WEBVTT - 351. How gratitude changes your brain

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Psychology of Your Twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast where we talk through some of the big

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<v Speaker 1>life changes and transitions of our twenties and what they

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<v Speaker 1>mean for our psychology. Hello everybody, Welcome back to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the podcast. New listeners, old listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>Wherever you are in the world, it is so great

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<v Speaker 2>to have you here back for another episode as we

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<v Speaker 2>of course break down the psychology of our twenties. You

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<v Speaker 2>guys might not want me to say this, but like

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<v Speaker 2>it or not, we are coming closer to the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the year and also the holidays, Thanksgiving, Christmas, Hanuka,

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<v Speaker 2>New Year, and famously there is a huge emphasis on

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<v Speaker 2>reflecting on the year and showing gratitude for our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>So I thought, what better time than now to do

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<v Speaker 2>an episode on gratitude, which for some reason I have

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<v Speaker 2>never done before. I don't know exactly how I've missed it,

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<v Speaker 2>but today is the day. Also, before we get into it,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to let you know this episode is actually

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<v Speaker 2>also a video episode on YouTube. So if you prefer

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<v Speaker 2>watching episodes with video and getting to like see I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, see me speaking to you through a screen,

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<v Speaker 2>go and check that out. I'll leave a link in

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<v Speaker 2>the description, but let's get into it. Gratitude journals, gratitude challenges,

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<v Speaker 2>daily affirmations. You know, I even have a Daily Affirmations

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<v Speaker 2>for a weekly Affirmations podcast. It's everywhere. If you've ever

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<v Speaker 2>opened Instagram, which I'm assuming you have, you have probably

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<v Speaker 2>seen a post at some time, at some point about

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<v Speaker 2>manifesting abundance. If you've ever been to therapy, chances are

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<v Speaker 2>you have encountered a therapist that is encouraged gratitude. I

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<v Speaker 2>know I shall have. It is presented to us as

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<v Speaker 2>this most like magical cure, or be grateful and you

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<v Speaker 2>will be happy. People talk about gratitude like it is

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<v Speaker 2>this like magic pill, this magic way to be a

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<v Speaker 2>more happy, well rounded person. In some ways it is,

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<v Speaker 2>but that claim can feel a little bit too neat,

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit too like one dimensional. Can it really

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<v Speaker 2>fix everything? Probably not. Is it always that easy to

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<v Speaker 2>tap into? Definitely not. But today we're gonna talk about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna ask that big question, does gratitude actually

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<v Speaker 2>make us happier? And what forms all ways of expressing

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<v Speaker 2>gratitude are the most effective. We're gonna look at of course,

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<v Speaker 2>the psychology, do I even need to say that? Probably

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<v Speaker 2>not the neuroscience, and also importantly the limits of gratitude,

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<v Speaker 2>because yes, it is amazing, Yes it does fundamentally change

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<v Speaker 2>your brain. There's also a more nuanced side to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Toxic gratitude can elicit a lot of guilt and a

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<v Speaker 2>pressure to be thankful, and it can actually stop or

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<v Speaker 2>halt emotional processing. That needs to be part of the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>So I am excited to dive deep into this topic.

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<v Speaker 2>It has been a long time coming. Without further ado,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get into the psychology of gratitude. First things. First,

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<v Speaker 2>definition of gratitude. We need to kind of get that,

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<v Speaker 2>get that ironed out. This is actually, ironically kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a hard concept to get a clear definition on. One

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<v Speaker 2>of the best ways it's described and that I found

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<v Speaker 2>it described was actually in a twenty ten paper written

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<v Speaker 2>by researchers in Ohio who actually talked about how gratitude

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<v Speaker 2>is both a trait, so for example, some people just

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<v Speaker 2>naturally feel more grateful, and it's also an attitude or

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<v Speaker 2>an emotion. It's also something that we can elicit for

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves and kind of force into occurring. There are even

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<v Speaker 2>more definitions about this. Is gratitude also just like a

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<v Speaker 2>coping response? Is it a coping mechanism? Is gratitude like

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<v Speaker 2>a spiritual experience? Is it just something that like we

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<v Speaker 2>have to trip into to find Is it just something

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<v Speaker 2>that comes up spontaneously. A lot of people actually have

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<v Speaker 2>different thoughts about it. How I like to see it

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<v Speaker 2>and how this paper defined it. And gratitude in the

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<v Speaker 2>broader sense is an appreciation of what is valuable and

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<v Speaker 2>meaningful to oneself. Whether it is a trait, whether it

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<v Speaker 2>is forced, it's just an appreciation. To add to this,

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<v Speaker 2>Psychologist Robert Edmonds and Michael mcleough, they are like the

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<v Speaker 2>leading researchers on gratitude, and I like their definition as well.

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<v Speaker 2>They define it as a two step process, which is

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<v Speaker 2>recognizing that something good has happened and acknowledging that someone

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<v Speaker 2>else or something else beyond you had to play a

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<v Speaker 2>role in it. So the first definition is really like

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<v Speaker 2>it's just feeling like the world or something is beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>and being able to notice it. The second definition that

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<v Speaker 2>we're working with is that you're able to attribute it

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<v Speaker 2>to something. In other words, it's not just an experience,

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<v Speaker 2>it's also a feeling of being connected, but also supported

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<v Speaker 2>more broadly, whether it's by your family, whether it's by

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<v Speaker 2>the God you believe in, by the universe, by nature.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever it is is an appreciation for that outside force. Psychologically,

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<v Speaker 2>gratitude is seen. This is like mental superpower. Why is

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<v Speaker 2>that well, firstly because it promotes positive appraisal or positive reappraisal. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 2>why that's so powerful is because bad things are always

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen. Terrible, annoying things, frustrating things are always

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<v Speaker 2>going to occur. You can't change that. You can change

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<v Speaker 2>how your brain interprets these experiences. Instead of fixating on

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<v Speaker 2>what went wrong, gratitude allows you to retrain your mind

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<v Speaker 2>to notice what's still working. You might not know this,

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<v Speaker 2>but our brains are actually wired by default to have

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<v Speaker 2>a negativity bias, basically to see the worst in things,

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<v Speaker 2>to see the worst in people, to see the worst

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<v Speaker 2>in circumstances. This has actually been a good thing in

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<v Speaker 2>the past. It meant that we were more attuned to threats,

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<v Speaker 2>to danger, to the poisonous plants, the big saber toothed tigers.

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<v Speaker 2>But it also means that left unchecked, our minds are

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<v Speaker 2>naturally quite pessimistic. Gratitude, though, is the counterbalance to this

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<v Speaker 2>that allows us to kind of really just zoom out

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<v Speaker 2>and see the full picture, not just the negative or

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<v Speaker 2>shadowy parts. If we take a look at how this

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<v Speaker 2>works cognitively, there's a few processes that are involved here.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like people talk about gratitude all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>no one talks about what it's actually doing to your

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<v Speaker 2>brain inside the skull of ours. First, gratitude allows us

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<v Speaker 2>to direct our attention more conveniently or positively to things

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<v Speaker 2>that we actually want to see. You can't appreciate good

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<v Speaker 2>things if you don't look for them right and if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't direct yourself to notice them. Gratitude builds that skill.

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<v Speaker 2>The next is memory encoding. When we focus on positive

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<v Speaker 2>experiences and we repeat them through those common exercises of

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<v Speaker 2>a gratitude journal or reflection or speaking openly about them,

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<v Speaker 2>those memories get encoded more deeply, the same way that

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<v Speaker 2>when you study by writing and rehearsing and reflecting on

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<v Speaker 2>your knowledge. This is objectively better than just like reading

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<v Speaker 2>your note or listening to the lecture. Research that was

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<v Speaker 2>published in the Journal of Positive Psychology found that so

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<v Speaker 2>called grateful memories actually showed less fading over time even

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<v Speaker 2>compared to other positive memories. This has actually seen a

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<v Speaker 2>lot in dementia patients who can remember really beautiful memories

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<v Speaker 2>with their family when they were kids, when they were younger.

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<v Speaker 2>They're encoded almost in a separate way to other kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of memories, mainly because they are appraised as valuable. Because

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<v Speaker 2>they are so significant and they carry meaning, our brain

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<v Speaker 2>kind of locks them in like this sneaky safe that

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<v Speaker 2>it has at the back, meaning that when everything else

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<v Speaker 2>starts to fade and decay, they remain. There's also an

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<v Speaker 2>aspect of emotional regulation going on here. Gratitude activates the

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<v Speaker 2>prefrontal cortext. This is the part of the brain that

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<v Speaker 2>is responsible for emotional regulation. If you're going through a

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<v Speaker 2>really tough time and you're stressed and you're frustrated, what

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<v Speaker 2>gratitude actually does is allow this part of your brain

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<v Speaker 2>to I guess, work better by having a more rational

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<v Speaker 2>perspective and truthworth perspective on your circumstances. It allows you

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<v Speaker 2>to hold two truths at the same time. This moment

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<v Speaker 2>is hard, but it's not always going to be hard.

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<v Speaker 2>There is more than this that is an incredible ability

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<v Speaker 2>to have. Also, we have to talk about this from

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<v Speaker 2>a more social, less individualized standpoint. Gratitude has been proven

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<v Speaker 2>to increase pro social behavior and when practiced on an

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<v Speaker 2>individual level, to actually make a community and a society better. Kindness, empathy, generosity,

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<v Speaker 2>they all increase. When people have a higher level of

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<v Speaker 2>personal gratitude, we are more likely to act in favorable

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<v Speaker 2>ways to others and to be acting positively and strengthening

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<v Speaker 2>relationships when we feel like there is good in the

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<v Speaker 2>world and that other people possess good as well. So

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<v Speaker 2>gratitude is like incredible for society as well. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>something that really does like mend and heal fractured systems.

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<v Speaker 2>So what does this actually do to the brain, Like

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<v Speaker 2>neurologically that was like cognitively, what's happening like to our neurons,

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<v Speaker 2>to our synapses to yeah, to this big organ Well

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you using this twenty fifteen fMRI study

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<v Speaker 2>from these people at Indiana University. So in this study,

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<v Speaker 2>they basically asked participants to write down letters of gratitude

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<v Speaker 2>to people in their lives. They didn't have to send

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<v Speaker 2>the letters, they just had to write the letters. That

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<v Speaker 2>was enough to a grandmother, to an aunt, to an uncle,

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<v Speaker 2>or a brother, whoever. It was three months later when

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<v Speaker 2>those same participants were scanned in the fMRI machines, their

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<v Speaker 2>brains showed increased activity in the medial prefrontal cortex that's

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<v Speaker 2>the region involved in emotional regulation, in learning and decision making.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there was physical changes to how their brain was operating.

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<v Speaker 2>The researchers concluded that gratitude is it has a long

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<v Speaker 2>lasting neural footprint, and they saw that footprint, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>in trench deeper when people did this over and over

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<v Speaker 2>and over again. Essentially, this practice changed the brain's baseline

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<v Speaker 2>response to both positive and negative experiences. There was also

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<v Speaker 2>a further twenty fifteen study published in Frontiers in Psychology,

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<v Speaker 2>also using fMRI scanners, which basically induced gratitude and participants

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<v Speaker 2>and then scanned their brain at the time. Instead of

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<v Speaker 2>just giving these people like random gratitude prompts, instead of

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<v Speaker 2>asking them just to write letters of gratitude, they told

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<v Speaker 2>them stories that were really precious and beautiful. These stories

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<v Speaker 2>actually came from real Holocaust survivors who'd been helped by

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<v Speaker 2>strangers during the war, people who had risked their own

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<v Speaker 2>lives to offer food, to offer shelter, to offer protection,

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<v Speaker 2>and the participants were asked to imagine themselves as this

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<v Speaker 2>person being helped and being rescued, to picture that moment,

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<v Speaker 2>to feel what it would have been like to receive

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of of help when you were just like

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<v Speaker 2>so desperate. And as they did that, the scans showed

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<v Speaker 2>significant activation in a couple of areas, the ventral striatum

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<v Speaker 2>and the nucleus accumbents, both key parts of the brain's

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<v Speaker 2>reward system. Long names, all you need to know is

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<v Speaker 2>that these are the areas that are most active when

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<v Speaker 2>we experience pleasure, love, or deep connection, and that activity

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<v Speaker 2>increased even after the story was over. What's so beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>about this study is that it's that gratitude isn't just

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<v Speaker 2>like something that's nice. It's not just surface level. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like viscerally rewarding, like the reward is something that we

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<v Speaker 2>can literally see. And what's even more interesting was that

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't even have to perform gratitude themselves to have

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<v Speaker 2>this feeling. No one in this study actually received anything

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<v Speaker 2>like it was entirely empathetic. Just imagining the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>generosity was like enough to trigger the brain's reward circuits.

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<v Speaker 2>When people say gratitude changes your brain, this is what

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<v Speaker 2>they're talking about. This is what they are referring to.

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<v Speaker 2>There is hard science behind why it's recommended. But and

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<v Speaker 2>this is equally an important thing to remember only under

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<v Speaker 2>the right conditions. Gratitude isn't something that we can actually

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<v Speaker 2>always access, and it might not actually always be helpful.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it can backfire. Sometimes it can leave us feeling

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<v Speaker 2>worse than before. And that's like a part of the

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<v Speaker 2>conversation that I don't think people really want to have

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<v Speaker 2>all the time, but we are going to have it today.

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<v Speaker 2>How could gratitude possibly be bad for us? We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to answer that question after this shortbreak. So here's where

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<v Speaker 2>it gets a little bit tricky. Gratitude when it's real

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<v Speaker 2>and when it's self motivated, is really fantastic. When it

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<v Speaker 2>bubbles up naturally, it's even more fantastic. You know, we

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<v Speaker 2>will have those moments where we're just like, Wow, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so lucky to be here, this is such a beautiful day.

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<v Speaker 2>You go searching for that feeling, you feel incredible, you

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<v Speaker 2>feel like like there's a lightness to you. The moment

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<v Speaker 2>that gratitude becomes something we're told to feel or something

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<v Speaker 2>that we owe because of our circum stances, it shifts

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<v Speaker 2>from being an emotion to being a performance, and it

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<v Speaker 2>stops being a resource that helps us and starts essentially

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<v Speaker 2>becoming a tool for emotional suppression. This is where we

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<v Speaker 2>veer into what we call toxic gratitude. This is an

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<v Speaker 2>offshoot of toxic positivity. This is when we start to

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<v Speaker 2>use it to bypass uncomfortable emotions, and what ends up

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<v Speaker 2>happening is that we actually don't honor them, and we

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<v Speaker 2>don't actually process why they happen in the first place

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<v Speaker 2>and why that just has like deeply impacted us. You

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<v Speaker 2>might have heard this yourself. You definitely have. It's very

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<v Speaker 2>silent sometimes, like the use of gratitude to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>silence emotions that people don't want to look at is

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes invisible. But it sounds like, oh, could have been worse.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like, at least I have a roof over

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<v Speaker 2>my head. It sounds like, you know, there's someone out

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<v Speaker 2>there who has it harder than me, so I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>gonna shut up about it. And the thing is those

0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:10.200
<v Speaker 2>statements are totally true. Yeah, someone does have it worse

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<v Speaker 2>than you, Like people do have it harder than you.

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<v Speaker 2>Having that kind of awareness and perspective is important. It

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<v Speaker 2>also doesn't undercut the fact that if something is painful

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<v Speaker 2>and sucky for you, it's still painful and sucky for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Like how I like to I always say this to

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<v Speaker 2>my friends, and I always say this to myself. Someone

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<v Speaker 2>with a broken arm, it's still gonna like their arm

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<v Speaker 2>still hurts, whether or not someone else has a broken spine,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's entirely separate. They are still feeling all that

0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:48.600
<v Speaker 2>pain and themselves like someone else's suffering, doesn't like undercut it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not only a certain amount of suffering that can

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<v Speaker 2>go around. We cannot have this idea that if your

0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:59.800
<v Speaker 2>suffering isn't the absolute worst kind, you do not deserve

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<v Speaker 2>to feel it. And sometimes the use of gratitude as

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<v Speaker 2>a solution to these feelings is a way that we

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<v Speaker 2>actually make people believe that. This is podcast that I

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<v Speaker 2>love called Live Happy Now. Big fan, big fan of

0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.280
<v Speaker 2>that podcast, And I was listening to an episode that

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<v Speaker 2>they did with Whitney Goodman talking about the impact of

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<v Speaker 2>toxic positivity, and what she said was that toxic positivity

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<v Speaker 2>denies an emotion, It denies a feeling, which is actually

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<v Speaker 2>just as bad as what that feeling might be listening

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<v Speaker 2>in the first place. When we use toxic positivity, we're

0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:42.560
<v Speaker 2>basically telling ourselves like, this emotion shouldn't exist, it's wrong.

0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:44.760
<v Speaker 2>And so not only are we feeling the feeling, we're

0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:48.919
<v Speaker 2>also feeling shame about the feeling. And it's obviously impossible

0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:52.720
<v Speaker 2>to ignore it anyways, because we know it does exist.

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<v Speaker 2>Otherwise we wouldn't be feeling it right now, and so

0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:59.840
<v Speaker 2>the whole situation becomes a lot more confusing. Refusing in

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<v Speaker 2>a motion or not feeling it doesn't make you more healed,

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<v Speaker 2>because it actually means that the battle between you and

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<v Speaker 2>that emotion is probably more of a vicious daily thing

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<v Speaker 2>than if you processed it appropriately in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>If you actually let yourself just not be grateful for

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<v Speaker 2>a little while, if you just let yourself be like,

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<v Speaker 2>this just really really sucks, and I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be grateful for my situation. I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>grateful for what else I have. I don't necessarily want

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<v Speaker 2>to be resilient right now. I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>the bigger person. I just want to have some self

0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:44.560
<v Speaker 2>pity that's actually and you may not think that I

0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:50.399
<v Speaker 2>would say this honestly totally fine. Gratitude just sometimes doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>feel accessible to you, and trying to force it to

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<v Speaker 2>be actually creates this really weird paradox where the more

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<v Speaker 2>when you try, the harder and more elusive it becomes.

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<v Speaker 2>Gratitude requires a certain baseline level of safety. It requires

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<v Speaker 2>the belief that even subconsciously, you know you're okay to relax,

0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:17.240
<v Speaker 2>like you're okay to take in what's around you. When

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<v Speaker 2>your nervous system is dysregulated, when it's stuck in fight, flight, freeze,

0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:25.320
<v Speaker 2>or fawn, your brain is all focused on living through

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<v Speaker 2>and getting through this experience. So it's not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be scanning your surroundings for beauty or blessings. It's scanning

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<v Speaker 2>for threats and threats only. It is not a choice

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<v Speaker 2>in that moment to be ungrateful. It is actually just

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<v Speaker 2>plain inaccessible. When we don't feel safe, the part of

0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:47.600
<v Speaker 2>us that connects us, that feels joy, that expresses appreciation,

0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:52.159
<v Speaker 2>it just goes offline. Because from an evolutionary perspective, again,

0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:57.760
<v Speaker 2>it's not immediately necessary for how survival. The body can't

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<v Speaker 2>access gratitude if it does, don't believe the world is

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<v Speaker 2>safe enough to let its guard down, and yet that's

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<v Speaker 2>often when again people double down. I saw another article

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<v Speaker 2>from the psychologist Susan David where she talks about this

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<v Speaker 2>cultural obsession with like good vibes and how that actually

0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:20.520
<v Speaker 2>creates more emotional fragility. When we're not allowed to name pain,

0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:24.080
<v Speaker 2>we can't process it, and unprocessed pain doesn't magically vanish

0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:27.879
<v Speaker 2>the same way that energy doesn't magically vanish. It just

0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:32.880
<v Speaker 2>hides behind all the gratitude bandages until like that defense

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<v Speaker 2>mechanism doesn't work anymore. And look, I'm not saying that

0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:40.600
<v Speaker 2>gratitude is bad. It's just that, like it can't be

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<v Speaker 2>forced from a place of fear or from a place

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<v Speaker 2>of shame. It can't be forced from a place of

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<v Speaker 2>I should of shouldz. Maybe that's the best way to

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<v Speaker 2>say it. Sometimes, like the kindest thing you can do

0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:59.840
<v Speaker 2>to yourself is and do for yourself is just be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just really sucks. So I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>some alternatives. I feel like I've been blabbing on about

0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:09.800
<v Speaker 2>that for a while. When gratitude is inaccessible, what else

0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:12.240
<v Speaker 2>is there? Because we do actually need some kind of

0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:16.920
<v Speaker 2>thing to hold on to what might that be if

0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:21.320
<v Speaker 2>gratitude feels too heavy. One of these recommendations that I

0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:26.160
<v Speaker 2>heard from someone was to just look for niceness instead.

0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Looking for something nice feels a lot more neutral, feels

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<v Speaker 2>way less intimidating than being like, you have to find

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<v Speaker 2>something that you are grateful for one absolutely, just look

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<v Speaker 2>for one small thing each day that's like you just

0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:45.160
<v Speaker 2>think is cool, or you just think is beautiful. You're

0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:47.960
<v Speaker 2>not necessarily grateful for it, but you know, it was

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<v Speaker 2>really nice that the pavement smelt really beautiful after it

0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:55.320
<v Speaker 2>rained today. It was really nice that, like you saw

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<v Speaker 2>that childholding that flower on the bus. I'm not necessarily

0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:03.560
<v Speaker 2>grateful for it, but it was enjoyable. It was nice

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<v Speaker 2>to see that. When we lessen the pressure to feel

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<v Speaker 2>this like huge expansive feeling and this expansive like impact

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<v Speaker 2>of some outside force on our lives, we can start

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<v Speaker 2>to just welcome in a few more moments of just

0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:24.680
<v Speaker 2>like joy and pleasure and contentment throughout our day. The

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<v Speaker 2>next thing to do if you're finding it hard to

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<v Speaker 2>be grateful for what you have and for your life

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<v Speaker 2>is just to do something completely new. Sometimes, and especially

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<v Speaker 2>when life feels hard, we find it difficult to access

0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:41.720
<v Speaker 2>gratitude because everything feels the same. Then like you ad

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<v Speaker 2>a layer of like this just I'm just feeling crap

0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:47.440
<v Speaker 2>onto that, like it just gets even worse. So pursue

0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:50.760
<v Speaker 2>novelty over gratitude. Go to a new part of your

0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:52.560
<v Speaker 2>city for the day. Make like a bucket list for

0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:56.000
<v Speaker 2>where you live. Just wander around. Studying at the public

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<v Speaker 2>library instead of studying at home. Maybe change up your

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<v Speaker 2>weekly routine if you can, like start cooking new meals

0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:06.040
<v Speaker 2>in the evening. Choose like an elaborate dessert recipe and

0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:09.360
<v Speaker 2>commit to making it. Do something on Friday night that's

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<v Speaker 2>not drinking. Go and like explore, or go to your

0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:16.199
<v Speaker 2>local bouldering gym, go to like I don't know what

0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:20.920
<v Speaker 2>painting class, Just like do something else. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>me and my friends did the other day. We were

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<v Speaker 2>having this conversation of like I'm so sick of like

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<v Speaker 2>going out drinking on like a Saturday or Friday night,

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<v Speaker 2>and like everything in the city feels the same. So

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<v Speaker 2>we went to a trampoline park like the one you

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<v Speaker 2>used to go to when you were twelve years old,

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<v Speaker 2>and like someone would always end up like breaking something,

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<v Speaker 2>or like ripping their jeans and it was the best

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<v Speaker 2>night ever. Having novel experiences has been evidenced time and

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<v Speaker 2>time again to be essential for adaptability and for your

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<v Speaker 2>overwhel well being. Like people actually cannot thrive in situations

0:23:56.359 --> 0:24:01.720
<v Speaker 2>that are completely and constantly the same. They need new stimulus.

0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:04.840
<v Speaker 2>So if you're not feeling grateful, that might be a solution.

0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:09.159
<v Speaker 2>Another way to experience like newness is to put yourself

0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:13.520
<v Speaker 2>in someone else's shoes and to you know, create gratitude

0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:16.240
<v Speaker 2>for somebody else if you can't experience it for yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Volunteering acts of kindness, those kinds of things are deeply powerful.

0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:25.159
<v Speaker 2>Try and do like one kind thing a day for

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<v Speaker 2>the next two weeks. Not only does this give you

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<v Speaker 2>a sense of purpose, like I'm changing somebody else's life,

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<v Speaker 2>even if they don't notice it, it also allows others

0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:37.040
<v Speaker 2>to be grateful for you, and that can create feedback

0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:41.760
<v Speaker 2>for modeling gratitude in general. When you're finding it really

0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 2>hard to access it, maybe you just need to create

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<v Speaker 2>more of it for other people and it will come

0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:50.359
<v Speaker 2>back to you in time. Similar to like, both of

0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:55.560
<v Speaker 2>these like is just being curious novelty Curiosity somewhat similar,

0:24:55.760 --> 0:25:00.280
<v Speaker 2>but it just keeps the mind open when I can't

0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:06.760
<v Speaker 2>necessarily access these absolute positive emotions. Just try and explore,

0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Just try and be interested in life, Try and find

0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:13.640
<v Speaker 2>new things that you can learn about, and then see

0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 2>if gratitude comes some questions. You might also want to

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:20.479
<v Speaker 2>ask yourself to prompt this in your own life. Is like,

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm looking at an experience, I might see it

0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:28.520
<v Speaker 2>as only good or only bad. What is the gray area?

0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:32.399
<v Speaker 2>What actually might this experience be teaching me that I

0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:34.080
<v Speaker 2>don't have to be grateful for, but I don't have

0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:37.639
<v Speaker 2>to be terrified of either? What might this be preparing

0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:40.119
<v Speaker 2>me for? Or you know, if this was like a

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<v Speaker 2>chapter of my life in a movie or a book

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<v Speaker 2>and I was someone watching from the outside looking in,

0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:51.160
<v Speaker 2>what's the purpose of this moment? Can I see where

0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:53.760
<v Speaker 2>this is guiding me to in the future? What should

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:57.760
<v Speaker 2>my character do next? Instead of seeing things in like absolutes,

0:25:57.840 --> 0:26:00.639
<v Speaker 2>this is only good, this is only bad. Yeah, Like

0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:03.159
<v Speaker 2>there's zones us in on, like what's in the middle,

0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:05.960
<v Speaker 2>what's like the meat of the situation? What it'm meant

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:06.680
<v Speaker 2>to be learning?

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<v Speaker 1>And this like isn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Supposed to be invalidating or it's not supposed to romanticize

0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 2>your pain. It just encourages you just just like stay

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 2>engaged with like the nuances of life. And except that,

0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:22.880
<v Speaker 2>like just because something doesn't make sense yet doesn't mean

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 2>that it won't down the line. Like it's an acknowledgment that,

0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:28.680
<v Speaker 2>especially if you're in your twenties, like you're still learning,

0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:32.720
<v Speaker 2>you're still growing and adapting through life. This might be

0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:35.000
<v Speaker 2>the worst thing that's ever happened to you now, but

0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:37.879
<v Speaker 2>life will get bigger and like be able to hold

0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:42.639
<v Speaker 2>more space for new and better things. I think the

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:47.840
<v Speaker 2>biggest takeaway from today is that gratitude is like fabulous.

0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:51.240
<v Speaker 2>It's like I honestly think it's like a human gift.

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 2>It's a miracle in many ways that we can like

0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:58.440
<v Speaker 2>appreciate things so deeply that the only thing we can

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:02.240
<v Speaker 2>do is say that some otherworldly thing must be responsible

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:05.479
<v Speaker 2>for it. It's so beautiful that we can see beauty,

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:09.199
<v Speaker 2>and just like it's honestly an indescribable emotion. Like I

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:13.400
<v Speaker 2>imagine trying to just describe like gratitude to an alien

0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 2>and I just like feel like they probably wouldn't understand it.

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:21.880
<v Speaker 2>That doesn't mean that it's a moral test. You don't

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 2>have to be relentlessly positive. You don't have to be

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 2>grateful all the time just because it's a beautiful feeling.

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:29.960
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to pretend everything's fine. I think it's

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 2>just important to know that, like you're allowed to have

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:37.640
<v Speaker 2>a diversity of emotions. But if you can access gratitude,

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 2>it's not going to be a quick fix. It's not

0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:42.479
<v Speaker 2>going to be some vitamin, but it is something that

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 2>you can like come back to that might make life

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 2>just feel a little bit better. That might be able

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:51.920
<v Speaker 2>to like hold your hand through grief and through exhaustion

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 2>and through hard times and just give you, like it's

0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:58.479
<v Speaker 2>like a nice place to like go and lay your

0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:01.920
<v Speaker 2>head down when like everything else in world feels really terrible.

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:05.359
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't mean you like am morally obligated to feel it

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 2>all the time. It's just like a superpower, and it's

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 2>this brilliant thing that we're very lucky to have when

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 2>we really need it. So thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 2>listening to this episode. If you have made it this far,

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<v Speaker 2>what's something you're grateful for? Please leave a comment below,

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<v Speaker 2>Share why that makes you feel grateful. Share Yeah, whether

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 2>it's a person, whether it's a pet, whether it's like

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:31.440
<v Speaker 2>a movie, a TV show, like the best chocolate cake

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:33.400
<v Speaker 2>you've ever had. I want to hear it. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to know. Something I'm grateful for right now is air conditioner.

0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 2>It's like, genuinely like forty degrees in Sydney right now.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're like, I don't know, if you're you do

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<v Speaker 2>Fara and eight, it's like over one hundred degrees. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so grateful for air condition I'm so grateful for

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:55.280
<v Speaker 2>the people who discovered how to make air colds. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's my little that's my little touchdoone for the day.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go to pet thinking, God, that's nice. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you listening. Thank you again to our research

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