1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson. 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: This is the Drive Steelers Nation Radio and Matt. I 6 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: don't know if you noticed this one, but NFL dot 7 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: Com has been breaking down division by division kind of 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 2: like what we did the other day. Positions and yeah, okay, 9 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: but one of the things that they did here is 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: they have some little notes about the roster, so I 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: thought we'd go over there for the AFC North. Some 12 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: of these concerns are things that we've raised and some 13 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: of the things that I hadn't thought of. So anyways, 14 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: for looking at the Baltimore Ravens, they have their starting 15 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:56,959 Speaker 2: presumed starters there. Okay, first first note here, Josh Johnson 16 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: turns thirty eight years old this week. You'll be knowing 17 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: the season. Is the unquestioned number two quarterback for the 18 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: first time now that Tyler Huntley has gone in for 19 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: the AFC's number one seed from a year ago. 20 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 3: Supposedly a great like maybe a future coach, you know, 21 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 3: like well loved, he's been on nine thousand different teams 22 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 3: in every league, imaginable, and I think he's still worth 23 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 3: hanging on to. But that would worry me. I think 24 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 3: they drafted Leary out of Kentucky, which fine. I would 25 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: have been real critical if they didn't at least use 26 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 3: like a fifth round pick on a guy for maybe 27 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 3: to be the future. Josh Johnson, but that's kind of 28 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 3: what you have to do in some regards when you 29 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 3: was that expensive of a quarterback. I mean, like what 30 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 3: the Browns is doing is bonkers with quarterback contracts, but 31 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: that's because they don't trust their guy, or the Ravens do. 32 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 3: That would worry me. And I didn't love Huntley, but 33 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 3: out of more faith to get Huntley through a month 34 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: of Lamar less football than I would Josh Johnson at 35 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 3: thirty nine years old. 36 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. I mean, especially with Lamar's history, 37 00:01:59,200 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: the less future. 38 00:01:59,840 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: Sure. 39 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: Sure by the way he's he bulked back up or 40 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: he dropped the weight again this year. 41 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: He put on weight. 42 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: Going into last year, didn't run nearly as much. Right 43 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: now he's dropping the weight again. Is it's a signal 44 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: that he wants to run more this season? 45 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: It would take it that way. Yeah, at first I've 46 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 3: heard that, but you won the MVP with the weight on. 47 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe it wasn't as comfortable as he 48 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: wanted to be, but that's weird. 49 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: Uh. The second note here, Derreck Henry grew accustomed to 50 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: running behind shaky offensive lines in Tennessee. The Ravens have 51 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: a far better history of coaching their guys up, but 52 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: this group has major questions. The right tackle and starting 53 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: guard spots are up for grabs. Former Cardinals and Texans 54 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: lineman Josh Jones is an interesting reserve to watch. He's 55 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: talking about that. 56 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, he'll helped somewhere probably. He's kind of six guy. 57 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: Second round pick Roger Rosengarten could start from day one. 58 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 3: He could, but we've talked about it a lot. That 59 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 3: which not how we saw him as a draft pick. 60 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 3: And then we didn't care in Pitsburg. 61 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: Think if they're starting Josh Jones and Roger Rosengarten, they're 62 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 2: not a great line. No. 63 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 3: I mean, what I took away from that sentence is 64 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 3: there's three jobs up for grabs, and that doesn't include Stanley, 65 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: who's not himself, right, you know, to me, Linderbaum's the 66 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 3: only guy. 67 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: Stanley hasn't played well since like twenty. 68 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 3: Twenty, since the day after he signed that contract. He 69 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: got hurt against the Steelers. I mean, he's one of 70 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 3: the rare exceptions that they would sub him in and 71 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: out of games last year. I mean that was the 72 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 3: end of the year last year. I mean, it's a 73 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: chronic ankle thing. 74 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: And he's he's over thirty now. 75 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean if he can get back 76 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: to where he was, I'd go a long way. But 77 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: I kind of feel like there's four uncertain spots on 78 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: that line. Yeah, and a couple of them work themselves out. 79 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: But the Ravens full throated support of Rashad Bateman all 80 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: offseason and words, actions and in action, spoke volumes. They're 81 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: counting on him. Okay, they gave him a contract. They 82 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: didn't go out and get somebody else. 83 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're counting on Rashaw bait let Odell go. They 84 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 3: didn't draft one high. They did draft what the NC kid. 85 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: But yeah, he's a third at best. I mean he's 86 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: probably a four considering what they've invested in him. My 87 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: hunch is to try to be as impartial as possible, 88 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: is if Bateman would have been drafted by the Steelers, 89 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 3: and we watched them practice after practice, and he had 90 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 3: exact same production as he had at this point. We'd 91 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: have faith in him too, you know what I mean, 92 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: Like some of it has not been his fault. I 93 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 3: never saw him as like a number one, even though 94 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: he's a first round pick, and I don't think they 95 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 3: really have a one. That's kind of Andrew's situation. But 96 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: I think you'd have said, if you were the Ravens, 97 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 3: he just didn't pick up the fifth year option and 98 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 3: let him walk. Yeah, you know what I mean, he's 99 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 3: good enough to still invest in. I guess. 100 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 2: As a way to put it, Isaiah likely is listed 101 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 2: as a starter above because he met as more to 102 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: this offense than slot receiver Nelson Aguilar or rookie Devantees Walker. 103 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: Expect a lot of two tight end sets. 104 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 3: Maybe get cut and paste that for the Steelers. Yeah, 105 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: I mean, by the way the all season's gone. 106 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 2: If first round cornerback Nate Wiggins is ready in time, 107 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: he could start on the outside with Marlon Humphrey movie 108 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: to the slot. Wiggins doesn't bring the physicality that Ravens 109 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: corners are known for. 110 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: Said that over and over, Man Rosen Garden just by 111 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 3: Ravens standards are finessier than you say. 112 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, injuries crushed his secondary last year. If 113 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: they could stay healthy in Wiggins or TJ Tampa at 114 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: anything as rookies, it can turn into a strength. 115 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: I agree with that too. 116 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, the safeties are good. 117 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 3: I think Hamilton's awesome and Williams is good. They did 118 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 3: lose Genostone, who was a big political guy. They played 119 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 3: a lot. The three safeties played a lot for them, 120 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 3: but their corners do look like a strength. Now. 121 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: No team is more likely to find quality snaps from 122 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: free agents still on the market. The Ravens could add 123 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 2: help at edge, rusher, guard and receiver. Well good luck. 124 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure what out there in the receiver 125 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: world is yea all that enticing, but they do have 126 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 3: a history of this time of year finding adult and 127 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 3: riisinger or something like that, you know. Okay. 128 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 2: Finally, the Ravens are one of the few teams that 129 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: look worse on paper after the off season. We've talked 130 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 2: about that a lot. Losing defensive coordinator Mike McDonald also hurts. 131 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 2: Then again, John Harbor, Eric to Costa and Lamar Jackson 132 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 2: usually have a way of making roster holes look better 133 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: once it's time to shoot up. 134 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 3: Okay, I love that. 135 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: I try the cost that gets a lot of credit 136 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: the stuff that Ozzie Smith didn't. 137 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think Harbaugh has a lot of weight 138 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 3: there too, obviously, and the Cost that might be the 139 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 3: nicest guy in the world, you know, just pick it 140 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 3: on to the raven But the Ravens in general work 141 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: the media quite well. 142 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 2: They get the benefit of the doubt in any move 143 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: that they make like that. 144 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 3: But so I was asked on my podcast today. It 145 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 3: was something like, hey, Matt, do you still agree that Baltimore, 146 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 3: Kansas City, Detroit, and San Fran the final fourteen? You know, 147 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: are they still the leaders in the clubhouse for the 148 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 3: Super Bowl next year? And I said yes, But I 149 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: also said those three teams other than Baltimore didn't get 150 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: worse in my opinion where Baltimore did. 151 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: You know, Schedules like, I won't pick the Ravens win 152 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: the division this year. I'll pick the Ill probably end 153 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 2: up picking the Bengals because they play the easiest. 154 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 3: Scheduling is distinctly easier. I am interested to see them all, 155 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 3: like how it minds up? You know? Tonight but yeah, interesting. 156 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: Let's move on to those Bengals and the notes on them. 157 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: The Bengals offense profiles deep everywhere except wide receiver, which 158 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: is quite a change. Then again, third round receiver Jermaine 159 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: Burton is probably more talented than Tyler Boyd, who departed 160 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: in free agency, but it's asking a lot of a 161 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: middle round pick with an inconsistent college career to take 162 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: that role. So incumbents Trent Irwin and Andrea Sivus have 163 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: a shot too. 164 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 3: I think that's well said, you know, like Burton's super talented, 165 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 3: but he's not the most trustworthy fellow in the world, 166 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: and he's a third round pick rookie and for a reason, 167 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 3: for a reason, right, And you mentioned too, like if 168 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: Higgins has a tammy is he can be super eager 169 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: to run out there in Week ten, as he would have, 170 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: you know, with a contract. And unlike the Ravens and 171 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 3: probably unlike the Steelers, they're eleven eleven eleven personnel all 172 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 3: the time. 173 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, they need four, you know, even if this does 174 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: turn out to be t Higgins season in Cincinnati. I 175 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: liked the decision to attempt to squeeze one more great 176 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: year year out of him and Jamoar Chase together. They 177 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 2: compliment each other so well. 178 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: I can't fault them for not dealing Higgins. Yeah yeah, 179 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 3: I mean they're trying to win the Super Bowl. You 180 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: probably would have got like a second round pick for 181 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 3: him and would have drafted Jalen Polk or somebody like that. 182 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: And you're better doing this. I mean in terms of 183 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 3: trying to win the toughest division in the league. 184 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: Chase Brown showed enough late last season to believe that 185 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: he'll be a great partner with Zach Moss. They can 186 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: both excel in the screen game. It's a better something 187 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: what we saw with the Bengals a year ago. Brown 188 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: is developing and Moss replaces Joe Mixon. 189 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 3: I agree. I mean, their running back room is not 190 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 3: going to be great, But I think if I was 191 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: team building the Bengals this year, I would have taken 192 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 3: a similar approach. I don't think I would have used 193 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 3: a second round pick Entrey Benson or given Josh Jacobs 194 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 3: big money or something like that. I'm fine with this 195 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 3: and invest in some big boys up front. 196 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: Jake Browning earned a multi year contract as Joe Burrow's 197 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: back up after performing so well late last season the Bengals. 198 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 2: They just won't need Browning so much, no kidding. The 199 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: Bengals have incrementally improved their offensive line in the Borough era, 200 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,479 Speaker 2: going from dreadful to average. 201 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 3: Yeah that was malpractice what they threw them behind it earlier. 202 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: This year they have a chance to be good with 203 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: solid continuity on the interior and the boomer Bus talent 204 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: of a tackle and starter Trenton Brown or Trent Brown 205 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: in first round pick Marius Mims. 206 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 3: I can't really fight any of that stuff. I mean, 207 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 3: I think they found a long term backup quarterback that 208 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 3: is still young. It's kind of the perfect guy for 209 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 3: Burrow's never going to challenge him, but he can get 210 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 3: you out of situations or get you through a month 211 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 3: or whatever. 212 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. 213 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 3: The line's pretty good. Yeah, I mean it's huge and 214 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 3: there's some volatility there, but they're inside trios solid. I 215 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 3: guess is the best compliment I could give it. You know, 216 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 3: it's okay, right. 217 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: I keep saying. Mike Kiseki being touted as a big addition, 218 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: but Drew Sample has been in the Bengals system for 219 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 2: years and Gisekei struggled to earn playing time New England 220 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: last year. 221 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 3: Gabbitt sample will touch it absolutely. Yeah, I think he'll get. 222 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: The Bengals are not fulfilling Trey Henderson's trade request, so 223 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 2: he'll be back. Last year's first round pick, Miles Murphy 224 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: needs to contribute more as a third edge rusher. 225 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, Hubbard, I think is coming off of surgery too. 226 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, They're gonna need Murphy to step forward. 227 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 3: And Murphy was fine, but if he doesn't take a 228 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 3: step forward, then you have to start questioning to pick. 229 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: The defensive tackle position is way deeper after the signing 230 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: of Sheldon Rankins and selections of Chris Jenkins and McKinley 231 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: Jackson on Day two of the draft. 232 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: What a difference maker is Yeah, yeah, I mean they 233 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 3: are okay, they go about four deep now minus Reader, 234 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 3: but they're split through the last two or three years 235 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 3: with him Without Reader on the field, They're not t. J. 236 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: Watt esque, but they're drastic, pretty bad. Yeah, they're pretty drastic. 237 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: He's a really good player. 238 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: The Bengals are moving twenty twenty two first round draft 239 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 2: pick Dax Hill to cornerback reprojects as a backup. He'd 240 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 2: be no higher than fourth on the safety depth chart. 241 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: With old friend Von Bell back in the mix as well. 242 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. I had loved Hill coming out and it has 243 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: him worked out and now he's a depth corner. It 244 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 3: won't be the Steelers. I wonder if somebody could try 245 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 3: him away. They're not the easiest teeming the trader No. 246 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty two first round draft. They're probably not ready 247 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 2: to pull the plug yet. 248 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 3: I mean, if he was on some other team and 249 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 3: now was the Steelers, I'd offer your fifth round pick 250 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 3: for him or something. 251 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 2: The development of young defensive backs Cam Taller, Britt DJ Turner, 252 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: Jordan Battle and Hill could be the key to the 253 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 2: whole defense. 254 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 3: And not a bad way of saying it. Yeah, yeah, 255 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 3: they got a lot of bodies there too. 256 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 2: And moving on to the Cleeve and then Browns. The 257 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: Browns starting quarterback, running back, and top three tackles are 258 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 2: coming off major injuries. That's something, especially a tackle where 259 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 2: they hoped to be ready for the season. 260 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 3: I've never heard that sentence exactly like that, but wow, yeah, 261 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 3: I mean top three tackles. 262 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 2: H Deshaun Watson's absence from OTAs could allow Jamis Winston 263 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: to learn the offense faster. Tyler Huntley is also on 264 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 2: board for depth along with the second year quarterback Dory 265 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 2: and Thompson Robinson. 266 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: It's hard to keep all four. Yeah, Like if they 267 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 3: exposed dtr I bet somebody grabs him. 268 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 2: Jerry Judy hasn't been a consistent as a pro, but 269 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: he gets open and upgrades this receiver group's talent. His 270 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: hefty contract shows the Browns believe in him. Cedric Tillman 271 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 2: and Elijah Moore figure to battle for the wide receiver 272 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: three spot. 273 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I don't know the Cooper is a one, 274 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 3: but he's quality. I liked Tilman coming out. I loved 275 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 3: Elijah Moore. Something's missing there. I don't know if he's 276 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 3: not a quick learner or what, but something's missing there. 277 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 3: I think the Judy contract will bite him, but he's 278 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 3: probably better than the twos they've had, I guess. I mean, 279 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 3: that's probably the position they upgraded most this offseason. They 280 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: didn't do a lot. 281 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that they upgraded it tremendously. 282 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 3: I would not want to have the dollars invested in 283 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 3: those receivers. 284 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: That they do, right, it's bad, bad money management. 285 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 3: I mean, on game day, you're gonna be happy Judy's 286 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: there compared to the dudes who played with before. But 287 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 3: I think that's I think they have too much money 288 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 3: invest in that group. 289 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: Jack Conklin is the biggest concern of the injured tackles 290 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: because of his age and severity of his knee injuries. 291 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: It's possible last year's rookie revelation Day one Jones also 292 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 2: coming off a knee injury, winds up winning the right 293 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: jackle job long term. 294 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 3: Then I assume you'd cut Conklin, I assume or try 295 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 3: to trade him. 296 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, he probably have a tough time doing it with 297 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: him coming off the knee injuries. He's gonna have to 298 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: pass physical. 299 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 3: And I would think you'd have to have a preseason 300 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 3: game worth of tape out there or something to show 301 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 3: he's out there. Kina Jones was a revelation, but he 302 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: was a nice pick up. 303 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, revelation. Everybody knew who he was, you know. 304 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 3: I mean they lit a fire under him. He was 305 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 3: considered super lazy, and you know he played well. I 306 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 3: also don't love three hundred and eighty pounders coming off 307 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: lower body injury. 308 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: No, he's top heavy. Yeah, like a big big tree fall. 309 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 3: Right, hard cap situation. He's gonna get every nod over Conklin. Yeah, 310 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 3: and it might Eve be a better player. I don't know. 311 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 2: The injuries in addition to departure of coach Bill Callahan 312 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 2: make the offensive line a bigger question mark than usual. 313 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: After a steady run is one of the best groups 314 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: in football. 315 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that really applies to Jones, and it 316 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 3: really applies to Ethan Posick, their starting center. I'm sure 317 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: the guards would be good no matter what, but Posik, 318 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 3: if you remember, I tried to think how this went, 319 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 3: but Tonio left. He was a center right now, not 320 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 3: on Potonio. I forget who their center was was pretty good. 321 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 3: They were retired Tepper or JC Tretter Tretdor and he 322 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 3: went into the league office or whatever, and that was 323 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 3: kind of unsuspecting. And they drafted someone in the fourth 324 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 3: round and he got hurt opening day or right right 325 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 3: at the beginning of camp. And they picked up Postik 326 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: for nothing off Seattle, who was an early pick from 327 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 3: LSU but had really inconsistent time at Seattle. Callahan turned 328 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 3: him into a pretty good player, and then they paid 329 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 3: post Sick. Well, I wonder if he's a Munchak millionaire, 330 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like, once the line coach leaves, 331 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 3: are we going to see old postic and yeah, yeah, 332 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 3: I would worry me. 333 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 2: The Browns have great edge depth behind. Perhaps it's the 334 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: best starting tandem in football. Well, I would disagree. 335 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 3: It's the best if it's the best, but it's good obviously. Uh. 336 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: The interior line is less exciting, although Dalvin Tomlinson was 337 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: another smart acquisition by Brown's GM Andrew Berry last offseason. 338 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's a good defense anyway cut it. 339 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 3: But I don't think the D line's great Outside of Garrett, 340 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 3: I think it's fine. 341 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: The blowout AFC playoff loss was a reminder that dominant 342 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: defenses have a hard time staying that way. Any decline 343 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: in year two under Jim Schwartz, however, should be mitigated 344 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: by an excellent cornerback depth chart. 345 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 3: They do. They're very good at corner. 346 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: But again, they were a dominant defense at home. 347 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 3: Amazing at home. Yeah below Averager on the road. 348 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it made no sense. 349 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 3: It made no sense. And I don't know if Schwartz 350 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 3: has the answer. Why does the head coach have the answer? 351 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: Why? 352 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 3: But I mean, having a lot of conversations, say hey, Jim, 353 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 3: let's go ahad and get a beer and talk about 354 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 3: what could possibly be the difference. 355 00:15:58,360 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: How can we make this different? 356 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: Maybe it's just aid at home verse eight on the 357 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 3: road and crowd noise is our best friend or whatever. 358 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 3: Maybe I'm sure there was a lot of weather involved 359 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: to in Cleveland that helped the defense or both defenses, 360 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: But I'm a little worry about the road stuff here, Jim. 361 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: The final one. This is an eleven win team with 362 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 2: plenty of talent in continuity that just needs better quarterback 363 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: play to be in the AFC title mix. I don't 364 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: know if I agree. 365 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 3: With that better quarterback play. 366 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 2: Better quarterback play would go a long way. 367 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean it can't go from bad to 368 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 3: average to be in that mix. It needs to go 369 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 3: bad to old DeShawn. Yeah, I mean old DeShawn. I 370 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 3: think this will be one of the best teams in 371 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 3: the league, right, That's just that's a leap of faith. 372 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say the Steelers for next even or you 373 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 3: can roll through it here, all right? Cool? All right? 374 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: So for the Steelers, Justin Fields and Russell Wilson are 375 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: such similar players, I expect the Steelers would go with 376 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: the younger, more explosive version once they see them side 377 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: by side. Even if Wilson wins a week one job, 378 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 2: Fields is my pick to play most games. I can't 379 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: disagree with that. 380 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 3: More. Yeah, I don't think they're similar players. I don't 381 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 3: think so at this stage of their career. I mean, 382 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 3: I think Wilson's got a lot of wisdom that Field 383 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 3: still needs to have. And I haven't said this much 384 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 3: on the air, And I'm not making excuse for Fields 385 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 3: because he was very up and down with his Bears career, 386 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 3: but they did a they kind of drew up the 387 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 3: blueprint of how to ruin a quarterback. Didn't help him 388 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 3: one bit. They both they both are good athletes, but 389 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 3: when we see Fields next to Wilson, they're not. We're 390 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 3: not gonna say they're even similar athletes at this stage 391 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 3: of their career. And they both hold the ball time. 392 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 3: Other than that, I don't see a lot of similarities. 393 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 2: Ones are much better deep thrower, Yeah, is more just 394 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 2: seen more more than yeah? 395 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, the ones. I'm not even sure Fields is the 396 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 3: third year version of Wilson. You know, you know, they're 397 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 3: a lot different than the guys that were here. 398 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 2: I'll tell you that this wide receiver room is among 399 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 2: the worst in football. Van Jefferson was a let down 400 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles and Atlanta, struggling to track the ball. 401 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: He's not a lock to make the team. Third pick 402 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 2: Roman Wilson is most likely option to be the second receiver. 403 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 2: Calvin Austin and Ques Watkins profile is decent number four options. 404 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 3: I actually agree with all that that's my biggest concern 405 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 3: with the team, and it's my. 406 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 2: Biggest I don't know, I don't know that it's one 407 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 2: of the worst in football. 408 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 3: I think it is right now. 409 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 2: I think it's like, well, I mean, when we're talking worst, 410 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 2: I'm talking about. 411 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 3: Come with a few like you screenshoted the Bills receivers 412 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:26,479 Speaker 3: right now. 413 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: Its awful. 414 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're really rough. I mean there's a couple of 415 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: bad ones. There's no doubt in that conversation. 416 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 2: Having George Pickett, like, you have a thousand yard receiver 417 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 2: on your roster. 418 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 3: I wish I had more faith that I know he's 419 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 3: there are other. 420 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 2: Teams out there that don't have a thousand Like we 421 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: may love what the Giants did going out and getting sure, 422 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 2: but we don't know right, right, right, right, you know, 423 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: we may think that the Arizona Cardinals, well, they may 424 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: fix this here, but we don't know. 425 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 3: I mean, there's certainly something to be said for We've 426 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 3: seen two years of NFL play from Pickens and they've 427 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 3: been good, and they be any better. And I'm a 428 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 3: big believer. I just wish that there was a two. 429 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: Oh I'm with you, Yeah, I'm with you, But I 430 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: don't know that. I know, Yes, you're right. Van Jefferson 431 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 2: is not a lot to make the team. Neither is 432 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 2: Calvin Austin or Ques Watkins. 433 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 3: No, right, right right, or Miller all those guys. I mean, 434 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 3: I think that's what they're doing is we're hoping that 435 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 3: we can create a lot of competition. Right now. We 436 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 3: didn't land a number two, and maybe that still happens, 437 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 3: maybe doesn't, and Mims and you know those type of dudes, 438 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 3: see who shines, there'll be a lot of competition for 439 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 3: roster space. 440 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 2: It was a surprise to see the Steelers pass on 441 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 2: the fifty year option Naujie Harris at the relatively low 442 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 2: price of six point eight million. That's a signed Jayleen 443 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 2: Warren could wind up with more snaps and the even 444 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 2: split between the two starters than last season. No, no, 445 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 2: that's not true. 446 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 3: No, I was shocked they didn't pick it up. We 447 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 3: said that leading up, But I don't think that indicates 448 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 3: that Warren's the man now. 449 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 2: Like people, that's a fantasy football reaction. Yeah, yeah, oh 450 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 2: Jyalen Warren's going to get more touches in Najie Harris. No, 451 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: he's not. 452 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 3: I onlyink you will, I only you will. What they've 453 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 3: done has worked with their. 454 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 2: Work, they will be very very much the way it 455 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 2: was last year. 456 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 3: I think Tomlin's quite happy with it, and that's kind 457 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 3: of all you need to know. 458 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 2: Troy Fatano and Zach Fraser profile is Day one starters. 459 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 2: Even though the Steelers usually slow play their rookies, this 460 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: group should be among the league's best at pulling on runs. 461 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 3: I think all that's true. I think there's a very 462 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 3: good chance both those guys are Day one starters. 463 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: Third round rookie Peyton Wilson will have a chance to 464 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 2: challenge veteran the Land and Roberts for linebacker snaps next 465 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 2: to Patrick Queen. I'm a little worried about Queen declining 466 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: away from Rokwan Smith, especially with the Steelers swinging and 467 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: missing so often at the position. Well, those things don't correlate. Yeah, 468 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 2: just because the Steelers missed on Devin Bush doesn't mean 469 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: Patrick Queen can't play. We've seen enough of Patrick Queen 470 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 2: in the NFL to know that he can play. 471 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 3: And I wouldn't say Holkom's a swinging miss or Roberts 472 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 3: the swinging mess. No, I wasn't even thinking about Bush. 473 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 3: I was thinking about free agent acquisitions at linebacker since Shazir. 474 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 3: And this is the biggest swing they've taken, you know, 475 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 3: like they didn't go break the bank for whole Robert. 476 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 2: Or they don't know what I mean. They didn't make 477 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 2: it trade for Rokwan Smith and even but they didn't 478 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 2: go sign what the Jets do? What's his face from 479 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 2: the Ravens. 480 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 3: Oh, when they went and gave C. J. 481 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 2: Mosley at moy a ton of money and that's never 482 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 2: that was. That was a way big, too much of 483 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: an overpay. 484 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 3: I don't know the Queen will regress away from Rokuwan, 485 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 3: but I guess that sentences worth typing. You know, Yeah, 486 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 3: he base said I have some concerns that he won't 487 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 3: be the same as Batman. You know, yeah, I get it, 488 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 3: but for what they paid for him? Again, I mean 489 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 3: we thought he would make eighteen million year right, and 490 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 3: we weren't in on it at that price. But at 491 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 3: this price, I'm thrilled with it. 492 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 2: The Steelers always seem to have future defenser slars simmering. 493 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 2: Both Keanu Benton and Joey Porter Junior are candidates to 494 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 2: make the leap this season. 495 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, this guy's right into a national audience 496 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 3: that might not know how good those two were in 497 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: their snaps. Everyone our listeners is like, yeah, obviously, yeah. 498 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 2: I listened three safeties among their starters. Because cornerback doesn't 499 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 2: have a logical nickel starter, look for the Steelers to 500 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 2: seek out veteran players who could challenge for immediate snaps 501 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: at cornerback and receiver. Steffan Gilmore. Some defensive line depth 502 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: could help too. It's another steff On Gilmore, Like that 503 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 2: doesn't excite me at all. 504 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 3: No, I guess I would call three safety starters. Like, 505 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 3: if they were to line up today, would KZ be 506 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 3: the slot at all? Probably? 507 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 2: No, I don't think he would be. 508 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 3: No. I mean that's still to be determined that in that. 509 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 2: Situation where he listed three safeties out there, maybe it's 510 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 2: making fitz Patrick, who's your. 511 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 3: Slot, maybe maybe or rotate them around. I love kz 512 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 3: is the slot. I see what he's saying. 513 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 2: I mean, we talked about this, that's something we've talked about. 514 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 2: But there's probably going to be somebody else starting it. Nickel. 515 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I tend to think so too. 516 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 2: Put the Steelers just the final and put the Steelers 517 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 2: in the NFC South and he'd easily be the favorites 518 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 2: in the AFC North. They could finish fourth, but there's 519 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 2: enough talent here to take a big step forward. It 520 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 2: fields surprises is with fields again? 521 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say everything except those last couple of. 522 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 2: And what's a big step for They won ten games. 523 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 3: Last year, I don't win fourteen. 524 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: Below average quarter but like below average production. I'm not 525 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 2: gonna say below average quarterback play, but below average production. 526 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 3: They didn't throw hardly any touchdown, right. 527 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying production. Now. They valued the football, 528 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 2: they didn't turn the football. 529 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a script. 530 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 2: So in that respect, they played the position the way 531 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: this team needed them to play the position to win 532 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 2: as constructed. Whereas you know, they thought they felt about it. 533 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 2: So if they get better play than that, that's a 534 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 2: that's a position. Yeah, shouldn't they be a better team 535 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: they won ten games last year? 536 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I definitely agree with the division stuff. 537 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 2: If they were in absolutely the NFC South. 538 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they could also have a successful season this 539 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 3: year and end up fourth in the North. Yeah, I 540 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 3: mean I think that's possible. They could win ten games, 541 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 3: end up being fourth and North. 542 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: All four teams can make the playoffs again. Yeah, this 543 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 2: year they'll be in. They'll be they'll be in the 544 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 2: running for that to happen. 545 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 3: And I don't agree with adding Fields to that. But 546 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 3: if you looked at it from a positive spin, maybe 547 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 3: this writer, like we did when Fields came out, thinks 548 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 3: maybe he goes to the Steelers and he ends up 549 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 3: being a great player, then wow, that would be something 550 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 3: that would be something that would be something. 551 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 2: Right. But anyways, Yeah, that was a good article on 552 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: all Yeah, that was all by Greg Rosenthal from one 553 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 2: of their best guys. 554 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, from the all divisions out there. 555 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 2: Uh, they've started working on they just yeah, yeah, he 556 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 2: just posted the North yesterday, So that's why I wanted 557 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 2: to talk about that. 558 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 3: That's good. One. 559 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 2: Let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson. 560 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on 561 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right after this. 562 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 563 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 564 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: Gold NR Steelers Nation Radio. 565 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly, he is Matt Williamson, 566 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 2: and well this is the Drive on Steelers Sure is 567 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,719 Speaker 2: and Matt. I'm looking here at Marcus mosher piece here 568 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 2: on the thirty third team. 569 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 3: Did a podcast with him this morning. 570 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 2: Seven notable players who should be cut before the twenty 571 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 2: twenty four season. 572 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 3: Okay, not could be, should be? Wow, Okay, I thought 573 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 3: he had one of could be or something like that. 574 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: All right, so his first guy on here. Seven players 575 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: who should be cut before the season. Number one is 576 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: Miles Sanders with the Panthers. 577 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 3: I think that's going to happen. They're not gonna get 578 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 3: anything for him. They drafted Brooks, way overpaid them, They 579 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 3: way overpaid them. And Hubbard actually wasn't bad for them. 580 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 3: I mean he's a quality too. And yeah, I think 581 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 3: Sanders will be let go and you're not gonna get 582 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 3: a seventh round pick for him. But there's no way 583 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 3: he's gonna go yeah, good one. 584 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Alvin Kamara. 585 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 3: I think that's possible too. I assume he cites the 586 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 3: contract the age like I know, fantasy people like what 587 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 3: Kamara was suspended last year, right for the two or 588 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 3: three games or whatever, and then he caught a million 589 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 3: passes in like those first two games, and then he 590 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 3: did nothing like Yeah, I think the fantasy community is like, oh, 591 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 3: Kamara is back. 592 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 2: He's catching the one like his first or second game 593 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 2: back car throwim like sixteen pass. 594 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, like a million targets dumped down. 595 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Kamara is back. 596 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 3: But then they think he averaged like three point five 597 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 3: yards of carry like he was a bad running back 598 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,719 Speaker 3: you know last year. Someone will pick him up kind 599 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 3: of like you know, Ezekiel Elliott or Echol r. But 600 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 3: I don't think he'll be the Saints. I think he 601 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 3: will get cut. Yeah. 602 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 2: Uh, Alan Lazard with the Jets, friend of Aaron that's 603 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 2: the problem. 604 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was another bad contract because of Rogers. They 605 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 3: gave Mike Williams money. Wilson's there, they drafted Corley. That 606 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 3: might be all you need to know. Yeah, but will 607 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 3: they actually go through with it? 608 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know he calls him a glorified 609 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: tight end. 610 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 3: I was about to say, is he interest you if 611 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 3: he's on the open market for the Steelers. I think 612 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 3: he's more of the same, but less explosive. Yeah, he 613 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 3: wouldn't move the needle for me. No, they pick him 614 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 3: up for nothing. 615 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: Uh, Malik Willis with the Titans. 616 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 3: Wow, he's the three. Now did you bring him in? 617 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 2: Um? 618 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 3: No, he's shown nothing. 619 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 2: He has shown I completely missed on him. 620 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 3: Me too, me too. I mean, you have to be 621 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 3: a quarterback and he wasn't. In college at a tiny, 622 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 3: tiny school. He was just the best athlete on the 623 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 3: field and has shown very little in terms of processing 624 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: or being an NFL player. Could they get a draft 625 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 3: pick him, It's not even like the trade Lance situation. 626 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: I don't think they could. Yeah, he's done nothing to 627 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 2: this point. The games that he started, they didn't let 628 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 2: him throw the football. 629 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 3: No, I mean they told you all they need to 630 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 3: know about him when he was on the field. And 631 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 3: he was not a first round pick like Lance. I 632 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 3: mean teams passed on him over and over till the 633 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 3: third round. He'll be in the league, I mean, all 634 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 3: these guys will be in the league. 635 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 2: Yes, but right, yeah, wow, Robert Woods, who we talked 636 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 2: about with the Texans, Yeah, maybe even wait that one out. Yeah, 637 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 2: if he gets cut. I mean, so here's here's what 638 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: they did. They trade for step On Diggs, right, they 639 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 2: re signed Noah Brown. 640 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 3: They forgot about no Brown? 641 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,959 Speaker 2: Right, they acquired Ben's Kronik. Oh, they have Nico Collins, 642 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: Tank del John Meachie and Xavier Hutchinson. 643 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not going to keep him, no chance. And 644 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 3: he's a bit of a cap hit, and he's older 645 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 3: and he does dig stuff not as well as days. Right, Yeah, 646 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 3: he's gone. Yeah, Steers canna wait that one out. I 647 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 3: mean they have to compete for other. 648 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 2: Teams, you know. I mean, but if you're Robert Woods 649 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: and you get released, you're like, that's not a bad situation, no, right, right. 650 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 3: I mean someone earlier in our show linked him to 651 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 3: the Lions or hey maybe if I'm the Raven. I mean, 652 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 3: there's plenty of teams that would be knocking on his door. Yeah, 653 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 3: but Steelers would be fine. 654 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 2: Elijah Mitchell with the forty nine ers. 655 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, they drafted the fast dude out of Louisville. He 656 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 3: draft won every year they do they do Mitchell's been 657 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 3: banged up. Yeah. Maybe, I don't think he's super expensive. 658 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: No, I mean he's They can save one million dollars 659 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 2: if they release him. 660 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I would probably just hold on to him. 661 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm at that. 662 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 3: Stage of the game. You don't know if the rookies 663 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 3: Gorendo is gonna do much for you. Yeah. 664 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 2: I mean he was a kind of a part time player. 665 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, like he wasn't a Yeah, I don't. I don't 666 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 3: feel strong an the way about that. 667 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 2: No. I thought this guy retired, but maybe not. He's 668 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: kind him playing retirement. 669 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 3: Darren Waller, Yeah he's gonna get released. Yeah, slash retired. 670 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 3: I don't think he wants to be a football player anymore. 671 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 2: No, but I understand the Giants traded a third round 672 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: pick for Waller before the twenty twenty three draft, third 673 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 2: round pick. 674 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 3: Third round pick, and they've got next to nothing, very 675 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 3: little out of them interesting career. I mean, they. 676 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 2: Traded a third round pick last year in what was 677 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: one of the best tight end drafts. Yeah, good in 678 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 2: the history of tight end drafts. Right, they could have 679 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 2: just picked one of those guys and bed or whoever 680 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: and been in a much better situation. 681 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 3: That's interesting. Can we think about the Giants a year ago. 682 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 3: They kept Barkley and Jones. He had just been coach 683 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 3: of the Year at his rookie season, and they thought 684 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 3: they were They misjudged how good they thought they were good. Yeah, 685 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 3: they add Waller to this offense. I'm all set. Neil's 686 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 3: going to be a great right tackle, you know, like 687 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 3: we're fine. Jones has turned the corner. We had a 688 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 3: whiz kid coach. 689 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 2: Not out went No, no, not at all. 690 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 3: I mean Waller. I give Waller all the credit in 691 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 3: the world. I mean he was like a seventh round 692 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 3: pick out of Georgia Tech as a big receiver, kind 693 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 3: of like the Wilson in the Florida's Kid this year. Yeah, 694 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 3: he does well known alcohol problems, got himself all cleaned up, 695 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 3: and his career skyrocketed from there as they moved tight end. 696 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 3: But I think he doesn't want to do it anymore. 697 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, uh no, that's his guys. Anybody else 698 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 2: you can think of, I'm sure there's a lot. Yeah, 699 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to I'm racking my brain here. You know, 700 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 2: maybe the thing to do is look at team salary 701 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 2: cap situation. 702 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I did that with receivers that just looked at 703 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 3: like the the bottom half of the league that are 704 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 3: tight against it now, and like Dallas was one of them, 705 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 3: and I thought, could someone pry away Brandon Cooks. 706 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 2: You know, that would be one that would also be 707 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 2: interesting because it would help any team. 708 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 3: Still. 709 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they went out and signed, but they added. 710 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 3: A gallop left and they signed somebody that's gonna make 711 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 3: the team, so it's okay, yeah, yeah, and they're to 712 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 3: give Lamb huge money soon. So I don't know, do 713 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 3: you have the teams that are tight against the cap. 714 00:31:59,360 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 2: That I do. 715 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 3: That's what I did just for receivers. So I think 716 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 3: the Bucks were one I want. 717 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 2: Seattle is right up against it. The Giants are right 718 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 2: up against it, which is why I mean. 719 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 3: They would be trades. And I think that's why Metcalf's 720 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 3: names come up. Yeah, you know, because they are tight 721 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 3: against it. 722 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 2: Miami's tight against it. 723 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 3: Waddle sounds so appealing, but I don't think they are 724 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 3: doing that. 725 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Dallas is up against at one point nine million. 726 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 3: That's what I thought about Cooks. Again, these are trades. Yeah, 727 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 3: you know, I just looked at through a receiver lens. 728 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 3: But there's probably a corner, a linebacker or whatever that's 729 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 3: going to get cut from these teams too. 730 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 2: Buffalo is right up against it. They don't have receivers 731 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 2: here that you'd want, right, Carolina somehow is right up 732 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 2: against it. 733 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 3: I mean you can get Mingo for nothing. I don't 734 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 3: know if that helps you at all. I mean i'd 735 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 3: rather Burks similar situations. But what about uh Fling? Yeah? 736 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 2: Would you be interested in Teling? 737 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 3: He wasn't bad? He's a good year right right? I 738 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 3: mean I know he's old, but he'd be better here 739 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 3: than Yeah, maybe he can still play. Interested in pay 740 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 3: Yeah for one year? Yeah, yeah, that's not terrible, and 741 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 3: be the adult gets open, be the. 742 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 2: Adult in the room too. Hey, that's the guy that's 743 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 2: got you know, eight hundred catches in his career. 744 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 3: Pro Bowls and yeah, yeah, no that's not bad. You 745 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 3: can probably get him for nothing. 746 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 2: You might be able to and we wouldn't be something 747 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:21,959 Speaker 2: you traded them. Deontae Johnson. 748 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder if they even cut the elements all 749 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 3: said maybe. I mean, if they're that tight against. 750 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 2: The cap, you got New Orleans less than ten million under. 751 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 3: That's why Latimore has been dangled but they might cut 752 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 3: someone decent. 753 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 2: You got Atlanta under ten million under. 754 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they don't have a receiver that qualified. 755 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 2: Now San Francisco that been thrown around a ton, the Jets, Yeah, 756 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 2: the Ravens. There's been no receivers there, but. 757 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 3: These teams will be cutting people receivers aside. 758 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 2: Like we're talking, we're having that conversation about the Steelers 759 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 2: wide receiver room. Would you rather have Steelers wide receiver 760 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 2: room or would you rather have Baltimore's wide receiver room? 761 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 2: They're different. 762 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 3: I'd like to have Bateman as my two, even though 763 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 3: there's concerns about them. 764 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 2: But Pickens is clearly the best guy. 765 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, of the group, I like Flowers, but I would 766 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 3: not trade Pickens for Flowers, you know, probably the Steelers 767 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 3: because I don't like the guys. 768 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 2: The death pieces behind that is enough. 769 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 3: I think you have one and you have like four 770 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 3: through six. 771 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 772 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a conversation, but I think the Steelers. 773 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 2: It just hit me as Yeah, yeah, they don't have 774 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 2: any receivers either. Denver's another one under ten million. 775 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 3: Troy, so I think something could be on the move. Yeah, 776 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 3: they drafted what two receivers are one? 777 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 2: I think they drafted too. 778 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,720 Speaker 3: I think they drafted two. Yeah, I mean, anyone drafted 779 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 3: two receivers you could probably get an incumbent off of. 780 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 2: And then Tampa Bay is under ten million. 781 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 3: Godwin still interests me, Yeah, especially after they drafted McMillan. 782 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 3: Give Evans big money. Godwin's up after this year. Maybe 783 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 3: that's like, I mean, they probably look at it like 784 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 3: we want the we wanted to division. We think we're 785 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 3: really good. Now we're not trading our good dudes yet. 786 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know, but yeah, so, I mean 787 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 2: there are I think there's some teams out there that 788 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 2: are up against it. They're going to have to do 789 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 2: some things here just to sign well, most of the 790 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 2: teams are getting their guys signed. 791 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 3: But they're gonna fill ink. 792 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna want to do stuff. 793 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, and real quick. Who are like 794 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 3: the five teams with the most cap space. I know 795 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 3: there's still teams that have a lot. 796 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're looking at the Patriots with almost fifty. Yeah, 797 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 2: Washington has forty three, Jacksonville has thirty three, Arizona's twenty seven, 798 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 2: the Chargers have twenty seven, the Titans have twenty six. 799 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 3: I don't know, how Jacksonville and the Chargers are on 800 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 3: that list, but the other teams are the ones that 801 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 3: just had a time. 802 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 2: Well, the Chargers just cut Yeah, they moved. 803 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 3: On from Kena and everything they did. 804 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 2: Uh. And you get the Steelers sitting there. They got 805 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 2: eighteen point basically eighteen point eight million. 806 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 3: So they're like eight or something like that. 807 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,280 Speaker 2: They're fourteen. That's very close. 808 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot. And if if you look at 809 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 3: next year's they're near the top too, right. I mean 810 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 3: there's some teams have a ton, but they have a 811 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 3: lot of cap flexibility. Yeah, and that's not even with 812 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 3: a cam restructure or anything that they're going to be 813 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 3: at this The money shouldn't hinder any move. 814 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 2: The Raiders are right after them though, so maybe they 815 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 2: wouldn't want to move. 816 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 3: Jacobe Myers maybe not. Yeah, Bill, i'd call Yeah, it's 817 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 3: not a bad name at all. I like that one. Yeah, 818 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:24,479 Speaker 3: it'd be real useful. 819 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 2: Here, let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson. 820 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 2: I'm Dale, Lollie. You're listening to the Drive here on 821 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back to finish up the 822 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 2: show right after this. 823 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 824 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 825 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 826 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lollie. He is the 827 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt Pro Football Focus is put together 828 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 2: off season grades. 829 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, team, just draft. 830 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 2: This is everything, you know, everything you've done thus far 831 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 2: to this point in the season. So let's go ahead 832 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 2: and take a quick look. See at that. 833 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 3: Trevor Sikima wrote these. He actually joined us at the combine. 834 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 3: He does really good work. He's one of my favorite 835 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 3: guys that they have. 836 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,760 Speaker 2: He gave the Arizona Cardinals a B plus. 837 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're making steps forward. Yeah good. 838 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,720 Speaker 2: The Falcons get a C minus. 839 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 3: I tend to agree the quarterback stuff is sticky, and 840 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 3: I don't know if the defense got any better. Yeah, 841 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 3: I tend to agree. Yeah, they had a lot of 842 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 3: resources too. 843 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 2: The Ravens get a B plus. 844 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 3: I think they're worse than they were a year ago. Yeah. 845 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 2: I don't know how you get a B plus right 846 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 2: when you're a worse team than what you were. 847 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 3: I mean, they were really good, but they took a 848 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 3: small step back, at least on paper. I know that 849 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 3: he really liked their draft. 850 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's raving about their draft. Yeah, okay, again, it's 851 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 2: a very non raven like draft, and it is. 852 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't hate their draft or anything, but 853 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 3: I knew he was really high on usually. 854 00:37:59,239 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 2: Draft tough guys. 855 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't draft tough guys. True. 856 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 2: The Bills get a C plus. 857 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 3: A's rebuild time. I mean, it's take a step back. 858 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 2: And yeah, you know you knew it wasn't gonna get old. 859 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it wasn't gonna be pretty. 860 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 2: Carolina gets a C plus. 861 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 3: I commend them for at least putting all their off 862 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 3: season resources into Bryce Young. You know, we got them guards, 863 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 3: we got them Deontay I'm a running back. 864 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 2: See here's what I would have considered this as part 865 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 2: of their grade, trading away this year's number one draft pick. 866 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 3: Oh, I was judging Lake from like, you didn't get 867 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 3: I would have them last year for that. 868 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you didn't know. I mean, you're going up 869 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 2: to get your quarterback right right, as it turned out, 870 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 2: you didn't either. 871 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 3: Be the first pick in the draft, right, brutal moves. 872 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 3: It didn't work, No, it sure didn't. You'd rather Kate 873 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 3: the Williams than Young. 874 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. The Bears get an A. 875 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know if they were genius. I mean 876 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 3: they had a ton of caps, basically the first overall 877 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,720 Speaker 3: pick of the ninth overall pick to the top, giving 878 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 3: every pretty swift the smartest thing in the world, you know. 879 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 2: The Bengals get an A. 880 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 3: I like the safety stuff they did. They weren't that active, No, 881 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 3: it was so great about the Bengals. I don't know, 882 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 3: it's fine, okay. Uh. 883 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 2: Cleveland gets a B minus. 884 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 3: I think a change. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they were one 885 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 3: of the least active teams out there. 886 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't don't have any draft picks. Your big 887 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 2: your big move in the off season was trading for 888 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 2: Jerry Judy and. 889 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 3: Signing two backup quarterbacks. 890 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 891 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't do a whole lot. 892 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 2: Dallas gets a C plus. 893 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 3: They were released les. Yeah. Grades are funny, Like I've 894 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 3: been laughing about these in the podcast, Like no one 895 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 3: ever gives an A plus, No one ever, ever ever 896 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 3: gives a D or fight Like, don't just give everybody 897 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 3: bs and B minuses, you know, like be harsh on them, 898 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 3: you know, like this was a D minus. 899 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,240 Speaker 2: This was Yeah, you're telling me Dallas had a slightly 900 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 2: above average off season. 901 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 3: They didn't because said receive plus means to me, right 902 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 3: right right? I mean yeah, I think grades are kind 903 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 3: of goofy, like everyone just gives season b's, like think 904 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 3: somebody be standing on the table. Yeah. 905 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 2: Uh, Denver gets a B minus. 906 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 3: I mean they'd get out from the Wilson thing, which 907 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 3: they didn't have to, they chose to. Yeah, as I said, 908 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 3: we commending them for getting out of the Wilson thing 909 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 3: or not. I mean I can see both sides of the. 910 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 2: Strictly as Sean Payton, I can't. I don't. 911 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 3: I don't work with this guy thing and we needed 912 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 3: We're gonna have a ton of dead money as a 913 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,280 Speaker 3: as a result, which then hampers all our other moves, which. 914 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 2: Means you gotta cut Justin Simmons and yeah yeah, trade 915 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 2: Jerry Judy and let Lloyd Cushionberry walk. 916 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 917 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 3: Like, I don't think they're in a good spot. 918 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 2: That's not a bee to me. 919 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 3: No, I think it's a rough off season. This would 920 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 3: eat your vegetables off season. Yeah. 921 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,720 Speaker 2: Uh. Detroit gets an A plus. 922 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,240 Speaker 3: Wow, you did stand on the table there. Plus. 923 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 2: I like what they did. 924 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 3: I mean they brought in some defensive tackles and corners. 925 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 3: Receiver still worries me. Yeah, I'm sure he did this 926 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 3: before the golf extension. No, it's included, this is after. Yeah, Okay, 927 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 3: the Packers get to be they're staying the course and 928 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 3: spending a little bit of money, and okay, I love it. 929 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 2: I love the move of swap swapping out running backs 930 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 2: me either. 931 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 3: I think Aaron Jones might be better than josh Acob. Yeah, 932 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 3: I'm a big Aaron Jones believer. 933 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Houston gets a B plus. 934 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 3: Yes, but I didn't love their draft. Yeah, they traded 935 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 3: away from the twenty third pick before they knew who 936 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 3: was going to be there and ended up drafting a 937 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 3: slot corner with their first pick. You know, like they 938 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 3: decided a couple of pieces in the draft. I don't know, 939 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,839 Speaker 3: you know, trading for Joe Mixon is a great movie either. 940 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 2: No, the Colts were digs for that matter, right right right, 941 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 2: Like you're gonna pay that guy a bunch of money 942 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,919 Speaker 2: when you've got maybe better guys on your roster. 943 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 3: If I was the Texans, I would worry that maybe 944 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 3: we think we're better than we are already, you know, 945 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 3: the one piece away thing, you know, like, yeah, you 946 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,959 Speaker 3: could still use first round picks. 947 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:00,959 Speaker 2: The Colt's get a B plus. 948 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 3: I like what they've done. Flacco wouldn't be my backup quarterback. 949 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 2: No, Jacksonville gets a C plus. 950 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 3: I think they overspent as usual and free agency and 951 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,280 Speaker 3: their draft was below average. 952 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 2: For me. Replacing Calvin Ridley with Gabe Davis right doesn't 953 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 2: do it right. 954 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 3: I'd like the Thomas felt to them. Yeah, after trading back. 955 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 2: The Chiefs get an a. 956 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 3: Pretty good but it'd be nice to have Snead. Yeah, 957 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 3: I mean they were if you remember they were, this 958 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 3: was Chris Jones or Snead. Chris Jones are sneed and 959 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 3: I think they're happy with how it panned out. They 960 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 3: at least got a pick Ann Jones. Uh, it's a 961 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 3: quality move. I mean, Dave, you're worthy and Marquis Brown 962 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 3: are nice additions. Be nice A Frasie Rice would stay 963 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 3: out of trouble in the off season. 964 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 2: That would help. And you know, maybe Travis Kelcey isn't 965 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 2: running around the jet setting with Taylor Swift. 966 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 3: How about stay in the weight room. 967 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 2: The Raiders get a b. 968 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 3: Oh quarterback thing would really hurt my grade for them. 969 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 3: I don't think there's a team that's worse off a 970 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 3: quarterback right now, Yeah, and so that has to factor. 971 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:14,240 Speaker 2: It should Yeah, the Chargers get an A minus. I'm sorry, 972 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 2: but when you when your team walks away from the 973 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 2: guys like Keenan Allen and Mike Williams and and Eric Kent, like, 974 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 2: you didn't get better. 975 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 3: No, they're not a better team on paper, that's for sure. 976 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,879 Speaker 3: I mean, I think their coach and upgrade is important, 977 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 3: but this is another eat your vegetable off season for them. Yeah, 978 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 3: I don't think they got better. 979 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 2: The Rams get an A minus. 980 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 3: Fine, but it's Kevin Dotson worth eighteen million. I mean, 981 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 3: I see what they're doing. But they didn't get the 982 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,879 Speaker 3: best guards in the league, and they're paying best guards 983 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 3: in the league money for them, you know, and they 984 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 3: lost Aaron Donald the yeah right right, Yeah, my bigger 985 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 3: losses any team suffered all off season, no doubt, Yeah, 986 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 3: no doubt. It's got to count. 987 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 2: Miami gets a B minus. 988 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 3: I don't like how they team building. I mean, I 989 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,280 Speaker 3: know what they're doing. Their speeds, you playing heat. 990 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 2: Christian Wilkins and Van Ginkel, Robert hunt Walk and you 991 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,320 Speaker 2: brughn In, Jordan Poyer, Kendall Fuller, Johnny Smith, Jordan Brooks, 992 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 2: and Shaq Barrett. 993 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 3: Yeah you lost that trade. Yeah, you definitely lost that trade. 994 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 2: The better players are all in the upper end of 995 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 2: the W big. Yeah. 996 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 3: I don't love their alone. 997 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 2: Hunt Hunts a big loss for that is like he's 998 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 2: one of their few legitimate offensive linemen. 999 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 3: Like yeah, like again, I would have drafted a guard. Yeah, 1000 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 3: somewhere or some least. 1001 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 2: The Vikings get a B minus. 1002 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 3: I can see not going, you know, letting cousins walk 1003 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 3: or maybe he didn't even have a They tried to 1004 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 3: sign him, Yeah, they tried to sign him. He just 1005 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 3: didn't choose you. And I think they made that work reasonably. Well. 1006 00:44:55,360 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 3: My big Vikings complaint is no Day two pickslast year. Well, 1007 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 3: there's only they They made one third round pick last year. 1008 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 3: This year they have like none. Next year they have none. Yeah, 1009 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,240 Speaker 3: like Day two picks are gold. 1010 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna hurt. It's gonna hurt him when the 1011 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 2: salary capt her big time soon. The Patriots get a 1012 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:14,360 Speaker 2: B minus. 1013 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 3: I'm fine with it. I mean it's obviously a total rebuild. Yeah, 1014 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,360 Speaker 3: I expect them all of a sudden to be a contender. 1015 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:23,800 Speaker 2: The Saints get a B plus. 1016 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Drafting Lineman makes me happy. 1017 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, they got Willie Gay on the cheap they Yeah, 1018 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 2: send the tiring math out two first round picks to 1019 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 2: Talisa Folaga and kol Aid mckinstree. 1020 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 3: So yeah, they're all quality editions. Okay, Yeah, that's all right. Great. 1021 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:45,959 Speaker 2: Uh, the Giants get a B plus. 1022 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 3: I like the Giants invested in O Lineman, you know, 1023 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,280 Speaker 3: like Neil might not even start, so the other stuff aside, 1024 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,839 Speaker 3: the Jones thing probably didn't go as they would have liked, 1025 00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 3: but they went out and got starting offensive linemen. It's 1026 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 3: a different way than the Steelers did, but they look 1027 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 3: like they have a real line now. 1028 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:05,320 Speaker 2: The Jets get a B. 1029 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,760 Speaker 3: I'm happy with Mike Wilson Williams. 1030 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,879 Speaker 2: Pick signed a bunch of old guys. 1031 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 3: They have a lot of that are injury prone, but 1032 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 3: they're in I mean, it's clear what their vision is. 1033 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 3: Let's trying to win the whole thing while Rogers is here, 1034 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 3: and that's not's not gonna happen but probably not, probably not, 1035 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:23,719 Speaker 3: and then it's gonna crash and burn. Yeah. 1036 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 2: The Eagles get an A. 1037 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 3: Like their draft, like their coordinator hires, especially Fangio you 1038 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 3: lose Kelsey, that's kind of up there with the Yeah. Yeah, 1039 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 3: I mean those are legit dudes. I saw on Reddick 1040 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 3: gets swapped out for Huff the same that's all right. 1041 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 3: Yeah about Berkley, I mean that's a nice addition you 1042 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 3: haven't had, you know. 1043 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 2: Uh. The Steelers get a B plus. 1044 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very happy with their offseason. I mean, i'd 1045 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 3: like a receiver. We've talked out to death. But the 1046 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,480 Speaker 3: fact that you've rebuilt a line, it is a hard 1047 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 3: thing to accomplish, and you've totally revented quarterback room and 1048 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 3: one off one is sweeping move. Yeah, I'll take it. 1049 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 2: I would say it's more a type material to be. 1050 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 3: Even the defensive even if it doesn't work out Jackson and. 1051 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 2: Queen, what you're able to accomplish and in the course 1052 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:18,839 Speaker 2: of one off. 1053 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 3: Season is pretty pretty big, pretty big. 1054 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 2: Uh. San Francisco a C plus very few moves. Yeah, yeah, 1055 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 2: not much. 1056 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 3: They're about the same. Yeah, Seattle will be plus they're 1057 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 3: going back to the drawing board. 1058 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're telling me that Seattle's off season is 1059 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 2: equal to that of the Steelers off season. 1060 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 3: They both got be they both got B pluses. Yeah, 1061 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,840 Speaker 3: I don't see it that way. I think Seattle's realizing 1062 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 3: it would be like the year after Tomlin is gone. 1063 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 3: That's a really weird year for an organization. 1064 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 2: You're you're you're in flux here. You know, you're two 1065 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 2: defensive minded coaches who aren't going to see things the 1066 00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 2: same way. 1067 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 3: You know. I wish there was a succession plan for 1068 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,920 Speaker 3: Gina Smith too. Yeah, I don't see that at all. 1069 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay gets an A. 1070 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 3: I guess they kept Baker that seems like a thousand 1071 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,719 Speaker 3: years ago, and considering the golf contract, that's not a 1072 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 3: bad contract for a starting quarterback. Kept Evans, that was 1073 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 3: you know, they had some big time guys up. Yeah 1074 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 3: that the draft was fine, Barton will play right away, 1075 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 3: but A A A seems really kind and A this 1076 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,320 Speaker 3: gave Winfield the most money in defensive make it. 1077 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 2: They didn't make an impact move at all. Yeah, they 1078 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 2: just kept their own basically. 1079 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm sitting here thinking like, okay, they're kind of 1080 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 3: going to run it back. Yeah right, Yeah, it's fine. 1081 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 2: They get a little younger in the offensive line with 1082 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 2: Graham Barton. 1083 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Yeah, that's an a. 1084 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 2: The Titans gonna be They did a lot they did 1085 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 2: a lot. They were very active, which. 1086 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 3: I can understand. I think Ridley was an overpay and 1087 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,359 Speaker 3: Latham has to switch sides. Probably fine. 1088 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:02,400 Speaker 2: Washington gets an a. 1089 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,840 Speaker 3: I agree with that. I mean, that's just let's just 1090 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 3: sweep the floors of everything that used to be here 1091 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,880 Speaker 3: and even bringing in like Ertz. 1092 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 2: And just guys who are professional players who have been there, 1093 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,320 Speaker 2: done in a million drafts. 1094 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 3: And let's just try to change everything. Let's just paint 1095 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,800 Speaker 3: all the walls a totally different color. Yeah, okay, you 1096 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 3: know that's the right thing for that organization. And maybe 1097 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 3: they have a quarterback now maybe maybe, maybe, who knows. 1098 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 2: But those are the grades given up by Trevor si 1099 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 2: on Pro Football Focus. 1100 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:33,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good read. 1101 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's going to do it for the show today, Matt. 1102 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, coming up tonight, we'll tune in find. 1103 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 2: The schedule release live at eight pm tonight on these 1104 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,759 Speaker 2: very era waves and on DVE as well, so you 1105 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 2: can listen to that. But for my partner Matt Williamson 1106 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 2: for CJ here on site keeping us on the air, 1107 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,200 Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly. 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