1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to bet your Happy Hour. I'm 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Joe and I'm Serena, and we are here with the 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: lovely Rachel. Rachel. Welcome. 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: Hey guys, thank you, thank you. I'm so excited. 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 3: We're so excited too, Welcome to Happy Hour. I heard 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 3: is this true that you didn't wear any makeup on 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 3: the show. 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: Like very seldom. I think I wore only at rost ceremonious. 9 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 4: Oh my god. And did you just wear you were 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 4: your hair natural the whole time? 11 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: I did, but like night one, I have my hair 12 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: naturals curly. I wore down. I think a couple of 13 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 2: the times I wore down, and then I think as 14 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 2: the show progressed, I probably got lazy and I was like, 15 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna bun it, yeah, because I sleeped it 16 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: back because it was just easy. Like curls, you just 17 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: it's just such a hassle. 18 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 4: Curls. 19 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 3: They also just like you never know what you're gonna 20 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: get a few hours later, you know what I mean, 21 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 3: Like I get it, like the weather, they're temperamental. 22 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 4: So I'm with you on that. 23 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: I will say, I will I will say Rachel. Serena 24 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: definitely was talking shit because she heard you didn't wear makeup. 25 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: She's like, she's definitely not makeup on right now? 26 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 4: Yeah I did. 27 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: I just didn't. 28 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 3: I was like, there's no but that. I was honestly 29 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 3: looking at your face the whole season. I was like, 30 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 3: I actually think that those are just her natural lips 31 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: and eyelashes. 32 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 4: They are you are well. 33 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 2: I mean at the rest ceremonies, I had like I 34 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: only work and see her and blush and mass her. 35 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: I don't know which to makeup. I you know what 36 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: girls get ready? I was like, you. 37 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 3: Literally must be. I mean, Paradise is one thing, like 38 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 3: it's so hard makeup. No, I don't wear a lot 39 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: of makeup and I didn't wear a lot of makeup 40 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: on the show, And I honestly stopped wearing makeup on Paradise. 41 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 4: I got so freaking tired of doing it. 42 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: But on The Bachelors right Now, well, I mean I 43 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: like makeup, but I like I'm like a light, natural 44 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: makeup girly on a day to day. But on the show, 45 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: I was definitely doing like a full face, you. 46 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 4: Know, contour, liner, the works. 47 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: I don't know how to do that. 48 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 4: You don't need it, do you look? You do not 49 00:01:58,600 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 4: need it. You look beautiful. 50 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: Good. Thank you. 51 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk. You live in California, right. 52 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: I do seven California. 53 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and how did you get on the show? 54 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: So I've never seen the show. I actually don't know 55 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: who Joey was at all. It's my best friend who's 56 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 2: also my roommate. She watches the show like she was 57 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: up on Mondays like Bacher Monday. I was like, yeas 58 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: one with that girl. I'm gonna go read my book. 59 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: And I remember I was laying in bed and she 60 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 2: sent me a video. She's like, you're never going to 61 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 2: believe this. Shoe Be Crossey today is a bacher. I said, who. 62 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: She's like, don't worry, he's amazing. He's like, I'm gonna 63 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: nominate you. You're gonna You're gonna do it. And I 64 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: was like, they'll never pick me because I'm like such 65 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: a I feel like I'm not like the most aesthetic 66 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: type of girl. I kind of just am out of 67 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: the box, like behind the scenes type of person. And 68 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: then I got picked and the rest is history. 69 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 4: I guess that's amazing. Shout out to the. 70 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: Room, Shout out to Noel. That's my girl. Maybe great 71 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 2: girl up and best friends for like thirteen years. So 72 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: oh my god. 73 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: Okay, it was you saying you'd never watch the show. 74 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: Then once she nominates you and you get chosen, did 75 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: you like go and like watch a few episodes to 76 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: kind of prep I. 77 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 2: Did see Sorry, Joey, I did see him about to 78 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: go on one knee. She showed me that clip because 79 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: she was like, you have to kind of know the 80 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 2: history behind why he is who he is, and so 81 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 2: I saw that and I was just like okay. So 82 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 2: I was like, so I'm going to date this guy 83 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: with everybody else. I was like, okay, And that's kind 84 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 2: of you tried to prepare me, but I think I 85 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: was so caught up with it was such a quick process, 86 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 2: like everything was. I don't think I absorbed what she 87 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: was telling me. So when I got to like the mansion, 88 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: I was kind of, what's the first impression? Rose? What 89 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: is a group date? Rose? I don't know what any 90 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: of these things were. 91 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: So gotcha, Well, it's so interesting the different scale of 92 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: people that go on this show and like how much 93 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: and how little, Like I feel like you didn't know 94 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 3: a lot, but you had a best friend who was 95 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: kind of like giving you the GISTs, like the vibe, 96 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: the breakdown. She obviously is a fan. She's not going 97 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 3: to nominate you if she doesn't think like you and 98 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: handle it. And then I feel like, who was it 99 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: that Autumn? I feel like Autumn is like a super fan. 100 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: I feel like she literally was having the time of 101 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: her life. She was living her dream. 102 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 4: Am I right? 103 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: I love her? Yeah? She was. 104 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 3: She was having the best time. I was like, I 105 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 3: feel like, this girl's watched the show her whole life. 106 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 3: And then you got like Dowton, who was on a 107 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: past season. He's the one who ended up with Charity, 108 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 3: which is yeah, and. 109 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: She was halfway through that engagement. 110 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, halfway through he was like, oh we get engaged here. 111 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 3: She was like, yeah, sure, I'm down, like love this girl, 112 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 3: let's do it. But that he's an exception, like that 113 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 3: is like usually it doesn't go that way. 114 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of crazy. I think you should know that. 115 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, how where was your headspace going onto the 116 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: show thinking that there's you could potentially get engaged at 117 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: the end. 118 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I've been a relationship where I was almost 119 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 2: engaged once. So I Micha love a girl at heart. 120 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: I love to be in love. So the idea of 121 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 2: coming on as a show and meeting Joey and him 122 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: and I've fallen through each other, I thought it could 123 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 2: be the best thing ever also the worst thing, and 124 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: so my mindset was just why not I could end 125 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: up how it should. Honestly, it did in the most 126 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: beautiful way despite the outcome. 127 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: Are you Are you typically a person that will take 128 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: a big risk? 129 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: I do. I'm kind of a full Sain type of person, 130 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: like I think before I jump, and I'm also like, 131 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: let's just jump them no matter what the outcome. It's 132 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: probably a toxic trade of mind, to be honest, but. 133 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you break your jaws. 134 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: I mean, jumping in my recent experience has not been 135 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: the best. 136 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 4: But how high was do you know how high it was? 137 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: Okay, I feel like when you watch it doesn't look 138 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 2: that high, but I'm also cheing a part of heights, 139 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: So I want to say I could be wrong. It 140 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: has to be more than twenty feet. I want to say, yeah, 141 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: that sounds like a lot, but it was kind of 142 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: a lot. 143 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that does sound like Honestly, my sister was 144 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 3: it was like straight ten meters. It's not ten meters, 145 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: like there's no way, and I was like, yeah, I 146 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 3: guess you're right what you said it was. 147 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 4: I was like, I feel it's. 148 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 3: Probably like ten meters, but like, I also feel like 149 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 3: when you're looking at it, you're right, it doesn't look 150 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 3: as tall as it probably was. 151 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's like damn yeah. 152 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 2: And then back home, I was telling them, like, when 153 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 2: I jump off rocks back home in Hawaii, the water's 154 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: always moving, so like if you jump in, it's just 155 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: like whatever it spashally do. But this water was so still, 156 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: and I think I just I clocked my head just 157 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 2: in the wrong way and it felt like I hit 158 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: concrete and it felt like it was water. So that's 159 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 2: kind of what happened. 160 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: And how long How long did you live in Hawaii 161 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: before coming to California. 162 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: I was born and raised in Hawaii, So I left 163 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: home when I was eighteen. My poor parents. I was like, bye, guys, 164 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go take off. And yeah, I've always been 165 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 2: just like a nomad in my family. I like the 166 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: idea of kind of branching out, figuring out things on 167 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: my own. So I moved to California when I was eighteen, 168 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: and then I move to Maine for two years. Never again, 169 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: not for you, No, it was too cold. I had 170 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: a lot of hard experiences there. I had a really 171 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: tough relationship I had, you know, just I looked very 172 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: different than most of the people who lived there, so 173 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: I had a hard time kind of fitting in. And 174 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: then I moved to Washington State and I'm back in California. 175 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: Is the end game or do not know? Do you 176 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: want to end up in Hawaii or are you kind 177 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: of just down to go wherever the world takes you. 178 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: I would love to settle down Hawaii. I love the 179 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: culture of how I was raised. It's just like a 180 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: very different upbringing back there than it is in the mainland. 181 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: And I know it's kind of hard for people, like 182 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: when I date, They're Hawaii so expensive and it's secluded. 183 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: But I want the best of both worlds. I always 184 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: wanted to have a family there but also be able 185 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: to travel back and forth, which is why I do 186 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: travel nursing, because I can go home into the mainland whenever. 187 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: But I'm also open to whatever it feels right in 188 00:07:58,440 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: the moment when I settle down. 189 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: If you're if you're from there and you and you 190 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: live there, is it is it? Is it that expensive 191 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: or is it more? Traveling to Hawaii is expensive. 192 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: It's expensive. I mean a gallon of milk is like 193 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: eight bucks. 194 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: Now, that's what I've heard. Yeah, so that is true. 195 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: Huh no, it's it's pretty true. I mean even living. 196 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: I was looking at a one bedroom and it was 197 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: like eight hundred grand for like a one bedroom, and 198 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: I was like, I can't I live, can't afford that's. 199 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 200 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: I mean New York and cheap there, but yeah, new York, 201 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: that's what I was going to see it, Like, you 202 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: guys live in New York, so. 203 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,119 Speaker 1: Well you could still get cheap milk though, like groceries 204 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: and stuff. Is that's still affordable like property isn't. So 205 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: let's talk about your job. So how did you get 206 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: So you're you're in trauma nursing, so I'm I. 207 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: See you trained, But as a travel nurse, I kind 208 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 2: of pop around two different units. So I can work 209 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 2: in the er, I can do icy, I can do telemetry, 210 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: but trauma is like kind of my home. It's where 211 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: I feel the most comfortable. I guess it's kind of 212 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: over to say because you see some crazy stuff. 213 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say, is there do you 214 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: want to want to tell us why you feel that way? 215 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 2: Well, so my dad works in trauma. Back home, I 216 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 2: kind of always grew up. He would just tell me 217 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 2: stories and I he noticed that I would handle the 218 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 2: stories well. I would see pictures and it never fazed me. 219 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: I was I always kept it very calm and cool 220 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: and collected in very high stress situations. So when I 221 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 2: was in nursing school, I was kind of figuring out 222 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 2: where to go, and I noticed that I see it 223 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: was where you need to really be level headed and 224 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: kind of always relax, you know. Although I don't think 225 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 2: things through I think things through nursing. 226 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 4: So yeah, if Rachel is your nurse, guys, don't worry. 227 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: She thinks she's like I think, jump off of something 228 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: and I can break my but I will help you 229 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: if it is you next time, okay. And I'm Filipino. 230 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: Every Filipinos a nurse, So that's kind of the stereotype 231 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: that I lived. But yeah, I see, it was amazing. 232 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 2: It's you know, it's very traumatizing. You see a lot 233 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: of things I worked during COVID. It was a very 234 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: very hard time because it was just so much like 235 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: sadness literally every day and you take it on as yourself. 236 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: But I found a way to cope, and I think 237 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 2: that's why it fit me the best. 238 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: Nice. 239 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like that was something we saw you 240 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 3: kind of talked to Joey about and what it's like 241 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 3: to be a nurse. I know we've kind of had 242 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 3: some conversations with Zach and Katie because she also is 243 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 3: a travel ers I believe she worked through COVID as well, 244 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: So there's kind of that extra layer of like what 245 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 3: you bring home from your job at the end of 246 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 3: the day and what it's like to be in a 247 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 3: relationship with someone in that field. 248 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, cause you also work a lot of hours, right, 249 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: Like your shifts are usually like, what are like twelve 250 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: hours sometimes, yes. 251 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: Seven am and I come home at like eight pm. Yeah. 252 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 2: Do you think that's why? 253 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I mean if you're busy, I'm sure it's 254 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 3: like you're really in it. Do you think that's kind 255 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,359 Speaker 3: of what you see yourself doing long term? 256 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 2: I want to say yes, But I'm starting to notice 257 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 2: with time that there's I have more passions that I 258 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 2: really want to pursue. Like I love public speaking and 259 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: I love kind of speaking on behalf of others, and 260 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 2: I'm trying to find a way to do that with 261 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: also using nursing as my background, because nursing is a 262 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 2: part you advocate for your patients you know all the time, 263 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 2: and you know through personal experiences that I've gone through, 264 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 2: I've been able to relate to patients, like female patients 265 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: have been able to really come to me and feel 266 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 2: safe with me because We've shared similar experiences. So I'd 267 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: love to see in the realm of nursing. But if 268 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: doors open up for the things, I'm always open to whatever. 269 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 4: That's amazing. I think that's so great. 270 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 3: And I know that we talked with Lexi about just 271 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 3: being a woman and what that entails, like going into 272 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 3: the medical field and like the information and knowledge that 273 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: there is on women versus men, and just what it 274 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 3: means to like advocate for yourself as a patient in 275 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 3: that space. I feel like people would love to hear 276 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 3: from your perspective on that. 277 00:11:55,320 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean, being a woman also in a woman 278 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: dominated a career. It's so crazy to say, but we're 279 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: still so much work to do to like build up 280 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 2: women in nursing in the medical field. So I mean, yeah, 281 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 2: I'd love to be a voice for that as a 282 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 2: lot at some fun nice all. 283 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 4: Right, time to bring up your time to ring? Well, 284 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 4: Joey the one that will go with that one first he's. 285 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: A good one. He's a good one. 286 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: So you step out of the limo, you see Joey 287 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: for the first time. Is there is there a spark. 288 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 2: Fun I from on my side? Yeah, on my end, 289 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: I don't know if there was, because I was just 290 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: so in awe what was happening, because he was there 291 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 2: in the flesh and all I was telling myself was 292 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: just give the lay and walk away. Give it, walk away. 293 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 2: But my first impression, obviously is that he was so handsome. 294 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: She had such a good energy about him, like his 295 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 2: ore was just very calming, but a spark. I don't know. 296 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 2: I think I was just assuming I was going to 297 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 2: go home night one, so really, oh one hundred percent. 298 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 2: I wanted to imagine I was the producers and I 299 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: was like, I'm going home, guys, it was so nice 300 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 2: to meet you. A bags are packed and no, no. 301 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 4: I are crazy watching it. 302 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: We did not think yeah yeah, I was like, you're 303 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: going to be there for a while. 304 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 2: I was convinced I to all the girls and I 305 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: was like, it was so nice to meet you guys, 306 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 2: and I'm going. 307 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 4: To drink And did you get a chance to talk 308 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 4: to him night one? 309 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 2: No? 310 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 4: Oh, you did it? 311 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: Also why I think? 312 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 4: I was, well, that makes more sense. Why you thought 313 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 4: you might be going home? 314 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: So I didn't get a chance to talk to him 315 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 2: at night one, So like all these women were going 316 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 2: and going and going as night's going on, I was like, oh, yeah, 317 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: I'm for sure going home. I don't think delay was 318 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: enough to keep me to get a rose. So that's 319 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 2: where my head was at. 320 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: So why do you think you got a rose? 321 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 2: I guess that lay really did its job. I was 322 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: a challenge. I was putting a lot of the power 323 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: on that this lay, and I was like, this is 324 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 2: this is it? 325 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: I'm sure there was a nice aspect of like familiarity 326 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 3: to right with him being from Hawaii, being from Hawaii. 327 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: He's not He's not from Hawaii. 328 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 3: He lived there, so he lived there. 329 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, he gives that vie, he gives that vibe. 330 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: But I think I always said this is why every 331 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: time joined I talked after night one, there was definitely 332 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 2: familiar familiarity between the both of us, and maybe that 333 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: was the connection. But that's what was a huge, huge 334 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: part of like our friendship and our relationship building forward. 335 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: And then we don't see you get a one on 336 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 3: one day until a little later in the season. So 337 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 3: kind of what was that journey like for your relationship 338 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:52,359 Speaker 3: and your connection. 339 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: See the not to cut you off, but we see 340 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: the wedding, the wedding dress base where that's kind of 341 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: like the first thing. 342 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 3: That was the first time where you were like, Okay, 343 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 3: this is someone he's into. 344 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 345 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think watching it back now, I 346 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: see that, but in the moment, I really didn't think 347 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: much of it. Oh really no, because I was I'm 348 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: kind of goofy and I'm like awkward, and it was 349 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: our first time talking, and of course it's the first dance, 350 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: like way to just you know, jump right ahead. But 351 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: I guess you could tell that there was definitely a 352 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 2: spark after that date because we do have a lot 353 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 2: in common and we just understood each other very well. 354 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: But it was a very interesting group date to be 355 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: you know, but Michael Bolton was there, so it was 356 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: a good. 357 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was crazy. Why was it such an interesting 358 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 3: group date? I tell us Rachel tell. 359 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: Us for me. I think it was so interesting that 360 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: we all had to watch every girl walk around with 361 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 2: him and see how they connected. So I was kind 362 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: of in my head because I was one of the 363 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 2: girls on that group date that didn't talk to him 364 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 2: night one, so I almost felt just behind, like I 365 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: didn't know much of him, and girls to race spoke 366 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: to him the night before. You know, I could share 367 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: a little kissy or whatever it was. But once you know, 368 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 2: we had our chance to walk around, I can show 369 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: my personality. I think we both kind of fell out 370 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: to each other. 371 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 4: That's such a good point. 372 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, because a lot of girls on that date had 373 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 3: already kissed him night one, and like there was like 374 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: some stronger. 375 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: Personalities on that date. 376 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 3: They're also like parading it around like the one on 377 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: one time that that would be a challenging like structure 378 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 3: for especially for a first group date. 379 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but and my this was back to what 380 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: we talked about when I first got on here. Two 381 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: was when they announced the group day. All these girls 382 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: were already and glam right, they had their makeup and 383 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: hair done, and I went I think I was talking 384 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: to other girls. I was like, I really don't want 385 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: to go on this date because I just don't look 386 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: the part. They're like, oh no, you're fine. I was 387 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: like okay when I were just throw on a dress. 388 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: But it was honestly the best time. I had, the 389 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 2: best time. 390 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like that that first group day 391 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: and I've never been on one, but I like that 392 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,239 Speaker 1: that has to be like the first like that's like 393 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: your your first moment of like, oh, this is kind 394 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: of how this is gonna work. This is reality TV, 395 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: this is weird as fuck. But then like the second 396 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 1: half of that date, you start leaning in and you're like, Okay, 397 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: now I can kind of be myself. I'm starting to 398 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: like get more comfortable. I guess, right. 399 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 2: Exactly, yeah, exactly. Yeah, But I mean group dads are 400 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: they're not meant to be I guess they're kind of 401 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 2: meant to be awkward in a way. I think I would. 402 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 3: Say, Yeah, it's very hard to make them ever feel comfortable. Yeah, okay, 403 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 3: So that first group date is kind of like that 404 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 3: first spark with Joe. It's the first time you're talking 405 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 3: to him, first time you're having a conversation. 406 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 4: Where does the relationship go from there? 407 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was honestly, that first dance was 408 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 2: everything we kind of needed to actually have a moment together. 409 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: And for me, I could say when we dance, I 410 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 2: totally forgot that there was everybody else around, which was 411 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 2: also proven to that kids, because I kind of forgot 412 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 2: that the girls were watching, and I was like, I'm 413 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 2: just gonna scooch in here. And then we had a 414 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: great conversation that night as well at the cocktail party, 415 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: and from then on, I just felt more comfortable with 416 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: him every time I saw him, and I started to 417 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 2: slowly slowly open up and he as well to me, 418 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: and that's kind of what we needed. It was just 419 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: a quick little thrust to kind of get a relationships started. 420 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I was gonna say, as your relationship is 421 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 5: now growing, are are you yet like comparing it to 422 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 5: other relationships he's he's having or are you kind of 423 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 5: just solely focused on what's going on between you two? 424 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 2: No, I was solely focused. I used to make a 425 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: joke with the girls and I was like, oh, guys, 426 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 2: are you guys having fun talking to my husband, like, 427 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: you know, just letting you guys share share the share 428 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 2: the man. But I think in my past relationships they 429 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: used to always compare you know what I was doing 430 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: with my boyfriend the time to like my friends relationships, 431 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: and that always caused more hurt for myself in the end. 432 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: So going into this as really focused on what's meant 433 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: to be is meant to be. All I can do 434 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 2: is be myself and you know, put my best foot forward, 435 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 2: and if it's not me at the end of the day, 436 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 2: I'm really okay with it because you know, something great 437 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 2: will come out of this. I love that. 438 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 3: I also love to hear you say that as you 439 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 3: were opening up more, he was opening up more. I 440 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 3: feel like they kind of did Joey a disservice and 441 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 3: like never showed him opening up to anyone until like 442 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 3: this point in the season, and like you're seeing so 443 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 3: many of the women open up and having these yerious conversations. 444 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 3: So it's nice to hear that he was also like 445 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 3: giving that back to you guys. 446 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean, just like give Joey 447 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 4: a little shout out. 448 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 2: Here exactly, because you know, he's taking on all of 449 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 2: our stories and like listening to us. So I definitely 450 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 2: always like wanted to check up on him and give 451 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 2: him the chance to just relax and breathe and yeah, 452 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 2: he said shared some things that I loved that. Obviously 453 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: everything's going to be shown because there's just so much 454 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 2: going on. But I had the live, you know, the 455 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: life footage with him. You know, I had the best 456 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 2: time with him, and him opening up allowed me to 457 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: feel safe with him as well. 458 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 4: That's amazing. 459 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: Is there anything that wasn't shown between you two that 460 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: you want to share? 461 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I know for a fact that Joey and 462 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: I did have a great, strong connection. We had a 463 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 2: beautiful relationship. I do wish more of our moments could 464 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 2: have been shared with people, but I think in everything 465 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: you see is kind of what you what you get, 466 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: and Joey and I know how raw and true our 467 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 2: relationship was, and at the end of the day, that's 468 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 2: all that really matters to me. 469 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 4: How does it make you feel? 470 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 3: I feel like there's been a lot of comments that 471 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 3: you guys are like friends first. 472 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 4: How does that make you feel? Saying that? 473 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 2: I mean best relationships office friends, right, So I don't 474 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: see that. I don't think that's an issue. I think 475 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,719 Speaker 2: people are trying to find any reason to kind of 476 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 2: downplay my experience with Joey, and I'm kind of trying 477 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: to ignore that because I was the one who was there. 478 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: I spoke with him, I spent all that time with him, 479 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: and even if it's just a friendship that came out 480 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 2: of it, it's still something so beautiful to be proud of. 481 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 2: I don't think that's an issue at all. 482 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you also, you also are the third girl, 483 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: so it's like it wasn't like like he really really 484 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: liked you, so like there is. 485 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 2: A reason to keep me to top three, but. 486 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: Like there's a reason that you. You made it that fire, 487 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: and it's not just because he wanted to be back 488 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: have a bear with you at a bar and then 489 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: fucking slap your high five and see you later. 490 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 2: But I think towards the end, he and I definitely 491 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 2: knew that that's as far as our relationship was going 492 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 2: to go. And I know I've said this before, and 493 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 2: I've said it to him. I think my favorite memory 494 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 2: is he and I parting ways because you can't force anything, 495 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: and we both gave it our all, and I know 496 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 2: we're both so proud that we both cared about each 497 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: other and respect each other. So yeah, I keep saying 498 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 2: we're friends. I'm so glad I have to be acting 499 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: friends of my ex. That's like a beautiful, beautiful thing. 500 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, did you see it coming then? Because we obviously 501 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 3: saw you getting sent home at the Women Tell All. 502 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 3: They showed it and it was obviously a very emotionally 503 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 3: charged moment. Were you shocked or because he kind of 504 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 3: made a comment when we interviewed him that made me 505 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 3: think that maybe there was like a vibe that the 506 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 3: relationship was coming to an end between you two. 507 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish I knew what he said, but you 508 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 2: can listen. I'll listen to it. I knew that I 509 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 2: was I was going to go home. I think it's 510 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: so emotional because you've come, I went so far with him, 511 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: and you're pretty much at the end, and so a 512 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 2: natural instinct is I was thinking, was I enough that 513 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 2: I not do enough? Was there? We ran out of time? 514 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: What was it? And it was definitely an unspoken understanding 515 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: that this was the end for us. So the tears 516 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 2: I'm going to cry now, I'm not going to cry, 517 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 2: but the tears I used are all real because it's 518 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 2: not hearing my name called. I felt that our friendship 519 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 2: was also done. I had no say in it, So 520 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: a part of me I was thinking I was like, oh, well, 521 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 2: I know I'm going to go home. Maybe I just 522 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 2: shouldn't go to the road ceremony. That was like what 523 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 2: I was really thinking to myself. But I didn't want 524 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 2: to take away the joy and happiness of hearing your 525 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 2: name being called for the other two women, just because 526 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 2: I love and respect them so much, and I think 527 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 2: it'd be a disservice if I didn't show up because 528 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: I would love to hear my name being called as 529 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 2: the final tier, right, So I didn't want to take 530 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 2: that joy for the other women. So it's also why 531 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 2: I was crying because I knew it was going to happen. 532 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 2: I knew this was the end for Joey and I. 533 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 2: But again, it was probably my favorite moment of he 534 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 2: and I because I could really feel that there was 535 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: just so much love there, even as platon and I 536 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 2: think that's also my favorite type of love. That's too hard, 537 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 2: So it was hard to watch. 538 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I think it's really difficult at the 539 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: end too, because I feel like the lead like that's 540 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: when your relationship really starts progressing, but the lead then 541 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: he has to step back and kind of like mentally 542 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: turn off two relationships. Because he has to take one. 543 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: So it's like he like and that's like, that's the 544 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,479 Speaker 1: difficult part because it's like like who knows, Like, you know, 545 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: in the real world, you could like nothing, nothing, rub 546 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: it in, but like you could have worked in the 547 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: real world, you know. But like now he's now it's 548 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: like this thing where he's like, well, I have like 549 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: at this point, I feel a stronger connection with a 550 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: Daisy y or a Kelsey, So now I have to 551 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: turn off this relationship and that's hard because it's like 552 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: no one did anything wrong, and that's yeah, that's that's 553 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: the Yeah. 554 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 2: You know, I give Joys all my respect for having 555 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 2: to be the one in that position to do it, 556 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: because I don't know if I could be able to 557 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 2: do it at the same time, Yeah, it was a 558 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 2: hard decision, but someone had to do it. So kudo's 559 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 2: joy for breaking it because that was a tough one. 560 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: Definitely a tough one. 561 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like it's emotional to experience and then 562 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 3: to have to sit there and watch it back is 563 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,959 Speaker 3: just a whole different type of emotional. 564 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 2: Well, I didn't think I was gonna be that emotional. 565 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 2: I was going into a girl. I was going to 566 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 2: tell all. I was like, I'm gonna watch it. It's fine, 567 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 2: but yeah, it hit me like a ton of bricks 568 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 2: because just after filming, I kind of went home and 569 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 2: I was like, how do I just pick up from here? 570 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 2: That's kind of what my thought process was. So I 571 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 2: went back to work and I just tried to be busy, 572 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 2: be busy, not think about it. So seeing that over 573 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 2: and reliving that whole thing and kind of just to 574 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 2: be back to that place. 575 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to get into your time in the 576 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 3: high with Joey at the Women TLL. But before that, 577 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: there's so much went down at the Women t Hall 578 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 3: and you were not sitting out there with the girls, 579 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 3: but you were there. You were behind the scenes waiting 580 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 3: for your moment. So I want to get your take 581 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 3: on the drama. What are your thoughts? You know, we 582 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 3: had the Maria versus Jess, Sidney and leya moment. You 583 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 3: were in the house through all of it, which is 584 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 3: you know you're seeing everything that's going down. 585 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 4: What's your take on it all? 586 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 2: I mean, as you can see also, like if you watch, 587 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 2: I was always pretty neutral and I always tried to 588 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: be kind of see what was happening on both sides. 589 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 2: I also was not on the group dates where most 590 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: of the drama happened. So a lot of times girls, 591 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 2: you know, they were sharing like oh this took place, 592 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 2: this transpired, but I wasn't there, so I don't know 593 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 2: what happened when didn't happen. My whole thing was Sidney, Leah, Maria, Jess. 594 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 2: I give these girls all my respect because they all 595 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 2: stood their ground, and I think that's a hard thing 596 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 2: to do. Like, you know, for most people, they'd be like, Okay, 597 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 2: let's just move on, let's move on. But they stuck 598 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 2: to their side of the story, each of them, and 599 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: I think it's bound to happen to have this disagreement. 600 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 2: You're putting so many different personalities in a small environment. 601 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: Some personalities are stronger than the other. But I did 602 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 2: hear that they hugged it out. So I'm glad we're able, 603 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 2: you know, at our age as women's let's just put 604 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 2: it aside. We're there for Joey, and you know, we 605 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 2: all have those people that we hang out with them 606 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 2: we're closest to. I just was just over the whole thing. 607 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: Honestly the whole time. I was like, okay, guys, but 608 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 2: where's Joey question? Where's Joey? Right? 609 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 3: We didn't see you involved in literally any drama this season, 610 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 3: which is not surprising to me. We did see you 611 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 3: have a little miniature tiff with Maria at one of 612 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 3: the Rose ceremonies. Do you want to expand or just 613 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 3: give any context? 614 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: And how cold was it in that hangar? Because I 615 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 1: bet it was fucking. 616 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 4: Freezing to that moment, it was pretty cold. 617 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 2: Act no, it was actually really cold that night. I 618 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 2: don't I wouldn't even call it a tiff. I think 619 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 2: we were all so exhausted. We just finished hometowns. It's 620 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: late at night. You know, these ceremonies can go as long. 621 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 2: We don't even know how long it was going to be, 622 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 2: So I think it was more emotions are high, and 623 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 2: I was the closest to and I just asked a 624 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 2: simple question. We hugged it out. I don't think there 625 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 2: was any ill will in that moment. And you know, 626 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 2: one thing about your Rehni is that we could talk 627 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 2: straight to each other. We were just blunt, and that's 628 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 2: why we just never really had an issue. I said 629 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 2: what I said, and she would say what she said, 630 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 2: and we moved on but of course from outside perspective, 631 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: you're not thinking about what's going through my mind was 632 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 2: going through her mind. So it looks like a tiff, 633 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 2: but it wasn't. 634 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: I threw plenty of TIFFs in Paradise. We would be 635 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: if like Row ceremony, people would like pass out, I'd 636 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: be like, are you fucking hur meet, drink some water? 637 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 4: One of the worst. 638 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: Well, I'm saying, like roast ceremonies, like what you're once 639 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: you're at the for like our listeners like, once you're 640 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: at the roast ceremony, like at this point, you're like 641 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: you're pretty tired and you're just exhausted, and you're just 642 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: kind of like, let's get this. We want to get 643 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: this going, like it's it's the end. 644 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 4: That was go ahead, Sorry, no, go, Rachel go. 645 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 2: It was obviously it wasn't. So like more that was 646 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: happening in the background is I was also very emotional 647 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 2: going into that hometown I mean going into that Row 648 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 2: ceremony because as I was leaving my hometowns my I 649 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 2: found out that my auntie passed away a while I 650 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 2: was filming, and so I was kind of like the 651 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 2: space where I was like, I'm missing so much of 652 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 2: like what's going on back home? And I'm so out 653 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: of the loop, and I'm so close to my dad 654 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 2: and it was my dad's sister, So going to the ceremony, 655 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: I felt like there was just like a lot. We 656 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 2: were all having so many emotions, seing our families and 657 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 2: like thinking about things like am I should I be here? 658 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 2: Like what what am I doing here? So I think 659 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 2: people are just so quick to judge and not take 660 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 2: a second to realize, like there's other things that they're 661 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 2: thinking about besides getting a rose that night. 662 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 3: I also think the Maria fans are on the defense 663 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 3: for Maria with everything that went down this season, and 664 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 3: they're like, anyone that's Antia, we're coming for you. And 665 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 3: it's like guys like Maria and Rachel I. 666 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 2: Put that army too, dang her army spears. 667 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 4: Her army is spears. 668 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 2: They're hardcore. They're hardcore. 669 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: Okay, So let's talk about you seeing Joey again at 670 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: the reunion in your hot seat? How was How was that? 671 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 2: I wasn't nervous at all, Jesam. I was actually very 672 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 2: excited because we left. I guess you could say there 673 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 2: was no closure when we left we both didn't need closure. 674 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 2: We knew this was the end of it, so I 675 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 2: could feel that we both were it was just a 676 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 2: calmness when we saw each other, and it's just so 677 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 2: much love. As soon as we saw each other, it 678 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 2: was like, hey, man, what's. 679 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 3: Up to Yeah, and I feel like I had like 680 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 3: you had great banter on the show, like he said, 681 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 3: this is the woman tell all. But like, truly, I 682 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 3: feel like so many of the interactions we saw between 683 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 3: the two of you was you making him laugh and 684 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 3: you could tell like he just there's good banter and 685 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 3: like ease between the two of you, and I feel 686 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 3: like we saw that right away from like the moment 687 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 3: he sat down with your little interaction, yeah. 688 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: Which is like there's always a like I said, a 689 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 2: sense of familiarity, a sense of home with the both 690 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 2: of us, and you know, seeing him cry. I think 691 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 2: I think I told him. I was like, I'm so 692 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 2: glad you cried on my left because. 693 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 4: You did you did? 694 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if I did, because I was like, listen, man, 695 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 2: if there's no tear to be shed, please redo it. 696 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 3: You know, it feels good when they're a little upset, 697 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 3: You're like, Okay, I'm glad I've been something to you too. 698 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 2: Okay, I want you on your hands and knees, but 699 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 2: if it's not, you'll take a bug, dear. It's fine. 700 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 701 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 702 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 3: We saw you speak you know, Joe and you kind 703 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 3: of had your moment and just he had said that 704 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 3: you were giving so much to the relationship that he 705 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,719 Speaker 3: just couldn't give back. I feel like we saw you 706 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 3: really take a turn and open up so much after 707 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 3: your conversation with Susan, who was in the audience. 708 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 4: How was that conversation. 709 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 3: I feel like, out of the three conversations, like you, 710 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 3: Daisy and Kelsey all chatted with a gold woman, you 711 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 3: and Susan just had like the best chemistry and like. 712 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 2: Oh yes, I mean it's Susan, right, Like see Susan. 713 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 2: Susan is iconic, She is amazing. She definitely I felt 714 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 2: like I was talking to an auntie or a mom 715 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 2: in that moment. That's what I was needing because in 716 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 2: my head, I was like, Okay, it's now or never 717 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 2: I opened up to Joey or I don't open up 718 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 2: to Joey. And she really kind of pushed me into 719 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 2: the right direction to just give it my all. And 720 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 2: I think even though the ALcom is not what anyone 721 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: would have wanted, it was everything I wanted. I opened up, 722 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 2: I pushed myself, and I'm just really proud of you 723 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 2: know how far it came towards the end. 724 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: So what does this mean for you now, stepping into 725 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: the dating world and back into the real world and 726 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: being single but having I guess grown in the relationship sense. 727 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm so so happy with where I'm 728 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: at life right now. I think a lot of us 729 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 2: when we're single, especially in our twenties or mid twenties 730 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 2: or late twenties, we think we're behind. I'm like, girl, 731 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 2: you can literally do whatever you want. Like, you can 732 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: literally do whatever you want. 733 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: Tell you thought, I'm. 734 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 2: Sure you still can do whatever you want. But I am. 735 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 2: I think right now I'm taking a step back from 736 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 2: the dating world. I'm not opposed to anybody, but obviously 737 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 2: my standards are very high. I mean, who can top 738 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 2: date in Spain? I don't know. Yeah, like that one. 739 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 2: It's kind of hard, but yeah, I mean, if you 740 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,239 Speaker 2: can meet my standards, give me a call. 741 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 3: If not, are the d ms open, are we like 742 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 3: at least like casually dating or are you like, no, 743 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 3: give me space. 744 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 2: I need space right now. I definitely need space right now. 745 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 2: I think, like, I think a lot of opportunities are 746 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 2: coming out of all this, and I really focused on 747 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 2: just relaxing and kind of touching grass and like visiting 748 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 2: my family to kind of just take a break from everything. 749 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: But I'm not a posey, right, you're open? What what 750 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: was the What was your favorite place you went to 751 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: on the show? Because you basically went you went everywhere. 752 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 2: I went everywhere I didn't, Thank god. I want to 753 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 2: say Spain was probably my favorite landscape because I've always 754 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 2: wanted to go to Spain. I'm I'm obsessed with Spanish culture, 755 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 2: but lodging and like just the scenery and everything. Jasper 756 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 2: was insane. Yeah, yeah, I mean that it was insane. 757 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 2: I was like, where are we guys? I would definitely 758 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 2: go back to Jasper's made. Yeah, I love that. 759 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 4: Very different places, but yeah, it's very beautiful. 760 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I got a Hawaii question. So we're going 761 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: to Hawaii for the first time, even though neither of 762 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 1: but this isn't I'm just throwing this other. 763 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 4: Far from the East coast, you know it is? 764 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 2: It is far from the east coast. 765 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: What is one thing that we had? Like what what 766 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: does Hawaii do best? As far as food? 767 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 2: I want? Is the best for sure, But I mean 768 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 2: there's like my favorite place on the island is called 769 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 2: Kina the Sandwich Shop. It's in the North Shore. It's 770 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 2: on the Wahoo and they have the best tarry chicken 771 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 2: sandwich but the best fries. I've had it myself, So 772 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 2: I don't know I'm over hyping it because it's it's 773 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 2: I've had since I was like a fetus, like I've 774 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 2: gone because that was an actual child. So to me, 775 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,919 Speaker 2: it's just like a nostalgic sandwich. But it's the North 776 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 2: Shore where it's like that's like the raw Huwai, like 777 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 2: nothing's really there's no like a lot of buildings and stuff. 778 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: As a as a as a tourist, where should you 779 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 1: go if you're going for if you're going for two man, 780 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: if you're going for ten days? 781 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 2: Are you planning the trip right now? 782 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: Apparently I'm just trying to get as much information as that. 783 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 4: Joe is always planning multiple trips that. 784 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, like do you go to 785 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: the what is it like Maui's We almost. 786 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 3: Went to Hawaii on our honeymoon and we did it, 787 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 3: so it's like on it's near the top of the 788 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 3: list of places like we really want to go. So yeah, 789 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 3: we're always picking people's brains that have been there or lived. 790 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 2: There and decided which island I should go to because 791 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 2: a Wahu has great nightlife, but then you also have 792 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 2: like the good countryside. He just has the beautiful country 793 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,280 Speaker 2: Maui as well. Just go to every island. 794 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,439 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, assault message, you know, give you a list 795 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 3: of things to do, and then don't ask Joey ask me. 796 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: Okay, I wouldn't you think you think I'm gonna ask 797 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: the the Philly kid who's a tennis instructor in Hawaii, 798 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: where to go to Hawaii. 799 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people think he's from Hawaii. 800 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 2: I feel like I've been getting comments and people saying 801 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,399 Speaker 2: they're both from Hawaii that I. 802 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 3: Feel like it confuses people because when you're on the show, 803 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 3: they have like name age where you're from, or like 804 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 3: name age occupation, like in the little bios, and I 805 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 3: think they had they had him as Hawaii on his 806 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 3: when he was attested, because it's not necessarily where you're born, 807 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 3: where you grew up. It's like where you are most 808 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 3: recently living. So I think it gets confusing for some people. 809 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that it's to be clarified. 810 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: Take care they switch it up, Okay, I think yeah, 811 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: I mean we probably could wrap this anything else, anything 812 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: else you want to talk about, anything that we may 813 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: not have saw with you and Joey or are you chilling? 814 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 4: They want people to know. 815 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I definitely would love to just address again. 816 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 2: Thing I addresses that tell all at the end was 817 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 2: just the comments that people had been making, I guess 818 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 2: to or to me, especially after hometowns. I'm not one 819 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 2: to really speak up, I guess for myself, so doing 820 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 2: that was like a huge there's a huge thing for me. 821 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 2: And you know, coming from my Asian background, were always 822 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 2: taught like not to take up space, like not to 823 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 2: speak up, just be quiet. And so I'm really trying 824 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 2: to encourage people like who look like me, or just 825 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 2: anyone of color to take up that space and to 826 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 2: speak up. I think people are so quick to realize, 827 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 2: are so quick to think that it doesn't affect any 828 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 2: of us. And I'm not saying that the comments I'm 829 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 2: getting are tearing me down. It's just very frustrating, and 830 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 2: I wish more people would just be more kind with 831 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 2: their words and just know that their words have weight 832 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,760 Speaker 2: to them. And you know, I'm still just a normal person. 833 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 2: You know. I went on the show, and I think 834 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 2: going in the show takes a lot of courage and 835 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 2: bravery because they're so much that you go through, and 836 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 2: you know, people getting mad because of my skin color 837 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 2: of how I look and just dropping all these names 838 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 2: like jungle Asian and all these slurs that just are 839 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,280 Speaker 2: coming from left field, all because I got a rose. 840 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 2: I wish people would just know that if you want 841 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 2: to watch reality TV, you have to know that people 842 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 2: are real on reality TV and just to be more 843 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 2: kind and have more grace on us. 844 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and just don't be a fucking dick. It's like 845 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: I don't. It's like it's it's actually it's terrible. It's insane, 846 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: and it's just like like yeah, and like you have 847 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: to expect some of it, but like, especially like in 848 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: your case, it's just like it's so unwarranted and it's 849 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: just yeah, I feel for you, like it sucks, and 850 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 1: like I feel like you are in like a great 851 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: headspace and I would just like stay there and focus 852 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: on all the good that does come from it, because 853 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 1: there is a lot of it, and yeah, like hopefully 854 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: the haters you know, go away or at least start, 855 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: you know, or grow up a little bit, because. 856 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is. 857 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,720 Speaker 3: It's like, if you want to watch a show where 858 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 3: it's only people that look like you, you're probably not 859 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 3: gonna be able to turn on your TV and you 860 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 3: probab shouldn't suit outside your house because that's just not 861 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 3: how The Friends would works. No, and it is. It 862 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,879 Speaker 3: is a struggle for everyone in this franchise. A lot 863 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 3: of the hateful comments and something that we as past contestants, 864 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 3: me as a woman of color, can definitely relate to 865 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 3: your experience to an extent with dealing with that struggle. 866 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 3: But thank you for your bravery and sharing your culture 867 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 3: and sharing your family and your experiences and your traditions 868 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,760 Speaker 3: on the show, because it does take so much bravery. 869 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 3: You are putting yourself out there for you know, people 870 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 3: to love on and accept, and also for people to 871 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 3: criticize and say horrific things in your DM. Sadly that 872 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 3: is part of being on this show. But I hope 873 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 3: that you know that the good that you do and 874 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 3: the good that comes out of this and the people 875 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 3: you touch is so much greater that. 876 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 4: Oh got well choked up there for a second. 877 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 3: Sorry, Then the people that you hurt that are hurting you. 878 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: I wasn't prepared for. Oh yeah, no, I think I 879 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: think I agree with everything you said, and yeah, just 880 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: you're you're an amazing person and just know that and 881 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: fuck those people really yeah, for lack of a better word. Yeah, 882 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: And then if if if there was a Bachelor of Paradise, 883 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 1: would you do it? 884 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 2: Oh? I don't know, man, I know, I mean, I'm 885 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 2: not going to say no. I'm not going to give 886 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 2: a definitive answer and say no. How mean, we'll just 887 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 2: see what what I in the moment, I guess is 888 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 2: there even going to be a b I P is there? 889 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. I know there's going to be a bachelorette. 890 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 2: How about that there's gonna be a bachelor that? 891 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 1: Would you do that? 892 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 2: I'd be the worst bacheorette ever? Don't say that? 893 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 4: Why do you think that? 894 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,800 Speaker 1: And sometimes that makes for the best TV. 895 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 2: Because I think, like night when I would say, ah, 896 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 2: I mean half of you guys to go home. I 897 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 2: can't kiss, I can't no, I don't know. We'll see. 898 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 2: I think it would be fun. I'd have a great experience, 899 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 2: but I'm also like very blunt. I don't know if 900 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 2: that's what would be good as a bachelorette, but. 901 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 4: I think you would be great. 902 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 3: You couldn't send fifty percent of the men home night 903 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 3: one because that's how the show works, but I think 904 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 3: if you could get past that, you. 905 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:36,879 Speaker 4: Would be a great bachelorette. 906 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 2: I would have fun. It would be a fun time, 907 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 2: but we'll see. I don't know. 908 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: Cool. Okay, Well, Rachel, thank you so much for coming on. 909 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,280 Speaker 1: We've been waiting to interview you, so we're really happy 910 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: and yeah, thanks so much. Appreciate it as. 911 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 2: The best time. Also, you guys are just stunning, like 912 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 2: you are literally how I pictured you guys? 913 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 4: Really? Thank you well? 914 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: Thank you yeah, and I'm not even like I mean 915 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,919 Speaker 1: you should see me dressed up. No, anyways, and thank 916 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,720 Speaker 1: you to all our listeners who tune in to Batchery 917 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 1: Happy Hour. We appreciate you guys. I know most of you, 918 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: if not majority of you, are not the people that 919 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: send hateful messages. But if you are, like, chill out 920 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: for real, CHIU. I guess I said that a lot 921 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 1: that word of the day. Yeah, I don't know, I 922 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: don't know. I guess, yeah, I do say chill a 923 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,839 Speaker 1: lot though, Okay, okay, yes, yeah. 924 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 3: Thing, And don't forget that Joey. Season of The Bacher's 925 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 3: Finale is coming out very soon. 926 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 4: Will it be Kelsey? Will it be Daisy? Will it 927 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 4: be both? Will it be neither? 928 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 3: We will We will find out, So be sure to 929 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 3: tune in and be sure to subscribe to Bacher Happy 930 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,839 Speaker 3: Hour because we will have our recaps and many more 931 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 3: exclusive interviews to come. 932 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 1: Bye bye