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Speaker 2: Countdown, presented by Ben mg the King of sports Books.

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Speaker 2: Not line from the ti iraq dot com Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio studios. Here's Brian no, Rich Hornberger and Jared Smith.

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Speaker 3: Oh what is going on? Welcome in here, Happy Saturday

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Speaker 3: to you. You know, uh, we gotta rip the band

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Speaker 3: aid right off?

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Speaker 4: Oh right, Yikesikes, that's it sounds so melodic until you

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Speaker 4: know Team USA loses and then it sounds just like I.

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Speaker 3: Actually like their anthem. You know, I don't mind their

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Speaker 3: anthem very I think it's a good I like it

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Speaker 3: as well. But yeah, how about this four Nations face off?

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Speaker 3: Good morning everybody, Good morning, Rich, Good morning, Jared, Good morning.

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Speaker 3: Everybody listening. But we just have to start here and

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Speaker 3: we'll get to basketball. There's a ton of hoops. There's

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Speaker 3: some football on the menu as well. You know, got

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Speaker 3: to have some football on the menu. You know, it's

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Speaker 3: like Thanksgiving meal if you don't have turkey, but you

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Speaker 3: don't have a Thanksgiving meal. Sorry, if we don't have

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Speaker 3: football in the show. We don't really have a show.

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Speaker 3: That's how it works out. It's three sixty five now,

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Speaker 3: but this four Nations face off. Canada beat the US

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Speaker 3: the other night three two in overtime. Connor McDavid with

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Speaker 3: the game winning goal. It's like a movie script. You

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Speaker 3: know where it was in Boston. They're avenging a defeat

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Speaker 3: from the previous game against the US. It was unbelievable

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Speaker 3: if you look at the tournament as a whole and

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Speaker 3: not just a championship game. Man, what a massive success.

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Speaker 3: You think this replaced the All Star Game? You know

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Speaker 3: what I mean? Like it replaced something that no one

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Speaker 3: cares about, and the championship game got around what ten

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Speaker 3: million people watching that thing. It was unbelievable. Shout out

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Speaker 3: to the NHL.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 3: They came up with an idea that was an absolute

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Speaker 3: banger right there. Brand slam for them.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, And it goes a long way to prove

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Speaker 6: what I think a lot of fans have been saying

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Speaker 6: for a long time. It's not our fault that we're

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Speaker 6: not watching your crummy All Star game.

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Speaker 5: Think of a better idea.

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Speaker 6: Try to find a way to get these players more

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Speaker 6: invested in what they're doing on the ice, or on

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Speaker 6: the court, or on the ballfield. You know, in terms

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Speaker 6: of baseball, I mean the Pro bowls awful too.

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Speaker 5: All of these have really struggled for.

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Speaker 6: A long time to captivate because they're meaningless and everybody

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Speaker 6: knows it. The players is especially, and that's the biggest problem,

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Speaker 6: because nobody wants to get hurt, nobody wants to try,

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Speaker 6: a result of that, you get situations like, for example,

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Speaker 6: in the NFL, Drake May is a pro bowler, you

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Speaker 6: know what I mean, because you don't even want to

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Speaker 6: you don't even want to play in the game. Or

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I I have a lot of problems with All Star

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Speaker 6: its ear. They've shifted the paradigm a little bit, and

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Speaker 6: now everybody else is playing catchup.

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Speaker 7: I mean, the ratings speak for themselves. At the PK

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Speaker 7: su Benz speech yesterday, like it.

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Speaker 3: All, what it did is it shine a light.

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Speaker 7: It was a mirror on what the current All Star

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Speaker 3: And really it's it. We can't really include.

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Speaker 7: Major League Baseball in this or the NFL. It's really

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Speaker 7: There is obviously some ground that we can come back

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Speaker 3: I think what the NHL did, and I heard the.

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Speaker 3: Imagine that happening in any.

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Speaker 7: Flip side in the NBA, it's like, yeah, you don't

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Speaker 7: So I think the NHL, because of the way that

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Speaker 3: Well, that's the question is how much does four nations

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Speaker 3: And And to me, I think it'll provide a boost.

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Speaker 3: how many people were watching the championship game somewhere around

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Speaker 3: It's an awesome sat Wait you mean they were betting

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Speaker 3: Yeah, think about that, all these people betting on the

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Speaker 3: what happened the previous year. That's what makes the NFL

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Speaker 6: Look when you go to Costco, one of your favorite things,

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Speaker 6: there to pick up women. It's the best place ever.

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Speaker 6: You're you're, you're that's awesome life story guy. You're You're

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Speaker 6: the the Mazzarelli stick wasn't too hotware burn the roof

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Speaker 6: to come home with me. That's what the All Star

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Speaker 6: These are our best of the best, This is the

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Speaker 5: Hey come on in.

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Speaker 6: You know, try try our French fried macaroni and cheese balls.

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Speaker 5: Oh you've never had them before? Wait till you give that.

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Speaker 5: That's the point.

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Speaker 6: That's the point is you're trying to capture the imaginations

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Speaker 5: And I completely agree with you, Brian.

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Speaker 6: I think that a lot of people who may have

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Speaker 5: Is fun, this is a thing.

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Speaker 6: And maybe it burns out right, maybe it's burning really

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Speaker 6: for everyone. And if you can slowly capture more and

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Speaker 6: more fans, well then you're doing the right thing for

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Speaker 6: your product. And again going back to actually, I'll cite

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Speaker 6: up to us to decide. You can't tell me what

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Speaker 6: guess what if you're I don't know if you're you're

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Speaker 6: figure out what's wrong with your free samples. If you

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Speaker 6: a better burger or at least market your burger shot better.

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Speaker 6: Don't come to us the fan and say, hey, it's

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Speaker 6: your fault for not watching us. We're doing it great. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 6: you need to captivate us. You need to give us

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Speaker 7: It's just the timing of it, like we've never had

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Speaker 3: It's a tough lot.

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Speaker 7: And I think the fact that they were so in

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Speaker 3: No doubt it is it. It reminds me you talk

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Speaker 3: you know what. Tape it up, tape it up. Let's

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Speaker 3: the right way to go, But man, you talk about guts,

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Speaker 3: you know, you talk about guts. It's taken the under

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Speaker 3: they cannot defend. Here we go and the total is

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Speaker 3: one seventy nine and a half. Man Bama is favored

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Speaker 3: by ten and a half in this one. Right, Kentucky's

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Speaker 5: Rich?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know if I I don't know if

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Speaker 6: I could be on Bama side for this one. Kentucky

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Speaker 5: And also, to your point, taking the under, I bool.

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Speaker 5: But then you also have moments where.

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Speaker 5: Even like plus six. I mean, I'll take the points.

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Speaker 7: M Yeah, this is a This is one of those

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Speaker 7: and I don't have my Yeah, the usual database that

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Speaker 3: Know that far. So, but I mean, this is a

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Speaker 7: they scored ninety eight points, Like how many college basketball

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Speaker 7: They might not win the tournament, but they are the

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Speaker 3: And then you've got Bama, who's like this shooting star.

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Speaker 7: it's a gigantic number. But how can you lay ten

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Speaker 7: end of story. I'm not laying double digits with this

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Speaker 3: ten as far as defensive efficiency is concerned, and they're

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00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 3: one and two in the se so in terms of

438
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 3: points per game allowed. So you go from the yin

439
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 3: which is Kentucky Alabama, to the yang, which is Tennessee

440
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 3: and Texas A and M. Because if you want to

441
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 3: see a lot more defense and maybe a lot more

442
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 3: rock fighting, if you will Tennessee, Texas A and M.

443
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 3: That's your speed, that's what you want to go with

444
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 3: the total is one thirty and a half compared to

445
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 3: Kentucky and Alabama, which is one seventy nine and a half.

446
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 3: So just a little bit of a disparity. They're playing

447
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 3: the same sport.

448
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 6: By the way, Yeah, it's so crazy, and that that's

449
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 6: such a good thing to point out, Jared, because you know,

450
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 6: it only really happens in college basketball when you see

451
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 6: such wildly vastly different different I guess you could say

452
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:54,640
Speaker 6: constructions of rosters and play styles where you'll you'll have

453
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 6: one team scoring in the seventies and consistently winning, and

454
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 6: then one team scoring in the one tens to one

455
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 6: thirties and consistently winning.

456
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 5: It doesn't really make sense that.

457
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 6: These two these two teams can exist in the same sport,

458
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 6: but they can, and I guess college football can at

459
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 6: times mimic this. I remember, you know, there was a

460
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 6: time where you had the gun slingers out of the

461
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 6: Big twelve zero defense was being played. Everybody was getting

462
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 6: to the air raid offense, and so it looked very

463
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 6: different than say Big ten football at that time.

464
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 5: But I digress.

465
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 6: With college basketball, I guess where I always land. When

466
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 6: you start comparing games like these, you know Tennessee, Texas

467
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 6: A and m Kentucky Alabama.

468
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 5: What style of play.

469
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 6: Do you think What type of play do you think

470
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 6: is more tournament ready, the hot transition team or the

471
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 6: great half court offense or the lockdown we are going

472
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 6: to guard you from inbound on the baseline until you're

473
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 6: you're under your own hoop, Like, what is the better

474
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 6: style to get you deeper in March?

475
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 3: I think it's defense, because totally in March, you're tight,

476
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 3: you know, like this is your season on the line.

477
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 3: You're amped up to the nth degree, so you might

478
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 3: not even be guarded, and it's hard to make an

479
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 3: open shot. And so if the other team is defending,

480
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 3: on top of it just being difficult to begin with

481
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 3: to score points. Yeah, playing lockdown defense is a huge

482
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 3: asset for these teams in March, I agree.

483
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 7: And also the interesting part about this game, so this

484
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 7: game kind of reminds me of the meat grinder that

485
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 7: Ornberger uses for his ports shoulder, Like that's how that's

486
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 7: kind of how I would characterize this game compared to

487
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 7: the other game, which is a little bit more floaty,

488
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 7: a little more you know, angelic wings. Everyone's riding around

489
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 7: a and M's a tough I don't know where I

490
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 7: got that from, Like, don't even ask me. A and

491
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 7: M was a tough watch in the second half agains

492
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 7: Mississippi State Earlier this week.

493
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 3: I actually was on A and M.

494
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 7: I thought it was one of those rock fight games

495
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 7: where you're getting three points with a road team in

496
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 7: the SEC, it's going to be a close game.

497
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 3: It wasn't.

498
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 7: Mississippi State just blew them, you know, blew them out

499
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 7: of the water in the second half. And there's two

500
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 7: factors there. A. It is tough on the road in

501
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 7: the SEC. Like that's why, Like, if you want to

502
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 7: make the case for Bama to win by twenty today,

503
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 7: it's because the SEC on the road is just tough

504
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 7: and the games get out of hand. On the other

505
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 7: side of that, for both of these teams, A and

506
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 7: M tennessee, like they both kind of like to do

507
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 7: the same thing. They like to get on the glass,

508
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 7: they like to get to the line. They like to

509
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 7: play defense. Like that's how their offenses.

510
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,479
Speaker 3: Get, you know, going. It's not a jump shooting kind

511
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 3: of game.

512
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 7: But the interesting part about A and M is last

513
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,959
Speaker 7: year they made a nice run in the attorney and

514
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 7: they almost upset Houston in the round to thirty two.

515
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 7: That game was nuts over time, one hundred and ninety five.

516
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 7: Then they dropped ninety eight on nebrask in the A

517
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 7: round of sixty four and in the SEC tournament ninety

518
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 7: seven against Florida, eighty against Ole Miss like like, So

519
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 7: my point being for A and M, for a team

520
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 7: that usually relies on their grit and their termination and they're,

521
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 7: you know, hustle in the tournament, they switched it up

522
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 7: and they threw a curveball and they let way Taylor

523
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 7: run the show and play a little more tempo and

524
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 7: kind of run and done. So when you get to

525
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 7: this part in the year when all of a sudden,

526
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 7: everyone's expecting you to just slow it down, grind it out,

527
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 7: and then all of a sudden you play fast. Buzz

528
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 7: Williams has the ability to change tempos, and I think

529
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 7: that's where A and M might have a little bit

530
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 7: of an advantage here in this game. And that's why

531
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 7: the numbers flip, that's why Tennessee opened to favorite, and

532
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 7: I think that's why A and M now is getting

533
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 7: close to a three point favorite at home, because I

534
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 7: do think we're in that Buzz Williams kind of good

535
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 7: coach territory where he knows he's got to throw a

536
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 7: curveball today, because you're not just gonna bludge in Tennessee.

537
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 7: You're not just gonna get on the glass and out

538
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 7: rebound and out muscle Tennessee. You've got to have to

539
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 7: show them something differently in order to win this game.

540
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 7: And I wouldn't be shocked if we see Buzz Williams, hey,

541
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 7: maybe throttle up a little bit today. So as much

542
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 7: as I think this is an underkind of vibe, I'm

543
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 7: not betting the under in this game because I think

544
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 7: Texas A and M's best version of basketball is when

545
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 7: they let Way Taylor be a little bit more Alabama

546
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 7: like with how they run the show on offense.

547
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 3: And Wade Taylor is so good, fantastic. He is a

548
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 3: tremendous guard man. He's fun to watch. He'll get you

549
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 3: big buckets, he can shoot it. He is a really

550
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 3: really good player. So I like that breakdown, Jared, very

551
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 3: good stuff. You speak of a curveball, you know, like

552
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 3: Texas A and M could throw a curveball at you

553
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, it's like running gun. You're

554
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 3: like they've turned into the Phoenix Sun seven seconds or last.

555
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 3: What's going on out here?

556
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 5: Right?

557
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: But there was a curveball thrown at an NBA team,

558
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 3: which was the San Antonio Spurs. With wem Bin Yama

559
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 3: being out for the entire season, I'm curious what your

560
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 3: thoughts are on this story. So he's down for the

561
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 3: rest of the year. He's got a blood clot in

562
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 3: his right shoulder. So first things first, hopefully he's completely fine,

563
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 3: heels good to go going forward. But man, one of

564
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 3: the aspects was the betting market with the futures. There

565
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 3: was a tweet that was put out there that was like, yeah,

566
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 3: I just dropped ten k on Wendy Yama to win

567
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Year. Only an act of God

568
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 3: could derail this one. I'm pair of that real. I

569
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 3: it seems real. I don't know, But then an hour

570
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 3: later it's like, what have I done?

571
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 5: What is it?

572
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 3: But Wemby he's not going to play in at least

573
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 3: sixty five games and that's the threshold, that's the benchmark

574
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 3: you have to hit in the NBA now to be

575
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 3: eligible for these regular season awards. So he's not even

576
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 3: eligible to win Defensive Player of the Year. And of

577
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 3: course this was putting in play because of load management,

578
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 3: the big load management craze. So Adam Silver, let it go,

579
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 3: let it go. And now he's trying to, you know,

580
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 3: go back the other way, and he came up with

581
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 3: this rule where you have to play at least sixty

582
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 3: five games. And in essence, it seems to make sense

583
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 3: until something like this, the situation where Wemby gets hurt.

584
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 3: He's clearly the defensive Player of the year, probably still

585
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 3: would be the Defensive Player of the Year even missing

586
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 3: a chunk of games, but he's not eligible to win

587
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 3: this award. What do you think about the sixty five

588
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 3: game threshold. I don't like it. What do you guys

589
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: think about it?

590
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 5: Well, first, let me say this.

591
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 6: What I think the webiny i'm An injury does for

592
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 6: the Spurs is it completely shifts their offseason plans. I mean,

593
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 6: as it stands, they're out of the postseason looking in,

594
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 6: and I mean even the playing tournament. You know, you

595
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 6: look at what the Spurs are trying to build. It

596
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 6: seems like they're trying to build around Wemby, and why not.

597
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 6: He's one of the brightest young basketball stars on the

598
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 6: planet right now. My thought process is this is the

599
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 6: worst of the best news or the best of the

600
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 6: worst news.

601
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 5: You never wish something like this on somebody.

602
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 6: You don't want a situation where you know they're struggling

603
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 6: with something that who knows, maybe could have life consequences,

604
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 6: not just basketball consequences. So, like you started this segment, Brian,

605
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 6: I hope he makes a full recovery and never has

606
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 6: to worry about a blood clot again in his entire life,

607
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 6: because that's scary stuff.

608
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 5: However, I will say this if if he is cleared

609
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 5: to play, and.

610
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 6: He's one hundred percent healthy, and life is looking good

611
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 6: and basketball is looking great for Wemby like it has

612
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 6: been well, all of.

613
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 5: A sudden, the Spurs look like a lottery team.

614
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 6: And if they can add and continue to build this

615
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 6: roster with a star like Wemby, look out, the Spurs

616
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 6: could be one of the more dangerous teams if they

617
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 6: hit again in basketball next season or potentially, you know,

618
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 6: create something that I don't want to say dynasty. I

619
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 6: don't want to like get you know, way too far

620
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 6: over my skis. But think about how Golden State was built.

621
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 6: It was over the course of a couple of drafts

622
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 6: where they really put together the core and then they

623
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 6: were able to go on a run against Lebron and

624
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 6: the Calves and and then add KD later on and

625
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 6: continue their success.

626
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 5: So this this could be a.

627
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 6: Really add short term picture for the Spurs, but over

628
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 6: the long run may potentially benefit them.

629
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, obviously the situation deep vein thrombosis. That's it's not

630
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 7: like an ankle sprain, like like this is this is

631
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 7: something that you know, we hope we're hearing.

632
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 3: It's not going to be a long term thing.

633
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 7: But when you first get that news, the reaction besides

634
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 7: that poor better who I'm again, I'm not one hundred

635
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 7: percent sure if that's real, and I hope it's not.

636
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 3: Because it's a terrible way to lose a bet.

637
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 7: But like other than the initial gambling reaction, like the

638
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 7: first gut reaction I had was, oh my goodness, like

639
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 7: blood clot like this is supposed to be like Wemby,

640
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 7: I would put the over under on his future MVP

641
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 7: total it maybe like three, like this is a guy

642
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 7: that we expect to be a multi MVP winner down

643
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 7: the road, Like please be okay, the Spurs need you

644
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 7: now that we've gotten that, you know, initial reaction, then

645
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 7: the gambling reaction kind of comes in and yeah, like

646
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 7: the Spurs to make the playoffs was it was a

647
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 7: bet that a lot of people want it. It was

648
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 7: like two it was like plus one fifty for them

649
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 7: to kind of sneak into the play in. You know,

650
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 7: they got some tough teams in front of them. And

651
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 7: then the Defensive Player of the Year market, which has

652
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,959
Speaker 7: completely been thrown on its head. I think lou Dort

653
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 7: for I think a thunder deserves to win that award now,

654
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 7: a thunder player because like you go from the best

655
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 7: defensive player in the league, obviously it's Wemby. He was

656
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 7: like minus three thousand to win the award. Then now

657
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 7: you knock him off the board. Where do we go, Well,

658
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 7: Jared Jackson's the favorite right now, like he's won it.

659
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 7: It's it's not it's not really a sexy story. Then

660
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 7: you get to Evan Mobile, who I do think is

661
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 7: the best defensive player left in the field. I think

662
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 7: he deserves to be the favorite. He's not right now,

663
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 7: by the way. At bet MGM he's plus one twenty five.

664
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 7: Then you get lou Dort, Dyson Daniels. I think he's

665
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 7: a throwaway on the Hawks. Then you get SGA and

666
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 7: jay Len Williams, so it's I don't think it's a

667
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 7: surprise that three out of the top six guys on

668
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 7: the board are Oklahoma City Thunder players. They have a

669
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 7: historically good defense this year. So again we're handicapping the voters,

670
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 7: not the your opinion on the players. If I'm a

671
00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 7: voter and Wenby the knockdown favorite gets gets a litleminated,

672
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 7: I am giving it to a player on the best

673
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 7: defensive team in the NBA.

674
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 3: So Lou Dort makes sense right the Dorcher Chamber.

675
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 7: But I think SGA has a case too because of

676
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 7: the seasons he's had offensively. But I think Dort's gonna

677
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 7: win it. I honestly think it's dord mobile. Those are

678
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 7: the two guys I would be positioning for right now

679
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 7: in the market.

680
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll ask again, and I want a straight answer. Okay,

681
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 3: what do you think about the sixty five game threshold? Okay,

682
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 3: I don't care about it. I think are you building

683
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 3: that good? I want to know what you think about that. Okay,

684
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 3: So think about this because there are layers to it,

685
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 3: like in essence, it makes sense. You don't want guys

686
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 3: to be taking nights off left and right. Okay, fine,

687
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 3: but what if there's a legitimate injury and you're not

688
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 3: eligible to win Defensive Player of the Year. What if

689
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 3: Wemby played exactly sixty four games and he's clearly the

690
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 3: defensive Player of the Year and he's not eligible to

691
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 3: win that award. What if you're in line to be

692
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 3: on an All NBA team but you don't play enough

693
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: games and you're not eligible, and that could have a

694
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 3: direct effect on your contract, and that could leave thirty

695
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: million dollars on the table. That's a huge thing. So

696
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 3: I get why it's there in place, but this shows

697
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 3: how it can blow up in your face. And that

698
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 3: part of it is interesting to me.

699
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 6: I get where you're where you're coming from, But durability

700
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 6: is your most important ability. And I hate this for

701
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 6: wemben Yama because this is one of those things where

702
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 6: it's not like, you know, man Wemby was out partying

703
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 6: too much and he wasn't in good shape, and so

704
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 6: he broke down early in the season, and then you

705
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 6: know that that whatever, you know, that hamstring pull really

706
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 6: affected the rest of his his uh, you know, his

707
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 6: defensive quality for the rest of the season. It wasn't

708
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 6: that like ween Yama is doing everything right. He just

709
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 6: had this situation come up. But you know, I mean,

710
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 6: if you are the fastest man on the planet, but

711
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 6: every single time you're you're qualifying for an Olympics or

712
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 6: a World Championships, you know, you come up with a

713
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 6: calf stream or you know your your quadricep is two

714
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 6: tight so he can't run, or you have a hip

715
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 6: flex or tear or whatever, and you you never showcase

716
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 6: that speed. Nobody is ever gonna put your name in

717
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 6: the record books, even if you have been you know, man,

718
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 6: he runs close to a nine to one hundred, and

719
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 6: it's like, well, we've never seen him do it like it.

720
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 6: If you want to win awards, you gotta be on

721
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 6: the court. I remember my my rookie season in the NFL.

722
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 6: We had a player on the New England Patriots name

723
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 6: Adelias Thomas.

724
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 5: He came over from the Ravens.

725
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 6: He was a pretty good defensive playge' miss yeah, better

726
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 6: better for the Ravens than he was for us, but

727
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 6: still a really good linebacker. And I remember when I

728
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 6: was I had injured myself running the conditioning test, and

729
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 6: I mean I was in fine shape. I just had

730
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 6: a freak one off handy pull and he goes, you

731
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 6: can't make the club and the tub scrub. As he's

732
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 6: walking through the training room. It's stuck with me, and

733
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 6: he's one hundred percent right. He was one hundred percent right.

734
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 6: You know you can, you can be a great basketball player.

735
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 6: But if you're not actually defending players on the court.

736
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 6: I mean, then the award you go to somebody else.

737
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 7: I agree, And and I think the short answer is

738
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 7: durability is your is your greatest availability? Like I think

739
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 7: that is to me, the the calling card of a

740
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 7: season long award. So I'm okay with the sixty five.

741
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 7: Maybe you lower to sixty, but I'm okay with that number.

742
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

743
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 5: I don't know.

744
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 3: Because again, if you got right to sixty four, what

745
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 3: are the odds the year sixty four, that's just weird

746
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 3: to me.

747
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 7: But like forty nine, he's not right like and and

748
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 7: if he if he had it at sixty four, I

749
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 7: think it's a fair discussion.

750
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Uh we got rich Oornberger, Penn State

751
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 3: All American, Jared Smith FSR Betting analyst, I'm Brian know.

752
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,720
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753
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:07,480
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754
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 3: will have the opportunity to win a share of fifty

755
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 3: thousand dollars in bonus bets if their player scores the

756
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 3: most three pointers on that Sunday. All you have to

757
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 3: do is opt into the Sunday Splash Jackpot promotion and

758
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:28,160
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759
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,160
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760
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,200
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761
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,879
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762
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 3: a share of fifty thousand dollars in bonus bets. Pretty

763
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 3: cool stuff, all right? Coming up next the par lay platter.

764
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 3: We'll see what's going on with this thing. Jared will

765
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 3: lay it out for us. Coming up next, it is

766
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,160
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767
00:37:55,160 --> 00:38:00,839
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768
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,680
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769
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,800
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770
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 3: ever bet on your favorite player to score the first

771
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 3: field goal only to see him make an assist to

772
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 3: his teammate for an easy layup. Well, with bet MGM

773
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 3: second Chance, you'll get your stake back in cash if

774
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,280
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775
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,959
Speaker 5: All right, let's do this check this out r lay letter.

776
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 3: All right, Jared, it's your territory here. What do we

777
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 3: have cooking with the platter today? We won last week.

778
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 3: I just want to put that out there. We hit

779
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 3: our parlay platter last week.

780
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 7: It was a two to one shot moneyline parlay all

781
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 7: three favorites. I mean, can we hit two in a row?

782
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 7: I don't think I've ever in the three years in

783
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 7: the show, I ever hit two in a row. Let's

784
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 7: try to right now. Let's start with Vermont the Catamounts.

785
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 7: This is around the time that Vermont starts playing championship basketball.

786
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 7: They're a four and a half point home favorite today

787
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 7: against U Mass Lowell. Vermont's won the Americas Tournament. They've

788
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 7: been in the NCAA Turner the last three years. They're

789
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 7: not as talented as they've been in years past, but

790
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 7: they have plenty of experience.

791
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 3: They play great defense. Slow tempo.

792
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 7: They held Briant, who's a really good team this year,

793
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 7: to fifty five in their last game, just six assists

794
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 7: on twenty mid field goals. Again a grinder kind of game.

795
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 7: I think U mass lowl. They're in their head. They've

796
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 7: lost six straight to Vermont, including two straight America East titles.

797
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 7: Vermont minus one ninety first leg of the money Line

798
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 7: Parlay high Point big favor today about an eight and

799
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 7: a half point road favorite. High Point is really playing

800
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 7: good basketball right now. They've won nine straight first place

801
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 7: in the Big South. They're a top sixty five team

802
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 7: in torvic over the last month.

803
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 3: Shooting it really well.

804
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 7: They're facing Gardner Web today who's terrible on defense. They've

805
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 7: given up at least seventy eight points in the sixth

806
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 7: straight game. So I think high Point gets a big

807
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 7: win today. And finally, Portland State on the road tonight

808
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 7: at Weaver State. About a three point favorite. This is

809
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 7: mostly a fade of weaver State, who's outside the top

810
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 7: three hundred in like every category.

811
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 3: I love Portland.

812
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 7: State a sneaky starch madness sleeper.

813
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 3: What is starch madness?

814
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 7: That is the conference turn The Big Sky plays in

815
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 7: Boise you can't wait for that Vermont high Point Portland State.

816
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 7: How about the mid major trio today? It's plus two

817
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 7: ten over at bet MGM.

818
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 3: What do we think guys? Who ruins it?

819
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 6: Definitely not Portland State. Yeah, Weaver is way down the board.

820
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 6: I was just looking on Torvik.

821
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 5: Yeah that is that. Yeah.

822
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 3: I love the parlays where you might go one in

823
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 3: two naming the nicknames, you know what I mean, Like

824
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 3: Hagar might be one into coming up Vegs. This proposal

825
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 3: has me seeing red. Oh, good morning, Happy Saturday to you.

826
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 5: You know.

827
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 3: You hear this in sports all the time. Self scouting.

828
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 3: You know, you gotta know your own tendencies, gotta know

829
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 3: uh what your opponent might expect and where you're vulnerable,

830
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 3: that sort of thing. If I self scout myself, Yeah,

831
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 3: I can be a mania from time to time. You know,

832
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 3: I can get unnecessarily amped up for no great reason.

833
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: And so I say that because this next story has

834
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 3: the full potential to really amp me up. Okay, the

835
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 3: college football playoff format is being If you want to

836
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 3: go with a nice word tweaked, If you want to

837
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 3: go with a direct word, you could go with like

838
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 3: or phrase like screwed. Up royally. Okay, like what they're

839
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 3: talking about all these automatic qualifying spots. So the Big

840
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 3: Ten is really pushing for this. They're thinking about expanding

841
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 3: the college football playoff from twelve teams to fourteen teams. Okay,

842
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 3: all right, I don't hate it yet, but what they're

843
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 3: looking at are all these automatic qualifying spots. So the

844
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 3: Big Ten would get four automatic spots, the SEC would

845
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 3: also get for automatic spots. Big twelve acc they would

846
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 3: get two teams a piece. There would be the highest

847
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 3: ranked group of five champion, and then one at large spot.

848
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 3: So let me get this straight. We're going from a

849
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 3: twelve team playoff with seven at large spots to fourteen

850
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 3: teams with one at large spot. That's what they're talking

851
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 3: about doing. I can't express to you how much I

852
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: despise this idea, because there are going to be years

853
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 3: where a conference wouldn't have one of its teams in

854
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 3: the playoff except for the fact that they automatically qualify,

855
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 3: and I just hate that. That goes against the essence

856
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: of college football. If you want to have an automatic

857
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 3: qualifier for the conference champ okay, fine, if you want

858
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 3: to have an automatic qualifier for the one group of

859
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 3: five champion. All right, I'm cool with top five automatic qualifiers,

860
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 3: but beyond that, earn your way in. Be one of

861
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 3: the top ranked teams and earn your way in. I

862
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 3: don't know what this is where the conferences went guarantees

863
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 3: and maybe the playoff committee they they don't want to

864
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 3: be text with the decisions, Oh my gosh, the unbearable

865
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 3: decisions of I don't know, deciding which team should be

866
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 3: in and which team shouldn't. That comes with the territory.

867
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 3: But I just hate the idea of automatic qualifiers. And

868
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: there are going to be years where teams qualify for

869
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: the playoff if this is the new format, and they

870
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 3: wouldn't qualify otherwise. I just absolutely despise that.

871
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I get it.

872
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 6: It feels a little bit anti sport, doesn't it. It

873
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 6: feels a little bit like instead of a meritocracy, you're

874
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 6: having a situation where you know, because you have been

875
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 6: grandfathered into or you've been added to one of these

876
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 6: mega conferences, you have a better opportunity to make it

877
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 6: than teams who aren't.

878
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 5: It's it's frustrating, but.

879
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 6: I will say this, and expanded playoff format in just

880
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 6: about any form or fashion. And I don't want to

881
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 6: say any because obviously I would find I find this

882
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 6: one disagreeable, but I would find many different iterations more disagreeable.

883
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 6: So I guess where I land on this is. I'm

884
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 6: not as mad as you, Brian. I'm disappointed that money

885
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 6: is the driving force here that when you really start

886
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 6: to look at who has control of college football.

887
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 5: It's not the n C two A. It's definitely not

888
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 5: the players.

889
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 6: It's more the school presidents and athletic directors and administrators

890
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 6: and big money donors at the biggest schools in the

891
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 6: biggest conferences who are pushing these these networks into into

892
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 6: exerting their force on commissioners and conferences and teams, and

893
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 6: and they're saying, hey, you, this is a take it

894
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 6: or leave a deal. You know you you need to

895
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 6: make sure that this gets done so that we all

896
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 6: you know, and I'm using air quotes because I'm not

897
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 6: one hundred percent sure what we all encompasses make as

898
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 6: much money as we possibly can. But that is the

899
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 6: driving force behind all of this. It's it's money. It's

900
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 6: the dollar bill. And this, at least for now in

901
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 6: the short run, it sounds like this is going to

902
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 6: benefit the most people and put money into the deepest pockets.

903
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 5: And that's what it's always been.

904
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I agree with you, Brian, like it's it's

905
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 3: it's weird.

906
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 7: It's definitely it's like a hostile takeover of the sport.

907
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 7: The reason that I'm not going to be up in

908
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 7: arms about it is because this is it's going to

909
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 7: change again in a year probably or in two years.

910
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 7: So be comfortable being uncomfortable. We've said this for the

911
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 7: last two years. In this college football landscape, we need

912
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 7: to remove the this is how it's done, So this

913
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 7: is how it's going to be done future vibe, because

914
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 7: we have no idea where we are and what this

915
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 7: new landscape is going to look like. This is another step,

916
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 7: albeit a small one, towards the power conference vibe of

917
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 7: these two conferences run the sport and that's just the

918
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 7: way it is, and I think we're going to continue

919
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 7: to see absorption of teams in these two conferences.

920
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 3: I think the end result is this two.

921
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 7: Conference system like we have in the NFL, where there's

922
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 7: the haves and the have nots, and everyone's that's in

923
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 7: the two conferences. You've got a chance to compete for

924
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 7: the championship and the people who are out that's just

925
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 7: the way it and I'm not saying I like it,

926
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,479
Speaker 7: but this is just the direction that it's been going

927
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 7: in for the last two years. So who am I

928
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 7: to fight it? Because we can't fight it. This is

929
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 7: where this is where the money is. These are the

930
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 7: teams that are the best teams in the sport. They're

931
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 7: obviously the most prolific programs. And we're gonna continue to

932
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 7: see changes over the next few years until this thing

933
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 7: gets sorted out. So while we could be up in

934
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 7: arms about this new little wrinkle that we might see,

935
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 7: it's probably gonna change again in a year or two.

936
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 5: Right.

937
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 3: But how that's the thing, no idea. Once there are

938
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 3: automatic qualityying spots, those aren't going away. Once the Big

939
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 3: ten and the SEC who hold the power, once they

940
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 3: have the bulk of those automatic qualifying spots, they're not

941
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 3: giving that up, you know, they're not giving up that territory.

942
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 3: And that's the problem, man, is a lot of these conferences,

943
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 3: the ones with power, Big ten SEC, they're not worried

944
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 3: about what's best for the college football landscape. They're not

945
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 3: reasonable about it. They're out for them. They're out for

946
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 3: themselves and it sucks like it would be. You mentioned

947
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 3: the NFL, Jared. Imagine if the NFL, and this is

948
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 3: not a apples to apples comparison, but just for the

949
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 3: sake of argument, right, Imagine if they said, okay, let's

950
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 3: take the seven playoff spots. Pick a conference. Let's say

951
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 3: the NFC. We've got seven playoff spots. The top four

952
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 3: those are all division winners, okay, and then normally the

953
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 3: wildcard spots those would be at large spots. You earn

954
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 3: your way in with the best record. But instead we're

955
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 3: going to have an automatic qualifier from the NFC North

956
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 3: because that's a really tough time vision, and also the

957
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 3: NFC East because that's a pretty quality division. Well, what

958
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 3: happens if three years from now a team gets an

959
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 3: automatic spot and they don't freaking deserve it, you know

960
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: what I mean? Like, we can't go from twelve teams

961
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 3: and seven at large spots to fourteen teams and one

962
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 3: one at large spot. Everybody else is just just plug

963
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 3: them in right there, automatic spot, just get in there.

964
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 3: I don't like that at all, man, I don't. And

965
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 3: it doesn't make it as interesting. It's interesting when you

966
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 3: got a bunch of seats, right, this is musical chairs.

967
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 3: There are Last year there were seven seats, and all

968
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 3: these teams were trying to sit on the chair when

969
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 3: the music stopped and earn a playoff spot. And we

970
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 3: go from that to one one chair, and then all

971
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 3: these teams that aren't in line for an automatic qualifying spot,

972
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 3: all of them are vying for that one chair and

973
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 3: that one bid. I don't like it at all at all.

974
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 3: And I hate the idea of teams being in the

975
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 3: tournament that don't deserve to be in the playoff but

976
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 3: they're there just because they have an automatic spot. That

977
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 3: flies right in the face of the essence of college football.

978
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 3: It sucks and it's not gonna go away. Yeah, granted

979
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 3: there might be different iterations going forward, but once we

980
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 3: go down this automatic qualifier road, we're not getting off

981
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 3: that freeway. It's not happening anytime soon afterward.

982
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 6: Well, and what it's gonna do is it's gonna the

983
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 6: tail is gonna wag the dog. So the postseason obviously

984
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 6: is kind of the cherry on top. Because of the

985
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 6: urgency of the regular season in college football, you have

986
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 6: you have this great opportunity for a postseason, you have

987
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 6: a limited supply of regular season games. All of those

988
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 6: weeks are super important. Everybody's aware of that. But at

989
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 6: the end of the day, all these players who are

990
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 6: recruits or potential transfers, now with the portal window being

991
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 6: wide open, you have to get to the postseason. You

992
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 6: gotta get to the dance like you gotta find a way.

993
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 6: And for certain teams, the only way to get, you know,

994
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 6: a realistic shot, is leaving their conference and joining another one.

995
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 6: And I think that's essentially what the Big Ten and

996
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,439
Speaker 6: the SEC want. If they had their druthers, they would

997
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 6: be the only two conferences left that they would completely

998
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 6: kneecap the A see see.

999
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 5: The Big Twelve.

1000
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 6: They would create almost like a North South, you know,

1001
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 6: or maybe through realignment they can make it look that

1002
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 6: way or an East West if they wanted to and

1003
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 6: and make things a little bit more logistically easier on

1004
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 6: teams within their conference. Or they could they could separate

1005
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 6: into divisions. Who knows what it'll look like when they

1006
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 6: get to their endgame, but that's what.

1007
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 5: This feels like. It feels like we're hurtling toward a

1008
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 5: pretty certain future.

1009
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 6: And these these guarantees given to these conferences that that's

1010
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 6: what suggests it to me. And again, it all comes

1011
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 6: back to money, like I was saying earlier, and that's fine,

1012
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,720
Speaker 6: we know how the world works. But in the meantime,

1013
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 6: it's anti sport, and so the only way it's going

1014
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 6: to get back to looking like a real bracket, unfortunately,

1015
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 6: is when all the needs or close to all the

1016
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 6: needs of these super conferences are met, and if the

1017
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 6: future shapes out that way, we'll have something that more

1018
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 6: closely resembles, I don't know, a playoff bracket like we

1019
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 6: have in college basketball, which obviously is a much better

1020
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 6: system than what we currently have in college football.

1021
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1022
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 7: I wish I had a great answer for you guys. Honestly,

1023
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 7: I wish I could cook this thing up. But I

1024
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 7: think the end result is going to be the same.

1025
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 7: We're going to have two major conferences in the sport.

1026
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 7: I think eventually, if you want to be really considered

1027
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 7: to have a chance to really make the CFP, the

1028
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 7: goal should be to be in one of those conferences.

1029
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 7: And I'm not saying I like it. I don't like it.

1030
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 7: I don't like the heaviness to that because it really

1031
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 7: does eliminate a lot of the beauty of sport. But

1032
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 7: this is just the direction that it's going. Like college

1033
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 7: football is not like the teams that are not in

1034
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 7: that power group, you're not winning the championship anyways. Like honestly,

1035
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 7: and I know that sounds crazy, but if you go

1036
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 7: to a sixteen team field and you have to win

1037
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 7: four games to win it, Colorado last year, like Arizona

1038
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 7: State last year, like those teams aren't SMU last year.

1039
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 7: Those teams are not winning four games in this format.

1040
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 7: So I think there is a certain level of inevitability

1041
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 7: to we need to get to this point so we

1042
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 7: can shake out the haves and the have nots, and

1043
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 7: the teams that are really serious about spending on their

1044
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 7: college football program, we'll find a.

1045
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 3: Way to get into the SEC or the Big Ten,

1046
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 3: and the.

1047
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 7: Teams that aren't serious are just gonna kind of fall

1048
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 7: off to the wayside. And I know that sounds really harsh,

1049
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 7: but that is just the direction that the sport is going.

1050
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 7: So I could scream till I'm blue in the face

1051
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 7: that we're not doing enough to protect the little guy.

1052
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 7: But the little guy, if they want to be a

1053
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 7: big guy, they got to set you know, step up

1054
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 7: to the Playton spend and if they step up to

1055
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 7: the Playton spend money, and that's honestly all it takes today,

1056
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 7: you could become You can go from a just wait

1057
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 7: for we do the college off season previews when we

1058
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 7: talk about Texas Tech and what they're doing and the

1059
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 7: investment they're making in their program, trying to become one

1060
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 7: of those big guys in a bad conference. If you

1061
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 7: invest money, you can ascend to that level. But if

1062
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 7: you're not willing to pony up the dough, who are

1063
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 7: we to say, yeah, let's come on, let's protect the

1064
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 7: little guy. Like we have gone away from the little

1065
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 7: guy mentality. College football is not about the little guy anymore.

1066
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 7: You better spend because if you don't spend, you're gonna

1067
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 7: be left behind.

1068
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I just the spending thing. I'll just say

1069
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 3: real fast. We'll get to Seamus McGee here momentarily. But

1070
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 3: it's just funny in a way because there's so money hungry.

1071
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 3: Like money it is, it's at the heart of pretty

1072
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 3: much all of these decisions.

1073
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 5: Right ye.

1074
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 3: And it's funny because college football was marketed for so

1075
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 3: many years of that they don't make any money, right,

1076
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 3: It's it's for the name on the front of the jersey,

1077
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 3: not the name on the back of the jersey. You know,

1078
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 3: it's team. It's not me. And and all these conferences

1079
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 3: are about me, like these schools are about me, These

1080
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 3: conferences are about me, SEC and the Big Ten leading

1081
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 3: the way. It's all me, me, me, me me. It's

1082
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 3: all money, money man, ah rash, Yes, that's what it's

1083
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 3: turned into. It and it's completely different than the essence

1084
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 3: of what it was for so many years. And listen,

1085
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 3: I get it, I get it. You want to make

1086
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 3: a buck. There's nothing fundamentally wrong, there's nothing automatically wrong

1087
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 3: with that. But when it becomes this and we're like, yeah,

1088
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 3: we'll have one at large spot because we want automatic

1089
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 3: bids and we want money money.

1090
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 9: Ah.

1091
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 3: You know, that's when it becomes bad. You are completely

1092
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 3: just a socker, a total you know, you're led by

1093
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 3: the collar like money is just like like jerking you

1094
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 3: around when it comes to all the decisions that you're making,

1095
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 3: and it's it's screwing up the landscape college football. Man,

1096
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,720
Speaker 3: it just is yeah, yeah, you really.

1097
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 5: You know.

1098
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 6: I always kind of say the places that I wish

1099
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 6: no money was involved in a perfect world.

1100
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 5: They would look like this.

1101
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 6: And I realize what you said is important, Like making

1102
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 6: a buck. There's not anything inherently wrong with that. Everybody's

1103
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,919
Speaker 6: trying to do it and I get that. But in

1104
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 6: sports and religion and politics, you wish there was no

1105
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 6: money involved because if you think about those three things,

1106
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 6: what are you selling. In religion, you're selling faith, In

1107
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 6: politics you're selling leadership, right, you don't want that to

1108
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 6: be corrupted by money.

1109
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 5: And in sports you're you're selling hope. You know what

1110
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 5: I mean? Like every single season.

1111
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 6: Browns fans think they have a chance because they're hoping

1112
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 6: that draft pick. You know, that first round quarterback is

1113
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 6: going to be the guy who saves.

1114
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 5: The team, right like you. When you add money to

1115
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,280
Speaker 5: the hope equation, it topples the formula.

1116
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 6: And that's the problem is money has as completely taken

1117
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 6: over the sport of college football, and I think there

1118
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 6: were huge inequities before. Players are not getting paid. We

1119
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 6: don't need to go down that rabbit hole. We don't

1120
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 6: have enough time. I want to talk to SEAE this year,

1121
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 6: but the point is they've completely abandoned hope to make

1122
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 6: a dollar and that's rough for the have nots.

1123
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 5: That's really rough.

1124
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 6: For the schools that can't compete on the dollar bill

1125
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 6: side of this thing.

1126
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 7: The only thing I'll saying conclusion quickly is it's a pendulum.

1127
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 7: I think right now we're on the extreme side, on

1128
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 7: the earning end, and I think eventually, hopefully, once we

1129
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 7: find some level ground, once we find the right amount

1130
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 7: of teams and we find the right formula, eventually we

1131
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 7: will kind of drift back to the center of Okay, now,

1132
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 7: let's go play football, because right now it's the off

1133
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 7: season and we're trying to talk about something, and there's

1134
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 7: all these news and these headlines, and I understand that

1135
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 7: we need to, you know, get to the meat of it.

1136
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 7: But I think at the end of the day, hopefully

1137
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 7: after the dust settles, might not be for a while,

1138
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 7: we get back to Okay, we have the right format. Now,

1139
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 7: let's go play football.

1140
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I want to think so, but

1141
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 3: I don't think so. It's gonna be a while delayed. Gratification.

1142
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 3: It's all greed, it's all money, it's all what's in

1143
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 3: it for me. It's not what's good for the overall landscape.

1144
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 3: And there's no governing body, you know, like if the

1145
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 3: NFL teams, if were up to them, they might come

1146
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 3: up with a system that benefited them and was one sided.

1147
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 3: And the teams that had the power and all. There's

1148
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 3: a whole structure, right there's an overseeing body that won't

1149
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 3: allow them to do that. It's like there are no

1150
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 3: cops in college football right now. It's the auto bonn

1151
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 3: on the highway. You go as fast as you want.

1152
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 7: Man, it's the wild West, it really is. We've described

1153
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 7: it as the wild West. It's like the gold Rush.

1154
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. Hey, we've got Rich Hornberger, Penn State All American,

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Speaker 5: All right, let's do.

1177
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Speaker 1: This follow the money, real good money.

1178
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 3: All right. We welcome in our main man, Seamus McGee,

1179
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,960
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Speaker 3: I'm not going to allow you to have access to

1181
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 3: the full slate of college basketball here, Seamus. I know

1182
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 3: you love your Horizon League and your high point bets

1183
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 3: and all of that, because what ranked versus Ranked matchup?

1184
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 3: Do you have your eye on most today.

1185
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,959
Speaker 8: There's always going to be back here. Great slate, really

1186
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 8: loaded slate for today. I you know, I really can't

1187
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 8: take my eyes off Houston Lane. A pretty big number

1188
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 8: I in Styua State today at home. Twelve and a

1189
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 8: half points spread right now, I think it says a

1190
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 8: lot about each team and where they're at the season.

1191
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 8: Houston looks like they are just locked in for another

1192
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 8: big run in a tournament on Iowa State not been

1193
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 8: great recently, so I think I like Houston a lot,

1194
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 8: even laying that many points.

1195
00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 7: I'll give you my favorite matchup today. It is in

1196
00:59:59,920 --> 01:00:03,919
Speaker 7: the SEC. It's Missouri at Arkansas. And we just saw

1197
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 7: Missouri do whatever they wanted against Alabama drop a buck

1198
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 7: ten forty seven to free throw at time. So of

1199
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 7: course today against crappy Arkansas, the lines like two and

1200
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 7: Arkansas is kind of fighting for their lives here, trying

1201
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 7: to make the tournament. Some tough game. I mean, the

1202
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 7: SEC is just so tough. I think Arkansas is a

1203
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 7: home dog. Is a pretty sharp look today.

1204
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 3: What does Seamus think.

1205
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 10: It's tough?

1206
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 8: That's that's one of those games where the line kind

1207
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 8: of like stinks right now. I don't know, I don't

1208
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 8: know which side I like at that number, but it's

1209
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 8: definitely interesting. I can't possibly get myself to bet Arkansas

1210
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 8: this season. I just don't trust them, and it's a

1211
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 8: pretty big let down spot from a zoo. So it's

1212
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 8: definitely gonna be one that is going to be interesting

1213
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 8: to watch it. You're right, it's absolutely must win for Arkansas.

1214
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 6: They have to have this game, not to grab the

1215
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 6: wheel and jerk it in a completely different direction. But

1216
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 6: it's what I want to do because I'm still stealing

1217
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 6: a little bit over the last thing we discussed, Seaman said,

1218
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 6: I want to hear your thoughts on it too. You're

1219
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 6: obviously tied into college hoops, but also college football and

1220
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 6: the playoff expansion. We just were mulling over how it

1221
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 6: benefits certain conferences and not others. It feels like money

1222
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 6: is a huge motivator here. What are your thoughts on

1223
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 6: the early talks of expanding the current format we have.

1224
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 10: I hate it. I hated when they expanded from four.

1225
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 8: I don't think they needed to, and I was told, oh, no,

1226
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 8: everything's going to be fine. The regular season is going

1227
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 8: to be It's still gonna be good.

1228
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 10: It's gonna be great. Now everyone has a chance to

1229
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 10: make the playoffs. That's not the point.

1230
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 8: Football is a completely different sport. There's only a handful

1231
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 8: of teams every year that you can say or they

1232
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,439
Speaker 8: deserve to be playing for a national championship. And then

1233
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 8: you know, once we go to twelve, I could have

1234
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 8: told you it's a year we'd be going, oh well,

1235
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 8: let's go to sixteen, let's go to twenty four, just

1236
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 8: like FCS.

1237
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 10: And I hate it. I really it's all about money.

1238
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,919
Speaker 8: It's like the least good intention thing I've ever heard

1239
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 8: that this is all it's for everyone.

1240
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 3: It's not.

1241
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 10: It's absolutely not.

1242
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,439
Speaker 3: I'm with you, Seamus, absolutely with you. And I hate

1243
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 3: the format on top of it, where we're talking about

1244
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 3: maybe one at large spots. Terrible. But I'll bring it

1245
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 3: back to college basketball. You know, how about Kentucky at Alabama.

1246
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 3: Alabama's been rough the last couple of games allowed a

1247
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 3: buck ten, like Jared just said, last cave against Missouri.

1248
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 3: They're back at home, they're laying a huge number against Kentucky,

1249
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 3: and of course the total is near one eighty. What

1250
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 3: do you think sidon total in this matchup?

1251
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, any damnit total?

1252
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 8: You're going to see a number that high, but it's

1253
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 8: it's definitely one. I'm not really sure where to go

1254
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 8: on this one either, because you know that is a

1255
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 8: big number. I do like Mark Polpe in Kentucky, they

1256
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 8: play really hard. But Alabama, is this a get right

1257
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 8: spot form? The number seems to think that the sharps

1258
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 8: and then the public betting a lot also think that

1259
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 8: it is going to be the case for.

1260
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 7: Obama seeing some number crash down in this Oregan Wisconsin game.

1261
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 7: It felt like a high scoring game, but we're seeing

1262
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 7: some under money here in the market this morning.

1263
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 3: Wisconsin's legit.

1264
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 7: I think Wisconsin might be the best team in the

1265
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 7: Big Ten, although Michigan State put on a show last

1266
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 7: night in ann Arbor. I think Wisconsin is another one

1267
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 7: of those teams we need to take very seriously tough

1268
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 7: to lay a big number against Dan Altman. It's gonna

1269
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 7: be his zone defense today. We're gonna see I Wisconsin

1270
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 7: get shoot over it. But looks like based on the

1271
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 7: total coming down a little bit a little under money

1272
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 7: in the market this morning for this one.

1273
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 8: Shamus, this there's probably only two or three teams tops.

1274
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 8: I've been playing better basketball than Wisconsin since the new year.

1275
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 8: They look really really good and it's a bit of

1276
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 8: a different Wisconsin team this year compared to Bo Ryan

1277
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 8: and Greg guard team. The offense is unreal. They hit

1278
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 8: the free throws, they hit threes, They can score a

1279
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 8: lot of points. So the sharp's definitely on the Badgers

1280
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 8: today with the line opening eight and a half and

1281
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 8: up to nine and a half, and it is kind

1282
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 8: of strange thing Wisconsin basketball total being that high, so

1283
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 8: I could see some you know, from coming down. Also

1284
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 8: early tip for Oregon, nude tip.

1285
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 6: We got Duke Illinois Madison Square Garden. Duke's been rolling lately,

1286
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 6: fifteen to one in the a SEC. They step outside

1287
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 6: of conference play to face the Alni in a one off.

1288
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 6: What do you think about this one? I last I

1289
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 6: looked line. I they're dog nine and a half. I

1290
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 6: kind of like that side. Where are you at?

1291
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, we're at nine and a half right now, and

1292
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 8: we're going to need Illinois point to link.

1293
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 10: This is Duke's playing an MSc. This is the home

1294
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 10: game for Duke every year they come here, so we're

1295
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 10: going to need Duke.

1296
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Speaker 8: I think we're definitely gonna need the under. You know,

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Speaker 8: you got two lottery picks coming in, one of them

1298
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Speaker 8: being Cooper flagged. So I think a lot of people

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Speaker 8: can betting some.

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Speaker 10: Player props on their overs. It definitely just points out

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01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 10: of this game. So I think we're gonna to annoying

1302
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 10: the under in this game.

1303
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 3: Okay, what are you going to need, Seamus, It's time

1304
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 3: for the shamous special? Huh? What's top of the list

1305
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:55,919
Speaker 3: for you?

1306
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 8: Anyone who knows me knows that I'm a massive soft.

1307
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 8: So we're going to look to the twelve thirty EPL game.

1308
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 8: We're taking aston Villa on the money line against Chelsea

1309
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 8: at home. Ashtonville is a team they do not lose

1310
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 8: at Villa Park very often, and Chelsea is in a

1311
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 8: bit of a funk right now. Aston Villa just grew

1312
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 8: Liverpool too to at home the other day, so hopefully

1313
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 8: we get you know, hopefully they're not tired enough from

1314
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 8: that game in midweek. But Chelsea is a team willing

1315
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 8: to fade going on the road today.

1316
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 3: All right, love it, man, A little bit of you

1317
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 3: know football over here on a college Saturday. I love that,

1318
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 3: sham as you go wherever you want, all right, man.

1319
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 3: Iways good hanging with you, Bud, have a good Saturday.

1320
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 3: We'll catch you soon.

1321
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 6: Thanks.

1322
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 5: Jus there.

1323
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Speaker 3: He is Seamus McGee, our guy, team lead of sports

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Speaker 3: second Chance. What second chance? Well you ever bet on

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Speaker 3: your favorite player to score the first field goal only

1330
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Speaker 3: to see him make an assist to his teammate for

1331
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Speaker 3: an easy layer.

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Speaker 5: Yep?

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Speaker 3: back in cash if your first field goal scorer score

1335
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Speaker 3: second instead of first. By the way, guys, so I

1336
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 3: bought some coffee last night for the Mayo bet payoff.

1337
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 3: Here I fizzled down the stretch. Jared just absolutely was

1338
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 3: a bolt of lightning and caught me by half a game,

1339
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 3: which is even more sickening than this Mayo and the

1340
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 3: coffee is gonna be. But here's the thing, So it's

1341
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 3: just it's not like the squeezable Mayo. I feel like

1342
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 3: the squeezable Mayo is the better way to go. I

1343
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 3: bought like one of those kind of like a cold frappucino,

1344
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 3: kind of like you shake it up and all that

1345
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 3: type of so I was just gonna like squeeze the

1346
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 3: mayo into that kind of shake it up and go

1347
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 3: from there. But it's it's like a scoopable mayo. And

1348
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 3: I'm like how and the like the spoon and like

1349
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 3: to get it in the coffee, and I think we

1350
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 3: got to wait until there's squeezable it said that fair, fair,

1351
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 3: like squeezable mayo.

1352
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:08,439
Speaker 7: I'll give you a chance to get off the hook

1353
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 7: if you just take one bite of it off a spoon.

1354
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 3: No, no, I I want to do the coffee I got.

1355
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 5: It's all so bad. It's all so bad. I promise

1356
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 5: you it's not as bad as you think.

1357
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 6: But I still have a nightmare of that first sip

1358
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 6: because I did the squeezable mayo. And I'm gonna have

1359
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 6: to do this with you again because I didn't do

1360
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 6: it last year after.

1361
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 3: Got a pony up.

1362
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 5: We both have to p so I will say this.

1363
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 6: The worst part about it is as it's hitting the liquid,

1364
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 6: it stays in its form, right, so it looks like

1365
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 6: Ramen Newt.

1366
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 3: Does you showed us that last time?

1367
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 5: My goodness, Yeah, it's awful.

1368
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's a great way to avoid this Guy's just

1369
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 7: win bets that's true.

1370
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Speaker 5: That's true. It's true, really not bullying.

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Speaker 3: I cannot believe you got out. It had no you

1372
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 3: know you had. I'm bullet proof, baby.

1373
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 7: Wait what if Phil help saying the World Series A poker,

1374
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 7: I dodge bullets, baby.

1375
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's so him to say that, no doubt. Really, Hey,

1376
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 3: how about Lakers at the Nuggets tonight? I think it's

1377
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 3: a really good NBA matchup. Nuggets favored by six and

1378
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 3: a half. Total is two forty three and a half,

1379
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 3: so we're scoring some points tonight. Luca admitted some rust.

1380
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 3: You know, it's gonna take a little bit of time

1381
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 3: at the calf injury. So you know, I'm kind of

1382
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 3: interested in Luca's rebounds. He's still rebounding the ball. He's

1383
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,639
Speaker 3: at six and a half. Look at the front court

1384
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 3: of the Lakers. It's like, oh my gosh, it's pretty

1385
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 3: rough right now. Maybe that's the question, do you like

1386
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 3: Luca Lebron they're both at six and a half. To

1387
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 3: get over that if you're looking at the rebounding market,

1388
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 3: or you just go straight joker and say he's gonna

1389
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 3: eat and eat and eat when it comes to cleaning

1390
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 3: up the glass. I just I think that side of

1391
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 3: it is pretty interesting whether you start looking at a

1392
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,440
Speaker 3: Laker or a nugget in terms of the glass.

1393
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would I would lean. I would lean joker

1394
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 6: because like, if there is rust, you know what that

1395
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 6: means misshots and that gives opportunities on the defensive side

1396
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 6: to grab some rebounds. Also, you know, it's funny as

1397
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,799
Speaker 6: inconsistent as it looks right now still in my mind,

1398
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 6: like Lebron, who's ever been the chameleon working with new players,

1399
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:21,679
Speaker 6: different teams, different cities.

1400
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 5: You just know what this season's gonna look like. In

1401
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 5: the end, He's gonna find a way.

1402
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 6: And him and Luca are gonna look He'll look rejuvenated

1403
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 6: and Luca will too, because he is rolling off the

1404
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 6: injury down the stretch of this season. And it's going

1405
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 6: to infuriate most NBA fans because they're gonna go back

1406
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 6: to what happened you know, here and now in the

1407
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 6: winter and say, like, how did the NBA let them

1408
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 6: get away with this? You know, it just seems so

1409
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:53,719
Speaker 6: crazy that we're still in the aftershock of this trade

1410
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 6: and the headlines going away as we get used to

1411
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 6: the new normal.

1412
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, I I struggle with laying laying points in the

1413
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 7: NBA these days, like if it. But I do think

1414
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 7: that eventually we're going to see this Lakers team figure

1415
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 7: it out, and that's the scary part. But I would lean,

1416
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 7: I would lean Nuggets tonight, and I when Luca and

1417
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 7: Lebron finally get in sync, if it does happen, And

1418
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 7: I don't know if it's gonna happen or not, but

1419
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 7: if it does happen, then yeah, this is going to

1420
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 7: be a problem in April and may for a lot

1421
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 7: of other teams.

1422
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 3: But it might not. Like this could be a thing

1423
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 3: where they.

1424
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 7: Don't figure it out and eventually Luca takes over as

1425
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 7: the you know, the mantle of the Lakers franchise and

1426
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 7: down the road the Lakers become this great thing like

1427
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 7: post Lebron.

1428
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1429
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 7: I have not liked what I've seen so far with

1430
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 7: the cohesion between those two guys, and I know they've

1431
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 7: missed a little bit of time too and the All

1432
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 7: Star break kind of in the middle there. But I

1433
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 7: would say Denver or passed for me tonight.

1434
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Nuggets have won seven straight games by double digits. Yeah,

1435
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 3: their offense been really really good lately and yeah, I

1436
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 3: think Luca and Lebron will definitely get in rhythm and

1437
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 3: figure it out. But it's all about to what extent,

1438
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:09,640
Speaker 3: you know, not to an extent that they're winning a

1439
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 3: championship or even coming out of the West. I don't

1440
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 3: see that at all, where it's like, look, man, it's

1441
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 3: not the same as football, but the front court matters.

1442
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 3: The Lakers are like a football team that has really

1443
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 3: good skill position players and like they're not good in

1444
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 3: the trenches. Yeah, how far do you think that team's

1445
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 3: gonna go. They're not gonna go far. And even though

1446
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:33,719
Speaker 3: the NBA has changed and morphed and bigs are shooting

1447
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 3: from outside right, like it's not the same as it

1448
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 3: once was. But rebounding, hitting the glass, rim protection, that

1449
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 3: all still matters, and the Lakers just don't have enough

1450
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 3: of it.

1451
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 5: Man.

1452
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 3: They just picked up Alex lenn what's that gonna do? Nothing? Nothing? So, yeah,

1453
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 3: they're a football team where we're like, hey, we're not

1454
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 3: that good on offensive line, but man, our wide receivers.

1455
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, when you go up against the good

1456
01:11:56,120 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 3: defensive line, you are going to get chewed up. You're

1457
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 3: gonna get eaten alive. That's what's gonna happen with them.

1458
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:03,959
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1459
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, hustle effort basketball is difficult to contend with. It's

1460
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 6: i mean, harkening back to the same conversation we're having

1461
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 6: in college hoops.

1462
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 5: You could be a high flying.

1463
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 6: Three point scoring, perimeter savvy or transition team and run

1464
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 6: the scoreboard up all throughout the regular season. But when

1465
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 6: it gets down to the nitty gritty and every shot counts,

1466
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 6: whether it's in the college postseason or the NBA, man,

1467
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 6: it's tougher to see those through. It's it's tougher to

1468
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 6: see a lot more of those those those uh, those

1469
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 6: baskets fall for you. So you know, a higher energy

1470
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 6: defensive team typically typically has the edge in the postseason.

1471
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 3: Well, see you mean like the Thunder, who have like

1472
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 3: a historic defense this year.

1473
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's great example.

1474
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 7: That's who I'm picking to make the Western Conference Finals,

1475
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 7: the Oklahoma City Thunder.

1476
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 3: Yeah they might. They might be your champs right there.

1477
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 7: They I think them against Boston would be a really

1478
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 7: good series. Now we want to see porzingis obviously healthy,

1479
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,600
Speaker 7: but you want to talk about depth and defense, I

1480
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,759
Speaker 7: mean that that would be it might be an ugly

1481
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,600
Speaker 7: NBA Finals if it's Boston. Okay, see, but you'd have

1482
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 7: the MVP SGA who was locked to win the MVP

1483
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 7: barring some kind of weird fluke injury like we just

1484
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 7: saw with Wemby and the defending Jams. I mean, what

1485
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 7: else could you possibly ask for? Ye sounds like a

1486
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 7: fun series to me.

1487
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 3: And you want to talk about how the NBA has

1488
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 3: changed over the years. It used to be you know,

1489
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 3: Patrick Ewing, you know, Thick to Ken but Tumbo, you

1490
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 3: know those guys. And now the matchup, if that's what

1491
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 3: it is, it'd be Chet Holmgren and Porzingis you know

1492
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like a stiff wind would blow them

1493
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 3: over and they could just fill it up from from distance,

1494
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like it's it's it's a

1495
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Speaker 3: different day, man, it just is. Hey, be sure to

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. I've got Rich Hornberger,

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01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:16,600
Speaker 3: You know, we got Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I

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01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 3: might see Jared today and I'm on guard because jackpot

1504
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 3: jackpot might. I'll have jackpot in chains.

1505
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 7: Don't worry, he'll He'll be lockdown, lockdown, defensively, just like

1506
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 7: SGA and that thunder defense.

1507
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:31,839
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1508
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 3: I'm Brian Nough Coming up next. Prop it up the

1509
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,240
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1510
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:39,479
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1511
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:39,920
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1512
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:43,840
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1527
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 3: All right, let's dive into this.

1528
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 2: Prop it up player plays Okay, prop bets colore so

1529
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 2: many opportunities, Jared.

1530
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 3: Let's start with you, your opportunity that we're choosing for starters here.

1531
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 5: What do you have today?

1532
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 3: No, I appreciate that, very excited about this. Last time.

1533
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:55,719
Speaker 7: Last week we gave you that assist prop on Braydon

1534
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 7: Smith almost shit in the first half, So let's well

1535
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 7: try to duplicate that here in this one. And I

1536
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:01,679
Speaker 7: don't think we're gonna get there in the first half.

1537
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:03,639
Speaker 7: But I do think the way Taylor points props today

1538
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 7: in this A and M Tennessee game just a little

1539
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 7: bit undervalued. So he's at thirteen and a half right now,

1540
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 7: he's averaging fifteen for points per game on the year.

1541
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 7: And again, my vine for this game is it looks

1542
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 7: like a rock fight on paper, but I think the

1543
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 7: turnball is a and M to allow Waye Taylor to

1544
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,680
Speaker 7: operate with the basketball and to be a little bit

1545
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 7: more forceful on the offensive side.

1546
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 3: We think it's going to be a slow pace game.

1547
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 7: But I've already seen just the hair of movement towards

1548
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 7: the over in this Tennessee, Texas A and M game,

1549
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 7: because I do think the sharp move is a little

1550
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:34,719
Speaker 7: bit more offensive minded.

1551
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 5: So way Taylor.

1552
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 7: Again, Tennessee's defense is great, but I think Waye Taylor,

1553
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 7: we only need to score fourteen points.

1554
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:41,679
Speaker 3: That's a point less than his averaged on the ear.

1555
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 7: So just get to your average way and we will

1556
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 7: get over this prop way Taylor over thirteen and a

1557
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 7: half points in the Tennessee A and M game starts

1558
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 7: at noon, so you got about an hour.

1559
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 3: To get this one in, all right.

1560
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 6: I got one that the NBA Paul George his seventy

1561
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 6: six ers taken on the Brooklyn nets.

1562
01:16:58,280 --> 01:16:59,799
Speaker 5: You know, you look at you look.

1563
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 6: At Paul Georgia has not been perfect in Philadelphia. And

1564
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 6: also he's got that finger injury he's been dealing since

1565
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 6: with Since January, he's been playing in a splin He's

1566
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 6: admitted to getting injections to keep this thing Okay, he dropped.

1567
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 6: He dropped not a season high, but a seventeen on

1568
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 6: Boston two days ago in a losing effort.

1569
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 5: I I like the over on the fourteen and a

1570
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 5: half points against the net softer defense.

1571
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 6: Paul George may have figured out his stroke playing with

1572
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:36,959
Speaker 6: the splint, so I got PG with more than fourteen

1573
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:37,839
Speaker 6: and a half points.

1574
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, well we'll make it an oversleep right here.

1575
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Great Ossibor, what a name? Huh, great name? Great, Yeah,

1576
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 3: great Osibor, but over eight and a half rebounds. So

1577
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 3: he's he's the big dude for Washington. And if you're like,

1578
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,679
Speaker 3: well they have a cup now, No, No, he's the big dude. Okay.

1579
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 3: If you watched watching that, he stands out.

1580
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 10: Man.

1581
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 3: Dude is thick. And you look at Iowa, they've been

1582
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 3: taking advantage of because their starting center, Owen Freeman, he's

1583
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 3: out for the rest of the season. And so some

1584
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 3: of these good rebounding teams, man, they eat against Iowa,

1585
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 3: and I expect great Austin Border to eat today. Give

1586
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 3: me over eight and a half against the Hawkeys. I

1587
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 3: think that's a solid play. I do like yours, Jared

1588
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 3: and I love the confidence when you say you got

1589
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,839
Speaker 3: an hour before this game tips off, you gotta add quickly.

1590
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 3: Now I know your confidence level is high.

1591
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 5: I like that.

1592
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 3: I think this is I honestly think this is the

1593
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 3: vibe of the NCAA tournament.

1594
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 7: You have to be willing to zig when everything else

1595
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 7: is Zags like and not the Zags can zagging because

1596
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 7: I don't think they're going to be a you know,

1597
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 7: a Final four team this year. But every everything says

1598
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 7: this A and M Tennessee game is going to be

1599
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 7: a rock fight.

1600
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 3: But why is the total moving up?

1601
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 5: Right?

1602
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 3: I think I think this is going to be a

1603
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 3: sneaky good offense. Again. I bet the first half over

1604
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 3: in this game too, sixty and a half. I think

1605
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:01,879
Speaker 3: it's such low total.

1606
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 7: Yes, two good defensive teams, here's another quick one. I

1607
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,799
Speaker 7: like Stephen Krowe over two and a half assists. Oregon

1608
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 7: zone defense is going to crash today on the Bigs,

1609
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 7: and I think Wisconsin's going to be kicking it out

1610
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 7: making a lot of three hees two and a half

1611
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 7: assister Stephen Krowe, He's top five hundred in the nation

1612
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 7: in assist rake this year.

1613
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 3: He's a seven footer. He can pass the basketball. That's

1614
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 3: why it's a little number.

1615
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 7: Stephen Crowe over two and a half is says bonus

1616
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 7: prop time for you.

1617
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:31,759
Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, I've got a zig zag proposition for you.

1618
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 3: Well you might hate this, but if you're looking at

1619
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 3: going against the grain, just just hear me. Let's throw

1620
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 3: it out there. If you don't like it, just throw

1621
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 3: it right back.

1622
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 5: You know.

1623
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 3: John Tanjay has been fantastic lately. He's a Wisconsin Badgers.

1624
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:48,879
Speaker 3: He's gone for thirty plus and back to back games

1625
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 3: against good teams against Perdue, against Illinois. It's at nineteen

1626
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 3: and a half his points prop today. It just seems like,

1627
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 3: oh twenty, he's gotten thirty the last couple of games.

1628
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 5: What about there for time, jack.

1629
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

1630
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 7: Well, the totals drifting under a little bit, like it

1631
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 7: was one fifty five this morning. Now we're down to

1632
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 7: one fifty three and a half. But the Oregon's taking

1633
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 7: someone or me, Wisconsin's taking some money. So we think

1634
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 7: Wisconsin's gonna score eighty today, maybe seventy five. That's a

1635
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 7: tight one. No, let's tight, that's tightening.

1636
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 3: Considerate, Hey, coming up next, could history from eleven years

1637
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 3: ago repeat itself two months from now. Oh man, we

1638
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 3: have a we have a discussion right here that's going

1639
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 3: to bring a just colossal smile to the face of

1640
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 3: Rich Hornberger. I feel like, right, retired offensive guard in

1641
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 3: the NFL, interior lineman, Right, how about shout out to

1642
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 3: Zach Martin. Yeah, who is retiring now is stud offensive

1643
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:53,600
Speaker 3: guard for eleven years with the Dallas Cowboys. He's a

1644
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 3: nine time Pro Bowler. He's a first team All Pro

1645
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:01,759
Speaker 3: seven times. And the stat that you've probably heard mentioned

1646
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:06,520
Speaker 3: is that Zach Martin had only seven accepted holding penalties

1647
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 3: in his career, and that's the same number as first

1648
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 3: team All Pro selections. Yeah, that's insane. Yeah, hey, shout

1649
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:17,879
Speaker 3: out Irish right.

1650
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. Notre dame.

1651
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 3: We'll expand it to something I think is pretty interesting

1652
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 3: in the upcoming draft. But just starting with this, Rich,

1653
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 3: you could speak to it better than anybody on the show, obviously,

1654
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 3: but what it takes to play at that high of

1655
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 3: a level, and just how impressive it he is. Because listen,

1656
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 3: we spent a lot of time talking about quarterbacks and

1657
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 3: wide receivers in the flashy positions and all of that,

1658
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:44,719
Speaker 3: but the trenches to do what he did. Only seven

1659
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 3: accepted holding penalties in an eleven year career is insanity.

1660
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 3: But that's what happened. What what do you think about

1661
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 3: his career, his body of work, and what made him

1662
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:56,639
Speaker 3: so great?

1663
01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 6: Well, first and foremost, he's strong enough, big enough, good

1664
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:06,679
Speaker 6: enough of an athlete, mean enough, durable enough to earn

1665
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 6: all those career accolades, but also quickly earned the respect

1666
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 6: of the league. It's so hard to get noticed as

1667
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 6: a talented or a superior offensive lineman. So where it

1668
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:24,600
Speaker 6: starts is your peers, and by that I mean your opponents,

1669
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 6: the guys who play against you on the defensive line.

1670
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 6: And then slowly, you know, coaches start to see you

1671
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 6: on film and they go, hey, yeah, you know, if

1672
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 6: we're going to put pressure on the quarterback, we got

1673
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 6: to get away from that guy, you know.

1674
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 5: And and so that.

1675
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 6: Respect it gets talked about throughout league circles, like when

1676
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 6: you when you play against a certain team with a

1677
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 6: certain guy on the offensive line, whether it be you know,

1678
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 6: a Logan Mankins back in the day with the New

1679
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 6: England Patriots, or it'll be like, you know, a Nick

1680
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 6: Hardwick with the then San Diego chargers. You know, you

1681
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 6: have you have these samples of guys who have locked

1682
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 6: down a position for a long time with a high

1683
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 6: level of success, and and they are they become the

1684
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 6: glue and the and a foundational block to the rest

1685
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 6: of the offense.

1686
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 5: It's uh, it's hard, man.

1687
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 6: The NFL, especially in the trenches, is a fistfight on

1688
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 6: every single snap. And if you don't have what it takes,

1689
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:28,600
Speaker 6: if you're not perfectly technically sound, uh, if you're not

1690
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 6: the type of guy who can withstand a tremendous amount

1691
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 6: of abuse, you're not gonna last very long in the

1692
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 6: league and you're certainly not gonna have success. And he

1693
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 6: had all those intangible qualities. So a career well played,

1694
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 6: and it really it opens the door to have the

1695
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 6: conversation about teams that are built right typically have a

1696
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 6: guy like that or a couple of guys like that

1697
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:53,559
Speaker 6: on their offensive line. And you know, look no further

1698
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 6: than your Super Bowl champions this this year with Lane

1699
01:23:57,320 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 6: Johnson and that that that group up front with Jurgens

1700
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 6: and some of the things they had to do, even

1701
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:06,480
Speaker 6: shuffling the deck on the offensive line during the postseason,

1702
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,759
Speaker 6: the Eagles offensive line was a big reason why Saquon

1703
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 6: had so much success this regular season and why the

1704
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 6: Eagles had so much success in the postseason.

1705
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, and you summed it up perfectly with Martin. I

1706
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 7: won't overstate that. But now the contract situation for Dallas

1707
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 7: is intriguing because he just re signed and restructured his deal,

1708
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 7: and so they're gonna kind of spread out the money

1709
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 7: over the next few years because they're gonna again I'm

1710
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 7: not a capologist, but based on what I read, they're

1711
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 7: going to designate him a post June first the retirement,

1712
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 7: you know, person, and that allows them to spread out

1713
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 7: this money because they do home like a pretty decent

1714
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 7: amount of money, like it's a twenty five million dollar

1715
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 7: dead cap hit next year, right like it's it's a

1716
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:49,639
Speaker 7: big and you.

1717
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 3: Know, Dallas is in an interesting spot right now.

1718
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:55,679
Speaker 7: I think this is obviously we tip of the cap

1719
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 7: to a future Hall of Famer and Zach Barton, nobody,

1720
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 7: nobody's done it better in this recent stretch and Rich

1721
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 7: alluded to that perfectly. But now Dallas moves forward, and

1722
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 7: this is a guy that was a staple on their

1723
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 7: offensive line, on an offensive line that over the last

1724
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 7: decade was great and now they lost battish to Washington.

1725
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 7: Now Martin's gone, like, it's a totally different offensive line,

1726
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 7: and how they This is a Dallas team that used

1727
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 7: to be run the ball, run the ball, play defense,

1728
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 7: run the ball. And now what's the identity of the

1729
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 7: Dallas Cowboys going forward? It has changed dramatically over the

1730
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 7: last couple of years. They've spread it out a lot

1731
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 7: more with Dak and Ceedee Lamb and all those weapons

1732
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 7: that they have.

1733
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:37,839
Speaker 3: But this is a Cowboys team that used.

1734
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 7: To be very much an identity, and now I think

1735
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 7: as Zach Martin retires and rides off into the sunset,

1736
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 7: the identity of the Dallas Cowboys is also riding off

1737
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 7: into the sunset. And they need to really reshape what

1738
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 7: they are as a franchise because it wasn't pretty last

1739
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 7: year and they're not going to be any tougher this

1740
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 7: year without one of the toughest players in the.

1741
01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:59,759
Speaker 3: NFL over the last decade. Yeah, that's a great point.

1742
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 3: And think how many years the staples of that O line.

1743
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 3: It was Zach Martin, it was Tyrone Smith yep, and

1744
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 3: both guys are gone now that Zach Martin is retiring.

1745
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 3: But it's a great point. I can't help but think

1746
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 3: of Philly because Dak's statement were essentially saying, we're kind

1747
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 3: of on equal footing, right Like, look at the o

1748
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 3: lines with those two teams, look at the running games

1749
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 3: with those two teams, and it makes me wonder, you know,

1750
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 3: what would what would Jalen Hurts be like without Saquon

1751
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 3: Barkley and that running attack, that offensive line. It's a

1752
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 3: legitimate question. It's not taking credit away from him. He

1753
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 3: was just spectacular in the super Bowl, but he was

1754
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 3: not all world throughout the season, you know what I mean,

1755
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 3: Like your your supporting cast matter is quite a bit.

1756
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:49,760
Speaker 3: And if Jalen Hurts had what Dak has to work with,

1757
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 3: I think it would reflect in the numbers. And that's

1758
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 3: the other part of this is, Yeah, Dak said his

1759
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:58,799
Speaker 3: best when he had a stud offensive line, had Ezekiel

1760
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:02,680
Speaker 3: Elliott in his prime, And now the bulk of the

1761
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 3: offense is on his shoulders, and that's not great to

1762
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:11,719
Speaker 3: have a leaky offensive line, a less than extraordinary offensive line,

1763
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:14,719
Speaker 3: not a great running game. And it's just like, Okay,

1764
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 3: more on my shoulders, more on my shoulders. And that's

1765
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 3: where it is with Dak. Let me throw something else

1766
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 3: at you because it gets me thinking. So you go

1767
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 3: back to the twenty fourteen draft. Zach Martin was taken

1768
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 3: by the Cowboys sixteenth overall. And remember Jerry Jones, he

1769
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 3: wanted Johnny Manziel. Yes, he wanted Johnny Football, and he

1770
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 3: regretted not taking Johnny Football for a little while. And

1771
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 3: then the Johnny Football's career turned out to be what

1772
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 3: it was, and all that regret just went away. You

1773
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 3: have a Hall of Famer in Zach Martin and a

1774
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 3: fizzle out in Johnny Manziel. And so if you play

1775
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:55,720
Speaker 3: this forward and look at this upcoming draft, who's the

1776
01:27:55,840 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 3: team that says, hey, we need a quarterback, but we're

1777
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 3: gonna take this non quarterback instead. Right, They pass on

1778
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 3: cam Ward, they pass on shduor Sanders, and they take

1779
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 3: a non quarterback who turns out to be a stud,

1780
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 3: maybe a Hall of famer. Which teams do that and

1781
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 3: which teams say we got to have a quarterback. I mean,

1782
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 3: they're intriguing prospects. Hopefully it works out fingers crossed, you know,

1783
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 3: and they might bypass a Hall of Fame talent. I

1784
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 3: think that's really interesting and history could repeat itself a

1785
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 3: couple of months from now.

1786
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 6: Oh, it absolutely could, especially in a weaker quarterback draft,

1787
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 6: where pass rusher obviously is a position where if you

1788
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 6: have an elite one, it makes your team so much better.

1789
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 6: Wide receivers, corners, certainly, offensive lineman like we were talking about.

1790
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:53,679
Speaker 6: And if you steer further and further away from skilled

1791
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 6: position high drafted skill position players, and you start looking

1792
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 6: at teams who have spent a little bit draft capital

1793
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 6: building up the offensive line or defensive line. Frankly, over

1794
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:08,719
Speaker 6: the years, a lot of them have had longer standing

1795
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 6: success than others. It doesn't always work out that way,

1796
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 6: and there are busts on the offensive line, but it

1797
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 6: is a much easier position to effectively. I guess, I

1798
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 6: guess a praise what talents will look like at the

1799
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 6: NFL level as opposed to the quarterback position, which is

1800
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 6: so haphazard. You know, you go back and you look

1801
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 6: at first round quarterbacks taken. Typically it's a hit rate

1802
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 6: only just under thirty eight percent. Like where you're even

1803
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:42,440
Speaker 6: drafting a franchise talent.

1804
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 5: In the first round.

1805
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:46,120
Speaker 6: We're not even talking about a guy who necessarily, you know,

1806
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 6: habitually makes it to the playoffs. We're just talking about

1807
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 6: a guy who you know, you're certain you could build

1808
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 6: a team around, and if you surround him with enough talent,

1809
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 6: you may be able to break into the playoff conversation

1810
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 6: on an annual basis. So I think there are going

1811
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 6: to be a lot of teams Brian, who are picking

1812
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 6: high in this draft, who are going to be looking

1813
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 6: at their options and saying, do we really need a

1814
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 6: gamble right now in the quarterback or do we need

1815
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:10,679
Speaker 6: a fortify elsewhere?

1816
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 3: I cannot wait to break down this quarterback class. I

1817
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:16,679
Speaker 3: think this is and it's not as good.

1818
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 7: Of a quarterback class as we've seen in years pass

1819
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 7: Like last year we had six quarterbacks taken in the

1820
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 7: first thirteen picks, Like that's crazy, twelve crazy for twelve

1821
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:28,160
Speaker 7: twelve picks, Thank you, thank you crazy. Not even come

1822
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 7: close to that this year. But the reason that I

1823
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 7: like this quarterback class from an analyst standpoint is because

1824
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:39,559
Speaker 7: both guys are very different and we get to see

1825
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:45,760
Speaker 7: which team favors which style. For example, cam Ward high

1826
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:49,559
Speaker 7: ceiling can make the flashy play the Mahomes kind of throws,

1827
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 7: but the floor is low, not very accurate, Whereas Shador

1828
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 7: Sanders is an elite placer of the football, like you

1829
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 7: want to talk about my favorite dessert at the Italian restaurant,

1830
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 7: the seven layer cake. Shador Sanders has the ability to

1831
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 7: layer the football in multiple windows. The highest completion percentage

1832
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:12,519
Speaker 7: in college football last year. The opposite of cam Ward

1833
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 7: not very mobile, is going to be a statue in

1834
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:17,879
Speaker 7: the pocket, but will deliver the football an elite placer.

1835
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 3: So which vibe does Tennessee want more?

1836
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 7: I would say for the last few years they've been

1837
01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:26,840
Speaker 7: more in the cam Ward camp with Will Levis, who

1838
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:28,960
Speaker 7: can make that high upside play.

1839
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:30,760
Speaker 3: But then the downside is really there.

1840
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:33,599
Speaker 7: That's why I think Shador might be a sneaky number

1841
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 7: one pick option. I didn't get him at like seven

1842
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:38,839
Speaker 7: to one right now to be the first drafted player

1843
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:41,560
Speaker 7: and obviously the quarterback taken at the top, but the

1844
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 7: rest of the draft is intriguing, like where Travis Hunter

1845
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 7: shakes out, and obviously the top twelve like Genty is

1846
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:50,800
Speaker 7: the guy right now mock to go to Dallas at

1847
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 7: twelve by a lot of popular mock drafts. I would

1848
01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 7: much rather prefer an offensive lineman instead of Ashon Genty.

1849
01:31:57,320 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 7: Like to me, if you're drafting Ashton Genty. That means

1850
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:01,760
Speaker 7: you already have guy like Zach Martin blocking for him,

1851
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:04,040
Speaker 7: you know, and the offensive line has already like the

1852
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 7: ash and Genty. You would drop him onto the Eagles

1853
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:07,800
Speaker 7: next year if they didn't have Saquon and he would

1854
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:09,360
Speaker 7: be great. I don't know if you can say the

1855
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 7: same thing about the Cowboys, but it looks like Genty's

1856
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 7: gonna be a top fifteen pick.

1857
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 3: He's gonna be the first running back taken.

1858
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:16,600
Speaker 7: So that's gonna be an interesting selection if that's a

1859
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 7: good offensive lineman in the draft too. The kid from

1860
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 7: LSU is an absolute rock star Campbell and then Banks

1861
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 7: out of Texas, like one of those two guys probably

1862
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 7: gonna go in the top five.

1863
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 3: Is gonna be a you.

1864
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 7: Know, a left tackle of the future kind of candidate.

1865
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 7: And again, where does Travis Hunter go? What position does

1866
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 7: he play?

1867
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 6: Like?

1868
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:35,280
Speaker 7: I think you've got some really interesting questions at the

1869
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 7: top of this draft, not only at quarterback, but also

1870
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 7: on defense and upfront with the offensive lineman.

1871
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about that. And I wonder which teams

1872
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:47,640
Speaker 3: when the draft throws around, where Hey, Jaden Daniels as

1873
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 3: special as he was with Washington, as big of an

1874
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 3: impact as he had turning that franchise around. They go

1875
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 3: from four and thirteen to the NFC title game. You know,

1876
01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:59,639
Speaker 3: I wonder what teams at the top of the draft

1877
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 3: that need quarterbacks have that in the back of their

1878
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:06,760
Speaker 3: minds of like, man, if we hit the way Washington did, yep,

1879
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:10,320
Speaker 3: you know, and will that cause them to reach maybe

1880
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 3: a little bit more for cam ward or should do

1881
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 3: her Sanders. I'm not saying they can't play. I'm just

1882
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:18,720
Speaker 3: saying they're not the prospects that a lot of those

1883
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:22,800
Speaker 3: guys in last year's draft were. So I wonder you

1884
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 3: might have a team that says, all right, we're gonna

1885
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 3: we're gonna evaluate these prospects cam Warden should do her

1886
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 3: Sanders honestly, but you might have the hope factor kick in.

1887
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 3: You might have the you know, man, if we hit

1888
01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 3: on this, this could be big, This could be big,

1889
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:40,840
Speaker 3: and they might they might bump them up a little

1890
01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 3: bit in their minds. So that could cause you to

1891
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 3: reach a little bit more when we saw someone as

1892
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:49,560
Speaker 3: electric as Jaden Daniels was last season. Because it's a

1893
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:52,840
Speaker 3: copycat league, you're always trying to copy the next great thing,

1894
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 3: and so we'll see if any teams reach a little

1895
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:58,840
Speaker 3: bit more than they would have. We've got rich O Hoornberger,

1896
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1915
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:05,559
Speaker 3: game for you. Okay, right up your alley. Yeah, Iowa

1916
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 3: State and Houston, because this is a bit of football

1917
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 3: on hardwood here. And the sad thing for Iowa State

1918
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 3: they're without their top two scorers. No Curtis Jones, no

1919
01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:20,720
Speaker 3: Keishawn Gilbert. Jones is out with an illness, Gilbert has

1920
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 3: a muscle strain. And it's they're going up against Houston.

1921
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:27,000
Speaker 3: I could just picture a conversation where it's like, hey,

1922
01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:29,920
Speaker 3: we're down our top two scorers. Oh, that's not good.

1923
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:36,240
Speaker 3: Who we have next? Houston? Not good? Not good at all.

1924
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 3: And points are gonna be hard to come by for

1925
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 3: Iowa State today. They're up against it and they're a

1926
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 3: huge underdog, maybe too big of an underdog. We're talking

1927
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 3: twelve and a half for Iowa State at Houston. But again,

1928
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 3: how are you scoring? Your top two scorers are out

1929
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:54,599
Speaker 3: and you're on the road against Houston. That is a

1930
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 3: horrible spot for Iowa State here.

1931
01:35:57,320 --> 01:35:58,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, it really is.

1932
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 6: They were on the show and have recently got off

1933
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 6: of it, but they're running into a buzz saw here

1934
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 6: and like you said, when you are deficit two of

1935
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:13,880
Speaker 6: your best scorers going against a defense as active as Houston's,

1936
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:17,440
Speaker 6: and then also a team that gets second chance opportunities

1937
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:19,800
Speaker 6: on the offensive glass, and he's really good on the

1938
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:20,839
Speaker 6: defensive boards.

1939
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:21,719
Speaker 5: Good luck.

1940
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 6: You know, the Cougars favored by double digits here, I

1941
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:31,200
Speaker 6: kind of feel like I'd still lean Houston on the spread.

1942
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, totals dropped it ton, no surprise there. I'm seeing

1943
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:38,719
Speaker 7: one twenty nine and a half. Yikes, saw one thirty

1944
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 7: two and a half earlier today.

1945
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 3: I think one.

1946
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 7: Thirty one is kind of where I would draw the

1947
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:46,000
Speaker 7: line in the sand if you can find it for

1948
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:47,559
Speaker 7: an under, maybe a first half under.

1949
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:49,719
Speaker 3: I saw sixty one floating out there. That's not bad.

1950
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:52,759
Speaker 7: Keep in mind, this is not only a terrible spot

1951
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:54,920
Speaker 7: for Iowa, was stated as my two co hosts very

1952
01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:58,479
Speaker 7: eloquently put. This is a massive revenge game. Do you

1953
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 7: remember the Big twelve tournament championship last year where Iowa

1954
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 7: State absolutely obliterated Houston, and Houston was one of the

1955
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 7: best teams in the country. They won that game by

1956
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:12,280
Speaker 7: twenty eight sixty nine to forty one. They held Houston

1957
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:14,960
Speaker 7: to forty one points last year in the and I know,

1958
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 7: the Big twelve Tournament championship when both of those teams

1959
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 7: had NCAA aspirations, Like, it's not the NCUBLEA Final, it's

1960
01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:25,320
Speaker 7: a Big twelve final. But still when you lose a

1961
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 7: game like that on a big stage, in a national audience,

1962
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 7: spotlight game, it was a standalone game a championship Saturday,

1963
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:34,600
Speaker 7: and then you come back the next year and you

1964
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:37,599
Speaker 7: have to play that team when you're shorthanded. I mean,

1965
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:40,760
Speaker 7: you name your price today for Houston, Like, if they

1966
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 7: can drop a fifty and win this game by fifty,

1967
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 7: I think they will. Now I don't think they're going to,

1968
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:48,439
Speaker 7: but they're capable of it if they do play their

1969
01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:50,439
Speaker 7: best game and Iowa State falls off the map. So

1970
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:53,680
Speaker 7: you know the handicapper. This game is very simple. Both

1971
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:56,040
Speaker 7: teams love to defend. Both teams are very gritty. Houston's

1972
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:58,160
Speaker 7: actually a better offensive team this year than they were

1973
01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 7: last year, which is scary for the NCAA tournament.

1974
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:02,759
Speaker 3: And they're coming off a really nice streak.

1975
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:05,439
Speaker 7: Went to Arizona beat Arizona, followed it up with a

1976
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:08,120
Speaker 7: nice win at Arizona State, and they've had a few

1977
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:10,760
Speaker 7: days off since then, so I expect Houston to come

1978
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 7: out nails today, but it's a big number and the

1979
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:16,719
Speaker 7: totals drop, so value wise, I don't think you're making

1980
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:18,680
Speaker 7: a great bet on Houston in the under, even though

1981
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 7: that would be the obvious handicap for this game.

1982
01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:25,480
Speaker 3: It's kind of interesting to me where you look at

1983
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:28,519
Speaker 3: these two games. I'll give you two different games. They

1984
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 3: both have the same first half total. Okay, so Iowa

1985
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 3: State in Houston sixty and a half Tennessee and Texas

1986
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:39,639
Speaker 3: A and M sixty and a half. And that stands

1987
01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:42,960
Speaker 3: out to me because listen, these teams play great defense.

1988
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:46,920
Speaker 3: Iowa State is down their top two scorers, right, and

1989
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 3: it's sixty and a half Tennessee and Texas A and M.

1990
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 3: You laid it out, Jared, you think Texas A and

1991
01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:53,240
Speaker 3: M might open it up a little bit more, at

1992
01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 3: least they're capable of doing that with Wade Taylor. But

1993
01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:59,120
Speaker 3: it's still sixty and a half. Like, how does that

1994
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:01,880
Speaker 3: make sense to you? Like, imagine if A and M

1995
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 3: or Tennessee they were down their top two scorers, that

1996
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:08,280
Speaker 3: would have an impact on the first half total, the

1997
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:11,160
Speaker 3: total for the game. And this Iowa State Houston game,

1998
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 3: it has come down, But it just stands out to me,

1999
01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:17,840
Speaker 3: where sixty and a half for Iowa Houston, same first

2000
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:20,320
Speaker 3: half total for Tennessee, Texas A and M. The difference

2001
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:23,800
Speaker 3: being Iowa State is without their top two scorers on

2002
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:27,519
Speaker 3: the road against freaking Houston. So I don't know, it's

2003
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 3: just interesting to me that it's the same first half

2004
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:30,559
Speaker 3: total for both games.

2005
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:32,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree with you, And if you need any

2006
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:36,839
Speaker 6: more ammunition for the under, Iowa State has scored nearly

2007
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:40,200
Speaker 6: forty percent of their points from the paint. Houston does

2008
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:43,960
Speaker 6: an unbelievable job guarding the paint, in fact, so much

2009
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:46,880
Speaker 6: so that they don't really bother guarding the three point line.

2010
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:49,920
Speaker 6: If you're gonna beat them from perimeter, they'll adjust and

2011
01:39:50,360 --> 01:39:51,800
Speaker 6: you kind of that's.

2012
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 5: The only way to beat them, really.

2013
01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:56,639
Speaker 6: You kind of have to drain perimeter shots, draw them

2014
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 6: out to the three point arc, to loosen things up

2015
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 6: inside to get at the ball in there, because they're

2016
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 6: just good rim protectors. And then on the offensive end,

2017
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:09,519
Speaker 6: you know, especially because they're shorthanded, but also because Houston

2018
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 6: has the edge on the side of size, I think

2019
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:16,080
Speaker 6: that they're gonna turn their backs to the basketball hoop

2020
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:19,519
Speaker 6: they're going to try to back down cyclone defenders and

2021
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:23,040
Speaker 6: get easy buckets. It's gonna be a low scoring game.

2022
01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:27,799
Speaker 6: I think that's all signs are pointing toward that notion.

2023
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:32,720
Speaker 6: I know it's a low total, but that's if you

2024
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:36,240
Speaker 6: think Houston's gonna win. It feels like the total is

2025
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 6: going to stay low.

2026
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:38,599
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2027
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:41,320
Speaker 7: I think the way you laid it out, Brian, with

2028
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:44,679
Speaker 7: the A and M Tennessee disparity with the number compared

2029
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:48,880
Speaker 7: to this Iowa State Houston game like that, that is

2030
01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:52,920
Speaker 7: college basketball handicapping in the nutshell right there. It really is,

2031
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:55,559
Speaker 7: because I think the one thing that isn't taking into

2032
01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:59,799
Speaker 7: account a lot in college hoops is the personnel because

2033
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:03,160
Speaker 7: the injury news comes late and it doesn't always get

2034
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:05,360
Speaker 7: baked in fully to the market. And that's why if

2035
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:08,840
Speaker 7: you can get in front of an injury situation, you

2036
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 7: are in so much better shape in college basketball than

2037
01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:16,160
Speaker 7: maybe a professional basketball or professional football because the injury

2038
01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 7: information is just so much more readily available. How about

2039
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:21,760
Speaker 7: this for a frisky bet, how about Iowa State team

2040
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:25,080
Speaker 7: total under twenty seven and a half in the first half.

2041
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:28,920
Speaker 3: It's just so low, it's so lowly, but it's the

2042
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:29,920
Speaker 3: glow for a reason.

2043
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 5: Probably it is I know it, right, I.

2044
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:33,479
Speaker 3: Think I'm gonna make that bet. I think I have

2045
01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:36,640
Speaker 3: to take the under there, Yeah, under twenty seven and

2046
01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:39,280
Speaker 3: a half team total. Iowa State first half. Look, man,

2047
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:42,559
Speaker 3: it sounds so gross because it is so gross, but

2048
01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:45,400
Speaker 3: you have to think about what you have to do,

2049
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:50,200
Speaker 3: Iowa State. You have to figure out some type of rhythm,

2050
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:54,240
Speaker 3: some type of flow with your top two scorers out

2051
01:41:54,640 --> 01:41:57,920
Speaker 3: against Houston on the road and they're ticked off because

2052
01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:01,960
Speaker 3: they got waxed for the tournament this season prior. You know,

2053
01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:05,280
Speaker 3: that's tough. It's really tough to find your sea legs

2054
01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:07,479
Speaker 3: against the defense as good as Houston, who's going to

2055
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:10,040
Speaker 3: be completely fired up and giving max effort in the

2056
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:11,600
Speaker 3: first half, especially.

2057
01:42:11,240 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 6: Right, let me give you one more stat on you know,

2058
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:17,559
Speaker 6: just pushing everybody toward the under.

2059
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:19,760
Speaker 5: Check this out, okay, Iowa State.

2060
01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 6: They don't take very many three pointers, all right, They're

2061
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:28,880
Speaker 6: one hundred and seventeenth and three point percentage. They're one

2062
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:32,480
Speaker 6: hundred excuse me, two hundred and seventy third in offensive

2063
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:36,920
Speaker 6: three point rate. So again, without their top two shooters

2064
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:40,759
Speaker 6: against the team that guards the paint very well, They're

2065
01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 6: the type of team that really is allergic to scoring

2066
01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 6: from three.

2067
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:45,880
Speaker 5: It's just I mean.

2068
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:48,280
Speaker 6: Again, we could say this and then they can go

2069
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:50,160
Speaker 6: out there and run up you know, one hundred points.

2070
01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:54,360
Speaker 3: There might be one hundred points total scoring.

2071
01:42:54,880 --> 01:43:01,360
Speaker 6: Both crazier things have happened, I'm sure. But this, this, boy,

2072
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:05,080
Speaker 6: this is there's a there's a heavy lean in a direction,

2073
01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:07,160
Speaker 6: and I think we've laid it out.

2074
01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:10,519
Speaker 7: I just bought it under twenty seven, so I don't

2075
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:11,559
Speaker 7: think I'm gonna it won't be one.

2076
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:12,639
Speaker 3: Of my best players of the day.

2077
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 7: I do have some other good looks and rapid fire,

2078
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 7: but under twenty. So Houston scored twenty three in the

2079
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:23,280
Speaker 7: first half in the Big twelve title game last year.

2080
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:26,400
Speaker 3: That feels like the right number for Iowa State in

2081
01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:27,599
Speaker 3: the first half. Twenty three.

2082
01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:29,760
Speaker 7: I think Iowa State scores twenty three points in the

2083
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:32,360
Speaker 7: first half today, Okay, And I just bet.

2084
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:34,080
Speaker 3: The under twenty seven and a half first half. So

2085
01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:35,160
Speaker 3: have fun with that sweat.

2086
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:37,080
Speaker 7: And I don't know when the game starts a couple hours,

2087
01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:37,960
Speaker 7: how fun with that one.

2088
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:40,960
Speaker 3: It's crazy too, because man, what game was it? It

2089
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:45,000
Speaker 3: was a couple of weeks ago. I took the Johnnies

2090
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:47,120
Speaker 3: were at home, and I can't remember. They might have

2091
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:49,400
Speaker 3: been playing Marquette. I can't remember off the top of

2092
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 3: my head, but I took Marquette similar situation Jared, where

2093
01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:56,840
Speaker 3: it was the first half under and like they were

2094
01:43:56,880 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 3: cruising toward it. They just needed maybe one more point

2095
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:02,760
Speaker 3: in the final couple of minutes, and I'm like, this

2096
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:06,479
Speaker 3: is dead and you'll be shocked how unders will get there.

2097
01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 3: And a lot of college basketball games these first half unders,

2098
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:12,720
Speaker 3: oh yeah, get right, And it depends, it depends on

2099
01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:16,560
Speaker 3: the matchup. Certainly, it's not gonna be like like Alabama

2100
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:18,760
Speaker 3: only needed a point with like three and a half

2101
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:21,439
Speaker 3: minutes to go against Kentucky. Man, I can't believe it

2102
01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:23,479
Speaker 3: got there with the under, Like that's not the game

2103
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 3: for that, you know, But there are other games for that,

2104
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 3: and it very well could be this Iowa State Houston game.

2105
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:33,800
Speaker 6: And to your point, you watch those unders hit all

2106
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:36,160
Speaker 6: the time in college basketball because at the end of

2107
01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:38,800
Speaker 6: the half you oftentimes see this and you see it

2108
01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:41,760
Speaker 6: in football all the time where a team just is

2109
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:44,760
Speaker 6: sort of relenting, like, all right, we do need to

2110
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 6: get to the tunnel and figure things out. So there's

2111
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:51,240
Speaker 6: a lot more dribbling, shot selection. You know, it's it.

2112
01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:53,680
Speaker 6: You're milking the clock. You're just trying to get to

2113
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:56,719
Speaker 6: intermission so you can fix things, and so yeah, it's

2114
01:44:56,760 --> 01:45:00,799
Speaker 6: a it's it's a gross out, Jared.

2115
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 5: You know, twenty sevenutes that.

2116
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:05,639
Speaker 6: Is going to be a sweat, But honestly, who knows.

2117
01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:08,479
Speaker 6: You may not be sweating it once tip off comes.

2118
01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:12,759
Speaker 7: It's rare that I bet a college basketball team total

2119
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:14,599
Speaker 7: that resembles an NFL score.

2120
01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:18,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, seven, not exact.

2121
01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:21,800
Speaker 7: Usually we're in the sixties or that, like, not exactly

2122
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:23,040
Speaker 7: a twenty seven and a half.

2123
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:24,040
Speaker 3: No there.

2124
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 7: Honestly, I think we get so many college basketball numbers

2125
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:30,080
Speaker 7: that get thrown out us here.

2126
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:32,320
Speaker 3: There's this is there's so.

2127
01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:36,720
Speaker 7: Many revenge situational angles that matter more Like in the

2128
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:38,840
Speaker 7: NFL college football, we're trying to get the three, we're

2129
01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 7: trying to get the seven, We're trying to get the

2130
01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:40,559
Speaker 7: right number.

2131
01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:42,640
Speaker 3: I think in college basketball.

2132
01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:45,920
Speaker 7: I stress this now because a lot of average casual

2133
01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 7: fans are going to start to get really invested over the.

2134
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:48,679
Speaker 3: Next few weeks.

2135
01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 7: Situations and matchups matter more than getting the best number

2136
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:55,320
Speaker 7: and being the sharpest guy in the room. Like it

2137
01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:58,120
Speaker 7: just sometimes these things scream at you in the face,

2138
01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:00,920
Speaker 7: and you have to try to handicap the matchups and

2139
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:03,040
Speaker 7: were at the end of day, we're handicapping teenagers, and

2140
01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 7: like the volatility of this sport is insane. It's all

2141
01:46:06,040 --> 01:46:08,360
Speaker 7: about the matchups, It's all about the situations.

2142
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:10,040
Speaker 3: This is a terrible spot for.

2143
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:13,120
Speaker 7: Iowa State today, like the grossest of gross spots. Not

2144
01:46:13,160 --> 01:46:15,360
Speaker 7: only are out the two best players, but the revenge

2145
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:19,759
Speaker 7: angle for Houston is just so important to talk about.

2146
01:46:20,080 --> 01:46:21,680
Speaker 7: And that's why it's gonna be a tough If you're

2147
01:46:21,680 --> 01:46:24,439
Speaker 7: a cyclone fan listening to the show, you might want

2148
01:46:24,439 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 7: to buckle up. It might be a tough day for you.

2149
01:46:26,840 --> 01:46:28,080
Speaker 7: It looks like it's going to be.

2150
01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:30,160
Speaker 3: Hey, we wanted to carve out a little bit of

2151
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 3: time for an epic rant PK Sue Man. He was

2152
01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:39,160
Speaker 3: on first take and what he had to say about

2153
01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:43,559
Speaker 3: comparing the NBA to the to the NHL. He made

2154
01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:46,920
Speaker 3: some sensational points Man, and you might be an NBA

2155
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:50,200
Speaker 3: guy like me, but you can't argue with what he

2156
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:53,120
Speaker 3: was talking about, So we wanted to throw it your way.

2157
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:56,200
Speaker 3: Where of course, this is the backdrop is the NBA

2158
01:46:56,400 --> 01:47:00,679
Speaker 3: All Star Weekend was not great, the All Star Game bad.

2159
01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:03,759
Speaker 3: And then you have the NHL with this four Nations

2160
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:06,960
Speaker 3: face off, and these players and these teams are giving

2161
01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:10,280
Speaker 3: max effort, just leaving it all out on the ice.

2162
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:12,560
Speaker 3: And so that was the backdrop of this rant, just

2163
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:15,880
Speaker 3: kind of comparing the two and how the NBA is

2164
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:19,000
Speaker 3: basically going through the motions a lot of times with

2165
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:22,200
Speaker 3: some of their marquee events. So here's PK. Su ban

2166
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:23,959
Speaker 3: on first take.

2167
01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:27,960
Speaker 9: You're really about sports, then you're about two things, your

2168
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:31,679
Speaker 9: teammates and the fans. And I'm sorry, it doesn't matter

2169
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:34,719
Speaker 9: how much money you're making. When you do not show

2170
01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:37,120
Speaker 9: up to play, you're letting your teammates down.

2171
01:47:37,320 --> 01:47:39,439
Speaker 11: When you do not show up to play, you're.

2172
01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:42,599
Speaker 9: Letting the fans down that are paying you forty fifty

2173
01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:46,479
Speaker 9: sixty million. I don't care if you're getting three hundred million, congratulations,

2174
01:47:46,760 --> 01:47:49,599
Speaker 9: but these people in here are paying twenty five hundred

2175
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:53,960
Speaker 9: dollars a ticket five grand that are blue collared, hardworking people.

2176
01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:56,440
Speaker 11: If you don't get your head wrapped around.

2177
01:47:56,160 --> 01:47:58,640
Speaker 9: That, you shouldn't be in pro sports because how are

2178
01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:02,240
Speaker 9: we going to grow want athletes to be educated on

2179
01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:04,920
Speaker 9: this and understand this. They got to understand the importance

2180
01:48:05,080 --> 01:48:07,200
Speaker 9: of showing up to the All Star Game and being

2181
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:10,679
Speaker 9: on the court and playing bang duck sometimes and playing

2182
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:13,920
Speaker 9: injured maybe at times, thank you, and participating because here's

2183
01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:16,760
Speaker 9: the thing, because you're making one hundred two hundred three

2184
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:19,240
Speaker 9: hundred million, you should be out there banged up.

2185
01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:22,519
Speaker 11: You should be. That's why we pay you is to

2186
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:23,400
Speaker 11: max out.

2187
01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:26,200
Speaker 9: We talk about greatness and it being the longevity of

2188
01:48:26,240 --> 01:48:29,559
Speaker 9: somebody's career. I don't care if you play fifty years.

2189
01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:32,640
Speaker 9: I want your best ten. I want you on the

2190
01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:35,400
Speaker 9: court dominating. I want you to go all out. I

2191
01:48:35,439 --> 01:48:38,400
Speaker 9: want Michael Jordan, I want Kolbe. That's what I want

2192
01:48:38,439 --> 01:48:41,160
Speaker 9: in every sport. That's the guy that I follow. You're

2193
01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:43,599
Speaker 9: a different version than that. You don't get my respect.

2194
01:48:44,720 --> 01:48:47,639
Speaker 3: I love the rant, I absolutely love it. He makes

2195
01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 3: some great points, and to me, it's I think about

2196
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:56,639
Speaker 3: how NHL, how NHL guys must look at a lot

2197
01:48:56,680 --> 01:49:00,719
Speaker 3: of NBA guys, it must drive them crazy think of NHL.

2198
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 3: It is all out. It is leaving it on the

2199
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 3: freaking ice right. We're not trying to load, manage and

2200
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:11,599
Speaker 3: extend careers. It's like it's tonight, baby, We're going all out.

2201
01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:14,479
Speaker 3: And when you hear like load management and we're not

2202
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:18,280
Speaker 3: participating in this event or this All Star game. It's

2203
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:21,160
Speaker 3: got to drive him crazy, and it does. As an

2204
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:23,680
Speaker 3: NBA fan, I think about what the NBA could be

2205
01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:26,280
Speaker 3: that All Star weekend. Think about it if they were

2206
01:49:26,400 --> 01:49:29,960
Speaker 3: fully committed and giving effort, what it could be. They've

2207
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:33,519
Speaker 3: talked about a US versus the World All Star format.

2208
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:35,840
Speaker 3: If they really committed to it and they were giving

2209
01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:38,880
Speaker 3: honest effort, that would be a cool event. I look

2210
01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:41,559
Speaker 3: at the Dunk Contest. We got Mac McClung in a

2211
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:45,000
Speaker 3: bunch of known names. If you have stars competing and

2212
01:49:45,080 --> 01:49:48,040
Speaker 3: trying to showcase the game, that's big. I would love

2213
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:50,360
Speaker 3: for them. This would be amazing if they did the

2214
01:49:50,479 --> 01:49:53,559
Speaker 3: unrivaled league what they are doing the women. They have

2215
01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 3: one on one tournament. Can you imagine how big that

2216
01:49:56,360 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 3: would be for the NBA If you had a legitimate

2217
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:02,840
Speaker 3: one on one tournament and stars are going out there

2218
01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:05,439
Speaker 3: and giving legit effort. And I can just hear people

2219
01:50:05,439 --> 01:50:08,000
Speaker 3: at being like, yeah, but that's not gonna happen. Yeah,

2220
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:11,280
Speaker 3: that's the point. If they did commit to it, it

2221
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:15,560
Speaker 3: would be huge one on one. When you think about it,

2222
01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:20,559
Speaker 3: it's such a cool thing that's other sports just don't have, right, right,

2223
01:50:21,320 --> 01:50:23,720
Speaker 3: you just don't have that in other sports that can

2224
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:28,559
Speaker 3: recreate that. It's such a part of basketball where it's

2225
01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:32,160
Speaker 3: my best against your best, let's see what happens, and

2226
01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:35,320
Speaker 3: it's a whole styles makes fights thing. It'd be a

2227
01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:38,519
Speaker 3: lot of fun if they committed to it, but they're

2228
01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:41,960
Speaker 3: not going to like as fans, there's a my dad

2229
01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:44,479
Speaker 3: can beat up your dad type vibe to one on

2230
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:48,920
Speaker 3: one and so if you had legit buy in US

2231
01:50:49,040 --> 01:50:52,599
Speaker 3: versus the World Dunk contest one on one, it would

2232
01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:56,200
Speaker 3: be an amazing weekend. But they just rather not bother.

2233
01:50:57,080 --> 01:50:59,439
Speaker 3: It's just it's so sad where it is and.

2234
01:50:59,400 --> 01:50:59,840
Speaker 5: What it could.

2235
01:51:00,479 --> 01:51:03,280
Speaker 6: I agree, I won hundred percent agree with everything you

2236
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:06,599
Speaker 6: just said. I want one hundred percent agree with everything

2237
01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:07,719
Speaker 6: Peken PK.

2238
01:51:07,880 --> 01:51:12,120
Speaker 5: Suban said. I think that when you look at these two.

2239
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:15,840
Speaker 6: Sports, I mean, for example, uh uh, whatever you want.

2240
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:16,000
Speaker 5: To call it.

2241
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:19,920
Speaker 6: An analyst note that still comes up during hockey broadcast

2242
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:22,640
Speaker 6: is a Gordy Howe hat trick, you know, which is

2243
01:51:22,680 --> 01:51:25,200
Speaker 6: measured when you score a goal, assist on another, and

2244
01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:26,880
Speaker 6: get into a fight in the same game.

2245
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:29,760
Speaker 5: Like that's that you.

2246
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:31,439
Speaker 6: Know you spend a couple of minutes in the penalty

2247
01:51:31,479 --> 01:51:35,240
Speaker 6: box because your own fisticuffs with somebody like you're you're,

2248
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:39,160
Speaker 6: you're hearkening back to one of the greats in the

2249
01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:43,800
Speaker 6: game and acknowledging that he wasn't just a participant in

2250
01:51:44,439 --> 01:51:47,080
Speaker 6: I don't want to call it the fluff because scoring

2251
01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:51,599
Speaker 6: goals and assists those are important statistics too, but also

2252
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:55,320
Speaker 6: he was mired in the fight. He was interested in

2253
01:51:55,400 --> 01:51:58,439
Speaker 6: mucking it up. He wanted and and it's and it's

2254
01:51:58,520 --> 01:52:01,400
Speaker 6: a badge that you know, if you score Gordy hal

2255
01:52:01,439 --> 01:52:04,040
Speaker 6: Hat trick and hockey and modern day hockey, it's just

2256
01:52:04,080 --> 01:52:06,160
Speaker 6: as important to these players now as it was then

2257
01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:11,240
Speaker 6: in the NBA. I'm sure these players they hear, you know,

2258
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:14,240
Speaker 6: you know, and you know they'll they'll talk about it sometimes. Yeah,

2259
01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:16,360
Speaker 6: the old heads always say that we don't, we don't

2260
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:18,840
Speaker 6: play the way they did, and it's almost like, you know,

2261
01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:22,120
Speaker 6: they click their teeth out. I'm like, nah, yeah, that

2262
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:24,840
Speaker 6: we're beyond that. It's like no, no, no, you're you're not.

2263
01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:27,720
Speaker 6: You're not because that was when the NBA was at

2264
01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:31,400
Speaker 6: its most entertaining. Like that, that was the NBA that

2265
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:35,599
Speaker 6: the fans who currently support you the most. That's where

2266
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:39,400
Speaker 6: we got hooked. You're losing the young generation in this country.

2267
01:52:39,640 --> 01:52:42,880
Speaker 6: You just are instead of watching the NBA, they're turning

2268
01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:46,240
Speaker 6: to playing it on their video game screen because frankly,

2269
01:52:46,600 --> 01:52:49,800
Speaker 6: it's the same sport. You know, the human interest has

2270
01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:52,559
Speaker 6: been sucked out of it because you don't know if

2271
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:55,240
Speaker 6: your favorite player is gonna even be playing. I can't

2272
01:52:55,240 --> 01:52:57,360
Speaker 6: tell you how many times, you know, I'm turning on

2273
01:52:57,400 --> 01:53:00,200
Speaker 6: a Laker game and I'm talking to my kids to

2274
01:53:00,280 --> 01:53:01,720
Speaker 6: have a nine year old and a six year old

2275
01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:04,320
Speaker 6: about Lebron James or some of the other stars that

2276
01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:07,080
Speaker 6: have passed through, and there are times.

2277
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:08,679
Speaker 5: Where I'm like, oh, I guess he's not playing tonight.

2278
01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:13,160
Speaker 6: You know, like you're just like it's it's a constant

2279
01:53:13,240 --> 01:53:17,719
Speaker 6: letdown and and that's how we're conditioned as human beings.

2280
01:53:18,439 --> 01:53:22,080
Speaker 6: When you show up and somebody doesn't show up for you,

2281
01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:25,000
Speaker 6: eventually you stop showing up for them too.

2282
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:27,280
Speaker 5: And that's what it feels like in the NBA.

2283
01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 7: I mean money, money is what is you know we

2284
01:53:30,520 --> 01:53:33,000
Speaker 7: talk about in college football, money is mutated the sport.

2285
01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:35,400
Speaker 7: It's the same thing in the NBA. So in the

2286
01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:37,840
Speaker 7: nineteen eighty season, the average NBA salary was like one

2287
01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:40,080
Speaker 7: hundred and seventy five thousand dollars a year, and I

2288
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:42,240
Speaker 7: know inflation and all that stuff, but now we're in

2289
01:53:42,280 --> 01:53:45,160
Speaker 7: the the ten fifteen million dollar range for these act

2290
01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:51,400
Speaker 7: for the average NBA player, not the stars. It's when

2291
01:53:51,479 --> 01:53:53,479
Speaker 7: and the NHL doesn't make that much money, like they're not,

2292
01:53:53,600 --> 01:53:56,960
Speaker 7: as you know, lucrative of a sport with their contracts.

2293
01:53:57,000 --> 01:53:59,280
Speaker 7: So it's just it's like a totally different vibe. And

2294
01:53:59,320 --> 01:54:01,960
Speaker 7: these guys entitlement. It's a lot of entitlement.

2295
01:54:02,439 --> 01:54:05,840
Speaker 3: You're right, you're right, And it's like, I'm like, PK,

2296
01:54:06,040 --> 01:54:09,000
Speaker 3: how can you be making two hundred three hundred million

2297
01:54:09,120 --> 01:54:11,960
Speaker 3: and not give max effort? How can that be the case?

2298
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:16,639
Speaker 3: NHL guys are scratching and clog and they're making a fraction. Yep,

2299
01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:19,240
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's crazy. Hey, shortly after the show,

2300
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:21,400
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01:54:33,600 --> 01:54:36,560
Speaker 3: off the air. We've got Rich Orenberger three and oh

2307
01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:40,200
Speaker 3: Rich last week in Rapid Fire starting off the non

2308
01:54:40,280 --> 01:54:45,080
Speaker 3: basketball season in style. Fire Man, it's a good goode.

2309
01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:47,320
Speaker 5: I've been on a heater, boys really have been.

2310
01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:57,000
Speaker 3: Actually I'm expecting I can't. You can fully that's the

2311
01:54:57,040 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 3: most predictable probably said all day. Got Jared Smith FSR,

2312
01:55:02,160 --> 01:55:05,080
Speaker 3: betting analyst. I'm Brian No Coming up next Rapid Fire,

2313
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Speaker 3: your podcasts. You'll see this show posted right after we

2321
01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:32,640
Speaker 3: get off the year. Props to the crew, Bo Benson,

2322
01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:37,520
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Speaker 3: guy Sager on digital posting our clips does a great job.

2325
01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:50,360
Speaker 3: Top of the hour up on Game LaVar Arrington, TJ. Hushman,

2326
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Speaker 3: locked right here on Fox Sports Radio. Have we got

2328
01:55:56,200 --> 01:55:57,640
Speaker 3: some picks to make. Let's do it.

2329
01:56:00,520 --> 01:56:01,400
Speaker 1: Rapid fire?

2330
01:56:02,480 --> 01:56:05,560
Speaker 3: All right, Jared, what are your three best picks here

2331
01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:08,320
Speaker 3: todayybody just put me down for whatever Rich bets because

2332
01:56:08,320 --> 01:56:10,160
Speaker 3: obviously this guy's on fire right now. So I'm just

2333
01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:13,200
Speaker 3: get a tetonomous kid. Let's go to the soakon.

2334
01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:16,760
Speaker 7: We'll go a first half under here, Greensboro Mercer under

2335
01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:18,640
Speaker 7: sixty eight and a half in the first half. So

2336
01:56:18,720 --> 01:56:20,760
Speaker 7: I think if you're going into March and you're looking

2337
01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:23,480
Speaker 7: at tempo's, I think it's easier to slow a team

2338
01:56:23,520 --> 01:56:26,040
Speaker 7: down than it is to speed them up. Greensboro plays

2339
01:56:26,120 --> 01:56:29,680
Speaker 7: really slow. Mercer the fastest tempo and conference play, but

2340
01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:32,400
Speaker 7: they're not very efficient on offense. Just because you take

2341
01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:35,280
Speaker 7: quick shots doesn't mean they're good shots. And they also

2342
01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:37,280
Speaker 7: don't get to the free throw line of ton. The

2343
01:56:37,320 --> 01:56:39,560
Speaker 7: first game last month was a high scoring game between

2344
01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:41,720
Speaker 7: these two teams. I think this one's gonna be lower scoring.

2345
01:56:41,800 --> 01:56:44,360
Speaker 7: Under sixty eight and a half in the first half

2346
01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:47,040
Speaker 7: between Greensboro and Mercer. All right, let's go to the

2347
01:56:47,040 --> 01:56:49,440
Speaker 7: Grand Canyon Daily double. I love this Grand Canyon team.

2348
01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:51,160
Speaker 7: They won a game in the tournament last year, gave

2349
01:56:51,160 --> 01:56:54,000
Speaker 7: Bama a really tough game in the round of thirty two.

2350
01:56:54,080 --> 01:56:57,080
Speaker 7: Today they're facing cal Baptist. I think they're gonna roll

2351
01:56:57,160 --> 01:56:59,400
Speaker 7: cal Baptists. So first, we're gonna bet the team total

2352
01:56:59,640 --> 01:57:02,480
Speaker 7: over seventy nine and a half. Again, this is also

2353
01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:05,480
Speaker 7: a revenge game because Grand Canyon lost to cal Baptist

2354
01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:07,880
Speaker 7: two weeks ago, and this cal Baptis team they give

2355
01:57:07,960 --> 01:57:10,440
Speaker 7: up a ton of free throws. That's where Grand Canyon excels.

2356
01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:12,160
Speaker 7: They get to the line a ton, top ten free

2357
01:57:12,200 --> 01:57:14,800
Speaker 7: throw rate on the year. I think Grand Canyon gets

2358
01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:16,720
Speaker 7: to eighty today against cal Baptists.

2359
01:57:16,720 --> 01:57:18,160
Speaker 3: And I told you it's a daily double.

2360
01:57:18,320 --> 01:57:20,320
Speaker 7: We're gonna lay the ten and a half with Grand

2361
01:57:20,360 --> 01:57:24,280
Speaker 7: Canyon against cal Baptists. The Lopes are legit Tyan Grant

2362
01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:26,360
Speaker 7: Foster is an NBA caliber player.

2363
01:57:26,440 --> 01:57:28,840
Speaker 3: You're gonna see him overwhelm the Lancers today.

2364
01:57:28,840 --> 01:57:30,880
Speaker 7: So Grand Canyon minus ten and a half, team total

2365
01:57:30,920 --> 01:57:33,440
Speaker 7: over seventy nine and a half, Greensboro Mercer under sixty

2366
01:57:33,480 --> 01:57:34,720
Speaker 7: eight and a half in the first half.

2367
01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:37,080
Speaker 6: All right, I'm gonna give you some broad strokes here

2368
01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:40,920
Speaker 6: in terms of why I feel these games are gonna

2369
01:57:40,960 --> 01:57:45,320
Speaker 6: go the way they are. Houston Iowa State. Houston Cougars

2370
01:57:45,600 --> 01:57:50,320
Speaker 6: want revenge. They're hosting the Cyclones. Cyclones down two scores,

2371
01:57:50,600 --> 01:57:52,120
Speaker 6: Houston plays great defense.

2372
01:57:52,520 --> 01:57:55,280
Speaker 5: Give me the Cougars. Favored by twelve in this one.

2373
01:57:55,480 --> 01:57:58,960
Speaker 6: San Diego State on the road against Utah State. They

2374
01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:02,560
Speaker 6: need this win like blood. They have no margin for era.

2375
01:58:03,400 --> 01:58:06,640
Speaker 6: They're dog six points. I'm I'm gonna take the points,

2376
01:58:07,000 --> 01:58:10,320
Speaker 6: Give me the six. This is a team that's on

2377
01:58:10,360 --> 01:58:13,440
Speaker 6: the brink. They're a bubble team. They're going to fight

2378
01:58:13,520 --> 01:58:16,440
Speaker 6: their asses off in this game. Moving on to Duke

2379
01:58:16,640 --> 01:58:20,800
Speaker 6: hosting Illinois in Madison Square Garden. I think Duke rolls here.

2380
01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:24,200
Speaker 6: They're on a roll in conference. Favored nine and a half.

2381
01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:25,440
Speaker 6: I'll take the Duke.

2382
01:58:25,520 --> 01:58:32,240
Speaker 3: Yes, Wow, okay, I'm going over over over WHOA what

2383
01:58:32,360 --> 01:58:35,040
Speaker 3: was it? Damn Yankees? Can you take me?

2384
01:58:36,920 --> 01:58:39,360
Speaker 7: I say, wow, Wow, your voice just cracked on that one.

2385
01:58:39,560 --> 01:58:40,960
Speaker 7: I never did sing before either.

2386
01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:44,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't ever want to hear me not singing

2387
01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:47,760
Speaker 3: at all. It's I don't know how I got through

2388
01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:51,360
Speaker 3: a sight singing class for a minor in classical guitar.

2389
01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:55,160
Speaker 3: They just had mercy on me. I can't sing karaoke

2390
01:58:55,360 --> 01:58:57,840
Speaker 3: night soon. You don't want to do that. I'll go.

2391
01:58:58,040 --> 01:59:00,960
Speaker 3: I'll go, but just prepared to have a laugh at me,

2392
01:59:01,080 --> 01:59:04,800
Speaker 3: you know. Okay, I'm gonna go. I'm doubling down Great

2393
01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:08,280
Speaker 3: Awesibor from Washington big man over eight and a half

2394
01:59:08,320 --> 01:59:12,839
Speaker 3: rebounds today it's happening. Iowa's not great on the class Okay,

2395
01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:15,720
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stick with that same game. Give me Washington

2396
01:59:15,800 --> 01:59:20,680
Speaker 3: Iowa first half over seventy four and a half. I

2397
01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:23,480
Speaker 3: expect points to be scored in this game, so I'll

2398
01:59:23,520 --> 01:59:25,000
Speaker 3: go with the first half right there. I think they

2399
01:59:25,080 --> 01:59:27,760
Speaker 3: get off to a hot start, and I'll stick with points.

2400
01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:31,560
Speaker 3: Common theme today. Give me BYU Arizona. It's ticked down

2401
01:59:31,560 --> 01:59:34,560
Speaker 3: a little bit during the show today. I'll hop ont it.

2402
01:59:34,760 --> 01:59:38,400
Speaker 3: Give me over one fifty two and a half. These

2403
01:59:38,440 --> 01:59:42,360
Speaker 3: are the third and fourth teams in terms of scoring

2404
01:59:42,360 --> 01:59:44,400
Speaker 3: in the Big twelve, so I think this is an

2405
01:59:44,440 --> 01:59:47,560
Speaker 3: offensive battle in this one. So there you go, Great

2406
01:59:48,880 --> 01:59:52,040
Speaker 3: Washington Iowa over BYU Arizona.

2407
01:59:51,560 --> 01:59:53,360
Speaker 5: Over Great Awesomer.

2408
01:59:53,680 --> 01:59:55,879
Speaker 7: I Wishteel you had plenty of time to do this handicap.

2409
01:59:55,880 --> 01:59:58,080
Speaker 7: You weren't rushed today stretching your legs out there.

2410
01:59:58,120 --> 02:00:02,600
Speaker 6: I wish my first name was great, great Ornbergernberger.

2411
02:00:02,840 --> 02:00:03,800
Speaker 5: I don't know Flicky.

2412
02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:06,040
Speaker 3: Dicky's pretty good. I'm a big fan of your you're

2413
02:00:06,040 --> 02:00:11,440
Speaker 3: a nickname. No, I had time to drink coffee with

2414
02:00:11,520 --> 02:00:12,440
Speaker 3: Mayo right here.

2415
02:00:12,480 --> 02:00:13,880
Speaker 5: This is amazing, all this time.

2416
02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:15,640
Speaker 3: At the end, everybody enjoyed the ball.