Speaker 1: What's up. It's episode three. Andrew saw us on the side.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: I like the way you said that you're so long
Speaker 1: gone go it again. You also had your own big announcement.
Speaker 1: Oh we mentioned it last episode, but I think you
Speaker 1: should hit it again because this is a big deal.
Speaker 1: By the way, this is my producer, Andrew producer for
Speaker 1: the moment. Hot Oh wow, you have you have bigger
Speaker 1: things to do.
Speaker 3: But you know what, I am loving being here with you.
Speaker 3: And yes, gandhi to piggyback off. That are my podcast,
Speaker 3: Serial Killers is so many for best Food Podcast at
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty four iHeartRadio Podcast Awards.
Speaker 1: And you'll find out when Oh my god, really.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're nominated next to like these huge food podcasts.
Speaker 3: And then there's like me and Scotty's jankity like serial
Speaker 3: podcast we've been doing for like four years.
Speaker 1: I love your podcast, thank kidding. It's awesome and you
Speaker 1: guys make me laugh, as evidenced in the last episode,
Speaker 1: a little bit unhinged, but I'm here for it.
Speaker 3: Some of them are with like famous chefs and like
Speaker 3: by like award winning journalists, and then you got me
Speaker 3: and Scotty.
Speaker 1: Which I think is actually I think that could be
Speaker 1: great though, because you guys are kind of like the offshoot,
Speaker 1: the alternative. Yeah to the mainstream like Eva Longoria. Man,
Speaker 1: of course, sounds like a shoe in right, But maybe
Speaker 1: it's time for the indie stuff to take over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Like, we're really the lowest
Speaker 3: man on the totem pole in terms of the podcasts nominated,
Speaker 3: so Underdog Story it's a great place to be our
Speaker 3: slum dog millionaire.
Speaker 2: Yay.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited for you guys, and I hope it
Speaker 1: works out.
Speaker 4: I can't wait.
Speaker 1: Fingers crossed. All right, So today I am super excited,
Speaker 1: and I know you're super excited. Why don't you give
Speaker 1: a little background real quick because we're gonna let her
Speaker 1: introduce herself and do all of that. But how did
Speaker 1: you find our next guest?
Speaker 3: I have been in love with Nicoley and jemmy Instagram
Speaker 3: page four years. I've just been fascinated by it. She's
Speaker 3: posted the craziest things. And so you started this podcast
Speaker 3: and I said to myself self, what better blend of
Speaker 3: weirdness could I put together?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: And I am just so excited. She said, yes, she
Speaker 3: was super down for it, so I can't wait to
Speaker 3: have her on to talk all things dead bodies.
Speaker 1: Let's just bring her in. Yeah, you know what I
Speaker 1: was going to introduce you, But why don't you introduce
Speaker 1: what you do so I don't get it wrong?
Speaker 4: Okay? Hi, I am a pathologists assistant, So I have
Speaker 4: spent my training in my career doing autopsies and dissecting
Speaker 4: organs from surgeries.
Speaker 1: Which is incredible. Now you, through doing this, have as
Speaker 1: a massive following on Instagram. Yes, you have your own
Speaker 1: podcast right, And you have a book that I got
Speaker 1: the other day. It's called Nicole and Jemmy's Anatomy Book,
Speaker 1: The Catalog of Familiar, Rare and Unusual Pathologies. It has
Speaker 1: a warning sticker on the front because of graphic content,
Speaker 1: and when you open it, I mean, I've just I've
Speaker 1: flagged pages here because I look at some of these
Speaker 1: things and I'm like, I might have that. I know
Speaker 1: I'm not dead yet, but when I read all of
Speaker 1: these things, I might just have diagnosed myself with it.
Speaker 1: How did you get to where you are right now?
Speaker 4: So I had my daughter who's here with us today,
Speaker 4: when I was in ninth grade and I had to
Speaker 4: go to college and get a job because I needed
Speaker 4: health insurance for her. So I was really bad in
Speaker 4: school and I but I thought, I have to go
Speaker 4: to college and just become a nurse so I could
Speaker 4: get insurance. It's like the quickest amount of time to
Speaker 4: go to school and get a job. And I started
Speaker 4: college for nursing school, and as soon as I took biology,
Speaker 4: I started using the microscope for the first time in
Speaker 4: my life. Cause you have to remember I had my
Speaker 4: daughter in high school and then I dropped out, so
Speaker 4: I never took like normal classes. And then I fell
Speaker 4: in love with the microscope on the very first day,
Speaker 4: and I asked my teacher, Hey, is there a job
Speaker 4: I could get like looking under the microscope all day?
Speaker 4: And it kind of went from there, and I figured
Speaker 4: out this job called cytotechnology, which is looking at sales
Speaker 4: under the microscope and like getting pap smears. I'm sure
Speaker 4: you've had them everywhere woman has helpfully, so yeah, I
Speaker 4: was like the person looking at them to for cancer
Speaker 4: and stuff. And I always tell this story of one
Speaker 4: day I was working and there was a commotion in
Speaker 4: the hallway and there was really this really horrible smell,
Speaker 4: something I've never smelled before. It wasn't poop, it wasn't
Speaker 4: p It just was like a funky smell. And when
Speaker 4: I went to see what the commotion was, all the
Speaker 4: people were standing in the hallway saying that the leg
Speaker 4: refrigerator broke and it was leaking. And I was like,
Speaker 4: I was like, wait, what's a leg refrigerator? What are
Speaker 4: you talking about? And I go over there and there's
Speaker 4: this refrigerator that looks like something you would see in
Speaker 4: a pizza shop that has all the sodas lined up,
Speaker 4: but instead there was like these amputated legs wrapped up
Speaker 4: in biohazard bags but like the shape of a leg,
Speaker 4: just laying in like five of them inside of this refrigerator.
Speaker 4: I was like, what, what's happening over here? Right now?
Speaker 4: This is this is like mind blowing to me. And
Speaker 4: then I saw people at cutting boards with giant ovaries
Speaker 4: and appendixes and gallbladders and stuff. And then right at
Speaker 4: that moment, I was like, I want to work over here.
Speaker 4: And then I went back to school got my education
Speaker 4: that I needed to, and that's how I got into it.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I have two questions about that. One, what
Speaker 1: is there a refrigerator full of legs for.
Speaker 4: So normally when you send something down to surgical pathology,
Speaker 4: it'll come in a jar in formaldehyde, which keeps it
Speaker 4: preserved so it doesn't rock. Because when you cut off
Speaker 4: body parts, they rot, just like meat would rot if
Speaker 4: you didn't have it, which is fine, but obviously a
Speaker 4: leg you can't stick in a jar. It's too big.
Speaker 4: So anything we also stuck other things like if people
Speaker 4: got really big tummy tucks or something like big pieces
Speaker 4: of skin or anything that we couldn't fit in a
Speaker 4: jar would go in the fridge.
Speaker 1: Okay, that was the first question. I have so many
Speaker 1: as this starts to go, we're gonna have a million.
Speaker 1: What was the smell?
Speaker 4: It was like decomposition of these was a fridge bad?
Speaker 1: What was going on?
Speaker 4: The fridge was broken, and it was the legs had
Speaker 4: been overnight just based sitting in room temperature. And these
Speaker 4: legs are cut off most of the time anyway because
Speaker 4: the person has gangerine, so they already smell as it is,
Speaker 4: and then just yeah, just like not being refrigerated just
Speaker 4: further enhances the decomposition process. So that's what it was.
Speaker 4: It was the smell of decomposition.
Speaker 1: So you smelled that you saw that, and you were like,
Speaker 1: you know what this is for me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the.
Speaker 4: Doctor that was running the pathology department was trying to
Speaker 4: talk me out of it. He's like, you come to
Speaker 4: work every day and you wear a clean coat and
Speaker 4: you sit at a cubicle and look at slides. You're
Speaker 4: going to have to touch poop blood. You're going to
Speaker 4: be dirty. And I was like, yeah, this is this,
Speaker 4: this is it?
Speaker 1: Is there anything at this point that can gross you out?
Speaker 4: Not really, like if I would get this is kind
Speaker 4: of crazy to think this. Getting an ampultated leg doesn't
Speaker 4: bother me at all. But sometimes they come with like
Speaker 4: maggots on them and stuff. Oh, and thinking about the
Speaker 4: fact that that was just attached to a person that
Speaker 4: was alive, really bob, And it makes me have this
Speaker 4: like skin crawley sensation that I have to go home
Speaker 4: and take a shower. But other than that, like, no,
Speaker 4: I not really.
Speaker 1: Does that mean the maggots were on the human one
Speaker 1: the human was alive.
Speaker 4: Yes, If you have a wound like a diabetic ulcer
Speaker 4: or something on your foot and flies can land on
Speaker 4: there and lay eggs, and maggots could hatch and sometimes
Speaker 4: you lose the feeling in your leg. And people that
Speaker 4: are older and it's the summer whatever, they don't have
Speaker 4: a caretaker. So yeah, I would get that leg. Like
Speaker 4: in surgical pathology, the person's still alive, they just had
Speaker 4: surgery to remove the leg, and it would have maggots
Speaker 4: on it still, Oh my god, and it's just yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, I actually feel worse for nurses that have
Speaker 4: to take care of patients that have things like that
Speaker 4: and wrap their wound with a smile. Like at least
Speaker 4: in pathology you could be like, ugh, this is nasty.
Speaker 1: And you know, wait before we go any further here,
Speaker 1: drop your Instagram name so that people if they're listening
Speaker 1: to this and they also want to go check out
Speaker 1: your instagram and see some of the stuff that we're
Speaker 1: talking about.
Speaker 4: Okay, it's my name, basically, it's missus and then underscore
Speaker 4: and G E M I.
Speaker 1: And there's some stuff on there. I was creeping through
Speaker 1: and thought, oh my goodness, you just do this every day,
Speaker 1: never any nightmares, never any issues with it.
Speaker 4: Nah.
Speaker 1: Does that scare your kids?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean the thing is is that my kids always
Speaker 4: because I don't let them have phones yet because they're
Speaker 4: nine and ten. But they always want to go on
Speaker 4: my phone, so they'll grab my phone and I have
Speaker 4: like eighty thousand photos on my phone, so they always
Speaker 4: come across something and they're like, what is that? But
Speaker 4: it's normal. Every one of my family knows that that's
Speaker 4: my life.
Speaker 1: So through all of this, I mean, you have to
Speaker 1: have learned so much about human anatomy, about crime. I'm
Speaker 1: sure in some ways do you guys ever dive into
Speaker 1: that and help figure out what happened to this person?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So part of our training for school was to
Speaker 4: do forensics, so we all spent time at the medical
Speaker 4: Examiner's office. I was there for one summer doing autopsies
Speaker 4: from homicides and suicides and accidents. Also in surgical pathology,
Speaker 4: people don't realize this a lot of times, so we
Speaker 4: do get friendsic specimens because people get shot all the time,
Speaker 4: but they survive. So they'll you know, cut out a
Speaker 4: piece of the small intestine and send it down to
Speaker 4: the lab and we have to look at the gunshot wound.
Speaker 4: Sometimes there's been a rare occasion where there was a
Speaker 4: projectile still inside of the bell or something that we
Speaker 4: have to then hand over to police and so it's
Speaker 4: it's cool. And also people get in accidents all the time.
Speaker 4: I was in Philadelphia, so one time we had a
Speaker 4: person that was run over by except the had an amputation,
Speaker 4: and so we would get like traumatic amputations too.
Speaker 1: So when you're doing all of this and you say, okay,
Speaker 1: let's recover maybe a bullet or something from this piece
Speaker 1: of whatever part of the body it was, do you
Speaker 1: guys ever help to actually solve the crime like they
Speaker 1: do on TV, like, oh, the medical examiner said, blah
Speaker 1: blah blah, so this is what must have happened or
Speaker 1: is that all just really hyped.
Speaker 4: Up for teams? No, it doesn't, it doesn't really work
Speaker 4: like that. Like we will put our findings of where
Speaker 4: we found an entrance wound or something like that, and
Speaker 4: then that would be like something they need to decide.
Speaker 4: Usually that's done by like a completely different crime lab
Speaker 4: or something like that, and investigators on that end. I
Speaker 4: would not particularly, I just say what I see and
Speaker 4: that's it, and they take that information and do what
Speaker 4: they want with it.
Speaker 1: So when you're watching I don't know, do you watch
Speaker 1: her crime? Do you watch you know any of these?
Speaker 4: Like well, my mom used to my mom and Dad
Speaker 4: used to watch CSI all the time, and I would
Speaker 4: just get up and walk. I'm just like, this is
Speaker 4: such bullshit, Like they would just do these things that
Speaker 4: would take normally months for people in an episode, and
Speaker 4: it just would annoy me.
Speaker 1: You know, when you hear celebrity stories about certain people
Speaker 1: who have passed away, do you have immediate guesses? I mean,
Speaker 1: there have been some crime scene photos that have come
Speaker 1: out which are very disturbing. But do you look at
Speaker 1: these things and think, oh, I know what went down
Speaker 1: over here?
Speaker 4: So I do every I have a website called the
Speaker 4: Grossroom dot com okay, and every week I do a
Speaker 4: celebrity death dissection. I say, and I go over a
Speaker 4: celebrity death and I go into detail, like what they
Speaker 4: found at the scene, like what the autopsy might look
Speaker 4: like like some of the finding because I get the
Speaker 4: autopsy reports most of them are public, and I just
Speaker 4: look and say, like, this is what their autopsy would
Speaker 4: have looked like, this is the things that we would
Speaker 4: have seen with this person. Every single time you'll hear someone, oh,
Speaker 4: they died a cardiac arrest, and then I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 4: no shit, their heart stopped. Oh wow, that's how they died.
Speaker 4: That's how everybody dies, Like, you don't die from what
Speaker 4: caused them to go into cardiac ress. Like I always
Speaker 4: want to know those questions. So yeah, I'm like always
Speaker 4: on it because it's very fascinating to me.
Speaker 1: So what are some of the more fascinating celebrity deaths?
Speaker 1: Because I think that there are a lot of people
Speaker 1: who don't understand until maybe just now exactly what you said.
Speaker 1: Cardiac arrest is kind of a cop out as far
Speaker 1: as your cause of death, because yeah, everybody's heart's going
Speaker 1: to stop, that's what kills you and your brain activity stopping, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: So which celebrities have you been blown away by some
Speaker 1: of the stuff that Well?
Speaker 4: I just did a really interesting one last week on
Speaker 4: Mike Williams. He was an NFL player who died at
Speaker 4: thirty six years old, and that was kind of shocking
Speaker 4: because anytime anybody dies that you're young, you're like, what happened?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, they're younger than me. And here he
Speaker 4: had brain abscesses in his head and that is an
Speaker 4: infection like a collection of pus, and so whenever you
Speaker 4: see that at autopsy, you're gonna say, what caused this?
Speaker 4: Infection because normal, healthy young people especially do not just
Speaker 4: get infections like that in their brain. And then when
Speaker 4: they backtracked, they found that it stemmed from a tooth
Speaker 4: infection and really so he had like poor dental care.
Speaker 4: Wasn't just going getting cleanings and getting cavities filled, and
Speaker 4: ultimately that infection led to his brain infection and killed him.
Speaker 4: So I thought that that was it's interesting to cover
Speaker 4: that because a lot of people don't realize how important
Speaker 4: your teeth are and how they could kill you if
Speaker 4: you don't take care of them. So that was just
Speaker 4: one example of like one of the more interesting ones
Speaker 4: that I've covered.
Speaker 1: I mean, that just blew my mind. I had no
Speaker 1: idea that was even possible. I was thinking, oh, some
Speaker 1: type of CTE.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's it's cool to like because people the
Speaker 4: cases are more known and then you could really sit
Speaker 4: there and break it down and say what happened. It
Speaker 4: was like with Lisa Marie Presley, for instance, she had
Speaker 4: this small ball obstruction, and then you say, well, what
Speaker 4: would have caused small ball obstruction? And then you know
Speaker 4: that you when you have surgeries, you get scarring and
Speaker 4: adhesions just like you would get on your skin, and
Speaker 4: sometimes it could cause one of your organs, like you're intestine,
Speaker 4: to stick to the inside wall of your abdomen and
Speaker 4: then the poop can't flow through correctly anymore because it
Speaker 4: Think about like if you have a hose in your
Speaker 4: hand and you kink it, the water doesn't get through.
Speaker 4: It's the same kind of thing with your bow, and
Speaker 4: that could cause you to die.
Speaker 1: So you've got was it Mike Williams, Yeah, so he said,
Speaker 1: and Alisa Marie Presley. Have there been any other celebrity
Speaker 1: cases where it was reported one way and then when
Speaker 1: you look at the case, you think, this is actually
Speaker 1: very different than the way it was reported.
Speaker 4: Oh, for Bob Saggat, for example, that was a big
Speaker 4: thing that they were trying to say, you know that
Speaker 4: it was related to the COVID vaccine at first, and
Speaker 4: all this stuff that they went down that hill. And
Speaker 4: then when I heard that he had this, that he
Speaker 4: had this traumatic brain injury essentially, like I thought, okay,
Speaker 4: well that's what happened, like he had to have hit
Speaker 4: his head on something. And we discussed that, and there
Speaker 4: was lots of people online saying certain things, and I thought, like, no,
Speaker 4: you didn't you didn't look at the They were saying
Speaker 4: he had to be murdered, he had to be hit
Speaker 4: with a baseball bat or something significant, and I was
Speaker 4: just like, nah, dude, this is he bumped his head
Speaker 4: on the headboard or something. If his wife was there
Speaker 4: with him or something, or someone was with him, they
Speaker 4: would have noticed maybe that he wasn't okay and would
Speaker 4: have called and he could have went to the hospital
Speaker 4: and survived that. It just was a matter of being
Speaker 4: alone and going to sleep. And after something like that, God,
Speaker 4: how sad. Yeah, it is sad when stuff like that happened.
Speaker 1: So with all of your background in medicine and pathology,
Speaker 1: I'll say, how frustrated is it to you when things
Speaker 1: like that do happen where there's clear evidence of what
Speaker 1: went down, But then you have all the conspiracy theory
Speaker 1: people popping out of the woodwork and saying, well, obviously
Speaker 1: that was a complication of example, a COVID vaccine. Does
Speaker 1: that drive you nuts? Yeah?
Speaker 4: It does. I just try to I try to ignore
Speaker 4: it because I don't want to. I don't want to
Speaker 4: be like one of those troll type people that go
Speaker 4: on people's page and try to call them out that
Speaker 4: they're wrong or whatever. I'm just like my husband always
Speaker 4: is telling me, just worry about things that you have
Speaker 4: control over, you know, And it's something it's a constant
Speaker 4: lesson in my life to just try to ignore that
Speaker 4: kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: So, now, looking at all of these people who you
Speaker 1: deal in the dead, all these people who have died,
Speaker 1: do you ever take a look at someone who is
Speaker 1: living and say, I can see right now that there's
Speaker 1: something going on? Yeah, yeah, what are some of the
Speaker 1: biggest signs that you see or biggest red flags that
Speaker 1: you see in people who are alive?
Speaker 4: Still, just certain people, I'll look and see that if
Speaker 4: they have like a weird skin lesion. You could see
Speaker 4: if people have different kind of like swollen conditions in
Speaker 4: their legs. Like a lot of time to my followers
Speaker 4: will send me messages and say like, hey, what do
Speaker 4: you think about this? And then I'll start asking them
Speaker 4: lots of questions like I don't ever diagnose people or
Speaker 4: give people. I guess I would say I do give
Speaker 4: them medical advice as far as like you need to
Speaker 4: try to make it a doctor's appointment with this person.
Speaker 4: I don't ever say, like take this medicine or anything.
Speaker 4: I just try to guide them like where I think
Speaker 4: they need to go next, because they're not getting answers
Speaker 4: where they're currently at.
Speaker 1: So you know, that's very kind of you. It's also
Speaker 1: got to be exhausting.
Speaker 4: Well, I feel bad for people because people are going
Speaker 4: through stuff sometimes and I'll say, send me your your
Speaker 4: blood work and your CT work and I look at
Speaker 4: it and the answer is like pretty obvious to me,
Speaker 4: like where the next testing or something should be. But
Speaker 4: the way the medical system is set up, it's like
Speaker 4: you go to this doctor sometimes you need a referral
Speaker 4: for this doctor. You can't get into this doctor for
Speaker 4: six months. Like I wish there was a way to
Speaker 4: kind of cut the bullshit for people because people are
Speaker 4: suffering with stuff.
Speaker 1: I feel like I could quiz you about this stuff
Speaker 1: all day, not even quizzy. I'm just so fascinated by
Speaker 1: what it is that you're doing and all the things
Speaker 1: that you see every day. I mean, what's some of
Speaker 1: the strangest stuff that you've had to remove from either
Speaker 1: a body or a body part.
Speaker 4: So we people don't realize this either, but if you
Speaker 4: go to the emergency room, like if your kid swallows
Speaker 4: a quarter, they're gonna take the quarter out of the
Speaker 4: kid and send it to pathology. Everything that gets taken out.
Speaker 4: So if you get your implants switched out, we get
Speaker 4: the old implants. If you get a new hip replacement,
Speaker 4: we get the old hip replacement hardware taken from your back.
Speaker 4: And also we get really crazy stuff like like foreign
Speaker 4: bodies that usually men stick up their ass and like
Speaker 4: it gets stuck.
Speaker 1: Always men, right, and it's always but mostly men.
Speaker 4: It's always it's it's usually men, and it's usually men
Speaker 4: because they have a prostate land and it's like the
Speaker 4: clitterisa for a man. Right, So like they just instead
Speaker 4: of us just talking about like men like butt whole pleasures,
Speaker 4: like we can't. So they have to do these secret
Speaker 4: things like stick shampoo bottles in their ass and it
Speaker 4: gets sucked up and they have to go to the
Speaker 4: emergency room.
Speaker 1: First of all, a shampoo bottle is insane.
Speaker 4: That's yeah, a shampoo bottle is the one of the
Speaker 4: common ones.
Speaker 1: Though I've gotten yes in the shower. I guess you're
Speaker 1: like feeling kind of free. Yeah, if there's a mass,
Speaker 1: you can clean it well.
Speaker 4: Also, you're not ordering a dildo online or going to
Speaker 4: a store and buying one it's embarrassing and and and
Speaker 4: that's you see that type of stuff in like the
Speaker 4: older dudes especially because it's like they're not into the hole.
Speaker 4: You could order this on the internet and it comes
Speaker 4: in a white box and like nobody knows what it
Speaker 4: is sing but believe it or not, Like this entire time,
Speaker 4: of all these foreign bodies that I got at the hospital,
Speaker 4: I only got a dildo one time, and it had
Speaker 4: a wide base and a suction cup on it too.
Speaker 4: But it's still and it was really long, but it's
Speaker 4: just it got all the way up there like covered
Speaker 4: in poop and everything. Still they don't clean it off.
Speaker 4: It's like, but I've gotten like really like lots of
Speaker 4: vegetab obviously, like cucumbers and stuff people would use. But
Speaker 4: I got it like a half eatn pair once. What
Speaker 4: it's just like crazy shit flashlights like just people just
Speaker 4: just crazy stuff. It's the very first one I got
Speaker 4: was a traveled toothbrusholder and it was on it like
Speaker 4: and I don't know, I didn't know anything about it
Speaker 4: when I first started and I looked at it. It
Speaker 4: was like a seventy five year old guy and I
Speaker 4: was like, what, why would he put this up his
Speaker 4: butt and then I had to get the lesson of
Speaker 4: like why guys like that? So I was like, okay, cool,
Speaker 4: learn something new every day. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do most of these people make it through?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I.
Speaker 4: Mean they they and and talking to the er nurses
Speaker 4: and stuff a lot, they all come in and say
Speaker 4: they have like these crazy stories of how they like
Speaker 4: fell on it. They they never just say, hey, I
Speaker 4: was pleasure in myself and it went wrong and I
Speaker 4: couldn't get it out. It's there's always like this story
Speaker 4: with it. But yeah, they I mean I imagine it's
Speaker 4: incredibly embarrassing.
Speaker 1: Oh sure.
Speaker 4: I mean sometimes it's more difficult to and that because
Speaker 4: if it's really large and they don't feel like they
Speaker 4: could safely pull it out, they have to go in
Speaker 4: and sometimes cut the colon open and take it out,
Speaker 4: and that it's a major surgery at that point.
Speaker 1: So the PSA here would be just by the sex toy,
Speaker 1: it's probably safe, and the cucumber.
Speaker 4: The wide based sex toy would be the most would
Speaker 4: be like the safest. I would think, like, you don't
Speaker 4: think about this until if when I say this, you'll
Speaker 4: think about this, like when you have to poop. Right,
Speaker 4: Sometimes if you can't go to the bathroom, like the
Speaker 4: feeling goes away, right. Yeah, Well that that it like
Speaker 4: sucks it back up out of the canal where it's
Speaker 4: supposed to come out of. So if you put a
Speaker 4: foreign object up there, it will suck it in and
Speaker 4: you can't get it out. So you just you just
Speaker 4: have to be careful. Really, you want one that you
Speaker 4: could like install against the wall that's just like not going.
Speaker 1: Anywhere, Yes, exactly, bolted down. Yeah, have you ever seen
Speaker 1: something wild that's actually killed somebody.
Speaker 4: You've had so many cases of people swallowing things that
Speaker 4: you would think because not only do you have you
Speaker 4: obviously have the foreign bodies from the rectum, but also
Speaker 4: you have people that have mental health issues. So they're
Speaker 4: like we had this guy that he would swallow broken
Speaker 4: shards of glass, screws, and tips of knives, like he
Speaker 4: actually would cut the tips of knives aufih And we
Speaker 4: would get them like every week from the same guy.
Speaker 4: He would get the procedure done, get them removed, and
Speaker 4: I got a butter knife from someone's esophagus one time,
Speaker 4: pens from someone's esophagus. Now that you think of this,
Speaker 4: I'm thinking of a story that was on the news
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago that there was this girl
Speaker 4: who said that she had been eating Thanksgiving dinner and
Speaker 4: she choked on the turkey and she tried to get
Speaker 4: it out and ended up swallowing an entire toothbrush. And
Speaker 4: I called bullshit on that right away, because I was like, no,
Speaker 4: that's something that's seen with people that are bollimic. They
Speaker 4: use like larger objects because their fingers don't do the
Speaker 4: job anymore to make the gag reflex happen. And I've
Speaker 4: gotten lots of things like long items like butter knives
Speaker 4: and pens and things that from people that were had bolima.
Speaker 1: What about as far as as far as death goes,
Speaker 1: when you see young people who were fairly healthy for
Speaker 1: the most part, we're not talking about cancer. What is
Speaker 1: the most common cause that you encounter.
Speaker 4: Obesity one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: And and when you say obesity, I mean obviously would
Speaker 1: be complications from that, so like high cholesterol.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's usually their heart it's it's like a heart
Speaker 4: failure thing, just all of their organs covered in visceral fat,
Speaker 4: which is fat on the organs. It just made your
Speaker 4: your organs don't work as well when they're covered in
Speaker 4: this heavy coating of the fat not only insulates, but
Speaker 4: it just it restricts the heart from moving correctly. And yeah,
Speaker 4: I had a guy too that he had he was
Speaker 4: really morbidly obese and he just dropped out. He was
Speaker 4: thirty some years old. And then when I was doing
Speaker 4: the autopsy, I found all these huge lymph nodes in
Speaker 4: his armpits and here yet lymphoma, but like he wouldn't
Speaker 4: even have been able to know it because he was
Speaker 4: just so large. Like I'm not even sure. I kept
Speaker 4: feeling from the outside like if I was a physician
Speaker 4: or even him to see if I could know that
Speaker 4: that was there. And there was just so much fat
Speaker 4: in the chest that you couldn't even feel these huge
Speaker 4: lymph nodes that on an average sized person would be
Speaker 4: glaring at it at a physician's appointment. And I get
Speaker 4: allow of shit on Instagram because people say a fat
Speaker 4: shame and everything. I just don't I don't care because
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'll just tell you what I see and
Speaker 4: like it's not it's not how it's not healthy. Like
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to say your body doesn't look good.
Speaker 4: The inside of your body doesn't look good, Like I
Speaker 4: don't care what the outside of your body looks like.
Speaker 1: So so for you have you know, obviously seeing these
Speaker 1: different things, has it made you live your life differently,
Speaker 1: eat differently?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I try to be I and I get better
Speaker 4: as time goes on. Like I really I don't drink
Speaker 4: because I think alcohol is a huge issue too, especially
Speaker 4: for people in our age range.
Speaker 1: Like you say our age range, which age range are
Speaker 1: you're talking to? For the people who well, I'm forty four, okay,
Speaker 1: so I got you, like you're thirty.
Speaker 4: I'm just preserved from all the formaldehyde. That's all. But
Speaker 4: I would say like people that are like like thirty
Speaker 4: to fifty, Like it's just like this. I talk to
Speaker 4: people all the time, and I think a lot of
Speaker 4: people are actually alcoholics and don't even realize it. Just
Speaker 4: the amount of alcohol that's just constantly being consumed casually anymore,
Speaker 4: it's poison in your body. So it's I'm just kind
Speaker 4: of not into it. And it also I'm not into
Speaker 4: it for other reasons, like I want to function the
Speaker 4: next day, like I have a schedule. I don't I
Speaker 4: like to sleep well, things like that. But yeah, as
Speaker 4: far as eating goes too, like, I really am trying,
Speaker 4: especially now since I have little ones too, Like I
Speaker 4: try to cook for the most part, I cook us
Speaker 4: like scratch dinners because I am I'm scared of the
Speaker 4: increased risk of colon cancer and younger people now is
Speaker 4: it's like it has to be directly correlated to our food.
Speaker 4: So you are what you eat kind of thing, you know.
Speaker 4: So I'm just trying to stay on top of that.
Speaker 4: Then the same with my weight, Like I'm like a
Speaker 4: normal person. I've gone through three pregnancies, I've been up
Speaker 4: to two hundred and some pounds. It's a struggle for
Speaker 4: me every day. I want to eat ice cream all day,
Speaker 4: like and cupcakes and everything else, right, but I know
Speaker 4: what it does. So I have this rule that like
Speaker 4: I'm good at this size. I'm like wear size ten
Speaker 4: or size twelve. I'm like an average weight and everything
Speaker 4: higher end of average. And as soon as my pants
Speaker 4: start getting tight, I reel it in. I won't go.
Speaker 4: That's like the biggest word of advice I have is like,
Speaker 4: don't go buy a bigger pair of pants, because when
Speaker 4: you could reel it in and lose five pounds. You
Speaker 4: could do that easily yourself if you just restrict for
Speaker 4: like two weeks, and if you let it go, then
Speaker 4: now you have like an extra ten or fifteen pounds
Speaker 4: you could put on in that new size, and then
Speaker 4: that's way harder to lose. It's just reel it in.
Speaker 1: What about smoking?
Speaker 4: Smoking is just off limits completely, Like I will tell
Speaker 4: everybody that it's just the most horrible thing you could do,
Speaker 4: because it doesn't just cause lung cancer, causes like seven
Speaker 4: other kinds of cancers too, and cardiovascular diseased everything. It's
Speaker 4: just horrible for you.
Speaker 1: And are you talking cigarettes or weed or both? Because
Speaker 1: I know so many people who smoke weed. I smoke
Speaker 1: a little weed myself, who will try and convince you
Speaker 1: it's not as bad.
Speaker 4: The biggest thing is it's like when you burn anything,
Speaker 4: it changes the composition of that. So let's talk about
Speaker 4: nine to eleven for example, Like if you walk by
Speaker 4: those buildings all the time and stuff, nobody's getting cancer
Speaker 4: from just breathing in around the buildings. But when you
Speaker 4: set them on fire along with whatever was added to it,
Speaker 4: jet fuel, whatever, all of a sudden, that's a carcinogen.
Speaker 4: And that's why all those firefighters and first responders got
Speaker 4: cancer from being on that site around that stuff all
Speaker 4: the time. And I've had I used to be that
Speaker 4: weed person because I love smoking weed. I haven't done
Speaker 4: it in three or four years now, like at all,
Speaker 4: because I just am starting to see how that was.
Speaker 4: Like this whole no one's ever died from weed, nothing's
Speaker 4: and and now you're starting to learn that that is
Speaker 4: not the truth. And there's I feel like it was
Speaker 4: inducing anxiety on me. There's lots of studies showing that
Speaker 4: it could cause psychosis as you get older and all
Speaker 4: this stuff, and that was why I got off of it.
Speaker 4: And another thing I have to say about that too,
Speaker 4: is when they say that people are getting cancer and
Speaker 4: stuff from cigarettes. Weed has only been like okay to
Speaker 4: say out loud to your doctor in the past couple
Speaker 4: of years. If they said to you, even when we
Speaker 4: were in our twenties, like do you do you do
Speaker 4: at recreational drugs, you would probably say no to your
Speaker 4: doctor because you're scared you're gonna get in trouble or
Speaker 4: something or.
Speaker 1: They're gonna judge you. Yeah, I don't want to feel that.
Speaker 4: So how do we really know if people were smoking
Speaker 4: weed this whole time, if they were getting lung cancer
Speaker 4: from it or or not. Like you just don't you
Speaker 4: don't really know. I think that now that it's legal
Speaker 4: most places and now we could kind of monitor it
Speaker 4: a little bit more and people are more open to
Speaker 4: saying that they use it. We'll see what happens in
Speaker 4: ten years from now.
Speaker 1: You were mentioning that when somebody takes something out of
Speaker 1: a body, whether it's a breast implant or a bullet,
Speaker 1: it comes to you, guys, and you take a look
Speaker 1: at it. Are you seeing an increase in breast cancer?
Speaker 1: What are they calling an implant.
Speaker 4: Disease breast implant illness? You're saying yes, So it does
Speaker 4: seem like it's a real thing that every person doesn't experience.
Speaker 4: And a lot of these things that come up, like
Speaker 4: fatigue and stuff. It's women will get breast in plants
Speaker 4: when they're twenty and then when they're thirty five they
Speaker 4: start saying they feel fatigue it's from their implants and
Speaker 4: this and that. You're like, well that happens when you're
Speaker 4: thirty five. Sure, So there's like this back and forth
Speaker 4: thing with it. But there are people that get them
Speaker 4: taken out and don't get them replaced. And when I
Speaker 4: first started working in pathology, I would get a lot
Speaker 4: of these, like the old school ones that used to
Speaker 4: cause problems that ruptured. They were crazy because they were
Speaker 4: made with like silicone almost like glue stuff that you
Speaker 4: would get like home depot inside the bag. So when
Speaker 4: they ruptured and we would just take them out to
Speaker 4: examine them, it was so sticky it would stick to
Speaker 4: our floor. We didn't have any chemicals to even clean
Speaker 4: it up, because think about getting glue all over the place, Like,
Speaker 4: how do you clean that up if you don't have
Speaker 4: special solvents to get it up.
Speaker 1: And that's just inside your body.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was leaking inside these women's bodies. So
Speaker 4: now now they're solidified silicones, so even if they rupture,
Speaker 4: they kind of stay in one place and they don't
Speaker 4: cause as many problems. But yeah, I mean people again,
Speaker 4: people don't realize that women have problems with these things
Speaker 4: all the time.
Speaker 1: With the rise of cosmetic surgery, things like BBLS, butt shot,
Speaker 1: silicone injects or you know, filler injections, all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff are using an increase in people dying and
Speaker 1: getting sick because of that.
Speaker 4: I haven't personally seen that, but we just did. We
Speaker 4: did another celebrity death disseection a couple a couple of
Speaker 4: weeks ago on a celebrity who died as a result
Speaker 4: of getting a BBL. There there was a lot of
Speaker 4: medical medical examiners and surgeons got together because there was
Speaker 4: such an increase in these deaths. It's the highest cause
Speaker 4: of death in plastic surgery.
Speaker 1: The BBL. Yeah, yeah, and wait, can you just for
Speaker 1: a second, will you explain what the BBL is.
Speaker 4: So a BBL is a Brazilian butt lift and it
Speaker 4: became popular with like Kardashian people and stuff. And what
Speaker 4: they do is they take fat from one area of
Speaker 4: your body and transfer it to another area of your body.
Speaker 4: And they're supposed to do it on a certain plane
Speaker 4: over your gluteous maximus muscle. So it because if you
Speaker 4: go within the muscle, there's a risk that you could
Speaker 4: hit the gluteal artery and then the fat then could
Speaker 4: get into your body and cause an embolism. It could
Speaker 4: travel around and get stuck in your lung, just like
Speaker 4: a blood clock could.
Speaker 1: And with the surgery there's a higher propensity for that
Speaker 1: to happen if the.
Speaker 4: Surgeon's not good. Okay, The thing is is that they
Speaker 4: have these clinics that they set up and they do
Speaker 4: way more procedures a day than they showed in doctors
Speaker 4: are rushing, they might not have the best training, and
Speaker 4: that seemed to be what happened in her kind of
Speaker 4: case too. And but it's a bunch of surgeons and
Speaker 4: medical examiners got together and like dissected these people that
Speaker 4: died from this to find out like exactly what happened.
Speaker 4: And they would cut through the gluteus maximus muscle and
Speaker 4: see like fat embedded in there, which means that they
Speaker 4: were sticking the tool like way too deep, which would
Speaker 4: probably give you like a more desired effect. So that's
Speaker 4: like another that would probably look better as far as
Speaker 4: a surgery standpoint, but it's way more dangerous and any
Speaker 4: like respectable surgeon probably would touch that because it's so risky.
Speaker 1: You know, you go by, I will let you say it.
Speaker 4: And it's Latin, oh yeah, more to ivivo stocent, which
Speaker 4: means the dead teach the living.
Speaker 1: Because how would we learn about anything, how would we
Speaker 1: know what to stay away from if we didn't see
Speaker 1: all of these so as much as it creeps people
Speaker 1: out and it breaks people out, it's so important. And
Speaker 1: I'm really glad that people like you were doing it
Speaker 1: because I know I couldn't. I know, we talked about
Speaker 1: what the most common cause of death in young people
Speaker 1: would be. What is the most common cause of death
Speaker 1: just in general?
Speaker 4: I don't really know. I don't really want to say,
Speaker 4: because I don't know. Statistics wise, I would say, do
Speaker 4: you see the most It's difficult because if someone has
Speaker 4: cancer and has stage four cancer and they go home
Speaker 4: and they're dying and they're on hospice, there's a high
Speaker 4: probability that we would never autopsy them because we don't
Speaker 4: do autopsies on everyone that dies, because it just would
Speaker 4: be impossible because so many people die every day. I
Speaker 4: know everybody thinks that people just started dying during COVID,
Speaker 4: but like they've been dying all They've been dying, yes,
Speaker 4: for a long time, every day. So usually, especially hospital
Speaker 4: autopsies are driven by the family, like they want to
Speaker 4: know what happened to their loved one. And if you
Speaker 4: know that your loved one has the stage four pancreas
Speaker 4: cancer and that's when they're dying, like why why give
Speaker 4: them an autopsy? So even though we do see cancer,
Speaker 4: sometimes at autopsy it's it's not really a good representation
Speaker 4: of like how many people are actually dying from cancer.
Speaker 4: And then other times we get just interesting cases of
Speaker 4: people that might have been sick in the hospital for
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks and they really didn't know what
Speaker 4: was going on with them, and then we did the
Speaker 4: autopsy and figured it out. A lot of times, if
Speaker 4: a person's really sick, they can't do really invasive biopsies
Speaker 4: and stuff to figure out what's going on because they're
Speaker 4: just too stick to get in a seizure or something.
Speaker 1: I was in the hospital for a couple weeks over
Speaker 1: the summer. Oh and yeah, so it was an issue
Speaker 1: with my kidney that to this day we're not one
Speaker 1: hundred percent shore exactly how it happened or why it happened.
Speaker 1: When Andrew came to give me this book, we opened
Speaker 1: it just to a random page and it was on
Speaker 1: the kidney page. Oh wow, and both of us just
Speaker 1: kind of stopped for a second, like, I don't know
Speaker 1: if this means anything or what this means, but that's crazy.
Speaker 1: And that's when I started flipping through and seeing all
Speaker 1: these other things and then telling myself I have all
Speaker 1: of these issues, which hopefully I don't. But the book
Speaker 1: is fascinating. It's Nicole and Jemmy's Anatomy Book, a catalog
Speaker 1: of familiar, rare, and unusual pathologies. How long did this
Speaker 1: take you?
Speaker 4: It took It took a couple of years. Honestly, I'm thick.
Speaker 4: It wasn't the writing that took the long time. It
Speaker 4: was the getting everything I wanted and communicating with people,
Speaker 4: interviewing because there's over one hundred cases in the book,
Speaker 4: and I interviewed every single person, had to get them
Speaker 4: to fill out like photo release forms, and so I
Speaker 4: did a through z all of your body parts. And
Speaker 4: then I had to find cases for all of those
Speaker 4: body parts, and some of them were more obscure and
Speaker 4: not as easy to find.
Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite couple cases in here?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I do. This girl was in a car accident,
Speaker 4: which anybody woman was in a car accident, anybody could
Speaker 4: understand that. But her arm got pinned in the car
Speaker 4: and they said basically like we can't move this car.
Speaker 4: We have to cut your arm off right here, oh
Speaker 4: right there, yes, like like on the scene and I thought,
Speaker 4: oh my god, like people need to read this because
Speaker 4: this is this is insane. Think about you being wide awaken,
Speaker 4: them telling you like we're going to have to end
Speaker 4: a surgeon there to cut your arm off right now.
Speaker 4: I just can't even imagine what you would mentally go through.
Speaker 4: She learned how to tie her shoes with one arm,
Speaker 4: like just amazing stories of She sent me a video
Speaker 4: of for self tying a shoe and she just has
Speaker 4: this attitude like now I'm gonna figure that out. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna do that, and I love that. That's the kind
Speaker 4: of stuff I wanted to share.
Speaker 1: It's this book is fascinating. I thank you. It's one
Speaker 1: of those I want to leave on my coffee table
Speaker 1: just so people pick it up and start flipping through,
Speaker 1: like what the fuck is that? Oh my god, But
Speaker 1: I know our time is up. I could probably talk
Speaker 1: to you for a thousand hours, but instead I will
Speaker 1: tell everybody else to follow you at missus n Jemmy
Speaker 1: on Instagram. You can google the Gross Room to find
Speaker 1: her website, and she also has a podcast called Mother
Speaker 1: Knows Death. I have a feeling I'm gonna be seeing
Speaker 1: you and hearing from you a whole lot more. Thank you, Andrew,
Speaker 1: Were you happy with that?
Speaker 3: Everything?
Speaker 2: I wanted more?
Speaker 1: Your brain actually fascinates me because you seem so happy
Speaker 1: and like life is so amazing, everything's wonderful. And then
Speaker 1: you have all these little, dark, twisted sides of you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that you hide so well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 1: Signs of a serial killer. I want to say that
Speaker 1: you're on a podcast serial killers.
Speaker 3: Oh, cereal with the sea, right, cereal with the sea.
Speaker 1: But we know what I was talking about. Anyway, Time
Speaker 1: for the Burned Book.
Speaker 3: I've been loving this segment so much.
Speaker 1: The two people that we burned were somehow ourselves and Kevin.
Speaker 2: G the clownery.
Speaker 1: The Clownery. Indeed, the burn Book in itself is just trash,
Speaker 1: but I love it. Like what small minor inconvenience is
Speaker 1: pissing you off today? Let me tell you know who
Speaker 1: I want to put on my burn Book.
Speaker 4: I know you know this.
Speaker 1: I was gonna have a guest on the show. She
Speaker 1: goes by Elizabeth Ovison now formerly known as Kurr and Stephens.
Speaker 1: If you were around in the early two thousands and
Speaker 1: read trashy books like I did, she had a series
Speaker 1: called Confessions of a video vixen.
Speaker 3: My sister was obsessed with that book series.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fascinating, Andrew. I can't tell you how many times
Speaker 1: I will like drop a reference from these books because
Speaker 1: they're so crazy, and she never got sued for any
Speaker 1: of it, So you think, okay, this stuff is true.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: I was so obsessed with those books back when they
Speaker 1: came out. I think I read all three of them
Speaker 1: in like one bath. It's an easy read, fascinating one bath.
Speaker 1: So when I saw that she was online and now
Speaker 1: she's under a different name, what are you laughing?
Speaker 2: I've never heard of a bath as a measurement of time.
Speaker 1: Now you have one bath all three bam, bam bam,
Speaker 1: just knock them out. So it might have gotten cold.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I was in there. That's how.
Speaker 1: That's specifically how I remember reading those books. So I
Speaker 1: saw she's kind of done this like reinvention of herself,
Speaker 1: and she's got this sort of blog and like women's
Speaker 1: help self help thing going on. Then I thought, okay,
Speaker 1: this is interesting. I love to see a good plot twist,
Speaker 1: a turn in life, people evolving going from one thing
Speaker 1: to another. So I reached out to her to say, hey,
Speaker 1: you want to be on this podcast. She was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely to do it. You saw these emails back and forth.
Speaker 1: We decided we were going to lock down a day.
Speaker 1: She changed the data a couple times. She actually wanted
Speaker 1: to fly in from LA to sit in here and
Speaker 1: do the podcast, which I love that. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to stop anyone. She said she had some other business here.
Speaker 1: All good. Change the data a couple times, no problem,
Speaker 1: I live here. We can do it whenever you want. Now,
Speaker 1: when we do these things, we ask people to send
Speaker 1: us a one sheet. And a one sheet is.
Speaker 3: It's basically just a bio picture.
Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit about your current projects, right.
Speaker 1: She sent us novels of things. There were like seventeen
Speaker 1: different projects. The bio was pages and pages long. There
Speaker 1: was a lot going on. So I asked her a
Speaker 1: few days before, hey, you think you could just send
Speaker 1: us a one sheet of what's going on? And she
Speaker 1: didn't do it. Not a big deal. Now we're getting
Speaker 1: ready for the morning of she's been in town. We
Speaker 1: see her posting on Instagram that she's in New York,
Speaker 1: and I say to her, because there was some stuff
Speaker 1: going on behind the scenes here, Hey, how long are
Speaker 1: you in town because that specific day we were missing
Speaker 1: like three people from the show. Things were a little chaotic.
Speaker 1: I said, hey, if you're in town and you can
Speaker 1: do this tomorrow, let's do it tomorrow. Things got a
Speaker 1: little bit careaotic behind the scenes here. But if you can't,
Speaker 1: no problem. Still happy to make it work. I'm excited
Speaker 1: to see you, she says, awesome, I'll see you in
Speaker 1: a few minutes. Fast forward, getting ready to do this interview,
Speaker 1: I opened my email a gasp. I got basically told
Speaker 1: off by this woman, and the reasoning was bizarre. Hold on,
Speaker 1: let me pull up the email. Andrew, do you want
Speaker 1: to do the dramatic recreation or should I scream?
Speaker 2: You scrumped this scream.
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, why this is insane.
Speaker 2: I just remember when you got the message, you were like.
Speaker 1: What it was crazy? Okay, you do it. You're way
Speaker 1: better at dramatic readings.
Speaker 2: I like that your arms are so short that you
Speaker 2: can't Andrew.
Speaker 1: Okay, So now keep in mind, last email from her
Speaker 1: was great, see you in a few minutes and roll.
Speaker 2: Hi, Mada.
Speaker 3: To be frank, I'm unnerved by the quote unquote chaotic
Speaker 3: circumstances You've described and Frank, I wish you had never
Speaker 3: exposed me to that energy. It's unusual at best to
Speaker 3: rattle a guest before in appearance. I'm also not quite
Speaker 3: sure if you even know who I am or which
Speaker 3: topics you'd.
Speaker 4: Like to cover.
Speaker 1: Mam, I do, and I do.
Speaker 3: I sent you everything you needed to know weeks ago,
Speaker 3: but still don't feel as if you're prepared or organize.
Speaker 2: Although I came here.
Speaker 3: Specifically for this interview, I'm now thinking it was a
Speaker 3: mistake based on your last minute communications, and I've decided
Speaker 3: to forego the interview.
Speaker 1: I got told off by the way. Her nickname was Superhead.
Speaker 1: I got told off by Superhead in an email for
Speaker 1: being unprepared and chaotic. She said I never should have
Speaker 1: brought her that energy. I okay, fine, maybe not. I've
Speaker 1: learned for the future, but let me just say I
Speaker 1: know the energy she's been around. We all read these books.
Speaker 1: That was not the thing that should have knocked her
Speaker 1: off her game. But here we are, and that is
Speaker 1: why I am flaming. Elizabeth Ovison Akakren Stephan's aka Superhead.
Speaker 1: Welcome to your burn glued and done done, and now
Speaker 1: we get to the ask me anything you want to
Speaker 1: go through on.
Speaker 3: Let me see what I have for you, all right,
Speaker 3: so for your ask me anything? Okay, so many great questions.
Speaker 3: This one comes from h war gag I eleven.
Speaker 1: That sounds like not a bot, totally not.
Speaker 2: How many tattoos do you have?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: How many do you think I have? Andrew? I'll just
Speaker 1: ask you this four Ooh, you're one short. I have
Speaker 1: three at the moment, I want to get two more.
Speaker 1: I have the places picked out, and all of my
Speaker 1: tattoos are in places where nobody would see them unless
Speaker 1: I wanted them to. So I have one on my hip,
Speaker 1: I have one on my left butt cheek, and I
Speaker 1: have one that's pretty big that goes across my heart.
Speaker 1: And I love all of them except the one on
Speaker 1: my hip, which is absolutely jail house trash.
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 1: It was a bad idea, but it was a good
Speaker 1: idea at the moment. So you know, I have a
Speaker 1: boyfriend who passed away while we were dating, and I
Speaker 1: thought it would be a wonderful idea to get his
Speaker 1: nickname tattooed on me when I was in a state
Speaker 1: of morning and really not thinking clearly, so I went
Speaker 1: to this little shitty place in Fort Lauderdale Beach and
Speaker 1: the guy was like, yeah, no problem, like smoking a cigarette, Yeah,
Speaker 1: no problem, And he just like hand wrote it in cursive.
Speaker 1: It is the ugliest, shittiest tattoo ever. It's his nickname,
Speaker 1: so his Hadji from I forget what the cartoon was
Speaker 1: because I never watched it. Uh, Johnny Quest, Does that
Speaker 1: sound right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Haiji from Johnny Quest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was Hodgi from Johnny Quest. So it says
Speaker 1: my Hodgie. And it's just written terribly. I think it's like,
Speaker 1: you know how they kind of bleed after a while.
Speaker 1: It's green, it's not even black anymore. It's so bad.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get it fixed. Our buddies at ink
Speaker 1: said whatever you want, like, come in, we'll take care
Speaker 1: of it. We do this stuff all the time. You
Speaker 1: could even laser it off. I don't want to laser
Speaker 1: it off. I want it to be there. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to evolve. Got it from the piece of shit
Speaker 1: Jill House tattoo that it is the other one is
Speaker 1: an um sign, and then the one across my heart
Speaker 1: says this too shall pass. But it looks like a
Speaker 1: radio wave and a heartbeat together, and it's got a
Speaker 1: little bit of drippy blood on it. Oh yeah, and
Speaker 1: nobody will ever see it unless I want them to.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: Thanks and that's our ask me anything.
Speaker 2: That was so fun And.
Speaker 1: That wraps up the podcast. So episode three Andrew.
Speaker 2: In the Books done. I'm so god he hates someone.
Speaker 2: I say that.
Speaker 1: You want to say Hi, Scott bye? Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Nope? Bye?
Speaker 1: Okay, And on that note, we're out of here.
Speaker 3: Follow you on at Baby Hot Sauce. Yes, make sure
Speaker 3: you like, subscribe, make sure you review this podcast, share
Speaker 3: it with your friends. The response has been so amazing.
Speaker 3: You've gone so many downloads. The first couple of episodes
Speaker 3: been awesome.
Speaker 2: It going.
Speaker 1: Everyone is awesome. Yes, we'll see you next time.
Speaker 3: Bye bye