1 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: So we all exchange our Christmas gifts only only a 2 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: monthly a month late, but that we wanted to make 3 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: sure we were in person to exchange. So we got 4 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: together with our spouses and we exchange our our Christmas gifts. 5 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: First of all, I'd like to point out before I 6 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: got in there, I thought we were doing more gag 7 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: gifts and actually giving each other gifts. So I was 8 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: the guy with the cheap ones like oh hey, and writer, 9 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, here's something really nice, and I 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:43,319 Speaker 1: was like, oh, mine's funny. Um so, but a lot 11 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: of our gifts are are references that our listeners will 12 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: actually get. Yeah, yeah, actually, can I I have right 13 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: outside the door here, Danielle Okay, okay, yeah, okay, good. 14 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: So Danielle very nicely got both Rider and I original 15 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: Thomas Guides. Yeah. Were then open to the Disney Channel 16 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: to Disney the Disney Disney studio thing we are there, 17 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 1: uh and framed for us. It was just really really 18 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: cool and they're like authentically from their nineties. Um Thomas Guides. 19 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: I found Disney Studios where it is, I put a 20 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: little gold star above it, and I said, we were here, uh, 21 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: and I have one I'm looking at it right now 22 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: and now, so all three of us have have that 23 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: little memory. I don't know it was Alex and I 24 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: really bonded. Writer's wife and I both apparently have the 25 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: same condition, which is the inability to sleep well, or 26 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: I guess you could reframe it another way, which is 27 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: the ability to come up with great ideas in the 28 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: middle of the process at night. My wife has been 29 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,639 Speaker 1: known to solve script problems at three in the morning, 30 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: and she jumps up and writes them down, and then 31 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: that becomes how she writes her you know, finishes a 32 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: script consistently. It's amazing. That's how I've solved directing problems. 33 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: When I go to bed and there's a blocking issue, 34 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: or I've read the script, you know, the changes have 35 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: come out, and now there's a blocking problem, and I'm like, 36 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, we're gonna have to change that blocking. 37 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: I have no idea how am I going to get 38 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: this person over there. I'll go to sleep in At 39 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: two thirty in the morning, I up and I'm like, 40 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: I'll just have a renenter from the closet there I go. 41 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: I figured it out. Oh my god. When I'm directing, 42 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: I dream I have my normal dreams, but then I'm 43 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: directing them, so I'll be like setting up the shots 44 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: so it'll be like, you know, I'm dreaming that I'm 45 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: in school without my pants on or whenever the normal 46 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: like bad dream is. But then I'll be like, I 47 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: should probably get this from another anger, and that's not 48 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: going to edit with this very well, so I should probably. 49 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: And it's like I'm and it's like this whole other 50 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: part of my brain kicks in and I'm like aware 51 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: that I'm dreaming, but I'm filming it off. I'm gonna 52 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: have to get a pickup shot of those pants. Yeah, 53 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: well that's that's Les being the pants at home. And now, really, 54 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: you know there's a Lucid you can get Lucid dream machines. 55 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: So what are the light it does? Yeah, in the 56 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: light in corner of your eye, and you see the 57 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: light in your dream. That wakes you up in your 58 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 1: dream and then you're in control of your dream. There 59 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: were apparently studies done it was either Harvard or year 60 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: Yale where they did these kind of things where the 61 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: students could actually then wake up in their dream and study. 62 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: So while they're asleep, they were still taking in information 63 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: for their their their tests and things like that a waste, 64 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: but we just want to fly you want to do 65 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: in your dreams. I'd also like to point out another 66 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: gift though, since we were talking about gifts, and it's 67 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: on my wall behind me here it is my if 68 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: you can read it, it's my super Phil Freedel cape 69 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,839 Speaker 1: uh Phil Freedel missbelt. Of course, as I always said, 70 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: Daniel got me this. It's got the arm bracers and 71 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: the the I got because you have it's got to 72 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: be don't know who it is, so obviously keep my 73 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: by secret identity. I've got my my mask on as well, 74 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: and it is on my wall ready to grab. If 75 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: the Friedel sign sign comes over l A, yeah, then 76 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: I will get into my super I mean or whoever 77 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: super fil Freedel is right, don't give it a mild 78 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:19,559 Speaker 1: mannered will Fredell by day. Well that was another gift idea. 79 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: So I got them the maps and and then I 80 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: was like, well, well, actually what it started was I 81 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: have these great gag gift ideas. We had talked about 82 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: writer always getting a leather journal and a scar for 83 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: a beanie, and so I had this idea for writer's 84 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: gag gift and in the middle of the night again 85 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: one of those things that woke me up. And what 86 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: I really wanted was a dishwashing cape, because you said 87 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,239 Speaker 1: you love to wash dishes. So I wanted a terry 88 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: cloth cape with hand pockets so that you could wear 89 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: a cape and wash the dishes. And I presented the 90 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: idea to producer Jensen car husband of the d asked, 91 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: and I was like, do you know, well this cake, 92 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: that's what I was hoping. I said, do you know 93 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: where I could have this made? And he looked at 94 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: me like what is wrong with it? Was like, I've 95 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: seen that look. I've seen that look from my wife. 96 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: I know that look. And I was like, okay, okay, 97 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: you're right. You know what, also, you have a little 98 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: bit on your plate. I'll take this somewhere else. I'll 99 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: order the cape, I'll get the customer. I'll just do 100 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: this other cape. So anyway, well, yeah, we had a 101 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: great time and I absolutely love it. So anyway, welcome 102 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: to Pod meets World. I'm Danielle Fishal, I'm right or Strong, 103 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: and I'm Phil Freedel super super super, Oh my gosh. 104 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: So before we jump into this episode, I have we 105 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: have a little bit of a correction, possibly to make 106 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: we very casually mentioned in a previous Pod Meets World 107 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: episode that the Boy Meets World House had most likely 108 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: been torn down. I said that, My bad, My bad. Yeah, 109 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: it's okay. People make mistakes. We didn't know, writer, and 110 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: I didn't drive by it to confirm. So it appears 111 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: that the Boy Meets World House has not been torn down. 112 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: It is alive and thriving and doing well, and you 113 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: yourself can rent it if you wanted to. So it 114 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: is apparently up for rent on Airbnb, and we have 115 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: some devoted listeners who are going to stay there. So 116 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: I swear it was gone. I drove by and I 117 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: was devastated. So they must have changed. And from what 118 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: I've now heard, there's like a big fancy from and 119 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: so they changed it enough to where you used to 120 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: drive by and it just was right there on the 121 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: road there from and it was just right there. And 122 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: so there's a very well known recording studio five yards 123 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: from it. And I was there, you know, doing an 124 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: animated series, and drove by and went, oh my god, 125 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: it's gone, and called these two that by me Turtle, 126 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: the house is gone. Apparently that is not correct. Yeah, 127 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: I think what you said is right. I think they 128 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: put up a big gate. There's a bunch of hedges 129 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: and you can no longer see it from the streets, 130 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: so it looks as though it's been torn down, but 131 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: it is still there. So it probably did that because 132 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: they were getting annoyed by people taking phone yes, or like, 133 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: because that's what I've heard about the Goonies House in Ashland, 134 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: Oregon and um ah no, um Storia and then um 135 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: then the full House Christmas story House. The Christmas story 136 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: House apparently is like inundated with people all the time. Yeah, 137 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: but the Christmas story House is actually a museum. My 138 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: brother has been there. So you go through and they've 139 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: made it look exactly like it did during the film. Yeah. 140 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: So the big lamp, the big red lamp like this 141 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: one is actually there and all that stuff breaking. Bad 142 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 1: house has people throwing pizzas on the roof. Oh you're kidding, 143 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: they hate it. How could you not? What a waste mean? 144 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: Just pizza from Get Get the pizzas? Yeah, my head 145 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: goes to what a waste of pizza? Yeah, Well, very 146 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: excited about our guest today. Another person y'all have harassed 147 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: in the most loving of ways on Instagram and telling 148 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: us that we need to have her on. Marguerite Moreau 149 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: is a beloved actress best known for her turns as 150 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: Connie Moreau from The Mighty Ducks, which her last They 151 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: just gave her the same last name. That's pretty yeah, 152 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: Jason mars I didn't realize that happened so often. I 153 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: think if you have an easy to pronounce name, it's 154 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: a lot easier. If you're a Marsden or Moreau, you're 155 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: a Fredel or a Fridle, it's never it's never gonna 156 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: happen for you. Although honestly, August Aggie was Aggie on 157 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: Girl Meets World and that's what you know. Um So 158 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: she's from the Mighty Ducks franchise and eventually as the 159 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: iconic Katie and Wet Hot American Summer, and as both 160 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: a child and adult actress. She has been working NonStop 161 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: on TV, from The o C to Madman, to Parenthood 162 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: to Grey's Anatomy to Shameless. The list goes on and on, 163 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: and then there's my favorite. She starred alongside Aaliyah in 164 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: the movie Queen of the Damned in two thousand two, 165 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: but today we are focused on Gail and then Rebecca, 166 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: the two different characters. She played a different name. She 167 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: had a different name in the first one, and that's 168 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: what I said. I was like, that doesn't make any sense. 169 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: I have a feeling her first name wasn't said in 170 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: the first episode, and so they just looked at it like, 171 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: no one will know, they'll think she's just playing the 172 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: same character. But she was in two episodes of Boy 173 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: Meets World second season and left quite a mark on 174 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: both the show and a young Wilfred l. So let's 175 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: please welcome Marguerite Moreau. Hello, Hello, hi everyone. So I 176 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: said when I was giving your introduction before you joined 177 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: us in the podcast, but I did not realize that 178 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: in the two episodes of Boy Meats World you did 179 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: you were credited with two different character names. It's exciting, okay, 180 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: And so did you did you audition for one character 181 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: name and then like they were just like, never mind, 182 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: now next week we're going to give you a different character. 183 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: How did that process happen? From what I remember, maybe 184 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: I auditioned for the Rebecca character and they said, oh, 185 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: there's two episodes. Wow, But then that wouldn't make sense 186 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: because of the only one character. So my memory is 187 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: failing me already. I imagine I did the first one 188 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: and they were like, oh, this this can work nicely, 189 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: let's keep her on as this character. I don't know 190 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: why they wouldn't keep it the same name. I know 191 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: it's so interesting, and until Danielle said it, none of 192 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: us knew that you had two names for the two episodes. 193 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: That might be a first in Boy Meat World history, 194 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: especially back to back episode. You think they were back 195 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: to back. Maybe I don't back to back. The amount 196 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: of like casting changes, name changes, character stuff that you 197 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: know we got away with in the lack of the 198 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: Land of no continuity. Uh, I don't know. I'm not 199 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: that true. You know that's absolutely true. Yeah, but you 200 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: will insistent in its inconsistency valid point, especially our show. 201 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: So before before we jump into the boy Meets World 202 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: characters and all of that, can you tell us your 203 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: origin story to Hollywood and how you got into acting. Oh, 204 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 1: I had an older cousin that I wanted to be like, 205 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: who had all the fancy dresses and all the I 206 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: was in all the tomboys stuff. So I think because 207 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: she was sort of interested in getting into it, I 208 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: was too and um and then of course, like when 209 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: you get to be twelve or thirteen, your parents get 210 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: you or my mom got me like seventeen magazine and 211 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yes, Paris sounds right. I live 212 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: in Inland Empire ten like Cindy Crawford. I'm going to be, 213 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: you know, a model who does hook tour. But I'm 214 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: also going to be the valedictorian. This is my clear 215 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: career path. And I actually fell into acting, um and 216 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: was like, oh, don't give me any lines. This is like, 217 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: you know, I'm the most insecure. Uh. And but what 218 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: I found was because I loved TV and movies so 219 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: much is that I started to learn how to connect 220 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: and make friends that way. And I it's so deeply. 221 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: It just made me so happy that I just kept 222 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: doing it as a practice because it taught me about people. 223 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: So that's kind of how I just kept going from 224 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: job to job. It wasn't I mean, I thought I 225 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: was going into politics after I realized that I was 226 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: staying five too forever. Oh my gosh, wait, So how 227 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: old were you when you started acting? Um? I got 228 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: my first job when I was thirte Like my first 229 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: film job. I did modeling and stuff before that, yes, 230 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: but not a flute. What was your what was your 231 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: first job when you were the Wonder Years? Wow? Okay, 232 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: we'll come back to that, Okay. So another one of 233 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: your first jobs was the torkle Sens which originally was 234 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: known as Almost Home, And that show has come up 235 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: a few times on our podcast with Jason Marsden, Leon Norris, 236 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: and the late Brittany Murphy, but most importantly was executive 237 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: produced by Michael Jacobs. Is that how you really? Girl? 238 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: I was not paying attention then, but it's real good 239 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: to you know, go into that audition office, like I 240 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: remember the Michael Jacobs like, uh all back room. Yeah, 241 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: and it always felt like, oh, this feels really good 242 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: in here. Yeah. Yeah, that was nice. Wow. So wait 243 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: were you on Torkleson's or Almost Home? Almost Home? Okay? 244 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: So the second one? I think it started Torkleson's and 245 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: then morphed into Almost Home. Yeah. It was great, but 246 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: it was like there was similar kind of parent dynamics 247 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: I think, right as on yours. I think so. I 248 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: mean again, it was it was very kind of yeah, 249 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: nineties sitcom nineties Michael Jacob sitcom they were all kind 250 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: of had that similar type of feel. Was your experience 251 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: on Wonder Year is not good? It was complicated? Um? 252 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: I was. It was my favorite show and it was 253 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: my first job. So the combination of me crashing into 254 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: these people in real life was so exciting. And I 255 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: had auditioned for a huge recurring to play the French 256 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: um the French foreign exchange to and love was at 257 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: the callback. I remember that because you had the most 258 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: amazing gears on ever from that, Yeah, the note, they 259 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: came out and they talked to my mom and they 260 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: said can she just and I'm like just thirteen, and 261 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: they said could could she bring a little more heat? 262 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: My mom was like like, oh my god. You know 263 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: the girl who got it I think was like twenty 264 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: one and it was more appropriate, right, And so they 265 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: gave me this walk on co star part after doing that, 266 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: just to start me out night. Um. I just knew 267 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: that there was always something about like I knew what 268 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: he was. I mean, I was thirteen. I proctually thought 269 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: I was an adult, but that's not translating in your 270 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: brain in a way that you can communicate at that age. 271 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: And then you know on set there was a little 272 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: bit of the power dynamics of the kids on set 273 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: and me not really understanding when things were jokes about 274 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: like let's go out later, baby, and me being like 275 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: do they mean that? Like I u uh, and then 276 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: just being scared that I was like doing it wrong 277 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: or you know, it was my first my first kick. 278 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: So but it was definitely like, oh, didn't ruin? Did 279 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: it ruin the wonder years for you know? Okay? Good? 280 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: That love the show till Yeah, So it wasn't like that. 281 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: It's just like kind of started to rethink about things 282 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: in the last couple of years ago. Oh yeah, not 283 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: being comfortable and feeling safe and having it be about 284 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: sexual dynamics is complicated for kids. Yeah she didn't. You 285 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: guys have been talking about that because I always loved well, sometimes, 286 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: like you said, it's fun and sometimes it's very confusing. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, God, 287 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: I wish I wish it wasn't such a perfect place 288 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: to transition into our episode. Unfortunately. Well, I mean it 289 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: is because we were what we were talking about. I mean, 290 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: just I remember I distinctly remember that week, and I don't. 291 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I remember certain things about the show. Um, 292 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: but we're all kind of rewatching the show for the 293 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: first time in a while, and there's a whole lot 294 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: that I've forgotten, but I remember some very specific things 295 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: about that week. Um. One of them, which I've talked 296 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: about at nauseam, was that you and I got along 297 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: very well, and I remember having a really I was 298 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: I was very comfortable with you. I thought we had 299 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: a good dynamic. But I also remember it was kind 300 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: of instantly thrown into making out and then us being 301 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: on the yeah, being on the bed, and then the 302 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: kind of everyone surrounding us. And do you remember. I 303 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: don't even want to I won't tell you my side 304 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: again because I remember. Do you remember the everything that 305 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: kind of went down in that I don't even know 306 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: how to say. It's so uncomfortable. Do you remember? Do 307 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: you remember the blocking for the making out scene and 308 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: how that came about? Yeah, But in a loose way, 309 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:46,239 Speaker 1: I think that, Um, I was excited to do the 310 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: part and we got along so well, so I felt 311 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: like you and I were there with all these grown men, 312 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: and maybe there were some females there, but I don't remember, 313 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: and we were just doing our best to be grown 314 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 1: up about it. And I was also probably a little excited, um, 315 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: but also like, I hope this is I'm doing this right. 316 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: Why can't we just figure this out? Like we're smart, 317 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: like we'll have we have chemistry, we'll get it. And 318 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: it's funny in in thinking about it, I don't necessarily 319 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: know what they ended up by having you kind of 320 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: like try to roll over me if it really added 321 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: to the story. I thought it looked the same as 322 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: the macking in the hallways, you know. Um, But but 323 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: I just remember that that it's sort of like how 324 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: I remember it well as sort of my reward for 325 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: that awkwardness is that we got to have fun kisses. Okay, 326 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: I got through that, and now this is fun, and 327 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: so I have very fond memories of it, and so 328 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: I probably just blocked out anything that felt weird. Sure, 329 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: well that's good. I mean, that's a good thing. And 330 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: again I don't I don't have bad memories of it. Frankly, 331 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: it which I think that time it was an awkward, yeah, 332 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: thing to do with a bunch of grown, grown strangers 333 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: for me, and to power dynamic of being the guests 334 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: and not being able to Bengo. That's what That's what, 335 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 1: to Will's credit has been actually the thing that that 336 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: made him re look back at it with different eyes, 337 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: which is, you know, we all experienced the things through 338 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: our lenses and now being able to watch it as 339 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: an adult and seeing it and thinking about, Yeah, I 340 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: remember thinking that was weird. What must that have been 341 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: like for her as the guest star, as the you know, 342 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: if Will was uncomfortable with the job security that he 343 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: had and with being a male, and I was like 344 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: what you had? I was like, because it's like you 345 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: were being polite and whatnot? Sorry much he was uncomfortable. Okay, 346 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: So well, I mean, yeah, well there's I mean, there's 347 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: always you go through the layers of nerves. It's it's 348 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: so strange, so you go through the human layer of 349 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: I was never popular in high school. So the idea 350 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: that I would sit there and get to kiss a 351 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: pretty girl, I mean there's a part of you as 352 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: just a boy that it's fun and it's we did 353 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: get along and we had a good time, So that 354 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: part was was comfortable. I didn't really have a problem 355 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: with that. Um and then but as you said, it 356 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: was as actors, then it was kind of like, all right, well, 357 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: let us work it out. Let us figure out how 358 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 1: we're going to do this and kind of get to it. 359 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: But you know, we're young. It was you were a 360 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: guest star. I was just starting second season. I still 361 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: wasn't speaking up about no, we got this, like that 362 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: wasn't part of the vernacular yet. Um, so yeah, it's 363 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: you know, you know, if I would have had the words, 364 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: because I mean, yeah, I mean in the other stuff 365 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: that I had done that it was kissing before that. 366 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I think for my d ducks it said 367 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,239 Speaker 1: that there was a kiss at the end for me 368 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: and my little guy that I was with the whole time, 369 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: holding hands, and I was thinking about that kiss for 370 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: the whole six months of the shoot. Right, Oh, it's 371 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: going to be this moment, this very grown up moment 372 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: where we're gonna kiss, and it was like two kids 373 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: bouncing into each other. For years, I was ashamed of 374 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: this grown up kiss I got to do because nobody said, 375 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: you know, that's adorable. These are children and it's a chill, 376 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,719 Speaker 1: childish moment. Like I didn't understand that you and I 377 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: were We're supposed to be like kids making mistakes. You know, No, 378 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: I agree, it was it was I'm glad it was 379 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: you because that certainly made it far more comfortable. And 380 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: I remember we had we talked about it and you know, 381 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: all that stuff kind of going into it. And again, 382 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: at the time, it it was just work. You know, 383 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: it was enjoyable, but it was still just work. Um. 384 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: It's not again until later that you look back where 385 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: you kind of you look at the whole situation as 386 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: an adult. Yeah, and you kind of say, because then 387 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: and I put myself in an adult Now that I 388 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: am an adult, I put myself in the shoes of 389 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: the adults there, and I try to imagine myself standing 390 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: around with a bunch of my friends watching to seventeen 391 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,239 Speaker 1: or eighteen year olds making out on a bed and 392 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: trying to do wrecked them into how to make it 393 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: look like it's going to go. And that's where I 394 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: get creeped out, where I kind of you know, that's 395 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: where I look back at it and I'm I don't know, 396 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: maybe it's because I'm an empathetic person where I put 397 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: myself that's weird. Yeah, that's weird. Weird, kid, it's really 398 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 1: and it was of the time in terms of us 399 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: all accepting. I don't want to put words in your 400 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: mouth that this was just how it was. You know, 401 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: it's true, and I think part of our our comfort 402 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,479 Speaker 1: in that moment, or that we weren't even realizing we 403 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: were uncomfortable. I mean, it took me a long time 404 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: to to realize a lot of that stuff was maybe 405 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: a little questionable at times, but handled with as much 406 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: grace as as it could be given the time. I mean, 407 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: I asked my mom actually last night, I was like, hey, 408 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: are you remembering anything? Um, And She's like, I just 409 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: have a blank like the one you're almost in You're 410 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: almost in college, and and I but it was a 411 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: weird day for me too, because I remember getting the part, 412 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: and right before I went to set my very first 413 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: day for rehearsal, I said goodbye to my high school 414 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: sweetheart who was going to college because he was a 415 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: year older. And I remember thinking, and I'm sitting in 416 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: the stands sound stage in the dark, and I'm like 417 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: looking at my phone or like, oh, I can't believe 418 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: is it is this bad? Like I'm I got to 419 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: kiss him in the morning and now I'm kissing Will 420 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: and this is a great job. Now it's work. I 421 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: can't believe this. So I think that, however, it was 422 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: handled from my memory. I thought, I I wasn't kissing 423 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: someone every week, so this is this was a little special, right, 424 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: I can't do you remember? This is the thing I 425 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: couldn't remember. Were we kissing during rehearsals as well? Yeah? Okay, yeah, yeah, 426 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,239 Speaker 1: that's what I remember. I remember whenever we had like 427 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: multiple makeout scenes, we would do it from day one 428 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: because we had to do it for the run through. Um, 429 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: so we wouldn't we wouldn't be faking it. We would 430 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: be And I too, I'm thinking about how Carrie Russell 431 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: said tongue to you. Yeah, I mean, nobody ever told 432 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: me that you're not supposed to use tongue. And I 433 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: was on Mad Ben and John Slattery and I are 434 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: kissing and his tongue is like in his mouth, and 435 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is the weirdest kissing forever. And so 436 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: between takes like two in the morning, I'm like, hey, 437 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: I'm the next one. What if we like just like 438 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: really kiss, Like where's your tongue? I mean, you think 439 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: I would have a little bit more skill than kidding 440 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: creed into the secordinator. He's like, oh, oh, you don't 441 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: want to do like a TV kiss and I was like, 442 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: this isn't like the shock on my face, Like, how 443 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: many here don't use what's a TV kiss? Isn't that 444 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: just a regular kiss they film? That's what I thought. 445 00:24:54,160 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: It looks good, sonny funny. Have you used an intimacy 446 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: coach on recent jobs? Um? I did use one, and 447 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,719 Speaker 1: because I'm so old school, it felt a little weird 448 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: at first, mostly because I don't like that feeling where 449 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: the if the guy is newer to work, that they're 450 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: they have jumped away is super fast. I'm like, there 451 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: isn't like they're gonna offend you, and You're like, whoa, 452 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: Let's just keep the keep the vibe chill. So I 453 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: think it will be more comfortable the more I use them, 454 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: but I super appreciate that they're there. I've definitely done 455 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: plays and things too where I was like, no, no, no, no, no, 456 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: this is I'm in over my head with older people. 457 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how to advocate for myself but also 458 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: keep the integrity of the material. And we don't we 459 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: don't have to harp on this for the entire episode, obviously, 460 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 1: but I'm very glad it was you. I remember being 461 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: very very comfortable with you. Um. The whole time, and uh, 462 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, it got as writer and Daniel were saying 463 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: the last episode, it got the point across for what 464 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: it was supposed to have happened. I think I agree 465 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: with you where I don't think you needed the leg 466 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: going over as if I was trying to get on 467 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: top of you. I think it the lot I think 468 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 1: being I think lying down, just lying down on a 469 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 1: bed takes it to another level than kissing in a hallway. 470 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: That's all you needed. Also parents bedroom right, which again 471 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: also for the whole way up the stairs, is so 472 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: suggestive and so driving the scene less he is there 473 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: with one intention and she is gonna go get on 474 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: it right away. Yes, And that leads me to my 475 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: next question about it, because it has become, you know, 476 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: kind of I don't know that I would call it 477 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: a debate, but it has become like a focal point 478 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: of conversation, the discussion we had where you are right, 479 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: your character is driving this. Rebecca wants him upstairs. I'm 480 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: getting that tour and we find out later he says 481 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: that you pat the bed, She pats the bed like 482 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: you know, come here. And then after Corey busts in 483 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: on you guys, there's a real like attitude shift and 484 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: a real like totally different feeling and energy that your 485 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 1: character has when you're getting out of there. It's it 486 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: it you had been the driving force behind it. Do 487 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 1: you remember the discussions, the notes, the like what there was? 488 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: Was it a performance choice? Was it something? Was it 489 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: something you were noted about? Do you what are your 490 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: memories about that? I honestly don't remember any specific notes, 491 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: but I know my my work at the time and 492 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: the types of rules I was getting and the things 493 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: that I leaned into as an actress that um that 494 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: they all sort of I think that I was playing it. Um, 495 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to get in trouble. I know I 496 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: was student something wrong, almost like a bad girl a 497 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: little bit, but a safe thing, right, you know. And 498 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: And that was as far as I could understand why 499 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: it would have been written that I'm telling him, I'm 500 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: never like. We never had anything after that. I think 501 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: that was like, that was the thing we got. Wait, 502 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: that was the thing that we made it a little 503 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: weird for me? Was what. It's not so much the 504 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: I get the I was caught and I'm glad it 505 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: didn't go any farther than it should have. I was 506 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: I'm going too fast. Totally understand that the never wanting 507 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: to see Eric again is the thing where it's like, wow, 508 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: that's that's very abrupt to be like and we're done forever, 509 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: Like wow, okay, that was the one. Yeah, that was 510 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: the one that threw me. But maybe maybe she's she's 511 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: gotten caught before this was. I love how you're still 512 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: going into the back story, Marguerite, You're still I'm still 513 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: work shopping this character. I've definitely woken up five years 514 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: later and been like, oh, that's how I should have 515 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: said that line. Oh yeah, they do it all that's time. 516 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: Oh man. Again. They always make fun of me for 517 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: constantly referencing mash, but it's a reference. Alan Alda and 518 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: Wayne Rodgers were famous for re rehearsing scenes that had 519 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: already aired. Oh my god, So they they had shot 520 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: it already, it had aired, and they looked at each 521 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: other and went, this is how we should have done it, 522 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: and literally gone back and reblocked the scene on their own. 523 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: Oh man. Um so just kind of brilliant. But yeah, 524 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: I get that. I do that too. We always do 525 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: that too, Like, oh that's how I would have done 526 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: that performance. So to prep for this interview, we asked 527 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: you to watch the episode again. What did you think 528 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: watching it thirty years later? Have you seen it since 529 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: you did it originally before now or no? I mean 530 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: as a kid, I think it was so excited. I 531 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: probably watched it eight hundred times, and I knew all 532 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: the dialogue, but I didn't remember it. It's just as 533 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: it was happening. I was like, I gotta watch some 534 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: other episodes so I have some context because this one. 535 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: And of course, you know, you guys have mentioned a 536 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: hair on this podcast, and I was just like, that 537 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: is a sheet hair? Your hair? I know I mentioned 538 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: it when I was like you walked in, I was like, 539 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: her hair, your hair, My god. It was like everybody's hair. 540 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: The hair was the hair show. I I we really had. Yeah, 541 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: it was quite a hair obsession. I think that I thought, Um, 542 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: I was surprised that my character is so angry, and 543 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: I saw some of my young acting that I mentioned 544 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: a few minutes ago, like acting like my actually my 545 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: little sister who's got a little more bite than I do. 546 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: And and then I was always very fixated on the 547 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: choice of the white tights as a young girl, it 548 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: was like white tights, huh, you know. Um, and then 549 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: just like I would be like staring at Corey's cherubic 550 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: face and how he's just got perfect skin. And then 551 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: your cops scene. I really enjoyed the flirting with the 552 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: tea with the shooters. I've ever seen but shot I 553 00:30:55,000 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: thought that was inappropriate. We talked about that felt very 554 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: It felt very not not cool male gaze I get, 555 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: but also and boy gays. But but I do like, um, 556 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: I do just feel that like the relationships all felt 557 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: very clear to me of who you guys were and 558 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: what you guys meant to each other and who the 559 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: parents were. Um. Having seen it so many times, uh 560 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: and then having the fresh watch, it's like this how 561 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: it all comes together for the family to have that 562 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: talk and that this episode about big feelings as we 563 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: call them, now gets to have a pointed episode where 564 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: people are making mistakes and trying to make steps instead 565 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: of like it being separate like hey, let's have the 566 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: sex stock Oh dad, I already know. Okay, good, we 567 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: did it. I think got a little bit. They used jokes, 568 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: humor and mistakes to uh tackle something that that maybe 569 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: everyone to watch together that would then spark conversation in 570 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: maybe different ways that I mean definitely thinking of out 571 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: my unt. He's not all enough to work yet, he's 572 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: only seven. It's helpful to see it modeled, you know. Yeah, 573 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: so I really thought it holds up. It's great. Yeah. 574 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: We watched our entire first season and then jumped right 575 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: into the second season, and there was such a shift 576 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: between the two that I think we were still trying 577 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: to shake off the fog a little bit as we 578 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: were watching some of the first episodes. Um and then 579 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: again the stories just kind of came back into my head, 580 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: but I just remember them. We're still very much trying 581 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: to find some of our characters, so they're kind of 582 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: throwing everything at the wall at this point to see 583 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,479 Speaker 1: what sticks. So we were talking about this was one 584 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: of the first episodes where Eric is with girls and 585 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: also dumb. He's done that a couple of times, so 586 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: it's like, which which way are we going with this? 587 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: Which way did we end up going? Did you tell me? 588 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: Because I I, oh, yeah, Eric, Eric ended up well 589 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: after his second PhD know, he's he ended up. He's 590 00:32:55,320 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: the dumbest character r TV. He's up there. Hi, I'm 591 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: Christine Taylor, and I'm here with my co host David Lasher. 592 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: We have a podcast called Hey Dude the Nineties called 593 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: and David, why don't you tell us who our guests are? 594 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: This week? From a film that I did right in 595 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: the middle of the nineties called White Squall, Scott Wolf, Ryan, 596 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: Phillip Bay, Jeremy Sisto, Balthas our Getty, Ethan Embry, and 597 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: the dude himself Jeff Bridges recount that insane shoot that 598 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: was six months all over the world. But the the 599 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: interview for Hey Dude the Nineties called White Squall Cast 600 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: Reunion is epic. Listen to Hey Dude the Nineties called 601 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever 602 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:54,239 Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts now. From an acting standpoint, did 603 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: you approach Gail any differently than you approach Rebecca? You 604 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: know I'm kidding, but I do think talking about this 605 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: shift from season one to season two, because we have 606 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: gotten a few, not a few dozens of emails regarding 607 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: our feelings um of going from the warm, cozy blanket 608 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: of season one, where it was maybe a little more 609 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: sweet and family oriented, into the um maybe sexually more 610 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: sexually charged teenage angsty second season, and I think, um, 611 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: and some of those people are saying, I agree with you. 612 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: It also feels that same way to me, And I 613 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: also felt that way when I was watching as a kid. 614 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: And then there are there's the other side that goes, well, 615 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: I can see what you're saying, but also this is 616 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: such a breath of fresh air for me when I 617 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: was a tween, because that is what was going on 618 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: in my school, that is what was going on in 619 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,240 Speaker 1: my life, that is what was going on with my friends. 620 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: And I think we as a cast, certainly the three 621 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: of us here. I'm not going to speak for anybody else, 622 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: but um, Writer, Will and I were very sheltered children. 623 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: Even though we were child actors, and even though we 624 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 1: you know, Will lived out here on his own, and 625 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: Writer a lot of times was living out here on 626 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: his own. Once he hit fifteen, he was basically living 627 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: on his own. We were still pretty sheltered kids. And 628 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think that's what was going 629 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: on in our lives. And I think we felt the 630 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: jump from season one to season two, but that doesn't 631 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: mean it's obviously I'm recognizing that that wasn't how a 632 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: lot of twelve year olds were feeling a lot of 633 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: twelve year olds were feeling exactly what we're seeing in 634 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 1: season two. Yea, yeah, I mean, I'm I'm gonna step 635 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: out a little bit. I think I was definitely pretty. 636 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: I don't I wouldn't say it was sheltered because I 637 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,439 Speaker 1: was pretty, Like I already had a girlfriend, a pretty 638 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 1: serious girlfriend by season one. Season two, we're still together. Uh. 639 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: So I I think this is and I've I've been 640 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: reevaluating our reevaluation too, um because I you know, I 641 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: think that that feedback is accurate. I think that a 642 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 1: lot of that energy is part of you know, that 643 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: sexual energy and fear and anxiety about needing to to 644 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 1: to go, you know, be partnered out or have a 645 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: girlfriend or whatever. That is the way a lot of 646 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: thirteen year olds feel. And I think that I think 647 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: that we're just we're super sensitive because we are watching 648 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: it the way we are. You know. As for me, 649 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: like a grown up with my son, having gone from 650 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: season one to season two, it fuels really drying. But 651 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: I'm I'm reevaluating. Especially last night I was watching White 652 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: Lotus uh with my wife, and I realized, you know, 653 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: like it's it's a great show. And then I was realizing, like, god, 654 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: this show is sexy, you know, like and then that 655 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: that's part of the fun. I was like, I kind 656 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 1: of like watching hot people on beaches and like I 657 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: was just like and I was like, that's okay, right, 658 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: But it was so funny because I've been you know, 659 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 1: I've been so critical of like boy Meets World, but 660 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: then here I was watching White Lotus and I was like, Oh, 661 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: that's that's part of the fun. I'm here with my wife, 662 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: We're watching people get naked and beaches and vacation and 663 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: beautiful spots. I was like, that's sexy. That's cool. And 664 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: I think that there's something to be said for a 665 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: tween version of that too, that um, you know, I 666 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: feel like maybe i've i you know, I've sort of 667 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 1: taken for granted that that is part of the pleasure 668 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: principle of Boy Meat's World is that it's going to 669 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: reflect that that, you know, those things that when you're 670 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 1: thirteen are maybe kind of exciting, like are you gonna 671 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: kiss a girl or you know. So, I don't know, 672 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: I've been thinking a lot about how maybe you know, 673 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: we're just super sensitive because it's our childhood that we're 674 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: seeing these awkward moments behind the scenes, you know, um, potentially. 675 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: It's also again that that going directly from season one 676 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: to season two was our problem because again, the if 677 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: you're if you're even looking at your life, your summer 678 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: from sixth grade to seventh grade, or the summer from 679 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: eighth grade to freshman year in high school, there are 680 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: massive changes. I mean, you're a different person in those 681 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 1: three months when you go back to school, um so, 682 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: and it is very sexual and there were kids having 683 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: sex and hooking up even freshman sophomore year, and so 684 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: it was very real. Again, had we taken that same 685 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 1: break and jumped into season two, I think it would 686 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: have been less jarring. We went right from a black 687 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: and white movie right till we woke up in oz 688 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,919 Speaker 1: and so it was it was just what the hell 689 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: is going on? What are these colors? It's freaking me out. 690 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: And that's why I think we're bringing it back to 691 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 1: earth a little bit. So, yeah, I don't. It wasn't 692 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: the subject It's not the subject matter for me so 693 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: much as we're looking at our personal experiences of how 694 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: they were capturing some of that subject matter. Well, that's 695 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: the what question I have from my understanding. A lot 696 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,439 Speaker 1: of times writers right to the actors after a little 697 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: bit of time. And so I was wondering if you 698 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: felt that they wrote to you while maybe you weren't 699 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: even aware that they were seeing you blossom as as 700 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 1: young adults, and threw that in and said, oh, I 701 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: think we can put some of this in there, and 702 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 1: and kind of do you feel that they were following 703 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: you at all? With that? I think so, I mean, 704 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 1: I think, and I think that's part of the craziness 705 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: of second season is that, you know, I feel like 706 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: I was actually pretty mature and like Ben still seems 707 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: like a child to me, you know, like even just physically, 708 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: like I'm towering over him still. Uh. And I you know, 709 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: I can tell I'm getting into my adolescence in a 710 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: way that Ben's not quite there yet. Maybe he'll be 711 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: there by the end of second season, but just physically 712 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: you can see. And I know, personally, I think that's 713 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: what was happening to Like, I think personally, like I said, 714 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: I had a girlfriend that the writers probably knew that 715 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 1: I was probably talking about my girlfriend all the time. 716 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: I was making up with my girlfriend all the time, 717 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: you know, like yeah, um, yeah, yeah. In fact, I 718 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: remember bringing her to the Christmas party uh for um 719 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: our first season. We had a great Christmas party and 720 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 1: it was one of the coolest things. She and I 721 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,280 Speaker 1: ran off because the there was do you guys remember 722 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:45,959 Speaker 1: on the Disney lot there was an old New York 723 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 1: Square Do you remember this? It was like it was 724 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 1: from Newsies. I had actually auditioned for News. He's on 725 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 1: the Square. It was an old New York block with 726 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: a with like it was just like a series of 727 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: abilities and made it look like nineteen thirties New York 728 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: and um, and it had been decorated with Christmas lights 729 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: for Christmas and I knew that, so I grabbed him. 730 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 1: We snuck away from the boy Beat World Christmas party 731 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: to go make out on this like old New York. 732 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: It was like super romantic, like Hollywood moment, and I 733 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: was like, gout. I was only and then I was 734 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: doing that, so yeah, it was definitely happening in real life. 735 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: Ben was my first kiss. That was my first The 736 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: episode where I kissed Ben against the locker was my 737 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: first kiss. And then you know, I had I had 738 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: a boyfriend, but like we were not like hot and heavy, 739 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: make it out all over the place. But yes, I 740 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,320 Speaker 1: had kissed other people. And then going into second season, 741 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: it was like we had that summer break. I went 742 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: to my regular school and no one was like making 743 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: out against the locker at my regular school. And then 744 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 1: I just remember being like, is this what other high 745 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: schools are doing? Like I did not know. I did 746 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: not know there would be just teenagers. I was also 747 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,359 Speaker 1: still in junior high. I had the very traditional six, 748 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: seventh and eighth grade, so I was now in seventh grade. 749 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: I was one of the older kids almost in my group, 750 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,800 Speaker 1: not you know, oh there's going to be seniors next 751 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: door or in the same hallway as me. So I know. 752 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 1: I felt very much like is this what the rest 753 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: of the world is doing? And I am just not 754 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: there yet, Like I I do remember feeling very behind. 755 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 1: And did you have kissing parties? We had kissing parties 756 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: in like the six seventh and spin the bottle and stuff. No, 757 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: it was it wasn't like spin the bottle. It was 758 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 1: more you know, well, every everybody already knows this. Buy 759 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: cigarettes and go hang out in the woods because it's Connecticut. 760 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: Thank you. Sorry, you have to roll your own cigarettes. 761 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: Uh no, we would. We would. You go and you 762 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: would A bunch of us were smokers, all of us essentially, 763 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 1: and you go and the girls would kiss the girls 764 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: and they you know that kind of that was seven 765 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,800 Speaker 1: grade and there wasn't I wasn't as advanced, So I 766 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 1: would hear stories about people making out. How do smoke 767 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 1: or how does smoking and the kissing? How is this connected? 768 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: Because it was adult. We thought it was like adults 769 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: adult sweet smoke our cigarettes and you you know, you 770 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: try to hook up like, oh did she hook up 771 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: with her? Which meant because nothing tastes better when you're 772 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: kissing something. Both doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, 773 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: it's still it's got to hate it because it's no. 774 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,959 Speaker 1: I'm with you, I remember. I mean I definitely truth 775 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,720 Speaker 1: or dare spin the bottle? Just like all that stuff. 776 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: I mean I would go back even I mean that 777 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: started in grade school for me, Like that was like 778 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 1: sheltered then No, yeah, no, Danielle, we know yours. We 779 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 1: know mine was Carrie Russell Marguerite first on screen kiss. 780 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:44,839 Speaker 1: Who was it? Oh Mighty Ducks, right, I guess so, yeah, 781 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 1: Garrett Henson and Mighty Ducks when the two little hockey 782 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: players just crashed into each other and it fell over. Okay, First, 783 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 1: that's great writer. First on screen kiss, I don't know. 784 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:56,800 Speaker 1: I don't know who your first on screen kiss with. 785 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,319 Speaker 1: It had to have been on Boy Meats World, right, 786 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 1: it must have been Boy Meats World. But it hasn't 787 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 1: happened yet. I haven't kissed anybody on the shore, or 788 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: have I was in the locker the first episode of 789 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: the First Day. See you actually kissing? She just grabs 790 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 1: me and pulls me. Yeah, so I guess it's coming up, 791 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: but we'll see. Really my first because yes something no 792 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: girlfriend and summertime switch, which I did over the summer. 793 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying nothing at home improvement. When you're on a 794 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: home improvement or any of that kind of't think. So, No, 795 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 1: I was, I had I was. Jessica was my girlfriend 796 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: on that? Or Julia Julia Child Julia show that you 797 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: were on That's not no. But the the pilot for 798 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: Julie was about me getting in trouble for having grabbed 799 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,959 Speaker 1: a girl's breast at school. That was the pilot, which 800 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: was super interested and it was it was very well done. 801 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 1: It was the whole thing about you know, but you 802 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 1: don't see it or anything. You just hear about it. 803 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 1: I get in trouble. That was the pilot the show 804 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: that that that pilot never aired. They ended up reshooting 805 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 1: and reconfiguring the whole show. But it was an amazing 806 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 1: scene with me and Julie Andrews where she's my mom 807 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,720 Speaker 1: and I had done it on a dare, like at school. 808 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,839 Speaker 1: Somebody dared me to grab some older girl and she 809 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 1: puts me on the spot and says show me, and 810 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're my mom. She's like exactly, and it's 811 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: like this great scene where like Julie Andrews, it was hysterical. Um, 812 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: so I had done that. I mean, but you know, 813 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 1: here's what I was thinking about. Actually, while we were 814 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:23,840 Speaker 1: talking earlier. I do remember in acting classes, and I 815 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: don't know if you guys actually took many acting classes, 816 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: but I remember in acting classes as a tween, even 817 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 1: as a twelve or thirteen year old, it would regularly 818 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 1: people would would get scenes where they were supposed to 819 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 1: be kissing. And it was kind of a thing that 820 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 1: by the age of like thirteen, if you were in 821 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: an acting class, you would kiss for the scene. No 822 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 1: one else had this experience. All right, well, I just 823 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: remember that sense of was your acting class in the 824 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 1: back of a van? Are they smoking? This would have 825 00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,360 Speaker 1: been Young Actors Space. This would have been in Berkeley, 826 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 1: I was taking an acting class. But no, it didn't have. 827 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 1: But I mean, I don't think I didn't. And when 828 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: I was in Berkeley because I was on like eleven 829 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 1: or twelve. But I remember older kids in like plays 830 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: or acting or like presenting a scene, they would commit 831 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: and you would, you know, have to kiss. Then you 832 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 1: think your first kid, the first kiss you see when 833 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: we see you on boy is going to be probably 834 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 1: my first. I've never thought about it. That's so weird. 835 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: We'll have to nail it down when it happens. Marguerite, 836 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 1: You've been in so many things over the years. Do 837 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 1: people ever still recognize you from Boy Meat's World? Absolutely? Really? Absolutely. 838 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: In fact, I just did my first con a couple 839 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 1: of months ago and my agent like printed out a 840 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 1: picture and was like this, and I was like this 841 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 1: really and He's like, watch, totally totally moved. Oh god, 842 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,320 Speaker 1: I can't remember I was wearing the white tights. Yeah, 843 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 1: probably something in the kitchen. I bet something from standing 844 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 1: in the kitchen. I think it's like a picture of 845 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: like you, me, Mama, and whoever was the other person 846 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 1: in it. Well, I will see one last thing about 847 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: this if it's okay. Um. Just thinking about an intimacy 848 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: coordinator and about how exciting it is to be a 849 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 1: young person, or it was for me a young person 850 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,879 Speaker 1: to be having all these feelings but also being a professional, like, 851 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 1: oh I get to do some kissing. I get to 852 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 1: practice like in a very safe way. I won't be 853 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:34,759 Speaker 1: rejected learning and oh is this how it works? You know, 854 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 1: almost like mirroring what the boys are trying to figure 855 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 1: out in the show. But that also it was very 856 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 1: easy for me to forget it was a job. Like 857 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 1: in Mighty Ducks. I think I was shooting one of 858 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 1: my first scenes where I'm actually talking, and my mom 859 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 1: was like, so you're shooting today, do you know your lines? 860 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,359 Speaker 1: And I was like huh. I like had looked up 861 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 1: out of the scrum of twelve boys who were I 862 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: was the tallest and getting the attention and be like 863 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,799 Speaker 1: are what are we? Is this what's happening? I have 864 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 1: to I have to memory. Isn't summer camp. We're not 865 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:11,359 Speaker 1: just hanging out right, and and so um, I think 866 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 1: it's normal to have those feelings and be excited and 867 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: get a little bit of confused. So to contextualize the 868 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 1: intimacy I think would be helpful, because I'm sure a 869 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 1: lot of habits that I formed because I didn't really 870 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 1: talk and you just know, and you just you know, 871 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 1: they simplify everything on television and you don't really go through, 872 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:30,760 Speaker 1: like I didn't go through the steps of like getting 873 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 1: to know someone as much, you know, like verbally, like 874 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,840 Speaker 1: I didn't. I wasn't making out at parties with everybody 875 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,319 Speaker 1: because it wouldn't wasn't that confident, But it could have 876 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 1: helped me develop more of a a real connection with 877 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,439 Speaker 1: the person rather than like we've been looking at each 878 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:55,319 Speaker 1: other for like three months. Somebody cast you as my girlfriend. Yeah, yeah, 879 00:47:55,360 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 1: exactly right, as the three of us all did making uh. 880 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 1: I mean, I was on all three years of Girl 881 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 1: MEA's World. But writer came back and and reprised his 882 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: role for a little bit on Girl MEA's World, and 883 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,399 Speaker 1: so did Well. You have also recently returned to Mighty 884 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 1: Ducks and you're back with a Disney Plus reboot. What 885 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:13,759 Speaker 1: has it been like getting back on the ice after, 886 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 1: you know, thirty years being away from it. I wish 887 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 1: I was better, but I also kind of get confused. 888 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 1: You know, I spent years in that hockey equipment, so 889 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 1: I would just put everything on and sit down and 890 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,839 Speaker 1: on the bench and immediately revert to a twelve year 891 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,879 Speaker 1: old forget I'm supposed to be playing this mature woman 892 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 1: with things because I had just lulling my head and 893 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:42,319 Speaker 1: screaming up for somebody. It's a great sense memory. It's 894 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 1: such a special thing. You know. You guys know you 895 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 1: went through your young adulthood with with your castmates, and 896 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 1: so they all know you in a way. Whether you 897 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 1: guys are best friends or just keep cabs on each 898 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 1: other or not, you guys all did something together that 899 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,479 Speaker 1: was so special, So to get to come back later 900 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,919 Speaker 1: is outstanding. Plus, we didn't have social media, we didn't 901 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 1: have the internet. All these pictures that we have, all 902 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 1: these stories that we had, we never got to share 903 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: them with a lot of fans and stuff. So it's 904 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 1: really special, like going to the comic concert special too, 905 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,960 Speaker 1: because that connection that you guys get to have them 906 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 1: it's nice. Yeah, it is nice. I want to ask you. 907 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 1: I want to go back just thinking about you being 908 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 1: a child actor, because we've asked almost every child actor 909 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 1: this question. Did you ever experience a time of like 910 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 1: just total burnout? Like started out hot at thirteen years old, 911 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 1: and then by the time your nineteen twenty, you're like, 912 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 1: what am I? I'm just I'm done with this, like 913 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 1: because I stopped getting work, or because like is there 914 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:49,320 Speaker 1: more happening or is for whatever? Did you personally feel 915 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 1: like I'm done with this for a while, Like I 916 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 1: know for for us, for example, boy Meats World ended 917 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 1: and I needed to get ever. I needed to get 918 00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 1: as far away from acting and from audition, shinning and 919 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,279 Speaker 1: from projects as I could. And that started off as 920 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:04,919 Speaker 1: being like I'm just going to take a year off, 921 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,919 Speaker 1: and then it became I'm going to take two years off. 922 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 1: And then once I was ready to start working again, 923 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 1: nobody cared about me anymore and I couldn't get work. 924 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,960 Speaker 1: So then I had like a forced hiatus um. And 925 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 1: then when you do like people do start offering you things, 926 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 1: there are things that are like not at all what 927 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 1: you thought you were going to be doing, and I 928 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,280 Speaker 1: just for now, I've had multiple different types of burnout. 929 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:30,439 Speaker 1: I am just curious if you ever experienced to burnout. Yes, 930 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 1: But I also was kind of given a gift in 931 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:38,080 Speaker 1: that um. I was just raised to just go on automatic. 932 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,440 Speaker 1: You're going to college, and if you didn't go to college, 933 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 1: you're like in my normal high school, I went to 934 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 1: enough high school that it was still like, oh, that 935 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:51,279 Speaker 1: person did not go to college. They're right, Like there 936 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:55,080 Speaker 1: was such simplistic understanding of the different types of education 937 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 1: that you can get. And so I went to vassar 938 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 1: Um on the coast and I did not audition for 939 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,840 Speaker 1: anything unless it was like massive, like almost famous. It 940 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 1: was like, I'm definitely doing that camera crow wants to 941 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 1: have a meeting. Great, But otherwise they were like, what, 942 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:15,880 Speaker 1: you're not going in for law and order and you're 943 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 1: in New York. And I was like, no, I'm going 944 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 1: to college. I'm doing the college thing. I'm going to 945 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 1: get a degree in political science. I'm gonna see if 946 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,360 Speaker 1: I even like acting. And of course it was so 947 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 1: great because it was all everyone my age. It wasn't 948 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 1: about getting paid. I was doing theater in every all 949 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 1: sorts of different kinds of scripts, and you know, running 950 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,880 Speaker 1: to my policy classes like with like sticks in my hair, 951 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:43,359 Speaker 1: from rehearsals like life that really helped me choose it 952 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 1: for myself as an adult, Like I gave myself that time. 953 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 1: And I think that I thought politics was more corrupt 954 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 1: than um. And I know, I know, right, but it 955 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 1: was lucky. I think that the way I was raised 956 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 1: and I didn't find myself in pause Asians where there 957 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 1: was casting couches or things like that. So I'm very 958 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 1: happy um. And then I think that I just then 959 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 1: didn't understand as being a kid actor that like usually 960 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 1: when you get better at something, you keep getting cast 961 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 1: and so you can like say no to things because 962 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:21,799 Speaker 1: you're just not feeling it right now. You're like, oh 963 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 1: no, no no, you should have taken that thing. Oh my god, 964 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god. No, no, it doesn't just last forever. 965 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 1: It's like you and then it just chills and then 966 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,319 Speaker 1: it gets very cold. And then I had to pick 967 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,160 Speaker 1: up the time to try to have a baby for 968 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 1: like five years do that, which you know. I look 969 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 1: now and I'm like, oh wait, I have all the 970 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 1: things I want. So I feel like this is a 971 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:44,359 Speaker 1: new chapter for me, um, coming into an older look 972 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,880 Speaker 1: as well. You guys are also youthful. We're also youthful 973 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,040 Speaker 1: thinks a while for sort of like our age to 974 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 1: get caught up with like where we should be castingwise. 975 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,759 Speaker 1: I'm kind of think about all that, and I just 976 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,240 Speaker 1: keep thinking, do I love acting? Doesn't make me happy? 977 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,719 Speaker 1: What is my purpose? Why do I like to make stories? 978 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 1: And is it giving the best of myself so that 979 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,760 Speaker 1: helps me in the leanard times? Take the ride, I think, 980 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,240 Speaker 1: great answer, great answer, Thank you for that. My body 981 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 1: caught up to my age really quick. That's all I 982 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,919 Speaker 1: was thinking about. I hurt my I hurt my foot 983 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 1: the other day. I still don't know how, no idea. 984 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,319 Speaker 1: It just hurts. It just all hurts, Marguerite, But look 985 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 1: at that, Look at that. Thank you so much for 986 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,239 Speaker 1: being here with us. Um really interesting and wonderful and 987 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,440 Speaker 1: sightful to get your perspective on your two weeks on 988 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,279 Speaker 1: set with us as we entered the new show of 989 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,319 Speaker 1: season two. Uh so, yeah, thank you for taking the 990 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 1: time to be with us, and I hope to see 991 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,239 Speaker 1: you again soon. Maybe we'll see you at a con. 992 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 1: I know I appreciate that you guys are going through 993 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 1: your old work with both candor and delight, and just 994 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,600 Speaker 1: remember to be gentle on yourselves. But also it's really 995 00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,080 Speaker 1: good to do it together as a cast because you 996 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 1: guys can support each other because it's a pretty vulnerable 997 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 1: thing that you did then and now, do you know 998 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 1: that's exactly right? Thank you again, Marguerite. I thought it 999 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 1: was really cute. Will that that the majority of the 1000 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 1: feeling that she had from and her memory from it 1001 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 1: was just like I was really excited and I got 1002 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 1: to make out with you, and yeah, it was some 1003 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:27,320 Speaker 1: uncomfortable like adults, I guess, And then she even said 1004 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 1: she was like I just kind of looked at it 1005 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,319 Speaker 1: like my prize for all this discomfort was that I 1006 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 1: got to kiss you. It just so sweet. It is 1007 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 1: very sweet. It is very very sweet. I remember feeling 1008 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 1: that too, and it's I I had the same thought 1009 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,479 Speaker 1: earlier this week along with like, you know, the thoughts 1010 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,760 Speaker 1: I had watching White Lotus was like I actually remember 1011 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 1: being also very excited to like have girls on the 1012 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 1: show and be able to, like she said, sort of 1013 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,440 Speaker 1: have this safe space to like, you know, where it's 1014 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 1: like we kind of have to kiss each other. But 1015 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 1: you also a lot of times I didn't want to 1016 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 1: kiss people, you know. Um, there was a sort of 1017 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 1: there was that corollary to it, that scort. It needs 1018 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,360 Speaker 1: to be said, because I feel like we've emphasized so 1019 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 1: much of the negative um that I think there was 1020 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,879 Speaker 1: some you know, it's almost kissing is always fun. Yeah, 1021 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 1: of course, I mean, of course it is with it 1022 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,560 Speaker 1: now for instance, though like now, I would be like 1023 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 1: life and yeah, I mean you know what I mean, 1024 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,080 Speaker 1: I don't really like acting. I would feel more, Yeah, 1025 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 1: but I feel more as because I'm an adult. I'm 1026 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,839 Speaker 1: so I'm so comfortable in my own body that i'd 1027 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 1: be I'd be more. It would be me present, more 1028 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 1: present as an actor, as opposed to like my awkward 1029 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 1: teenage self kind of going through everything. Um. But no, 1030 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,360 Speaker 1: I mean again, this was the only time, and I 1031 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,799 Speaker 1: will say this, this is we I certainly didn't want 1032 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 1: to make any sort of it didn't want to make 1033 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 1: it seem like our set was dominated by a bunch 1034 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 1: of old, disgusting men, because that's it's not accurate. I mean, 1035 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,760 Speaker 1: it's just not an accurate interpretation. And this in this case, 1036 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,359 Speaker 1: it was odd that there was a bunch of bands 1037 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,359 Speaker 1: standing around us trying to kind of decipher how we 1038 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,280 Speaker 1: were going to do this scene. And it was frankly, 1039 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 1: the only time that happened normally it was just you. 1040 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:04,520 Speaker 1: It didn't the scene that you kissed somebody and you 1041 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,600 Speaker 1: end up kissing somebody. Um, that also really stopped for 1042 00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,280 Speaker 1: my character. Uh, you know, by the time Eric became dumb, 1043 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,440 Speaker 1: all the girls went away, there were there was I 1044 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,919 Speaker 1: don't think I had a kissing scene after season three 1045 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,840 Speaker 1: or four. Yeah, they gave you Matt Lawrence instead. Exact 1046 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,799 Speaker 1: exactly what about with Maitland. Did you guys ever date 1047 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,359 Speaker 1: on the show? And trying to remember it was Matt 1048 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 1: and her character that the show she dated Matt. No, 1049 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:32,239 Speaker 1: I never once. Once Eric became the fun like kind 1050 00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,879 Speaker 1: of the funny foil, there was never another kissing scene 1051 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,200 Speaker 1: ever again, which was right around the time where you 1052 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 1: and Trino were making out like all the time, all 1053 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, so it was this was this was 1054 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:43,880 Speaker 1: a very That's why that's why it was so jarring 1055 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 1: for me. I guess it's just because it was in 1056 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 1: the early part of the show. It was when I 1057 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,359 Speaker 1: was younger. Um, but later when it comes back, I wasn't. 1058 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,600 Speaker 1: I didn't do any kissing at all. And by the 1059 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,719 Speaker 1: time we got to the later seasons where Ben and 1060 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,960 Speaker 1: I were already an established couple. But then we'd have 1061 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,279 Speaker 1: like our breakup scene, you know, our breakup episodes, where 1062 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:00,640 Speaker 1: we would go out with other people and I'd get 1063 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 1: to make out with somebody else I would get. I 1064 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 1: would be thrilled. And not that I did not mean 1065 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,520 Speaker 1: that in any sort of a way to sound disparaging 1066 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,480 Speaker 1: to Ben, but it was like Ben and I had 1067 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,320 Speaker 1: very much established that, Yeah, that was the person I 1068 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 1: kissed every week. It was as if you had had Yeah, 1069 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 1: I was. I was in a basically married TV kissing relationship. 1070 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,560 Speaker 1: And then like there'd be a new guy and I'd think, 1071 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,600 Speaker 1: I wonder what's gonna be I wonder what he looks like. 1072 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,280 Speaker 1: I wonder if we're gonna have a brush on each other, 1073 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,480 Speaker 1: And yeah, I'd be thrilled. I'd be like, oh, look 1074 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,280 Speaker 1: at this guy. And then you get to be in 1075 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 1: the schoolroom together and you start thinking like is their 1076 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,600 Speaker 1: chemistry or we you know, Yeah, I mean there's definitely 1077 00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,120 Speaker 1: all that. It just I know, for me, I was 1078 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 1: I guess I was a late bloomer because it just 1079 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,640 Speaker 1: it was not happening for me at twelve, and even 1080 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,520 Speaker 1: at thirteen, I just remember feeling out of my element. 1081 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,600 Speaker 1: But by the time I got to be fifteen sixteen, 1082 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,320 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I mean you know, then you 1083 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 1: then you go to Islands with your mom's after and 1084 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:50,880 Speaker 1: your mom's take a bunch of pictures of you and 1085 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,520 Speaker 1: you end up with four photo albums like I have 1086 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:58,160 Speaker 1: of just hot guys in random hot guys, and you 1087 00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,360 Speaker 1: know how you hit certain age. So I was also 1088 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 1: a late bloomer, but now I know I've hit the 1089 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,960 Speaker 1: age were The only thing about your story that resonated 1090 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,360 Speaker 1: with me was how good the fries and burgers were. 1091 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:11,720 Speaker 1: It man that that they toast the buns and there's 1092 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:15,640 Speaker 1: a crunch to him and probably probably butter lettuce. That's 1093 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,320 Speaker 1: where you're supposed to use You're right now, it is 1094 00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,800 Speaker 1: butter let us get home. That's that's that's the age 1095 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 1: of Matt now. Or we're talking about making out and 1096 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:28,720 Speaker 1: the only thing going through my head, it's like when 1097 00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:29,920 Speaker 1: we were going to do our when we were going 1098 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 1: to do our Christmas Day, I almost said, so, we're 1099 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 1: just gonna go to like a chain like t g 1100 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,480 Speaker 1: I Fridays or Ruby Tuesday. Where we're going I just 1101 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,520 Speaker 1: I don't know the cheesecake factory. I was like, I know, 1102 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,560 Speaker 1: you guys both love that, So if we're going to 1103 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 1: do a dinner, maybe we should just do that. Yeah, 1104 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,640 Speaker 1: and we had a good time. I love I'm on 1105 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,000 Speaker 1: page thirty one of the menu, cheesecake. That's good. It 1106 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,600 Speaker 1: gets good. It's getting good. I'm just out of the apps, 1107 00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,280 Speaker 1: so yeah, it gets good. By about chapter six X, 1108 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:05,280 Speaker 1: you get the sandwiches and it takes off. All right. Well, 1109 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,000 Speaker 1: thank you guys for joining us for this episode of 1110 00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:08,960 Speaker 1: Pod Meets World. As always, you can follow us on 1111 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 1: Instagram pod meets World Show. You can send us your 1112 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,479 Speaker 1: emails at pod meets World Show at gmail dot com 1113 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,880 Speaker 1: and we have got have you heard about it? Merch 1114 00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:21,920 Speaker 1: Mark pod meets World show dot com. Thanks for joining us. 1115 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 1: We will see you all next time. 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