1 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: And we welcome you into episode thirteen of the best 2 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: podcast available. The two thousand twenty one draft is in 3 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: the rear view mirror. We've got a ninety man roster 4 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: and we look ahead to rookie Minicamp, Mandatory Minicamp, and 5 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: training camp leading up to the season. I'm Jason Gibbs 6 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: alongside Andrew Gribble and Gribbs the Browns drafting eight guys, 7 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: maybe more than we thought they were gonna draft over 8 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: the weekend, But what a haul for Andrew Berry and 9 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: company and the job that they did, letting the draft 10 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 1: fall to them, being aggressive when they needed to and 11 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: coming away with some outstanding talent from the draft. Yeah, 12 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: in hindsight, I wonder if it was just probably a 13 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: little too difficult to get rid of some of those picks. 14 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: I think you didn't see a ton of teams obtaining 15 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: future twenty two because I think everyone wanted to hold 16 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: onto those but eight players it is instead of nine 17 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: that you entered with. Thankfully you did not make the 18 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: number two seven pick in the drafts to the delight 19 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: of everyone covering the Browns draft. But you're right, I mean, 20 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: this was this was about. I think when you look 21 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 1: at the picks and where they were allocated probably what 22 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: you would have expected. I don't know if I would 23 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 1: have predicted a running back getting selected in this draft, 24 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: but uh, they added a player that's not really your 25 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: traditional running back and Dmitrich Felton, but really hitting all 26 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: the areas you thought the Browns were probably hit, with 27 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: the exception of edge rusher, which was the one position 28 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: that probably wasn't addressed that you thought might have been. 29 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: But you get the corner you wanted in the first round, 30 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: and you get a heck of a steel in the 31 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: second round in Jeremiah Usu Cormoa. And then your offensive 32 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: positions that you address are the ones that we probably 33 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: had going into this, and that's a wide receiver and 34 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: an offensive tackle. So uh, basically a lot of these players, 35 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: some of them are going to compete and play right away, 36 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: but most part these look like long term investments that 37 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: are gonna be names that you're gonna be hearing about, 38 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: maybe not one but years down the road. Here now, 39 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: all right, let's break down the draft class. Brown's draft class. 40 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: Greg Newsom the second falling to us at picky six. 41 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: I think we had all hoped that that would be 42 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: the case. But when we did our mock two days 43 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: before the NFL Draft, I don't think any of us, 44 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: not you, not me, not Nathan Tagarath thought that Newsom 45 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: would still be there at twenty six. Yet here we 46 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: were on Thursday night and Newstom kept falling teams, making 47 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: some questionable, questionable picks, and all of a sudden, Greg 48 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: Newsome is the Cleveland Brown. What does he bring to 49 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: the table here, Well, I mean he's just a solid 50 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: uh corner that is ascending as a player. I mean 51 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: he's only twenty years old, as I noted that night, 52 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: the first player in Brown's history to be to be 53 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: born in the two thousands, which Anthony Schwartz also joined 54 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: him uh the next day. So he's got a lot 55 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: of football ahead of him. He played, He was one 56 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: of the main reasons why it Northwestern looks so tough 57 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: against Ohio State in that Big Ten championship. Really just 58 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: didn't allow any big plays last year. Uh was a 59 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: monster on third downs, didn't allow any completions there. Uh 60 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: and just a player that uh fits what this team 61 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: wants to do at the cornerback position. And he's someone 62 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: that's gonna come in and compete right away with Greedy 63 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: Williams for some study records. But again, if Greedy beats 64 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: him out, not the end of the world. I think 65 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: you've got a situation where you can grow and develop 66 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: and become a corner for this team for for years 67 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: to come. But like you said, I didn't expect him 68 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: to be there twenty six. I got real nervous when 69 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: those corners went eight and nine back to back. I 70 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: did not expect that to happen with J. C. Horne 71 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: and Patrick Surtan. But then there was that law there 72 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: in the in the teams where then it started to 73 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: look a lot better. I think more offensive players kept 74 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: getting drafted over and over again. I was feeling really 75 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: good when the Raiders took Alex Leatherwood. I was feeling 76 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: really good at Alex Jones. That Mac Jones went at 77 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: number fifteen to the Patriots, So all the things started 78 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: to follow the Browns way. And I do wonder, and 79 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: this is obviously something will never know the answer to. 80 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: What if the tight has chose Newsome at over Caleb Varley, 81 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: then what did the Browns do at twenty six? Was 82 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: he someone that was on the bronze radar? Will never 83 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: know that. But but everything worked out the way we 84 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: wanted it to, and you got the corner that fits 85 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: what you want to do, fits the personality type of 86 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: one on this team. Kind of a home run A yeah, 87 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: no question. He is a confident young man and his 88 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: play has backed it up. At Northwestern were excited to 89 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: have Greg Newsom the second at pick fifty two. Might 90 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: have been the guy you would have taken at twenty 91 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: six had the Jags are Titans grabbed Greg Newsome. Jeremiah 92 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: a Woosu Coamoa from Notre Dame linebacker. Um, right now, 93 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: he's a linebacker, but he's definitely a guy that can 94 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: play all over the field for you defensively. Some people 95 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: had him going as high as fifteen or sixteen in 96 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: this draft. On mel Kiper's big board, he had him 97 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: in in the mid teens. And here's a guy that 98 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: falls to the Cleveland Browns that pick number fifty two, 99 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: and boy, the Browns word fifty nine. They had to 100 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: make a trade up with Carolina. They found a trade partner. 101 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: They gave up one of those third round picks. I 102 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: know you had an interesting tweet over the weekend like 103 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: this is you know, remember these are picks that you 104 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: acquire the year before or two years earlier. They can 105 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: come back and be big time helpful in terms of 106 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: making a move. And this is what the Browns did 107 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: to go up and get Ausu Korama. Yeah. So the 108 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 1: Browns the previous year, you know, they moved back in 109 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: the third round and acquired that extra third rounder. And 110 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: I think and they didn't necessarily part with that that pick. 111 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: They kept that pick that they acquired from the Saints. 112 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: But I think you're more likely to then give up 113 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: a third round pick to make a move like that. 114 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: If you only had one third round pick, you're maybe 115 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: a little bit more hesitant to make a move in 116 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: the second round the way the Browns did. But that's 117 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: exactly the kind of arsenal you like to build. And 118 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: I think that's why it was it was smart of 119 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: Andrewbury to add another fourth round pick for draft. You 120 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: just have gives you extra wiggle room, extra maneuver ability, 121 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: and then the Browns were able to capitalize on that. Interestingly, 122 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: I think this is safe to say third straight year 123 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: the Browns in the second round have picked a player 124 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: that was routinely mocked in the first round. I mean 125 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: I think that's the that that just doesn't usually happen 126 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: very often. And it's interesting it's the third straight year 127 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: the Browns have made a trade in the second round. 128 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: They moved up to get Greedy Williams, they moved back 129 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: to take Grant Delp, but now they move up to 130 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: take Jeremiah Woso Cormoa and really didn't have to part 131 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: with much to do so. I think that one of 132 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: the draft analytics sites pegged it as the Browns give 133 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 1: up the equivalent of a sixth round pick to basically 134 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: make that move up, because they did add that, uh, 135 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: that fourth round pick in the process. So a great 136 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: move to get a player that clearly they targeted. If 137 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: you make a move up, that's someone that you really like. 138 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: And the fact that we just you see the joy 139 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: in the in the coaches, the and gms about getting 140 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: this player where they did clearly someone they ranked much 141 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: higher than fifty two on their board, and a guy 142 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: just kept falling, I mean through the night. Now, now 143 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: we know Adam Schefter has reported, you know there were 144 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: there were some questions medically about his heart, but you know, 145 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: clearly the Browns docks cleared him and a number of 146 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: other Docks reportedly it cleared him as well. So excited 147 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: to have the young man from Notre Dame and uh, 148 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: a guy that Joe Woods I think is is salivating 149 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: to use and put all over that defense. Third round 150 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: to wrap up the night, obviously we only had one 151 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: pick after trading that other third to Carolina, but a 152 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: pick ninety one, you get the speedster, you get the 153 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: fast wide receiver, maybe one of the fastest players, as 154 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: Dame Bruegler told us on Brown's Daily earlier in the week, 155 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: maybe one of the fastest players now in the National 156 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: Football League. And Anthony Schwartz six ft tall, hundred eighties 157 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: six pounds out of Auburn, a guy that can stretch 158 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: the defense and stretch the field for you. Yeah, and 159 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be interesting to see what the Browns 160 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: are are able to figure out what to do with him, 161 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: because I think he can do a lot of different things, 162 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: and I don't think his potential has been tapped into 163 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: yet as a receiver. I think it's it's not out 164 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: of line to say Auburn's quarterback play was not great. Uh, 165 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: these the last while Anthony Schwartz was hitting his prime. 166 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: I was told by someone down there it seemed like 167 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: he caught most of his passes behind the line of 168 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: scrimmage and just didn't have a lot of wigler and 169 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: do anything with He would get end a rounds behind 170 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: wide receivers that couldn't block. I mean, there's there's a 171 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: there's a lot to like about his potential. Uh. I mean, 172 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: I like the idea of him running end rounds around 173 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: U arguably some of the best blocking wide receivers in 174 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: the NFL that the Browns have, uh and Jarvis, Landry O'Dell, 175 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: get Darryl Hodge, all those guys can really block. And 176 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: I think that it just gives you something in this 177 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: offense that really wasn't there last year. And I think 178 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: you had it a little bit in O'Dell when he 179 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: was there the first half of the year, but he 180 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: was also your number one wide receiver. When you have 181 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: someone that has this skill set and also doesn't have 182 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: the responsibilities of your number one wide receiver, it can 183 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: really change things up. And if you have someone that 184 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: can stretch the field and open things up a little 185 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: bit more fro delon Jarvis, I mean that that really 186 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: helps you. So I think this is just a new 187 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: element to the Browns offense. That again, a twenty year 188 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: old player a lot in front of him, Olympic track speed. 189 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: I almost think of them moments like Marquis Goodwin when 190 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: he when he joined the league. There's just a lot 191 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: to like. And I like the chad Osha is gonna 192 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: be able to get his hands on him and he 193 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: saw what he was able to do with Donovan People's jones. 194 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: It'll be interest to see what you can get get 195 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 1: out Anthon Schwartz this year. Yeah, there's no question. I 196 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: mean the talent is there now that now it's up 197 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: to our staff to develop him and that will be 198 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: exciting to see. And you've got a good one in 199 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: Chad o'shay that's able to do that. We move on 200 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: to Day three, fourth round picks. Uh, we were gonna 201 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: have three of them. We got rid of one, moved 202 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: back a little bit. But with our first pick, we 203 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: take that swing tackle that we have been talking about needing. 204 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: James Hudson six pounds from Cincinnati, a guy that started 205 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: off on the defensive side of the foot all moved 206 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: to the offensive line, has that nice tenacity that you 207 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: bring from the defensive side didn't give up a sack 208 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: at Cincinnati. And as a guy that you're able to, 209 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: you know, you're able to develop and bring him along 210 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: and have him learned from some of the guys in 211 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: front of him on that offensive line. Yeah, and I 212 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: think that with with Hudson, and this is very similar 213 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: to the pick he made last year with Nick With 214 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 1: Nick Harris, I mean that you the Browns are set 215 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: at tackle with Jendck Wills and Jack Conklin. This year, 216 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: You've also got Chris Hubbard on the roster, so it's 217 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: not like you need him to step in right away 218 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: as your number one swing tackle option. Also had a 219 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: Greg Snat in the offseason, another tackle option. So that's 220 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: five players on this roster capable of playing tackle in 221 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: the NFL. You also have Alex Taylor and the roster 222 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: as well, so that's that's six tackles, which is a 223 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: lot more than this team had last year. I think 224 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: that honestly, even though you had some small, minor lene 225 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: injuries that Gender Coles and Jack Concklin had to deal 226 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: with last season, but you never had to deal with 227 00:10:58,160 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: kind of the big one like the Wyat Teller had 228 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: that kept enough for long stretches, so dodge the bullet 229 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: there with needing guys to step in. But I think 230 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a position where you can truly 231 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: have never too many guys. And I think Hudson has 232 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: not played a lot of football at left tackle, so 233 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: there's a lot of work to do, but a good 234 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: value there for someone that had a tremendous twenty season. Well, 235 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: and again, you've got good coaching. You've got good coaches 236 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: in the building that are able to coach him up. 237 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: And clearly Stefanski and companies saw something that they liked 238 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: in the young man out of Cincinnati. Later on in 239 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: the fourth round, Tommy togy I, the defensive tackle out 240 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: of Ohio State coming to the Browns name. Bruegeler was 241 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: talking about him and said, this guy was probably the 242 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: m v P of the Ohio State defense down the 243 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: stretch last year when Ohio State made their run uh 244 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: to the Big Ten Championship game and then in the 245 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: Clemson game, arguably was one of the top players on 246 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: defense that night in the National semifinals. So togy I 247 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: comes here and he feels a void and get into it. 248 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: We've added quite a few. We now have eight guys 249 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: in that defensive tackle room, but togy an intriguing prospect 250 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: out of Ohio State. Yeah, the room is doubled since 251 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 1: the start of the draft, and togy I was kind 252 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: of the first one to add there. And again, I 253 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: like it looks like he had They like his ability 254 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: as a pass rusher, but really he's he's going to 255 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: be in there and help you stop the run. And 256 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: I look at him some as someone that can help 257 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 1: you out with maybe Andrew Billings a spot and give 258 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: you a good rotational player. But again, with the amount 259 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: of players they added to this room, not a lot 260 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: of pressure on Togyat to step in and have to 261 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: play a lot right away. I think I just think 262 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: you have a lot of uncertainty in that room. So 263 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: the competition really is wide open. Like Bleek Jackson is 264 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: coming off a tough year. I mean, Andrew Billings did 265 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: not play last year. Geordan Elliott was a rookie and 266 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: didn't play a ton last year. So if he's able 267 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: and ready, the snaps are there. But again, at the 268 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: same time, you don't need him to I think you've 269 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 1: got enough options of players that have proven themselves in 270 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: the league. It's just who's going to be the best 271 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: for that you bring into this year And I think 272 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: togy I has a really good chance. And again a 273 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: value not only a fan favorite pick Bronze fans always 274 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: love when you pick go House state players, and I 275 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: think that that was that made a lot of folks happy. 276 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: But someone that that is just truly a physical freak 277 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: with what he can do on the bench press, and 278 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: someone that to me, whenever you look at those numbers 279 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: and this is like a combine tirade, but like I 280 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: don't get lost in the numbers of something like the 281 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: bench press or anything like that. I look at it 282 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: is like this guy worked really hard to get to 283 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: that level. And I think that that that kind of 284 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: commitment to something works well with what they want from 285 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: players on this team. I would agree with that It's 286 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: not about the numbers, it's it's prepping and taking the 287 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: time to prep for for that. There's something to be 288 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: said for that. Uh taking a look. In the fifth round, 289 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: the Browns go out and get a linebacker. They get safety. 290 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: In the sixth round, de Metric felt in the running 291 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: back out of U. C. L A. Tony Fields, the 292 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: linebacker from West Virginia count the safety from Georgia. Uh, 293 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: you know, just guys that are going to be able 294 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: to compete for roster spots, and guys that, again because 295 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: of your roster size and the talent already on your roster, 296 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: allows these three guys, I think to really take the 297 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: time to develop and and you you can develop these guys. 298 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: There's some talent here that we took late in the 299 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: draft that maybe gets overlooked because it is day three 300 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: of the draft. Yeah, and I think that it's weird. 301 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: Of the three, I think, like I think Dmitric Felton 302 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: has the best chance probably to come in right away 303 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: and and give you something you don't have. I liked 304 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: Lantzer lines uh comparable with him to theoretic you know, 305 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: the former Detroit Lions running back who has really built 306 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: like a wide receiver and really came away with more 307 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: receptions than he did uh Rushes. I mean, clearly, with 308 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: Nick Chopp and Cream Hunt, you don't need anyone really 309 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: to step in and fill the void from a running standpoint. 310 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: But and I know Kareem can catch the ball really well. 311 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: But this gives you a new element on someone that 312 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: can truly line up in the slot for you. If 313 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: you need to, uh, just a lot of different things 314 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: he's capable of doing, and I think that it'll be intriguing. Again, 315 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to go nuts about a six round 316 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: pick and what they can do right away, but this 317 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: is again a different element that you really don't have 318 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: on on the roster with guys on hand fields. To me, 319 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: is more of a tipping, more of an indication on 320 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: the direction this team is going at linebacker. Because another 321 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: player that's built like Ausu Cormo, a little bit on 322 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: the lighter side, but just a truly productive player produced 323 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: at both Arizona and West Virginia. And then Richard Lecounts 324 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: another one that was a big producer on the field 325 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: at Georgia, had had just big numbers, eight interceptions over 326 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: his career, a big hair as well, just had a 327 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: rough Pro day and that was coming off of he 328 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: had he was a few months removed from the motorcycle accident, 329 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: so just his times weren't great and I think that 330 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: that led him to slipping in the draft a little bit. 331 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: But a guy that played a lot of snaps a 332 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of start at at a school 333 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: like Georgia. I think that it's a good it's a 334 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: good value to get in the fifth round in a 335 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: safety room that really is loaded with guys that that 336 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: you don't necessarily need him to fill in right away, 337 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: so you look at him a special teams and then 338 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: the draft wraps up and the Browns for the second 339 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: consecutive year. Last year it was a J Green. This 340 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: year Marvin Wilson, defensive tackle out of Florida State. The 341 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: Browns win a bidding war basically and end up with 342 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: the undrafted defensive tackle from Florida State. Six four, three 343 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: hundred three pounds, appeared in thirty nine games, nineteen starts, 344 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: nine and a half sacks, a hundred ten tackles, um 345 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: his three block kicks in second team all a c 346 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: C in. And here's a guy that just you know, 347 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: just fell a little bit, fell out, ended up falling 348 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: out of the draft. The Browns right place, right time, 349 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: but done their homework and already reached out and had 350 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: a head start on him, and they're able to lock 351 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: him in. And another a guy that, again, if you're 352 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: Chris Kiffin, you gotta be ecstatic with how your defensive 353 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: line room was looking. Yeah, I mean, great pedigree with him. 354 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: I think he's a five star cruit coming out of 355 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: high school. I think for him it was one of 356 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 1: those where his twenty just wasn't as good as as 357 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: his twenty nineteen season, So I think that contributed to 358 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: the fall. Uh. It's interesting he's listed at three or 359 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: three now. I think he atforda state he was listed 360 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: three nineteen, so coming in a little bit uh lighter 361 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: than he was in college. That's that's something to keep 362 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: an eye on that it could be in a lot 363 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: better shape as well. So again another body that you're 364 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: thrown at a position where there could be an opportunity 365 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: to break through. And I think that when you see 366 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: these highly priced undrafted free agents, there are guys that 367 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: are probably could have been seventh round pick uh, that 368 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: it just made more sense to the teams that it 369 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: might might have even been more intriguing for them to 370 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: be undrafted free agents, because I think the same with 371 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: a J. Green last year. But as we saw with 372 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: a J. Green, just because you get this big deal 373 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: and and just because everything it's it's still really hard 374 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: to make a competitive roster. And this is a very 375 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: competitive roster. I mean, and you think about it too, 376 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: gives you've been with this with the Browns in some 377 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 1: ways since I think two thousand, thirteen twelve, I've been 378 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: with the Browns and shows in fourteen this is by 379 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: far the smallest undrafted free agent class the team has signed. 380 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: I mean, only five players. I think last year the 381 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: round signed fifteen. Uh. And so this is that just 382 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: shows the level of the caliber that this this roster 383 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: is at right now. Uh. And it's it's gonna be 384 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: real challenging for any of these five guys uh to 385 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: to make the team and and and really let alone 386 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: practice squad because there's just a lot of a lot 387 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: of a lot of talent to beat out to these spots. 388 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 1: But we see it all across the league. Patriots have 389 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: had undrafted free agents standout. All the good teams have 390 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: undrafted free agents breakthrough. So so the Browns shouldn't be 391 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: any different. It's just the opportunities there for them. Yeah, 392 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: it really is when you take a look at this 393 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: roster as a whole. And again after the draft ended, 394 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: the Browns were pretty active. They got defensive tackle Malik McDowell, 395 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: defensive tackle Damien square Um. Again, like all of a sudden, 396 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: there's eight defensive tackles now you've got upwards of ten 397 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: eleven linebackers in that room. Um, guys, you know positions 398 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: that we thought might have some shortages. I mean, you 399 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: have an overabundance of talent and training camp is just 400 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: gonna be fascinating to watch and see how this all 401 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: plays out, because ultimately there are some people that are 402 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: gonna get cut, that are gonna be on other rosters 403 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: on opening day and playing meaningful snaps for other teams. Yeah, 404 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: the position that the two that are probably the most 405 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: wide open or most intriguing are probably corner and d 406 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: tackle in terms of the competition. And I think the 407 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: interesting thing is when you look at defensive tackle specifically, 408 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: it's it's almost as if the Browns have been known 409 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: to sign a lot of guys that are hitting the 410 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: prime of their career coming off their first contracts. But 411 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: a defensive tackle, you added two veterans that suddenly become 412 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: to the oldest guys in the team, and in Malik Jackson, 413 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: uh and Damien Square, who's thirty two, so he's the 414 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: second oldest guy on the team. Has played a lot 415 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: of football. I mean I covered him at Alabama way 416 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: back when I mean he was on the uh team 417 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: that won the national title. I mean he's been he's 418 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: been in the league for a while. I mean, this 419 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: is a guy that came out of Alabamas an undrafted 420 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: free agent, really just found his niche with the Chargers 421 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: and and and was just a key rotational guy for 422 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: them for so many years. Uh. So I think that 423 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: they're really I wonder for especially for the d tackle room, 424 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: where they're like, we need some more veteran savvy we 425 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: need to fill in where where the void that that 426 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: Sheldon provided in that room. And that's I think that, 427 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: to me, was was intriguing to add two guys that 428 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: are are nearing the end of their careers but still 429 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: have something left to get. Yeah, and I think it 430 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: will be interesting. I got a feeling that there's probably 431 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: still a little question, you know, with Billings sitting out 432 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: last year. You know, you don't know when a player 433 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: sits up a year what they're gonna be like coming back, 434 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: and that no no one questions, you know anybody that 435 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: that sat out, you know, saying Drew Forbes coming back. 436 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: You know, you just don't know. It's the same thing 437 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: with the college kids that opted out and didn't play 438 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: for a year. You really don't know how they're gonna 439 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: come back and how they're gonna respond. And you know, 440 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: I think you're just bolstering those positions with talent and 441 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: competition and let the best players rise to the top 442 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: and let's move forward with it from there. But man, 443 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: there is a lot going on on this football team 444 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: and a lot of different things to watch, and all 445 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: in a positive way. You know, we're not looking you know, 446 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: we're not wondering how many undrafted guys are gonna make 447 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: the team. I mean you're wondering, are the guys that 448 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: were drafted late in the round is gonna make the 449 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: football team? Yeah? No, I mean we went into this 450 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: thinking that the team would even make eight picks and 451 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: and end up being eight, and so I mean, again, 452 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting. I think that the guys in the 453 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: first four rounds are typically pretty safe. I mean, I've 454 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: been around to see a fourth round pick and get 455 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: cut and in Vince Maylie uh in two thou fifteen, 456 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: So it definitely can happen. But yeah, I mean, I 457 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 1: think it gives it the one position though that did 458 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: not get addressed, and I think could potentially be viewed 459 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: as a very good weekend for a guy like a 460 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: Porter Augustin, a Cameron malbow is the addressers, and I 461 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: think that was the one position that didn't get addressed. 462 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: You did in free agency obviously attack McKinley and Jadavean Clowney. 463 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: But again, I think that's an endorsement for a Porter 464 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: Gustin and what he was able to do uh last 465 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: season and kind of showed that the Browns were going 466 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: to reach for some players just to add a body 467 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: to the position. And I think that as you saw, 468 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: I think some of these d dressers that maybe we 469 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: had pegged as second round guys ended up falling because 470 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: I think teams weren't sold. The Bengals took Joseph Aside 471 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: in the third round. I think some people had him 472 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: even going in the first round. I think you've had 473 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: the issues with the player in Tennessee, Rashad Weaver that 474 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: was pegged as like a second round guy went in 475 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: the fourth round and then lo and behold, there's there's 476 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: a an arrest that that was out for it. So 477 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: it's it was not a great We knew this going 478 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: in not a great addresser class, and it turned out 479 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: that it wasn't even as highly ranked as we thought 480 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: it would be. Yeah, no, I think not just defensive tackle, 481 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: butt edge rusher. You know, I think both defensive life. 482 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: I mean we had heard defensive tackle. Well, after the 483 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: top two, there's a there's a fall off. Well, you know, 484 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: you you were able to get the defensive tack a 485 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: lout of Ohio State in round four, and you were 486 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: able to sign Marvin Wilson uh as an undrafted free agent. 487 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: But you know, I think again, that's why you bring 488 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: in a couple of bets and see how things play out. 489 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: And more importantly, you bring it in guys that have 490 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: chips on their shoulders from either a draft standpoint where 491 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: they were drafted, or guys with something to prove. I 492 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 1: mean it goes back to tack McKinley, a defensive end, 493 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: you know. I mean you can make the argument it's 494 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: his last chance to prove himself. And you know a 495 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: lot of these guys was something to play for here 496 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: in that that will only help the competition with this 497 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: football team. That's a look at the Browns Draft Hall 498 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: for more on our draft hall. I had a chance 499 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: to sit down with defensive tackle Marvin Wilson from Florida State, 500 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: undrafted guy that was in demand when the draft ended, 501 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: and the Browns ended up with him. Here's a look 502 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: and listen to that conversation, and here on the best 503 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: podcast available, we are happy to be joined by Marvin Wilson, 504 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: defensive tackle Florida State and the newest member of the 505 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. A very a very popular player, a player 506 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: that was in demand as the draft wound down, and 507 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: a player that ended up coming here to the c L. 508 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: We could not be more excited Marvin. Appreciate you taking 509 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: a few minutes to join us, and uh excited to 510 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: have you here. What is the past week been like 511 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: for you and your family? I'm sure a roller coaster 512 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: of emotions here over the last few days most definitely, 513 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: you know, the draft did and go as as playing 514 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: for me personally, you know, went going undrafted, So definitely 515 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: was a roller coaster, you know, really a lot of downs, 516 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: not a lot of highs, you know, but at the 517 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: same time, you know, I got an opportunity to go 518 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: out to Cleveland, you know, show everybody what I can do. 519 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: You know, That's all I could ask for. You did 520 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: have a number of teams asking about your why Cleveland 521 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: on Cleveland just seemed like the perfect situation from you know, 522 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: the beef as they run, you know, type of guys 523 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: they have I'll be playing with, especially on the defensive side. 524 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: From uh, from the d N standpoint, D tackles are 525 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: really a linebackers NDB. You know, just seeing this seemed 526 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: like a great place to me to be. Come in 527 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: and get it and get in where I fit in. 528 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: All right, So you're from Houston, you played in Florida. 529 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: Has anybody warned you about the weather here in December? Yes, sir, 530 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not worried about the cool with them though, 531 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: I'm ready to embrace it. Good good, It's it's fun, 532 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: especially in December when when the team is playing well 533 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: and winning football games. It's a lot of fun and 534 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: the cold really doesn't matter that much. So uh that 535 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: being said, you know, it gets a little dicey. It's 536 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: it's finally perking up. The summers here are are quite nice. 537 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: As we talked to Marvin Wilson here. Now, are you 538 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: back home in Houston right now? Yeah, so I'm in 539 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: Houston right now. So I'm just out here working out, 540 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: you know, getting ready to go go to Cleveland. Okay, Um, 541 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: a pretty big high school football player, an amazing high 542 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: school career, in demand, scholarship offers from l s U, Oklahoma, 543 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 1: Ohio State, Florida State. You end up going to Florida State. 544 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: Why did you go to Florida State? You know, I'm 545 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: coming out of high school. You had Jimbo Offisher there, 546 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: and you know you had great guys like Derwin James, 547 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: Derek Noddy, you know, Josh Switt, you know, Brian Burner, 548 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: list can go on. Who I was gonna come in 549 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: and play behind, you know, and really learned from the 550 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: Florida State seem other place to be for me, you know, 551 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,239 Speaker 1: special coach of that Hagens. You know I came in, Um, 552 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: it was like probably night from the depth chart. We 553 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: had like eight d tackles in front of me. So 554 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: you know, I came in and compete, you know, just 555 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: get on the field. You know, just taught me a 556 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: lot of toughness going in, you know, just going throughout 557 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: my career. Didn't like when when it when it lost, 558 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: wise I didn't go as I planned. But at the 559 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: same time, it's like I learned how to compete, you know, 560 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: come in every single day and get better. So you 561 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: know that was probably the best opportunity for me to 562 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: go in. Was that the biggest challenge for you Yeah, 563 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: most definitely, especially me just coming from um my past past, 564 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: like high school, just you know, always been a winner. 565 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: You know, I never never, never had no feel with 566 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: losing season, felt like, you know, all this was in 567 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: championship with one championship, so you know it's definitely we 568 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: got different perspective of you know, playing football, you know, 569 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: not when things don't go anyway, and you know, just 570 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: being able to get up every single day and work harder. 571 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: You know, man, dust the dust off yesterday and today 572 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: is a new day. You had the opportunity to come 573 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: out a year ago, you chose not to. Why Why 574 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: I go back to school for one more year? Because 575 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: lot of things I need to improve on as a 576 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: getting ready to be a pro. You know, I feel 577 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: like planning wise, the different was there. But you know, 578 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: just as for watching film, you know, to break down 579 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: my opponent, you know, give my coach o'dal to learn more. 580 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: You know, I feel like I need to get a 581 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: lot of things I need to polish up on more 582 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: before I go to the next level. How much did 583 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: your coaches help you, not just from a football uh 584 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: mindset and skill level in terms of development, but just 585 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: developing as a person. Over the last few or four years, 586 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,479 Speaker 1: UM a lot, you know, especially getting a coach o'dal. 587 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: You know, I've got to get four years with him, 588 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: you know, want the best to me, the best coach 589 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: in college football, you know, for the tackle, the position, 590 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: you know, and I got to really got to get 591 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: with him. He was telling me how to handle myself 592 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: on and I fulfeel, you know, be a great person, 593 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: be a great leader, you know, just knowing how to 594 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: do everything the right way. That's pretty cool. And that's 595 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: you can only hope to have those kind of relationships. 596 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: I think when you go off to college that you're 597 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: able to have a guy like that, a coach like 598 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: that that can help you, not just you know, we 599 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: we talked so much about developing people as players, but 600 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: how about developing people as people? And I think that 601 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: there's something to be said for that. Most definitely, all right, 602 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: most memorable game at Florida State I probably say Louisville 603 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen or probably Boys State. You know, those two games, 604 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: I felt like, um, only one when we lost to 605 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: games that was really fun. You know, I feel like 606 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: us as a defense night just me having a great 607 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: time making place, but just us at the team as 608 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: a mindset was all of one accord and went out 609 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: there just had fun. You know. So definitely saying about 610 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: of those two games. Talking with Marvin Wilson. Wilson undrafted 611 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: defensive tackle out of Florida State choosing to come to 612 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: Cleveland and we're excited to have him in that defensive 613 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: tackle room here on the best podcast available too simplic 614 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: you're the youngest of three, Yeah, the youngest of three. 615 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: I'm the youngest of four four four Okay, brothers, sisters. 616 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: What do you got? I got one sister and two brothers? Okay? 617 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: What was that like growing up in Houston? It was 618 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: that that bad? Is my two of my my older 619 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: siblings are a lot older than me, so you know 620 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: I would have grew up in the house with Jonathan, 621 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: that's my handicapped brother. So you know it was that 622 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: it wasn't that bad. You know the face. We had 623 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: our challenges from time to time. What did you learn 624 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: from your your brother? Uh, that's closest to you age wise, 625 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: most definitely patients, you know, being able to help out 626 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: with him, you know, the different things he struggled with 627 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: on a day to day basis. So I feel like 628 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: I learned patiences more than anything, well, just being around him. 629 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: And talk about your relationship with your mother, you know, 630 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: I think that that's in doing some research, you clearly 631 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: have a close knit relationship. And you know, usually an 632 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: athlete coming out, especially this time of year, coming into 633 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: the professional ranks, they relate back to to a parent, 634 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: whether it's a mother, whether it's a father. Talk about 635 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: the relationship with your mother, because it's I think it's 636 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: one that's maybe people don't realize how strong it is. 637 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: It's very strong. You know. I'm just watch my mom, 638 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: you know, provide every single day, you know, especially despite 639 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: the challenges that we faced growing up here in Houston. 640 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: So you know, I just saw my mom, no matter 641 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: what the situation was, she got up every single day 642 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: and went to work and made it wait for us. 643 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: So you know, that's the one thing I took it 644 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: too going into my work. You know, no matter what 645 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: challenge I'm face every single day, you gotta get up 646 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: and you gotta make it happen. So you know, I 647 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: definitely watched my mom, you know, make it happen every 648 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: single day. She did not take it easy on you. 649 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: I recall reading a few things, um, you know, telling 650 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: you to leave stuff out the door, stuff when you 651 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: came in. And I know that you've bounced a lot 652 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: of advice off of her YouTube again very close most definitely, 653 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: So you know, just no matter what challenge I go through, 654 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: she she calls it, hit hit the door every single morning. 655 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: You know, whatever you're facing on outside of your place 656 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: of work, you hit the door, You leave it at 657 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: the door, and you go be the best person you 658 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: can around the people that you work with, and once 659 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: you leave, you pick up all your problems. You know. 660 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: So that's probably one of the best piece of advice 661 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: my mom ever gating and going, which is growing up. 662 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: Talking with Marvin Wilson, defensive tackle from Florida State and 663 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: the newest member of the Cleveland Browns here on the 664 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: best podcast available, talk a little bit about coming to 665 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: Cleveland and if you've had a chance, what the message 666 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: has been from Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski as it 667 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: relates to coming here. What what did they do to 668 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: tell you? What did they do to sell you on 669 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: this football team? Honestly, I have opportunity, you know, and 670 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: I'm being undrafted guy. You know, I'm just coming in. 671 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: I have opportunities to make the team. You know. That's 672 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: more than I can ask for, you know, being undrafted 673 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: free agent, you know, have opportunity to come in and 674 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: compete for a spot, you know, and make the roster. 675 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: So you know, that's all I need, you know, me, 676 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: just me just being me, especially coming from Florida State 677 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: my freshman year, being overweighted, things like that, I still 678 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: was able to prect the lina being out being out 679 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: fortified by the guys, just to make make it to 680 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: the second to the third string. So you know, me 681 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: being uh, the past jokes that I faced, That's all 682 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: I need was Sony comes, show what I can do. 683 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: So you know, that's all I need to hear. When 684 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: you take a look at everything that's happened in the 685 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: last year and change with this pandemic with COVID nineteen, um, 686 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: you know, it impacted obviously the college football season last year. 687 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: It impacted how the off season was this year leading 688 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: up to the draft, and not having a combine for 689 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: the first time ever. Um, And now you get into 690 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: a setting where you know, outside of the rookie Minicamp. 691 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: It's gonna be virtual for the most part. So one 692 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: of the biggest challenges that face you and what have 693 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: you learned from the last year that you think can 694 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: help you overcome some of those challenges really just being 695 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: able to just continues in work every single day, you know, 696 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: you know, just being away from all the guys you know, 697 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: and I'll be able to get that one on one 698 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: what coaches and things like that. Being in the environment 699 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: gets and gets to get used to everybody. You know, 700 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: you gotta make yourself better every single day, so you know, 701 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: one thing you can't do away from everybody else, continue 702 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: and prove yourself. So that's one biggest thing I learned 703 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: throughout the pandemic and just this last season is learned 704 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: how to continue to be better every single day when 705 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: nobody else to watch. And that goes back to, you know, 706 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: being able to work out, being disciplined. You know, we 707 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: we were just talking before we started. I know, you 708 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: just gotta work out in but it's all about being 709 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: disciplined enough to know what you have to do so 710 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: that you are ready to go come training camp. But 711 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 1: in the late July, most definitely talking with Marvin Wilson 712 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: from Florida State. Why do you fit into Joe Wood's 713 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: scheme as as coach talked to you at all about that? 714 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: Have you have you seen anything with a playbook or 715 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: anything like that yet? Oh yeah, I'll just started to 716 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: get my meetings, you know, getting for me going through 717 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: the basics of basics of our first couple of plays 718 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: in the playbook, you know, I mean just me just 719 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: getting used to get a feel with coach want you know, 720 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 1: that's that's a type of coach I came from. Coach. 721 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: It does whatever coach wants, you gotta provide it, you know. 722 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: And so me me being a player I am, you know, 723 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: I want to come in and whatever coach coaching him 724 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: and coach if want me want for me, I don't 725 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 1: be and getting so they want to be a very 726 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: attack attack now to react people's attack go out and 727 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 1: caused the disruption you know, and calls having in the backfield. 728 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: So you know that's what coach gonna get out of, 729 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: you know, being able to load my hands in on 730 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: the ground and get off and cause disruption. Joe Woods 731 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: was already flying high on cloud nine since free agency 732 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 1: with all that this team has done on the defensive 733 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: side of the football, and then the draft happens, and 734 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: then I heard he saw your tape and that you 735 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 1: were coming and they had to talk him off the ledge. 736 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: He was so excited. He is, he's pretty fired up 737 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: about what he's seen from you and what you can do. 738 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: And I know Chris Kiffin is as well. What's Coach 739 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: Kiffin talk to you about and what it's What has 740 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 1: it been like the first couple of days in that 741 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: defensive line room that that's pretty big. And they got 742 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: a guy named Garrett in there as well. That's pretty 743 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: much football player. Um was really just I've been having 744 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: one on one meetings first, uh, for first couple of times. 745 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: You know, I don't have two meetings so forth. So um, 746 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: I really haven't got to really meet with everybody else, 747 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: you know, get to know him and just really start 748 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: picking picking people's brains. But the first cop meetings have 749 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: been very basic, you know, just getting to know everybody, 750 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: mean getting know each other. No getting over the basis 751 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 1: of defense. You know what coach, what coach want wants 752 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 1: out of me? You know, what's the expectations of being 753 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: in Cleveland Brown, So you know, we mean, we're really 754 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: throughout the basis right now. Okay, has have you heard 755 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 1: from anybody on the team if some of the guys 756 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: reached out to you at all. Jordan Elliott reached out 757 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 1: to me when if we first heard I got uh 758 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: when I went signed to the team. You know, he's 759 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: a Houston guy. I knew him throughout high school, so 760 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: you know it's good to him from him when I 761 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: first when I first signed. That's awesome. He is. We 762 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: like him quite a bit. We think we think he's 763 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: quite the talent. All right, Before I let you go, 764 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 1: Marvin Wilson Poetry, Have you wont awards? And my correct 765 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 1: knowing that you've won an award free poet, Yeah, I 766 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: won't want to high school? Uh, definitely definitely When I 767 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: was very admit that Whiting and Poetry was definitely high school. 768 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: I want UM's got what which awarded was? Uh? But yeah, 769 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: I entered into one of my poems and I definitely 770 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: went away. I can tell you it is the Silver 771 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:15,760 Speaker 1: Key Scholastic Arts Award. You're still right from time to time? Yes, okay, 772 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 1: all right? Is it what got you into that? No, 773 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: I'm really just uh me just being a way to 774 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: express myself, you know, only to an other way. I 775 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 1: know I expressed myself with the football field, you know, 776 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: taking my ang guy, so you know, definitely right and 777 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,879 Speaker 1: came into my proportion. Uh how I expressed myself doing 778 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: high school. Not got to creative writing, you know as 779 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: elective that coach just threw me in at one point 780 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,439 Speaker 1: that I end up just liking it at the while. 781 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: Marvin Wilson, we appreciate the time. Uh, congratulations on becoming 782 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: a Cleveland Brown. We're excited to have you. I'm excited 783 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: to see you next week up here at rookie Minicamp 784 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: and really excited to see when the pads come on 785 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 1: here in late July early August. Uh, what you can 786 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: bring to this football team. Congratulations is on everything. Welcome 787 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: to the team. Give mom a big hug, Tell mom 788 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: to come like. We got a pretty good we got 789 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: a we got a pretty cool city. I think you're 790 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 1: gonna so um. Wish you all the best of luck 791 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: and look forward to seeing you and talking to you 792 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: next week when you're hearing Cleveland. Yes, I appreciate you, Adam. 793 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 1: All right, that's Marvin Wilson. Thanks to Jeff McDaniel. Thanks 794 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: to Andrew Gribble. Make sure you like and subscribe today 795 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 1: to the best podcast available. Wherever you get your podcast. 796 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: You can also watch us on YouTube at YouTube dot 797 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 1: com slash Browns for Andrew Gribble, I'm Jason Gibbs. 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