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Speaker 1: the podcast from Bozeman, Montana. Kevin Harlander all right, welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Bear Hunting Magazine podcast. I am in Bozeman, Montana,

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Speaker 1: First Lights. Yeah, we are, man, this is really cool

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Speaker 1: company ever. We were the first company ever, I should say,

427
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 1: to print a pattern on Marino wool. Historically, Marino will

428
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 1: have been used in the ski industry and outdoor industry,

429
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 1: but have been solid color because they couldn't figure out

430
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 1: how to Yeah, for some reason. Um, so that that's

431
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 1: kind of where it started, right, was we understood that

432
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 1: there was this high quality material um that could be

433
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 1: close to skin, next to skin, that could serve as

434
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 1: sort of your base layer for all activity, whether it

435
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: was ninety degrees in South Texas or twelve degrees in

436
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 1: northern Minnesota. And understand, Um, so when you talk about

437
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: a kid from first, let me stop right there. In

438
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: both of those situations, that's what you want is a

439
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 1: marino wool against your skin. Yeah. It keeps it cold

440
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 1: when you're when you're in hot temperatures, and keeps it

441
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: because it's quicking. And and maybe we could even just

442
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 1: stop right there and talk about marino wool, which this

443
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: is this is something that people typically in the southern

444
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: hunting culture don't understand, but actually, what you want to

445
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: be wearing when it's eighty five degrees and you're on

446
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: an active hunt is marino wool. Yeah, that's exactly because

447
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: you guys make all sorts of super light stuff that's

448
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: gonna wick moisture away. Number one, It pulls moisture away

449
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 1: from the skin, but it drives quickly number two, So

450
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: it drives way quicker than cotton. I don't know that

451
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 1: it would be interesting to actually hear the science of

452
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 1: why or how, but it does. It drives much quicker.

453
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: So all of us have been wearing a cotton shirt

454
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: and just drenched it and then it stays wet and

455
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: damp the whole day, certainly, And I'm familiar with that humidity. Girl,

456
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: And I said it was brutally hot. And I actually

457
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 1: just got back from a hunt in Texas. Um. We're

458
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 1: down there twice this spring, and we're in deep like

459
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: South Texas, right on the border, and it was hot,

460
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: like a hundred degrees not even sent human any brutal,

461
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: And I'm wearing that. We make a piece called a

462
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: wick hoodie and it's it's a hooded shirt and you

463
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't really think man of hood and that hot of

464
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: temperature would be brutal, but it's the hundred fifty weight.

465
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: It's called our wick. Um and I was reasonably comfortable.

466
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: And I think the biggest part is, yeah, you're gonna

467
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: sweat even if you're you know, wearing nothing, You're gonna sweat, right,

468
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: But the ability for that garment to take your sweat

469
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: and pull it off your skin hold on it and

470
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 1: then get rid of it. It's pretty incredible, and you

471
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 1: know you're drying pretty quickly, set and quick, Yeah, certainly.

472
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 1: And then and then the third thing is that it

473
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 1: holds much less odor. I mean, certainly, and you don't

474
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 1: even realize it until you begin to compare the two

475
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: fabrics after you've wore them. But I mean, like you

476
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 1: take a cotton shirt and you sweat in it all

477
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 1: day that night, whether you're back at your tin or

478
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: back at your house or wherever, you pick up that

479
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: shirt the next day, it smells terrible. Yeah, I mean,

480
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: you're getting a friend of mine. We're just talking about

481
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: James now. She wrote his motorcycle in a wicked T

482
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 1: shirt for a thout, like I think, in the same

483
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 1: T shirt ten days, and that dude stinks usually and

484
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: he didn't smell at all. He's really impressed. So there's

485
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: examples like that right where if you did that in

486
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: the cotton shirt, you'd be it would be pretty brutal.

487
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: So those two, those three things are there are the

488
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: fundamental things that you gotta understand if you're gonna wear Marino.

489
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: That that's why you do it versus cotton. Now, cotton

490
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: is comfortable. I mean that's probably the primary Cotton is

491
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 1: comfortable and cheap and comfortable when it's dry anyway. But

492
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: the thing about this Marino that to fill in the

493
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 1: gaps from somebody like me who grew up in the

494
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 1: in the wool that my dad used to make me

495
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 1: wear sometimes was like prickly. This Marino wool is Um,

496
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 1: it's basically comparable to cotton, and its softness in the

497
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: way it feels against the skin softer too, yeah, yeah, yeah,

498
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: yeah for sure. And the reason there is so the

499
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 1: Marino wool comes from obviously a different sheep, the Marino sheep. Um,

500
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: it's just a softer wool, and it feels good on

501
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: your skin. You know, it's not agitating at all. Um.

502
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 1: The nice part about Marino as well as in our garments,

503
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: we mix out with just a little bit of stretch

504
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: material so um. You know, classic marino or any sort

505
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: of wool, over time sort of wears down. But if

506
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: you implement these these little bit of synthetic and just

507
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: a little bit of stretch, I mean, that thing holds

508
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 1: up for for a good lifetime. So you know, I

509
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: heard this is interesting to me thinking about the biology

510
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: of it. But I heard I think I heard Scott

511
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: Robinson say that, but the marino sheep. The reason that

512
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: marino wool on a human is good to wear when

513
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: it's hot and also good to wear when it's cold

514
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: is because the temperature where these sheep are can get

515
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: ultra hot but also ultra cold. So this animal can't

516
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: molt and shed to this degree of actually what it needs,

517
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: so it had to it formed this this covering that

518
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: would thermal regulate. When it was hot, they it would

519
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: draw heat away and draw moisture away, but when it

520
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: was cold and insult So it's kind of cool to

521
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: think you're taking this natural resource that was designed to

522
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: do this very thing and spin it into yarn and

523
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 1: making garments. And I think probably the biggest complain, if

524
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: if we're just being honest about it, is that the

525
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: durability of just a hundred percent marino will which I've had,

526
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: and I want to go back to just educating people,

527
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: because I think if people are educated, there there more

528
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: they understand. And I heard Scott say this is that, Um,

529
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, I've had I've had some hund percent marino

530
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: wool stuff that started to get some holes in it

531
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: after time and stuff um, but when you spin in

532
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 1: the synthetics, it does make it stronger. But Scott was

533
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: saying about how you're really dealing with a natural commodity

534
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: that has differences. I mean, like it's like it's like

535
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: being a logger and you're cutting down a forest that

536
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: like had really fast growth and wide tree rings, and

537
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: the lumber is just a little bit different than like

538
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: this old slow growth stuff. Maybe it's the same kind

539
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: of tree. And so he's saying that there's even variations

540
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: in wool from different years and different suppliers, and I

541
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: mean think you'll get it off from the same supplier,

542
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: but yeah, certainly, And I mean those sheep if you

543
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: think about it, like the um, the difference in cheap

544
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: one versus sheep three is probably the bit of a

545
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 1: difference because they're different individuals. But that's a pretty cool

546
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: process too, to be using natural fiber um, you know,

547
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: to to create these garments, for sure. Yeah, but it

548
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: helps me to think that, like you know, we just

549
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: we just buy clothing and put it on and you

550
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: don't ever think about like this is actually it's almost

551
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: like a an art as much as it's a science.

552
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: And making this, making this gear and Scott was also

553
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: talking about how they've gone too. I'm pretty sure he

554
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: said they've gone to New Zealand and met these farmers

555
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: and and uh and the commodity it's a it's it's

556
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: a commodity that can become scarce and so they have

557
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: to have relationships with these guys so that if if

558
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: it is scarce, that they'll sell to you guys rather

559
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: than to sell to someone else anyway, and it was yeah,

560
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: and it's an interesting world, you know. I'm just kind

561
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: of diving in where, like we mentioned, we're getting into

562
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: sort of our testing cycle for our years down the

563
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: roads gear. Um, so I've been learning a little bit

564
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: more about that process and it is interesting because it

565
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: comes down to relationships and especially on the gear test side,

566
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: all the way down to the raw materials. You know.

567
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: That's what's cool about a small company. Um. We have

568
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: the ability to go and meet those people you know,

569
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: on the ground, which well anything else too. Well. So

570
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: the foundation at first slide is this is Marino. Yeah,

571
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: so we've yeah, we've expanded past that way past, but

572
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: that is sort of that is the foundation, and I

573
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: think that's the most important component any kit, right, Um,

574
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: you start what's actually touching your skin. Yeah, you start

575
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: the skin and you work your way out. Arguably, I

576
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: would say that the most the two most important pieces

577
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: early in your kid are your boots and your bass layer. Um,

578
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: just because it spends the most time on your body. Yeah, yeah,

579
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: for sure. So what about what about talk to me

580
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: about just some of the other outerwear and gear. And

581
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: I mean, like, so you were talking about the kids,

582
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: So walk me through a kit there which I stopped.

583
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: I interrupted you, Kevin, I'm just talking nerd and out

584
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: about Marino will no, I I hear you. So, um, well,

585
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: we'll probably do like a let's let's just go through

586
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,959
Speaker 1: like my everyday ultimate kid right there we go. So,

587
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing to start with in any

588
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: kit is, like we mentioned that sort of that bass layer, um,

589
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: and the main component of my base layer it starts

590
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: with those wick long boxer briefs, um, just because that

591
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: is something that's next to my game all the time.

592
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: It's wicking that moisture away from arguably probably one of

593
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: the hottest regions of your body, your upper legs and

594
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: your crotch. UM. So I usually mix that in with

595
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: a men's wick hoodie which is our our basse layer.

596
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: I was talking about that a little bit. I've been

597
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: wearing that down in Texas. UM, that's a great piece.

598
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: I like the hood feature too, because that hood feature

599
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: allows you to conceal and also keep some sun off

600
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: your neck as well. UM and I can wear that

601
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: all the way through. With the base layer, it's not

602
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: it's not even uh temperature control as much as the

603
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: shade yea in some places, which I guess would end

604
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: up being temperature control, but in the wrong way. Usually

605
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: think of a hood is trying to keep you warm,

606
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: but man, sometimes glass and when it's seventy degrees you

607
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: just want to get away from the sun. And I'm

608
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: sure we're talking you know this. This base layer stuff

609
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: is some is a piece that I would wear, whether

610
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: it's you know, ninety degrees in Texas from my start

611
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: all the way to five degrees in Minnesota or whatever. UM,

612
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: and I would exchange certain pieces obviously with different temperature ranges.

613
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: We make some heavier duty have your weight UM long

614
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: sleep pieces to specifically the fuse and things like that.

615
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: The Men's fews crew. So I start, you know, with

616
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: the with the basic long Johns, the Men's Wick Long

617
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: Boxer brief and then the men's Wick Hoodie. UM. On

618
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: the pants side, we make this these pants called the

619
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: corey At Guide Pants, which I think are just bomber.

620
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: They're they're tough pants. They're they're four way stretch d

621
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: w R, which means they're a little bit water resistant.

622
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: It's kind of my go to. UM. However, we just

623
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 1: released a pair of pants called the Guide Light Pants,

624
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: which UM I wore down in Texas last two weeks ago. UM.

625
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: It's a really light but durable material and it almost

626
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: feels like you're not wearing pants at all. UM, But

627
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: they're tough, so they held up in that kind of

628
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: Mesquite country. Um. That's a great pair of pants as well.

629
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: So those are the two that I'll probably cycle through.

630
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: Um and then um, you know, as we as we

631
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: build our way through that stuff. And let me let

632
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: me say something about the Corean Guy pants. Yeah, the

633
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: U I don't want to well, okay, I'm gonna take

634
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: this into the third person here. Let's say that there

635
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: was a man and his wife had a pair of

636
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: yoga pants. Yeah, okay, you're with me, Like the stretchy

637
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: yoga pants that that are that women like, they're so comfortable.

638
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that anybody has ever any man

639
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: has ever put those on, but if they had, they

640
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: would recognize why women like to wear those so much,

641
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: because they're very comfortable. Yeah, basically I'll paralong underwear right long, right, right,

642
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: But but the stretchy material mainly what I'm talking about

643
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: is a stretchy, lightweight material that fits fairly close to skin. Okay,

644
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: to me, the core Guide pants are like hunting and

645
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to brand these wrong ways. They're comfortable.

646
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to say hunting yoga pants because we're

647
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: gonna all of a sudden, man cards strong enough that

648
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm okay with saying that. But no, they

649
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: they're just comfortable. What I'm saying, they're just very comfortable.

650
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: You don't you feel like you're not wearing a pant? Yeah,

651
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: And that's why I think those Corey Guide pants. They

652
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 1: satisfy so many different terrains elements parts of the country

653
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: as well. Um, it's a great pair of pants for sure.

654
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: A lot of guys like the cidity of Marino pants

655
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: for for all purposes. Um, and I think those are

656
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: great pair of pants too. So really the core lineup

657
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: that we've introduced is the Corey Guide pant and the

658
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: Marino wool pants. Um, we've got our guidelights, and then

659
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: the ones that I'm really excited about are called the Sawbucks.

660
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: So that's basically a core Gate Guide pant, but it's

661
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: got reinforced almost looks just like an upland pant. Would

662
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: we call this briar Bridges? Briar Bridges, that would be

663
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: that's a great name. Should have called you, should have

664
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: called you? I mean, that's that's what I I mean,

665
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: I would say would be a pretty common name in

666
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: the South for a pant like that. I mean, they've

667
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: got a briar quote unquote briar resistant front. It's different

668
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: than the back. I was crawling around and those things

669
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: in South Texas in this like Mesquite and this cat

670
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: Claud just nasty stuff and they held up real well.

671
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: So I'm stoked about those things. And they're actually doing

672
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: in Texas. Man, well here doing a lot of things.

673
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: But I was with Cable Smith and we're hunting nil guy,

674
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: which is crazy animal. Just be familiar with those things. Yeah, yeah,

675
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: the little horns, big African animal introduced into South Texas

676
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: crazy looking animals. Um, they're huge, Like when were you there?

677
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 1: I was there and with Cable in May, I believe,

678
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 1: And then I was just back in the hill country

679
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: hunting access here with a couple of dudes. So did

680
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: y'all kill a naga? Oh we did? Yeah, Cable didn't.

681
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 1: I hear there. It's really good meat, delicious, buddy, actually

682
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: coolby Colby moorehead the Bear Tech, as he's known, works

683
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: works for with me the Global Headquarters HQ. He he's

684
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: from Texas originally, and he wants to go on a

685
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: now Guy hunt because he he thinks it's a financial decision.

686
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: He thinks for the amount that you pay to go

687
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: on one of these hunts, that you get that much.

688
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: I see they meet and return. Yeah, I would agree.

689
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: It's delicious. I've been really fortunate. The last two animals

690
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: we we got to kill in Texas are both delicious

691
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: access here and Nil Guy. I mean, how big was

692
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: the Neil guy you killed? It was big, you know,

693
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: on the hoof. I don't know. They must be between

694
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: like five and six hundred pounds. They're a giant. It's

695
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: like a elk basically a little bit bigger than it

696
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: alk at times, and this is a good bowl. So

697
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: they must be upwards of you know, between five and

698
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: seven hundred pounds. I'd imagine big beasts. Yeah, I've never

699
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: seen I've never been around them, but I've familiar with them. Yeah,

700
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: they're crazy, but that was a good trip for sure.

701
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: So yeah, I guess on on the kits side, those

702
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: those pants out, they held up really well. Um those

703
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 1: will I'll be available now too. That's new for twenty nineteen.

704
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: The sawbucks are They've become my new go to pant

705
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: for just I'm not necessarily incorporated into well let's let

706
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: me think about that for a minute. That I wasn't

707
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: able to use them for some reason when I was

708
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: in Montana this spring. But I like the toughness of them.

709
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 1: You feel like you can work. I mean, sometimes hunting

710
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: trip is more than just about slipping through stocking an animal.

711
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: The whole backside of it is actual work. Like you're

712
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: moving stuff, you're you're getting dirty, you're you know, And

713
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: so I like that that sawbuck has that rough front

714
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: that you can just it feels more kind of like

715
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: a work pant, even though it's not. That's not a

716
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: good description of it. Yeah, but I think it trends

717
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: that way right, Whereas like the Guidelight is an ultra

718
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: light pant made for spot and stocking hot weather early season.

719
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: The Sawbuck, you know, you could you could stack wood

720
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: in those things, you could split wood, you could do

721
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: some work around your ranch, but you can also go

722
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: through the briars and your briar bitches. Yeah, that's awesome.

723
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: I love that name. Um. And then I guess the

724
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: next piece when we keep going up top right, um,

725
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: I usually I love the Klamath hoodie. It's a great piece.

726
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: It's a good fleece product, just really awesome. It's durable,

727
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: keeps me warm. Um. And then we just came out

728
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: with the Men's brook brooks Down sweater, which is ben phenomena.

729
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: I was wearing that this morning and um, it's a

730
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: super lightweight, puffy, puffy peace puffy jacket. Um fits in

731
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: like a water bottle, super tiny, but carry some great warmth.

732
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: I love that, um. And then you know, to round

733
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: it off, I really have been enjoying, like in the springtime,

734
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: especially before it gets the summer, that Sawtooth hybrid Jacket's

735
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: pretty awesome, kind of a lightweight. I think you've borrowed

736
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: that one a little bit too. Um. And then when

737
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: it gets super cold, when we're talking like and this

738
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: is one of the things we've sort of delved into,

739
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: I guess the last few years is is into our

740
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: our down jacket program. And um, the men's chamberling down

741
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: jacket is just absolutely proof. And I'm sure you probably

742
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: wore that bear hunting this this a little bit. No,

743
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: I took it up. There wasn't cold enough, you know.

744
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: I wore it like while I was traveling. I find

745
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 1: those jackets to be really comfortable. Oh man, It's it's

746
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: almost like you're wearing a sleeping bag. And while we

747
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: were traveling it was super cold going through South Dakota.

748
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: When South Dakota and and eastern Montana we're driving through,

749
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: like the snow and stuff like getting out to get

750
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: gas and check on the wheeles. I would slip that

751
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: on because the smooth I like that down stuff with

752
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: the with the smooth. I don't know what synthetic water

753
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 1: shell it is, but just you just put it on easy,

754
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: take it off easy. Yeah, just like that that Brooks

755
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: jack And I've got one of those two Brooks or Brooks.

756
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: I like those because They're just easy to put on off,

757
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: you know, extremely paccable too, you know, and they throw

758
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: them in the bottom of your pack. And the nice

759
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: part about that Chamberlain, it is bigger, it's very warm,

760
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 1: very but I wore it in Canada's where I put

761
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: it to the tests last year Manitoba on some all

762
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: day sits when when when noise wasn't an issue, I

763
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: was rifle muzloader hunting, so it wasn't like I was

764
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: trying to get within twenty yards because it is you know,

765
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: it's not made for to be quiet necessary. It's a

766
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: lasting jacket, right or col Weather that I truly love

767
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: that jacket. Yeah. It's got more down to than than

768
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: the than most of the jackets on the treated down. Yeah.

769
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 1: So the way that I understand it, like this one

770
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: is is truly the down jackets that eight hundred phil

771
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: power down. So it's it's coated for sure, so if

772
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: it gets wet, it doesn't come flatten. Yeah. And we're

773
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: coming off a great video on how that synthetic down works,

774
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: um and and that should be out pretty soon. But

775
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty pretty remarkable how that stuff can take

776
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: some water and still perform. Um yeah, it's an incredible

777
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: piece for sure. Yeah. Yeah, um, you know. And then

778
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 1: on the other thing too, is that I was gonna

779
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: mention really quick because we just have and just an

780
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: outstanding um lineup of of gloves this year. Um. Specifically,

781
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: there's these We've got those um down mittens that are

782
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: really cool. That is like sleeping bags for your hands

783
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: really and uh, those are great for just what do

784
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: they do they call those? Let's yeah, I think I

785
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: think we're calling them if I pull these up correctly, Um,

786
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: I think we're calling them the brooks Yeah, the brooks

787
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: down glassy mit. So they're great. What was it before,

788
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 1: the big like three fingers. Yeah, so we have those

789
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: are the grizzly triggerments and we re up we updated

790
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 1: those again this year. Um and those are sweet too.

791
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: Those are like extreme yeah yeah, there you go. So

792
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: they're right here. And see when I was in Ottaho

793
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: uh in tw it was like we would get on

794
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: snowmobiles in the morning. It would be like below freezing

795
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: zero and uh man, I wore those snowmobile because you

796
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: can actually punch a trigger. Yeah, it was they were perfect. Yeah,

797
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: that's a good piece. I've been pretty impressed with those.

798
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: I haven't actually worn them in super cold weather yet

799
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: I can tell they're going to be bomb proof. The

800
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: ones I have worn are those shale touch hybrid gloves, which, um,

801
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: they gotta reinforce knuckle patch. Those are great for crawling around,

802
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,959
Speaker 1: like if you're doing some dipping in dodging, there's they're

803
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: just a bomb proof glove of And then of course

804
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: just some updated Marino Marino gloves which incorporate sort of

805
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 1: the ability to touch your phone and sort of navigate

806
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: with your phone if you're using on Actually, so those

807
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: be really great too. You know what I find most

808
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: of the time when I'm hunting in Arkansas, with the

809
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: temperatures we have, even tree stand hunting, I don't like

810
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: to wear gloves. I would rather keep hands in pockets

811
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: and feel like I'm just nimble with my hands. That

812
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: being said, my go to glove most of the time

813
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: is those lightweight like Marino wool ultra thin. Yeah. What

814
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: do they call those? They call those the the touch

815
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: liner glove. Probably yeah, certainly not something you'd want to

816
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: you know, they don't they don't take a lot of wear.

817
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't want to like load firewood in

818
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: your truck with them. But they're just enough, just enough

819
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: warmth that they take the sting off the cold if

820
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: your hands are out or if your hands on a boat,

821
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: like you know, when you're a hunting a lot of

822
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: times you're holding your boat, one hand has to be

823
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: out of a pocket and so you're like rotating between

824
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: hands and it kind of takes this thing off, but

825
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: it feels like you're not wearing a glove. You're still

826
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: really have a lot of dexterity and come move around.

827
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: So I just find I go to those a lot.

828
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: I'm with you, and I never was a glove guy

829
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: myself either, but I've been wearing those, the fingerless Marino gloves,

830
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 1: and they're pretty awesome. That just cuts right off above

831
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: kind of I can say I don't have I don't

832
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: have those to get you down there, sweet. It's nice

833
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 1: to have just some feeling. I seem to like lose

834
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: feeling in my fingers pretty quickly when it's cold. But

835
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: these things help because they keep that warmth sort of

836
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: the core of your hand, and it's it's a great

837
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: piece for sure. Yeah, for sure. I think that's about

838
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: all for this for the for the new gear that

839
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: I wanted to highlight with you. So what about what

840
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: about the bibbs that are coming out? Yeah, so I'm

841
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: let me pull those up because they're they're really awesome.

842
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: Want to show you a picture. We've been trying on

843
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 1: some of that stuff now. But so you guys are

844
00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: producing some new white tail more White Tailed Trees stand

845
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: branded stuff, and last year it was some of the

846
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 1: catalysts stuff, which the catalyst would have been a soft shell,

847
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: so it would have been quiet for bow hunters. A

848
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: lot of the I mean, any white tail guy I

849
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: was just telling, uh, I was just telling some of

850
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: the guys earlier, Like I think that's the on the

851
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: forefront of most white tail tree stand bow hunters minds

852
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: is quietness. Yea, well, which is I think sometimes people

853
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: use the wrong stuff, like because the ultra light like

854
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: Western hunting stuff like you guys would have that would

855
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: have these synthetic shells, like it doesn't matter if that's

856
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 1: quiet or not. And to get that ultra light, you've

857
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: got to have this kind of stuff that's a little

858
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 1: bit louder correct And so I think sometimes people have

859
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: I've seen it, Kevin, where guys have bought like a

860
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: puffy jacket and wanted to bow hunt with it, you

861
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: know in Missouri and be like, oh man, that stuff

862
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: is loud. It's like it's wrong application exactly. Everything's got it.

863
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: There's a certain tool, right and every kid that makes

864
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: it work. And the nice part about the stuff we've

865
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: been doing in the white Tail world is we've addressed the,

866
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: like I mentioned before, the core components of how am

867
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: I going to stay in that tree longer? And how

868
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: because the buck of the lifetime might walk by one

869
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 1: thirty four pm and you you might be freezing. So

870
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: what we've tried to do is adjust our program to

871
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: to identify and try to solve those problems. And one

872
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: of the things that comes from that research is the

873
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: ability to stay quiet and stay out there longer. So

874
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: the system that we're coming out with now that should

875
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: launch pretty soon. It's gonna probably early August. It's called

876
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: the Men's Solitude Kit Solitude Yeah. And that Solitude Kit

877
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: is made with the same fabric, the brushed two layer fabric,

878
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: which is silent. I mean, you can swish your legs

879
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: together all you want, it's not gonna make a sound. Um.

880
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 1: What's really cool about this kit? Um, there's a few

881
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: things when it comes into You have a jacket and

882
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,439
Speaker 1: a and a in a bib um and it's got

883
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: this kit link system where you can basically get from

884
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: It's sort of hard to explain without seeing it, but

885
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: you can get from the external side of your jacket

886
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: into that bib front pocket, which is sweet for white

887
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: tail white tail guys because you can essentially utilize your

888
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: whole system without having to take a jacket off or

889
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: zip a pocket or whatever like that. So the idea

890
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: would be you could have a jet, well, you could

891
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: have bib bib overalls underneath you, and there's pockets on

892
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: the on the chest part of that bib that you're

893
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: gonna want to have important stuff inside of. And you

894
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 1: put this solitude jacket on. I just saw it this morning,

895
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: and you zip it all the way up. Historically you

896
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: would have had to zip it all the way down

897
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: to get back into the chest bib. But what you

898
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: guys have is these little zippers over here about mid rib,

899
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 1: Like if you're split from the chin to your navel,

900
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: it would be about yeah, halfway, you have zippers so

901
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: that you can get into that chest pocket. Yeah, and

902
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: that's it. We're just talking about like the worst thing

903
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: ever when you're in the tree is like kind of

904
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: bending over, you're looking around and something falls out of

905
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: your pocket because I'm not going to climb down and

906
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: get it. There's no way. So yeah, this is a

907
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: great way to be able to keep everything sort of

908
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: internal and also manage your heat too. So what happens

909
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: is with with a lot of this stuff is when

910
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: you open a pocket, you're releasing heat or letting you know,

911
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: hot air in or whatever. So this this is going

912
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: to allow you to sort of manage that. So the

913
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: zipper fits around your hand really nicely, and it's a

914
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: good system for sure, And I'm excited. I'm excited to

915
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: wear this in the tree this year. We're gonna try

916
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: this out. And it's a it's a it's a mid

917
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 1: level between. So for a couple of years, you guys

918
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: have had the Sanctuary stuff to white, which I would

919
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: describe as a very much so cold weather gear, which

920
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 1: is awesome. It really is that it's it's thick, heavy stuff,

921
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: But you're not gonna want to wear that unless it's

922
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: below thirty degrees. I would say, I think that's right

923
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: in there. And yeah, what the Solitude does is mesh

924
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: year early season, of year, late season, so the heart

925
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: of the rut in the Midwest anyways, you know, November

926
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: six then maybe so you can get some pretty variable temperatures.

927
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: The nice part about the solitude it could be warm,

928
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: it could be freezing. You can get twenty below um.

929
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,720
Speaker 1: So the nice part about the solitude is it allows

930
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: you to layer underneath and still be silent on the

931
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: top layer, which I think is probably in the scheme

932
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: of of trying to identify like what works the best

933
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: in the tree stand, you know, being quiet, staying warm,

934
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm staying out there longer. Three components that are pretty

935
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: essential because if it doesn't matter if you're uh, you know,

936
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: toasty warm all the way to like we said, one

937
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: thirty four pm and you draw back your bow and

938
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: it goes cook that buck of a lifetime skirts off

939
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 1: into the timber. It's like, well, glad I was warm,

940
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: but I wish I was cold and quiet. So he

941
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: was trying to address all those problems in one piece,

942
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: and I think we did a pretty good job. Let

943
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: me say something about that. The solitude bibbs, which I

944
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: saw him and put them on just this morning. I

945
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't expecting it was. So let me just describe so everybody,

946
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: we're all on the same page. Historically, a bib would

947
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: have had zippers from the ankles to the hip basically,

948
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 1: and so like if you're putting on it, like the Sanctuary,

949
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 1: you know you would so you could have you would

950
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: have clothes on and your boots on when you put

951
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: this bib over it, so you open it up as

952
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 1: wide as possible so that your boots don't get clogged

953
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: up and you kind of jump into them. Well, the

954
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: Solitude has zippers that it's got. It's got a double

955
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: zipper and I don't know the term. It's got a

956
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: it's got a zipper that goes basically from almost like

957
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: your armpit the highest part of the bib that goes

958
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: down and the zipper that also comes back up, and

959
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: so you can really open up the top of that

960
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: bib to easily get into them, right. I mean, that

961
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: was That was my favorite part of the That's great

962
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: to hear because I think that Ben and Greg spent

963
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: a lot of time working through that and and excuse me,

964
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: figuring that out. And I think the biggest the other

965
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: thing that we think about in the white tail world

966
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: is maximizing your time. Right, A lot of guys are

967
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 1: ripping out after work trying to get to the tree

968
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: or whatever it may be. Um So trying to ease

969
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 1: that you used to make it really compatible throughout. We

970
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: don't want to have to take your boots off to

971
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: put that on, because that's gonna be the last thing

972
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: you want to put on, like you're gonna you know,

973
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna be wearing. I mean, you just don't want

974
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: to put that on because it is insulation and you're

975
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: gonna be moving, like maybe even want to put it

976
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: on at the tree stand. That's what I do a

977
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: lot with my insulated bibbs, is I'll carry them to

978
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: the stand because I might have a little bit of

979
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: a walk and don't want to break a sweat, and man,

980
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: if you can not have to do like, you know,

981
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: a circus act getting into them. So I thought that

982
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: was really innovative to have the zippers on the top

983
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: of that bib. And I love bibbs. You heard me

984
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: with you. I like bibbs. I appreciate that. That's awesome. Well, yeah,

985
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: and those those pieces, like I said, will be available

986
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: probably early August or so. Wait none, but I think

987
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: that's gonna gonna do good. And all the all the

988
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 1: white tail pieces have the holes in the top upper

989
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 1: back for for safety straps to that's right through yep,

990
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: and that that's gonna be sort of a mainstay and

991
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: all the white tail stuff going forward just for that

992
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: safety element because we don't want anybody falling out of

993
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: a tree. So yeah, and it works great for for

994
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: all harness types. So yeah, you know, again, somebody who's

995
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: never heard anything about first light or or to me,

996
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 1: what when you put it on and you don't understand

997
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: this until you put it on, is the is the

998
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: shooters cut, which is like a typical jacket. And and

999
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: when I was growing up, my dad was always putting

1000
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: me in his old stuff. None of it ever fit,

1001
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: you know, and it was always real bulky and I

1002
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: could hardly shoot my bow out of it. So that

1003
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: would be like the worst case scenarios that you got

1004
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: this super bulky stuff that when you get the bow drawn,

1005
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: there's fabric sticking out in between the line of where

1006
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,479
Speaker 1: the bow is gonna drop, you know. So with all

1007
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: of these garments, first, like just the design of it,

1008
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: and I think this gets into like a high end,

1009
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: custom designed clothing like has a shooters cut, which means

1010
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: and I don't know the mechanics of it. I mean,

1011
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 1: there's gotta be mechanics, like there's more fabric here and

1012
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: less fabric here, But I don't know what it is.

1013
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 1: But I just know that it works. Like you have

1014
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: no restriction when you when you make the move to

1015
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: either draw a bow or shoulder or rifle. No, no restriction.

1016
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: You don't feel it, you know, and it's and when

1017
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: you draw back, everything is just in line with your

1018
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: body and not sticking out on on clothing that fits you.

1019
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously had something that didn't fit, you wouldn't

1020
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: do that. But that when I hand a jacket to

1021
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: a buddy mine that's never put it on, put on

1022
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: something for like that, I'm like, you're gonna notice the

1023
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: shooters cut. And then every time they go, wow, it doesn't.

1024
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: There's no there's no drag, there's no resistance when I

1025
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm doing my hand like I'm shooting a boat.

1026
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but yeah, I agree. And I think that

1027
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: the coolest part is, you know, the first and foremost first,

1028
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 1: I was founded by guys that hunt and I think

1029
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: that's the coolest part of it is, you know, they're

1030
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 1: actively involved in the development of each piece and that

1031
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: that's a perfect example, is a slenderness. That's even I

1032
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: think that's a word. But the sleeve sort of tapers

1033
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: so you don't have that bulk, you don't have that

1034
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 1: like um, sort of sinching up of material. Um. And uh. Yeah,

1035
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: they've they've done a great job of addressing problems that

1036
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: you know, have been found so to speak, um while hunting, right,

1037
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: trying to correct problems that they've experienced. That goes from

1038
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: western elk hunting to bear hunting in the BC to

1039
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: to um deer hunting in South Texas. Right, they're addressing

1040
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: all these issues through first and foremost the sort of

1041
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: the foundation of the company, and then all the people

1042
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: we work with two to gear test this stuff through

1043
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 1: and through. H Yeah, exactly. Well I think I'm I

1044
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 1: think I'm really gonna like the solitude stuff. I mean,

1045
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 1: this is a Barony Magazine podcast, but everybody knows white

1046
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: tail hunt and and most bear hunters are going to

1047
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: be white tail hunting, tree stand white tail hunting and

1048
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: U and so this is good stuff. You know, I

1049
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: think probably the biggest, the hardest thing maybe a barrier

1050
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: to entry if you could say from getting some of

1051
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: this stuff is just the cost of it and then

1052
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: not knowing the fit of it. And I hope that

1053
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 1: maybe even people listening to stuff like this, maybe it'll

1054
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: give them a little more insight, a little more confidence

1055
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 1: when they go and buy. What I usually tell people

1056
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: is a and I've had people directly directly asked me

1057
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: to say, Clay, if you were going to spend X

1058
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: number of dollars on First like here, what would you buy.

1059
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: My first answer is always bass layer stuff. Get that.

1060
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: Start start with start with the marino wool bass layers,

1061
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 1: start using that, utilizing that, and then from there you

1062
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 1: can go any direction of your needs from all the

1063
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: way from rain gear, I mean, we hadn't talked about stuff,

1064
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 1: you know, like the full scale like really breathable, good

1065
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: rain gear, all the way to the sanctuary, super thick,

1066
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 1: super cool weather true stand white to hunting stuff. But anyway,

1067
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: I just say, that's like the that's like the the gateway,

1068
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: the gateway piece. Certainly. Yeah, And I think the coolest

1069
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: part about well, one of the coolest parts about First

1070
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: Letter is our customer service team is die hard hunters.

1071
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: I mean, those guys are as soon as five oh

1072
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: one hits, they are out the door and in the

1073
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: hills testing our gear. They know our gear tip to tail.

1074
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: They can offer you the sort of the best rendition,

1075
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: so to speak of of real life anecdotal um information

1076
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 1: about how a piece performs for your specific area. And

1077
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: so those guys are really helpful and and figuring out,

1078
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: you know, what is the first piece I should get,

1079
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: what's the fourth piece I should get. I'm going on

1080
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: this hunt in the Northwest Territories. What what rain jackets

1081
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: should I take? Um? So those guys are around all

1082
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: the time. I'm ready to answer your questions, and I think, um,

1083
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: that's one of the coolest components of first Light as

1084
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: those guys are just dialed really and they're able to

1085
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: help those anybody out really Okay, Now, let's let's pretend

1086
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: like nobody at first Lights listening to this podcast, which

1087
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: maybe they won't. They probably I don't know, maybe they will,

1088
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: maybe they will, maybe they won't. If you could give

1089
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: a hot tip to somebody wanting to get in on

1090
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: some first light gear, like on some historic sales, because

1091
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: I've noticed some trends with first light of wind stuff

1092
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: goes on sale. What would you say, Oh, man, that's

1093
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: a good question. I think you should always peek around,

1094
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: like we just did a pretty big flash sale. Um,

1095
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: and that's what you're asking, like when it's a hot tip, man,

1096
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: I think just keep keep watching these flash sales where

1097
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: just randomly you'll put a percentage off. Yeah. Yeah, And

1098
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: I think the best thing to do is just keep

1099
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: keep track on social. You know, we're always like we

1100
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: do all these incredible giveaways to partnering with go Wild.

1101
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: Right now we're giving away a hunt with cables f

1102
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: and Jordan Bud, which is crazy. I mean that's just

1103
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: a really easy way to engage with First Light for sure. Um.

1104
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, I follow al on on social for those giveaways,

1105
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: and then um just fall along the on the individual

1106
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: folks too. You know, a bunch of people on Instagram

1107
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: and they'll they'll be breaking that down. You know. Then

1108
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: in what I'm alluding to it, I'm I'm joking. So

1109
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: you guys want people to know this stuff. I'm not.

1110
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: It's not like a secret, But don't you usually have

1111
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: like the new stuff is usually coming out in June, July, August.

1112
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: I mean like that's like when the like the new

1113
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: lines come out, so you have some of the older

1114
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: stuff and often goes on sale, Yeah for sure, and

1115
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: that's usually happening, like all the new stuffs out by

1116
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: August typically August. Yeah, so you've seen we've we just

1117
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: did our big flash sale. But it'll it'll come. You

1118
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: call it then, you call it something. It's just a

1119
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: summer flash sale, you know. Okay, maybe that's what I'm

1120
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: telling We did a bunch of like we have a

1121
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: bunch of new logo wear coming out and wearing on

1122
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: their right. Now, that's a good bunch of hats. Thanks

1123
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: um and uh yeah, so they'll be And like I said,

1124
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: I think the best way to get in on that

1125
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: info is like we'll we'll sort of sneak peek that

1126
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: stuff on on Instagram for sure. And and again going

1127
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: back to the idea that you just can't get away

1128
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: from it. I mean, the stuff's not cheap. You can

1129
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: go buy stuff at Hunting Gear at other places for cheaper.

1130
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: That's just that's just like with anything though, everything we do,

1131
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: there's always like higher and stuff that's better materials, it's more,

1132
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: it's better designed, that's gonna last longer. So it's like

1133
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: one of those things. But I find, you know, sometimes

1134
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: it's hard for people to to bite the bullet and

1135
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: try something. Um but if they could get in, you know,

1136
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: maybe may they get it and they say, yeah, I

1137
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: like that piece for sure. And I think I think

1138
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: one of the coolest parts too, is we we try

1139
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: really hard as a company to you know, be in

1140
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: the UH. We're obviously like making very expensive, high high

1141
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: apparel or high level apparel, um but it's still at

1142
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: a at a price point that I would say is

1143
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: a little less than the competitors out there. For sure,

1144
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: try to we try to in the arena. Anything I'll

1145
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: say too is like for folks that are on the

1146
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: guiding outfitters side, first responders, we offer great discounts for

1147
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: people for their service and for their their line of work.

1148
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: Um So I feel free to to hit us up

1149
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: if you're in if you're in those categories, and we

1150
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: want to try to respect those folks and and make

1151
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: their jobs easier for sure. So that's good stuff. That's

1152
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: good stuff, um Man. I think we've we've we are

1153
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: almost two our hour man. We've build nerd and out

1154
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: on the gear stuff. You know, Kevin, I I would

1155
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: historically have called myself such a minimalist that I didn't

1156
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: I don't like gear, if I could say it that way,

1157
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: like like gear to me is like a necessary evil,

1158
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: if I could put it that way, Because I do

1159
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: meet guys that just nerd out of and but I'm

1160
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: becoming more But I find that maybe like at some

1161
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: subconscious level, I identify with that. But I'm a serious

1162
00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:00,439
Speaker 1: hunter when I get into these places, I want gear.

1163
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: So I find that I'm having to be more conscious

1164
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: because of of of why I do what I do,

1165
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: if I could say it that way, And I'm finding

1166
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: that I'm more of a gear guy than I thought. Yeah,

1167
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 1: there you go. I appreciate that. And I think that

1168
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: there's all types of gear guys, right. You got like

1169
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: trinky guys that have every little thing from you know,

1170
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: super cool pocket knives all the way to like the

1171
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: latest head lamp. And there's people that get by with

1172
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: killing elk and flannels and jeans every year in Oregon.

1173
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: You know, there's a whole spectrum, right. But I think

1174
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 1: that for the amount of days guys like you spend

1175
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: in the field, and and for guys that really want

1176
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: to stay in that tree stand longer or whatever it

1177
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: may be. Uh, first lights of the way to go

1178
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: for sure. Well it's it's when you find that guy

1179
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: that really is just a minimalist and wanting to use

1180
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: the gear that helps him get the job done. And

1181
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: then but you that guy can really tell a pretty

1182
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: good story a lot of times, because I mean, I

1183
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: mean give you insight, because this is what I've learned.

1184
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: So I think sometimes people they enjoy gear so much

1185
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: that it becomes a big part of the of their

1186
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: hunting experience because they can't they're not in the field

1187
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: every day, but they're thinking about gear like I see

1188
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: people and uh, and and maybe I'm that way sometimes too.

1189
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: But but I'm becoming a lot more conscious about my

1190
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: gear because the older I get, the more I do

1191
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: have stronger opinions. The more I realized that, you know,

1192
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: there are kind of these nuances inside of gear that

1193
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: can really make a They can't make a difference inside

1194
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: of your success. Ultimately, that's what we're after is to

1195
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: be in the field and be successful. So if you

1196
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 1: can go further and stay longer, then uh, that's a

1197
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 1: good thing. It is a good thing. Yeah. Well, hey,

1198
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: closing closing thoughts anything you wanna. Yeah, it's exciting to

1199
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: be on here. Man, I'm excited what we have to do. Uh.

1200
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: And you know I've never killed a bear, right, We

1201
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: talked about this and you've killed an Oh no, So

1202
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: I think what we probably trade hunts. I'll take you

1203
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: all kind of you take me bear hunt. Let's do

1204
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: it deal, do it spring, spring, and then fall. It's

1205
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: a good idea. I like it. It's a good trade.

1206
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: That'd be a sweet trade. I'll take it. Appreciate I

1207
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: appreciate you having me on. Yeah, right on. Else we

1208
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: we always said the same thing at the end of

1209
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 1: the podcast. Keep the wild places wild because that's where

1210
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: the bears live. That's awesome, all right,