WEBVTT - They Put Shampoo Bottles Where? 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:08.760 What's up. It's episode three. Andrew saw us on the side. 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:09.399 Oh. 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:12.000 I like the way you said that you're so long 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:14.600 gone go it again. You also had your own big announcement. 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:16.919 Oh we mentioned it last episode, but I think you 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:18.280 should hit it again because this is a big deal. 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:20.239 By the way, this is my producer, Andrew producer for 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:23.360 the moment. Hot Oh wow, you have you have bigger 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:24.040 things to do. 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:26.079 But you know what, I am loving being here with you. 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:29.880 And yes, gandhi to piggyback off. That are my podcast, 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:32.400 Serial Killers is so many for best Food Podcast at 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:36.280 the twenty twenty four iHeartRadio Podcast Awards. 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:39.560 And you'll find out when Oh my god, really. 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:43.080 Yeah, we're nominated next to like these huge food podcasts. 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:45.680 And then there's like me and Scotty's jankity like serial 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:47.280 podcast we've been doing for like four years. 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:49.440 I love your podcast, thank kidding. It's awesome and you 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:52.280 guys make me laugh, as evidenced in the last episode, 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:54.320 a little bit unhinged, but I'm here for it. 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:56.920 Some of them are with like famous chefs and like 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:59.440 by like award winning journalists, and then you got me 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:00.200 and Scotty. 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:02.440 Which I think is actually I think that could be 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:04.320 great though, because you guys are kind of like the offshoot, 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:08.039 the alternative. Yeah to the mainstream like Eva Longoria. Man, 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.400 of course, sounds like a shoe in right, But maybe 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:12.480 it's time for the indie stuff to take over. 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:15.920 Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Like, we're really the lowest 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:18.679 man on the totem pole in terms of the podcasts nominated, 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:21.480 so Underdog Story it's a great place to be our 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:22.520 slum dog millionaire. 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:22.920 Yay. 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:24.760 I'm so excited for you guys, and I hope it 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:25.200 works out. 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:26.000 I can't wait. 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:29.200 Fingers crossed. All right, So today I am super excited, 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:31.479 and I know you're super excited. Why don't you give 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:33.319 a little background real quick because we're gonna let her 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:35.320 introduce herself and do all of that. But how did 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:36.520 you find our next guest? 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.280 I have been in love with Nicoley and jemmy Instagram 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:42.200 page four years. I've just been fascinated by it. She's 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:48.600 posted the craziest things. And so you started this podcast 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:51.800 and I said to myself self, what better blend of 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:53.240 weirdness could I put together? 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:54.760 Oh? 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:57.440 And I am just so excited. She said, yes, she 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:00.400 was super down for it, so I can't wait to 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:02.640 have her on to talk all things dead bodies. 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:07.680 Let's just bring her in. Yeah, you know what I 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.600 was going to introduce you, But why don't you introduce 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:12.680 what you do so I don't get it wrong? 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:18.320 Okay? Hi, I am a pathologists assistant, So I have 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:22.480 spent my training in my career doing autopsies and dissecting 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:24.360 organs from surgeries. 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:27.680 Which is incredible. Now you, through doing this, have as 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:32.280 a massive following on Instagram. Yes, you have your own 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:36.280 podcast right, And you have a book that I got 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:39.359 the other day. It's called Nicole and Jemmy's Anatomy Book, 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:43.280 The Catalog of Familiar, Rare and Unusual Pathologies. It has 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.120 a warning sticker on the front because of graphic content, 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:48.880 and when you open it, I mean, I've just I've 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:51.040 flagged pages here because I look at some of these 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:53.000 things and I'm like, I might have that. I know 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:54.440 I'm not dead yet, but when I read all of 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:56.440 these things, I might just have diagnosed myself with it. 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:59.480 How did you get to where you are right now? 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.760 So I had my daughter who's here with us today, 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:06.120 when I was in ninth grade and I had to 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:08.680 go to college and get a job because I needed 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:11.680 health insurance for her. So I was really bad in 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.880 school and I but I thought, I have to go 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:17.119 to college and just become a nurse so I could 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:20.080 get insurance. It's like the quickest amount of time to 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:22.920 go to school and get a job. And I started 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:26.760 college for nursing school, and as soon as I took biology, 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.200 I started using the microscope for the first time in 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:31.680 my life. Cause you have to remember I had my 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:33.840 daughter in high school and then I dropped out, so 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:37.800 I never took like normal classes. And then I fell 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:39.960 in love with the microscope on the very first day, 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:42.760 and I asked my teacher, Hey, is there a job 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:45.480 I could get like looking under the microscope all day? 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:48.720 And it kind of went from there, and I figured 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.640 out this job called cytotechnology, which is looking at sales 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:54.960 under the microscope and like getting pap smears. I'm sure 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:58.160 you've had them everywhere woman has helpfully, so yeah, I 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:00.760 was like the person looking at them to for cancer 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:04.280 and stuff. And I always tell this story of one 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:06.320 day I was working and there was a commotion in 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:10.120 the hallway and there was really this really horrible smell, 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.880 something I've never smelled before. It wasn't poop, it wasn't 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:17.400 p It just was like a funky smell. And when 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:19.159 I went to see what the commotion was, all the 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.360 people were standing in the hallway saying that the leg 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:25.200 refrigerator broke and it was leaking. And I was like, 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:28.599 I was like, wait, what's a leg refrigerator? What are 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:31.360 you talking about? And I go over there and there's 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.719 this refrigerator that looks like something you would see in 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:35.840 a pizza shop that has all the sodas lined up, 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:38.960 but instead there was like these amputated legs wrapped up 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.600 in biohazard bags but like the shape of a leg, 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:45.440 just laying in like five of them inside of this refrigerator. 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:49.279 I was like, what, what's happening over here? Right now? 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:51.400 This is this is like mind blowing to me. And 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:54.680 then I saw people at cutting boards with giant ovaries 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:58.360 and appendixes and gallbladders and stuff. And then right at 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:00.640 that moment, I was like, I want to work over here. 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:03.719 And then I went back to school got my education 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:06.080 that I needed to, and that's how I got into it. 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:09.400 Okay, so I have two questions about that. One, what 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:11.960 is there a refrigerator full of legs for. 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:17.960 So normally when you send something down to surgical pathology, 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:20.440 it'll come in a jar in formaldehyde, which keeps it 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:22.960 preserved so it doesn't rock. Because when you cut off 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:25.160 body parts, they rot, just like meat would rot if 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:29.200 you didn't have it, which is fine, but obviously a 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:31.440 leg you can't stick in a jar. It's too big. 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:34.400 So anything we also stuck other things like if people 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:37.279 got really big tummy tucks or something like big pieces 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:39.760 of skin or anything that we couldn't fit in a 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:41.440 jar would go in the fridge. 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:43.360 Okay, that was the first question. I have so many 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:45.640 as this starts to go, we're gonna have a million. 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:47.800 What was the smell? 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:53.279 It was like decomposition of these was a fridge bad? 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:53.840 What was going on? 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:58.120 The fridge was broken, and it was the legs had 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:02.479 been overnight just based sitting in room temperature. And these 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:05.000 legs are cut off most of the time anyway because 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:08.120 the person has gangerine, so they already smell as it is, 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:12.479 and then just yeah, just like not being refrigerated just 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:16.320 further enhances the decomposition process. So that's what it was. 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:18.000 It was the smell of decomposition. 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.279 So you smelled that you saw that, and you were like, 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:21.960 you know what this is for me? 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:22.839 Yeah, And the. 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:28.000 Doctor that was running the pathology department was trying to 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:29.760 talk me out of it. He's like, you come to 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:31.839 work every day and you wear a clean coat and 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:34.160 you sit at a cubicle and look at slides. You're 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:36.960 going to have to touch poop blood. You're going to 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.240 be dirty. And I was like, yeah, this is this, 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:41.000 this is it? 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:43.400 Is there anything at this point that can gross you out? 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:47.279 Not really, like if I would get this is kind 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:49.920 of crazy to think this. Getting an ampultated leg doesn't 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:52.039 bother me at all. But sometimes they come with like 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:55.719 maggots on them and stuff. Oh, and thinking about the 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:57.719 fact that that was just attached to a person that 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:01.560 was alive, really bob, And it makes me have this 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:04.360 like skin crawley sensation that I have to go home 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:07.360 and take a shower. But other than that, like, no, 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:08.599 I not really. 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:10.240 Does that mean the maggots were on the human one 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:11.080 the human was alive. 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:14.560 Yes, If you have a wound like a diabetic ulcer 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:17.040 or something on your foot and flies can land on 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:19.760 there and lay eggs, and maggots could hatch and sometimes 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:22.560 you lose the feeling in your leg. And people that 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.120 are older and it's the summer whatever, they don't have 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:28.840 a caretaker. So yeah, I would get that leg. Like 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:31.680 in surgical pathology, the person's still alive, they just had 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.840 surgery to remove the leg, and it would have maggots 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:37.679 on it still, Oh my god, and it's just yeah. 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.320 I mean, I actually feel worse for nurses that have 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:42.560 to take care of patients that have things like that 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:45.680 and wrap their wound with a smile. Like at least 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:48.640 in pathology you could be like, ugh, this is nasty. 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:50.680 And you know, wait before we go any further here, 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:53.000 drop your Instagram name so that people if they're listening 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:54.560 to this and they also want to go check out 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:56.160 your instagram and see some of the stuff that we're 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:56.640 talking about. 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.600 Okay, it's my name, basically, it's missus and then underscore 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:01.480 and G E M I. 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.240 And there's some stuff on there. I was creeping through 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:06.800 and thought, oh my goodness, you just do this every day, 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:09.240 never any nightmares, never any issues with it. 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:11.040 Nah. 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:12.160 Does that scare your kids? 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:13.160 Yeah? 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:15.600 I mean the thing is is that my kids always 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:17.600 because I don't let them have phones yet because they're 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:19.320 nine and ten. But they always want to go on 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.440 my phone, so they'll grab my phone and I have 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:24.200 like eighty thousand photos on my phone, so they always 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:27.240 come across something and they're like, what is that? But 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:30.559 it's normal. Every one of my family knows that that's 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:31.800 my life. 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:33.400 So through all of this, I mean, you have to 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:37.960 have learned so much about human anatomy, about crime. I'm 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:40.080 sure in some ways do you guys ever dive into 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.680 that and help figure out what happened to this person? 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:45.200 Yeah, So part of our training for school was to 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:48.280 do forensics, so we all spent time at the medical 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:51.280 Examiner's office. I was there for one summer doing autopsies 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:56.400 from homicides and suicides and accidents. Also in surgical pathology, 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:58.520 people don't realize this a lot of times, so we 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:01.160 do get friendsic specimens because people get shot all the time, 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.360 but they survive. So they'll you know, cut out a 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:05.280 piece of the small intestine and send it down to 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:08.720 the lab and we have to look at the gunshot wound. 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.600 Sometimes there's been a rare occasion where there was a 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.920 projectile still inside of the bell or something that we 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:18.440 have to then hand over to police and so it's 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:21.960 it's cool. And also people get in accidents all the time. 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:24.840 I was in Philadelphia, so one time we had a 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:28.079 person that was run over by except the had an amputation, 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:31.520 and so we would get like traumatic amputations too. 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:34.200 So when you're doing all of this and you say, okay, 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:36.920 let's recover maybe a bullet or something from this piece 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.480 of whatever part of the body it was, do you 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.520 guys ever help to actually solve the crime like they 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:44.920 do on TV, like, oh, the medical examiner said, blah 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:47.040 blah blah, so this is what must have happened or 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:48.240 is that all just really hyped. 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.320 Up for teams? No, it doesn't, it doesn't really work 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:52.920 like that. Like we will put our findings of where 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.360 we found an entrance wound or something like that, and 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:58.680 then that would be like something they need to decide. 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:02.400 Usually that's done by like a completely different crime lab 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:05.800 or something like that, and investigators on that end. I 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:08.240 would not particularly, I just say what I see and 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:10.320 that's it, and they take that information and do what 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:11.080 they want with it. 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:12.920 So when you're watching I don't know, do you watch 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:14.560 her crime? Do you watch you know any of these? 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:16.719 Like well, my mom used to my mom and Dad 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:18.800 used to watch CSI all the time, and I would 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:20.520 just get up and walk. I'm just like, this is 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:24.040 such bullshit, Like they would just do these things that 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.920 would take normally months for people in an episode, and 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:28.440 it just would annoy me. 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:32.840 You know, when you hear celebrity stories about certain people 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:36.000 who have passed away, do you have immediate guesses? I mean, 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:37.720 there have been some crime scene photos that have come 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:41.200 out which are very disturbing. But do you look at 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:43.319 these things and think, oh, I know what went down 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:43.760 over here? 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.079 So I do every I have a website called the 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:49.080 Grossroom dot com okay, and every week I do a 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:52.000 celebrity death dissection. I say, and I go over a 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.920 celebrity death and I go into detail, like what they 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.960 found at the scene, like what the autopsy might look 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:00.319 like like some of the finding because I get the 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.200 autopsy reports most of them are public, and I just 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:05.320 look and say, like, this is what their autopsy would 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:06.920 have looked like, this is the things that we would 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:11.800 have seen with this person. Every single time you'll hear someone, oh, 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:14.160 they died a cardiac arrest, and then I'm like, yeah, 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:16.760 no shit, their heart stopped. Oh wow, that's how they died. 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.360 That's how everybody dies, Like, you don't die from what 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:22.640 caused them to go into cardiac ress. Like I always 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.360 want to know those questions. So yeah, I'm like always 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:27.640 on it because it's very fascinating to me. 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:30.280 So what are some of the more fascinating celebrity deaths? 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:32.080 Because I think that there are a lot of people 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:36.040 who don't understand until maybe just now exactly what you said. 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:38.160 Cardiac arrest is kind of a cop out as far 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.200 as your cause of death, because yeah, everybody's heart's going 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:43.400 to stop, that's what kills you and your brain activity stopping, right, Yeah, 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:47.320 So which celebrities have you been blown away by some 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:48.000 of the stuff that Well? 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:51.600 I just did a really interesting one last week on 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.040 Mike Williams. He was an NFL player who died at 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:57.199 thirty six years old, and that was kind of shocking 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:00.520 because anytime anybody dies that you're young, you're like, what happened? 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.480 Oh my god, they're younger than me. And here he 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:07.720 had brain abscesses in his head and that is an 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.920 infection like a collection of pus, and so whenever you 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:13.559 see that at autopsy, you're gonna say, what caused this? 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:17.040 Infection because normal, healthy young people especially do not just 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:19.719 get infections like that in their brain. And then when 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:22.120 they backtracked, they found that it stemmed from a tooth 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:27.080 infection and really so he had like poor dental care. 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:30.480 Wasn't just going getting cleanings and getting cavities filled, and 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:34.679 ultimately that infection led to his brain infection and killed him. 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:37.400 So I thought that that was it's interesting to cover 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:39.560 that because a lot of people don't realize how important 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:42.000 your teeth are and how they could kill you if 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.320 you don't take care of them. So that was just 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:47.200 one example of like one of the more interesting ones 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:47.959 that I've covered. 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:49.880 I mean, that just blew my mind. I had no 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:51.800 idea that was even possible. I was thinking, oh, some 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:52.600 type of CTE. 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.719 Yeah, So it's it's cool to like because people the 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:58.679 cases are more known and then you could really sit 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:01.679 there and break it down and say what happened. It 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:04.400 was like with Lisa Marie Presley, for instance, she had 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.000 this small ball obstruction, and then you say, well, what 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:10.440 would have caused small ball obstruction? And then you know 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:13.040 that you when you have surgeries, you get scarring and 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.760 adhesions just like you would get on your skin, and 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:18.679 sometimes it could cause one of your organs, like you're intestine, 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:21.240 to stick to the inside wall of your abdomen and 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:24.960 then the poop can't flow through correctly anymore because it 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:27.000 Think about like if you have a hose in your 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.280 hand and you kink it, the water doesn't get through. 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:31.840 It's the same kind of thing with your bow, and 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:33.839 that could cause you to die. 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:45.240 So you've got was it Mike Williams, Yeah, so he said, 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:49.120 and Alisa Marie Presley. Have there been any other celebrity 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:52.040 cases where it was reported one way and then when 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.040 you look at the case, you think, this is actually 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:56.600 very different than the way it was reported. 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.480 Oh, for Bob Saggat, for example, that was a big 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.080 thing that they were trying to say, you know that 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:04.760 it was related to the COVID vaccine at first, and 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.000 all this stuff that they went down that hill. And 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:10.720 then when I heard that he had this, that he 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:14.240 had this traumatic brain injury essentially, like I thought, okay, 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:16.280 well that's what happened, like he had to have hit 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:18.920 his head on something. And we discussed that, and there 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:23.600 was lots of people online saying certain things, and I thought, like, no, 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:25.680 you didn't you didn't look at the They were saying 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:27.560 he had to be murdered, he had to be hit 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:30.080 with a baseball bat or something significant, and I was 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:32.840 just like, nah, dude, this is he bumped his head 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:35.680 on the headboard or something. If his wife was there 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.840 with him or something, or someone was with him, they 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.720 would have noticed maybe that he wasn't okay and would 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:43.400 have called and he could have went to the hospital 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:46.120 and survived that. It just was a matter of being 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:50.080 alone and going to sleep. And after something like that, God, 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:53.280 how sad. Yeah, it is sad when stuff like that happened. 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:57.960 So with all of your background in medicine and pathology, 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:01.560 I'll say, how frustrated is it to you when things 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:04.320 like that do happen where there's clear evidence of what 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:06.440 went down, But then you have all the conspiracy theory 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:08.560 people popping out of the woodwork and saying, well, obviously 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:11.760 that was a complication of example, a COVID vaccine. Does 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:13.320 that drive you nuts? Yeah? 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.840 It does. I just try to I try to ignore 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:17.320 it because I don't want to. I don't want to 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:19.000 be like one of those troll type people that go 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:21.000 on people's page and try to call them out that 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:24.160 they're wrong or whatever. I'm just like my husband always 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:27.080 is telling me, just worry about things that you have 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:29.720 control over, you know, And it's something it's a constant 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:32.880 lesson in my life to just try to ignore that 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:33.600 kind of stuff. 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.120 So, now, looking at all of these people who you 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.320 deal in the dead, all these people who have died, 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:40.000 do you ever take a look at someone who is 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:43.280 living and say, I can see right now that there's 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:46.000 something going on? Yeah, yeah, what are some of the 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:48.680 biggest signs that you see or biggest red flags that 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:49.720 you see in people who are alive? 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.640 Still, just certain people, I'll look and see that if 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:55.080 they have like a weird skin lesion. You could see 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:58.600 if people have different kind of like swollen conditions in 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:01.880 their legs. Like a lot of time to my followers 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:05.400 will send me messages and say like, hey, what do 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:07.480 you think about this? And then I'll start asking them 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.640 lots of questions like I don't ever diagnose people or 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:12.760 give people. I guess I would say I do give 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:14.720 them medical advice as far as like you need to 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:17.040 try to make it a doctor's appointment with this person. 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:20.000 I don't ever say, like take this medicine or anything. 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:22.680 I just try to guide them like where I think 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:26.240 they need to go next, because they're not getting answers 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:27.560 where they're currently at. 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.440 So you know, that's very kind of you. It's also 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:31.240 got to be exhausting. 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:35.560 Well, I feel bad for people because people are going 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:38.360 through stuff sometimes and I'll say, send me your your 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:40.200 blood work and your CT work and I look at 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:42.560 it and the answer is like pretty obvious to me, 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.960 like where the next testing or something should be. But 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:48.280 the way the medical system is set up, it's like 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:50.920 you go to this doctor sometimes you need a referral 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:53.160 for this doctor. You can't get into this doctor for 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.720 six months. Like I wish there was a way to 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:58.520 kind of cut the bullshit for people because people are 0:16:58.720 --> 0:16:59.760 suffering with stuff. 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:01.760 I feel like I could quiz you about this stuff 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.000 all day, not even quizzy. I'm just so fascinated by 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:05.280 what it is that you're doing and all the things 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:07.639 that you see every day. I mean, what's some of 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:10.600 the strangest stuff that you've had to remove from either 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:12.160 a body or a body part. 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:15.600 So we people don't realize this either, but if you 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:18.000 go to the emergency room, like if your kid swallows 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:19.720 a quarter, they're gonna take the quarter out of the 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.640 kid and send it to pathology. Everything that gets taken out. 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:25.359 So if you get your implants switched out, we get 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:28.080 the old implants. If you get a new hip replacement, 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:31.240 we get the old hip replacement hardware taken from your back. 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:36.159 And also we get really crazy stuff like like foreign 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:38.879 bodies that usually men stick up their ass and like 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:40.200 it gets stuck. 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:42.680 Always men, right, and it's always but mostly men. 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:46.000 It's always it's it's usually men, and it's usually men 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:48.960 because they have a prostate land and it's like the 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:52.440 clitterisa for a man. Right, So like they just instead 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:55.639 of us just talking about like men like butt whole pleasures, 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:57.760 like we can't. So they have to do these secret 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:01.280