1 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Chris Harry with you on Chargers Weekly. You've 2 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: got a great episode for you. This week. We'll continue 3 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: our Know Your Rival series and talk Raiders with Vic 4 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: Taffer of the Athletic Bay Area NFL Draft scouts. Dane 5 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: Brugler also stops in for some early draft talk with 6 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: the Combine. Just a bunth away, but we'll kick things 7 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: off with a Super Bowl preview courtesy of Chargers offensive 8 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: coordinator Ken wizzen Hunt. Ken wizzen Hunt joins me on 9 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: Chargers Weekly and coach, I appreciate the time I want 10 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: to dig into this super Bowl with you. But first, 11 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: a nice start to the off season in Los Angeles 12 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: when I was announcing you and Gus Bradley both coming 13 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: back in twenty eighteen. Gotta be a good feeling coach 14 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: to get rolling in a new year with the core 15 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: of this team and coaching staff in place. Well, there 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: certainly is a lot of excitement, you know, Chris, It's 17 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: it's good to be with you. But I think just 18 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: the way we finished, the closeness of this team and 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: this staff, you always feel good about that. We were 20 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: certainly disappointed that we didn't get into the playoffs. Because 21 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: we feel like we would have had a chance to 22 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: make a good run in the playoffs. But I just 23 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: think from where everything started and how we got through 24 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: the year and then finishing up the way we did, 25 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 1: really a good feeling about our team and I'm sure 26 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: that that we'll have confidence going back into this season. 27 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of things to be excited about. Coach. 28 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: There's a lot of big time changes going on up 29 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: and down the division right now, but the theme so 30 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: far with the Chargers has been that continuity. And you 31 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: know what, I go back to your first season as 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: a head coach with the Cardinals in two thousand and seven. 33 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: Your team goes eight and eight in year one, but 34 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: that second season, you had the same coordinators in place, 35 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: You get into the playoffs, you eventually get to the 36 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. How important was it for you in that 37 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: second season, coach, to have familiar faces on the coaching 38 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: staff and that established culture in place. Well, I think 39 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: it's you know, you never want to say it's it's 40 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: similar or we're going to do the same thing, but 41 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: I think the indicators there were, Um, we were playing 42 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: pretty good football that year. At the end of the season, 43 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: we went through some rocky times early in that season, 44 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: and part of that was a little bit different from 45 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: the standpoint of you know, we were in one place, 46 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: but um, you know, we had we were feeling each 47 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: other out, We had to find out about the players, 48 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: we had to find about find out about the coaches, 49 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: and um, you know. So I think the big thing 50 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: is where it feels really similar is at the end 51 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: of the year, we won that last game and we 52 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: had a great feeling going into the off season, and 53 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: that was that carried over. I mean, we still had 54 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: some rocky points the next year when we actually got 55 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, But um, at the end of 56 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: that season, the O eight season where we actually went 57 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, um, we were really playing good football. 58 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: We were playing together as a team. We believed we 59 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: could do it, and you know it thought a little 60 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: bit like this team this year, so hopefully we can 61 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 1: have that type of success. Let's get into the Super Bowl, coach, 62 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: because as you were in this spot nine years ago, 63 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: we just mentioned it, what's this week like for a 64 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: head coach? Is you prepare for the biggest game of 65 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: the season while dealing with everything that comes with it 66 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: that many would see his distractions, Well, I tell you, 67 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: the biggest thing is it's about everything but football this week. 68 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: There's so many things going on, from media commitments to 69 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: distractions at the super Bowl side even you know, one 70 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: of the things that you don't think about is even 71 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: getting in and out of the hotel. I mean, you 72 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: have you have security there and you have a section 73 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: where you know you can you can get to your 74 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: hotel rooms, but there's so many people in the hotel 75 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: and there's so many things going on. You know. That's 76 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: why the first week, which is last week for these teams, 77 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: is so important to get your plan in. You're You're 78 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: lucky because you have the extra week where you can 79 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: do some work on the opponent, you can actually practice, 80 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: you can look at your plan and think about things 81 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: that you may want to change. So this second week 82 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: is more about just refining your plan and being prepared 83 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: for the game. But I think one of the things 84 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: that's so critical is there's it's such a unique experience 85 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: from the standpoint of the commitments that you have outside 86 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: of football, and the actual game day is so different. 87 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: You know, it's there's so much of the start and stop, 88 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: start and stop that um you know, it can it 89 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: can really wear on you if you're not prepared for it. 90 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: And I think that you know, even for instance, just 91 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: the sense of coming off the field. For instance, now 92 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: in a regular season game and we come off the field, 93 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: usually you have about twelve thirteen minutes until the two 94 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: minute warning, and that's that's a time that's you know, 95 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: you're trying to get ready to go. You're nervous, you 96 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: have that nervous energy, and that twelve minutes feels like 97 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: a long time. But you get to the super Bowl 98 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: game and you come off that field and you're talking 99 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: about a half hour forty minutes before yeah, before you 100 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: get back out there, and you know, it is uh, 101 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: it is different, and there's no way to prepare for it. 102 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: You can talk about it all you want, but you know, 103 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: you just until you physically go through it. One of 104 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: the things that was really important for us in the 105 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: Super Bowls that I've been to was at halftime, we 106 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: had food because you know, when you think about it, 107 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: on a game day right now, for our team, you 108 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: have a pregame meal. Let's say we're playing a one 109 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: o'clock game. We have a pregame meal at nine o'clock 110 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: and then you go out and you play a game 111 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: from one to four thirty. I mean by the end 112 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: of that four thirty, you're hungry. You know, you've burned 113 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: a lot of energy. You've had that one meal. You 114 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: don't want to eat too much before the game because 115 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: you feel sluggish. Think about that from a super Bowl perspective. 116 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: You have your pregame meal. Now the game goes four 117 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: and a half hours, you got a long halftime. You know, 118 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: there's a legitimate chance you can run out of energy. 119 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: So there's all kinds of little things that go on 120 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: with that outside of just the actual game that you're 121 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: not prepared for that you have to work through. Coach, 122 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: what was your findest memory of that week? It was 123 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: one of the greatest Super Bowl games we've ever seen. 124 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: What was your findest memory of just experiencing that with 125 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: your team? My favorite memory. You know, when you get 126 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: to that point, it's so much about your family, because 127 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: in your friends, because everybody is so sited and they 128 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: all want to be involved the game is. You know, 129 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: certainly it's exciting and go to a game, but in 130 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: talking to a number of people that had been to 131 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 1: Super Bowls, and that's that's what you do. You know, 132 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: you you have a network of friends that you'll call 133 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: that have been to the Super Bowl and you say, hey, here, 134 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: what are the things that are important to you? And 135 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: one of the things that I did is I talked 136 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: with Coach Belichick this many years ago, just from the 137 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: standpoint of, um, you know, what are the things that 138 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: you look for? And he was very gracious and gave 139 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: me some insight. But one of the things that he 140 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: did that we ended up doing down in Tampa that 141 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: year was the Saturday walk through before the Super Bowl Sunday. 142 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: We did it at the facility that we were practicing at, 143 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: but we brought all the families to the walkthrough so 144 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: that we had buses and everybody's family came and we 145 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: had to walk through. And when once the walkthrough was over, 146 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: the families got to interact with the players. So you 147 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: got a chance to take pictures with players and enjoy 148 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: that experience. And to me, that was my favorite memory 149 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl Week. Coach Sunday, It's Patriots and Eagles, 150 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: two teams the Chargers saw up close this season. And 151 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: we'll start with Philadelphia, a team that the Chargers played 152 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: in Week four. Doug Peterson and a guy you coach 153 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: with in Arizona and with the Chargers Frank Wright. They've 154 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: done a heck of a job with that offense, especially 155 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: with Carson Wentz going down late in the season. What 156 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: have they done with Nick Foles in these playoffs that 157 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: have him playing at such a high level. Well, I 158 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: think they were fortunate that they had a talented player, 159 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: one that had played in big games before, that was 160 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: in that role as a backup, and it took a 161 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: little bit to get adjusted. I mean, nobody was giving 162 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: them a chance after Carson Wentz went down, but you 163 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: could see Foles playing a little bit better, and then 164 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: a little bit better, and then all of a sudden, 165 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: he's playing pretty good football. So he's been in that 166 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: situation before, where he's been in a big game, he's 167 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: had to make plays. I think that they did a 168 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: good job of staying true to their system and then 169 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: I think they geared it a little bit to doing 170 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: some of the things that he does well and it 171 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: allowed him to get some confidence. And I think he 172 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: played really well in the championship game. He did a 173 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: nice job. He obviously made some tremendous throws, and you know, 174 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: they've done a good job with their scheme of trying 175 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: to tailor it each week to how they're going to 176 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: attack their opponents, and from during the season and watching 177 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: them play, because a lot of times when would play 178 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: some teams that they had played and we got to 179 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: see their offense against the defenses that we were scouting. 180 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: You know, you could see some of the concepts that 181 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: they were running and how they attacked him. They did 182 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: a nice job of that. They had a good plan 183 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: and they did a good job of executing that. And 184 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: the thing is he fulls experienced quarterback. He's a smart guy. 185 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: He was involved with that all along the process. So 186 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: it's you know, in a lot of ways, it was 187 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: a little bit fortunate that Carson went down early enough 188 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: that he had a chance to get his feet wet 189 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: and get playing again, so that he was playing at 190 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: a good level as they got into the playoffs. And 191 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: you know, they have they have two great running backs 192 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: to with Jgi and Legarrett Blunt who has that Super 193 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: Bowl experience. How did this offense match up with the 194 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: Patriots defense that started season slow, but you know, they 195 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: really tightened things up after the first four weeks of 196 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: the season. They're allowing a lot of points really tightened 197 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: things up after Week four. Well, you know, I think 198 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: that the Patriots do such a great job of scheming 199 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: trying to take away what you do well. But one 200 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: of the things that the Eagles have done a lot 201 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: of things well, they've run the ball effectively, like you said, 202 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: with the two backs, they've been able to throw it. 203 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: You know, the Jeffrey agal Are, those guys have been 204 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: very productive and their tight ends have been playing really 205 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: well for him. So, you know, I think the big 206 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: thing that New England's going to obviously try to take 207 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: that away, but I think but I think Philly will 208 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: do a good job of scheming their matchups and I 209 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: would I would expect to see the tight ends have 210 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: a big role in this game because that's an area 211 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: with um that I think that they're gonna that I 212 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: would think they would try to exploit, which they've done 213 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: very well this year. Coach Chargers played the Patriots in 214 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: the middle of the year, and you mentioned Coach Belichick 215 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: at the top. They're making their eights Super Bowl appearance, 216 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: Belichick and Brady and they can beat in so many 217 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: different ways. They got a stable of running backs to 218 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: go with all those weapons. On the outside. What's the 219 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: most difficult thing to prepare for when going up against 220 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: a Brady lit offense. That's just it what he does. 221 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: You know, he does such a good job of being 222 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: able to find the open player when they're running, when 223 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: they're passing the ball. But I think one of the 224 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: things that really stands out to me about the Patriots 225 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: is they're guys. They have a knack for making that 226 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: huge play in the important part of the game. You know, 227 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: they can get the one on one matchups, whether it's 228 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: a they're trying to match up a back running against 229 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: a linebacker or where they're trying to get a deep 230 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: shot down the field to a receiver. But you see 231 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: a lot of plays where they make big plays, a 232 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: contested catch. You know. You can think about some of 233 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: the plays in the Super Bowl, even last year, where 234 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: the guys will make a great catch. Looking at the 235 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: Championship game, the catch that Amadola made in the end zone. 236 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: You know that he got both feet down and still 237 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: made the catch. You know, that's what they've done so 238 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: well in big moments. Their players make those big plays. 239 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: You know they're there, and a lot of that is 240 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: because Brady understands that and he puts the ball. He's 241 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: so accurate with delivering the ball that he puts him 242 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: into places where these guys can make those catches, and 243 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: they do that and they're not afraid to go back 244 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: to the run game. One of the things it's most 245 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: difficult to defend against those guys in watching them is 246 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: when they go in their hurry up offense and go 247 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: to the line and run their zone scheme runs a 248 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: lot of times which go to the left side. They're 249 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: very effective with that, So you know, as a defense, 250 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: those are things that are challenging to prepare for because 251 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: it happens quick. You're trying to get lined up, and 252 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: they're very efficient in their zone scheme of running those plays. So, 253 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: you know, the biggest thing I see from those guys 254 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: is they've been together for a number of years so 255 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: when you get into those situations where you have to 256 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: make a play or you have to go fast to 257 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: try to get the advantage, they've done that before. They've 258 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: had success doing that, so they're very confident that they'll 259 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: be able to do it, and you know they play well. 260 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: If the Patriots do win this, they'll certainly earn it 261 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: against a Jaguars defense a couple of weeks ago and 262 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: then this Eagles defense, and coach you had a game 263 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: plan against both of these defenses. They're both elite. What's 264 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: the biggest difference between the two? Well, I mean, obviously 265 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: the Eagles defense is a different scheme of defense. They're 266 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: an up the field pressure football team. They're trying to 267 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: create disruption with their defensive line, and you know they've 268 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: taken away the run because they're so physical getting up 269 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: the field and you know they're trying to get pressure 270 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:44,479 Speaker 1: on the quarterback. That's which whereas the Patriots are scheming you. 271 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: You know they're giving you multiple looks, they're they're looking 272 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: to try to confuse you with what they're giving you 273 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: and then create those matchups where they can make plays. 274 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: So it's going to be an interesting chess match, chess 275 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: match between those two defenses. So you know, they're both challenging, 276 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: like you said, because New England has been playing their scheme, 277 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: they're they're very good at it. Where Philadelphia is more 278 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: they're going to outphysical you and get you just because 279 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: they're putting pressure on you with their front four, trying 280 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: to make you get the ball out before you're ready 281 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: to it and make a mistake. A lot of fun storyline. 282 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: It's gonna be really intrigue you on Sunday. We'll get 283 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: you at here on this coach. You don't have to 284 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: give me a score or anything. But what do you 285 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: think is going to decide this game? Obviously, you have 286 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: Brady on one side, you have Falls on the other. 287 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: Two good defenses, and in a lot of areas they 288 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: really mirror each other. I'm just intrigued to what you 289 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: think could decide this game. That's a that's a good question. 290 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: I think it's really going to come down to how 291 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: Philadelphia's offense plays against their defense. You know, I think 292 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: Philadelphia's defense against Brady is going to be good at times, 293 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: and there's going to be times where, um they have success. 294 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: But it's really going to come down to how Falls 295 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: and those guys in Philly can operate against his defense, 296 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: and if they can make those plays down the field 297 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: in the past game and they're effectiveness running of football. 298 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: One of the things that they've been so good at 299 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: is running the ball with Jayagi and la Garrett Blunt 300 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: and then mixing in the play auction off of that. 301 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: That's where they've had tremendous success, so are they going 302 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: to be able to have success with that? I think 303 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: it's that's what it's really going to come down to. 304 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fascinating. We're excited for Sunday, and Coach, 305 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: we're throwing your back. I can't thank you enough for 306 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: your time today, and I really hope to catch up 307 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: with you again this offseason. Great being with you today 308 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: and excited to see what happens is Sunday. All right, 309 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: we're fresh off the Senior Bowl and exactly one month 310 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: away from the twenty eighteen NFL Scouting Combine and Indie 311 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: please be joined by Dane Brugler of NFL Draft scout 312 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: dot com or some early draft talk. And Dane, let's 313 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: start with the Senior Bowl. A lot to digest, But 314 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: what did you learn from the week that may have 315 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: changed your opinions on some of these guys going into Mobile. 316 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if we necessarily learned something that we 317 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: didn't know, but I think, just like the Combine, just 318 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: like pro days and workouts, these pre draft events help 319 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: as kind of cross checking exercises, you know, make sure 320 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: that what we see on the tape matches up. You 321 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: know the best player I saw in Mobile this week, 322 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: it might be Isaiah Winn. The Georgia played left tackles 323 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: past year after the SEC champs, moved inside the guard, 324 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: which we expected, but he did during practice at the 325 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: seniorable practices and he was outstanding. Just a few times 326 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: blockers got through him in one on one drills. You 327 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: see the initial puns, you see the hip sync, you 328 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: see the ability to adjust and re anchor on the move. 329 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: To me Isaiah win the first round player, I think 330 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: he's going to be somewhere in that late first early 331 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: second round range. Will Hernandez, the guard from UTEP, also 332 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: had a great week. So the interior linemen really showed up. 333 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: A couple of small school guys. This is the kind 334 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: of their chance to show that they can step up 335 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: against big competition. Nathan Shepherd Defend, the tackle from Fort 336 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: Hayes State, was dominant through two practices. Unfortunately he broke 337 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: his hand on Wednesday practice, but he was nearly unblockable 338 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: for those first one and a half practices. He helped 339 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: himself greatly. I heard some top one hundred buzz for him. 340 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: And then, of course we have talked about the quarterbacks, 341 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield Josh Allen, those two being the top attractions. 342 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: I thought Baker Mayfield was the best quarterback there in 343 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: what we saw at Oklahoma. He showed in Mobile and 344 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: I think we had to give both these guys credit 345 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: for just showing up. A lot of times, the top 346 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: quarterbacks will choose to skip this event. You know, they're 347 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: going into a setting where it's unfamiliar coaching, it's brand 348 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: new receivers, The timing, the chemistry can be off. But 349 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: both of these guys came and they competed at They 350 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: deserve credit for that and both helped themselves. Baker Mayfield, 351 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: everything was quick snapped, the release. I was kind of 352 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: worried that, you know, we know Josh Allen has a 353 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: huge arm, and it showed the zip and velocity on 354 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: his throws. We're outstanding, And I was kind of worried 355 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: that Mayfield going you know, right after, right before Josh 356 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: Allen would necessarily you know, his arm wouldn't look as strong, yeah, 357 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: compared to Allen's. And but that wasn't the case. You 358 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: see the risk snap, you see the ball coming out 359 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: of his hand quickly, So I thought, you know, Mayfield 360 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:24,479 Speaker 1: the anticipation, accuracy, throwing on the move. Everything we saw 361 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma, he showed a mobile So I think he 362 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: kind of cemented his place as the top senior quarterback 363 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: and he was the top quarterback in mobile that I saw. Yeah, 364 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think I think Baker Mayfield 365 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: was certainly worth his while to go to Mobile and perform. 366 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: He came in a little bit late, but I think 367 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: he handled the week very well. And then Josh Allen, 368 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 1: to your point, I mean he had he had a 369 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: good week. He had a nice third quarter in that game, 370 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: showed a little touch on the ball. And do you 371 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: think that those guys proved that their top fifteen picks 372 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: this year in how close? And I asked a few 373 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: people this last week, how close is that gap between 374 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: guys that we weren't able to see last week? Josh 375 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: Rosen and Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield, Josh Allen, When 376 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: you talk about the top half of that first round, 377 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: there will be no consensus answer to that question. You know, 378 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: the thirty two NFL teams, we're going to have thirty 379 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: two different opinions on those top four quarterbacks. And I'd 380 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: even throw Lamar Jackson in the mix. You know, it's 381 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: just there's so many varying opinions on these guys. With 382 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, you know, you loved everything from the intangibles, 383 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: the passing, anticipation, his ability to improvise on the move, 384 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: but the turnovers, the lack of you know, the fact 385 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: that he was so good as a rester freshman kind 386 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 1: of took a step back as a retter sophomore. Now 387 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: some of that surrounding cast and there's some other context 388 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,239 Speaker 1: that belongs in that conversation, but still there's there's going 389 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: to be some question marks there. With Josh Rosen, everything's 390 00:18:53,160 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: pretty the release, the way is pocket mechanics, but there's 391 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: some issues there with his decision making. And then off 392 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: the field, there's plenty of questions about his mental makeup, 393 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: his character, things that NFL teams are really gonna have 394 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: to dig into that you know they have been digging 395 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: into and try to figure out. And then of course 396 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Baker Mayfield with Alan to me, I 397 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: call him scouting katnim because he is everything that you 398 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: want from a physical perspective, is the size, the athleticism, 399 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: the arm talent, but he's still undeveloped in several critical 400 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 1: areas of playing the position, from the timing, the body 401 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: rhythm than the overall accuracy down the field. And I 402 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: think you're absolutely right. He had a great third quarter, 403 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: and he had he got better throughout the week. And 404 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: that's really what scouts you're looking for at the Senior Bowls, 405 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: for these prospects to take the coaching there that they're 406 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: getting and not only implement it, but then improved throughout 407 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: the week. And that's something we saw from Josh Allen 408 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: from Tuesday to Wednesday to Thursday and then into the game. 409 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: He showed that steady progression improvement that we wanted to see. 410 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: And so I think scouts, I don't think Josh Allen 411 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: necessarily converted non believers that he is the real deal. 412 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: But anyone that went into the game went into the 413 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl week believing in Josh Allen or intrigued, I 414 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: think they left with the same type of feelings. He 415 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: definitely didn't hurt himself by going to Moville, Baker, Mayfield, 416 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, those were the headliners. They really stole all 417 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: the headlines. But there's a couple other quarterbacks there. You 418 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: talk about Mike White from Western Kentucky actually teammates with 419 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: Forrest Slamp who the Chargers are excited to see on 420 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: the field in twenty eighteen. And then Kyle Aletta from Richmond. 421 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: How did these guys fit into this quarterback draft puzzle? Yeah, 422 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: both both played well and both were on the South squad, 423 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: so they were competing against each other during practice. Lauletta 424 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: is interesting, you know, coming from the FCS level. He 425 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: wondered how the jump in competition, the speed, how that 426 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: would affect him, and he he looked like he belonged. 427 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: He did not look out of place with Lauletta. I 428 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: see a player that is similar to kind of like 429 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: a Trevor Simeon, where you know, he's a smart, he's tough, 430 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: he's accurate. H you know, the physical traits are okay 431 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: not they're just vowue. But he's he's a very tough kid. 432 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: And he said Richmond, he got better every year he toured. 433 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: They seems a junior, but he came back strong this 434 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: year and proved his production from the previous two years. 435 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: And he comes from a quarterback family. His dad was 436 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: a quarterback at Navy, and Lauletta he had to deal 437 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: with four different offensive coordinators at Richmond. So this is 438 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: a guy who has been through a lot of different systems. Uh, 439 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: He's had a lot of playbooks to digest. He's a 440 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: very sharp guy. And I think we saw that this 441 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: week at the Senior Bowl in the game as the MVP, 442 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: he played really well. And then Mike White, you know, 443 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: his stats and his production dropped off this past year. 444 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: But you know a big part of that was obviously 445 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: losing the coaching staff, coach Bram going to Purdue. Uh, 446 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: and you know, of course losing his his left tackle, 447 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: Forest Lamp. Yeah, that's a big part of it too. 448 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: But with with with Mike, He's again not not going 449 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: to wow you with a physical traits necessarily, but he 450 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: has an understanding for placement, has an understanding for timing, 451 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: a very good rhythm thrower. He made plenty of nice 452 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: plays throughout the week. UM, I think to me, Mike 453 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: White is competing with Mason Rudolph to be that second 454 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: quarterback off the board and then Lauletta. He's put himself 455 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: right in the mix to be that that sex Se 456 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: mid round development project. I don't he's not quite Jimmy Garoppolo. 457 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not going to put him up on 458 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: that pedestal. I heard a lot of people talking about 459 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: that comparison, Dane, the Jimmy Garoppolo comparison, and you know, 460 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: you may want to pump the prints on that little bit, right. Yeah. 461 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: To me, that's just it's low hanging fruit. I mean, 462 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: I get it. It's you know, Jimmy g was kind 463 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: of a hot name right now with what are you 464 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: doing in San Francisco. Garoppolo was a legitimate first or 465 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: second rounder when he came out of Eastern Illinois. Well, 466 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: letter is a good player, but he's more of someone 467 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: that belongs in the third the fifth round mix, which 468 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: isn't a bad thing. You know, He's still very worthy 469 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: of a mid round draft pick and a guy that 470 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: you want to develop. I just wouldn't put him in 471 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: the same conversation as Garoppolo coming out of college. And 472 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: you mentioned Mason Rudolph. He wasn't able to perform at 473 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, but he did show up at the beginning. 474 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: I think that was kudos to him for at least 475 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: coming and talking to the media and talking to some 476 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: of these teams. Dave we Move over to the linebackers 477 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: and you see if linebacker Schakeem Griffin the overall practice 478 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: player of the week of the Senior Bowl. Tuesday, he 479 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: was officially invited to the combine, which probably took a 480 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: little bit too long in my opinion. What did he 481 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: show you last week that really made you say, hey, 482 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: this guy can make an impact in the NFL. Well, 483 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: he played exactly how he played on his tape and 484 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: that was just the play speed, non stop. He doesn't 485 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: fatigue out there. You watch him against Memphis in the 486 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: Conference championship game, he was going full speed late into 487 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: the into overtime. I mean it just he does not 488 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: take a playoff. It's amazing how fast he plays. And uh, 489 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: it's just it's NonStop, relentless energy. Um. Obviously there's you know, 490 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: the questions, but you know he's missing his left hand. 491 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: Um there are you know, it's that is a limitation. Uh, 492 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: there's just no way around it. You know, it's gonna 493 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: hurt him when he tries to take on blockers. Um, 494 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: it's going to hurt him sometimes when he tries to 495 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: make tackles, especially off balanced tackles. But when you watch 496 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: the play speed, you watch the intelligence, and you just 497 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: love the passion for the game. There's a place for 498 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: him on my football team. I think he starts off 499 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: as a special teams demon, a guy that's going to 500 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: you know, be the first one down on special teams 501 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: and look to make plays. And then I'm gonna bring 502 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: him in as a sub package linebacker. Let him rush 503 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: off the edge, let him drop um. You know, he 504 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: do a little bit of everything. He's not going to 505 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: be an every down player, probably, but this is a 506 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: draft stable player and a guy who continues no matter what. 507 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: You know. This past season as a senior, he defied 508 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: odds at the Senior Bowl. He did the same. He'll 509 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: probably do the same at the Combine. He's been doing 510 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: it his entire life. So and that's the biggest thing, 511 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: you know, talking with scouts about him. It's not like 512 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: he lost his left hand two years ago in a 513 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: car accident. You know, he's not had that left hand 514 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: since the age of four. So he doesn't know how 515 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: to play football any other way. And so I think 516 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: that's that's something that really stands out because he understands 517 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: how to use kind of the limitation to his advantage 518 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: in certain ways. And to me, he's he's going to 519 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: be a draft ting There's no question about it. And 520 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: I think there's a plenty of NFL teams who believe 521 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: in his ability to play the game at a high 522 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: level in the NFL. I mentioned at the top, we're 523 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: just a month away from the Combine, and really, like 524 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: you said, like the Senior Bowl, it's just another piece 525 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: of the pie here in the draft evaluation process. Besides 526 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: the medical which obviously you here from teams is the 527 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: most important part of the weekend. What questions get answered 528 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: that may affect a team's draft board Nindie, Well, yeah, 529 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: and like I mentioned earlier, it's kind of a cross 530 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: checking exercise where you know, guys that are expected to 531 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: run fast, you want to make sure that they do 532 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: run fast. Guys that maybe looked a little tight in 533 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: their movements, Okay, well, how do they do in the 534 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: three cone drill? How do they do in the you know, 535 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: the short agility drills that help measure that that short 536 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: area quickness. And I think, you know, the medicals are 537 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: definitely number one. I think number two at the combine 538 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: is probably the interviews. Getting guys up on the whiteboard. 539 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: You know, what's their football intelligence? What's their recall an 540 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: ability to understand the information that they're being taught and 541 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: then you know, spit it back out. Just how much 542 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,719 Speaker 1: do they know the intelligence, the mental makeup. I think 543 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: the interview process is absolutely just imperative. And because for 544 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: these scouts have been on the road, they've been doing 545 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: the work. But for a lot of these general managers, 546 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: a lot of these coaches, the interviews at the combine 547 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: good chance that's going to be their first introduction to 548 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: the player, and so first introductions they mean a lot. 549 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,719 Speaker 1: And so the interviews are a big part of it. 550 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: And then of course you know the way ends and 551 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: the on field drills, getting you know, just putting quantitative 552 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: data to the athleticism, getting a chance to compare these 553 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: guys athletes. Sometimes I can help separate different players. But 554 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: above all, if a guy runs faster than you necessarily expected, 555 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: well then it's time to go back to the tape 556 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: and figure out why what did we miss that this 557 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: guy's a better athlete than we expected. And maybe he's 558 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: just you know, a workout warrior and trying to figure 559 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: out that puzzle. So there's plenty to learn. In Indian 560 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: we're still well, we're under about a month away, so 561 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: plenty of prep to do for Indianapolis. Dan. I look 562 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: back to last year and I think of a guy 563 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: like John Ross, who I think a lot of people 564 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: had is like a late first, early second. Then he 565 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: runs that ridiculous forty time, and all of a sudden 566 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: he's a top ten pick. Do things like that at 567 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: the combine really affect a team's board that much? Or 568 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: you know, was a guy like John Ross in that 569 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: conversation as a top ten pick. It's just it's just 570 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: funny to me how we look at one thing and 571 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: gets really hyped up, and not that it trumps what 572 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: you see on tape, but a lot of stock is 573 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 1: put into it. And then thus, you know, you see 574 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: a guy like Ross go in the top ten, right, 575 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: and you know we can site case after case. Yeah, 576 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 1: there's so many of that worked out well. Yeah, you know, 577 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: and it's tough because I get it with John Ross. 578 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: I think going into the combine, he was viewed as 579 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: a later first round pick, and then he had that speed, 580 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: and you know it's kind of like, you know, we 581 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: already knew he was fast, but does he really deserve 582 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: to jump fifteen spots in the draft twenty spots in 583 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: the draft because he ran a little bit faster than 584 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: you expect. And you know, we saw this past year 585 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: as a rookie how that worked out for him. And 586 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: you know, by no means am I giving up on 587 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: John Ross. We'll see what he does in year two 588 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: for the Bengals. But so far, it's hard to look 589 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: at that pick, you know, in a favorable way. You 590 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: just you hope that you know, you don't let the 591 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: numbers kind of affect the tape um. You know, I 592 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: think it's eighty percent tape, twenty percent, uh the everything 593 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: else or you know, eighty five fifteen whatever you know, 594 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: ratio you want to spit out. Their bottom line, the 595 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: tape is what matters more than anything. That's where you know, 596 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: it's it's a guy playing football. The pads are on. Uh, 597 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: you know, how does he run? Not necessarily just in 598 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: a straight line, but the speed in his routes? Uh 599 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: for a cornerback, Uh, you know, taking wasted steps doesn't 600 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: matter if he's a corner as four three speed. If 601 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: he's taking wasted or wasted steps and the body rhythms off, 602 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter how fast he is. So there's 603 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: plenty that goes into it. A lot of coaches feel that, hey, 604 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: as long as he has the speed, but we can't 605 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: teach speed, but we could teach everything else. We could 606 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,959 Speaker 1: teach a technique, We can teach the things that he's lacking. 607 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: And I get that thinking from a head coach perspective 608 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: or an assistant coach perspective. But at the same time, 609 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: if he's not showing it on tape, and you know, 610 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: during workouts he doesn't show it, it's hard to really 611 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: believe in that, especially in the first round. So hopefully 612 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: the teams don't get too seduced by the numbers, but 613 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: you know, it happens almost every year. Dan, the Chargers 614 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: select at number seventeen. Overall this year, a lot of 615 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: different positions could be in play. And I know it's early, 616 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: but I want to throw out a few names that 617 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: I've seen tied to the Chargers in a million mock 618 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: drafts that we're going to see you over the next 619 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: three months that did not play in the Senior Bowl. 620 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: Just get your kind of quick hit initial reaction to them. 621 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: And the first, I think is actually a guy that 622 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: you had in your first mock, a very intriguing prospect 623 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: from Florida State, the safety Durwin James. Yeah, I did. 624 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: And Durwin's interesting because he's a better act than polished 625 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: football player right now. But this guy is everything football. 626 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he's I think he has a chance to 627 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: be a big time player. Uh he projects best. That's 628 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: kind of a big nickel defender where he can do 629 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: a little bit of everything. He can blitz off the edge, 630 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: he can play man the man, he could play deep safety. 631 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: I think he has such a high ceiling. He was 632 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: so good as a true freshman and twenty fifteen, then 633 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: he missed all two o them sixteen with an injury, 634 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: and he came back his past year and you could 635 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: tell there's a little bit of rust, and he got 636 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: better towards the end of the season, but he's still 637 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: lacking in a few areas. But I think it's more 638 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: inexperienced based than you know, he's not gonna be able 639 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: to do it. And so I think for a team, 640 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: if they can get Derwin James, and that's somewhere in 641 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: the teams, that could end up being a huge bargain 642 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: because the ceiling is very high with Dirwin. Another guy, 643 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: defensive tackle Vita Vea from Washington. The Charges had had 644 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: some trouble stopping the run this year, especially when Denzel 645 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: perim And was out of the lineup. You look at 646 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: the rotation that they've already formed, it may be nice 647 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,239 Speaker 1: to get another guy in the mix like Veya. They 648 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: is a rare guy. Eager to see what his way 649 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: in looks like at the combine because he looks about 650 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: three hundred and forty pounds, but at the same time, 651 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: you know, his movement skills look like he looks like 652 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: he's two hundred and forty. He's one of the few 653 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: guys where you're gonna watch on one play him take 654 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: on a double team and split the double team and 655 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: then the next play chase down a ball, carry got 656 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: the sideline. I mean, it's just amazing the physical traits 657 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: what he can do. He really is a rare guy. 658 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: I just there's a lot of questions about his discipline, 659 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: the technique, being able to show the same intensity for 660 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: all four quarters, and you know, those things are are 661 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: question marks, but there's no questions about the traits. And 662 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: that's why I think there's a good chance he could 663 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: go somewhere in the top fifteen picks. But if he 664 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: is available in the fifteen to twenty area, I don't 665 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: think it's going to take very long for a team 666 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: to snatch him up. Again, there's going to be questions 667 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: about him, especially with this the technique and the discipline, 668 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: but if you know, you just don't see guys like 669 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: this very often with these types of the power traits 670 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: in the athleticism. Some other interesting defensive tackles in this 671 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: draft that could be potentially draft in the first round. 672 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: Another guy, Deron Payne from Alabama Deane. He had a 673 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: good season this past year, but it is amazing how 674 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: he played his two best games that I've ever seen 675 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: him play in the in the playoffs, the College Football 676 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: Playoff against Clemson he had the interception, he had the 677 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: touchdown catch. And then against Georgia in the championship game, 678 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: he was outstanding. It's like he knew he was going 679 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: pro and he just he put everything into those final 680 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: two games. Okay, well, why didn't I see this whole year? 681 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: You know, I want to see it more because you 682 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: you love the traits. He's a fluid big man, reminds 683 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: me of He doesn't have the same nastiness and production 684 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: as Indomican Sue, But there's a lot of Endomican Sue 685 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: to his game with the way he moves, the upper body, power, 686 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: the quick hips. There's a lot to like about the 687 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: traits and the player he can grow into. My biggest 688 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: question is the player that we saw in the championship 689 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: game and the semis. Why didn't we see that all year? 690 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: Because if we saw that all year, Duran Payne would 691 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: be a lock top ten pick, maybe as high as 692 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,439 Speaker 1: the top five. We just I want to see it more, 693 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: and so we're trying to figure out why we didn't 694 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: see it earlier in the season. All Right, a couple 695 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:39,439 Speaker 1: more here. His teammate, the linebacker Rashaan Evans. Chargers may 696 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: be looking at a linebacker ethan free agency in the 697 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 1: draft to go with guys like Denzel Perriman, and Evans 698 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: is an intriguing prospect. Man he is, and he was 699 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: a kind of a strong side linebacker. Nick Sabans multiple 700 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: front seven. You know, he would go down the line 701 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: of scrimmage and put his hand on the ground and 702 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: rush off the edge and obvious passing down. But you know, 703 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: I really was disappointed he chose not to play at 704 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl because I really wanted to see him 705 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: dropping coverage and see how he could hold up. We 706 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: do it a little bit at Alabama, but most of 707 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: the time he was a downhill player. That's his strength, 708 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: his ability to take on blocks, match power for power, 709 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: very powerful tackler. So I wanted to see him how 710 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: he did in space, how he did anticipating passing windows 711 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: and hold up against the backs out of the backfield 712 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,439 Speaker 1: tight ends. And we didn't get a chance to see 713 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: that at the Senior Bowl, and we only see a 714 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: little bit of it on his tape. But Rashaan Evans 715 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: is a very good player. To me, I see more 716 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: of a late first rounder. But if Roquan Smith Tremaine 717 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: Edmund the top two linebackers are off the board, I 718 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: think there are several teams a Chargers, the Cowboys who 719 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: are going to be looking at Rashaan Evans. That the 720 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: possibility in that mid first all right, Dane. Last one 721 00:35:55,920 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: on the offensive line, underclassman Orlando Brown from Oklahoma. You 722 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: look at some of these offensive linemen in the in 723 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: the first round that could potentially be drafted, and this 724 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: is a guy who really rises above most. Orlando Brown 725 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: is a is a big man, and a son of 726 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: Zeus Brown, a longtime NFL player passed away a few 727 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: years ago. But he's another guy eager to see what 728 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 1: he weighs in at because he's about looks about sixty 729 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: eight three hundred forty pounds and he's not your traditional 730 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: left tackle where you know he has the foot quickness, 731 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: uh and you know he moves like Joe Thomas anything 732 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,919 Speaker 1: like that. He lumbers a little bit, but he's able 733 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: to get away with it because he's so wide his 734 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,919 Speaker 1: bass h so he's able to shut down the edge. 735 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: It worked for him at Oklahoma. He's a little sluggish 736 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: when he pulls. His hand placements an issue, but for 737 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: a guy that's that size and he moves well enough. 738 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: There's a lot of different opinions out there in the NFL. 739 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: Some guys believe he can get an NFL left tackle 740 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: from day one. Some are a little more skeptical, so 741 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: eager to see him at the combine. There's plenty we 742 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,720 Speaker 1: can learn about him. This tackle class is really all 743 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,399 Speaker 1: over the map. Some prefer Connor Williams from Texas, some 744 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,720 Speaker 1: prefer Orlando Brown Oklahoma, and then there's about a handful 745 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,919 Speaker 1: of other guys that will be considered in the late 746 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 1: first and then into the second round, so there's a