Speaker 1: Ravvy.
Speaker 2: Good to see again, buddy.
Speaker 3: You two buddy you ready, how you feeling good?
Speaker 2: Feeling great? Man, We're off to a great start. I'm
Speaker 2: excited to talk to coach Slosnagel to night and fired
Speaker 2: up to go through a lot of stuff, a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff on his plate right now too, right, yeah.
Speaker 3: So, Coach Losgel, I mean this time of the year,
Speaker 3: as you know justin this is all about this is
Speaker 3: all about college baseball. I mean, that's kind of the
Speaker 3: lane we're in here. We're about to start regionals. The
Speaker 3: conference tournaments are over, the regular season is over, and
Speaker 3: now we're going to get into the regionals. You got
Speaker 3: sixteen different regions, each with four teams. This is our
Speaker 3: bracket of sixty four. You got the top ranked team
Speaker 3: that's been the top ranked team all year long, and UCLA,
Speaker 3: and then you got the others that follow You have
Speaker 3: Georgia who I just saw at who for Alabama. It
Speaker 3: was an amazing experience and a real credit to the
Speaker 3: way that they were able to play. You've got coach
Speaker 3: los Nagels Longhorns that are amongst the favorites, not the favorite,
Speaker 3: to get to Omah this year and play in the
Speaker 3: College World Series. So it's a really exciting time. He's
Speaker 3: very familiar with getting to Omaha. He did a whole
Speaker 3: bunch with TCU. I think it's seven times that he's
Speaker 3: been to Omaha. Of course was there last year with
Speaker 3: Texas A and M. But for baseball fans, there's two
Speaker 3: things going on right now, the Women's College World Series
Speaker 3: and again fundamentally, it's like watching the women's college basketball teams.
Speaker 3: You can learn a ton regardless if you're playing baseball
Speaker 3: or softball, from the way that the women play softball
Speaker 3: the way that the women play basketball. So there's two
Speaker 3: really good things that are happening right now. It's the
Speaker 3: Women's College World Series and of course the Regionals, then
Speaker 3: the Super Regionals and then the men's College World Series.
Speaker 3: But I think it's great, and you know, I understand
Speaker 3: that it's an opportunity for us to coach to talk
Speaker 3: to coach loss and it's an opportunity for our teammates
Speaker 3: to get the questions in as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so if you're if you're watching, feel free to
Speaker 2: throw questions in the chat tonight on YouTube. You may
Speaker 2: need to, or you do need to sign up free
Speaker 2: account if you don't have one. Uh, it's very quick.
Speaker 2: Just take five, five ten seconds to do that. Ask
Speaker 2: your questions and you get a shot to ask anything
Speaker 2: you want. And that's that's what's amazing about you know,
Speaker 2: the experience up to to this point, and the unique
Speaker 2: part of UH from the dugout right rabbi and and
Speaker 2: a lot to talk about with the regionals. Man, this
Speaker 2: is UH, this is this is one of my favorite
Speaker 2: weeks of the year. Man, it's it's such a fun week.
Speaker 2: If you have never experienced a regional, it's one of
Speaker 2: the it's one of the best experiences as a sports fan,
Speaker 2: let alone a baseball fan that you can It's it's intense.
Speaker 2: Every game matters, every pitch seems to matter. The the
Speaker 2: intensity and and as you kind of start talking to coaches,
Speaker 2: which is which is something I do all the time. Uh,
Speaker 2: it is so hard to get out of a regional
Speaker 2: because you have to be the best of four and
Speaker 2: when you get to super that's really hard to which
Speaker 2: I'm excited to talk to coach tonight about.
Speaker 1: But it's really hard as well.
Speaker 2: But you just have to beat one team twice and
Speaker 2: so sometimes getting through that regional can be extremely difficult
Speaker 2: or you know, you get a team that's been seated
Speaker 2: a little lower than you know, you maybe think they
Speaker 2: should have, and they're coming in with forty three wins
Speaker 2: and as a as a four seat, you know, and
Speaker 2: so it's just not easy. And at this point, everybody's
Speaker 2: got a great arm. Usually there's there's good pens involved
Speaker 2: or great offenses. So it's just a fun time of year, Rabby,
Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite weekends of the year is
Speaker 2: the NCAA Baseball Regionals.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think the other thing that happens is
Speaker 3: and I'll share some stories from Hoover, Alabama, which I
Speaker 3: honestly I'd never been there. This was the first year
Speaker 3: they got a chance to go to the SEC tournament.
Speaker 3: It is a special place, and I'm in Alabama a
Speaker 3: lot during the winter. I drive from Atlanta or Birmingham
Speaker 3: to touch GALOOSU to call Alabama basketball games for the
Speaker 3: SEC and other areas around there. Hoover, Alabama is a
Speaker 3: really unique place. I mean, there's a part of it
Speaker 3: that almost looks like it's a Disney World. Every home
Speaker 3: is gorgeous, the facility the baseball field is incredible. Short
Speaker 3: of the weather being a little bit unpredictable, and it
Speaker 3: was again this week. It's as neat and as nice
Speaker 3: and as inviting as you can find for a college
Speaker 3: basketball baseball facility. The games were competitive, Georgia ended up
Speaker 3: winning this thing. And to your point, every team's got
Speaker 3: good arms, every team has superstars, and every team's going
Speaker 3: to need one or two guys to step up and maybe,
Speaker 3: you know, OutKick themselves a little bit or play over
Speaker 3: their skis a little bit. And this weekend it wasn't
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones who was the MVP. It was Kenny Ishikawa
Speaker 3: who impressed the heck out of me with his back
Speaker 3: to ball skills. He was in the middle of everything,
Speaker 3: and on a team that's loaded with superstar players. He's
Speaker 3: a really real, really good player. But you would circle
Speaker 3: other people. And if you're gonna go through the regionals,
Speaker 3: through the Supers and through Omaha, you're gonna need you're
Speaker 3: gonna need the sixth, seventh, eighth, and ninth guys to
Speaker 3: contribute as well. And nobody knows that better than our
Speaker 3: guest coach, Jim Schlosnaga. You want to welcome in the
Speaker 3: coach there. He is man coach loss. Thanks so much
Speaker 3: for joining us here on dirt from the dugout. We
Speaker 3: appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, honored to be here. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1: Been following what you guys have been doing and putting
Speaker 1: out great podcast content and everything. So looking forward to
Speaker 1: hanging with you guys tonight.
Speaker 3: Appreciate that. So was that a fact? I mean, you're
Speaker 3: gonna you're gonna need everybody, right, I mean this is
Speaker 3: not just Dylan Valantis and where we're good or Mendoza.
Speaker 3: We're gonna need and every team through the course of
Speaker 3: these rounds. You're gonna need some some guys to step up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think, uh, in any tournament format,
Speaker 1: especially the regional, it's a it's a four team to ornament.
Speaker 1: You can win in three games. You can lose it too,
Speaker 1: or I've been a part of them where you lose
Speaker 1: the first game and have to win four or five games.
Speaker 1: So the depth of your pitching certainly gets tested. But
Speaker 1: you need your best players to play well, and then
Speaker 1: you need those supporting cast players to execute when they're
Speaker 1: asked to. And you know, the super Regional, if you're
Speaker 1: able to make that, it's it's the best two out
Speaker 1: of three, So you don't go as deep into your
Speaker 1: pitching normally, but then when you get to Omaha, especially
Speaker 1: now since it's a condensed schedule over about ten days
Speaker 1: versus about used to be two weeks, your pitching depth
Speaker 1: can get tested a lot there too, So it takes
Speaker 1: the entire team.
Speaker 3: Right, it's a great night. Get your questions in and
Speaker 3: you're looking at the head coach of the University of Texas.
Speaker 3: That's Jim Schlosnegel. He's had an incredible resume, he's had
Speaker 3: an incredible run. He's on his way to the Hall
Speaker 3: of Fame for sure, at least in my opinion, between
Speaker 3: when it get at Texas A and M when he
Speaker 3: did at TCU. But let's just roll the tape back
Speaker 3: a little bit. Coach here for people who are watching,
Speaker 3: and our live show is really designed for parents of players,
Speaker 3: young players, high schoolers, college players. You know you got
Speaker 3: into this game, but it was other sports that you
Speaker 3: were playing, and finally you focused in on baseball in
Speaker 3: a short way. If you can't, how did we get
Speaker 3: from where you were as a ten year old to
Speaker 3: where you are now.
Speaker 1: Well, I grew up in western Maryland and in those
Speaker 1: days you played football in the fall, basketball in the
Speaker 1: winter baseball in the spring and some legion baseball in
Speaker 1: the summer, and then started it all over again with
Speaker 1: summer basketball and football camp. And so I did that
Speaker 1: all the way through high school. Baseball was not my
Speaker 1: favorite sport. I was actually a bigger college basketball fan
Speaker 1: than anything, but baseball was the thing I had a
Speaker 1: chance to play at least a little bit. In college.
Speaker 1: I went to Elon, a little school in North Carolina
Speaker 1: and it's in AI school. When I was there, it's
Speaker 1: now Division I school. And in my sophomore year, college
Speaker 1: coach called me in and I was a journalism major.
Speaker 1: I was actually hoping to become like Carl Ravich and
Speaker 1: be a journalist of some kind. And my college coach said, hey,
Speaker 1: I think you'd make a good coach. You need to
Speaker 1: think about changing your major, and long story short, I
Speaker 1: did and got super fortunate. I was a student assistant
Speaker 1: coach my last couple of years of college, and then
Speaker 1: got super lucky in nineteen the summer of nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: two and got a job at Clemson University as a
Speaker 1: volunteer coach at twenty two and that got my college
Speaker 1: career started. But it just tells you about the impact
Speaker 1: of a coach, right, And I looked up to my
Speaker 1: college coach so much that he taught you know, he
Speaker 1: saw something in me that made me change a career
Speaker 1: path and it turned out pretty good.
Speaker 3: All right, So justin I know you want to get
Speaker 3: in here, just let me follow up on that. I
Speaker 3: think it's a really interesting point for parents and for coaches.
Speaker 3: Is you had a coach who was willing to have
Speaker 3: a hard conversation with you, who put it out there
Speaker 3: and said it may be time to think about something else.
Speaker 3: You then learn from that you certainly had to have
Speaker 3: hard conversations. Is there some kind of guideline that you
Speaker 3: can give to either parents or coaches who have to
Speaker 3: deliver the tough message and on the other side, how
Speaker 3: you learn to deal with receiving a tough message.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think one of the greatest traits
Speaker 1: I think a person can have, and I always tell
Speaker 1: our players one of the greatest one of the common
Speaker 1: traits of all the great players that I've coached is awareness.
Speaker 1: Like they're self aware. They have a good combination of confidence,
Speaker 1: but they're also they have humility. They're humble enough to
Speaker 1: be coached. They're humble enough to be told you know,
Speaker 1: what they need to do to get better or where
Speaker 1: they stand. And even at that age, I was I mean,
Speaker 1: all I had to do was look around and see
Speaker 1: my talent level as a player compared to you know,
Speaker 1: an NAI World Series team, which is what I was
Speaker 1: a part of, and and it was pretty aware. I
Speaker 1: was pretty self aware that I wasn't going to be
Speaker 1: playing in the major leagues and maybe get to play
Speaker 1: a little bit in college. But my college coach called
Speaker 1: me in and said, you can keep doing this or
Speaker 1: you can really get a jump start on the rest
Speaker 1: of your life, which is which was going to be coaching.
Speaker 1: And so I learned a lot from that. And certainly
Speaker 1: as a leader in anything you have to have, you
Speaker 1: want to tell people the truth. Certainly you want them
Speaker 1: to you want to do it in the right way,
Speaker 1: and you want them to know that you care. So
Speaker 1: that way, when they received that message, even though it
Speaker 1: might be tough for them to hear in the short term,
Speaker 1: they know that you have their best interest at heart.
Speaker 1: And so it's definitely a moment that I remember, and
Speaker 1: I remember where I was standing when he told me that,
Speaker 1: and I try to keep that in mind. You know
Speaker 1: when I have to deliver. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: tough news, but just reality. You know, have real conversations
Speaker 1: with a player, and I think if you're not telling
Speaker 1: them the truth, then you're leading them down a path
Speaker 1: it's not reality. And I think young people can handle it,
Speaker 1: you know, I truly believe that.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, it's awesome, awesome feedback there, Jim. And one
Speaker 2: thing I want to kind of get into is you've
Speaker 2: been able to sustain the success, which I think has
Speaker 2: been one of the most challenging things, as you know
Speaker 2: better than anyone for any coach, right and all the
Speaker 2: coaches that I talked to, there's so much change that's
Speaker 2: happened in the NCAA in the last let's just say,
Speaker 2: ten years. But you've been able to adapt to that.
Speaker 2: And if we're being honest, there are some coaches that
Speaker 2: have struggled to adapt to that. You know, historically great
Speaker 2: coaches that have really struggled in that transition. What have
Speaker 2: you done to win throughout all the years and all
Speaker 2: the change that we've seen, and it just seems like
Speaker 2: you just don't skip a beat man, Well.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you saying that. I mean I've obviously I've
Speaker 1: had been fortunate enough to work at great places with
Speaker 1: athletic directors that at they reward success. So as we've
Speaker 1: gotten better as a program, whether it be U NLV
Speaker 1: or TCU or A and M, and certainly now Texas,
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're able to work with people that wanting,
Speaker 1: that want that want to keep moving forward. I would say,
Speaker 1: for me, I'm a pretty boring guy. I don't play golf,
Speaker 1: you know, I like to fish every now and then,
Speaker 1: might be two or three times a year. Baseball is
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a lifestyle for me. This is
Speaker 1: not a profession. This is a lifestyle. And so, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, college baseball and baseball in general, and youth baseball,
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of it. So and I'm also
Speaker 1: you know, I'm on the board of our American Baseball
Speaker 1: Coaches Association, so I get to be a part of
Speaker 1: some really cool conversations about moving our game forward. And
Speaker 1: I mean adapt or die, right, I mean, you better
Speaker 1: if you don't like it, then you better choose something else.
Speaker 1: And so you know, I don't have to always agree
Speaker 1: with the way things have changed in college baseball, but
Speaker 1: if you want to keep coaching, especially in the Southeastern Conference,
Speaker 1: then you better be adapting. And what is it? You know,
Speaker 1: don't hate the player, hate the game and against some
Speaker 1: of the parts of college athletics we can't control right now,
Speaker 1: but you just have to deal with it. And I
Speaker 1: do think at the end of the day, this is
Speaker 1: still about character and leadership development through the sport of baseball.
Speaker 1: That's really what I see my job as. Yes, we
Speaker 1: have to win, but if I can get super talented
Speaker 1: young people to all move in the right direction and
Speaker 1: become a great teammate and be supportive and play for
Speaker 1: the team even though there's all kinds of outside distractions,
Speaker 1: then we're going to have success. And that's really what
Speaker 1: my focus is is keeping the whole battleship moving forward.
Speaker 3: Right, that's the whole, that's the pat riley. You know,
Speaker 3: it's definitely not about me. It's about we and the
Speaker 3: disease of me and all the those things. It's that's
Speaker 3: a very very important point here. Uh, we have questions
Speaker 3: here that we're going to get to. But three things
Speaker 3: that you said that triggered the thought and memory of mine.
Speaker 3: A and news director in Binghamton, New York told me
Speaker 3: that I was not going to be the weekday sports guy.
Speaker 3: So rather than just quitting or changing my major, I
Speaker 3: sort of took a screw that mentality and and plowed ahead.
Speaker 3: That was one thing I had a father who told me, Yeah,
Speaker 3: since you didn't get that job, maybe you want to
Speaker 3: try something else. I wasn't quite ready to do that,
Speaker 3: but you did say. And this is a question we
Speaker 3: got from somebody here. He said, what did you change
Speaker 3: your major?
Speaker 1: Two?
Speaker 3: You know, you you you, you decided to get out
Speaker 3: of it. What did you change it to?
Speaker 1: I changed it to education because I was completely planning
Speaker 1: on being a high school coach, you know, I I
Speaker 1: you know, so I need to get my teaching certification.
Speaker 1: So I actually did my in the spring of my
Speaker 1: senior year. I did my student teaching six weeks in kindergarten.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Utah kindergarten. What's that? Utah kindergarten, kindergarten, physical education, kindergarten.
Speaker 1: Pe I did for six weeks. And what are we
Speaker 1: doing a high school? High school teacher or kindergarten? I
Speaker 1: take kindergarten every day. Really, high school was a lot
Speaker 1: more challenging, but and I was playing on I was
Speaker 1: headed back to I graduated. I was going to go
Speaker 1: back to Elon and do my grad school, but I
Speaker 1: got super lucky working a camp at Clemson in the
Speaker 1: summer of ninety two and a bunch of inc double
Speaker 1: A rules changed and they created this thing called a
Speaker 1: volunteer coach, and so I was a volunteer coach in
Speaker 1: the very first year of volunteer coaches, which, as you know, RAVI,
Speaker 1: they had that in college basketball too. You had restricted
Speaker 1: earnings coaches and you had volunteer coaches. So that's how
Speaker 1: I got started.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no earnings. Well, I just I'm curious. Kindergarten, what
Speaker 3: are we teaching the kids? Are we doing summersaults? Are
Speaker 3: we doing push ups? What are running around? What are
Speaker 3: we doing?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what a curriculum was back then, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you're you're getting kids moving like they playing
Speaker 1: kickball and uh you know, yeah, gymnastics I don't remember, but.
Speaker 3: Game of tag whatever, it is, just just burn energy,
Speaker 3: just get it, get it moving around.
Speaker 1: Even active. I mean, do they even still have physical
Speaker 1: education in in uh middle school and high school? Now?
Speaker 3: Can I just presidential with the Presidential Physical Fitness Award?
Speaker 3: Did you do that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: That I remember. I don't know. I don't know that happens.
Speaker 2: I could never get said in each man sad and
Speaker 2: reach killed me on that.
Speaker 3: Climb the road right, no chance. I never got the
Speaker 3: leg thing correct. I couldn't wrap the legs around. Look,
Speaker 3: we digress. Uh, here's a good question for you. And
Speaker 3: this this applies to every level. It comes from Mark.
Speaker 3: He says, what's the most underrated trait in a player
Speaker 3: that he never shows up on a stat sheet? Good question?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, you know, their ability to handle adversity.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean just, I mean without question. You
Speaker 1: know when you Rabi, you've seen. We have a kid
Speaker 1: on our team named Anthony Pack who was the you know,
Speaker 1: he's the SEC freshman of the year. He'll be in
Speaker 1: the conversation for the National Freshman of the Year. And
Speaker 1: he's just And it comes from, I guess, the way
Speaker 1: most kids are raised. And he has two great parents.
Speaker 1: The way Anthony walks in the building, the way he
Speaker 1: walked in the building the first day he was able
Speaker 1: to take coaching, he had a ton of failure until
Speaker 1: you know, Troy Tilwhiskey, our hitting coach, really found a
Speaker 1: good you know, kind of hitting move for him to
Speaker 1: be able to execute to have more success, and then
Speaker 1: his ability to navigate through the Southeastern Conference and the
Speaker 1: expectations and playing at Texas, which is a lot for
Speaker 1: these kids. I would say, I would say that, you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's really going to define any baseball player, you know,
Speaker 1: especially a hitter, is your ability to move on to
Speaker 1: the next day, whether you've had a good day or
Speaker 1: a bad day. And I think that's you know, for
Speaker 1: for parents out there, it's okay for them to have
Speaker 1: a bad game, like, uh, you know, it's okay for
Speaker 1: them to go over four. You know, maybe they went
Speaker 1: over four because they hammered the ball four times and
Speaker 1: went at somebody. But I think letting not it's not
Speaker 1: it's allowing them to process the failure or the adversity, uh,
Speaker 1: and see the opportunity in the in the adversity is
Speaker 1: such a great parenting skill. We all don't hate to
Speaker 1: see our children hurt. I have a son and a daughter.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, we all know, no matter
Speaker 1: what they choose to get into, whether it's sports or
Speaker 1: whatever other business, the most successful people are the ones
Speaker 1: that fight through the failure. I mean, I've screwed up
Speaker 1: so much as a college coach. I mean I've had
Speaker 1: success because I've screw and learned prof you know, and
Speaker 1: I think that's the case for everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jim, what do you do to I mean, obviously
Speaker 2: the SEC is it's you know, kind of its own
Speaker 2: level now right, It's just so challenging. What do you
Speaker 2: do to get your guys ready mentally? You know, physically
Speaker 2: obviously we can kind of talk about that all day
Speaker 2: long too, but you just kind of hit on it.
Speaker 2: Just the mental challenges that that comes with, right of
Speaker 2: coming in and performing in that those environments, and when
Speaker 2: you start to struggle, you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: chatter now right. You have social media. There's more coverage
Speaker 2: in college baseball than ever, so they hear it now right.
Speaker 2: There's there's just a lot of stuff coming at them.
Speaker 2: What do you do away from the field, away from
Speaker 2: the games, I should say, to mentally prepare your guys
Speaker 2: for the big moments.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is this is certainly a topic that
Speaker 1: I love. I really think it's a secret to the
Speaker 1: success of our program. Since two thousand and six, I've
Speaker 1: worked with a guy named Brian Kane, who's now blown
Speaker 1: up and works with about twenty five or thirty major
Speaker 1: league players. He studied under Ken Ravisa, kind of one
Speaker 1: of the godfathers of the mental game of baseball. And
Speaker 1: it's really at the at the foundation of our program
Speaker 1: and from the from the very first day our kids
Speaker 1: get on campus. We talk about routines, both your daily
Speaker 1: routine and then also your you know, your your routine
Speaker 1: during you're at bat and you can't control where you know,
Speaker 1: you can't control once you've hit the ball, you can't
Speaker 1: control where it goes. There's so much luck involved in baseball,
Speaker 1: but you can control yourself, right. So the basic premise
Speaker 1: of what we talk about is you cannot be in
Speaker 1: control of your performance until you're in control of yourself.
Speaker 1: And so how do you do that? Well, you have
Speaker 1: a consistent routine that involves a big breath, right and
Speaker 1: what we call focal point. We don't need to go
Speaker 1: too far down that, but we practice and we do
Speaker 1: that all the time so that when you get in
Speaker 1: these moments, whether it be a regional this weekend, the
Speaker 1: SEC tournament, or Omaha, it's still the same game. It's
Speaker 1: the environment that's changed. So in your ability to catch
Speaker 1: your breath and keep your heart rate under control is
Speaker 1: gonna give you the best chance for success. We've all
Speaker 1: seen players that are awesome during batting practice, but when
Speaker 1: the game starts, like man, the game really speeds up
Speaker 1: on them. And then you see other players that man,
Speaker 1: they just seemed to like Anthony Pack, they just always
Speaker 1: seem to be in control and the game never gets
Speaker 1: away from them. Well, that's a skill that is actually
Speaker 1: a skill you can practice, and we practice it all
Speaker 1: the time. And so when we get to those moments
Speaker 1: there is we don't use the word step up in
Speaker 1: our program. You revert to your training. And so if
Speaker 1: you've done the same thing all the time, when you
Speaker 1: get in these moments, what do you do? You just
Speaker 1: do what you've always done. Right, Maybe that breath is
Speaker 1: a little bigger, Maybe you take a little extra second
Speaker 1: to try to get your you know, to slow the
Speaker 1: game down and get your heart rate under control. But
Speaker 1: but you have to practice that all year, and we
Speaker 1: do that from the very very first day of fall
Speaker 1: practice hopefully all the way through Omaha.
Speaker 3: So people that are going to watch the Longhorns play
Speaker 3: and they're going to see them when they get two
Speaker 3: strikes they tap their chest, so to me, that indicates
Speaker 3: they recognize they're in this moment. They look back to
Speaker 3: the bench. What will the people who watch the Longhorns
Speaker 3: play during the regionals then Supers and hopefully at Omaha.
Speaker 3: What what is it? What is that doing? What does
Speaker 3: that mean?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, first of all, you know, we want
Speaker 1: to have we don't want to have a Bush League
Speaker 1: dug out, but we want to have a dugout with
Speaker 1: some energy. We want to have a dugout. We call
Speaker 1: it dugout intent. Right, So you're if you're on the
Speaker 1: if you're on the bench, or you're up on the
Speaker 1: top you're up on the top rail and what we
Speaker 1: call it is spotting. So if you're if I'm trying
Speaker 1: to bench, you know, if my max bench is two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pounds, which is not, but if it was,
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm trying to get two fifty off
Speaker 1: the bar and I'm lifting by myself, that's gonna be
Speaker 1: really tough. But if I have my whole team around me,
Speaker 1: if I have the whole team cheering me on and
Speaker 1: I can feel that energy, then I have a better
Speaker 1: chance to move that weight. Well, that's really what you see.
Speaker 1: And we aren't the only team that does that. I
Speaker 1: don't know why the other teams do it. But it's
Speaker 1: also just representing, hey, I'm in a two strike count.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go win this pitch and you guys
Speaker 1: with are you guys with me? Yeah, we're with you.
Speaker 1: And so it's really team based and we just actually start.
Speaker 1: We didn't do it last year, but one of our
Speaker 1: goals off of our team last year was to try
Speaker 1: and one of two Low's goals for our hitters was
Speaker 1: to cut our strikeouts down by one hundred, which sounds
Speaker 1: like a lot to start the season, but it's actually
Speaker 1: when you play fifty plus games, it's only two a game,
Speaker 1: and I think we're close to doing that. And that
Speaker 1: was just kind of a physical act that we wanted
Speaker 1: to put in the program that that would bring awareness
Speaker 1: to the situation that hey, I'm going to be really
Speaker 1: fighting here with two strikes and I need you guys
Speaker 1: behind me.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's really cool. You know that's that's spoken like
Speaker 3: a football guy right there. I mean I wanted to
Speaker 3: That made me want to put pads on and go
Speaker 3: play for everybody else, I'm curious with your experience in
Speaker 3: playing the other sports. I don't know if you've coached
Speaker 3: any of them at any level, but there are there
Speaker 3: are similarities, and there probably are subtle, if not significant,
Speaker 3: differences between coaching a basketball player, a football player, and
Speaker 3: a baseball player. How do you get the most out
Speaker 3: of for the purposes of our dirt from the Dugout
Speaker 3: Live show here, the most out of a baseball player
Speaker 3: at any age? How do you get the most out
Speaker 3: of them?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean baseball. Well, first of all, I'm a
Speaker 1: fan of playing all the sports. I mean, play all
Speaker 1: the sports for as long as you can play them.
Speaker 1: I think it's there's a noticeable difference. I love coaching
Speaker 1: kids that played high school football, basketball too, but specifically
Speaker 1: football because there's so many practices and so few games.
Speaker 1: And in youth baseball today, there's so many games and
Speaker 1: so few practices. You know, a kid may take a lesson,
Speaker 1: but they don't have they don't they don't practice baseball
Speaker 1: that much. They they may take batting practice, but in
Speaker 1: terms of actually playing, practicing the actual game game, situational baseball,
Speaker 1: what we would call winning baseball. You know what, what
Speaker 1: what I would do? Your your question was about developing
Speaker 1: a baseball player. It's it's teaching them more than just
Speaker 1: the skill of the game. It's how is the game played?
Speaker 1: How can you best help your team win? Which isn't
Speaker 1: always going to be hitting a home run right, It
Speaker 1: may be moving a runner is throwing the ball to
Speaker 1: the right base. And I think young young players today,
Speaker 1: I think the players today, they're the most talented players
Speaker 1: that we've ever seen. It's you know, and that's all
Speaker 1: the way to the SEC especially with a shrunken draft.
Speaker 1: This is the golden age of college baseball. I think
Speaker 1: it's the golden age of youth baseball in terms of
Speaker 1: the talent of the player. But the skill like talent
Speaker 1: is something that you have and you're blessed with the
Speaker 1: skill of the players are is very much behind where
Speaker 1: it used to be. And I don't want to sound
Speaker 1: like the old guy that's you know, you know, moaning
Speaker 1: in the corner, but it's just learned. When our players
Speaker 1: come to the to Texas and let's say it's Anthony
Speaker 1: packin left field and there's a ground ball hit the
Speaker 1: left a single hit the left field, there's a runner
Speaker 1: at second base, Well, you don't always throw it home,
Speaker 1: like you know, so many things have to be in
Speaker 1: order for you to throw the ball to the lead base.
Speaker 1: Most of the time the best thing to do is
Speaker 1: throw at to second base to keep the batter runner
Speaker 1: off second base. So just little things like that that
Speaker 1: really help that we kind of pride our program in
Speaker 1: is playing good, sound, clean, fundamental baseball, or at least
Speaker 1: trying to. That's where coaches today could really help young
Speaker 1: players develop just the skills to help win the game.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Jim, when we're talking about that, you're talking
Speaker 2: about player development, right I mean, there's player development, and
Speaker 2: we you know that's kind of a hot term right now.
Speaker 2: Is everybody's talking about player development, and you know, we
Speaker 2: can talk about that and its own subject sometime. But
Speaker 2: you know, when you talk about individual development, Adam has
Speaker 2: a great question here. So as a coach, how do
Speaker 2: you balance individual player development with making decisions that are
Speaker 2: best for the team to win.
Speaker 1: Well, you're constantly doing both. You know. One a phrase
Speaker 1: we use in our program is we call it you
Speaker 1: got star in your role man, Like you have to
Speaker 1: work while you wait everybody's And that's one thing I
Speaker 1: love about all the other playing and all the other
Speaker 1: sports is I think it's valuable. Let's say you're the
Speaker 1: best baseball player on your fourteen and under team, Well,
Speaker 1: it's okay for you not to not be the best
Speaker 1: basketball player on your basketball team, because then you learn
Speaker 1: how to be a good teammate. You're not the best player,
Speaker 1: maybe even you're maybe even you're coming off the bench,
Speaker 1: will you learn you learn how to do that because
Speaker 1: you're probably not always going to be the best baseball
Speaker 1: player on your team. So the first thing you got
Speaker 1: to do is teach. You know, guys have to learn
Speaker 1: to star in their role until it's their time and
Speaker 1: you still have value. You still bring value to the team.
Speaker 1: But depending on what level of baseball you're at. You know,
Speaker 1: I do think winning is important and teaching young players
Speaker 1: how to win a game and how to learn from
Speaker 1: a loss. You know, it doesn't have it's not necessarily
Speaker 1: a failure. It's it's a learning opportunity. And so for us,
Speaker 1: you know, the freshman on our team who may have
Speaker 1: ten at bats, I mean, we still we're coaching the
Speaker 1: heck out of him every day. And let's say he's
Speaker 1: a catcher. And when we have a catcher that could
Speaker 1: go maybe in the first couple of rounds Carson Tinny.
Speaker 1: When Carson Tinny leaves, then there's going to be a
Speaker 1: void there and the opportunity for somebody to step in
Speaker 1: and play. And if he goes down, we certainly need
Speaker 1: somebody ready to play, you know, right now. So you
Speaker 1: have to do both. But the kids have to feel
Speaker 1: that if if the coach is only working with the
Speaker 1: best players, then the guys not going to the other
Speaker 1: players aren't going to feel the value. So you know,
Speaker 1: the coach has to be all in on coaching everybody.
Speaker 1: But you still got to win the games, and you win,
Speaker 1: you get to you earn your right to play. I mean,
Speaker 1: one thing we prout, we pride ourselves on is I
Speaker 1: don't care what your scholarship is. I don't care what
Speaker 1: your nil deal is. None of that stuff means anything
Speaker 1: when I write a lineup, you know, I have to
Speaker 1: write a lineup that gives Texas Longhorns the best chance
Speaker 1: to win on that particular day. And we've had guys
Speaker 1: on big scholarships not play and watch guys who were
Speaker 1: walk on all the way to Omaha.
Speaker 3: So valuable. So you brought up this question about a
Speaker 3: wonderful to hear that you believe we're in the golden
Speaker 3: age of college baseball and youth baseball. Thank you very
Speaker 3: much for saying that. But as far as development goes,
Speaker 3: what what would you tell the coaches of the youth
Speaker 3: baseball players are the most important things they can do
Speaker 3: to get them to be ready to play junior high,
Speaker 3: high school, college. Because it's a it's we see it
Speaker 3: every night, Jim he used to drive us crazy on
Speaker 3: Baseball Tonight and every other show I saw Aaron Judge
Speaker 3: do it tonight. Why the trail runner thinks it's okay
Speaker 3: to get thrown out when he's not inducing a throw
Speaker 3: to a base We are literally giving up outs. I
Speaker 3: have a hard time with that. When we could extend
Speaker 3: this inning, I'll get off the you know, the pedestal
Speaker 3: here and allow you to answer the question.
Speaker 1: No, that's That's exactly what I'm talking about. And I
Speaker 1: think I never spent a day in Pro Bowl, certainly
Speaker 1: not the Major League, so I can't speak to that
Speaker 1: as much. I can only speak from my perspective is
Speaker 1: young players need practice. That's what I'm talking about. For
Speaker 1: a for you know, how often does Aaron Judge work
Speaker 1: on base running since spring training? I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not calling out Aaron Judge, but you know, young
Speaker 1: players in college players, they need practice. And when you're practicing,
Speaker 1: it can't just be batting practice, right, I'm just envisioning
Speaker 1: being a thirteen U coach or whatever. Every kid on
Speaker 1: my team is probably going somewhere to get lessons, right,
Speaker 1: They're probably have their own hitting coach. So when they
Speaker 1: come to you, guess what, they don't need to practice.
Speaker 1: They don't need to practice city, they don't. They don't
Speaker 1: need to You don't need to take batting practice. What
Speaker 1: you need to do is situational baseball. You know, put
Speaker 1: a runner at second base with the fung go and
Speaker 1: hit the ball left field and teach them, hey, where
Speaker 1: where does the ball go and why, like and if
Speaker 1: and if the guy If the guy does airon mall
Speaker 1: at the home plate, well then yeah, the batter runner
Speaker 1: can get the second base. But if it was a
Speaker 1: three to two count and two outs and the ball
Speaker 1: trickled through the sixth hole, well that guy's going to
Speaker 1: walk home. You don't need to try to draw a
Speaker 1: throw at a second base because he's going to be
Speaker 1: able to score easily because the count and the outs
Speaker 1: and how hard the ball is hit matters. So just
Speaker 1: that's what now to do that you really got to
Speaker 1: study baseball. Let me preface all this by saying the
Speaker 1: most important job of a youth coach is to make
Speaker 1: sure the kids enjoy baseball and enjoy they have to
Speaker 1: learn what helps a team win, because if they put
Speaker 1: all of their value in hitting and you if they
Speaker 1: you know, no disrespect to soccer, but when the soccer
Speaker 1: game's over, when a kid gets in the car, what
Speaker 1: do they say, I kicked it four times? I mean,
Speaker 1: that's it, you know. I mean in baseball, you have
Speaker 1: to deal with an zero for four, You have to
Speaker 1: deal with striking out, you have to deal with making
Speaker 1: a really good pitch and the ball falls in for
Speaker 1: a hit. So I think a youth coach needs to
Speaker 1: a make sure kids have fun and understand what winning
Speaker 1: baseball is, and then teach them good situational baseball.
Speaker 3: Right. I love that, I really do, and I think
Speaker 3: it's so important. Your buddy, my friend show Walter all
Speaker 3: what he does all the time. One of the things
Speaker 3: he does a million but one of the things he
Speaker 3: does is he watches the off ball activity of all
Speaker 3: the players I know that the left fielder is throwing
Speaker 3: it to second base. I want to see where the
Speaker 3: right fielder is, what my catcher's doing, where the first
Speaker 3: basement is going. It's just a valuable lesson, I think,
Speaker 3: and I know you know that that a guy like
Speaker 3: Show Walter can give about teaching the game, not just
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Speaker 1: Ooh that I haven't done yet? Oh man, you had?
Speaker 1: I was all teed up for the great college football
Speaker 1: games I get to see. Uh yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: haven't been. I haven't been to an NBA final. I
Speaker 1: haven't been to a Final four because it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's always during it's always during college baseball season. Final four. Yeah,
Speaker 1: final four. I've never been to a final four.
Speaker 3: I can feel that I've been. I've been a few.
Speaker 3: It's it's pretty special. Although it's remarkable what TV has done.
Speaker 3: TV has rendered being in person in many I'd say,
Speaker 3: with the exception of hockey, I think hockey in person
Speaker 3: is the greatest sport that there is out there. But yeah,
Speaker 3: final fours are really cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm a huge college basketball fan. I grew up.
Speaker 1: I'm a big NBA fan, but I haven't carried that
Speaker 1: on the rest of my life. But college college football
Speaker 1: getting the coach at TC, TCU and A and M
Speaker 1: and now Texas, like, that's I don't we don't ever
Speaker 1: practice on Saturdays, uh in the fall, and it's mainly
Speaker 1: because I'm not missing any college.
Speaker 2: From exactly good for good Yeah yeah, yeah, that's great, man,
Speaker 2: that's great. And so I guess as we kind of
Speaker 2: like dive into some more of these questions here, Jim,
Speaker 2: there's just been some really good questions here from some
Speaker 2: of the some of the people watching. Melanie asks when
Speaker 2: the cameras are off, as we kind of shift back
Speaker 2: to baseball and the coaching side of it, when the
Speaker 2: cameras are off and nobody's watching, what behaviors tell you
Speaker 2: a player is built differently.
Speaker 1: Question know, just how yeah, just how they go about
Speaker 1: their business on a daily basis, right, You know, true
Speaker 1: test of a man's character is how he conducts himself
Speaker 1: when he believe no one's watching, right, And so you
Speaker 1: get to see these kids every day and how much
Speaker 1: you know their attention to detail on time is late, right,
Speaker 1: they're they're they're prompt or else we'll you know, we'll
Speaker 1: handle that as a program. But uh, the guys that
Speaker 1: are just so consistent with their teams and that everything
Speaker 1: matters to them, you know. And when I said that
Speaker 1: this is the Golden ass of college baseball, that's what
Speaker 1: I meant. The flip side of that is, the margin
Speaker 1: between being either a good team or a bad team
Speaker 1: is thin. Being a good player or a guy that
Speaker 1: plays or doesn't player is super thin. And so what
Speaker 1: most baseball players and athletes in general, but especially baseball
Speaker 1: players are looking for is consistency on the field. Well,
Speaker 1: you're never going to find consistency on the field if
Speaker 1: you're inconsistent away from the field, especially when the talent
Speaker 1: level becomes super equal, which it is in the SEC.
Speaker 1: And so that's really what my job is is if
Speaker 1: I can get the very most talented players in the
Speaker 1: country that we are so fortunate to get to recruit
Speaker 1: and coach at a place like Texas, it's like your
Speaker 1: parents being a parent. If I can just get them
Speaker 1: to make the right choices right away from the field,
Speaker 1: what they're doing at night, what they're doing in the morning.
Speaker 1: Are they staying on top of their hydration and recovery
Speaker 1: and nutrition and academics. Well, then if they do all
Speaker 1: that stuff, we're going to be fine on the baseball field, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, the baseball gods may get us one year
Speaker 1: or one game or one bounce, but it's really just
Speaker 1: the consistency and their life skills away from the field.
Speaker 3: Coach, I've been to some amazing college environments. I'm lucky
Speaker 3: enough to go to Omaha every year, and we know
Speaker 3: what that's like. Hoover was a phenomenal environment. It hadn't
Speaker 3: been how important We got a question from somebody else,
Speaker 3: how important is it given these home field advantages? How
Speaker 3: important was it to be in a position to host
Speaker 3: a regional this postseason? What comes with that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? It's huge. I mean, you know, just the opportunity
Speaker 1: to sleep in your own bed, to be on your
Speaker 1: own field, to be in your own dugout, just going
Speaker 1: back to routine everything. The more you can make it
Speaker 1: consistent like it has been over the course of the
Speaker 1: season in our park obviously our own fans, that's huge,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's definitely an advantage, There's no doubt
Speaker 1: about it. That's why, I mean, I don't know what
Speaker 1: the what the stats are now, but it used to
Speaker 1: be close to three quarters of the host schools would
Speaker 1: you know, would be advancing to Omaha. So now it's
Speaker 1: also if you're the better if you get to host
Speaker 1: because you're one of the better teams, so you have
Speaker 1: a good team as well. But as we saw last year.
Speaker 1: Last year we were a national seat and we got
Speaker 1: beaten our own regional UTSA Texas San Antonio. They won
Speaker 1: our regional and went to UCLA for the super regional.
Speaker 1: So it doesn't guarantee anything, but it's certainly it's nice
Speaker 1: to be at home. You don't have to travel, you
Speaker 1: can just stay in your own routine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you brought up the name Troy Tchulwiski
Speaker 3: justin let me just get data, and that you got
Speaker 3: you had you surround yourself with great coaches, Tulowitzki, Max Wiener,
Speaker 3: Nolan Kine. Uh, you know you're talking to now parents, coaches,
Speaker 3: little league, junior, high school, whatever they may be. How
Speaker 3: do you balance the the idea of being the man
Speaker 3: in charge with delegating responsibilities to people you know are
Speaker 3: qualified to do their jobs as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, once you hire someone who's super talented
Speaker 1: at what they do, then my job is it's just
Speaker 1: it's the same thing for as I do for a player.
Speaker 1: Is if I hire Troy Tulowitzki and we deem that
Speaker 1: obviously he was a great player, but he's a great coach.
Speaker 1: It's the fact that he was a great player is helpful,
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you still have
Speaker 1: to be a good coach. Players will see right through
Speaker 1: that if it's just because you were a great player.
Speaker 1: And so my job is to support too low and
Speaker 1: give him a platform that allows him to be successful
Speaker 1: as a coach. And I don't I have zero ego
Speaker 1: in this thing. I could care less who gets credit.
Speaker 1: Max Winger is awesome at coaching pitchers, and Nolan Kane's
Speaker 1: a great catching catching coach and an incredible third base
Speaker 1: coach and one of the best recruiters in the country,
Speaker 1: and so my job is to give those guys the
Speaker 1: space to be successful. And then for me, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever my role is, which you know, I run the offense.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to be given the signs from the
Speaker 1: dugout and you know, I'm going to make the ultimate
Speaker 1: decision on pitching changes and stuff like that. And of
Speaker 1: course my job is to oversee and run the entire
Speaker 1: entirety of the program at the University of Texas, which
Speaker 1: is a big, massive battleship. That's a big program.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, but you know, I've always had
Speaker 1: great coaching staff's at TCU, great staff at A and M.
Speaker 1: And you know, luckily, you know, I've build enough of
Speaker 1: a career to where I've gotten to places and worked
Speaker 1: with administrations that allow allow us to a hire the
Speaker 1: best people and be keep them and uh and if
Speaker 1: a guy moves on to be a head coach, that's great.
Speaker 1: We don't we celebrate that and then we'll just go
Speaker 1: hire the next great one.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Jim, you brought up Nolah Kane, And I
Speaker 2: think anytime you talk about a program and a success
Speaker 2: and the sustainability of winning, you always you always have
Speaker 2: to go down to recruiting a little bit, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: that's a big part of it. Nolan's a good friend
Speaker 2: of mine and obviously one of your key hires of yours,
Speaker 2: And I just want I'd like you to talk a
Speaker 2: little bit about building through recruiting and how important that is,
Speaker 2: how important that role is to nail on the right players,
Speaker 2: but the right people for the culture. I'd love you
Speaker 2: to just share a little bit more and give a
Speaker 2: little bit more insight to the to the people listening
Speaker 2: on all of that and how you know what what
Speaker 2: that entails of building that through who you're bringing in
Speaker 2: every year with this transactional baseball that we're basically in
Speaker 2: in college baseball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a huge question with a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of answers. First of all, First of all, you
Speaker 1: have to be good enough, right, there's a base level
Speaker 1: of skill and talent, you know, to be a great
Speaker 1: NAI player, you have to be a certain level to
Speaker 1: play in the SEC. You have to first be good enough.
Speaker 1: So you have to have a guy like Nolan Kane
Speaker 1: who can identify talent and he's been doing that for
Speaker 1: SEC schools at LSU, Texas A and m and now Texas.
Speaker 1: He's been doing that for a really long time and
Speaker 1: he played at LSU won a national title in two
Speaker 1: thousand and nine, so he knows what they look like.
Speaker 1: That's the first thing. And then the second thing, you
Speaker 1: know is once you identify, okay, we know who the
Speaker 1: top eight shortstops in the country are, or the guys
Speaker 1: that you know we have a chance to get. Then
Speaker 1: you're you're talking to people that you've had, especially a
Speaker 1: guy like Nolan has had relationships with summer coaches or
Speaker 1: high school coaches or scouts or maybe an agent or
Speaker 1: someone that's connected to the family and the player that
Speaker 1: can tell us, you know, who is this person? You
Speaker 1: know what what are they like on their worst day,
Speaker 1: what are they like on their best day, what kind
Speaker 1: of how do they handle failure? What kind of teammate?
Speaker 1: Are they? Right? And we try to get out and
Speaker 1: see as much as we can, but as you said,
Speaker 1: all of this stuff happens really fast. And just because
Speaker 1: a guy comes on an official is it which we
Speaker 1: can learn some things there, but you know, the official
Speaker 1: visit is kind of like the first date, Like you're
Speaker 1: you're putting on your best shirt, You're going to act
Speaker 1: the best in front of your mom, right, And so
Speaker 1: you never really know until you coach somebody, which is
Speaker 1: why we try to talk to as many people surrounding
Speaker 1: the player as we possibly can. Some and I would
Speaker 1: tell the players out there or the parents, like even
Speaker 1: the people that you don't think are resources for us
Speaker 1: to evaluate your son or I guess for a female
Speaker 1: coach a daughter, we're gonna call them to you know,
Speaker 1: maybe an opposing coach and how did he act? You
Speaker 1: know that that kind of thing. We you know, we
Speaker 1: can't miss on these things because you know, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of money at the end of it in terms
Speaker 1: of at the University of Texas, we have to win.
Speaker 1: So and how do you win when you win with good,
Speaker 1: good people who also happen to be super talented. So
Speaker 1: you got to be a good guy first, and then
Speaker 1: we'll figure out the baseball leader.
Speaker 3: What what drives Jim Schlosnagel. You know, you you mentioned comfort.
Speaker 3: You could have stayed at TCU. Heck, you could have
Speaker 3: stayed at UNLV. It's sensily warm out there, and you
Speaker 3: like being in a Like what what drives you?
Speaker 1: Well? Uh, I'm I'm a very competitive guy and I
Speaker 1: love by time at TCU, went to Omaha five times,
Speaker 1: five times and ten years, including four in a row.
Speaker 1: But I you know, when you're watching college baseball and
Speaker 1: you're watching the the SEC is the best conference. It
Speaker 1: just is, and it's the biggest environments. And I have
Speaker 1: a saying that I use in my life that if
Speaker 1: you're not living life on the edge, you're taking up
Speaker 1: too much room. And so I really just at fifty
Speaker 1: years old, I wanted to challenge myself. And I love
Speaker 1: TCU certainly, and TAC you can win a national championship
Speaker 1: at any time, at any year, But what drives me
Speaker 1: is just the I want to challenge myself against the
Speaker 1: best in whatever that I'm trying to do. And uh,
Speaker 1: from a from a coaching staff, I mean, obviously I
Speaker 1: want to win and all that kind of stuff, but
Speaker 1: I really enjoy being a part of a team, right
Speaker 1: And if when you hear coaches retire or players retire,
Speaker 1: that's what you hear from them is they miss being
Speaker 1: around the guys. And I mean, I'm at a donor's
Speaker 1: house right now doing this with you guys, and we
Speaker 1: just had the team over here to be around this
Speaker 1: pool and eat some barbecue and just kind of take
Speaker 1: catch a breath for a second before we play this regional.
Speaker 1: And that's really you know, the games are going to
Speaker 1: come and go. You'll I'll remember some of the big
Speaker 1: games and stuff like that, but you're really just going
Speaker 1: to remember, you know, the relationships with the players. So
Speaker 1: I love winning, I love competing, and I love being
Speaker 1: part of a team.
Speaker 3: All right, did you hear that? Justin? Do you hear
Speaker 3: that if you're not living on the edge, you're taking up.
Speaker 1: Room too much?
Speaker 2: Roo Hey, you could be hanging on at the pool
Speaker 2: and you're on here with us. Man, we really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody wants to see me around the pool and
Speaker 1: my swimsuit. But I think the guys have all gone home,
Speaker 1: they've they've moved on to other things. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's too much on the edge the pool edge.
Speaker 3: There you go. Hey, I got a good one for
Speaker 3: you here. So if Arch Manning decides, you know what,
Speaker 3: I want to play both sports. I want to play baseball.
Speaker 3: Where are you playing Arch Manning? What position?
Speaker 1: Well? Arch is a first of all, Arch is a
Speaker 1: great dude. Uh And I was actually when I was
Speaker 1: at TWU Lane. You know, the Mannings lived right off
Speaker 1: campus in New Orleans and they went to Newman High School,
Speaker 1: which is like two blocks away from church and stadium
Speaker 1: the ballpark. I don't think it's churching anymore, but from
Speaker 1: the ballpark at TWU Lane and Peyton and Eli used
Speaker 1: to come to baseball camp when they were little guys.
Speaker 1: And you know Archie Archie Manning was a shortstop at
Speaker 1: Old Miss as well as the quarterback at Ole Miss,
Speaker 1: and so they love baseball. Arches around all the time.
Speaker 1: He's arch is like six' four about two forty uh
Speaker 1: and he can. Run so arch probably profiles as a
Speaker 1: power hitting, outfielder like a right fielder with a cannon.
Speaker 1: Arm that would be where he.
Speaker 3: Falls Dave, Winfield.
Speaker 1: Yeah Dave, winfield Some Dwight, evans very.
Speaker 3: Little Evans, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: YEAH i think arch runs better Than Dwight. Evans But
Speaker 1: evans had that rocket arm right.
Speaker 3: Hey every every show ON dr from The, dugout we
Speaker 3: asked the, guest did we've we Had clemens, on we
Speaker 3: had Theo epstein, On we're gonna Have Dustin pedroia, on
Speaker 3: we Had mark De rosa. On we asked who THE
Speaker 3: mvp is in your, life and it's not the most valuable.
Speaker 3: Player it means who's been the most valuable person in
Speaker 3: your life really on your baseball. Journey who is that.
Speaker 1: On my baseball? Journey would have to be my college,
Speaker 1: Coach Rick, jones BECAUSE i wouldn't even be in this,
Speaker 1: profession and THEN i had a chance to work for
Speaker 1: him for eight years At tulane and really see how
Speaker 1: to build a, program not just the baseball, stuff but
Speaker 1: just really how to build a. Program so he would
Speaker 1: be the one in my professional life and my personal.
Speaker 1: Life it would be my parents and my, children you,
Speaker 1: know my Son, jackson my Daughter, katie who've been like
Speaker 1: so supportive of this lifestyle as a coach from the
Speaker 1: time that you know they were born In tulane and
Speaker 1: all the way through UNLV Tcu Aggie land and now In.
Speaker 1: Austin So i've been very.
Speaker 3: Blessed, yeah that's, neat AND i get the sense you
Speaker 3: really wanted to share that one last one for me
Speaker 3: before we wrap it. Up you mentioned your. Kids what
Speaker 3: is being a? Parent how does being a parent help
Speaker 3: you as a head?
Speaker 1: Coach teaches you how to have empathy for the. Players you,
Speaker 1: know it's real, easy especially in this competitive environment to
Speaker 1: WHAT i would call AND i HAD i failed at,
Speaker 1: this especially younger in my younger coaching, days is you
Speaker 1: personalize the performance of the, player. Right in other, words
Speaker 1: Little johnny strikes, out and how can you strike?
Speaker 2: Out?
Speaker 1: Right, like, well he's not trying to strike. Out and
Speaker 1: if you can always kind of put it in perspective
Speaker 1: that that's somebody's. Child and then the other PERSPECTIVE i
Speaker 1: can give is my WHEN i was doing that student
Speaker 1: teaching in the spring of nineteen ninety two In North,
Speaker 1: CAROLINA i worked for an old football coach At Western
Speaker 1: Alamance High school and his name Was Mickey, brown And
Speaker 1: i'll never forget he pulled me in one day and he, said,
Speaker 1: BOY i want To i'm going to tell you something
Speaker 1: that you need to remember the rest of your. Life
Speaker 1: you can take the most, intelligent, sane level headed human
Speaker 1: being when it comes to their, child they're the most,
Speaker 1: insane out of touch of, reality crazy human they could possibly.
Speaker 1: Be give them some, grace. Right and so we've all
Speaker 1: seen the horror stories of parents going crazy at sporting,
Speaker 1: Events but in, general did you get back to your,
Speaker 1: question this is somebody's, child, Man and at the, end
Speaker 1: of the. Day my job is to help them, become you,
Speaker 1: know the best version of themselves as a in terms
Speaker 1: of their character and their leadership and and as a
Speaker 1: teammate and, uh you, KNOW i try to try to
Speaker 1: keep that in mind because that's HOW i would want
Speaker 1: my child to be. Treated.
Speaker 3: Right that's, Great that's so.
Speaker 2: Good, Hey, jim we thank you so much for joining
Speaker 2: us on from the dugout. Man good luck this. Weekend
Speaker 2: obviously a fun. Weekend you have a lot going on this,
Speaker 2: week so we appreciate you taking the.
Speaker 1: Time. Man, YEAH i appreciate you having make sure you
Speaker 1: Tell pedroya THAT i did two home busits with that
Speaker 1: guy to try to get him to go To. Tulane
Speaker 1: so little ped you, know he owes. Me but, no
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. ON a big fan of what
Speaker 1: you guys are. Doing glad you had the rocket. On
Speaker 1: we've got a Little longhorn. Connection he'll but all continue to. Go,
Speaker 1: well hook, Him.
Speaker 3: I'll GET i will, yeah hook, Him i'll. Give i'll
Speaker 3: give pedroy all the grief in the. World, slash thanks so.
Speaker 3: Much hope to see you At, omaha my. Friends thank.
Speaker 1: YOU i hope so.
Speaker 3: Too take Care the coach, Him Slas ageles of, course
Speaker 3: The Texas. Longhorns there's. Again we are striking gold with
Speaker 3: the guests that we've. Had the one Thing i've HEARD
Speaker 3: i think all four of them, say, though is make
Speaker 3: sure that the game stays. FUN i think they've all
Speaker 3: said that at some point during the course of our,
Speaker 3: shows AND i think again it's if all four of
Speaker 3: them are saying. It AND i can't wait for next
Speaker 3: week When Dusty baker is going to join. Us, Right
Speaker 3: dusty's our guest next, week, right? Correct, yep. Yep dusty's
Speaker 3: got millions and billions of stories and. Connections we're not
Speaker 3: going to prompt, him But i'll be interesting to be
Speaker 3: interesting to see if somehow he brings up most important, thing,
Speaker 3: man is to make sure that the players are having
Speaker 3: fun playing the.
Speaker 2: Game, yeah And, rebby you, know in working with The
Speaker 2: brewers organization and having a lot of conversations With Craig
Speaker 2: counsel and how he did it and how he managed
Speaker 2: and how he still does. It but even at that, level,
Speaker 2: MAN i don't think people realize the games that are.
Speaker 2: Involved so even in the day to, day the pregame
Speaker 2: stuff bp the things that they're doing they often accounts does,
Speaker 2: this AND i know a lot of other coaches that
Speaker 2: are managers that do this even at the big league.
Speaker 2: Level but they incorporate, games, Man they have systematic stuff
Speaker 2: that there's points for certain, things just to create an
Speaker 2: energy and a fun aspect of. It and all of
Speaker 2: that comes back to just having.
Speaker 1: Fun.
Speaker 2: Right they're trying to make it fun in the day to.
Speaker 2: Day so if they're doing that at the highest, levels
Speaker 2: we should certainly be having fun at the youth.
Speaker 1: Levels.
Speaker 2: Right so, yeah, man they ALL i, MEAN i think
Speaker 2: we hear that over and over, again but it's just
Speaker 2: such an important note and such an important, lesson.
Speaker 3: Man all, right just a great show, Again and want
Speaker 3: to remind everybody the platform is the parent. Dugout that's
Speaker 3: where you have to go the parent. Dugout become a
Speaker 3: teammate gets you live access from this, program dirt from the.
Speaker 3: Dugout you get to ask the. Questions we had some
Speaker 3: really good ones tonight recruiting confidentials on the. Lineup you
Speaker 3: can ask me or justin anything you. Want the clubhouse
Speaker 3: conversations allow you to engage with other baseball parents on their.
Speaker 3: Journey you can learn from the community and what they
Speaker 3: are dealing, with as well, videos written content from the
Speaker 3: best in. Baseball please join us at The Parent dugout
Speaker 3: and get a chance to listen To dirt from The
Speaker 3: dugout as well As baseball Recruiting. Confidential justin look forward
Speaker 3: to next week we'll Have Dusty baker. On great, Show,
Speaker 3: Buddy Thanks.
Speaker 2: Buddy