1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: M from grandmothers who whispered in their baby girl ill 2 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: two fathers on dimly lit street corners, instructing young soldiers 3 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: to always keep their eyes open. You be queen, you 4 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: were fired. You will pass through centuries on the hands 5 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: of your daughters. They called you wisdom. Proverbs on the 6 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: backs of diamond eyed school children who grew into hymnals 7 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: recited by amethyst holding urban philosophers who recited neighborhood commandments 8 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: out of the windows of restored Alchemedo chariots. To keep 9 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: the warmth of their blood. Be wise, be smart, being black, 10 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: opal brown courts, bloodstone, and prayer. Be every form of 11 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: jim se King told, scribe, scribe, told son, son, told wife, 12 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: wife told her daughter, and daughter told the as this is. 13 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: And the ancestors told me that you would come to 14 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: give wisdom. Thousands. They said you would come dropping Dropping 15 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: the Gym. Welcome back to another episode of the Dropping 16 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 1: Gems podcast. This is your soft place to land, where 17 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: we ground teachings of higher consciousness and make them so tangible, 18 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: so applicable, graceful, and filled with ease for your daily life. 19 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: That is always my intention. Thank you for joining us. 20 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: This episode is going to be so good. This is 21 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: especially such a beautiful episode for parents out there. As 22 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: we record, It's actually Halloween and I just finished having 23 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: a gorgeous little preschool Halloween parade with my little one. 24 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: He dressed up as a waffle, so that was fun. 25 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: His one of his favorite foods is waffles. And when 26 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: I asked him what he wanted to be for Halloween, um, 27 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: I said, do you want to be Spiderman? Baby? You 28 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: want to be the Hulk Paw patrol that I want 29 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: to be a waffle. So I found him a waffle 30 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: costume and I was Syrup and I love it. Here. 31 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: I am just so grateful for moments like these. So 32 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: my heart is so full and expansive with childlike joy 33 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: and wonder today. And I am so blessed to have 34 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: an incredibly special guest who makes powerful work for a 35 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: little ones that really allows us to spiritually grow with them, 36 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: to give them tools that are going to guide and 37 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: and honor them for the rest of their lives. Today's 38 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: special guest is Molica Chopra, the CEO of Choper Global, 39 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: a media entrepreneur, author, public speaker, and mama. She is 40 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: the author of the Jest b series That's Just Breathe, 41 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: Just Feel, and Just Be You, a trilogy of illustrated 42 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: how two books for children and the adults in their lives. 43 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: These books provide simple tools to understand and support social 44 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: and emotional knowing, resilience, meditation, mindfulness, and self reflection. Molica 45 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: released her newest book, Buddha and the Rose this past September, 46 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: and she an illustrator Naha or what Breathe Life into 47 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: this simple but poignant story of awareness, wonder and the 48 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: joy of being present and open to seeing the world in. 49 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: Molica has taught meditation to thousands of people and it's 50 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: currently a mindfulness consultant for the animated series Still Water 51 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: on Apple TV Plus. She enjoys speaking to audiences around 52 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: the world about intention, balance and living a life of purpose. 53 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: Molica has a v A from Brown University and an 54 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: MBA from Kellogg Business School and an m A in 55 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: Psychology and Education the Mind, Body Spirit Concentration from Teachers College, 56 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: Columbia University. Without further I do such an honor to 57 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: be blending my world and have my sole sister, an 58 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: amazing woman who I admire so deeply. Molica Chopra, Welcome 59 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: to the show. Oh baby, I'm so happy and excited 60 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: to be having this conversation with you. You are definitely 61 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: your soul sister, I am. I'm so excited for so 62 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: many reasons, Molica. Like I you know, I have the 63 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: pleasure and the privilege of knowing you as such a 64 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: multifaceted being who has done so many incredible things and 65 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: influenced with mindfulness, with self awareness in so many industries. 66 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: But my favorite thing is that I get to reach 67 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:48,239 Speaker 1: out to you for mom advice. And you know something 68 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: that and I've shared on the show before. You know, 69 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: you have written some really just breathtaking books for making 70 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: this work begin to be tangible in the lives of 71 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: our little ones. And you're latest book is It has 72 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: become one of my son's favorite books. And every time 73 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: we look around when we go on our morning walks 74 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: and we find flowers. Every time he sees a rose, 75 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: he said, is that for the Buddha? Is that for 76 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: the Buddha? It is the sweetest you know? Okay, let 77 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: me center this because I'm gonna go on and on. 78 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: But your latest book is so beautiful. It's called Buddha 79 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: and the Rose. It is in stores everywhere and it 80 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: is making tangible for young minds and hearts. This understanding. 81 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: I feel of God, of the bigger universe of love. 82 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: I think to start in ground there. What led you 83 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: to write this book in this way? Right now? What 84 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: a good question, Dave, and I love that. But he 85 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: sees the rosest or the flowers and asks if therefore Buddha. 86 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: You know, I grew up in a family where storytelling 87 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: was part of our everyday life. So you know, my 88 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: father d Puck and my brother got them who's the storyteller? 89 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: And you know in our culture UM stories and mythology, UM, 90 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: all of these um great sages and teachers. That's just 91 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: part of how we grew up hearing these stories. So 92 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: this story of Budda and the Rose was always a 93 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: story that we heard growing up. And it's a hard 94 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: one to actually, um explain because it's really an experience, 95 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: which is there was a silent lecture that Budda gave 96 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,559 Speaker 1: to his students and he just sat on the stage 97 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: and he held a rose, and nobody understood what they 98 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: were waiting for him to speak. And actually, in the 99 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: traditional story, he was on stage on a platform with 100 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: his one of his favorite students, and after a while 101 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: and muttering and saying what is he doing? Suddenly his 102 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: student awakened to what bud I was sharing with him, 103 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: which was that this rose was part of an eternity 104 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: that had gone, you know, UM from beyond before it 105 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: was a seed through the suns and the skies and 106 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: the rains, UM nurturing this seed into a rose. And 107 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: then this rose continues to kind of give joy and 108 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: connection and love, whether it's through the weddings or the festivals, 109 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: or the honey and the bees carrying you know, that 110 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: nectar to um nurture um other flowers. And so this 111 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: um with the students just had this awakened moment. And 112 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: so I have always loved that story. But when I 113 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: decided to kind of figure out how to tell it, 114 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: I decided to tell it through the eyes of a child. 115 00:07:54,920 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: So I chose Sujata, who you know, was supposedly the 116 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: milkmaid who gave the milk to break his fast. I thought, 117 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: let's bring some women into this story, UM, and some 118 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: young girls, and so I told it through that perspective. 119 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: But what I do love about this book and I 120 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: love that you know, you've been able to share what 121 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: your son is it's the artist actually brought it to life, 122 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: because like I was saying, it's kind of a long 123 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: story to tell, but the way in which she brought 124 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: it to life illustration, the illustrations are striking. It is 125 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: so rich and it's so beautiful, and like I love 126 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: the page when you're speaking of the honey and the 127 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: bees like that was one of my son's favorite pages 128 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: to look at and you know, just for us and 129 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: that kind of like primal, like we like doing that 130 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 1: sound with each other, So that page was But all 131 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: of the illustrations are so striking. Um. And you know 132 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: you asked why now, So you know, I've written so 133 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: many books for kids, and many of them are very practical, 134 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: you know, just breathe and very exercise oriented. But I 135 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: think post pandemic, we need some joy and wonder and 136 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: just release and so um, that's the kind of why 137 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: I wanted to do this now because I felt like 138 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 1: it's more of a book of wonder, UM, and I 139 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: do think we need that. You know, when you were 140 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 1: first speaking of the book um and the way that 141 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: it unfolds, I felt myself like my eyes got a 142 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: little misty because when I reading that book with my son. 143 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: Something that felt really profound for me is it was 144 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: a reminder of how far I've come on my personal 145 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: journey as a woman, as a because in the panda 146 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: because in the pandemic um, I remember just being able 147 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: to walk outside, I have a little rose bush and 148 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: stare at a rose became something that felt like it 149 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 1: was changing and saving my life, you know, being able 150 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: to walk outside and look at it. And I was 151 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: in this practice of trying to train myself to feel 152 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: more joy and that was my means to that. And 153 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: so it just it's so breathtaking, you know, this concept, 154 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: this way of sharing that with your children, and I 155 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: think about, you know, some of the deeper effects, and 156 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to opinion with all the parental questions that 157 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: those deeper effects of like, you know, all of our kids, 158 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: they're so trained to say I want this, I want that, 159 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: or you know, it's like we're so used to giving 160 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: them things or the latest this. And for my son 161 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: to feel excited when we go for a walk to 162 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: see a flower means so much to me. You know, 163 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: for us to be able to have a conversation about 164 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: something that isn't cartoon characters, it's not bluey or paw patrol. 165 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: You know, I'm able to like he's able to ask 166 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: me a question about this flower, and then I can 167 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: just talk about teachings of the Buddha. It's like, Ah, 168 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: the way that it can ground your ability to share 169 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: more love with your child, to share more information that 170 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: actually nourishes their soul and not just their imagination, feels 171 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: so amazing. Yeah, And I think that's what we can use, 172 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: you know, that one experience of looking at a rose 173 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: or smelling the flower to think about you. We can 174 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: use that to use all of our senses to look 175 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: at the colors, the smells, the touch of the pedals. Um, 176 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: but then think about like, Okay, what brought us to 177 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: this moment. That was the other thing that I just 178 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: love about this story. But the concept again, which is, 179 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: you know, it takes a million things to happen for 180 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,599 Speaker 1: us to experience this particular moment, even this moment of 181 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: you and I talking right, Like, everything coincided to bring 182 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: us to this moment and so um, and you know 183 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: then so anythings can coincide to kind of create the 184 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: next moment. So if we can start sharing those concepts 185 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: with kids early on, I just think it's a way 186 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: for them to feel more connected to the universe, party 187 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: to other people, to continue. And so you know, when 188 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: you first even ask the question, it's like, it's so 189 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 1: hard to explain what it is because explaining it is 190 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: so deep but right, but in that walk with your kid, 191 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: that you're experiencing that um in real time, which is 192 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: so beautiful, and you know, and and part of nurturing 193 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: um him in a sense of safety and security and 194 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: connection and love and everything. How did you decide that 195 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: this kind of work needed to be grounded and created 196 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: for children? Because you've also written powerful books about yourself 197 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: and your enlightenment as a woman, You've done so many 198 00:12:55,200 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: things in the world. How what what made you come 199 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: into a place of recognizing this need, especially at this 200 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: high level, because I feel like a lot of the 201 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: things that come out for kids, there's nothing this deep 202 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: in this vast well, I think for me, at the principle, 203 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: there was nothing planned or strategic like my my book 204 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: Living with It did the subtitle is my somewhat messy 205 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 1: journey to purpose, right, So I just want to emphasize 206 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 1: the messy part, Like you know, I find that for 207 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: me life has been kind of this windy journey. Sometimes 208 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm on path. Sometimes I'm totally off, 209 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: like you know, And so I think even the kids books, um, 210 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: you know, an opportunity came for me, um to write them, 211 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 1: which was, um, someone asked me to do it, so 212 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: I was like sure, And then I realized, like as 213 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: I was doing it, that I had learned all of 214 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: these techniques and um, you know when I was a 215 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: kid and how important those were for me at different 216 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: stages of my life. So I do think that um, 217 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: you know, just reading it was this first book that 218 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: was the opportunity to share some tips. But then as 219 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: I started to think about all of whether it was 220 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: the stories or being in touch with our feelings or 221 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: asking questions which we do in our chilper meditations are 222 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: reflections and intentions, I thought, oh, you know, we really 223 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: can share this with kids. And you know, since I 224 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time in classrooms, I saw like 225 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: kids love this stuff. They actually love talking about this 226 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: stuff and showing you you know how they can do 227 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: tree pose and bring together breadth, intention, balance, stillness and 228 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: like um in a second, and so um, I feel 229 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: really lucky and it's it's really just kind of been 230 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: stumbling along with one after the next after the next. 231 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: I do a plan. Um, you know, when I wrote 232 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: just read, that became a series of books. So there's 233 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: just breathe, just feel and just be you. But it 234 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: was more like every time I wrote one, I was like, oh, 235 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: maybe there's another one. Like and then with the little 236 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: kid books, um, my body is a Rainbow is really 237 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: an exercise from one of the other books. And then 238 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I love doing these children's books. 239 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: Let's try. But then the Rose. But but then the 240 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: Rose is very different because it's not as how to 241 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: as the other books. It really is um more of 242 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: this conceptual idea which I think hopefully is bringing out 243 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: some sort of joy and connection. You mentioned your first book, 244 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: and something that that I always like, deeply appreciate um 245 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: and has been so meaningful for me on my journey 246 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: is both you and your father I beloved deepak Um. 247 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: You both speak. You know, It's like I think when 248 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: people get in rooms with the two of you, and 249 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: I noticed this especially like at our choper retreats, Like 250 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: whenever you guys get a chance to be on stage together, 251 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: everyone is always just like, oh my god, these enlightened beings, 252 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: you know. And it's like, I think people can hold 253 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: you and your dad in a way like you're floating 254 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: in the air, but both of you are go out 255 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: of your way to ground it and let us know 256 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: that this journey is messy. You know, you didn't pop 257 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: out of the womb in your enlightenment. You know, like 258 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: your dad will speak about the fact he was like, yeah, 259 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: when I was a doctor, I was smoking, I was drinking, 260 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: you know, and you know, you even sharing the messiness 261 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: of this journey even with the tools. It's like, I 262 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: think it's so powerful because everyone imagines that you are 263 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: trying to get to a place where everything is perfect, 264 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: and that is never it. It's about amassing the tools 265 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: so that you can be still in harmony and regulation 266 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: that you can you know, be co creating with what's 267 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: happening around you. Yeah, you know, I think it's it's 268 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: so funny because I think for my brother and I, 269 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: you know, our dads just our dad, like we never 270 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: saw him as like something bigger um or you know, 271 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: uh in a different way that people look at him. 272 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: And we grew up with people like would catch us 273 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: like getting a coke from a coke machine and we 274 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: were like, we're going to tell your dad, and we'd 275 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: be like, oh, it is for our dad. You know. 276 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: It was like like there's this perception of mythology that 277 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: people like to portray, not just on my father, I 278 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: think on on well known figures. Um. And my dad 279 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: knows how to play into that wearing his red glasses 280 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: and red sneakers and all that kind of stuff. But yeah, 281 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: I think it's really important for people. And that's why 282 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: I share very honestly about my struggles, um, you know, 283 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: all along which continue every day. You know, it is 284 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: messy and we're all just trying to do our best. Um. 285 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: And I think as women, we have a lot of 286 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: responsibilities that go beyond you know, just are kind of 287 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: what we're trying to do professionally, Um, you know, taking 288 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: care of our elders, our youngers. Are you know finding 289 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: any sense of balance? And boy have I struggled with that. 290 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: So you know, I think it's really important to build community, um, 291 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: with each other, by supporting each other, by being really 292 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: honest and authentic. What do you think are some ways 293 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: for women? You know, what you spoke to it resonates 294 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: with all of us. I don't even know how women 295 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: how we do it, how we've done it for centuries, 296 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: because not only do we do it all, the expectation 297 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: is always that we do it all. And speaking to 298 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: that multi generational piece that you just said, it's like, yeah, 299 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: we are the ones responsible for the caretaking of the 300 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: elders of the children. And then you know just kind 301 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: of like maybe hope that one day a year you 302 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: get a massage because it's Mother's Day. And it's like, Okay, 303 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: it's so absurd. I think you know, for me, what 304 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: it's been is being it, uh, taking one step at 305 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: a time, recognizing I can't do everything and I have 306 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: to set my priorities of what matters most at this 307 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: particular time. UM. You know, I wrote Living with Intent, 308 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: my book, UM, like a year or two after lean 309 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: In by Cheryl Sandberg came in. And I remember when 310 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,719 Speaker 1: that book, when I was reading that boocause like are 311 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: you kidding? Like we're trying to do so much, like 312 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: we can't do more, Like you know, there's just like this, 313 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: you know this, we can't be super women like what 314 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: we each one of us, UM has our own struggles 315 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: and so I just think that UM, recognizing that we 316 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: can't do everything all the time. And for me, a 317 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: big shift was, um, instead of thinking about sacrifices, like 318 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: we have to sacrifice this, it was more like, Okay, 319 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: I'm making this intentional choice right now to focus on 320 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: this in my life. UM. And you know that for me, 321 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: a lot of that has meant not doing things that 322 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: you know, could have been good for my career or 323 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: make a lot of money, but because I wanted to 324 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: really just be present, you know, in a certain way 325 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: with my children. UM. So I think it's a very 326 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: personal thing for every individual. UM. But I think it 327 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: requires a lot of just kind of um, letting go 328 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: of guilt, learning how to say no, UM, and just 329 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: celebrating kind of the small steps rather than worrying about 330 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: like the end goal. Mm hmmm. I thought just came 331 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: to me and I'd love your thoughts on this, um, 332 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: especially I know, because your little ones are now big ones. 333 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: Do you how how much does your spiritual relationship with 334 00:20:55,000 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: your child evolved as they too go? Question? It changes? Maybe, 335 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: I think all the time. So you know, and I 336 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: will say that, UM, make it. My children have struggled 337 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: in different ways, and as a parent that's really painful. 338 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: Because you feel really helpless, and there becomes these moments 339 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: where you realize, like I can't fix it, Like I 340 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: have to be here to support, to love unconditionally, but 341 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: there's some things I can't take care of and heal 342 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: and say it's going to be okay, um and so 343 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: and you know, as our kids go grow older, they 344 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: face hard times, and so I do think part of 345 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: the parenting journey is that personal also coming to terms 346 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: with that I love this child like beyond anything, and 347 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: I would do anything to take care of them, but 348 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: sometimes I can't, UM, and that's really hard. So UM, 349 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: and it changes, I think it gets you know, for me, 350 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: like with one of mine, like the teenager years have 351 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: been a little harder, but like I've seen how my 352 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 1: elder one kind of comes through it. But now she's 353 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: going through different things as you know, your college student. 354 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: And so it's really just bearing witness, um and just 355 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: having that sense of unconditional love and trying not to judge, 356 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: but also letting go of the need to take care 357 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: of things all the time. And then you have a 358 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: little ones like your little sweet boy. Um. You know, 359 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: it's hard to imagine that, but like it's real, Like 360 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: it is real like your kids, you know. And I 361 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,959 Speaker 1: don't know the quote right now, but you know, um 362 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: to Go says, you know, our kids are meant to fly, 363 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: like we're just here to carry them through this space 364 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: now again, they'll be with us for life hopefully. Um 365 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: and you know, luckily in my culture, like they are 366 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: with us for life. But um, it's hard, can't be hard, 367 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: So you know, parenting is. I'm I'm a big fan 368 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: of chiff Ali Savory and you know how she kind 369 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: of really turns it around like it's really it's a 370 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: spiritual journey for us as parents. Um, as we're going 371 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: through these uh different phases of our kids lives. I 372 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: promised to you, and I feel like this happens whenever 373 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: I'm with you and we're talking about children. But like, 374 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: my eyes are misty again because as you were saying 375 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: that like that, you know that is my journey right now, 376 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: my spiritual journey as a woman and as a mom. 377 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: It's that standing back a little and my son is 378 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: for and you know we we just had a play 379 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: date with his with his classmates at a park this 380 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: weekend and I'm like everyone else is chilling like they're cool. 381 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: Everyone's talking. They're eating pretzels and talking, and I'm literally 382 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: like this, like ducked under things like trying to like 383 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: watch him without him seeing me, Like what's he doing? 384 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: What is what's happening? And I just you know, I 385 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: had to calm down. And I got home later and 386 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: I was meditating while he napped, and I was just like, Okay, 387 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: you're at play with something now. Now this is there 388 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: is a shift happening inside of you, and you have 389 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: to force yourself to take a step back, like you 390 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: have to let him come into more of himself without 391 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: trying to make sure he's okay. So much. It's so hard, 392 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: and you know that's the thing. It hurts. It's painful. 393 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: It's you feel helpless, you feel guilty at times, but 394 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 1: it is but that's kind of why it is a journey, 395 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: like it really is. And I you know, I think 396 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: people go through it in different ways, but for me 397 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: as a parent, that's been the hardest part of it 398 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: is the idea of truly letting go um of trying 399 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: to control or direct like and giving them the space 400 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: to feel sad, to feel lonely, to you know, to cry. 401 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: Like it's it's hard m hm. Drop when it comes 402 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: to your spiritual journey. Um, I'm so. I'm so curious 403 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: about the way that that evolves, especially when you do 404 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: have a foundation of the work. You know, as you 405 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: as you shared your dad is I think one of 406 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: the best storytellers of all time in the world. You know, 407 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: the way that he the way his brain and heart works, 408 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: that he can so many understandings together for someone's enlightenment, 409 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: you know, and he shared about telling the different stories 410 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: and the different myths. Um. You know, to have that foundation, 411 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: but then you go into the world as a woman 412 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: and you're having your own experiences and you find the 413 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: work for yourself in a completely new way. Did you 414 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: find that you were falling even more deep love with practices? 415 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: Was it was it? Did it feel like you were 416 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: experiencing them for the first time? You know? What did 417 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: that feel like when you went through I'd imagine like 418 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: a second awakening at a certain you know. I think 419 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: for me, it's a good question. Not many people have 420 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: asked me that. Actually, Um, I think for me, my 421 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: meditation practice is so cool to who I am because 422 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: I learned when I was so young. So and even 423 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: though I'm an irregular meditator over years and you know, 424 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: try to meditate once a day versus too. Um. For me, 425 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: that practice has been my grounding, like it just has been. 426 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: And when I'm off, I'm usually not meditating, So I 427 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: have to return to my meditation practice. Um. And so 428 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: for me that I don't even think of it as 429 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: part of my spirituality or my journey. It just is 430 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: what it is. It's like brushing my teeth. Um. And 431 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: so for me, I have that now. My journey though 432 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: of self reflection and of growth and all that, I 433 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: would say really kind of was triggered by becoming a mother, 434 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: like and it was you know, being pregnant during nine 435 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: eleven and you know, imagining like having all this joy 436 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: and excitement of having a child, then you know, being 437 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: that warning like thinking like oh my god, what am 438 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: I doing bringing a child into this really? Um uh 439 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 1: you know, crazy crazy world. Um. And so that became 440 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: then the urgency became more relevant to me of like 441 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: they give about who am I? What do I want? 442 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: How can I serve? What am I grateful for in 443 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: this life? What do I want to share with my children? 444 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: So I very much do Like for me, that's what 445 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: this journey has been about UM, it's not even about 446 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: kind of a spiritual path. That's been like, Okay, who 447 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: am I? Because I have these two amazing beings in 448 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: my life, like, and I want to be here to 449 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: serve them in the best that I can. When can 450 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: parents start meditating? How can we start grounding that with 451 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: our littles? You know, I always say the same thing, 452 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: don't even worry about doing it with your children. Do 453 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: it for yourself, and your children are watching, and so 454 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: you know that begins before you can have children, Like, 455 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: have your own path and your kids are there, they're 456 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: watching you, and then as they get older, you can 457 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: share things with them of like how to take a 458 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: deep breath, or how to move a certain way or 459 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: go for a walk and look at a rose. Like 460 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: don't worry about the practice as much as finding that 461 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: groundedness in yourself and then finding the relevant ways to 462 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: share it with them that brings them joy, because we 463 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: don't want to, like um, force kids to do anything, 464 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: because then they're not going to enjoy it. I love 465 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: that so much and it takes the pressure off I. 466 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: Our practice lately, Monica has been UM. I have these 467 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: little yoga position flash cards and you know, they're just fun, 468 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: little silly ones and it's like be a candle or 469 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: you know, make make your bridge and question and I 470 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: have been doing that and it it makes me just cry, 471 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: like watching his excitement and pride when he does like 472 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: a pose. He's like, look, look I'm the bridge, and 473 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm just like, yes, you are, you little bridge. You 474 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: just did it well. And that's the thing. I mean, 475 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: that's it's that joy in that connection and you know, 476 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: his pride and your like emotion and your love, like 477 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: that's what that journey is. It's not about him sitting 478 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: in meditating or doing a class, like forget about that. 479 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,959 Speaker 1: Focus on like those moments that you guys are together 480 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: celebrating and exploring and asking questions and you know, thinking 481 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: about imagining stories. Like that's what it's about. What is 482 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: your hope for women in this time we're in a 483 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: we're in a new time of consciousness and it really 484 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: feels and I love your thoughts. This is how it 485 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: feels for me, like we're in this gorgeous feminine awakening 486 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: across the plan it seems like women were really allowing 487 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: ourselves to take off all the roles for real, like 488 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: not just talk about work life balance and but no, 489 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: we're like sitting here and ra actually saying I have 490 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: a boundary. That's a no, I'm choosing myself in this way. 491 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm doing this. You know, as someone that has been teaching, 492 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: been in this world for so long, what are you 493 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: noticing and what are you hoping for us right now? Gosh, 494 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,479 Speaker 1: I wish I could be as optimistic as you are 495 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: they be honestly about it. I'm feeling a little bit 496 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: like I can't help but be political and practical about 497 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: where we are right now. And I think, um, you know, 498 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: from the we're coming up with an election that you know, 499 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: really is going to have um, real effects on women's choice, 500 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: which we're seeing all over this country or seeing what's 501 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: happening in Iran, um, you know with women there. Like 502 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: I think we're actually a really um pivotal and crisis 503 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: moment actually in which women really, UM, we do need 504 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: to stand up. UM, we need to be out there. 505 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: People better vote. UM. But it's hard, Like it's a 506 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: hard time because I think when um, when kind of 507 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: the establishment gets kind of you know, pushed a little bit, 508 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: like even you know, whether it's around race relations, which 509 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: it's around women's rights. People are pushing back, and so 510 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: I think it isn't it's important that we find that 511 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: strength that you're saying to set boundaries and push. But 512 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: there's going to be I think there's a lot of 513 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: fear also, um, and there's a lot of you know, 514 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: there's a lot at stake right now. Yes, well, and 515 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, I think I'm experiencing both because I feel 516 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: like that is also it's messy, you know what it 517 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: is to come into this kind of paradigm shifting moment 518 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: that I think that we're in, Like, it is requiring 519 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: a lot of us, It's requiring a lot of work, 520 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: But it also feels like we're accessing maybe parts of 521 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: ourselves as women that historically we have not been able to. 522 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: You know, even even being able to say no is 523 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: is really a new thing for women able to speak 524 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: truth or have a zoomed out consciousness of the things 525 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: that the things that are happening. You know, when I 526 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: see our sisters in Iran, it's just like it's just 527 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: mind blow Now, it's just mind blowing in the courage 528 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: and the power and the strength in a city, in 529 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: a in a country where women have been so rigidly, 530 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: violently oppressed. It's to me that's what consciousness and action 531 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: also looks like. And I would just echo though that 532 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: the same situation is here. You know, what's happening with 533 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: the right to choose and you know, make choices on 534 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: our bodies and you know, and these crazy, crazy, um 535 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: systemic ways that people are pushing against that kind of 536 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: freedom on so many levels. For people, UM, I do 537 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: think that's why it is so important that we are 538 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: empowering um each other and supporting each other UM and 539 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: of course those who are really UM you know, at 540 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: the forefront of many of these causes as well. Absolutely 541 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: absolutely Okay a couple of quick fast questions. Tell me 542 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: your personal favorite book of all time. Oh yeah, I 543 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: won't even say a book, but what I do get 544 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 1: lost in our the poems of ROOMI. You know, my 545 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 1: my father's obviously you know, always kind of quotes them, 546 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: but like for me, I can truly get lost um 547 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,720 Speaker 1: in you know, they're his books of poetry and words. 548 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: It's still it's just ah, what UM do you have? 549 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: Last fast question? Do you have a famous a favorite 550 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: excuse me, UM, roomy poem expression or quote? UM? The 551 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: one I love is we came whirling out of nothingness, 552 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: scattering stars like dust. I have always loved that, and 553 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: I you know, I've always thought about that when I 554 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: think about my kids, because it's like, you know, out 555 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: of kind of this the rich nothingness, they come and 556 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: then they just you know, they scatter just so much 557 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: around them. And so I've always used that sometimes really 558 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: my kids literally figuratively emotionally. I love that. Well. Your 559 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: latest book, Booted in the Rows, It is available now everywhere, big, big, 560 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: big recommendation. Me and my little just have such a 561 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: special time, and you know, I just I'm I'm grateful 562 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: for your books because it allows me to make things 563 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: that are so important to me, that are the intentions 564 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 1: I have for his life workable, tangible, with ease, grace, 565 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: with for him and me. I think they've made me 566 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: a better teacher, They've made just a better lover of 567 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: my sons. So thank you so much for your work. 568 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: Oh Davy, I'm like, I love you when you and 569 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 1: I connect, because you do have um, you know, question 570 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 1: this younger. You're at a different stage um in development 571 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: with him, and so it's just so joyful for me 572 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: to hear your stories when You're telling stories about how 573 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 1: just you learn with him and you share with him 574 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: and you explore with him. It's so inspiring. Um, and 575 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: so yeah, I just I love everything you're doing. You 576 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: know that I'm your super fan. Always happen. I love 577 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: you so much and I am so excited to be 578 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: with you. We and actually anyone that wants to join. 579 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: There are a couple of seats left. Molica and I 580 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: will both at um in November, be at the Seven 581 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: Spiritual Laws Retreat with Chopra. It is gonna be incredible. 582 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm expecting Molica that we party like kind of party. 583 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna be here. I want us to 584 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: stay up late, star gaze. Um. It's gonna be an 585 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: incredible time. Chopra retreats are just some of the most 586 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 1: life changing experiences you can have, and I will be 587 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: I'm really gratefully and happy to be gracing the stage 588 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 1: as a host. Um. Lay Ladelia will also be there, 589 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: and so will Laundrell of course. Deepak, Oh my god, 590 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: this is my favorite, my favorite book, my favorite teachings, 591 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 1: an incredible location. Um, and we'll all be there together. 592 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: It's gonna be incredible. I can't wait. It's gonna be 593 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: so fun. So thank you David, thank you always for 594 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: all the support. UM, just so so honored to be 595 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: your soul sister, very lucky for that. Thank you, Thank 596 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: you so much for joining us, Thank you for blessing 597 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 1: us with your time. UM and I cannot wait. Everyone, 598 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: as you're listening to this episode, all of Molica's information 599 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,919 Speaker 1: and also a link to purchase this book. It's gonna 600 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,439 Speaker 1: be in the summary, so as you're in your podcast app, 601 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 1: scroll down, click it. Amazon Prime will get it to 602 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 1: you asap. Thank you, Molica, thank you, thank you m big, 603 00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: thank you Molica for this just beautiful expanse of the episode. 604 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 1: Highly recommend I cannot recommend enough to pick up these 605 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: beautiful books for you and your children. You know question 606 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,760 Speaker 1: that I get so often in d M, so often 607 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: in my email, And when I have the beautiful opportunity 608 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 1: to connect in person with listeners to this show, I 609 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: meet a lot of mamas, and I meet a lot 610 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 1: of daddy's, and I meet a lot of people that 611 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: are on a journey to reparent themselves and then share 612 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: this work with younger generations. And sometimes that piece is 613 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:38,320 Speaker 1: what feels so far off or so confusing or so intimidating. 614 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: You know, as you're on this journey, how do you 615 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: share the impact and the meaning and the importance of 616 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: this work but in a way that little minds and 617 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: little hearts can connect to it. And Molica's books are 618 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: the answer to that and more so. I hope you 619 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: will go ahead and equip yourself with these powerful tools 620 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: and you can continue to connect with Molica. Please join 621 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,800 Speaker 1: her on her Instagram, check out her website and everything 622 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: that she's putting forward in the world that's at Moliga Chopra. 623 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: And go ahead and leave a five star review if 624 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: you're digging it. Share this episode with a friend, Just 625 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,439 Speaker 1: shoot it through to a text right now and write 626 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,399 Speaker 1: a review if you would find a couple of extra 627 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 1: moments today to do that, all right, Your soul work 628 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: for this episode of this show. Your soul work is 629 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: to take some time, have a journal nearby if that 630 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 1: feels good, or take a nice walk. And I want 631 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,240 Speaker 1: you to find a rose. I want you to find 632 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: beautiful flower, and I want you to let yourself get 633 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: really close to it. I want you to smell it, 634 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: if it's possible. I want you to feel it, to 635 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: touch it, maybe even allow a pedal to touch your face. 636 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,240 Speaker 1: If you can bring the rose up to your nose 637 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: and let the pedals fall around your nose and your cheeks, 638 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: on your mouth, I want you to notice the sensation 639 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: of it. I want you to really notice the smell 640 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,399 Speaker 1: and then take another deep breath in. And I want 641 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: you to notice the smell under the smell in any 642 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 1: textures that are present. And then, if this is possible, 643 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 1: I want you to take that rose or flower and 644 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: I want you to get grounded on the floor, seated. 645 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 1: That could look like being on the grass outside, allowing 646 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: that fresh air to be with you as well. It 647 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: could also look like wherever you happen to be there's 648 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: flowers in a hotel or in your home. But sitting 649 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 1: down with it, moving slowly, taking your time with it, 650 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: and I want you to cup it in your hand, 651 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: maybe let the stem pass between your fingers. I want 652 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 1: you to hold it up close to your face, and 653 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: I want you to stare in the center of it. 654 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: And as you stare in the center of that flower, 655 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 1: I want you to allow yourself to trace the pedals 656 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: with your eyes, to notice the color, the richness of it, 657 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: to notice the feeling in your hand and then allow 658 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: yourself to soften your gaze and see what comes up. 659 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: That's it. We will be back with a new episode 660 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:30,800 Speaker 1: next week. I'm must stay Hey. Find me on social 661 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: Let's connect at Debbie Brown. That's Twitter and Instagram, or 662 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: go to my website Debbie Brown dot com. And if 663 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: you're listening to the show on Apple Podcasts, please please 664 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:48,359 Speaker 1: please don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe and send 665 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,720 Speaker 1: this episode to a friend. Dropping Jams is the production 666 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio and The Black Effect Network. It's 667 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: produced by Jackie's and me, Debbie Brown. For more podcasts 668 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 1: from My heart Radio, visit I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, 669 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. M h 670 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: m hm