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Speaker 1: Wow, everybody, It's Monday, September twenty second, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

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Speaker 2: But we're regretting a lot of our draft picks.

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Speaker 1: It's me and your man, MG Marcus Grand joined by

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Speaker 1: Michael Florio and Laqwan Jones. We three, Uh, okay, let's

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Speaker 1: just I just want you to get it.

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Speaker 2: I know you, I know you.

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Speaker 3: No, No, it's fine, you get it out. You get

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Speaker 3: it out.

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Speaker 2: What I'm looking to say yet?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, here's it. The Rams are still a

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Speaker 1: very good team. They lost to a very good team.

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Speaker 1: I get that. It's painful how it happened. No, you

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Speaker 1: know that that the Los Angeles Lambs coughed up in

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Speaker 1: nineteen point lead in the second half. Hey, yo, wow,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, just just I'm sorry. Just it just rolls

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Speaker 1: off the tongue. I can't help it. It's just the

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Speaker 1: thing that that rolls off. I've never heard that before.

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Speaker 3: That is not the worst thing I've heard in the

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Speaker 3: last twelve hours. I would say that I've had family

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Speaker 3: members that I haven't spoken to since I was fourteen,

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Speaker 3: gang in my DM that like cousins.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, damn y'all don't love me no more, Like

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Speaker 1: that's that's how much dirt you're gonna put in my

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Speaker 1: face after this loss, Like it's insane. But it's all right,

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Speaker 1: that's right. I'm gonna let this lost kind of settle.

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Speaker 1: But objectively, like the Rams are a good team. They

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Speaker 1: lost to a good team.

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Speaker 3: So like saying that I don't think the Eagles are

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Speaker 3: a good team. That's the side I'm taking right now.

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Speaker 1: They had thirty three total yards at they have they

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Speaker 1: are trash exposed team.

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Speaker 4: Yes, they are undefeated and the super Bowl champs. I mean,

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Speaker 4: and they were in the Super Bowl like two years

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Speaker 4: before that.

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Speaker 3: And right, let's take away push they're a bland team.

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Speaker 4: They are in the No, I do want to shout

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Speaker 4: out the Rams because you guys got a lead, a

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Speaker 4: two score lead, and force them to start throwing. Yes,

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Speaker 4: and hopefully they realize that, hey, maybe we should get

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Speaker 4: a J Brown and Devata Smith the ball more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, for from fantasy managers everywhere, we do

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Speaker 1: want to thank the Rams for reminding the Eagles that

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Speaker 1: they have like good pass catchers on their teams.

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Speaker 3: We made Batman angry. That's all.

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Speaker 1: That's all that I know if you saw the quote

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Speaker 1: from him afterwards, I think something's the effect of I

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Speaker 1: don't want this to sound negative, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: why did you Why are you able.

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Speaker 2: To come back in second half? And he's like, we don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to sound negative, but they got me

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Speaker 1: the ball. It's as simple as that.

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Speaker 4: It's one hundred true because it wasn't even like, you know,

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Speaker 4: like he was just oh, ten yards like he would

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Speaker 4: catch the ball, break like eight tackles, running like yeah Williams, Yeah, man.

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Speaker 3: I pointed out last week with Darius Williams, so A J.

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Speaker 3: Brown got his bounce back, I hate one him right,

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Speaker 3: and it's against my team.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, I really was with you until you were

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Speaker 1: like the Eagles aren't the good team.

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Speaker 2: And now I'm like, you're just being unserious at this point.

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Speaker 4: Because because usually we don't hear from Lakwan, last night

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Speaker 4: he was texting us late like I was like, this

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Speaker 4: dude is not sleeping after that game.

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Speaker 1: There's also there was a love that was silence during

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Speaker 1: the day.

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Speaker 4: There was hours where we did not there was.

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Speaker 1: A silence during the day in the text shot because Lakwan,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure was just like you know, licking his wounds

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Speaker 1: and hearing from long lost family members apparently who showed up.

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Speaker 3: Damy don't love me nowhere, that's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Half half the Jones family was happy though, because the

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Speaker 4: Chargers won.

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Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. So your your son had a

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Speaker 1: good day. Your son had a good day.

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Speaker 3: He was just so shocked as me. But we'll talk

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Speaker 3: about that off camera.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: Wow, uh yeah, we we got all have to talk

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Speaker 1: about though. Here you show today, we're gonna go through

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Speaker 1: some of the big questions of week three. We will

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Speaker 1: check in with some notable rookies, some were up, some

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Speaker 1: were down, and kind of get the pulse of how

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Speaker 1: we're feeling about that. Plus waiver wire as always, and

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Speaker 1: guys that we're at least temporarily done with. They're going

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Speaker 1: But I want to start with some news because there

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Speaker 1: was a lot of news that came out of Sunday,

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Speaker 1: a lot of injury news that came out of Sunday.

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Speaker 1: One of the Biglins, James Connor, was carted off with

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Speaker 1: what at the time looked like a knee injury. I

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Speaker 1: he is going to have ankle surgery. They're saying out indefinitely.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm sure you guys both saw it

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Speaker 1: the way it looked bad. It looks bad. I would

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Speaker 1: be very surprised if we see James Connor again in

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five season. Who knows, but certainly best

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Speaker 1: wishes to him in whatever recovery he's gonna have to

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Speaker 1: endure for the next several months. And you know, he

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Speaker 1: was running the ball well again against the forty nine

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Speaker 2: I knew it was bad. I mean just seeing it

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Speaker 2: knew you knew it was bad.

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Speaker 1: But when both teams like in full come out onto

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Speaker 4: I did. The network was like, we're not going to

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Speaker 4: show it, it's so bad, and then like a minute

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Speaker 4: later I saw it like eight replays, like yeah, I

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Speaker 4: didn't need to see that.

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Speaker 1: So obviously, Trey Benson is next man up, a guy

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Speaker 1: who was getting work anyway, even with a healthy James Connor,

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Speaker 1: but now he slides into that RB one role. So

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Speaker 1: what two questions for you here, FLORYA One, what is

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Speaker 1: the ceiling for Trey Benson for the rest of the season,

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Speaker 1: because I'm at this point he's sort of working on

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Speaker 1: the assumption we're not gonna see Connor for a while.

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Speaker 1: And second part, is it worth going to pick up

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Speaker 1: Imari de Mercado.

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Speaker 4: I think Trey Benson, if he's out there in leagues

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Speaker 4: and he isn't some he is the biggest pickup of

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Speaker 4: the year so far. I think I would argue we

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Speaker 4: have already seen Benson playing a lot of passing downs

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Speaker 4: like that. I was actually worried before James Connor got

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Speaker 4: passing downs on lock. He would get all the carries.

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Speaker 4: He was still getting all of the carries, but the

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Speaker 4: that third down stuff like that. So I think Benson

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Speaker 4: could be an RB two moving forward, Like there'll be

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Speaker 4: some weeks where he finishes as an RB one. There'll

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Speaker 4: but I think when all is said and done, he

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Speaker 4: like I have him as a start in start sit,

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Speaker 4: which I like I'm writing already because they get the

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Speaker 4: Seahawks on Thursday night. It's a short week, and the

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Speaker 4: Seahawks have allowed the most receiving production two running backs

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Speaker 4: so far this year. As for de Bercado, we saw

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Speaker 4: him get two carries yesterday and one target. I think

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Speaker 4: he as of right now is a deep league guy.

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Speaker 4: Right Like in our fourteen team Kings Classic League, he

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Speaker 4: should be picked up. But in a regular twelve team league,

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Speaker 4: I don't think he is a must add or anything

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Speaker 4: like that. More of a handcuff in case something happens

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Speaker 4: he's not someone that I'm like super bullish, like I

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Speaker 4: need to get on all my teams this week.

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Speaker 1: It's more like a yet at all. Right, Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: that sounds about right. Remember yet that that was a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Had that run for a few

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Speaker 4: Yeah, gave me a lot of content on flex to

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Speaker 4: forget about.

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Speaker 1: It's very it's kind of an Italian sounding name, right,

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Speaker 1: I'm already de.

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Speaker 2: Mercado, like the whole thing. Yeah, yeah, you know, I.

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Speaker 1: Forget about not as much, but as you got off

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Speaker 1: Tommy DeVito though.

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Speaker 4: No, no, he's look, he's getting progressive commercial commercial.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, I did not know that he's got an

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Speaker 1: insurance commercial now, so good for Tommy d Wow. All right,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, best wishes though to James Connor. Obviously changes

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Speaker 1: a lot of things in that Arizona offense, so going forward. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, Najee Harris left the game against the

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Speaker 1: Broncos with a non contact injury. I think everybody who

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Speaker 1: saw it immediately said that looks like an achilles.

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Speaker 2: That looks like a season ender.

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Speaker 1: And again another frustrating one because he was running the

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Speaker 1: Omari and Hampton to that point had kind of been struggling.

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Speaker 1: He picked it up in what was a really fun

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Speaker 1: game to watch. I'm so obviously, Lookwan Hampton is not

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Speaker 1: going to be available on the waiver wire, no in

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Speaker 1: any leagues worth their salt. The question now becomes with

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Speaker 1: no Nase Harris can you bump Omari and Hampton into

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Speaker 3: I would say like a low win RB one And

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Speaker 3: I say this because just looking at the Charges offense

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Speaker 3: right now, they're bringing in a new identity. You see.

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Speaker 3: The passing game is thriving, they're undefeated. That's where they're

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Speaker 3: benefiting from from Justin Herbert playing so well right now,

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Speaker 3: the run game has actually been kind of made like

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Speaker 3: bottom of the table. They're getting three and a half

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Speaker 3: right now. That's my biggest fears of like when they

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Speaker 3: go against some of these tough opponents, like they're not

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Speaker 3: going to be like the games that we saw yesterday,

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Speaker 3: like he was able to get loose. Now looking ahead

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Speaker 3: to this week against the Giants, yeah, he's going to

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Speaker 3: have that RB one ceiling again. We're gonna get a

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Speaker 3: taste to see if he can handle this fifteen to

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Speaker 3: twenty touches per game and they ramp up progressively. I

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Speaker 3: just think that Greg Roman, his comments are still just

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Speaker 3: floating in my head. Man saying it's going to be

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Speaker 3: a two man system, doesn't matter. It's going to be

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Speaker 3: a two man system. We want two running backs back.

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Speaker 3: They're running the ball. But then it's like you watch

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Speaker 3: a Marion Hampton do what he did yesterday, How can

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Speaker 3: you stop this train? This may help the running game

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Speaker 3: just feeding him the ball. So I got him as

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Speaker 3: a low win RB one for rest of the season,

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Speaker 3: but this week it's going to be wheels up for

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Speaker 3: him against the Giants.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely wheels up against the Giants.

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Speaker 1: He looked like he was getting more comfortable, more confident

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Speaker 1: as he was getting more touches, especially in that second half,

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Speaker 1: because early on he just looked sort of tentative, especially

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Speaker 1: when they asked him the rumbys way the tackles. He

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Speaker 1: you know, the Broncos have the speed on the edge

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Speaker 1: so that was kind of a problem.

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Speaker 3: It also helps with him getting sprinkled with targets. Man,

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Speaker 3: he had seven targets six catches. That's like Austin Ecker

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Speaker 3: No, we're still commining Bedell's man. We still want Commanee

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Speaker 4: First catch will always be fun. Yeah, it's like a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it looked like the vandalascence was happening, but apparently not. Uh.

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Speaker 4: George Pickens is an enigma and I'm done trying to

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Speaker 4: reason it's going His usage and how they use him

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Speaker 4: which is clearly valuable for fantasy, but it's high variance

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Speaker 3: This was freaking awesome.

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Speaker 4: It's good for the stack. You would think it wasn't

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Speaker 4: he's already been, which is a high upside but high

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Speaker 1: What I saw yesterday from George Pickens is sort of

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Speaker 2: Through three games, That's kind of what it's been.

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Speaker 1: To your point, Jake Ferguson looks like he, at least

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Speaker 3: That was my must draft this summer.

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Speaker 1: Folks saying you don't know, C Lamb's gonna get hurt, No,

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Speaker 2: We'll we'll certainly find out more, uh in the days

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Speaker 1: In Tampa, Mike Evans suffered a hamstring injury which forced

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Speaker 1: They were already dealing with the Mecca Abuka, who was

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Speaker 1: and play. Yeah, we know Jen McMillan's out. Know Chris Godwin.

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Speaker 1: They are saying that there's a very strong chance Chris

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Speaker 3: Listen, if I roster him and I had him on

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Speaker 3: to lose if Marvin Harrison or Brian Thomas Jr. Goes

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Speaker 3: For whatever I get out of him, it's the Eagles.

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Speaker 4: Whatever.

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Speaker 3: The Eagles defense, they are a joke, man, Like, don't

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Speaker 1: But anyway, back on subject, with Chris Godwin possibly playing

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Speaker 3: That means his rehab has gone great. He's ready to

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Speaker 3: Sterling Shepherd this week and waiver wire like, I'm not

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Speaker 3: on doing completely nothing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't spend fab or a waiver priority claim on

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Speaker 1: on Sterling Shepherd.

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Speaker 2: Shepherd's the guy that you know.

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Speaker 1: It's it's Sunday morning and I'm still trying to find

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Speaker 2: I mean I think in the short term.

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Speaker 3: Well, if you got a mecha, yeah, you're playing him.

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Speaker 3: He is the UI receiver one. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm just much more concerned with Godwin, I think

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Speaker 3: Bro teams are down bad. That are one and two

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Speaker 3: right now where I'm like, look, Terry mclauren, ain't cutting it.

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Speaker 1: Especially there's definitely a conversation that we had about some

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Speaker 1: just I mean, just flubbed what should have been a touchdown,

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Speaker 4: That throw was about ten yards underthrown as well, Like

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Speaker 4: if Kyler hits him in stride, that's an eighty yard touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Or bounce down. Also bounced off the eighteen on his chest.

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Speaker 4: It's also on him, but it's Kyler is a huge

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Speaker 2: I mean, I can get you a bier, not his

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Speaker 2: job to get him.

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Speaker 3: Drew Petting the offensive coordinator. That's it's all that.

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Speaker 4: I think Marvin was a little over hyped. I think

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Speaker 2: All things can be true, Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1: Since we're talking about quarterbacks, JJ McCarthy. We know went

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Speaker 2: The Vikings need him to be. There are reports he

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Speaker 1: They could hold him out until after the bye, which

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Speaker 2: I'm floy is is there a world?

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Speaker 1: Is there a strand of the multiverse where Carson Wentz

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Speaker 2: Then JJ McCarthy has.

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Speaker 4: Been There's a world for sure. I think the upside

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Speaker 4: now the floor is safer with Wentz. We we have

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Speaker 4: take a bit. It happens at all positions a right.

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Speaker 4: It's why like all week I was like breathe on

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Speaker 4: They're two games into their career, Like we've seen there

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Speaker 4: think I was shocked to see like t J. Hawkinson

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Speaker 4: did what he did and and I was like, yep,

439
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Speaker 4: it's when in garbage time when I'm facing him in

440
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Speaker 4: a couple of different leagues, But uh, I don't think.

441
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Speaker 4: I think again, it's possible, but we just yesterday didn't

442
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,120
Speaker 4: really teach us anything about this offense.

443
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Speaker 2: I mean, i'd agree with that it did teach us,

444
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Speaker 2: I guess, you know.

445
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Speaker 1: For why to take one thing, Jordan Mason looks like

446
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 1: he's ready for the RB.

447
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 2: One role there in Minnesota, so.

448
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Speaker 1: You know, shout outs were shout out to lakwand because

449
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Speaker 1: you were, you were definitely ahead of the curve on

450
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Speaker 1: that one for sure, because he looked he looked fantastic. Granted, yes,

451
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 1: the Bengals stink, but nonetheless Mason looked great. He looked great,

452
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Speaker 1: So not gonna take that away from him. On the

453
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Speaker 1: flip side, kind of a rough day, not just for

454
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Speaker 1: the Bengals offense, but for Jamar Chase specifically.

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Speaker 2: Have some questions about him.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break, come back with some of

457
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Speaker 1: the big questions that we have coming out of Week

458
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Speaker 1: three and how we feel about them going forward. Sticking

459
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Speaker 1: around for that more on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

460
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Speaker 2: Talking about some of our big questions from Week three.

461
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Speaker 1: We finished the last segment talking about the Vikings and

462
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Speaker 1: the Bengals and how Cincinnati was fully dismantled by that

463
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Speaker 1: Minnesota defense, and that the Viking offense was good against

464
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Speaker 1: a bad defensive team. One thing we did not talk about, though,

465
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Speaker 1: the Bengals offense, and that it just couldn't do anything.

466
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Speaker 1: Jake Browning nineteen of twenty seven hundred and forty yards,

467
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Speaker 1: one touchdown, two picks. Jamar Chase though six targets, just

468
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Speaker 1: man five catches on those six targets, fifty yards, no touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: Having seen this and knowing Lakwan that Browning is going

470
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Speaker 1: to be the quarterback for the foreseeable future, maybe for

471
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Speaker 1: the rest of the season, worry should we be about

472
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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, who a lot of people took at the one.

473
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Speaker 3: Strapping. It's gonna be a bad nightmare ride having Jamar

474
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Speaker 3: Chase and T Higgins and I said this last week

475
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Speaker 3: when we're talking about Jake Browning, interceptions is in his

476
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 3: utility bell It's like a power he pulls out out

477
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 3: of nowhere. It's a bad power, and it's like, dude,

478
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 3: you don't need to throw interceptions.

479
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Speaker 1: Going into this game. He already threw two interceptions the

480
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Speaker 1: week prior.

481
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Speaker 3: He has five interceptions in two weeks like this, is disgusting,

482
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Speaker 3: Like you have to look at this as look, they

483
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Speaker 3: can't run the ball, the defense is bad. He keeps

484
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 3: turning the ball over. That's less opportunities than scoring opportunities

485
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Speaker 3: for Jamar Chase Anti Higgins. So I look at this

486
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Speaker 3: as it sucks because it's only week four that we're

487
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Speaker 3: dealing with this. If this injury happened week ten or whatever,

488
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 3: it's like cool. I collected my ten weeks of racked

489
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Speaker 3: up points of Jamar Chase being the wide receiver one.

490
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Speaker 3: But right now we got to make some business decisions.

491
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Speaker 3: I feel like I can go out there and say

492
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Speaker 3: I can trade Jamar Chase right now and get a haul.

493
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Speaker 3: So that one believer thinks that they're gonna trade for

494
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Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins or Joe Burrow is gonna come back early

495
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 3: from this turf toe, let them have that painted in

496
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 3: their head. I want to get off this train right

497
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 3: now because if you look at the next three weeks,

498
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 3: you got Denver Lions in Green Bay. These are all

499
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Speaker 3: teams that are going to take the ball away. These

500
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Speaker 3: are tough defenses that are going to be bringing that pressure.

501
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 3: And I can't see Jake Browning making it to December

502
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 3: at this quarterback this year, and there's no way they

503
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 3: got to start working some guys out. They got to

504
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 3: do something because this is going to be a horrible offense.

505
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Speaker 1: Moving forward, as you were talking and talking about the

506
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Speaker 1: quarterback situation, I had an idea pop in my head.

507
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Speaker 2: What if they trade for Jamis?

508
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 4: That would be fun.

509
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: I mean, Jamis just throwing yolo balls to Jamar Chase.

510
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Speaker 3: That could work right, Sign him up.

511
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Speaker 2: I know the Giants way.

512
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Speaker 1: The Giants have said that they aren't interested that Jamis

513
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Speaker 1: is there, but it's like the whole conversation in New

514
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: York is it's been Russell Wilson or Jackson dart Right

515
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: and Jamis is basically just a cheerleader on the sideline.

516
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Speaker 1: Why not why not call up the Giants see what

517
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: what they'd be willing to take in order to part

518
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 1: with Jameis Winston.

519
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: You know you're not gonna win the division. Nobody's gonna

520
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 2: win the the AFC.

521
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Speaker 1: I take back what I said trading Jamar Chase, by

522
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Speaker 1: the way, I take that that count right now. We

523
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Speaker 1: get Winston, oh my god, And I say we as

524
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: a Jamar Chase like, I definitely want Winston in a building.

525
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Speaker 4: I do want to play Devil's advocate just a bit,

526
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 4: Like if yesterday was the worst, it was still five

527
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Speaker 4: for fifty, which is ten PPR points. Like we saw

528
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Speaker 4: him have a huge game last week. With Browning, I

529
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 4: think he's gonna be very up or down, which we

530
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 4: don't like. But I still do think there's gonna be

531
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 4: some big Jamar Chase.

532
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Speaker 3: Teams, Like Browning's had his highs in his starts in

533
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Speaker 3: twenty three, like he was able to get t Higgins

534
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Speaker 3: three touchdowns.

535
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Speaker 4: I'm much more worried about Higgins than Chase.

536
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 3: And yeah, but the thing is, it's like he could

537
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 3: beat up on bad defenses, like he doesn't have bad

538
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 3: defenses on the play for the next couple of weeks,

539
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 3: Like it's gonna be tough. So I'm benching Jamar Chase

540
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 3: if I have better options, obviously, do.

541
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Speaker 2: You Is that a thing is better than Chase? What

542
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 2: do you mean?

543
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 3: I think?

544
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 2: So?

545
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 3: I mean, if I'm gonna be buying into the high

546
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 3: of like an elk A manner right now, who's on

547
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 3: the ride, You're.

548
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 4: Gonna play him over.

549
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 3: Against Denver and Green Bay.

550
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll play Jamar Chase against Detroit but I'm not

551
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: playing him against Green Bay or something.

552
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 4: You say Denver. Denver has been had by wide receivers

553
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 4: this year. Like the Chargers wide receivers put up pretty

554
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 4: good numbers against them this week.

555
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

556
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 2: Man, that is the spiciest of the spicy.

557
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 3: That's Herbert throwing the ball. Like we're talking about Jake

558
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 3: browning and and and it's one of the things that

559
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 3: we keep thinking, he's there.

560
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones part of this.

561
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones, Indiana Jones. Put some respect on his name.

562
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 3: He is out here balling.

563
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: Come on, I will say what works, what could work

564
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: in Jamar's favor, And even t Higgins to a point

565
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: is just fall because they're going to throw the ball

566
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: a lot, and especially missing that game against the Lions,

567
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: like the Lions are going to run it up like

568
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: the Lions.

569
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 2: The Lions could.

570
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 1: Put half a hundred on this Bengals defense, which means

571
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: Jake Brown's gonna throw the ball forty five times that week.

572
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 4: That's what worries me about Higgins is like Chase, Like,

573
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 4: I mean, last week Chase had sixteen targets and this week,

574
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Speaker 4: I know five doesn't sound like much, but I believe

575
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 4: it was the it was a second No. Six. I'm

576
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 4: sorry led the team like Higgins.

577
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: That task disgusting for a one on one pick, like

578
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: I don't want the no.

579
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Speaker 4: It's not ideal, obviously, but but the subject that's changed.

580
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 4: We're not saying we're gonna get Jamar Chase one dot

581
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 4: one value anymore. But now I still think so much

582
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 4: talent there where I'm playing him over over my bench options,

583
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 4: Like there's not a world where I'm playing Elec Ioman.

584
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: I'm not playing I love like io man I'm not

585
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: playing too much. I'm all in three and this is

586
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: a bad look ahead for the next three weeks.

587
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Speaker 3: You best believe ile Io Manor will be an option

588
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 3: in my head.

589
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: That's waving a white flag you have. If you're all

590
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 2: in three, what do you have to lose?

591
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: Like you're gonna keep putting these star names in when

592
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: you're guys lobby.

593
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 4: Cam Ward hasn't thrown for two hundred and twenty yards

594
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 4: in a game and one touchdown.

595
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 3: Is his high and elk I Manor seems to be

596
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 3: his go to now, So I am ready to transition

597
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: from Calvin Ridley and my starter as a wide receiver too,

598
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 3: or what is el Io.

599
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,959
Speaker 4: Maner's best game so far this season.

600
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: It's like against the Rams, Yeah, that's better than what

601
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: we're about to get with Jamar.

602
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 4: We just got ten out of Chase and that's what's

603
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 4: making you panic.

604
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 2: Yes, these next three weeks.

605
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you're terrible.

606
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: What you're saying is that Jamar Chase's floor is right

607
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: scary off, but it's not too far off from Io

608
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: Manor's ceiling.

609
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: Like, what are we doing?

610
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 4: And in Week two, Jamar Chase was the wide receiver

611
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 4: two with Jake Browning coming in in the mid second quarter.

612
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: But I didn't just like, already, dude, I just remember

613
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: your pressure points.

614
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 2: Man, Wusa, I get it.

615
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: It's it's not great.

616
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 2: I get it.

617
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: We're not going down, We're not We're not going the

618
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: Iron Manor road yet.

619
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 3: Can we remove Iron Manor from the equation?

620
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: Any other bench right now that is putting up points

621
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: in your flex and we're thinking about them? Would you

622
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,719
Speaker 1: take would you take Chris Olive out of the satchel

623
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: of discontent and put him in a head.

624
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 3: That sounds crazy, that sounds crazy, but you're gonna start.

625
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 4: I'm just saying no. Roy Franklin, the Big Waiver Wire

626
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 4: names so far this year receiver I'm playing like I

627
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 4: wouldn't I wouldn't put Tray Tucker.

628
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 3: No, like I wouldn't put the literally busts or boom guys.

629
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 3: But if there's other serviceable options on my bench.

630
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 4: About like I'm going Chase over Wandell over Mooney over

631
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 4: over names of receivers that I have on my benches, Like.

632
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 3: It's it's just one of the things that we have

633
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 3: to circle back for. There's other flex options out there

634
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 3: that have been consistent on a three week basis to

635
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 3: give you safe floors. That's obviously one of they that I'm.

636
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 4: Ten points not a safe floor.

637
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 3: Bro Come on, man, from Jamar Chase, what is the

638
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 3: rest of your wide receiver roster?

639
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: Looking?

640
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 4: Here's the thing to your ten point absolute ten points

641
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 4: from Jamar Chase is disappointing. I'm not I have chased

642
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 4: in a number of leagues. I'm not so context you're.

643
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 3: Zero and three. You're gonna ride until the ship is

644
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: alway at the bottom where.

645
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 4: You is disappointing from Chase. But the names you're naming,

646
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 4: like twelve is a good game from.

647
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, dude, Like the situation is, the situation has

648
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: changed now from when you drafted him, so you have

649
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: to sort of adjust to that. But still the ceiling

650
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: for Jamar Chase is higher than you know, ninety receivers

651
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: in this league.

652
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: I didn't think we'd spend this long on this. I didn't.

653
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: I just didn't realize that this is.

654
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: A whole nother pod.

655
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 3: Save it for lunch, save it for the lunch, Let's

656
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 3: keep this moving.

657
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: That's why we're really gonna spend forty five minutes on

658
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: this whole thing. Floyal Ashton gent so far. You talk

659
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Speaker 1: about guys who've been disappointing. I had about making him

660
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Speaker 1: a first round pick, like I just wasn't gonna be

661
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Speaker 1: able to do it. I thought second round was gonna

662
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Speaker 1: be a little better. Even that has sort of underperformed.

663
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Speaker 1: Last week, Pete Carroll talked about how they wanted to

664
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Speaker 1: get him the ball more, get him more touches, more carries.

665
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Speaker 1: Didn't really happen this week against Washington. Maybe this is

666
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying this is crazy, But I didn't just

667
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: to say start like Io Manner over Jamar Chase, So

668
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Speaker 1: maybe this is crazy. Is Ashton Jerry go? Is Ashton genty?

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Speaker 1: Even an RB two going forward.

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Speaker 4: Yes. In fact, I think he is a good by

671
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Speaker 4: Low candidate. If you look at Ashton Genty and it

672
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Speaker 4: was a ESPN Beat reporter Darren mcfatten tweeted this out yesterday.

673
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 4: Fifty seven percent of his carries he's been hit at

674
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Speaker 4: or behind the line of scrimmage. The O line has

675
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Speaker 4: been atrocious, and I don't think it's going to get better.

676
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Speaker 4: But what I think is happening is Ashton Genty is

677
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 4: getting more comfortable in the NFL, and we're gonna start

678
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 4: seeing Boise State type plays from Ashton gent Yesterday, not

679
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 4: only did he have a career a career highest season

680
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 4: high and rushing yards, he hit his first two runs

681
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 4: of over fifteen plus yards. And watching him, just like

682
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 4: you guys were saying with Omarion Hampton, I think the game,

683
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 4: he's starting to adjust to it a little bit. It

684
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 4: slows down a little bit, stuff like that. So next

685
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Speaker 4: week he gets the Bears, who have allowed the most

686
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Speaker 4: rushing yards to running backs. They really allow a lot

687
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Speaker 4: of explosive runs. It's like almost six yards per carry

688
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 4: they're allowing. So peep behind the curtain. I have gent

689
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Speaker 4: as a start, I have Hampton. I think week four

690
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Speaker 4: is going to be the week. And I'll say it

691
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Speaker 4: here first that we look back at this season and

692
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Speaker 4: like that is when the rookie class arrived. I think

693
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 4: they're all, like most of the rookies that we were

694
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Speaker 4: excited about in fantasy are going to have big games

695
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Speaker 4: in Week four, and I think Genty is very much

696
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 4: so one of them and someone that if you could

697
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Speaker 4: buy low on right now, I think it's worth the shot.

698
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Speaker 2: I think there are some of the rookies like I think.

699
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Speaker 1: Obviously Amari and Hampton with no Nase Harris is sort

700
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Speaker 1: of ready to take off. I do think this is

701
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Speaker 1: a Travion Henderson week because everybody else is mister fumble

702
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: Thumb's in that backfield right now, you know, so, I

703
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: think he Judkins is mother one. But for Jens, you

704
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: mentioned the offensive line is still bad. That's not gonna

705
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: change all year long. I laughed, and you said, he

706
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Speaker 1: looks like he's getting more comfortable, Like you're like, he

707
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: gets hitting the backfield a ton. He looks like he's

708
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: get more comfortable, like he's getting comfortable getting hands off

709
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Speaker 1: the ball.

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Speaker 4: He's not awesome, but he's he's still breaking tackles at

711
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Speaker 4: such a high rate.

712
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Speaker 1: That does help the other The thing that worries me though,

713
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: is one the offensive line is bad too.

714
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Speaker 2: He is zero part.

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Speaker 1: Of the passing game that needs that they don't ideally

716
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Speaker 1: should change. They don't consider him at all. I think

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Speaker 1: he's got what. He's got six targets. He'd had no

718
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: targets yesterday. He has a grand total of three receiving yards.

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Speaker 2: That's got it.

720
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Speaker 1: That's got to get better, for sure. But he's another

721
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: one that you invested highly in him. I don't know

722
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,479
Speaker 1: that you can pull the plug right now unless somehow,

723
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Speaker 1: you you know, backed into another mid round running back

724
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Speaker 1: who is you know, if you know you ran into

725
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: Javonte Williams and you've got him. It's kind of hard

726
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: to get away from from Ashton Gentz. Are the Jags

727
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: receivers even startable at this point? They won yesterday.

728
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Speaker 4: That's the problem.

729
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 3: It's the mass that is being worn right now. Like

730
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Speaker 3: it's the mass where it's like happy in the front

731
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 3: and they're crying behind like that locker room is toxic. Man,

732
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 3: you cannot trust this team.

733
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Speaker 1: And honestly, the Imi Brown getting hurt is probably the

734
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: worst thing to happen for that wide receiver room because

735
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Speaker 1: he's the only guy that has the touchdown. He's the

736
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Speaker 1: only guy that has been hit reliable to have a

737
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Speaker 1: catch percentage over sixty five percent. So it's like guys

738
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: that are the reliable targets are now falling off. Now

739
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to deal with Parker Washington. I don't

740
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Speaker 1: want to get in this carousel of trying to figure

741
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Speaker 1: out which week it's going to be the week for

742
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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior. He does not look happy. It looks

743
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Speaker 1: like it's toxic in that locker room.

744
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Speaker 3: I am just looking at more of what's happening in

745
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Speaker 3: the locker room and the presentation we're getting on the field.

746
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Speaker 3: Trevor mid Lawrence is not going to elevate Brian Thomas

747
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: Junior to be back to that return of what Mac

748
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 3: Jones had him at that nineteen fantasy points per game.

749
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Speaker 3: We get the Mid.

750
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Speaker 2: Bowl this wild sentence, by the way, We.

751
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Speaker 3: Get the Mid Bowl this week where Mac Jones will

752
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 3: be like, Yo, I'm gonna show you how to do this, son,

753
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 3: Like I can go over there on that other side,

754
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 3: I put your jersey on to get him activated. Like

755
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 3: there should be some type of swap here because if

756
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Speaker 3: mac Jones outperforms Trevor mid laarins this week, I am

757
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 3: breaking the board in half. He is not even on

758
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 3: the scaling. So that is what it's gonna be next week.

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Speaker 1: I will I will say that you might not have

760
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Speaker 1: the opportunity because it looks like brock Perty is trending

761
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: back to play, so he may be back.

762
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: Next week against the Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: Plus, Uh, mac Jones actually tweaked.

764
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Speaker 2: His knee during that game. Late in that game, yet

765
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Speaker 2: he had his jersey rip.

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Speaker 3: My man was going to war.

767
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: He was a show watching him try to like, you know,

768
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: hand the ball off to McCaffrey. Had a couple of

769
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: those stretch plays. Was painful, like he's like hobbling and

770
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Speaker 1: just like basically diving.

771
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: To get the ball.

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Speaker 4: Please hit me how to here?

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Speaker 1: It was rough yesterday, So I don't I don't know

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Speaker 1: that we're gonna see the mac Jones revenge game.

775
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Speaker 2: I hope we do, though, but we'll see. We'll see

776
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Speaker 2: how that goes.

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Speaker 1: Floy, you mentioned the Bears and they had a great

778
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Speaker 1: day offensively against a bad Cowboys defense. Uh. Dj Moore

779
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: had a late touchdown which made his day look serviceable.

780
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Speaker 1: But if you watch that game, he really was nowhere

781
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: to be found. They gave actually a couple of handoffs,

782
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: just I think to try to get the ball in

783
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Speaker 1: his hand at some point.

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Speaker 2: How worried argue about DJ Moore.

785
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Speaker 4: At this point as worried as you could possibly be.

786
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Speaker 4: And I and I unfortunately have DJ Moore on quite

787
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Speaker 4: a few teams because all summer he was falling and

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Speaker 4: I just kept being like, well, I'll take him at

789
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 4: this cost. And last week I spent far too much

790
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 4: time trying to trade him and I didn't have a

791
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 4: ton of success. I'm going to try again this week

792
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 4: because I don't I think if you look at the

793
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 4: box or you're gonna see, oh yeah, he caught a touchdown.

794
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 4: He was the second targeted player on that team. But

795
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 4: like you said, Marcus, if you watch the game, the

796
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 4: usage is extremely concerning. He had five targets. I think

797
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 4: two of them came out of the backfield, and like

798
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 4: you said, he's getting carries there in the red zone. Downfield,

799
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 4: everything is Roman doonsday like he is the one there

800
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 4: and that's fine. You could sustain too, like we've seen

801
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 4: Ben Johnson sustain two wide receivers before the issue is

802
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 4: all of the fun, creative stuff that Ben Johnson and

803
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 4: the Bears are doing is going to Luther Burden, not

804
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Speaker 4: DJ Moore. So like, it is a concerning thing for sure,

805
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 4: And I think this week is a great time to

806
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 4: try to sell DJ Moore because of that touchdown. Caleb's

807
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 4: coming off his best game as a pro, and all

808
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 4: of this came in. What is the best matchup for

809
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 4: wide receivers? Because that Cowboys defense, We're gonna pick on

810
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 4: it all year. So like, if this is what you're

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Speaker 4: doing against the Cowboys, how's it gonna look when you

812
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 4: face actual tough defenses.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say this, The schedule isn't terrible for the

814
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Speaker 1: Bears going forward. I mean they're in Vegas next week

815
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: to take on the Raiders. That's not super difficult. They're

816
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: at Washington, which is, you know, slightly more difficult. They

817
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: got the Saints right after that. Again, another really good matchup.

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Speaker 4: Is that Washington game an Island game? Please?

819
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 2: It is a Monday night game?

820
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 4: Yes? Yeah, that so much fun.

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Speaker 2: So Jayden Dangles is back then, so we get Caleb

822
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 2: the Jayden.

823
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 4: Partner two last year.

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Speaker 1: So so yeah, that's right, Hail Mary running back. So

825
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: We'll get that in an Island game in Week six

826
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: for sure, so we'll see. But yeah, DJ Moore has

827
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Speaker 1: just been been m i a the first weeks of

828
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Speaker 1: the season for the Bears. Let's get to our rookie

829
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 1: report checking in on some of the first year guys,

830
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: and the first one on those Quinn Shawn Jenkins. We

831
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: were told he was going to be the starter and

832
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: took advantage of it in the surprise win over the

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. Ninety four rushing yards or rushing touchdown,

834
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Speaker 1: one catch for.

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Speaker 2: One yard whatever.

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Speaker 1: I guess it counts for one point one points in

837
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Speaker 1: your PPR formats for you.

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Speaker 2: Is he an RB two going forward?

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Speaker 4: Yes? Yeah, I mean one. He's made all like Dylan

840
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 4: Samson is droppable. Jerome Ford. Yeah, he's getting the passing

841
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 4: downs right now, but he's not like it's all Quid

842
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 4: Shawn Judkins. And my hope is that he continues to

843
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 4: take over more of the passing game because that is

844
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 4: where you miss being there all summer. Like it's a

845
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 4: little bit easier for a running back because it's like

846
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 4: run this way, run that way, stuff like that, but

847
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 4: in the passing game, you need to know where to

848
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 4: be and where to block and stuff like that. So

849
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 4: my hope is as the year goes on that value grows.

850
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 4: But what I think makes this especially valuable is who

851
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 4: he did it against. The Green Bay Packers shut down

852
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 4: the Detroit Lions running game, and then the next week

853
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 4: they shut down the Commander's rushing attack two of the

854
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 4: what top four five rushing attacks in football last season,

855
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 4: So like, yeah, it is very impressive. He gets the

856
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 4: lines next week. I know they're a tough matchup on paper.

857
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 4: I have him as a start this week. I don't care.

858
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think he was the biggest winner value

859
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 4: wise from week three.

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Speaker 2: I was very surprised.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think that it would be Dylan Samson who

862
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: just kind of got punted me. Maybe yeah, maybe we're

863
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: just underestimating Jerome Ford. But right now, which here's the thing.

864
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Speaker 1: In the end, it's a two man backfield. Dylan Sampson's

865
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: not part of it. So again, two man backfield, we

866
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: can sort of figure it out. But it does look

867
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Speaker 1: like Judkins is the RB one there for sure.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of RB.

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Speaker 1: Ones, Cam Scataboom, you know this is a scatabooly podcast.

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Speaker 1: Scoata Boom is kind of what we saw last night

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Speaker 1: against the Chiefs. Ten carries for sixty yards and a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Eight targets, that was a team high for six catches

873
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Speaker 1: and sixty one yards. There we go, get the Skataboo

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Speaker 1: T shirt out Now for Floria. I was gonna, I

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00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: mean the question I had written in here, LaQuan. I

876
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: think you and you and you and I and Floyo

877
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: talked about this before the show. I'm gonna ask you,

878
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: can he become the giants new RB one? You think

879
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: that's already done? Oh yeah, it was over when he

880
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: yoked up Russell Wilson on the sideline like he was

881
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: a child, Like, yeah, he got that or he got

882
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: that energy like the locker room is behind him.

883
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 3: So that was already sealed up last week.

884
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: Now he goes and scores a touchdown, does like a

885
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: Tyreek hill backflip and does a little shuffle dance.

886
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 3: I don't know what he was doing. Man, He is

887
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 3: filling himself right now. So he is the RB one

888
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 3: for the Giants. But my issue is for fantasy wise,

889
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 3: I don't know if he can push him up that

890
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 3: high as a RB one stamp, Like he's a guy

891
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 3: that I can fit into my flex and feel comfortable

892
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 3: about knowing that, hey, this is still a very bad

893
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 3: Giants O line, bad team at that overall, So I

894
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 3: do think that we're gonna have to gauge his scoring

895
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 3: opportunities because, look, I understand that he is able to

896
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 3: break the tackles. My man has over one hundred yards

897
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 3: and eighty eight of those yards are after contact, so

898
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 3: he's able to work in extreme conditions. But on a

899
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 3: week to week basis, I don't know if he's gonna

900
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 3: see that same touchdown opportunity. You're hoping that they keep

901
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 3: sprinkling this guy with targets and he just gets upfield.

902
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: But he is like a flex option for me at

903
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 3: best right now until I see further.

904
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: Otherwise, the one thing I would sort of worry about,

905
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: not worry, but you keep an eye on. The eight

906
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: targets was great, but I also feel the kwand like

907
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: that was because the Chiefs made it a point. We

908
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: are going to take away Malik Neighbors. We are not

909
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: letting you get the bottom Elaite Neighbors, and even Wandale Robinson,

910
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: We're gonna make it really hard for you to get

911
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: the battle Wandale Robinson. So it just seemed like some

912
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: of those eight targets, maybe most of those eight targets

913
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: were just a function of Russell Wilson just having to

914
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: get the ball to somebody.

915
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 3: That's exactly what it was.

916
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 4: I hate when teams do what the Giants did last night,

917
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 4: Like the Laek neighbors is a top four wide receiver

918
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 4: walking the planet, and you're just not gonna give him

919
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 4: any chances because the defense is trying to take him. Okay,

920
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 4: you're willingly giving the defense what they are game planning

921
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 4: to do. Like it makes absolutely no sense to me.

922
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 2: I just think Brian David would have something creator like

923
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 2: just just Russell.

924
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 4: He was not like Russ needs to go. He's just

925
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 4: literally just move lobbing up moonballs. He's gonna get his

926
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 4: guys killed. They're not even in the vicinity anymore. Like

927
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 4: it's over, it's Jackson Dart time.

928
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: In my opinion, the way they use Jackson Dart is

929
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: so weird because like they brought him in one time,

930
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: they're like, okay, then but I don't know it's a

931
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: designed run or just a scramble, but he like you know,

932
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: he goes, he runs, and then they bring Russ back

933
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: in then they bring Dart back in and they have

934
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: him run the the read option where he hands it

935
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: off a couple of times. Then they bring Russ back in,

936
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: he runs the read option and then he keeps it

937
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: and runs. I'm like, what what is going on here?

938
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 2: Like, I have no idea what game plans.

939
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 4: And it also it makes it super predictable because Dart

940
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 4: has yet to throw a pass, so every time he

941
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 4: comes in, you know, it's a run play.

942
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: So far, absolutely it is, so I don't know, But Skataboo,

943
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 1: it was nice to see him sort of explode yesterday.

944
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 2: We'll see how this goes.

945
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: Also, by the way, Tyrone Tracy dealing with a shoulder injury,

946
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: so monitor that exactly obviously have an impact on Skataboo's

947
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: snaps and touches in the near future.

948
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: Over to Denver RJ.

949
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: Harvey two carries two yards, three targets, three catches for

950
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: fourteen yards. Florio in the words of Charlie Kelly, what

951
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: do now?

952
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 4: What do now? I don't think you could cut him.

953
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 4: I'm not cutting him where I have him, but there

954
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 4: is zero percent chance you could ever start him right, Like,

955
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 4: I think the big lesson here is never draft a

956
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 4: rookie on his Sean Payton team, because we have been

957
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 4: chasing these young players for years here. But I still

958
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 4: think one of two things happens down the road. Either RJ.

959
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,720
Speaker 4: Harvey because he's looked good when he's been giving opportunity,

960
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 4: and either that leads to more opportunity, or JK. Dobbins

961
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 4: unfortunately miss his time and that allows r J. Harvey

962
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 4: to get a chance and kind of run with the job.

963
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 4: I think the up like anyone you cut him for,

964
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 4: he becomes the running back on the waiver wire now

965
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 4: with the most upside. So I want that on my team.

966
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 4: But unfortunately, until we see him get usage, you just

967
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 4: simply cannot start him.

968
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: I wish I had seen this story last week when

969
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 1: when it hit Sean Payton vows steady workload for Broncos

970
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: running back r J.

971
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: Harvey.

972
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 4: He's the new Altric Estimate.

973
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: I say, if I had seen that, I probably would

974
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: have everybody just to sit that load.

975
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 4: He's as bad as aldric estimate. But we're getting bro

976
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 4: He's gonna be hyped up each week like Aldric Estimate was,

977
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 4: and then it's just never gonna actually come to fruition.

978
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 4: This is a game where JK. Dobbins had like negative

979
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 4: four yards do most of the first half. Yeah, but

980
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 4: he did kind of get get loose in the second half.

981
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 4: He did, he got loose in the second half and

982
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 4: it made it interesting. Had a really nice touchdown run

983
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 4: ended actually eighty three ushing yards in the ball game too,

984
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 4: is for JK.

985
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 2: Dobbins. So he is for sure the RB one.

986
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: There everybody else kind of fighting for scraps in that backfield.

987
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: One last one Luthor Burden.

988
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: Three targets, three catches, one hundred one yards and a touchdown.

989
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: At first, look what I was gonna, you know, ask

990
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: like is he worth you know, a flex spot? But

991
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: then I look at you, he ran eight routes. Like

992
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: the targets, three catches were good. Eight routes. Obviously you

993
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: can't you know, you can't build on that. But I

994
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: will ask you, like, in deeper leagues, is it worth

995
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: picking up and adding Luthor Burden.

996
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 3: I think in deeper leagues you can. In like the

997
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 3: twelve man leagues, I'm kind of like, just add him

998
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 3: to the Buster Boom wide receivers avengers, like adding to

999
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 3: the Troy Franklins to Marvin Mems, Like you're never gonna

1000
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 3: be able to comfortably place him in your lineup because

1001
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 3: it's like eight routes, Like, my dude, Like I thought

1002
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 3: you ran more when you look at the box score,

1003
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 3: but no, Like these are the games that I think

1004
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson's gonna have fun with when he can really

1005
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 3: beat on the defense. Say, Cowboys secondary is toast like

1006
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 3: they're safety God, just big plays all day, free points.

1007
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 3: But looking at consistency with him, I can't trust him

1008
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 3: to add him to where I have to drop somebody

1009
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 3: who's actually playing way more snaps and running more routes.

1010
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 3: So it's one of those things like, hey, deeper leagues

1011
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 3: for sure, because it's gonna be one of those weeks

1012
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 3: he's gonna pop off because Ben Johnson's having fun.

1013
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 4: You know who I compare him to. He's a he

1014
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 4: is Ben Johnson current Ben Johnson's old teams, Isaac Tesla,

1015
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 4: Like they're both good. We want them to get the

1016
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 4: ball more, but until they do, it's hard to use.

1017
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're just not they're not playing enough snaps

1018
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: or getting enough looks consistently. Like, hey man, those Isaac

1019
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: Tesla one handed catches are great. You want you don't

1020
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: get any extra points for a one handed catch, but

1021
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: also you should not consistent for you to really count

1022
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: on it.

1023
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: So we're cool.

1024
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: See points, Cool points, man, I should I get cool

1025
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: points in fantasy Guys who are not getting cool points.

1026
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: They're coming up in the next segment.

1027
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: Guys that we are probably done with at least for

1028
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: the foreseeable future until they show us something. We'll get

1029
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,959
Speaker 1: you that plus some waiver wire picks coming up next

1030
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. So last week on

1031
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: the show, we talked about last chance guys, and I

1032
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: was calling him like, you know, biggie, guys, give me

1033
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: one more chance, give me, give me one more chance.

1034
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 1: And now these are guys that, Okay, it's been three weeks,

1035
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: we have seen nothing. Not necessarily ready to drop them.

1036
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: Maybe in some cases, but generally not. But at least

1037
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 1: these guys are going to the bench. So Lakwan, who

1038
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: is on your bench until further notice?

1039
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,959
Speaker 3: Chase Brown Man, things aren't looking good with that old line.

1040
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 3: I mean, he has two point zero yards per carry,

1041
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 3: which is the worst among all running backs right now,

1042
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 3: negative fifty three yards charge before contact. That old line

1043
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 3: is not helping him. It is disgusting at this point

1044
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 3: where he has to hit the bench and like quietly,

1045
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 3: like low key, I'm starting to look at j Brooks

1046
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 3: all my watch lists, like when do I hit that button?

1047
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 3: Because eventually he's going to start getting opportunities because Chase

1048
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 3: Brown just has not looked good running the ball like

1049
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 3: at all. So it's like, what do they do with

1050
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 3: this run game?

1051
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, except if you can't trust Chase Brown behind that

1052
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: offensive line, can you really trust a less talented back

1053
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: behind that offensive line?

1054
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 3: I mean, you have to try something. He needs to

1055
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 3: be involved more. I mean some my J. P. Ryan

1056
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 3: is there and he's not doing much damage either, So

1057
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 3: it's like, you guys have to do something to at

1058
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 3: least try to help this offense with Jake Brown is

1059
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 3: struggling with their turnovers, and there needs to be a

1060
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 3: type of balance between the run game and the passing

1061
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 3: game obviously.

1062
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it is bad though, Like Chase Brown

1063
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: was terrible yesterday the Bengals.

1064
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 4: Unfortunately.

1065
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bengals.

1066
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: Offense in general was terrible, but Chase Brown especially.

1067
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 4: They gave him five targets yesterday. Maybe that's something.

1068
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 2: Tim Cherry's for three yards that is brutal.

1069
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I know the quan said it, but

1070
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 4: he his yards contact before yards before in the NFL.

1071
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's bad.

1072
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: You're staying in Cincinnati though.

1073
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 2: Florio. For the guy that you are kind of fed up.

1074
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 4: With, yeah, T Higgins. I know we had a long

1075
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 4: argument on Jamar Chase earlier and I said I would

1076
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 4: still be starting him. I really didn't have a whole

1077
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 4: bunch of T Higgins on my teams this season, and

1078
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 4: if I did, I would be considering sitting him because

1079
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 4: even including the game that Joe Burrow played, T Higgins

1080
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 4: on the year has seven catches for one hundred and

1081
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 4: four yards in one touchdown. The usage hasn't been there.

1082
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 4: And with Jake Browning like he clearly is going Jamar

1083
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 4: Chase's way way more than he is going T Higgins ways.

1084
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 4: So I think a quarterback like Browning and volume is

1085
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 4: enough to sustain the one. The number two I have

1086
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 4: big questions about, especially considering like Lakwamas saying their upcoming schedules.

1087
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think T Higgins right now, if I

1088
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 4: have him, I'm hitting the panic button hard.

1089
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: The guy that I'm very much hitting the panic button

1090
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: on right now is Travis Hunter. Some of it is

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00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: the quarterback for sure. Obviously we've seen team min He's

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00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: t low so he's Trevor. He's like Trevor low Rince

1093
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: at this point low Rence right now. That has something

1094
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: to do with it the fact that neither he nor

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00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas he being Travis Hunter or Brian Thomas Junior,

1096
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: can get any quality targets consistently. The passing game is

1097
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,439
Speaker 1: an absolute mess in Jacksonville. The other part of it

1098
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: is Travis Hunter's defensive snaps have very quite not even quietly,

1099
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: they have jumped off.

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00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 3: Last two weeks.

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00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: Over the last two weeks. Week one, he played six

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00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: snaps on defense. Week two that numbers up to thirty nine.

1103
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: Yesterday was up to forty one. In fact, this week

1104
00:50:56,160 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: he played more defensive snaps than offensive snaps. All that

1105
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: talk from Liam Cohen about how, oh no, he's a

1106
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: wide receiver, we want him to play all these snaps

1107
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: on offense. We want to play eighty percent of the

1108
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: snaps on offense. Yesterday he played fifty three percent of

1109
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: the offensive snaps. He played nearly seventy percent of the

1110
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: defensive snaps.

1111
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 2: Suddenly, things are changing in.

1112
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: Jacksonville with how they want to use Travis Hunter throwing

1113
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: the fact that he's just not getting opportunities in the

1114
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: passing game. Yesterday two targets caught one for twenty one yards.

1115
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: That was it. They the Jaguars are sort of pivoting

1116
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: on the fly with how they want to use him,

1117
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: and that means that we as fantasy managers have to

1118
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: pivot along with them. And right now the pivot is

1119
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: to put Travis Hunter on the bench because the Jaguars

1120
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: offense is bad and it looks like the usage for

1121
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: the former Heisman Trophy winner. I guess the Heisman Trophy winner, right,

1122
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: you can't be a former Heisman trow It's like being

1123
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,919
Speaker 1: you know, it's like you know, being president, You're.

1124
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 4: Always you know, he is still defending one too, he

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00:51:58,880 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 4: is true.

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00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: They have no announcidus with trophies since the last time

1127
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: he won it. Either way, the point of this is

1128
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: he's not helping your fantasy team and you can't keep

1129
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 1: throwing him in your lineup every single week.

1130
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 3: So didn't draft him. Situational player sees the thing.

1131
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 2: Like we weren't.

1132
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: He wasn't supposed to be a situational player. He's not

1133
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: a situational player. He's a player with a bad offense, right, I.

1134
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 4: Think we're building him to the point where we're going

1135
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 4: to see him full time on both sides, because like

1136
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 4: it was all offense then it became a little bit

1137
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 4: of bolt. Now it's a little bit. I think they're

1138
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,959
Speaker 4: training him to get to the point where like he's

1139
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 4: like an eighty percent snap player on both sides. But

1140
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 4: it's not even that to me. It's the quarterback play

1141
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 4: like it's it's awful, bad.

1142
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 2: Bad, that's it.

1143
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: Which seems like a perfect way to segue though into

1144
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: the waiver wire, because even if you're not dropping these guys,

1145
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: you are still looking for help in some form or

1146
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: fashion on your fantasy roster. So Florida that put together

1147
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: this who you got for folks to keep an eye

1148
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: on on for.

1149
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 2: The waiver wire this week.

1150
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 4: It's not a huge waiver week, but at quarterback, I

1151
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 4: think Stafford and Sam Darnold are they're they're showing a

1152
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 4: safe enough floor where they could be rostered as QB

1153
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 4: two's especially Donald looking more and more comfortable. It wasn't

1154
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 4: against the Saints, but for what it's worth, Trey Benson

1155
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 4: is the biggest ad of the week. If he is

1156
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 4: out there. Base Shall Twoton got the goal on work

1157
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 4: what he marks basically split snaps with Nick Chubb down

1158
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 4: the middle. Jeremy McNichols, I know, didn't play a ton

1159
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 4: of snaps, but he looks like the most explosive runner

1160
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 4: in that backfield. Recal Daddo played a lot more this

1161
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 4: week with Chuba Hubbard there, and then so did Ali Gordon,

1162
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 4: and he was getting the goal line looks for the

1163
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 4: Dolphins at wide receiver Darnell Mooney, A lot of people

1164
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 4: kind of cut bait with him after his bad week too,

1165
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 4: but I think eleven targets yesterday team high elic Iomanner

1166
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 4: LaQuan is saying pick him up a week over Jamar Chase.

1167
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 2: I ain't say it like that.

1168
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,479
Speaker 3: I'm just saying I would think of yeah, they're gonna

1169
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 3: kill me for that.

1170
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 4: Christian Kirk, Look, he didn't have a huge game, but

1171
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 4: he's back and healthy and that's what we care about.

1172
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 4: Luther Burden just an upside play for later on. Trey Tucker,

1173
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 4: I don't really want him, but I felt like I

1174
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,720
Speaker 4: had to add him to the list. And then Alec Pierce,

1175
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 4: Parker Washington led the team in targets and Calvin Austin

1176
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 4: was the number two target for the Steelers. And then

1177
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 4: at tight end everyone dropped Hunter Henry after he had

1178
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 4: a bad week too, and he reminded you why you

1179
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 4: don't do that. He is my biggest pick up at

1180
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 4: tight end, but Brenton Strange getting a lot of volume,

1181
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 4: and then Chig a Conquo saw some good volume and

1182
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 4: has a I believe the Titans have a favorable schedule

1183
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 4: coming up.

1184
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hunter Henry, I think weeks two and three are

1185
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: just sort of a reminder of who Hunter Henry is. Right, Like,

1186
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna have those weeks where it's bad and didn't

1187
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: get a lot of look, than gona have those weeks

1188
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: where you know he ends up in the.

1189
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 2: End zone once or twice.

1190
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: So like that's just part of the Hunter Henry I experience.

1191
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 4: I think he might be becoming Drake May's go to guy.

1192
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 2: Which I mean it's good for under Henry.

1193
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: It also says bad things once again about the Patriots

1194
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: wide receiver room. They just cannot get that right for.

1195
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 3: Sure being used right at all. That's a red flag.

1196
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: I mean maybe also is there the possibility that maybe

1197
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs is just on the decline to like, that's

1198
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: in the that's in the realm of possibility, take care of.

1199
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 4: His post playing life.

1200
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 1: So yeah, by the way, you mentioned Ali Gordon and

1201
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 1: the opportunities he got. Because I missed the start of

1202
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: the game on Thursday night, I texted you guys, like

1203
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: I got home and I'm seeing all this Ali Gordon

1204
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 1: on the field. I was like, did something that did

1205
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: Devaney shan't get hurt because like, I just got home,

1206
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: Did I missed something? And You're like, no, they're just

1207
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: using Ali Gordon right now. I'm like, oh, okay, So maybe.

1208
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 4: I don't love it, but for Gordon it's good.

1209
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: Maybe Mike mcgang was trying to do something, switch it up,

1210
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: try to you know, save his job prospects.

1211
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 3: Both of them could be Fantasy relevant.

1212
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, essentially, sure, sure, if you're not giving

1213
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 4: Goline touches to agent, and that hurts.

1214
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 1: A lot, a little bit harder, but he still gets

1215
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: all those targets.

1216
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: That's the thing that will keep him afloated.

1217
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 4: He is.

1218
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: He is sort of game script proof because he's going

1219
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: to get a ton of targets. I saw the meme.

1220
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: I think I said, you guys, the meme right, the

1221
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: is at or behind the line of scriptage somewhere.

1222
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 2: Over here somewhere right, he's.

1223
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 1: Down there, he's he's standing next to me somewhere.

1224
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 2: I just talk to him and let him do it.

1225
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 4: If we're talking about running backs, by the way, I mean,

1226
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,720
Speaker 4: I gotta call out Mike. I've been an Isaiah Pacheco's supporter,

1227
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 4: but what the hell were you doing on those routes

1228
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 4: last night? Like he was running the wrong way, he

1229
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 4: was running backwards. He at one point could have kept

1230
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 4: the play going, but instead decided to spike it, Like Ike,

1231
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 4: I don't know what was going on there.

1232
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: That was a weird play, by the way, in general,

1233
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: just because it was a lateral.

1234
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 2: He could have picked it up and run with it.

1235
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: He could have even tried to throw it downfield, but

1236
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: he just spiked it into the ground. And then the

1237
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: Giants decided to challenge it, which is like, well, what

1238
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: good was that going because you weren't going to get

1239
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:11,439
Speaker 1: the ball?

1240
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 4: Like what was that the other one where if Mahomes

1241
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 4: doesn't rip the ball away the Giants might win that game?

1242
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 4: Who knows?

1243
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah that was huge.

1244
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 2: Chiefs are broken right now.

1245
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: I know there are thirty one other teams that don't

1246
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: feel even slightly bad about it. Thirty one other fan

1247
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: bases don't even feel remotely bad about it. But the

1248
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: Chiefs are broken. Right now, We'll see.

1249
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 4: The Ravens, and then after that they have like the

1250
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 4: Lions commanders bills on the schedule.

1251
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah that's rough, Yeah that's rough.

1252
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: Maybe it looks better when Rahi Rice's back, when Xavier

1253
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: Worthy is back, maybe it looks a little bit better.

1254
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 2: But even Mahomes looks broken out.

1255
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: In the Year of Our Football Lord twenty twenty five,

1256
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: it's Taekwon Thornton carving up the Giants, making ridiculous highlight

1257
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 1: reel catches.

1258
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 3: I put a claim last night. I put a claim

1259
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 3: on them. I need it.

1260
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 4: I think it goes away when Worthy comes back. But

1261
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 4: my favorite thing in the last two weeks has been

1262
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 4: Taekwon Thornton drops a deep ball and Mahomes like, no, no, no, no, no,

1263
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 4: we are getting it back, and the.

1264
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Taekwon Thornton or Jamar Chase, here we.

1265
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 3: Go, Yeah, yeah, we're I think, get out of here.

1266
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 3: You're just gonna amp the chat. They're gonna kill me

1267
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 3: for that.

1268
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I am looking at other like options

1269
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: right that are been producing these last three weeks over

1270
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: the bigger names like bro Come on, I'm going to

1271
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: look that way at least once, Like his schedule upcoming

1272
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: is terrible and Jake Browning has been terrible. But I'll

1273
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: leave it at that, all right. I'm sure we will

1274
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: have this conversation again at.

1275
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 3: Something we will and look, I am man are probably

1276
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 3: gonna have more fancy points than to Jamar Chase next week,

1277
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 3: but we'll save that next three weeks.

1278
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 4: If I outscores him, we have to think of something

1279
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 4: we have to put by Wednesday show. We have to

1280
00:58:58,600 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 4: have something on the line.

1281
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: Right well, that just something, just something for us to

1282
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: keep it keep track of over the next three weeks.

1283
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: The race between l I O. Manor and Jamar Chase, Dude,

1284
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 1: I Maner wins. This is gonna be insufferable. It's gonna

1285
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: be the worst. That's gonna be the worst, and he

1286
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: would deserve to be.

1287
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 4: I would give him all.

1288
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: That's true, you would. You would have earned it at

1289
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: that point. All right, good spot for us to call

1290
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: it a day right now. That'll do it for this

1291
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: edition of the NFL Fantasy Football podcast.

1292
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 2: They happy, safe and healthy, do good and live well.

1293
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 2: Enjoy the week, everybody.

1294
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: We will talk to you again on Wednesday.