roster. You're foregoing that now at this pace. By

707
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: the time he gets on the field, you're gonna get

708
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: one or two years of that benefit of having a

709
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: cheap quarterback.

710
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: That is it. Yeah.

711
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 3: The only way I can kind of like scrimmage is

712
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 3: out is they must have had such an astronomical grade

713
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 3: on Michael Pennix that they were forced to do it

714
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 3: if they were going to retain their credibility within the room.

715
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: With the scouts. Like, that's the only way that I

716
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: could see it.

717
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: Are they so late to that evaluation?

718
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 5: Bucky working to go whatever we gotta do?

719
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: Four four would have traded out five would have traded

720
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: out both those like if you don't know, I don't.

721
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 3: Know, because like if we if we go by the

722
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 3: normal timeline that we use when it comes to scouting,

723
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 3: they should have known that he was going to be

724
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 3: in play for them based on all of the stuff

725
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 3: that was done ahead of the combine, because the combine

726
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: happens before a free agency, after you met with him,

727
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 3: after you to work out. If you watch him at

728
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl, after you've done all of this tape,

729
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: you should have had a great awades. It's like, whoa,

730
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 3: this guy's gonna come in with I mean, I'll just

731
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 3: throw a mythical grade. He's gonna come in at seven four,

732
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 3: like he is at the top of the charte, like

733
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: we we love him.

734
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: We got to have.

735
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 3: Him to go through all of that and to go

736
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 3: and get the top free agent. And this isn't even

737
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 3: the same example, because I've heard Pete Carroll talk about

738
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 3: this when they got Matt Flynn, but then they took

739
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson.

740
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: He was like the cost of money deals.

741
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: I know that number, no, no, no, but I'm just saying,

742
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 3: but at the time he was like the cost of

743
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: doing business and free agency cannot impact who eventually plays

744
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 3: in what you do in the draft. So when it

745
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: comes to Kirk Cousins, that's not true because Kirk Cousins

746
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 3: has to play and DJ, let's just talk about the

747
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: dynamics of the city and let's talk about the dynamics

748
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: of the team. So now you have Kirk Cousins, an

749
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 3: older quarterback coming into the locker room. You got all

750
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 3: these young playmakers and Bijon Robinson and Drake London.

751
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: And Kyle Pitts and all that.

752
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 3: Michael Pennix, a younger player, walks into that room, it's

753
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 3: gonna be different the connectivity. While they may respect Kirk Cousins,

754
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 3: they're gonna hang with Michael Pennix and so what can happen.

755
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 3: The chemistry and connectivity could be vastly different. And so

756
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 3: for Kirk Cousins, you talk about the pressure and we

757
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 3: haven't even talked about the elephant in the room. The

758
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 3: pressure is on him coming off of an achilles. So

759
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 3: now Kirk Cousins, when he's practicing, if he feels a

760
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 3: twinge or anything like, he can't just say, oh, all

761
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 3: of a sudden, this went out this and that, Like

762
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 3: if he gives the ball to Michael Pennix, he may

763
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 3: never get the ball back, you know.

764
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: And so that's the thing we all know.

765
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 3: In many camps or whatever, it's just a different it's

766
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 3: just a different animal.

767
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: And I like Michael Pennix, and I think I was lobbying.

768
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,479
Speaker 1: I was getting crucified for saying I thought the Raiders

769
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: should have taken Michael Pennox if he was there, And

770
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: I kept putting him there and people saying, there's no,

771
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: he's a second round player, you can't take him there.

772
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, he's better than all the quarterbacks that

773
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: they have, well Kirk Cousins, and you can ask Kevin

774
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: O'Connell about this, but like he felt like he was

775
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: on his way to be an MVP last year. If

776
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: he doesn't get hurt like he was putting up huge numbers,

777
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: I think that's a different quarterback room he's going into

778
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: there than he would have been going into to the Raiders.

779
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: But I want to be careful because I do want

780
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: to let you know, like i'd like Michael Pennix, this

781
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: is not a pro Cousins anti Penix. This is just

782
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: I just didn't understand like you could have done one

783
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: you could have done. President could have done Yeah, you

784
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: could have done Cousins all in on Cousins, or you

785
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: could have said, we're gonna wait and we're gonna go

786
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: Pinick and we're alling on Pinis. I think either one

787
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: of those are plans I can get behind. I can

788
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: be excited about. I think the two of them combined

789
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: together that that's when I just don't have hard time

790
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 1: just figuring that one out.

791
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: Okay, so give me this. How could they ever make

792
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: it right?

793
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 3: Like, how could we look back at this decision in

794
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 3: three or four years and say that the Atlanta Falcons

795
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 3: got it right by doing it the way that they

796
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 3: did it.

797
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 4: I would say that almost the same thing kind of

798
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 4: happens is like, you know, Cousins starts off the year

799
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 4: on an absolute tear and God forbid, but something happens

800
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 4: and then bam, Michael Penix comes in and they still

801
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 4: go to the postseason and win, you know, win a

802
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 4: couple of games, and like they don't have any they

803
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 4: don't have the quote unquote drop off that they've been

804
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 4: trying to avoid, whether that happens year one or year two,

805
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 4: like but uh, you know, or that's the only scenario

806
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 4: where I can see you like where you're like, oh,

807
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 4: thank god we did that right, thank god we get

808
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 4: thank god we got Penix when we still had had

809
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 4: Cousins rolling and playing really well.

810
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

811
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 5: And the last thing you don't wish that up on

812
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 5: any No, of course not.

813
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: And I hope that look the perfect world is Kirk

814
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: Cousins plays an unbelievable high level for two years and

815
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: then Michael Pennix takes the baton and it's just the

816
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl smooth ride, and then Michael Pennox is your

817
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: quarterback for the next day. And I think that's what

818
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: people have been championing, is this is the plan. You're

819
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: perfect two years or two of Cousins and then off

820
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: to the Michael PENNOCKX era. I'm just telling you it

821
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: doesn't always go that smoothly, and it could be a

822
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: tough situation for a lot of people. And you nailed

823
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: it with the young guys because I and this is

824
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: different from the standpoint even with Carson Wentz and Hurts,

825
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: because people could look at it and say, well, aren't

826
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: they glad they took Hurts because that worked out? And

827
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: yes it did. But Carson had already established himself there

828
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: had you know, was on his way to an MVP

829
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: before he got hurt. They won a Super Bowl and

830
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. So even that, you know,

831
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: it was that was a situation in Philadelphia. You remember

832
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: that all the young guys had all those young receivers,

833
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 1: and they all went towards towards Hurts, which means picking

834
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: Hurts wasn't the wrong thing. In hindsight, maybe you shouldn't

835
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 1: have paid Carson Wentz, which is what we could be saying,

836
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: you know a year from now, is like, hey, look,

837
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 1: Pennix has done great and he's taken over and he's

838
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: won the job. Well, then that's awesome, But then man,

839
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: you way overpaid. You shouldn't have done what you did

840
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: with Kirk Cousins. Like that's why I'm getting that. It's

841
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: like it's hard for both of these to be right,

842
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: Like it's gonna be one or the other.

843
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 2: It'd be fascinating.

844
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 3: What they've done is they've created a conversation around the

845
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 3: team that will never go away. It won't go away.

846
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 3: It's not gonna go away for the next three or

847
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 3: four years. So Rahiem Terry Fino.

848
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: They have to as long as Kirk's there.

849
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they have to be comfortable living in the

850
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 3: white noise. And even when Kirk isn't there, then all

851
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 3: the pressures on Michael Pennix to do it, because now

852
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: he has to justify and validate why he was selected

853
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 3: eight and why they felt compelled to op for another

854
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 3: quarterback as opposed to the quote unquote weapon to help

855
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins. It just creates a conversation and a narrative

856
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 3: that will not go away. And so they play, and

857
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 3: they have to play really well.

858
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 1: So many layers to it. I mean, we could literally

859
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: do hours and hours of all the different layers because

860
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: we haven't even talked about the fact that we always

861
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: talk about here. Once you've paid the quarterback, you have

862
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,959
Speaker 1: to maximize your dollars. And the value of a top

863
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: ten pick is you get a premium player at a

864
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: premium position for dirt cheap, which then you can use

865
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: that savings instead of having to pay a pass rusher

866
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: twenty five million a year at a premier price, I

867
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: can get a premier pass rusher and I'm paying him

868
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: eight million dollars a year. Now I've got all that

869
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: extra money that I can dive you up around the

870
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: rest of my roster. Well that's gone. They just put

871
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: more money into the quarterback room there. So there's a million,

872
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: a million levels to it. But who knows, you know,

873
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: maybe this will maybe we'll all look back on it

874
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: and it was the you know, I want to go

875
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: down as one of the smartest moves in uh AN

876
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: off season history here and uh and and all. At

877
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: least I would have to apologize at that point in time.

878
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 5: New trend I have What's that?

879
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 2: Was that right?

880
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: I didn't hear you.

881
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 5: I just said it would be a new trend, A

882
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 5: new trend, yes, yeah.

883
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, a new trend that has been set in place.

884
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: So here's here's my uh here's my draft post draft

885
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: analysis request. I know draft grades, they do, huge clicks.

886
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: Every every place does them. I've had to do in

887
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: the past. I know. I'm sure Buck you've had to

888
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: do them. I don't know if we'rett you've ever had

889
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: to go down that path. I'm sure you guys are.

890
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: You might be doing one path to the draft this week.

891
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: Get them today, baby, it's the worst. Uh So in

892
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: lieu of that, how much more sense does this make?

893
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: So instead of just pulling a letter grade out of

894
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: your backside. How about what Jack, our buddy Jack Andraid

895
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: has done in research. At least for me personally, I

896
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: have my top one hundred and fifty players. So he

897
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: goes through and he puts a point value to it.

898
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: The number one player on my board is worth one

899
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty points. The number one hundred and fifty

900
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 1: player on my board is worth one point. So instead

901
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: of me guessing and throwing an arbitrary grade out there,

902
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: he literally tells me the teams that have the most

903
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: total points in terms of who got the most value

904
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: and through the draft. So for me this year, it

905
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: was the Cardinals, followed by the Commanders, the Steelers, the Bills,

906
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: and the Eagles. So based off of my opinion, that's

907
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: not like me guessing. Those are actually the numbers that

908
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: are represented there, at least in my personal opinion. When

909
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: I get asked who I thought had the best draft,

910
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: I can confidently say, well, the Cardinals, the Commanders, the Steelers,

911
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: the Bills, and the Eagles. Those are my top five drafts.

912
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 3: I mean, so you already talked about You already talked

913
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 3: about the Cardinals. But let's talk about the Steelers, right,

914
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 3: and the Stillers, we all have ties in that build.

915
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 3: I will say this, DJ, there is something about a

916
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 3: team that drafts to the brand. And I feel like

917
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 3: there were a couple of years but the Stellers didn't

918
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 3: necessarily draft to the brand.

919
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: They're all the way back now.

920
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 3: The one thing that shows up in all the players

921
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 3: that they took, there's an innate toughness and physicality that

922
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 3: shows up in all of the games, even Roman Wilson.

923
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 2: They play tough, hard nosed ball.

924
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 3: They fit in and everything that you see on tape,

925
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 3: I can look. I can watch the tape and I

926
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 3: can hear Mike Tomlin's voice talking about what he believes

927
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 3: in when it comes to it. So when those things

928
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 3: match up, that's when the really good stuff happens. So

929
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh still is being back on track. You talk

930
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 3: about the three offensive linemen that they took, McCormick, Fraser,

931
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 3: and Fontana. Yeah, that that all works, and then Peyton Wilson. Look, look,

932
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 3: I'm a favorite of like all of that stuff just

933
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,479
Speaker 3: kinds of work. I can just see the Stillers being

934
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 3: back on track because they drafted guys that fit the brand.

935
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 1: I yeah, I love it. Let me it was third

936
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: on my list, Rhett. But then if you were going

937
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: to say who gets the bonus points for the identity

938
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: the Steelers, I mean that's they tapped into who they

939
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: are in a big way.

940
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent.

941
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 4: I'll double down on that, and I'll give you one

942
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 4: other team from beyond your list that I liked. So

943
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 4: with the Steelers, you know, starting to kind of notice

944
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 4: a trend there because we were sitting there on the

945
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 4: draft broadcast, we were showing Zach Frazier absolutely mashing dudes's

946
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 4: face into the mat on the wrestling mat.

947
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 5: Right.

948
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 4: Then they come back and they get Peyton Wilson, also

949
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 4: a champion wrestler, and then in the sixth round.

950
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 5: This, okay, let me take it back.

951
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 4: So it was texting with with somebody in that building

952
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 4: after they made the Wilson pick. I was like, yeah,

953
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 4: you guys can install wrestling that in the middle of

954
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 4: the locker room and watch these two guys get after it.

955
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 4: And they were like, yeah, go all the way back

956
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 4: to last year with Keanu Benten and they were like,

957
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 4: it's something we value. And then they come back and

958
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 4: get Logan Lee, a two time high school state champion

959
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 4: wrestler in the state of Iowa.

960
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 5: In the sixth round. They're gonna have a been battle

961
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 5: Royale in there each and every week during practice.

962
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 4: I'm like this, so we talk about basketball and other

963
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 4: sports making a difference with the Steelers. Like that toughness,

964
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 4: that blue collar mentality both mentally and physically comes to

965
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 4: play with how they want this team to look. So

966
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 4: I love that, and I love the way that they

967
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 4: kind of followed their blueprint the Rams. Rams hadn't had

968
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,439
Speaker 4: a first round pick in almost a decade, right since

969
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 4: twenty sixteen. They come on the clock, patiently, sit and

970
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 4: they get you know, arguably, you know, one of.

971
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 5: The best edge rushers in this class, right.

972
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 4: You know, there's some camps like our buddy Lanzerlin had

973
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 4: Jared Versus his fifth overall player.

974
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 5: Loved Jared verse Obviously the Rams did as well.

975
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 4: They took him at nineteen, and I love that they

976
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 4: get to come back in the second round and take

977
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 4: his teammate Braydon Fisk, both of whom transferred into Florida

978
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 4: State for smaller programs, excelled at the higher level of competition,

979
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 4: played really well together, and now get to do it.

980
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 5: But the best part of about it. DJ is.

981
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 4: They tried to get Jared Verse to make the call

982
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 4: to Braden Fists to say that he was going to

983
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 4: be a RAM, but he gets just look in LA

984
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 4: and traffic and so he just was pretty slick.

985
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 5: And else. I love Blake Korum fits what they do.

986
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 5: I loved it all.

987
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, they did a great job man. I would

988
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: also add I was having a conversation with Howie Roseman

989
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: and we were talking about just the different philosophies and

990
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: strategies when you're approaching the draft, and I remember saying, look,

991
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 1: there's different ways to look at it. You can spread

992
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: all your resources around, or you can identify what is

993
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: our biggest problem and ferociously attack it and say we're

994
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: going to attack our greatest weakness and we're going to

995
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: solve that. Now we got other not like there other

996
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: aren't other problems elsewhere. We got to try and sort

997
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: that out. But take them, take a ton of resources

998
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: and eliminate your biggest weakness and their biggest weakness. We

999
00:44:58,239 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: would all agree. You can look at all the numbers

1000
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: into it was their secondary and they were not good

1001
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: against the pass last year. So you go out and

1002
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: you get the other choice. They got the top corner

1003
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: in the draft and quenya On Mitchell was you know,

1004
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: they either could have taken him or Terry Arnold. Terry Arnold,

1005
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: I don't think there was a wrong decision. I think

1006
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: terry On was nine overall from me, Mitchell was twelve.

1007
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 1: So and I both elite players, elite competitors, elite makeup

1008
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: all that stuff. So they get that and then they

1009
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: come back as you start to see Cooper Dejeene start

1010
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: to slide a little bit, and they're armed with those

1011
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: second round picks and they just get aggressive and go

1012
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: up and get them. So now you go from a

1013
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: secondary that's a major issue to now you bring back

1014
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 1: Chauncey Gardner Johnson, who's fit in well with with your team,

1015
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: was great for them previously. Now I've got Cooper Degene

1016
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: who can play in the nickel and be your big Nichols,

1017
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 1: an excellent tackler as well. And now on the outside

1018
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: of at Quoanya Mitchell, they just freaking attacked their biggest

1019
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,959
Speaker 1: weakness and just like that, I think they not only

1020
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: turn it from not being a weakness. I think you

1021
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: can make his case if they've got it's a strength

1022
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: like this is a This turned out to be a

1023
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: really really good secondary now.

1024
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 3: And DJ in essence, what they did is some some

1025
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 3: of the strategies that we talked about. You double down position.

1026
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 3: To me, you just don't get one player, you get

1027
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 3: multiple players. And even though we can project Cooper Jjen

1028
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 3: as a nickel, he also can play corners, so you

1029
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 3: get two DB's and then they came back and got

1030
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 3: a safety as well to go and attack it. But

1031
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 3: we've seen the Eagles do this before, like going all

1032
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 3: the way back when they did Leadership Shepherd and Sheeann

1033
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 3: Brown and all those other guys like they have done

1034
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 3: this in the past. So pass off to them for

1035
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 3: being really really aggressive and doing that. And the other

1036
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 3: thing that the Eagles tend to do, they tend to

1037
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 3: do it while they still have veterans in place that

1038
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: can play. So having Darius Slay still around to be

1039
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 3: able to mentor and kind of teach quinnyon Mitchell to

1040
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 3: me is important. We won't talk about this because it's

1041
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 3: not a draft thing, but I thought it was very

1042
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 3: creative and slick that they signed Makai Becton kind of

1043
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 3: slide him in to the thing, because.

1044
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 2: That seems like that's another Eagles type move, and then

1045
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: we'll look at.

1046
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 3: Awe if he plays really really well, Like some teams

1047
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 3: just get it, interpeers that the field, thephy Eagles just

1048
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 3: get it.

1049
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 2: When it comes to putting together a roster.

1050
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if I was an offensive lineman he needed

1051
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: to rehab, I would go to Jeff Stoutlin. So just

1052
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: as if you know, I was asked by somebody who

1053
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: had options. I don't even know how it ended up.

1054
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: I haven't looked at it, but it was it was

1055
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: an agent who had a you know, was going to

1056
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: have an undrafted quarterback, and he was giving me the

1057
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: long list of teams that they had options for, of

1058
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 1: which San Francisco was one of them. And I was like, well, yeah,

1059
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: they send him Shanahan, Like that's no question, Like who

1060
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: cares if he makes a team or not. Just touching

1061
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: the coat is going to help him out with him. Yeah,

1062
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna get valuable instruction there. And then

1063
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: also you have the point that people are like, okay,

1064
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: if he's been touched by him, Like okay, I'll uh,

1065
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: he's got a big tree. Now, Shanahan's got a big tree.

1066
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 1: And if he's not going enough to make their roster.

1067
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: You can hel him out somewhere else. But yeah, I

1068
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: think to me, you have to know if you are

1069
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: not going to get a starting job, go where they're

1070
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: going to help you. Man, go where they're going to

1071
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: be able to develop you and get you right. So

1072
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: I thought, actually, that was a smart move by McKay

1073
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: Beckton to go to Philly. Anything else to you, guys,

1074
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: we are we're running up against it here at the

1075
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: end of the at the end of the time, reht

1076
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: Buck any other final thoughts.

1077
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 4: Here, Yeah, I mean like there were other you know,

1078
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 4: other teams we kind of mentioned it that double down on,

1079
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 4: you know, on on position groups. You know, we talked

1080
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 4: about the Steelers with Fatanu and Fraser, Raiders did it

1081
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 4: with Jackson Powers Johnson, which you know, we thought was

1082
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 4: a pretty damn good value for a guy that that

1083
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 4: could have been a first rounder if things had fallen

1084
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 4: the right way. And then they come back and get

1085
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 4: Delmar Glaze after getting brock Bowers in the first round something.

1086
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 4: I don't think I read a single mock that had

1087
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 4: brock Bauers going to the to the Raiders at thirteen.

1088
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 4: But what a damn good player that's going to be

1089
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 4: for him to utilize. So I think about little like

1090
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 4: things that we didn't necessarily see projected anywhere as always

1091
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 4: kind of fun nuggets to see how it ended up

1092
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 4: that that That was something.

1093
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 3: I think the wide receivers at the bottom of the

1094
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 3: first round were intriguing in terms of where they went.

1095
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 3: One that's most intriguing to me. I think people are

1096
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 3: using the incorrect cop when they talk about Xavier Worthy

1097
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 3: going with Andy Reid. They keep throwing up Tybreek Hill.

1098
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 3: But I want them to think about DeShawn Jackson in

1099
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 3: Philadelphia and how and how Andy Reid used DeShawn Jackson,

1100
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 3: DeShawn Jackson being a pump returner and exposive playmaker and

1101
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 3: just the amount of plays that DeShawn Jackson made in

1102
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 3: Philadelphia for Andy Reid. I think that's more the comparison. Then, oh,

1103
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 3: he's gonna do with Tyreek Hill? Did different style player

1104
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 3: more similar to DeShawn.

1105
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 2: Jackson as a vertical threat to playmaker.

1106
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: Yep, that was fun. And then I also thought it

1107
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: was interesting with some of the fits we thought for

1108
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: players in the first round, if they didn't go that route,

1109
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 1: it was interesting to see them get a similar effects

1110
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: simile of the player later on, like the Falcons. We

1111
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: thought maybe they take Murphy the DT from Texas. Well

1112
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: they don't. Then they end up getting Dorless, you know,

1113
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: I think in the third round. Yeah, yeah, well they

1114
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 1: got a Roal Road then. To me, but a roll

1115
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: ro is not the that's not the Murphy style player.

1116
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: Dorless is that real upfield guy. So they got a

1117
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: little knockoff version of that. We I talked about the

1118
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: forty nine ers trying to get their version of a

1119
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: tank Dell and maybe Xavier Worthy could be their tank Dell.

1120
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 1: Same offense they running Houston Kyle could really use this toy.

1121
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: Well they don't get tanked del but they end up

1122
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: getting the kid from Arizona and Jacob Cowing who's again

1123
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 1: undersized flyer receiver. So that to me was always it's

1124
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: always interesting when you have man, I know what, I

1125
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: have a real good feel that they want this type

1126
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: of a player, but they have to decide that they

1127
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: want the premium one or are they willing to go

1128
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: down and take in the same category. But maybe, you know,

1129
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 1: maybe it's a third or fourth round, a little knockoff

1130
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: version of the same type of player. All Right, guys,

1131
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: this has been fun. We're going to take a little

1132
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: bit of a break here, so we have a little

1133
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: bit of a pause on the podcast. But I do

1134
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: appreciate everybody hanging with us here and appreciate Buck, you

1135
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: and you and RHTT keeping this thing rolling during a

1136
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: real busy, hectic week. So I appreciate all you guys,

1137
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: and I'll hopefully catch up with you guys soon and

1138
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: we'll catch up with the audience here after we take

1139
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: a little pause here, but we if you had a blast.

1140
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,919
Speaker 1: It's been a great draft season. I appreciate you so much,

1141
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: and we'll see you next time right here on Move

1142
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: the Sticks.