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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to the State of the Lakers on

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Speaker 1: DASH Radio. Thank you guys for coming to hang out

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Speaker 1: on a Monday. I hope you had a good holiday weekend.

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Speaker 1: I hope you got to spend some time with your

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Speaker 1: loved ones. I hope if you did have to work

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason, I hope it was a nice, easy weekend. Uh.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna hit a couple of mail back questions today,

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Speaker 1: and I also want to talk briefly about Russell Westbrooks

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Speaker 1: press conference today. UM, you know, we have a bunch

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Speaker 1: of games coming up over the next week. I think

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Speaker 1: we play four times in the next six nights if

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Speaker 1: I remember correctly, because I think we played Tuesday, Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: Thursday off, play Friday, Saturday off, and then play Sunday.

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of Laker basketball over the

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Speaker 1: course of the next week, a lot of postgame shows.

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to take a second today to hit

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Speaker 1: some of your guys questions, and you guys ask some

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Speaker 1: really good questions and I appreciate that. Um, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk a lot of Russell westbrook We're gonna talk a

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Speaker 1: lot about the trade deadline and what this roster specifically

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Speaker 1: is going to be looking like moving forward. But let's

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Speaker 1: start with Russ. So uh, Basically, in the press conference today,

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Speaker 1: he seemed defiant would be the word that I would

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Speaker 1: tired of paying attention to what people think he should

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Speaker 1: same statistical numbers that he used to put up in

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Speaker 1: years past, which I think is interesting for a couple

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Speaker 1: situational awareness. It doesn't seem like he understands what this

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Speaker 1: team needs from him, and they do. The team needs

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Speaker 1: Russ to be Russ. That goes without saying I think

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Speaker 1: there's a there's a ton of positivity that comes with

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Speaker 1: his brand of chaos. The amount of rim pressure that

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Speaker 1: he generates is always good for a basketball team in

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Speaker 1: one shape or the other, whether it's him finishing, or

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Speaker 1: whether it's guys coming in behind for offensive rebounds off

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Speaker 1: three point shooters, or just a general effect he can

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Speaker 1: it creates for everyone else that goes without saying, and

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Speaker 1: that to me is Russ being Russ. Yes, we need

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Speaker 1: him to continue to be that relentless basket attacker that

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Speaker 1: learns that lesson, And that, to me is what frustrates

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Speaker 1: me about that lack of situation situational awareness. Again, Rus,

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Speaker 1: we want you to do all of those things that

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Speaker 1: You have a weakness that manifests in a desire to

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Speaker 1: I understand the motivation behind you doing that, but it

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Speaker 1: So you have to fight your own human nature to

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Speaker 1: You have to pay attention to a shooter off the

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Speaker 1: That is your job on any given play. When you

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Speaker 1: very beginning, from the moment this trade took place, I

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Speaker 1: That never mattered to me, you know, because they're smart

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Speaker 1: What I've always worried about is the key moment at

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Speaker 1: That the that that's the part that he has to

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Speaker 1: That's like I said in the pod the other day.

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Speaker 1: He could look amazing for the rest of the season,

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Speaker 1: of these mail bad questions. So first question from Byron,

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Speaker 1: th ht s trade value diminished? I don't think so. Um.

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Speaker 1: establishing spacing this entire season. That We've talked a lot

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Speaker 1: Okay see, But there was a huge difference between those

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Speaker 1: a lot of the bat has come with that. And again,

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Speaker 1: But that's where the optimism comes from. The optimism stems

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Speaker 1: it's forced the team to lean more into shooting in

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Speaker 1: this sort of situation where they're actually leaning into their strengths,

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Speaker 1: it could work. I just got to build on the margins.

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Speaker 1: Gotta flip THHD and Kendrick Nunn for something of value

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Speaker 1: keep Stanley Johnson, drop guys like DeAndre Jordan's. If Darren

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Speaker 1: for Rondo. We have to make improvements on the margins

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Speaker 1: because we're not as good as we need to be.

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Speaker 1: But that's where the silver lining comes from. The optimism

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Speaker 1: he has had in previous seasons. Al Right, guys, gonna

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Speaker 1: keep it short today, That's all I have. This is

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Speaker 1: gonna be on dash Radi out tomorrow morning at seven

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Speaker 1: am Pacific Standard time, and it will also be on

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Speaker 1: our podcast feed here shortly. I appreciate your support, as

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Speaker 1: always have been blown away by how many of you

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Speaker 1: guys have come to hang out with us in our

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Speaker 1: post game spaces. We're gonna have a bunch of postgame

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Speaker 1: shows the rest of this week Tuesday night, Wednesday night,

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Speaker 1: Friday night, and Sunday. All Right, you guys, enjoy the

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Speaker 1: rest of your night and have a good rest of

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Speaker 1: your week, and we'll talk to you tomorrow