1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:00,680 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 2: It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz. Wee can review 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 2: Ben Ferguson with you. And these are the stories that 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: you may have missed that we talked about this past week. 5 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: First up, Biden responds to anti semitism by basically not 6 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: condemning it at all. 7 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: Why is the White House playing it this way? We'll 8 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: explain it. 9 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: Also, the new NPR CEO has major issues with truth 10 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: and says that the First Amendment really gets in the way. 11 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: Why are your tax dollurs going to fund her radical agenda? 12 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 2: We'll break that down for you as well. And finally, 13 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: Democrats are scared. They're terrified the youth vote isn't coming 14 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: in to do what they did last time, and now 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: they're having to take a radical stance against Israel to 16 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: try to get young voters back on their team. It's 17 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: the weekend Review and it starts right now. We've been 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: covering anti semitism on college campuses and exposing what's been happening, 19 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 2: but now we're getting to see the White House, specifically, 20 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: the President of the United States of America is just 21 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: pathetic and that word doesn't seem strong enough, but a 22 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: pathetic response to anti Semitism on college campuses. I want 23 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: to play this for you from a reporter to the 24 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 2: President of the United States of America and get your 25 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 2: reaction to it. Listen to this and the anti submitted 26 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: protests on college campuses. 27 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 3: I condemned that another protests. That's why I've set up 28 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 3: I ford them to do with that. I also condemn 29 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: those who don't understand what's going on with the Palestinians 30 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 3: and they're how they're dreaming. 31 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 4: Columbia University president resigned. 32 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. 33 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 2: I'll allot to find out more of I love that 34 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: they asked should she resign? 35 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: He because I didn't know that. I'll have to find 36 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: out more about that. But he condemns. 37 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: People that are anti Semitic and then says, I also 38 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: condemned those that don't know about the Palestinians, Like, what 39 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: in the hell is the president doing here? 40 00:01:58,680 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: Sir? 41 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 5: Well, look, he said he didn't know that, and I 42 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 5: actually believe that's some of the most honest words that 43 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 5: he said. I think he has no idea what's going on. 44 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 5: He's not aware of what's going on, and in particular, 45 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 5: he's professing ignorance as to what's happening at Columbia, what's 46 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 5: happening at Yale? And it is utterly disgraceful. But you 47 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 5: know who's not ignorant? I mean, I agree he's oblivious, 48 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 5: But who's not ignorant? Or the other Democrats who are 49 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 5: supporting this And and I want you to listen to 50 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 5: So there was an event, a Climate Core event where 51 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 5: AOC was speaking right next to Joe Biden, and he 52 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 5: was right there, and and AOC had something to say 53 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 5: on this that I want everyone, everyone to listen and hear. 54 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 5: Here here's AOC addressing Columbia and Yale. 55 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 6: It is especially important that we remember the power of 56 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 6: young people shaping this country today, of all days, as 57 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 6: we once again witness the leadership of those peaceful student 58 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 6: led protests on campus. It's like columb Via, Yale, Berkeley, 59 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 6: and many. 60 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: Others really, because a group of Yelle Student Center formed 61 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 2: a human chain to block a Jewish student from entering 62 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: the university yesterday, and if you no history, this was 63 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 2: a chilling act of anti Semitism that echoed nineteen thirty 64 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: nine when Nazis blocked Jewish students are entering Vienna University 65 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: simply because they were Jews. 66 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 5: Now that's absolutely right. And you also had a Jewish 67 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 5: student at Yale who was poked in the eye with 68 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 5: a flag and had to seek medical treatment because of that. 69 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 5: And to say, when you have threats of murder and 70 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 5: violence and death, when you have, as you had it 71 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 5: at Columbia, a student saying that Hamas should murder the 72 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 5: Jewish students on that campus, that is not peaceful. Threats 73 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 5: of violence and calling from the murder of your former 74 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 5: students is not remotely peaceful. But understand, AOC, this is 75 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 5: a sitting member of Congress. She's singling out Columbia Yale, 76 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 5: she's praising what's happening at Columbia Yale. Understand she supports 77 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 5: this vicious anti semitism. And there is Joe Biden happily 78 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 5: sitting there. In fact, he said at the same event 79 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 5: that he's learned that when AOC listened and it speaks, 80 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 5: you got to listen to her. Well, you know that 81 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 5: that is Unfortunately, today's Democrat party, which is the White House, 82 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 5: is utterly tepid, unwilling to condemn specifically what is happening 83 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 5: at Columbia and Yale, and the radicals in their party 84 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 5: explicitly endorse it and celebrate it. 85 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 2: You mentioned the radicals of the Democratic Party. You and 86 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: I have said this for a long time. When they 87 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: tell you what they believe in, believe them. I'll give 88 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: you example of this. A group of Columbia University professors 89 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: actually held a rally Monday. These are the professors who 90 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,799 Speaker 2: are indoctrinating the kids to hate Jews and hate Israel. 91 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 2: They held a rally to express solidarity solidarity with the 92 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: anti Semitic students that had been suspended for holding unauthorized 93 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: protests on campus. And not only that, but when you 94 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: go back and look at what these leaders these universities believe, 95 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 2: whether it's cutting gay who we've exposed on the show 96 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 2: multiple times. But at an event just two months after 97 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: nine to eleven, Columbia University's current president remarked, and this 98 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 2: was two months after nine to eleven, that terrorism is 99 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: a quote form of protesting. 100 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: When they tell you who they are, believe them. Listen 101 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: to this. 102 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 7: So it's not you'll always have individuals who will have 103 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 7: extreme views. But what's really troubling in the region is 104 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 7: that there's actually quite a broad base of society which 105 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 7: has some sympathy for the terrorists, not so much because 106 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 7: they approve of their methods, but it's a form of 107 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 7: protesting against a system which is not delivering for them 108 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 7: on the economic or the political front. 109 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: I mean, that's no wonder that this university is totally 110 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: just lost to its mind and we're watching this anti semitism. 111 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 2: If that's what you're saying in public two months after 112 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: nine to eleven, then imagine how many children you've been 113 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: able to indoctrinate college students to believe that the Jews 114 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 2: are Israel and that you should feel sympathy for Hamas 115 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 2: has bought Isis al Kaeda. 116 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: The list goes on and on. 117 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 5: Well, and when she says there's a broad base of 118 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 5: society that has sympathy for these terrorists, she's revealing a 119 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 5: lot about the world in which she lives, about Ivy 120 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 5: League universities, about our elite universities, about our academic system, 121 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 5: about the left. Everyone she associates with falls into that 122 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 5: crowd when they look at the terrorists and understand, we're 123 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 5: not talking about terrorists in the abstract, We're talking about 124 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 5: Hamas and what they did on October seventh, murdering twelve 125 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 5: hundred israelis murdering some thirty Americans, raping women and little girls, 126 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 5: committing atrocities that the world has not seen since the Nazis. 127 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 5: And in today's leftist academy, using the President of Columbia's 128 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 5: own word, they have some sympathy for that. No, there 129 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 5: is no sympathy. Terrorism is not a form of protest. 130 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 5: Terrorism is a horrific form of violence that targets civilians, 131 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 5: that targets women and children, that commits murder and act 132 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 5: of cruelty. And that's exactly what Hamas did, and it's 133 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 5: what It's the reason these college campuses are allowing these 134 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 5: anti Semitic protests to go on, these threats to against 135 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 5: Jewish students to go on. It's the reason Jewish students 136 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 5: are being advised by the Orthodox rabbi at Columbia to 137 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 5: stay home because Colombia will not protect your physical safety. 138 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 5: And the reason is the President of Columbia, the administrators 139 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 5: of Columbia, they explicitly sighed with the radicals and with 140 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 5: the terrorists, and it is shameful and it's sick. 141 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: Finally, on this we're going to do a deep dive 142 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 2: about the dark money that is clearly backing and orchestrating 143 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: these not only events, but the shutting down of roads 144 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: and bridges and supporting what's happening on these college campuses 145 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: being anti Semitic. But there is one caveat, and this 146 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 2: should be talked about it. And like I said, we're 147 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 2: gonna give you a lot more on this in another episode. 148 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: But we've now found out that the NFL, the National 149 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: Football League, funded a left wing group bailing out anti 150 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 2: Israel bridge blockers. And this is again how the left 151 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: just holds these companies and these organization hostage, like you 152 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: better give us some money. 153 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: We need somebody to bail out some people, and they 154 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: just do it well. 155 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 5: And look, we talked about in the wake of October seventh, 156 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 5: how black lives matter, how the Chicago chapter put out 157 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 5: a tweet praising h Hama saying we stand with Palestine 158 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 5: and and and having a a picture of a paraglider. 159 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 5: Remember it was a paragliders that came in that the 160 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 5: Hamas terrorists used to murder young people in Israel, and 161 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 5: and and the cultural Marxist they support each other, and 162 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 5: and and and we're seeing that. Look on Columbia, it's 163 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 5: not just the students that are facing threats of violence, 164 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 5: it's the faculty too. So a Columbia professor, Shi David 165 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 5: I wanted to go and we talked about this on 166 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 5: on on Monday's pod that he he intended to go 167 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 5: and and be right among these protesters and stand up 168 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 5: for Israel. And what Colombia did. They revoked his past 169 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 5: to campus. They they zeroed out his access and blocked him. 170 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 5: This is the administration of Columbia. They decided between a 171 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 5: professor on their faculty who happened to be Jewish or 172 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 5: the anti Semitic protesters who are threatening violence, that the 173 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 5: problem was the professor who dared to be Jewish. 174 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 8: You know. 175 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 5: One of the things that this professor, Davidai, tweeted out 176 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 5: he said, quote to all the journalists, I promise I 177 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 5: will try to get back to each and every one 178 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 5: of you. In the meantime, I want you to consider this. 179 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 5: To the best of my knowledge, the last time that 180 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 5: a professor was denied access to their own university for 181 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 5: being Jewish was Nazi Germany. Well, actually that's not accurate, 182 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 5: because we covered on this podcast how USC did that 183 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 5: to a USC professor where they ordered him to stay 184 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 5: at home and teach from home for precisely the same reason, 185 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 5: because anti Israel protesters were threatening violence and they decided 186 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 5: not to protect him but instead to stand with the protesters. 187 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,359 Speaker 2: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, 188 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: you can go back and listen to the full podcast 189 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two. Senator, 190 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: if you are at MPR, can you imagine, if you 191 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: are lefty lefty, how much freedom I think it would 192 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 2: make you feel like you had to then go out 193 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: there and continue to push propaganda on the American people. 194 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 2: If this is your CEO, I mean, it's a license 195 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: to basically go all in on liberal propaganda at the 196 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: taxpayer's expense. 197 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 5: Now, that is exactly right, And I've got to say listen. 198 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 5: As you know, I'm the ranking member on the Senate 199 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 5: Committee of Commerce, Science, and Transportation, and part of my 200 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 5: responsibility in that role, we've got jurisdiction over about forty 201 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 5: percent of the US economy, and part of my responsibility 202 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 5: is oversighted. I can tell you that I am actively 203 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 5: engaging in oversight right now, calling on NPR to explain, 204 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 5: to explain why they're willing to put in place a 205 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 5: hard left wing activist, not a neutral journalist, but someone 206 00:11:55,320 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 5: who is biased, who is who is an active supporter 207 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 5: of censorship, to violence, to silence the views she disagrees with. 208 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 5: Why NPR believes that that is an appropriate leader for 209 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 5: their institution. 210 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really great point. 211 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 5: And listen, don't necessarily take our words for it. I 212 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 5: want you to listen to Katherine Maher in her own 213 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 5: words because it's going to show just how radical she is. 214 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 8: And I want to play a couple of clips. 215 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 5: Let's start with her explaining that in her view, the 216 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 5: number one challenge that she faces is the First Amendment 217 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 5: of the Constitution. 218 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 8: Let's play that clip. 219 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 9: The number one challenge here that we see is, of course, 220 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 9: the First Amendment in the United States is a fairly 221 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 9: robust protection of rights. And that is a protection of 222 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 9: rights both for platforms, which I actually think is very 223 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 9: important that platforms have those rights to be able to 224 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 9: regulate what kind of content they want on their sites, 225 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 9: but it also means that it is a little bit 226 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 9: tricky to really address some of the real challenges of 227 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 9: where does bad information come from and sort of the 228 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 9: influence peddlers who have made a real market economy around it. 229 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: I mean, it's amazing. Center. 230 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: This is the woman running MPR, and I guess this 231 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 2: is almost like the best thing you can put on 232 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 2: your resume, right, You're like, hey, I think the First 233 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: Amendment's a real problem. 234 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: It's like perfect, We'd love to hire you at MPR. 235 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, and she actually says, well, the First Amendment is 236 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 5: really important for platforms. But then what she describes as 237 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 5: their First Amendment right is for their ability to censor 238 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 5: and silence things they disagree with. So to her mind, 239 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 5: what she cares about is the ability if there's a 240 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 5: view that is right a center, as far as she's concerned, 241 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 5: the First Amendment is all about silencing those views, there 242 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 5: can be no dissent. 243 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: All right. 244 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,599 Speaker 5: I want you to listen to another clip. This is 245 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 5: a Ted talk where she's discussing truth when she was 246 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 5: at Wikipedia, and somehow she has a different view of 247 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 5: truth than I think you and I might have. 248 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 8: Give a listen. 249 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 4: But the hard things, the places where we are prone 250 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 4: to disagreement, say politics and religion. Well, as it turns out, 251 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 4: not only does Wekipedia's model work there, it actually works 252 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 4: really well because in our normal lives, these contentious conversations 253 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 4: tend to erupt or disagreement about what the truth actually is. 254 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 4: But the people who write these articles, they're not focused 255 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 4: on the truth. They're focused on something else, which is 256 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 4: the best of what we can know right now. And 257 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 4: after seven years of working with these brilliant folks, I've 258 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 4: come to believe that they are onto something that perhaps, 259 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 4: for our most tricky disagreements, seeking the truth and seeking 260 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 4: to convince others of the truth might not be the 261 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 4: right place to start. In fact, our reverence for the 262 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 4: truth might be a distraction that's getting in the way 263 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 4: of finding common ground and getting things done. Now, that 264 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 4: is not to say that the truth does and exist, 265 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 4: nor is it to say that the truth isn't important. Clearly, 266 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 4: the search for the truth has led us to do 267 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 4: great things, to learn great things. But I think if 268 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 4: I were to really ask you to think about this, 269 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 4: one of the things that we could all acknowledge is 270 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 4: that part of the reason we have such glorious chronicles 271 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 4: to the human experience in all forms of culture is 272 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 4: because we acknowledge there are many different truths. And so 273 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 4: in the spirit of that, I'm certain that the truth 274 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 4: exists for you and probably for the person sitting next 275 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 4: to you. But this may not be the same truth. 276 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 4: This is because the truth of the matter is very 277 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 4: often for many people. What happens when we merge facts 278 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 4: about the world with our beliefs about the world, So 279 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 4: we all have different truths. They're based on things like 280 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 4: where we come from, how we were raised, and how 281 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 4: other people perceive us. 282 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 5: What utter garbage? Like every word of that. You want 283 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 5: an indictment of the modern left. You want an indictment 284 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 5: of the idiocy of media. You want an indictment of 285 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 5: the academic world. You want an indictment of big tech. 286 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 5: Good God, what utter garbage? Truth doesn't exist? George or 287 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 5: Well is spinning in his grave and laughing at the 288 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 5: same time. Two plus two doesn't equal four, It equals 289 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 5: five because we say it is there is no truth. 290 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 5: Listen to that quote. Our reverence for the truth might 291 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 5: be a distraction that's getting in the way of finding 292 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 5: common ground and getting things done. 293 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 8: But don't worry. 294 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 5: This is only for things that don't matter, the contentious issues. 295 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 5: What does she identify politics and religion? When it comes 296 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 5: to politics and religion, look, Jesus Christ said, I am 297 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 5: the way the truth in the life. But no, no, no, no, no, 298 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 5: no no, don't have reverence for truth. We're not interested 299 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 5: in that. We are interested in set aside of truth. 300 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 5: That can be your truth, my truth. Everyone has a truth. 301 00:16:55,000 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 5: Maybe for you, two plus two is five? What utter garbage? 302 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 5: Do you know what a journalists supposed to be interested 303 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 5: in the truth? 304 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 8: Now? Do you have perfect truth? 305 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 9: No? 306 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 8: Do you have perfect knowledge? 307 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 4: No? 308 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 5: But you should get damn close to it. You should 309 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 5: be trying to get to the truth. Remember what journalists 310 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 5: used to learn? 311 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 7: Who? 312 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:11,959 Speaker 6: What? 313 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 8: When? Where? 314 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 9: How? 315 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 8: Why? 316 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 9: Like? 317 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 8: What happened? What are the facts? Well? 318 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 5: No, no, no, not according to her. According to to her, 319 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 5: there are no facts. There is no truth. It's your truth. 320 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 5: It's my truth, and my truth. From Catherine Marr's perspective 321 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 5: is as a left wing partisan, whatever the orthodoxy is, 322 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 5: and we will silence views that disagree. And the First 323 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 5: Amendment is a pesky pesky barrier. All right, I want 324 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 5: to play one more clip. Yeah, one more clip where 325 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 5: she's describing what she did at Wikipedia. Listen to this 326 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 5: third clip. 327 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 9: I started by talking about the idea of free and 328 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 9: open as some of our founding principles sort of free 329 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 9: and open source coming from me to the open source community. Well, 330 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 9: I have come to the opinion and the perspective that 331 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 9: free and open was a way of looking at the 332 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 9: world that was inherently limited relative to what we were 333 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 9: trying to achieve. Free and open has the best of intentionality, 334 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 9: but in the end, what free and open often ended 335 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 9: up doing, and particularly in the case of Wikipedia, was 336 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 9: really recapitulating many of the same power structures and dynamics 337 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 9: that exist offline prior to the advent of the Internet. 338 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 9: And so what we ended up seeing was Wikipedia really 339 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 9: rebuilt this idea of knowledge as a whole around what 340 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 9: the Western canon. You see the exclusion of communities of 341 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 9: languages because of the ways in which Wikipedia is based 342 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 9: on reliable sources. The idea of a written tradition is 343 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 9: something that is particular to many I mean not sorry, 344 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 9: the idea of a written tradition, which is particular to 345 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 9: some cultures and not to others. The ways in which 346 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 9: we I ascribe notability often really comes from sort of 347 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 9: this white male, westernized construct around who matters in societies 348 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 9: and who is elevated in whose voices, and so some 349 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 9: of these ideas of sort of this radical openness really 350 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 9: did not end up with the intention really did not 351 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 9: end up living into the intentionality of what openness can be. 352 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 5: I mean, that just is brilliant, right there, God bless So. 353 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 5: Look she's explaining at Wikipedia, they deliberately abandoned a quote 354 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 5: free and open approach. By the way she's telling you 355 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 5: what she's going to do at NPR. NPR is not 356 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 5: going to be free and open, according to her, because 357 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 5: she doesn't believe in free and open. Why because free 358 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 5: and open number one, she says, Well, that advantages cultures 359 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 5: that believe in the written word, because you know, what 360 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 5: good has book learning ever done anyone? Well, heck, you're 361 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,479 Speaker 5: forgetting those cultures that don't believe in that fancy learning 362 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 5: stuff like what utter garbage. I'm sorry, I thought, actually 363 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 5: a journalistic outfit should actually reflect celebrate the best of education, 364 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 5: of learning, of what we know. 365 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 8: But she says, no, no, no, no. 366 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 5: If it's actually free and open, it will recapitulate a 367 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 5: white male, westernized, westernized construct. Let me ask you something, Ben, 368 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 5: what the hell does that mean? Seriously? Those are the 369 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 5: words Marxist use, and typically the more syllables they use 370 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 5: when they get polysyllabic, the less they're making any sense. 371 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 5: So explain to me the phrase recapitulate a white male, 372 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 5: westernized construct that does not end up living into the 373 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 5: intentionality of what openness can mean. Those words have no 374 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 5: content other than I want the power to silence things 375 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 5: I don't like. 376 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 8: Am I wrong? 377 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: No, you're right. And my question goes back to this. 378 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: For you. 379 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: It used to be at MPR and others they would 380 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 2: at least fake it like their bias. Now it's just 381 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 2: flat out open and they're doing it with our tax tours. 382 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 2: Is there ever going to be a day of reckoning 383 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: where MPR finds out, hey, good luck your own thing, 384 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 2: because we're not going to pay for this propagana anymore. 385 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,239 Speaker 5: Look, if NPR cares at all about journalistic integrity, if 386 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 5: they care at all about continuing to receive taxpayer funds, 387 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 5: they should terminate Catherine Marr immediately. Her job should be done. 388 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 5: They should not have a rabid left wing partisan who 389 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 5: hates the First Amendment, who've used it as an inconvenience, 390 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 5: who wants to censor conservatives, who is actively explicitly and 391 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 5: unabashedly opposed to free and open communication, who doesn't believe 392 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 5: in truth, who believes truth is an impediment to what 393 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 5: she's doing. That is not a journalist in any way. 394 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 5: She ought to go and join Emily's list, she ought 395 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 5: to go and join the DNC. She got to go 396 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 5: run for Congress and become a henchman to Nancy Pelosi. 397 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 5: She should not actually be running a news organization, especially 398 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 5: not a news organization funded by the taxpayers. And if 399 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 5: we have to be honest, if you had a Democrat 400 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 5: who had a shred of integrity, they would say, of course, 401 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 5: this is not appropriate for her to run NPR. The 402 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 5: chances of that happening are zero. But I can tell 403 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 5: you I'm going to be pushing for accountability and I'm 404 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 5: going to be pushing for oversight of NPR because it 405 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 5: is brazenly shameless for them to put someone so wildly 406 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 5: unqualified in that position. 407 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: As before, if you want to hear the rest of 408 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: this conversation on this topic, you can go back and 409 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,239 Speaker 2: dow the podcasts from earlier this week to hear the 410 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: entire thing. I want to get back to the big 411 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: story number three of the week. You may have missed 412 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 2: younger voters, which Joe Biden desperately needs. Those thirty five 413 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 2: and under are he's at risk of them not showing up. 414 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: The ones that voted for him last time, if they 415 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 2: don't show up this time, can cost them the election. 416 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of pandering. 417 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 2: We've seen yet another round of Hey, I'm going to 418 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 2: pay off your student loans and I don't care how 419 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: many millions or billions it costs. 420 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: We're going to buy votes that way. 421 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 2: We also see him coming out and not making the 422 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 2: big statements to fitting Israel because the young people have 423 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 2: been in doctrine and this goes back to what we're 424 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 2: witnessing on college campuses. 425 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: They've been in doctrinated to hate Israel. 426 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: And so that's why I think we've seen the President 427 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 2: not say anything in a. 428 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: Real way publicly. 429 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 2: In fact, he's talked about what they've leaked from the 430 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 2: White House. Let's talk about the leaks over the last 431 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 2: two weeks. They claim that the first Lady told Joe 432 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 2: Biden to stop it, stop it now, referring to Israel's 433 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 2: attacks on the terrace, and that was leaked by senior staff. Obviously, 434 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 2: there's there's real leaks that are shocking, and then there's 435 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 2: leaks that you do on purpose to get a news 436 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 2: cycle that was clearly a purposeful leak. And then we 437 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 2: also had it coming out of the White House that 438 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 2: apparently the President in essence told Israel, hey, your Ian 439 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: dome worked. Take the win, right, don't retaliate against against 440 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 2: the people attacking you. Just be excited that you got 441 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 2: the win. If that's the messaging from the White House 442 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: when it comes to actual war, then it's very clear 443 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 2: this is all orchestrated as well. 444 00:23:55,480 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, understand, it's not just Israel that the angry left hates. 445 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 5: I want you to play a video of what happened 446 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 5: at Yale this weekend. And it's gonna be hard to 447 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 5: tell from the audio, but after you listen to the audio, 448 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 5: I'm gonna explain what you just listened to. 449 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 8: But but but play that audio. 450 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: Ben. 451 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 2: Senator, I wish people could see that video because if 452 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 2: you witness it, it's up on your on your Twitter 453 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 2: right now. 454 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 5: It will make you enraged at what they're cheering. Yeah, 455 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 5: you really need to see this video. So this occurred 456 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 5: on the Yale campus and they're chanting Viva Viva Palestina. 457 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 5: But what they're doing is they're pulling down the American 458 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 5: flag from a flagpole. And and by the way, the 459 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 5: image of the students strikingly the students, the Yale students 460 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 5: that are there, if any of them are Palestine, and 461 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 5: they don't appear to be. And there is in the 462 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 5: foreground of the image there is this young blonde kid 463 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 5: who appears to be just your typical woke leftist American, 464 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 5: although he's got short blonde hair and he's wearing a 465 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 5: Palestinian scarf. And as the American flag goes down, he 466 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 5: thrusts his fist in the air. And the cheering you 467 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 5: hear is when the flag goes all the way down 468 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 5: and hits the ground. These are Yale students cheering the 469 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 5: American flag being torn down. Play the audio again and 470 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 5: understand the cheering is when the American flag hits the ground. 471 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 8: Play the audio again. Ben. 472 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 2: You also see people that are smiling and in essence laughing, Senator, 473 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 2: like they can't believe this is happening on their campus 474 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: and enjoying the moment. They've been camping out there. But 475 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 2: this is at Yale. And if you see this at 476 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 2: Yale and you realize Yale is allowing this to happen, 477 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 2: the question is why on earth would you send your 478 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 2: kid to Yale and go half million dollars or more 479 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 2: into into debt, or have to pay that money for 480 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,959 Speaker 2: your kids to be indoctrinated at a place that is 481 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: clearly not coming down hard on these actions. 482 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 5: Now, look that that is exactly right, and it's because 483 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 5: the Yale administrators are terrified to engage with against the 484 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 5: left because they support the views of the left. I'll 485 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 5: tell you something else that was tweeted. There's a story 486 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 5: in the Free Beacon. The Dean of students of Northwestern 487 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 5: attended a protest targeting the campus Jewish Community Center. So 488 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 5: the Dean of students went to a rally where protesters 489 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,959 Speaker 5: said the school quote weaponizes anti Semitism to silence pro 490 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 5: Palestinian actor, and let me read you that article. The 491 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 5: Dean of students at Northwestern University attended an anti Israel 492 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 5: protest this week targeting Hillel, the school's Jewish student community center, 493 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 5: to defend the demonstrator's quote right. 494 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 8: To free speech. 495 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 5: Dean of Students Monadugo said she showed up at the 496 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 5: rally on Monday to support anti Israel's activists quote right 497 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 5: to protest and to protect the right to free speech. 498 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 5: According to The Daily Northwestern. Protest organizers demanded that the 499 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 5: university end its relationship with Hillel, a one hundred year 500 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 5: old nonprofit group that operates Jewish community centers on campuses 501 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 5: around the world, including Northwestern. The protest took place during 502 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 5: Northwestern's Admitted Students Day, which seeks to introduce incoming students 503 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 5: to campus life. So imagine you are Jewish students coming going. 504 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 5: Oh great, this is a welcoming place for me. 505 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 8: Quote. 506 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 5: Hillel is one of the many places in which this 507 00:27:53,440 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 5: university is complicit in infusing Jewishness with Zionism, said one 508 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 5: protest organizer in a speech at the rally. A leaflet 509 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 5: handed out by protesters accused Northwestern of quote funneling Jewish 510 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 5: students into Hillel, the Zionist Foundation for Jewish Life. It 511 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 5: also claimed the school quote weaponizes claims of anti Semitism 512 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 5: on campus to silence pro Palestinian activism. This is the 513 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 5: Dean of students, now, I will say. After this became public, Northwestern, 514 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 5: at least to their credit, they put out a statement 515 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 5: claiming the Dean of students goes to every protest to 516 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 5: make sure there's not violence. Maybe it sure doesn't sound 517 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 5: like that from the article that was printed in the 518 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 5: campus paper. But I'm at least glad they're feeling the 519 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 5: need to try to explain it. I suppose that is 520 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 5: marginally better then saying, yep, that's where we stand. 521 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 2: It's American college campuses, and it's all coming and being organized, 522 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 2: as you mentioned earlier, by the left. And if you 523 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 2: look at this, you go back to what you said 524 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 2: at the beginning about how important is to follow the money. 525 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 2: Why is it that when it comes to these issues, 526 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 2: And I'm going to answer my own question here, but 527 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 2: it's like the media doesn't exist when it comes to 528 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 2: investigative reporting. I would assume the media could figure it 529 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 2: out pretty darn quickly, Senator. Who's paying for this, who's 530 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 2: organizing it, who's behind it, where the money is originating from. 531 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: Not as single story is being written about it, though. 532 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 5: No, because they don't care. Because the media is ultimately 533 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 5: supportive of these goals. They're not they're not covering it. 534 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 5: By the way, I will give some credit, and this 535 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 5: is something painful for me to do, but I'm gonna 536 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 5: give a little bit of credit to see it in. 537 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 5: You know, who's been most vocal speaking out on this. 538 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 2: CNN has had a lot of coverage that you're You're correct, 539 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 2: especially this past weekend. 540 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,479 Speaker 5: And Jake Tapper in particular, and listen, I've been very 541 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 5: critical of Jake. You and I both know Jake very well, 542 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 5: but on this issue, Jake, Jake Tapper has been the 543 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 5: single most outspoken major media figure and I'm gonna give 544 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 5: them credit for that because his colleagues and his colleagues 545 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 5: at other networks and newspapers should do the same. 546 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: Senator, last question for you on this one. 547 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 2: If we do find out that these organizations that are 548 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 2: backing and clearly growing, these these anti Semitic protests are 549 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 2: directly connected to Democratic donors, Democratic Party Party, what are 550 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 2: the chances that the media covers it or what do 551 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 2: you bet we're the only ones people hear about it 552 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 2: from zero? 553 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 5: The media won't cover that. They have no interest in 554 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 5: it whatsoever. They have no interest in who's promoting this, 555 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 5: who's funding it, who's paying people. Listen, Ben, as you know, 556 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 5: I have had anti Israel Prohamas protesters at my home 557 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 5: every Saturday morning for over three months now. It's the 558 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 5: same group of about fifteen people. They're clearly being paid 559 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 5: by somebody. Nobody cares who's paying them. Somebody is paying 560 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 5: them to and they're doing this at the homes of 561 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 5: other people as well, other elected officials as well. This 562 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 5: is a concerted effort. But do you know where this 563 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 5: ends up? 564 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: Where is that? 565 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 5: If you want to see where this ends up, take 566 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 5: a look at Europe. Sadly, Europe has for a long time, 567 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 5: for centuries, been on the cutting edge of anti Semitism, 568 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 5: and you can look to Europe to see perhaps the 569 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 5: next step of where these college campuses are. This weekend, 570 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 5: the London police threatened to arrest a man for being 571 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 5: quote openly Jewish, and I want to read from a 572 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 5: post that Jonathan Turley put up this weekend quote the 573 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 5: London police are under fire this week for threatening to 574 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 5: arrest aman wearing a kipa near the near a pro 575 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 5: Palestinian march. Officers inform Gideon Falter, head of the Campaign 576 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 5: Against Anti Semitism watchdog, that he was quote antagonizing the 577 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 5: protess by being quote openly Jewish near such a march. 578 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 5: He was told that if he tried to cross the 579 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 5: street while being quote openly Jewish, he would be arrested 580 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 5: for breach of the peace in the video police officer. 581 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 5: One police officer said, quote, you are quite openly Jewish. 582 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 5: This is a pro Palestinian march. I'm not accusing you 583 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 5: of anything, but I'm worried about the reaction to your presence. 584 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 5: Another officer then adds later, quote, you will be escorted 585 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 5: out of this area so you can go about your business, 586 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 5: go where you want freely, or if you choose to 587 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 5: remain here because you are causing a breach of peace 588 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 5: with all these other people, you will be arrested. Now. 589 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 5: I want you to pause and reflect on that in London, 590 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 5: it is now an arrestable offense according to police, to 591 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 5: be openly Jewish, to wear a yamica. 592 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 8: You're the one. 593 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 5: If you are simply Jewish and and acknowledge your Jewish 594 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 5: heritage and and don't hide it, that is grounds for 595 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 5: being arrested in London. That's where this heads. That is 596 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 5: the fruit of the cultural Marxist leftist ideology. That is 597 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 5: the fruit of the anti Semitism infusing our universities. 598 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 2: As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Center, 599 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 2: Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to deal 600 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 2: with my podcast and you can listen to my podcast 601 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 2: every other day you're not listening to Verdict, or each 602 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 2: day when you listen to Verdict. Afterwards, I'd love to 603 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 2: have you as a listener to again the Ben Ferguson podcasts, 604 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 2: and we will see you back here on Monday morning.