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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? John Middlecock Three and Out podcast,

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Speaker 1: Rocking and Rolling preseason games. I'm recording this actually before

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Speaker 1: the preseason games. Actually, I think the Patriot games on

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Speaker 1: like ten minutes. I have the Yankee game on TV

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Speaker 1: right now. They're playing in the Field of Dreams. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna lie. It's pretty badass. I didn't I haven't

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Speaker 1: played little little league. Was the last time I played baseball,

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Speaker 1: But I really like baseball. This is sweet like this.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much a ticket costs to get

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Speaker 1: to this game, but this would have been an incredible experience.

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Speaker 1: I know football's here, but if you like sports, just

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Speaker 1: seeing the visuals of this game in the corn fields

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Speaker 1: absolutely incredible. Talk about a career renaissance. Costner, who you know,

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Speaker 1: Yellowstone is just one of the weaker television shows going

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Speaker 1: and now he's hosting this. These guys walked out of

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Speaker 1: the cornfields. The two teams awesome, but football, and I

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Speaker 1: got a lot of football stuff to talk about. I

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Speaker 1: saw Brian day ball quote that I really think encapsulates

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Speaker 1: just the sport of football, and what's so special and

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Speaker 1: unique about this next Really, you know, the preseason, but

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Speaker 1: even the season and the intensity of making a team

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Speaker 1: and how hard it is. Cowboys have themselves a serious problem.

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Speaker 1: I'm no doctor, but and they can poo poo the

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Speaker 1: m R I all you want, Like something's up with Dac,

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Speaker 1: Like you need multiple m r s. We all watched

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks. Weird stuff man, that is, we're all red

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Speaker 1: flagging because if he ain't around, they got problems. And

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Speaker 1: then a lot of other stuff is going on around

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Speaker 1: the league that I'll hit. Um, I've been at forty

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Speaker 1: practice this week. It's just listen. I can't speak for

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Speaker 1: all the other practices. I guess I've I've seen three

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. They were the Eagles because that's where I

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Speaker 1: Niners over the years. I guess I've been to a

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Speaker 1: Titans practice a couple of years ago, but it was

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Speaker 1: o t a. Uh. It's just these guys are people

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Speaker 1: are ready to play another team. You know, you can

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Speaker 1: just feel it at practice, like you're kind of tired

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Speaker 1: of hitting your teammate. You know, Let's let's start playing

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Speaker 1: some other people. Let's get the pads popping. Now, if

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Speaker 1: you played for Sean McVeigh, uh, you sit and listen.

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Speaker 1: I come from the school of if I was in

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Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh or any of these coaches, I get the

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Speaker 1: old school mindset. I just there so much money on

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Speaker 1: the line, I would sit all my stars. But I'm

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Speaker 1: not a coach, um, so we'll dive into all that

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Speaker 1: as well. Leave a review on the three and Out

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Speaker 1: podcast Apple iTunes. Greatly appreciate it. Also, if you subscribe

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Speaker 1: Subscribe to that bad Boy as well. And I wanted

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Speaker 1: to start with this Brian dave Ball vote that I

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Speaker 1: I ran into on Twitter. It wasn't a quote, it

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Speaker 1: was an article written. I'm sorry. I don't know who

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Speaker 1: wrote the article. I just got a screenshot of it.

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Speaker 1: And Brian Daball addressed the team as a lot of

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Speaker 1: And this what Brian day Ball addressing the team was

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Speaker 1: Dabele said. Every coach in the room sat. Then day

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Speaker 1: dabl said. And suddenly the only person in the room

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Speaker 1: every single one. And it's a humbling league. And we

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Speaker 1: Allen just got a hundred fifty million dollars. Well, his

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Speaker 1: But when you hear Coster talk, he's like just kind

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Speaker 1: the history of the forty Niners. The interest for this

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Speaker 1: the time, when you put these players in positions just

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Speaker 1: to talk, You're like, God, guy sounds like pretty nice.

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Speaker 1: of enlightening. Um cable is so screwed, like Basic cable.

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Speaker 1: his doctor when he said Drew Brees is not gonna

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Speaker 1: be healthy. He had to leave the NFL because you

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Speaker 1: don't get the quarterback right. No matter your defense is good,

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Speaker 1: your offense is good, your wide receivers are good. If

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Speaker 1: your quarterback is not good, it does not matter. It's

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Speaker 1: just that simple. That's just the name of the game.

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer, I just don't quite understand this. Like this

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Speaker 1: isn't college, man. You drafted this guy number one overall.

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Speaker 1: You're paying him thirty five million dollars guaranteed, Like you

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Speaker 1: just name him the starter, like Trevor Lawrence, you're starting quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He refuses the name and starting quarterback, which I understand

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Speaker 1: in college, right if you're coaching Ohio State, you're coaching

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Speaker 1: at Florida, you don't. You've never had a starter before,

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Speaker 1: you have multiple guys battle for the job. I completely

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Speaker 1: get it, But it's like, what are we talking about?

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Speaker 1: Your your team is not gonna be that good. You

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Speaker 1: have the number one overall pick on the guy that

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Speaker 1: was anointed the next Andrew Luck four years ago. Just

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Speaker 1: name him the fucking starting quarterback. I I think, minshow's fine,

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Speaker 1: But what are we talking about here? Man? Why is

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Speaker 1: it always so difficult? You know, it's just it's just

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Speaker 1: not that complicated, right, Just he's the starting court. Just

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Speaker 1: say it. You won't kill anybody, You won't give some

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Speaker 1: team big advantage or disadvantage. Just say it. That just

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Speaker 1: that that type stuff is just what a waste of

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Speaker 1: your energy. The Houston Texans like Nickissario, to me, reminds

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Speaker 1: me a lot of Patricia Mangini. They just think they

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Speaker 1: can be the belichickie and asshole. And it works for

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Speaker 1: Bill and it worked for Parcels. They had rings on

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Speaker 1: their fingers, they had equity because Sario, I saw someone

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Speaker 1: tweet this the other day. They're like the last two

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Speaker 1: g MS with the Texans, Rick Smith, who was there

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Speaker 1: before I think with Kubiak, and then obviously Bill O'Brien

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Speaker 1: when he watched practice, he used to stand behind the defense.

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Speaker 1: I think he was a defensive player. It might have

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Speaker 1: been a corner or something safety. And if you when

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Speaker 1: I go to Niner practice, John Lynch stands behind the

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Speaker 1: defense too. It's they're comfortable there. That's GM's usually stand

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Speaker 1: on the behind the offense or the defense, but usually

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Speaker 1: behind the defense because the coaching staff behind the offense

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Speaker 1: or on the sideline, and then someone they wrote Rick

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Speaker 1: Smith's stood behind the defense, the GM that lasted a

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Speaker 1: year before Billy O fired him, stood on the sideline,

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Speaker 1: and they say Cassario stands with the coaches and is

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Speaker 1: constantly talking to the coaches because you know why, he

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Speaker 1: kind of weird role in New England. That ain't gonna work.

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Speaker 1: This is not baseball. You cannot run the sport for

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Speaker 1: him being a g M. And the story that came

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Speaker 1: out is a little inside football. When it's quote unquote

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Speaker 1: called training camp, the media is allowed to watch the

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Speaker 1: entire practice. Save is true for O T A s

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Speaker 1: and veteran mini camps start to finish. You can come

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Speaker 1: out there right when the players come out and you

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Speaker 1: can watch till the final whistle. When training camp ends,

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Speaker 1: all the way until the end of the season, the

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Speaker 1: media has only allowed fifteen minutes at practice. So Cassario

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Speaker 1: went to the NFL and wanted to end there a

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Speaker 1: training camp quote unquote early, like five or six days early.

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Speaker 1: So basically kicked the media out. The NFL, which is

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Speaker 1: in the business of, I don't know, printing money, because

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Speaker 1: when you allow the media there, you get people talking.

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Speaker 1: It gets the vibe. Is why the NFL, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: is the biggest sport in America told him to kick rocks.

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Speaker 1: No chance, you can't do that. And a big thing

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Speaker 1: with Cassario is like, and listen, it's not all of

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Speaker 1: his fault. De Sean wattson the massage therapist coming out

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Speaker 1: to practice. It's weird. It's a bizarre situation. But just

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Speaker 1: thinking like that to me has I'm red flagging you, Like,

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Speaker 1: who do you think you are? One? You're the most

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Speaker 1: irrelevant team in the league right now. Until you think

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Speaker 1: the NFL is just gonna let you do random things,

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Speaker 1: what world do you live in? I have a hard

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Speaker 1: time thinking that, Cassario, because this situation is gonna be ugly.

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Speaker 1: This team is going to suck, and I think sometimes

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Speaker 1: when you're really gonna suck, you need kind of a

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Speaker 1: special personality. Either you're like you're that former player and

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Speaker 1: you can see the big picture, like like a Ron

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Speaker 1: Rivera type, or you're just like a positive guy like

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Speaker 1: an Andy Reid or like a younger Sean Payton, like

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Speaker 1: a big pire. I just don't see this with Casserio.

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Speaker 1: I I just I think it's gonna be difficult, man,

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Speaker 1: I I really do. Uh. Justin feel is scheduled to

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Speaker 1: play a lot. I can't wait if you have to

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Speaker 1: ask me the number one guy I'm excited to watch

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Speaker 1: preseason and as you know, I'm not a big preseason guy.

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields is gonna play the majority of the game now,

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Speaker 1: he said, maybe even in the fourth quarter. I know

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Speaker 1: Trey Lance is gonna play the entire half. I'm excited

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Speaker 1: to watch those two guys play. Like Cam Newton is

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Speaker 1: still in the game looking up at the television, like

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones does nothing for me, Like once I finished

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Speaker 1: recording this, I'm going to the gym. I'm not. I'm

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Speaker 1: not watching Matt Jones play a preseason game, Justin Fields,

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Speaker 1: Trey Lance. I'm in Trevor Lawrence, Zack Wilson. Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: in hell toa look back to toa like what's he

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Speaker 1: looking like? Alex Smith joined ESPN. I don't love the fit.

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Speaker 1: Like to me, Alex, I think he would have been

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Speaker 1: a good fit, like NBC, like Sunday Night Football in

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Speaker 1: the studio, like get rid of Tony Dungee. Listen Tony Dungee,

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Speaker 1: fantastic human being, awesome guy, way better human Like I

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Speaker 1: can't like I'm a I don't know a tenth of

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Speaker 1: him as a human being, Like he is an elite human,

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Speaker 1: great guy. I just I don't need him on television.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't say anything putting people on television, Like, you

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Speaker 1: gotta have some personality is the entertainment. You can't just

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Speaker 1: have a guy says nothing. I don't know if Alex necessarily,

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Speaker 1: but just give me some new blood. That's my issue

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Speaker 1: with Drew Brees. I think Drew Brees, like Tony Dungee,

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Speaker 1: fantastic human being. Is he really gonna say something you know,

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Speaker 1: would be more entertaining. Give me some guy that's like

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Speaker 1: just gonna tell it like it is. Maybe talk a

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Speaker 1: little ship. Put out Joe Sinko in there, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: that was a terrible play. That was awful. You know

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Speaker 1: why TNT with Chuck has been the number one, you know,

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Speaker 1: postgame show and pregame show and like the history of

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Speaker 1: pro sports because they will they will criticize people. These

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Speaker 1: other people they don't criticize, They don't say anything, and

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Speaker 1: you can say, oh, Chuck says just madness too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's entertaining. That's what we're trying to get out of

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Speaker 1: these television shows. Entertainment, No put me to sleep. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's go a little Middlecoff mail bag at John Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: is the the Instagram you fire up in the d

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Speaker 1: m s and you get questions to answer here on

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Speaker 1: the show from Nick, longtime listener. My question, what do

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Speaker 1: you think about the current Jamal Adams holdout? He wants

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Speaker 1: to be paid like a defensive lineman, linebacker in excess

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Speaker 1: of twenty million dollars a year. Do you think he

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Speaker 1: deserves it? Why or why not? Also if you could

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Speaker 1: weigh in on Duane Brown as well well. My biggest

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Speaker 1: issue with Seattle and I think John Schneider is good.

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Speaker 1: When you trade two ones and a two. You have

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Speaker 1: to have a contract downe with Jamal Adams then because

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Speaker 1: you have to avoid this situation. And I do understand

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Speaker 1: where Jamal is coming from. He was their best pass

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Speaker 1: rusher last year. The problem is for safety to get

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Speaker 1: paid huge money like I need you to cover and

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Speaker 1: as we know, he's not a cover player, but he's

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Speaker 1: an incredible blitzer. He's an unreal open field tackler and

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Speaker 1: a great run game player. But remember last year week

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Speaker 1: to playing uh playing New England, Julian Edelman had like

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Speaker 1: two hundred fifty yards. Julian Edelman's out of the league.

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Speaker 1: He had to retire. He can't cover people. I think

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Speaker 1: it's a complicated situation. But Seattle is already into deep

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Speaker 1: What are they gonna do now? Twenty million dollars? Like,

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Speaker 1: aren't they offering him seventeen and a half? And the

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Speaker 1: next highest paid safety the Broncos, guy Simmons, makes fifteen? Like, Bro,

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Speaker 1: you're the highest paid safety in the league. Duane Brown,

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Speaker 1: Like he's there left tackle. They I don't think either

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Speaker 1: of these guys are practicing. I don't. I don't quite

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Speaker 1: understand what Seattle is trying to do here, Like how

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Speaker 1: do you get these situations? Like what are you gonna

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Speaker 1: hardball him? What's the season? Like? You need these guys?

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Speaker 1: You need him to practice. So I I think it's

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Speaker 1: a problem. Now. I don't think that like either of them,

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Speaker 1: you know, is going to uh not play. But it's

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Speaker 1: not an ideal situation. Minnesota guy here, you're one of

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Speaker 1: the few people in the media that respects Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 1: and doesn't take the easy route and shoot on them well,

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Speaker 1: because e through thirty six or thirty seven touchdowns last

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Speaker 1: year is a good player. With that being said, if

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Speaker 1: Zimmer turns the defense around this year with young guys

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Speaker 1: continuing to get better, what do you think a realistic

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Speaker 1: expectation for the bikers is love the pod only one

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Speaker 1: of five pods and working a desk job. Appreciate it. Also,

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Speaker 1: when you talk business investments, real estate, it's always a joy.

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Speaker 1: My a d A Cordono, the one crypto that I own,

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Speaker 1: and I own a decent amount of coins, has had

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Speaker 1: a good week, not gonna lie. My other stocks not

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Speaker 1: a great week. So you just you know, that's why

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Speaker 1: you diversify, because you can lose ten grand and one

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Speaker 1: thing and you can make you know, ten and the

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Speaker 1: other one thing. You in the stock market, I think

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Speaker 1: you can become numb too. If you would have told

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Speaker 1: me like five years ago, yeah, you're just gonna have

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Speaker 1: days where you just learn lose five figures unpaid her,

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Speaker 1: I mean I would have had a heart attack, and

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Speaker 1: you just it happens enough, you know, you just become

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Speaker 1: numb to it. But then you also have a day

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Speaker 1: when til ray the weed stock that I own the Reddit.

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Speaker 1: Guys took it and they took that bad boy for

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Speaker 1: a ride, and that was incredible. See just paper, paper

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Speaker 1: wins and paper losses. Uh, don't face you as much

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Speaker 1: as as real as real losses. My thing with Kirk

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Speaker 1: Cousins here. You know the problem for Kirk Cousins. When

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Speaker 1: you don't get vaccinated in the league, you get tested

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Speaker 1: every day. Like what if he just even if he's asymptomatic,

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Speaker 1: what if he tests positive? Is Kirk Cousin is gonna

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Speaker 1: miss a game or two during the season get tested

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Speaker 1: every single day. If you're vaxed, you don't get tested.

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Speaker 1: So even if you're asymptomatic and you haven't, no one

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Speaker 1: even knows Cousins, Like it's unavoidable. He's getting a swab.

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Speaker 1: He's getting the swab every day. If he missed the game,

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Speaker 1: they'll lose because they need him to be good just

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Speaker 1: for them to win. Like you said, their defense needs

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Speaker 1: to bounced back. I think they should be a French

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Speaker 1: playoff team. Be look at the playoff teams. I think

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Speaker 1: the three teams in the NFC West could all make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. I mean the Rams and Seattle basically make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Every year. I think the Niners just being

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Speaker 1: at the practice are good. Uh, you know, the Bucks

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Speaker 1: are good. The NFC East kind of sucks, and then

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Speaker 1: the NFC North, you know them and the Packers, unless

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields is a badass, which could be. I still

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Speaker 1: don't understand how Justin Fields got drafted twelve. Justin Fields

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Speaker 1: got drafted twelve six three runs a four four, led

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Speaker 1: his team to a national championship, has a huge arm.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man. I don't claim to be you know,

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Speaker 1: Bill Paulian here, but I think I have a pretty

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Speaker 1: good idea. I don't get that. I really don't. Just

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Speaker 1: started listening. I'm a Fresnel guy who was born in

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, so I consider you kind of in my backyard.

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Speaker 1: Cal Poli, Fresnel State, My man. Question, We're seeing many

638
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks from small schools play really well in the NFL.

639
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: What are these Power five scouts missing? Josh Allen famously

640
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: is from Fireball and Fresno State didn't even sniff him.

641
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: He had to go to Reedley College and then Wyoming.

642
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: Then they'd have had been two of the five draft

643
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Speaker 1: picks from North Dakota State in the last five years.

644
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: Derek Carr from Fresnol State, Jimmy g Eastern Illinois. I'm

645
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: trying to think of the recent guys from the Pack twelve,

646
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: Mariotta bust Golf looking like a bust Rose and Bust

647
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: Donald trending down. Why are these small school guys doing

648
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: well and big guys struggling. It's a great question. I

649
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: I I think sometimes like Josh Allen easily should have

650
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: been at a Pack twelve school, like he couldn't have

651
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Speaker 1: played it, Oregon State, Arizona State. I was there when

652
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: Derek Carr was in Fresdo State, like Derreck Carr was

653
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Speaker 1: better than like every quarterback in the Pack twelve. Obviously

654
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz could have and Trey Lance Minnesota just didn't

655
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Speaker 1: offer him. So I just think, here's here's a simple

656
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Speaker 1: reality I gotta take for you. In college, the coaches

657
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: do all the recruiting in the NFL, scouts do. We're

658
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: not emotional about players. We just see big picture stuff.

659
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Speaker 1: So like I had a buddy who's now at a

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00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: Power five school who said he begged his offensive coordinator

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00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: to take Josh Allen and they wouldn't do it. The

662
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: scouting community has no juice in college football. So if

663
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Speaker 1: the coach doesn't like the guy, you're not signing the guy.

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Speaker 1: It's it's really that simple. Jimmy GE's probably, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean he was a pretty under the radar. Trey

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Speaker 1: Lance Beg Minnesota offer him, they said no. I don't

667
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Speaker 1: think it's necessarily a trend because I mean, Herbert's from Oregon, Burrow,

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Speaker 1: you know, l s U. Who are some other guys

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Speaker 1: justin Fields, Ohio State, Trevor Lawrence, Clemson. I just think

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Speaker 1: every players their own entity, and I think coaches miss.

671
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: I think it's really that simple. Coaches miss. Do you

672
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: think the Saints make the playoffs if Michael Thomas misses

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Speaker 1: most of the year. I have a hard time thinking that.

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Speaker 1: How are they gonna be good enough on offense with

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Speaker 1: Jamis So, I think it's gonna be tough. What would

676
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: it take for Green Bay to convince Aaron Rodgers to stay?

677
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: I just think I have another year like last year.

678
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: I think they win twelve fourteen games, make a playoff run.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you have to win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I think if he's good again m v P type season,

681
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Speaker 1: it doesn't get any better. He's a Green Bay Packer

682
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Speaker 1: starting quarterback. His team is elite. The division is not

683
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Speaker 1: that good. Like, Bro, you can win thirteen games, be

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Speaker 1: the Packers starting quarterback. They'll pay you forty five million

685
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Speaker 1: dollars a year. It's pretty good. Hey good, Akains. Just

686
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: kiss his ass a little bit. That's all he wants

687
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: for you to just kiss his ass. Ask him, Hey, Aaron,

688
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Speaker 1: pick two guys you know on the bubble. We'll let

689
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: you pick the players, Like, does it really matter if

690
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: those guys suck? Just cut them and just he will understand.

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00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: Maybe let him pick a couple of players when you

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Speaker 1: do the cutdown. So, Aaron, we're gonna let you pick

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Speaker 1: two players. Man roster. Here, here are ten guys on

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Speaker 1: the bubble. You pick two of the ten. Do something

695
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: like that. I'm dead serious. I would start kissing his ass.

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Speaker 1: That's what I would start doing. Just curious to hear

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Speaker 1: you give a deeper dive on how people become a

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Speaker 1: part of a front office in the NFL. What's their background?

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00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: Is it law, is it scouting? Is it business? Just

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00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: curious how exacts into those roles and what's their typical path.

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny is when I was getting into

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Speaker 1: the NFL. I used to read bios. I I think

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Speaker 1: the number one thing if you want to get into

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Speaker 1: a specific industry, especially something that is not like a

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Speaker 1: normal career path, like just to be like a junior

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Speaker 1: accountant or like a paralegal or something, but like a

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Speaker 1: business that would be like I want to work for

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00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: Goldman Sacks, I want to work as an NFL vice president.

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Speaker 1: Go read the bios of the people with those jobs,

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00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: and do you know what you learned? What I what

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00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: I learned years ago, decades ago. Everyone's past different. Some

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00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: guy Ozzy k Newsom played in the NFL. Some guys

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00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: ever played a snap of football. They went to law school.

714
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: Other guys worked in college football. Other guys good college player.

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Speaker 1: I saw Adam Peters, john Lynch's right hand guy today

716
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Speaker 1: at practice. He played at u c L a right

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Speaker 1: he never played in the pros, and he's been a

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Speaker 1: part of I think like four or five Super Bowl teams.

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Speaker 1: So it's just every guy has different paths Parrague, who

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Speaker 1: runs the Niners money and basically the York's business. He has,

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Speaker 1: you know, cal Stanford, guy like Howie Roseman Florida and

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Speaker 1: went to UH. I think UH what's the school in

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Speaker 1: New York. I can't even think of it. It's not hey,

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Speaker 1: uh something with an h uh some school in New

725
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Speaker 1: York and a lot degree. I worked for the Eagles

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00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: as a general manager ben for basically a decade, right

727
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Speaker 1: John Schneider. I don't even know John Snyder's background. But

728
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Speaker 1: every guy has a different path, so depending on what

729
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Speaker 1: you want to do. Al Guido, president of the Niners,

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00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: worked for Jerry Jones Company and they the Niners build

731
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Speaker 1: their stadium, and then through that he met Jed York.

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Speaker 1: Now he's the president of the four Niners. I think

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Speaker 1: you just look around whatever type role you want to

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Speaker 1: have to do, or even if you don't quite know,

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Speaker 1: because let's face, if you're a young guy, you might

736
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Speaker 1: not know. Hell I didn't know. Just start looking at

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00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: like five or six teams and pick like four or

738
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: five guys on their staff and just read their bio

739
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: on the internet, you know, on the team's website, and

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Speaker 1: I'll promise you this one thing. You'll find most guys

741
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: have different paths. So it shows you like you can

742
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: do like you can't just do nothing and make it there.

743
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: But there is no set path, like you don't have

744
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: to do this, this, and this to do that. Right.

745
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: Think about like Kyle Shanahan, his dad was Mike Shanahon.

746
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: But the reason he has a job because he knows

747
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 1: what he's doing. Sean McVeigh, I think he played at Ohio.

748
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: Now his grandpa was the Niners general manager La Flour.

749
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: Neither of those things got hired by Shanahan. Same with Salah. Right,

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00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: so you just one key. Here is my number one advice.

751
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: You got to meet a guy on the inside so

752
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 1: you realize your past are kind of irrelevant because everyone

753
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 1: is a different path. The only way in is knowing

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00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: someone on the inside. You know, It's like a like

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00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: a bank robbery movie. You know, typically in a good

756
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: bank robbery movie, the way they're able to rob the

757
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: bank or whatever the robbery is, they usually know a

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00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: guy on the inside that works for the company that

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00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 1: they're trying to rob, and he lets them know, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is what you need to do to

761
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: get inside this room. Without that, they could never rob

762
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: the bank, just like most people without an end, whether

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00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: it's a family member, which of us do not have

764
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: family members that worked in the NFL. But if you

765
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: can just organically meet someone that might mean in two

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Speaker 1: thoe linked in people often like middleclof how did you

767
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Speaker 1: land these sponsors? I don't know if sucking cold call people,

768
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Speaker 1: shoot people d m s LinkedIn like Hustle. It's it's

769
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: never been easier to get ahold of people. You don't

770
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: just have to call him. You know why, because if

771
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: I call him, I don't have your number, You're not

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00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: gonna pick up. But I can shoot you a LinkedIn

773
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: direct message. I can find you on Instagram. I can

774
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: shoot you direct message that way. I can find you

775
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 1: on Facebook. I can shoot you direct message that way.

776
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: It's actually never been easier than it is right now

777
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: to get ahold of whoever you want. Like if I

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Speaker 1: truly if I if the number one goal in my

779
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: life was to get a phone call with Jeff Bezos,

780
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: Like if I if I just really want to do

781
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: that for whatever reason, maybe had a business idea I

782
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: want to pitch him. I think I eventually could. It

783
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: would take me a lot of time and I would

784
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: waste a lot of time. I think I could find it.

785
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: But if I wanted to go like four rings below that,

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Speaker 1: like if I wanted to get a hold of the

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Speaker 1: president of the let's say Steven Jones. I think you

788
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: can hunt down Stephen Jones. It would be difficult, but

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's never been more possible to do

790
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: that stuff without even having to see him in person,

791
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: because you can just work the back channels of the Internet,

792
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: which has basically all these human beings on it. Stephens

793
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: maybe a bad example, but whoever the president of the

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00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: Cowboys is, which is probably also a Jones, So you

795
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: end up talking to one of the Jones. I loved

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Speaker 1: it in Hard Knocks. Jerry Jones was eating a breakfast sandwich.

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00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: There are just certain things in life, like whether you're

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Speaker 1: worth billions of dollars like Jerry, or whether you're listening

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Speaker 1: to this and you make fifty grand. Have you ever

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Speaker 1: met a man? I can't speak for women because breakfast taste.

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00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: You know, Stephen, girls up dated, been hit or miss.

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Speaker 1: Every guy I've ever met likes a good breakfast sandwich.

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00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: Breaksbury can be a little much, right, especially they put

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00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: potatoes in there. Can It can fill me up, you know,

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Speaker 1: for the entire day. But a breakfast sandwich. When I

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Speaker 1: saw him in that breakfast sandwich, I'm like, you know what,

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00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: most men are kind of similar. You know, we might

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Speaker 1: we might make you know, Jerry's worth billions. You know,

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Speaker 1: most of us are worth thousands. You know, if you're

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Speaker 1: doing well, you're worth hundreds of thousands. If you're doing

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Speaker 1: really well, maybe worth a couple of millions. Jerry's worth

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Speaker 1: billions of dollars. And that smile he got when he

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00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: put that soul on his breakfast sandwich looked like he

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Speaker 1: had a saw such egg cheese um made him very happy,

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00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: you know, because we all get very happy when we

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Speaker 1: eat a breakfast sandwich, something we all have in common.

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Speaker 1: So when you see the chaos on the internet about

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00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: everyone hates each other, which is I never believe most people,

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00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 1: you know, you see all this bitter reol and this

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00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: chaos on social media. I've said this for years. And

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Speaker 1: then you go into society. You just turn off your phone,

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Speaker 1: you go to the gym, or you go out to eat,

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00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: and like god, everyone's just kind of being friendly. Like

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00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: why everyone hates each other on the internet, But in

825
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: real life everyone's kind of nice even when things are

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Speaker 1: kind of weird. Uh, just finish hard knocks. And I

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Speaker 1: have some questions. First, did the Cowboys perfectly purposely make

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00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: sure Mike McCarthy wasn't shown hardly at all. Second, I

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00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: love how Jerry Jones said he'd do anything to win

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, but he will never do what he

831
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: should do and done years ago and let someone else

832
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: run the team. Finally, it seemed like the Cowboys camp

833
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: wasn't serious enough. Maybe it was how it was produced,

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00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: but players and coaches didn't seem locked in like in

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Speaker 1: past Hard Knocks. Uh, yeah, maybe you're I think it's

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Speaker 1: just this simple the Hard Knocks. I'm thirty six years old,

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Speaker 1: be thirty seven here soon sucks? You know, it's like

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00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 1: I used to It's crazy. Are you still getting older?

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Speaker 1: I'm sure anyone listening to this like once you get

840
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: in your thirties. The years ago by fast. Remember being

841
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: twenty I felt like I was like twenty six forever

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00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: because I was telling people. I just vividly remember telling

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00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: people six and that just lasted forever. I feel like

844
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: I was telling people I was thirty two, like fifteen

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00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: minutes ago. Now thirty seven. The hell are the years going? Uh?

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Speaker 1: I think with McCarthy, so I've been watching Hard Knocks.

847
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: Basically it's his entirety. Do you remember in the two

848
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 1: thousand's Hard Knocks, you would get like coaches meetings talking

849
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: shit about players. It was awesome, Like this guy sucks,

850
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 1: we need to get this guy more reps. Cut this guy.

851
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: It was very just raw and real. Now it's completely fake,

852
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: it's just completely manipulated. It is a puff piece. It

853
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 1: is you know, state run media is NFL run media.

854
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: That's all that is. So I just think the whole

855
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: thing kind of a joke. That's just that's how Hard

856
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: Knocks has been. Uh so, yeah, Jerry, but there their

857
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: team actually is not terrible. Seriously, to me, it's just

858
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 1: hard to tell. I thought the mojo thing was kind

859
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: of stupid, but it felt like the players liked it,

860
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: So who am I to say it's stupid. What does

861
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: Baker need to accomplish this year? If he wants to

862
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: get the same type money as Josh Allen contract extension,

863
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: he wants to se the franchise tag. I think it's

864
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: pretty simple. Just make a large playoff run. If he's

865
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: really good, throws touchdowns and they're in the a f

866
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: C Championship game, he's gonna get forty million dollars. If

867
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Speaker 1: he has a shitty year and they don't, they missed

868
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: the playoffs with this great roster, how could they give

869
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 1: him any money? I think Baker is a lot online.

870
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: I I really do, and you know he's gotta get

871
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: some money no matter what. But I couldn't pay him

872
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: forty three million dollars. And listen, I might have been

873
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: hard on him, right, I was really hard on him

874
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: early in his career. You put him in that you

875
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: know the Stuffan Ski who runs like basically the Shanahan system.

876
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: It's quarterback friendly, and he looked good, but I don't know, man,

877
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: can't he sustain it? John Dorsey's a really good GM scout, right.

878
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: I guess he's not a GM anymore. He's been fired,

879
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: but he really valued the stuff Baker had and he's

880
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: hit on a lot of picks in his life. So

881
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna try to act like I know more

882
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: football than John Dorsey. And he loved him. He was

883
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 1: he was worthy in a good quarterback draft to take

884
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: him number one overall. But physically he's not close to

885
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: his gift that is Josh Allen, Right, he's or Lamar Jackson. Now,

886
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: can in that offense with that roster? Can you pull

887
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: it off? I know, if you're a Browns fan, even

888
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: if you like Baker, I think we all realize, like,

889
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: if you're a Browns fan, that means you're more likely

890
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: Cleveland sports fan. Like you know what elite player looks

891
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: like his name is like Lebron James, right, even like Kyrie,

892
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: Like those are Max type guys, Myles Garrett, max type guy.

893
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: Do you watch Baker Mayfield if you're a Browns fan

894
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: and think like Max guy, that's a Max guy. If

895
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: you're an Indians fan, right, like you've had CC Sabathia,

896
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 1: you've had Lindor like you had, you've seen great players.

897
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: Is Baker a great players? He's just the best quarterback

898
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: you've had because you've had a bunch of bad quarterbacks.

899
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: And again, he maybe I'm I'm mighty, I'm fully acknowledging

900
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: I might being hard on him, Like I don't view

901
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: him as like a bottom ten quarterback, But is he

902
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: a top ten quarterback? Because I wanna base one forty

903
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: five million dollars, you better be a top ten quarterback. Hell,

904
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,479
Speaker 1: I thought Dak Prescott's like right, nine, ten, eleven somewhere

905
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: in there, and I don't even like paying him forty

906
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: So maybe my standards I was in an argument today

907
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: at Nighters practice. Argument would be strong, but talking at

908
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: Niners practice with Matt Mayoko, who votes for the Hall

909
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: of Fame, Josh Dubao who works for the AP, and

910
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: we're just talking Hall of Fame. And I got into

911
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: an argument on d MS the other day with a

912
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: guy that said John Lynch is not a Hall of Famer,

913
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: and I said, well, if Tim Brown's a Hall of Famer,

914
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: then John Lynch is a Hall of Famer. And he's like, well,

915
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: Tim Brown's way better than John Lynch. I said, well,

916
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 1: just look at their stats, and I don't. You can't compare.

917
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: He had a however, many touch downs. John Lynch is

918
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: a defensive player. They both went to nine Pro Bowls

919
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: and they both scored two touchdowns. He's like, well, he

920
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: scored all those touchdowns on shitty Raider teams. I'm like, well,

921
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: John Lynch was one of the best players on one

922
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: of the best defenses ever on a team with no offense.

923
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:18,479
Speaker 1: Now again, I like John Lynch. Uh, I'm I'm glad

924
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: he got in the Hall of Fame. Like it's good

925
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: for him. I'm not rooting for people not to get

926
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Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame personally, though, I think the

927
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame just started letting a lot of guys in,

928
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: fringe guys, and clearly he had to wait nine years.

929
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: Like to me, when I think Hall of Fame, like

930
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: I think Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Ray Lewis, Brett Farve,

931
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: like Michael Jordan's, I think the best of the best.

932
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Speaker 1: But that's not really what the Hall of Fame is anymore.

933
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Speaker 1: So I got no problem with John Lynching getting in,

934
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Speaker 1: just like I had no problem Tim Brown getting in.

935
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Speaker 1: But like once you started letting those type of guys in,

936
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Speaker 1: like it just opens the floodgates to more. Because we

937
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: were talking about Frank Gore. Is Frank Gora Hall of Famer?

938
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: Like that one's tough because he's gonna be the third

939
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: leading rusher in the history of the league, But he

940
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: was probably never a top three running back in his

941
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: career on a given season in the league, right Adrian Peterson,

942
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch like those guys to me, like Marshawn Lynch

943
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: will not have the stats Frank Gore has. But when

944
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: Marshawn's peak, for like four or five years, he was

945
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: top two running back in the league. He was better

946
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Speaker 1: player than Frank Gore, and I'm a Frank Gore guy,

947
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: but as he just was. So it's just the Hall

948
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: of Fame gets a complicated argument as a former scout,

949
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: who in your eyes are the top three GM personnel

950
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: executives in the league. Also, does Howie Roseman make the

951
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: top of your list? Why doesn't he invest in the linebackers?

952
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 1: Thanks for your time. Uh, you know it can change,

953
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 1: right because like people would say if I say John

954
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: Schneider and be like, oh, look at his roster and

955
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: be like, well, so you're telling me it's just Russell

956
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: Wilson that's the only reason they win. Now he plays

957
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: a big role, But John Schneider was the reason he's

958
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: on the team and they've made the playoffs basically like

959
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: eight out of the last nine years. Uh, Jason light

960
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: On an all time heater. And then he'd be like

961
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: they were not very good before they signed Tom Brady. Well,

962
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: look at last year. I mean their team is just stacked.

963
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: He hasn't missed on a draft pick in a long time,

964
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,919
Speaker 1: and they were in position to be a badass team

965
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: because the team he built around him. I was I

966
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: saw this argument the other day on Twitter, it was

967
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 1: like Chris Ballard's overrated. I'm like, is he? They won

968
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: eleven games last year the Indianapolis Colts with a washed

969
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: up Philip Rivers. How many teams in the league could

970
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: put Philip Rivers on their team last year that version

971
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: not peak Philip Rivers last year and win eleven games. Obviously,

972
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: quarterbacks the most important positions. So once you draft like

973
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen, your team is just gonna

974
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: be good. But what if you don't have a great quarterback?

975
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: Can you build just a good team? Right? Ballard does

976
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: like Ballard's team. Right? If I put Philip Rivers on

977
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: Seattle and I put Philip Rivers on the Colts, the

978
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: culture gonna be better. Seattle would not make the playoffs

979
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: in the a F or the NFC. So and I

980
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: think John Snyder is one of the best, But how

981
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: like and we can play it changes year to year? Right,

982
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: two years ago, John Lynch is like ship team one

983
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: thirty and three who walked to the Super Bowl. Look

984
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: at the roster I built me and Kyle and then

985
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 1: last year, like god, he sucks. So it's one of

986
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 1: those things like here's what I know about how he

987
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 1: he can make deals with anyone. He is this dynamic

988
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 1: when we talk about Mike McCarthy not dynamic. How he's dynamic.

989
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: So he can just constantly do ship. So when they're

990
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: like if Jalen Hurts is a problem and just not

991
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: any good, they'll just trade for Deshahn Watson, they will

992
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: land a quarterback. He'll make a huge trade. That's what

993
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 1: he does. There's not a better trader in the league.

994
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: As he missed on some picks. Yeah, I guy miss

995
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: on picks though, so I mean to me, Jason light

996
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: stands out right now. I think John Snyder's body of

997
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:51,280
Speaker 1: work is fantastic. Look at Kevin Colbert. How consistently good

998
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers are would be some names that come

999
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: to mind. And listen, I am biased, but I think

1000
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: how he's a dynamic when it comes to making deals.

1001
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: And that's part of the deal, right, It's like how

1002
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: good your practice squad? Like, I don't know, you could

1003
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: just constantly make good trades, and uh, I think he'll

1004
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: figure out the quarterback position. I wouldn't put him like,

1005
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: you know, based on the last couple of years, obviously

1006
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: in the top three, but a couple of years ago

1007
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: you would have when they won the Super Bowl. So

1008
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: it's just I think it ebbs and flows a lot.

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00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 1: I think Rick Spielman with the Minnesota Vikings, his team,

1010
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 1: like they've had average quarterback play for five six years.

1011
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: Every year they were making the Super Bowl, are knocked

1012
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: the super Bowl with the playoffs, Cousins and Teddy right,

1013
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: and they just were winning ten plus games. He just

1014
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: builds a really good team. But if you build a

1015
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: really good team but you don't have a quarterback we got,

1016
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: you know, he's good GM not a great one. It's

1017
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Speaker 1: hard now, Like Ozzi Knewsoing like they never really had

1018
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:45,919
Speaker 1: a quarterback most of his time. They had a little

1019
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: moment of Flacco, but it was like he got a

1020
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: lot of credit. Imagine if he would have drafted a

1021
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: sweet quarterback. Imagine if he would have Lamar Jackson and

1022
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: some of those earlier Ravens teams one like fifteen games

1023
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: a year. Hell, they're winning like fourteen games right now

1024
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: with Lamar, and the team now is not as good

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Speaker 1: as it was probably ten years ago, and it's still

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Speaker 1: pretty good. That's a good question. I appreciate everyone listening

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Speaker 1: and have a great weekend, I'm gonna watch some football,

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Speaker 1: play a little golf, and probably have some cocktails. So

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Speaker 1: talk to y'all soon. Talk to you next week. Peace,