1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: What's up. It's episode three. Andrew saw us on the side. 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 2: Oh. 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: I like the way you said that you're so long 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: gone go it again. You also had your own big announcement. 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: Oh we mentioned it last episode, but I think you 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: should hit it again because this is a big deal. 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: By the way, this is my producer, Andrew producer for 8 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: the moment. Hot Oh wow, you have you have bigger 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: things to do. 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 3: But you know what, I am loving being here with you. 11 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 3: And yes, gandhi to piggyback off. That are my podcast, 12 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: Serial Killers is so many for best Food Podcast at 13 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty four iHeartRadio Podcast Awards. 14 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: And you'll find out when Oh my god, really. 15 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're nominated next to like these huge food podcasts. 16 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 3: And then there's like me and Scotty's jankity like serial 17 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 3: podcast we've been doing for like four years. 18 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: I love your podcast, thank kidding. It's awesome and you 19 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: guys make me laugh, as evidenced in the last episode, 20 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: a little bit unhinged, but I'm here for it. 21 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 3: Some of them are with like famous chefs and like 22 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 3: by like award winning journalists, and then you got me 23 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 3: and Scotty. 24 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: Which I think is actually I think that could be 25 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: great though, because you guys are kind of like the offshoot, 26 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: the alternative. Yeah to the mainstream like Eva Longoria. Man, 27 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: of course, sounds like a shoe in right, But maybe 28 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: it's time for the indie stuff to take over. 29 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Like, we're really the lowest 30 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 3: man on the totem pole in terms of the podcasts nominated, 31 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 3: so Underdog Story it's a great place to be our 32 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: slum dog millionaire. 33 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: Yay. 34 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: I'm so excited for you guys, and I hope it 35 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: works out. 36 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 4: I can't wait. 37 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: Fingers crossed. All right, So today I am super excited, 38 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: and I know you're super excited. Why don't you give 39 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: a little background real quick because we're gonna let her 40 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: introduce herself and do all of that. But how did 41 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: you find our next guest? 42 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 3: I have been in love with Nicoley and jemmy Instagram 43 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 3: page four years. I've just been fascinated by it. She's 44 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 3: posted the craziest things. And so you started this podcast 45 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: and I said to myself self, what better blend of 46 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: weirdness could I put together? 47 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: Oh? 48 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 3: And I am just so excited. She said, yes, she 49 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: was super down for it, so I can't wait to 50 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: have her on to talk all things dead bodies. 51 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: Let's just bring her in. Yeah, you know what I 52 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: was going to introduce you, But why don't you introduce 53 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: what you do so I don't get it wrong? 54 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 4: Okay? Hi, I am a pathologists assistant, So I have 55 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 4: spent my training in my career doing autopsies and dissecting 56 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 4: organs from surgeries. 57 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: Which is incredible. Now you, through doing this, have as 58 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: a massive following on Instagram. Yes, you have your own 59 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: podcast right, And you have a book that I got 60 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: the other day. It's called Nicole and Jemmy's Anatomy Book, 61 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: The Catalog of Familiar, Rare and Unusual Pathologies. It has 62 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: a warning sticker on the front because of graphic content, 63 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: and when you open it, I mean, I've just I've 64 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: flagged pages here because I look at some of these 65 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: things and I'm like, I might have that. I know 66 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: I'm not dead yet, but when I read all of 67 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: these things, I might just have diagnosed myself with it. 68 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: How did you get to where you are right now? 69 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 4: So I had my daughter who's here with us today, 70 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 4: when I was in ninth grade and I had to 71 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 4: go to college and get a job because I needed 72 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 4: health insurance for her. So I was really bad in 73 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 4: school and I but I thought, I have to go 74 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 4: to college and just become a nurse so I could 75 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 4: get insurance. It's like the quickest amount of time to 76 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 4: go to school and get a job. And I started 77 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 4: college for nursing school, and as soon as I took biology, 78 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 4: I started using the microscope for the first time in 79 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 4: my life. Cause you have to remember I had my 80 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 4: daughter in high school and then I dropped out, so 81 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 4: I never took like normal classes. And then I fell 82 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 4: in love with the microscope on the very first day, 83 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 4: and I asked my teacher, Hey, is there a job 84 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 4: I could get like looking under the microscope all day? 85 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 4: And it kind of went from there, and I figured 86 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 4: out this job called cytotechnology, which is looking at sales 87 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 4: under the microscope and like getting pap smears. I'm sure 88 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 4: you've had them everywhere woman has helpfully, so yeah, I 89 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 4: was like the person looking at them to for cancer 90 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 4: and stuff. And I always tell this story of one 91 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 4: day I was working and there was a commotion in 92 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 4: the hallway and there was really this really horrible smell, 93 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 4: something I've never smelled before. It wasn't poop, it wasn't 94 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 4: p It just was like a funky smell. And when 95 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 4: I went to see what the commotion was, all the 96 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 4: people were standing in the hallway saying that the leg 97 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 4: refrigerator broke and it was leaking. And I was like, 98 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 4: I was like, wait, what's a leg refrigerator? What are 99 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 4: you talking about? And I go over there and there's 100 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 4: this refrigerator that looks like something you would see in 101 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 4: a pizza shop that has all the sodas lined up, 102 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 4: but instead there was like these amputated legs wrapped up 103 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 4: in biohazard bags but like the shape of a leg, 104 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 4: just laying in like five of them inside of this refrigerator. 105 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 4: I was like, what, what's happening over here? Right now? 106 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 4: This is this is like mind blowing to me. And 107 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 4: then I saw people at cutting boards with giant ovaries 108 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 4: and appendixes and gallbladders and stuff. And then right at 109 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 4: that moment, I was like, I want to work over here. 110 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 4: And then I went back to school got my education 111 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 4: that I needed to, and that's how I got into it. 112 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: Okay, so I have two questions about that. One, what 113 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: is there a refrigerator full of legs for. 114 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 4: So normally when you send something down to surgical pathology, 115 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 4: it'll come in a jar in formaldehyde, which keeps it 116 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 4: preserved so it doesn't rock. Because when you cut off 117 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 4: body parts, they rot, just like meat would rot if 118 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 4: you didn't have it, which is fine, but obviously a 119 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 4: leg you can't stick in a jar. It's too big. 120 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 4: So anything we also stuck other things like if people 121 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 4: got really big tummy tucks or something like big pieces 122 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 4: of skin or anything that we couldn't fit in a 123 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 4: jar would go in the fridge. 124 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: Okay, that was the first question. I have so many 125 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: as this starts to go, we're gonna have a million. 126 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: What was the smell? 127 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 4: It was like decomposition of these was a fridge bad? 128 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: What was going on? 129 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 4: The fridge was broken, and it was the legs had 130 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 4: been overnight just based sitting in room temperature. And these 131 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 4: legs are cut off most of the time anyway because 132 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 4: the person has gangerine, so they already smell as it is, 133 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 4: and then just yeah, just like not being refrigerated just 134 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 4: further enhances the decomposition process. So that's what it was. 135 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 4: It was the smell of decomposition. 136 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: So you smelled that you saw that, and you were like, 137 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: you know what this is for me? 138 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, And the. 139 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 4: Doctor that was running the pathology department was trying to 140 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 4: talk me out of it. He's like, you come to 141 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 4: work every day and you wear a clean coat and 142 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 4: you sit at a cubicle and look at slides. You're 143 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 4: going to have to touch poop blood. You're going to 144 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 4: be dirty. And I was like, yeah, this is this, 145 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 4: this is it? 146 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: Is there anything at this point that can gross you out? 147 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 4: Not really, like if I would get this is kind 148 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 4: of crazy to think this. Getting an ampultated leg doesn't 149 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 4: bother me at all. But sometimes they come with like 150 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 4: maggots on them and stuff. Oh, and thinking about the 151 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 4: fact that that was just attached to a person that 152 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 4: was alive, really bob, And it makes me have this 153 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 4: like skin crawley sensation that I have to go home 154 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 4: and take a shower. But other than that, like, no, 155 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 4: I not really. 156 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: Does that mean the maggots were on the human one 157 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: the human was alive. 158 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 4: Yes, If you have a wound like a diabetic ulcer 159 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 4: or something on your foot and flies can land on 160 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 4: there and lay eggs, and maggots could hatch and sometimes 161 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 4: you lose the feeling in your leg. And people that 162 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 4: are older and it's the summer whatever, they don't have 163 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 4: a caretaker. So yeah, I would get that leg. Like 164 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 4: in surgical pathology, the person's still alive, they just had 165 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 4: surgery to remove the leg, and it would have maggots 166 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,679 Speaker 4: on it still, Oh my god, and it's just yeah. 167 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 4: I mean, I actually feel worse for nurses that have 168 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 4: to take care of patients that have things like that 169 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 4: and wrap their wound with a smile. Like at least 170 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 4: in pathology you could be like, ugh, this is nasty. 171 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: And you know, wait before we go any further here, 172 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: drop your Instagram name so that people if they're listening 173 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: to this and they also want to go check out 174 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: your instagram and see some of the stuff that we're 175 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: talking about. 176 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 4: Okay, it's my name, basically, it's missus and then underscore 177 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 4: and G E M I. 178 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: And there's some stuff on there. I was creeping through 179 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: and thought, oh my goodness, you just do this every day, 180 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: never any nightmares, never any issues with it. 181 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 4: Nah. 182 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: Does that scare your kids? 183 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? 184 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 4: I mean the thing is is that my kids always 185 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 4: because I don't let them have phones yet because they're 186 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 4: nine and ten. But they always want to go on 187 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 4: my phone, so they'll grab my phone and I have 188 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 4: like eighty thousand photos on my phone, so they always 189 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 4: come across something and they're like, what is that? But 190 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,559 Speaker 4: it's normal. Every one of my family knows that that's 191 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 4: my life. 192 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: So through all of this, I mean, you have to 193 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: have learned so much about human anatomy, about crime. I'm 194 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: sure in some ways do you guys ever dive into 195 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: that and help figure out what happened to this person? 196 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, So part of our training for school was to 197 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 4: do forensics, so we all spent time at the medical 198 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 4: Examiner's office. I was there for one summer doing autopsies 199 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 4: from homicides and suicides and accidents. Also in surgical pathology, 200 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 4: people don't realize this a lot of times, so we 201 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 4: do get friendsic specimens because people get shot all the time, 202 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 4: but they survive. So they'll you know, cut out a 203 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 4: piece of the small intestine and send it down to 204 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 4: the lab and we have to look at the gunshot wound. 205 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 4: Sometimes there's been a rare occasion where there was a 206 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 4: projectile still inside of the bell or something that we 207 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 4: have to then hand over to police and so it's 208 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 4: it's cool. And also people get in accidents all the time. 209 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 4: I was in Philadelphia, so one time we had a 210 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 4: person that was run over by except the had an amputation, 211 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 4: and so we would get like traumatic amputations too. 212 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: So when you're doing all of this and you say, okay, 213 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: let's recover maybe a bullet or something from this piece 214 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: of whatever part of the body it was, do you 215 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: guys ever help to actually solve the crime like they 216 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: do on TV, like, oh, the medical examiner said, blah 217 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: blah blah, so this is what must have happened or 218 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: is that all just really hyped. 219 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 4: Up for teams? No, it doesn't, it doesn't really work 220 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 4: like that. Like we will put our findings of where 221 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 4: we found an entrance wound or something like that, and 222 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 4: then that would be like something they need to decide. 223 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 4: Usually that's done by like a completely different crime lab 224 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 4: or something like that, and investigators on that end. I 225 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 4: would not particularly, I just say what I see and 226 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 4: that's it, and they take that information and do what 227 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 4: they want with it. 228 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: So when you're watching I don't know, do you watch 229 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: her crime? Do you watch you know any of these? 230 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 4: Like well, my mom used to my mom and Dad 231 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 4: used to watch CSI all the time, and I would 232 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 4: just get up and walk. I'm just like, this is 233 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 4: such bullshit, Like they would just do these things that 234 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 4: would take normally months for people in an episode, and 235 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 4: it just would annoy me. 236 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: You know, when you hear celebrity stories about certain people 237 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: who have passed away, do you have immediate guesses? I mean, 238 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: there have been some crime scene photos that have come 239 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: out which are very disturbing. But do you look at 240 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: these things and think, oh, I know what went down 241 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: over here? 242 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 4: So I do every I have a website called the 243 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 4: Grossroom dot com okay, and every week I do a 244 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 4: celebrity death dissection. I say, and I go over a 245 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 4: celebrity death and I go into detail, like what they 246 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 4: found at the scene, like what the autopsy might look 247 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 4: like like some of the finding because I get the 248 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 4: autopsy reports most of them are public, and I just 249 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 4: look and say, like, this is what their autopsy would 250 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 4: have looked like, this is the things that we would 251 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 4: have seen with this person. Every single time you'll hear someone, oh, 252 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 4: they died a cardiac arrest, and then I'm like, yeah, 253 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 4: no shit, their heart stopped. Oh wow, that's how they died. 254 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 4: That's how everybody dies, Like, you don't die from what 255 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 4: caused them to go into cardiac ress. Like I always 256 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 4: want to know those questions. So yeah, I'm like always 257 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 4: on it because it's very fascinating to me. 258 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: So what are some of the more fascinating celebrity deaths? 259 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: Because I think that there are a lot of people 260 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: who don't understand until maybe just now exactly what you said. 261 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: Cardiac arrest is kind of a cop out as far 262 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: as your cause of death, because yeah, everybody's heart's going 263 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: to stop, that's what kills you and your brain activity stopping, right, Yeah, 264 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: So which celebrities have you been blown away by some 265 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: of the stuff that Well? 266 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 4: I just did a really interesting one last week on 267 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 4: Mike Williams. He was an NFL player who died at 268 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 4: thirty six years old, and that was kind of shocking 269 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 4: because anytime anybody dies that you're young, you're like, what happened? 270 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 4: Oh my god, they're younger than me. And here he 271 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 4: had brain abscesses in his head and that is an 272 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 4: infection like a collection of pus, and so whenever you 273 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 4: see that at autopsy, you're gonna say, what caused this? 274 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 4: Infection because normal, healthy young people especially do not just 275 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 4: get infections like that in their brain. And then when 276 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 4: they backtracked, they found that it stemmed from a tooth 277 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 4: infection and really so he had like poor dental care. 278 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 4: Wasn't just going getting cleanings and getting cavities filled, and 279 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 4: ultimately that infection led to his brain infection and killed him. 280 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 4: So I thought that that was it's interesting to cover 281 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 4: that because a lot of people don't realize how important 282 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 4: your teeth are and how they could kill you if 283 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 4: you don't take care of them. So that was just 284 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 4: one example of like one of the more interesting ones 285 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 4: that I've covered. 286 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: I mean, that just blew my mind. I had no 287 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: idea that was even possible. I was thinking, oh, some 288 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: type of CTE. 289 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's it's cool to like because people the 290 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 4: cases are more known and then you could really sit 291 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 4: there and break it down and say what happened. It 292 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 4: was like with Lisa Marie Presley, for instance, she had 293 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 4: this small ball obstruction, and then you say, well, what 294 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 4: would have caused small ball obstruction? And then you know 295 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 4: that you when you have surgeries, you get scarring and 296 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 4: adhesions just like you would get on your skin, and 297 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 4: sometimes it could cause one of your organs, like you're intestine, 298 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 4: to stick to the inside wall of your abdomen and 299 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 4: then the poop can't flow through correctly anymore because it 300 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 4: Think about like if you have a hose in your 301 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 4: hand and you kink it, the water doesn't get through. 302 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 4: It's the same kind of thing with your bow, and 303 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 4: that could cause you to die. 304 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: So you've got was it Mike Williams, Yeah, so he said, 305 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: and Alisa Marie Presley. Have there been any other celebrity 306 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: cases where it was reported one way and then when 307 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: you look at the case, you think, this is actually 308 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: very different than the way it was reported. 309 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 4: Oh, for Bob Saggat, for example, that was a big 310 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 4: thing that they were trying to say, you know that 311 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 4: it was related to the COVID vaccine at first, and 312 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 4: all this stuff that they went down that hill. And 313 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 4: then when I heard that he had this, that he 314 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 4: had this traumatic brain injury essentially, like I thought, okay, 315 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 4: well that's what happened, like he had to have hit 316 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 4: his head on something. And we discussed that, and there 317 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 4: was lots of people online saying certain things, and I thought, like, no, 318 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 4: you didn't you didn't look at the They were saying 319 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 4: he had to be murdered, he had to be hit 320 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 4: with a baseball bat or something significant, and I was 321 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 4: just like, nah, dude, this is he bumped his head 322 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 4: on the headboard or something. If his wife was there 323 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 4: with him or something, or someone was with him, they 324 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 4: would have noticed maybe that he wasn't okay and would 325 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 4: have called and he could have went to the hospital 326 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 4: and survived that. It just was a matter of being 327 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 4: alone and going to sleep. And after something like that, God, 328 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 4: how sad. Yeah, it is sad when stuff like that happened. 329 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: So with all of your background in medicine and pathology, 330 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: I'll say, how frustrated is it to you when things 331 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: like that do happen where there's clear evidence of what 332 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: went down, But then you have all the conspiracy theory 333 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: people popping out of the woodwork and saying, well, obviously 334 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: that was a complication of example, a COVID vaccine. Does 335 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: that drive you nuts? Yeah? 336 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 4: It does. I just try to I try to ignore 337 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 4: it because I don't want to. I don't want to 338 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 4: be like one of those troll type people that go 339 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 4: on people's page and try to call them out that 340 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 4: they're wrong or whatever. I'm just like my husband always 341 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 4: is telling me, just worry about things that you have 342 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 4: control over, you know, And it's something it's a constant 343 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 4: lesson in my life to just try to ignore that 344 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 4: kind of stuff. 345 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: So, now, looking at all of these people who you 346 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: deal in the dead, all these people who have died, 347 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: do you ever take a look at someone who is 348 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: living and say, I can see right now that there's 349 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: something going on? Yeah, yeah, what are some of the 350 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: biggest signs that you see or biggest red flags that 351 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: you see in people who are alive? 352 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 4: Still, just certain people, I'll look and see that if 353 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 4: they have like a weird skin lesion. You could see 354 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 4: if people have different kind of like swollen conditions in 355 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 4: their legs. Like a lot of time to my followers 356 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 4: will send me messages and say like, hey, what do 357 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 4: you think about this? And then I'll start asking them 358 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 4: lots of questions like I don't ever diagnose people or 359 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 4: give people. I guess I would say I do give 360 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 4: them medical advice as far as like you need to 361 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 4: try to make it a doctor's appointment with this person. 362 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 4: I don't ever say, like take this medicine or anything. 363 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 4: I just try to guide them like where I think 364 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 4: they need to go next, because they're not getting answers 365 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 4: where they're currently at. 366 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: So you know, that's very kind of you. It's also 367 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: got to be exhausting. 368 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 4: Well, I feel bad for people because people are going 369 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 4: through stuff sometimes and I'll say, send me your your 370 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 4: blood work and your CT work and I look at 371 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 4: it and the answer is like pretty obvious to me, 372 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 4: like where the next testing or something should be. But 373 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 4: the way the medical system is set up, it's like 374 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 4: you go to this doctor sometimes you need a referral 375 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 4: for this doctor. You can't get into this doctor for 376 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 4: six months. Like I wish there was a way to 377 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 4: kind of cut the bullshit for people because people are 378 00:16:58,720 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 4: suffering with stuff. 379 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: I feel like I could quiz you about this stuff 380 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: all day, not even quizzy. I'm just so fascinated by 381 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: what it is that you're doing and all the things 382 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: that you see every day. I mean, what's some of 383 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: the strangest stuff that you've had to remove from either 384 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: a body or a body part. 385 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 4: So we people don't realize this either, but if you 386 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 4: go to the emergency room, like if your kid swallows 387 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 4: a quarter, they're gonna take the quarter out of the 388 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 4: kid and send it to pathology. Everything that gets taken out. 389 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 4: So if you get your implants switched out, we get 390 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 4: the old implants. If you get a new hip replacement, 391 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 4: we get the old hip replacement hardware taken from your back. 392 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 4: And also we get really crazy stuff like like foreign 393 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 4: bodies that usually men stick up their ass and like 394 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 4: it gets stuck. 395 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: Always men, right, and it's always but mostly men. 396 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 4: It's always it's it's usually men, and it's usually men 397 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 4: because they have a prostate land and it's like the 398 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 4: clitterisa for a man. Right, So like they just instead 399 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 4: of us just talking about like men like butt whole pleasures, 400 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 4: like we can't. So they have to do these secret 401 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 4: things like stick shampoo bottles in their ass and it 402 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 4: gets sucked up and they have to go to the 403 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 4: emergency room. 404 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: First of all, a shampoo bottle is insane. 405 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 4: That's yeah, a shampoo bottle is the one of the 406 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 4: common ones. 407 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: Though I've gotten yes in the shower. I guess you're 408 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: like feeling kind of free. Yeah, if there's a mass, 409 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: you can clean it well. 410 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 4: Also, you're not ordering a dildo online or going to 411 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,719 Speaker 4: a store and buying one it's embarrassing and and and 412 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 4: that's you see that type of stuff in like the 413 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 4: older dudes especially because it's like they're not into the hole. 414 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 4: You could order this on the internet and it comes 415 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 4: in a white box and like nobody knows what it 416 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 4: is sing but believe it or not, Like this entire time, 417 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 4: of all these foreign bodies that I got at the hospital, 418 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 4: I only got a dildo one time, and it had 419 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 4: a wide base and a suction cup on it too. 420 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 4: But it's still and it was really long, but it's 421 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 4: just it got all the way up there like covered 422 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 4: in poop and everything. Still they don't clean it off. 423 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 4: It's like, but I've gotten like really like lots of 424 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 4: vegetab obviously, like cucumbers and stuff people would use. But 425 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 4: I got it like a half eatn pair once. What 426 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 4: it's just like crazy shit flashlights like just people just 427 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 4: just crazy stuff. It's the very first one I got 428 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 4: was a traveled toothbrusholder and it was on it like 429 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 4: and I don't know, I didn't know anything about it 430 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 4: when I first started and I looked at it. It 431 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 4: was like a seventy five year old guy and I 432 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 4: was like, what, why would he put this up his 433 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 4: butt and then I had to get the lesson of 434 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 4: like why guys like that? So I was like, okay, cool, 435 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 4: learn something new every day. Yeah. 436 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: Do most of these people make it through? 437 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 438 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: Oh okay, I. 439 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 4: Mean they they and and talking to the er nurses 440 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 4: and stuff a lot, they all come in and say 441 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 4: they have like these crazy stories of how they like 442 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 4: fell on it. They they never just say, hey, I 443 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 4: was pleasure in myself and it went wrong and I 444 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 4: couldn't get it out. It's there's always like this story 445 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 4: with it. But yeah, they I mean I imagine it's 446 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 4: incredibly embarrassing. 447 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: Oh sure. 448 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 4: I mean sometimes it's more difficult to and that because 449 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 4: if it's really large and they don't feel like they 450 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 4: could safely pull it out, they have to go in 451 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 4: and sometimes cut the colon open and take it out, 452 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 4: and that it's a major surgery at that point. 453 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: So the PSA here would be just by the sex toy, 454 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: it's probably safe, and the cucumber. 455 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 4: The wide based sex toy would be the most would 456 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 4: be like the safest. I would think, like, you don't 457 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 4: think about this until if when I say this, you'll 458 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 4: think about this, like when you have to poop. Right, 459 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 4: Sometimes if you can't go to the bathroom, like the 460 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 4: feeling goes away, right. Yeah, Well that that it like 461 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 4: sucks it back up out of the canal where it's 462 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 4: supposed to come out of. So if you put a 463 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 4: foreign object up there, it will suck it in and 464 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 4: you can't get it out. So you just you just 465 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 4: have to be careful. Really, you want one that you 466 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 4: could like install against the wall that's just like not going. 467 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: Anywhere, Yes, exactly, bolted down. Yeah, have you ever seen 468 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: something wild that's actually killed somebody. 469 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 4: You've had so many cases of people swallowing things that 470 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 4: you would think because not only do you have you 471 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 4: obviously have the foreign bodies from the rectum, but also 472 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 4: you have people that have mental health issues. So they're 473 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 4: like we had this guy that he would swallow broken 474 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 4: shards of glass, screws, and tips of knives, like he 475 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 4: actually would cut the tips of knives aufih And we 476 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 4: would get them like every week from the same guy. 477 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 4: He would get the procedure done, get them removed, and 478 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 4: I got a butter knife from someone's esophagus one time, 479 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 4: pens from someone's esophagus. Now that you think of this, 480 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 4: I'm thinking of a story that was on the news 481 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago that there was this girl 482 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 4: who said that she had been eating Thanksgiving dinner and 483 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 4: she choked on the turkey and she tried to get 484 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 4: it out and ended up swallowing an entire toothbrush. And 485 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 4: I called bullshit on that right away, because I was like, no, 486 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 4: that's something that's seen with people that are bollimic. They 487 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 4: use like larger objects because their fingers don't do the 488 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 4: job anymore to make the gag reflex happen. And I've 489 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 4: gotten lots of things like long items like butter knives 490 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 4: and pens and things that from people that were had bolima. 491 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: What about as far as as far as death goes, 492 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: when you see young people who were fairly healthy for 493 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: the most part, we're not talking about cancer. What is 494 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: the most common cause that you encounter. 495 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 4: Obesity one hundred percent. 496 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: And and when you say obesity, I mean obviously would 497 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: be complications from that, so like high cholesterol. 498 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's usually their heart it's it's like a heart 499 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 4: failure thing, just all of their organs covered in visceral fat, 500 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 4: which is fat on the organs. It just made your 501 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 4: your organs don't work as well when they're covered in 502 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 4: this heavy coating of the fat not only insulates, but 503 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 4: it just it restricts the heart from moving correctly. And yeah, 504 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 4: I had a guy too that he had he was 505 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 4: really morbidly obese and he just dropped out. He was 506 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 4: thirty some years old. And then when I was doing 507 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 4: the autopsy, I found all these huge lymph nodes in 508 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 4: his armpits and here yet lymphoma, but like he wouldn't 509 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 4: even have been able to know it because he was 510 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 4: just so large. Like I'm not even sure. I kept 511 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 4: feeling from the outside like if I was a physician 512 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 4: or even him to see if I could know that 513 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 4: that was there. And there was just so much fat 514 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 4: in the chest that you couldn't even feel these huge 515 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 4: lymph nodes that on an average sized person would be 516 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 4: glaring at it at a physician's appointment. And I get 517 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 4: allow of shit on Instagram because people say a fat 518 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 4: shame and everything. I just don't I don't care because 519 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'll just tell you what I see and 520 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 4: like it's not it's not how it's not healthy. Like 521 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to say your body doesn't look good. 522 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 4: The inside of your body doesn't look good, Like I 523 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 4: don't care what the outside of your body looks like. 524 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: So so for you have you know, obviously seeing these 525 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: different things, has it made you live your life differently, 526 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: eat differently? 527 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I try to be I and I get better 528 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 4: as time goes on. Like I really I don't drink 529 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 4: because I think alcohol is a huge issue too, especially 530 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 4: for people in our age range. 531 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: Like you say our age range, which age range are 532 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: you're talking to? For the people who well, I'm forty four, okay, 533 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: so I got you, like you're thirty. 534 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 4: I'm just preserved from all the formaldehyde. That's all. But 535 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 4: I would say like people that are like like thirty 536 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 4: to fifty, Like it's just like this. I talk to 537 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 4: people all the time, and I think a lot of 538 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 4: people are actually alcoholics and don't even realize it. Just 539 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 4: the amount of alcohol that's just constantly being consumed casually anymore, 540 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 4: it's poison in your body. So it's I'm just kind 541 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 4: of not into it. And it also I'm not into 542 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 4: it for other reasons, like I want to function the 543 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 4: next day, like I have a schedule. I don't I 544 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 4: like to sleep well, things like that. But yeah, as 545 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 4: far as eating goes too, like, I really am trying, 546 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,719 Speaker 4: especially now since I have little ones too, Like I 547 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 4: try to cook for the most part, I cook us 548 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 4: like scratch dinners because I am I'm scared of the 549 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 4: increased risk of colon cancer and younger people now is 550 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 4: it's like it has to be directly correlated to our food. 551 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 4: So you are what you eat kind of thing, you know. 552 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 4: So I'm just trying to stay on top of that. 553 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 4: Then the same with my weight, Like I'm like a 554 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 4: normal person. I've gone through three pregnancies, I've been up 555 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 4: to two hundred and some pounds. It's a struggle for 556 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 4: me every day. I want to eat ice cream all day, 557 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 4: like and cupcakes and everything else, right, but I know 558 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 4: what it does. So I have this rule that like 559 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 4: I'm good at this size. I'm like wear size ten 560 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 4: or size twelve. I'm like an average weight and everything 561 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 4: higher end of average. And as soon as my pants 562 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 4: start getting tight, I reel it in. I won't go. 563 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 4: That's like the biggest word of advice I have is like, 564 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 4: don't go buy a bigger pair of pants, because when 565 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 4: you could reel it in and lose five pounds. You 566 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 4: could do that easily yourself if you just restrict for 567 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 4: like two weeks, and if you let it go, then 568 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 4: now you have like an extra ten or fifteen pounds 569 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 4: you could put on in that new size, and then 570 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 4: that's way harder to lose. It's just reel it in. 571 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: What about smoking? 572 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 4: Smoking is just off limits completely, Like I will tell 573 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 4: everybody that it's just the most horrible thing you could do, 574 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 4: because it doesn't just cause lung cancer, causes like seven 575 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 4: other kinds of cancers too, and cardiovascular diseased everything. It's 576 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 4: just horrible for you. 577 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: And are you talking cigarettes or weed or both? Because 578 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: I know so many people who smoke weed. I smoke 579 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: a little weed myself, who will try and convince you 580 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: it's not as bad. 581 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 4: The biggest thing is it's like when you burn anything, 582 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 4: it changes the composition of that. So let's talk about 583 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 4: nine to eleven for example, Like if you walk by 584 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 4: those buildings all the time and stuff, nobody's getting cancer 585 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 4: from just breathing in around the buildings. But when you 586 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 4: set them on fire along with whatever was added to it, 587 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 4: jet fuel, whatever, all of a sudden, that's a carcinogen. 588 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 4: And that's why all those firefighters and first responders got 589 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 4: cancer from being on that site around that stuff all 590 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 4: the time. And I've had I used to be that 591 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 4: weed person because I love smoking weed. I haven't done 592 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 4: it in three or four years now, like at all, 593 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 4: because I just am starting to see how that was. 594 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 4: Like this whole no one's ever died from weed, nothing's 595 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 4: and and now you're starting to learn that that is 596 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 4: not the truth. And there's I feel like it was 597 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 4: inducing anxiety on me. There's lots of studies showing that 598 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 4: it could cause psychosis as you get older and all 599 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 4: this stuff, and that was why I got off of it. 600 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 4: And another thing I have to say about that too, 601 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 4: is when they say that people are getting cancer and 602 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 4: stuff from cigarettes. Weed has only been like okay to 603 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 4: say out loud to your doctor in the past couple 604 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 4: of years. If they said to you, even when we 605 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 4: were in our twenties, like do you do you do 606 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 4: at recreational drugs, you would probably say no to your 607 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 4: doctor because you're scared you're gonna get in trouble or 608 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 4: something or. 609 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: They're gonna judge you. Yeah, I don't want to feel that. 610 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 4: So how do we really know if people were smoking 611 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 4: weed this whole time, if they were getting lung cancer 612 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 4: from it or or not. Like you just don't you 613 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 4: don't really know. I think that now that it's legal 614 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 4: most places and now we could kind of monitor it 615 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 4: a little bit more and people are more open to 616 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 4: saying that they use it. We'll see what happens in 617 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 4: ten years from now. 618 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: You were mentioning that when somebody takes something out of 619 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: a body, whether it's a breast implant or a bullet, 620 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: it comes to you, guys, and you take a look 621 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: at it. Are you seeing an increase in breast cancer? 622 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: What are they calling an implant. 623 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 4: Disease breast implant illness? You're saying yes, So it does 624 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 4: seem like it's a real thing that every person doesn't experience. 625 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 4: And a lot of these things that come up, like 626 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 4: fatigue and stuff. It's women will get breast in plants 627 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 4: when they're twenty and then when they're thirty five they 628 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 4: start saying they feel fatigue it's from their implants and 629 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 4: this and that. You're like, well that happens when you're 630 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 4: thirty five. Sure, So there's like this back and forth 631 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 4: thing with it. But there are people that get them 632 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 4: taken out and don't get them replaced. And when I 633 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 4: first started working in pathology, I would get a lot 634 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 4: of these, like the old school ones that used to 635 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 4: cause problems that ruptured. They were crazy because they were 636 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 4: made with like silicone almost like glue stuff that you 637 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 4: would get like home depot inside the bag. So when 638 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 4: they ruptured and we would just take them out to 639 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 4: examine them, it was so sticky it would stick to 640 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 4: our floor. We didn't have any chemicals to even clean 641 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 4: it up, because think about getting glue all over the place, Like, 642 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 4: how do you clean that up if you don't have 643 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 4: special solvents to get it up. 644 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: And that's just inside your body. 645 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was leaking inside these women's bodies. So 646 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 4: now now they're solidified silicones, so even if they rupture, 647 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 4: they kind of stay in one place and they don't 648 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 4: cause as many problems. But yeah, I mean people again, 649 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 4: people don't realize that women have problems with these things 650 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 4: all the time. 651 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: With the rise of cosmetic surgery, things like BBLS, butt shot, 652 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: silicone injects or you know, filler injections, all that kind 653 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: of stuff are using an increase in people dying and 654 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: getting sick because of that. 655 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 4: I haven't personally seen that, but we just did. We 656 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 4: did another celebrity death disseection a couple a couple of 657 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 4: weeks ago on a celebrity who died as a result 658 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 4: of getting a BBL. There there was a lot of 659 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 4: medical medical examiners and surgeons got together because there was 660 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 4: such an increase in these deaths. It's the highest cause 661 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 4: of death in plastic surgery. 662 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: The BBL. Yeah, yeah, and wait, can you just for 663 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: a second, will you explain what the BBL is. 664 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 4: So a BBL is a Brazilian butt lift and it 665 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 4: became popular with like Kardashian people and stuff. And what 666 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 4: they do is they take fat from one area of 667 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 4: your body and transfer it to another area of your body. 668 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 4: And they're supposed to do it on a certain plane 669 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 4: over your gluteous maximus muscle. So it because if you 670 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 4: go within the muscle, there's a risk that you could 671 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 4: hit the gluteal artery and then the fat then could 672 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 4: get into your body and cause an embolism. It could 673 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 4: travel around and get stuck in your lung, just like 674 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 4: a blood clock could. 675 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: And with the surgery there's a higher propensity for that 676 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: to happen if the. 677 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 4: Surgeon's not good. Okay, The thing is is that they 678 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 4: have these clinics that they set up and they do 679 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 4: way more procedures a day than they showed in doctors 680 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 4: are rushing, they might not have the best training, and 681 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,479 Speaker 4: that seemed to be what happened in her kind of 682 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,719 Speaker 4: case too. And but it's a bunch of surgeons and 683 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,959 Speaker 4: medical examiners got together and like dissected these people that 684 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 4: died from this to find out like exactly what happened. 685 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 4: And they would cut through the gluteus maximus muscle and 686 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 4: see like fat embedded in there, which means that they 687 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 4: were sticking the tool like way too deep, which would 688 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 4: probably give you like a more desired effect. So that's 689 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 4: like another that would probably look better as far as 690 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 4: a surgery standpoint, but it's way more dangerous and any 691 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 4: like respectable surgeon probably would touch that because it's so risky. 692 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: You know, you go by, I will let you say it. 693 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 4: And it's Latin, oh yeah, more to ivivo stocent, which 694 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 4: means the dead teach the living. 695 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: Because how would we learn about anything, how would we 696 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: know what to stay away from if we didn't see 697 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: all of these so as much as it creeps people 698 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: out and it breaks people out, it's so important. And 699 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm really glad that people like you were doing it 700 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: because I know I couldn't. I know, we talked about 701 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: what the most common cause of death in young people 702 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: would be. What is the most common cause of death 703 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: just in general? 704 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 4: I don't really know. I don't really want to say, 705 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 4: because I don't know. Statistics wise, I would say, do 706 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 4: you see the most It's difficult because if someone has 707 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 4: cancer and has stage four cancer and they go home 708 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 4: and they're dying and they're on hospice, there's a high 709 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 4: probability that we would never autopsy them because we don't 710 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 4: do autopsies on everyone that dies, because it just would 711 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 4: be impossible because so many people die every day. I 712 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 4: know everybody thinks that people just started dying during COVID, 713 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 4: but like they've been dying all They've been dying, yes, 714 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 4: for a long time, every day. So usually, especially hospital 715 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 4: autopsies are driven by the family, like they want to 716 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 4: know what happened to their loved one. And if you 717 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 4: know that your loved one has the stage four pancreas 718 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 4: cancer and that's when they're dying, like why why give 719 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 4: them an autopsy? So even though we do see cancer, 720 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 4: sometimes at autopsy it's it's not really a good representation 721 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 4: of like how many people are actually dying from cancer. 722 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 4: And then other times we get just interesting cases of 723 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 4: people that might have been sick in the hospital for 724 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 4: a couple of weeks and they really didn't know what 725 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 4: was going on with them, and then we did the 726 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 4: autopsy and figured it out. A lot of times, if 727 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 4: a person's really sick, they can't do really invasive biopsies 728 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 4: and stuff to figure out what's going on because they're 729 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 4: just too stick to get in a seizure or something. 730 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: I was in the hospital for a couple weeks over 731 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: the summer. Oh and yeah, so it was an issue 732 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: with my kidney that to this day we're not one 733 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: hundred percent shore exactly how it happened or why it happened. 734 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: When Andrew came to give me this book, we opened 735 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: it just to a random page and it was on 736 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: the kidney page. Oh wow, and both of us just 737 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: kind of stopped for a second, like, I don't know 738 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: if this means anything or what this means, but that's crazy. 739 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: And that's when I started flipping through and seeing all 740 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: these other things and then telling myself I have all 741 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: of these issues, which hopefully I don't. But the book 742 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: is fascinating. It's Nicole and Jemmy's Anatomy Book, a catalog 743 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: of familiar, rare, and unusual pathologies. How long did this 744 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: take you? 745 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 4: It took It took a couple of years. Honestly, I'm thick. 746 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 4: It wasn't the writing that took the long time. It 747 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 4: was the getting everything I wanted and communicating with people, 748 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 4: interviewing because there's over one hundred cases in the book, 749 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 4: and I interviewed every single person, had to get them 750 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 4: to fill out like photo release forms, and so I 751 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 4: did a through z all of your body parts. And 752 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 4: then I had to find cases for all of those 753 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 4: body parts, and some of them were more obscure and 754 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 4: not as easy to find. 755 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite couple cases in here? 756 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 4: Yeah? I do. This girl was in a car accident, 757 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 4: which anybody woman was in a car accident, anybody could 758 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 4: understand that. But her arm got pinned in the car 759 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 4: and they said basically like we can't move this car. 760 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 4: We have to cut your arm off right here, oh 761 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 4: right there, yes, like like on the scene and I thought, 762 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 4: oh my god, like people need to read this because 763 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 4: this is this is insane. Think about you being wide awaken, 764 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 4: them telling you like we're going to have to end 765 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 4: a surgeon there to cut your arm off right now. 766 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 4: I just can't even imagine what you would mentally go through. 767 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 4: She learned how to tie her shoes with one arm, 768 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 4: like just amazing stories of She sent me a video 769 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 4: of for self tying a shoe and she just has 770 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 4: this attitude like now I'm gonna figure that out. I'm 771 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 4: gonna do that, and I love that. That's the kind 772 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 4: of stuff I wanted to share. 773 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: It's this book is fascinating. I thank you. It's one 774 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: of those I want to leave on my coffee table 775 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 1: just so people pick it up and start flipping through, 776 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: like what the fuck is that? Oh my god, But 777 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: I know our time is up. I could probably talk 778 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: to you for a thousand hours, but instead I will 779 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: tell everybody else to follow you at missus n Jemmy 780 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: on Instagram. You can google the Gross Room to find 781 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: her website, and she also has a podcast called Mother 782 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: Knows Death. I have a feeling I'm gonna be seeing 783 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: you and hearing from you a whole lot more. Thank you, Andrew, 784 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: Were you happy with that? 785 00:35:59,080 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 3: Everything? 786 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 2: I wanted more? 787 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: Your brain actually fascinates me because you seem so happy 788 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: and like life is so amazing, everything's wonderful. And then 789 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,919 Speaker 1: you have all these little, dark, twisted sides of you. Yeah, 790 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 1: that you hide so well. 791 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun. 792 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: Signs of a serial killer. I want to say that 793 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: you're on a podcast serial killers. 794 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 3: Oh, cereal with the sea, right, cereal with the sea. 795 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 1: But we know what I was talking about. Anyway, Time 796 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: for the Burned Book. 797 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 3: I've been loving this segment so much. 798 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: The two people that we burned were somehow ourselves and Kevin. 799 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 2: G the clownery. 800 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: The Clownery. Indeed, the burn Book in itself is just trash, 801 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: but I love it. Like what small minor inconvenience is 802 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: pissing you off today? Let me tell you know who 803 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:45,919 Speaker 1: I want to put on my burn Book. 804 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 4: I know you know this. 805 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: I was gonna have a guest on the show. She 806 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: goes by Elizabeth Ovison now formerly known as Kurr and Stephens. 807 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: If you were around in the early two thousands and 808 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: read trashy books like I did, she had a series 809 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 1: called Confessions of a video vixen. 810 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,720 Speaker 3: My sister was obsessed with that book series. 811 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, fascinating, Andrew. I can't tell you how many times 812 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: I will like drop a reference from these books because 813 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: they're so crazy, and she never got sued for any 814 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: of it, So you think, okay, this stuff is true. 815 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:11,240 Speaker 4: Now. 816 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: I was so obsessed with those books back when they 817 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: came out. I think I read all three of them 818 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: in like one bath. It's an easy read, fascinating one bath. 819 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: So when I saw that she was online and now 820 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: she's under a different name, what are you laughing? 821 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 2: I've never heard of a bath as a measurement of time. 822 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: Now you have one bath all three bam, bam bam, 823 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 1: just knock them out. So it might have gotten cold. 824 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I was in there. That's how. 825 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: That's specifically how I remember reading those books. So I 826 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: saw she's kind of done this like reinvention of herself, 827 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: and she's got this sort of blog and like women's 828 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: help self help thing going on. Then I thought, okay, 829 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: this is interesting. I love to see a good plot twist, 830 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: a turn in life, people evolving going from one thing 831 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: to another. So I reached out to her to say, hey, 832 00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,439 Speaker 1: you want to be on this podcast. She was like, yeah, 833 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 1: absolutely to do it. You saw these emails back and forth. 834 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: We decided we were going to lock down a day. 835 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 1: She changed the data a couple times. She actually wanted 836 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: to fly in from LA to sit in here and 837 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: do the podcast, which I love that. I'm not going 838 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: to stop anyone. She said she had some other business here. 839 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 1: All good. Change the data a couple times, no problem, 840 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: I live here. We can do it whenever you want. Now, 841 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: when we do these things, we ask people to send 842 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 1: us a one sheet. And a one sheet is. 843 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 3: It's basically just a bio picture. 844 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit about your current projects, right. 845 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: She sent us novels of things. There were like seventeen 846 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: different projects. The bio was pages and pages long. There 847 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 1: was a lot going on. So I asked her a 848 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: few days before, hey, you think you could just send 849 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: us a one sheet of what's going on? And she 850 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: didn't do it. Not a big deal. Now we're getting 851 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 1: ready for the morning of she's been in town. We 852 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: see her posting on Instagram that she's in New York, 853 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,720 Speaker 1: and I say to her, because there was some stuff 854 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: going on behind the scenes here, Hey, how long are 855 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: you in town because that specific day we were missing 856 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: like three people from the show. Things were a little chaotic. 857 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: I said, hey, if you're in town and you can 858 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: do this tomorrow, let's do it tomorrow. Things got a 859 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: little bit careaotic behind the scenes here. But if you can't, 860 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: no problem. Still happy to make it work. I'm excited 861 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: to see you, she says, awesome, I'll see you in 862 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 1: a few minutes. Fast forward, getting ready to do this interview, 863 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: I opened my email a gasp. I got basically told 864 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: off by this woman, and the reasoning was bizarre. Hold on, 865 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: let me pull up the email. Andrew, do you want 866 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: to do the dramatic recreation or should I scream? 867 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 2: You scrumped this scream. 868 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, why this is insane. 869 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 2: I just remember when you got the message, you were like. 870 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 1: What it was crazy? Okay, you do it. You're way 871 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: better at dramatic readings. 872 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 2: I like that your arms are so short that you 873 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 2: can't Andrew. 874 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 1: Okay, So now keep in mind, last email from her 875 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: was great, see you in a few minutes and roll. 876 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 2: Hi, Mada. 877 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,720 Speaker 3: To be frank, I'm unnerved by the quote unquote chaotic 878 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 3: circumstances You've described and Frank, I wish you had never 879 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 3: exposed me to that energy. It's unusual at best to 880 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 3: rattle a guest before in appearance. I'm also not quite 881 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 3: sure if you even know who I am or which 882 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 3: topics you'd. 883 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 4: Like to cover. 884 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: Mam, I do, and I do. 885 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 3: I sent you everything you needed to know weeks ago, 886 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 3: but still don't feel as if you're prepared or organize. 887 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,240 Speaker 2: Although I came here. 888 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 3: Specifically for this interview, I'm now thinking it was a 889 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 3: mistake based on your last minute communications, and I've decided 890 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 3: to forego the interview. 891 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: I got told off by the way. Her nickname was Superhead. 892 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: I got told off by Superhead in an email for 893 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 1: being unprepared and chaotic. She said I never should have 894 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 1: brought her that energy. I okay, fine, maybe not. I've 895 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: learned for the future, but let me just say I 896 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: know the energy she's been around. We all read these books. 897 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: That was not the thing that should have knocked her 898 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: off her game. But here we are, and that is 899 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: why I am flaming. Elizabeth Ovison Akakren Stephan's aka Superhead. 900 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to your burn glued and done done, and now 901 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 1: we get to the ask me anything you want to 902 00:40:59,320 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: go through on. 903 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 3: Let me see what I have for you, all right, 904 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 3: so for your ask me anything? Okay, so many great questions. 905 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 3: This one comes from h war gag I eleven. 906 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: That sounds like not a bot, totally not. 907 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 2: How many tattoos do you have? 908 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 4: Oh? 909 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 1: How many do you think I have? Andrew? I'll just 910 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 1: ask you this four Ooh, you're one short. I have 911 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 1: three at the moment, I want to get two more. 912 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 1: I have the places picked out, and all of my 913 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: tattoos are in places where nobody would see them unless 914 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,280 Speaker 1: I wanted them to. So I have one on my hip, 915 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: I have one on my left butt cheek, and I 916 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: have one that's pretty big that goes across my heart. 917 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: And I love all of them except the one on 918 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: my hip, which is absolutely jail house trash. 919 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:50,280 Speaker 2: What is it? 920 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: It was a bad idea, but it was a good 921 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: idea at the moment. So you know, I have a 922 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 1: boyfriend who passed away while we were dating, and I 923 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: thought it would be a wonderful idea to get his 924 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 1: nickname tattooed on me when I was in a state 925 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 1: of morning and really not thinking clearly, so I went 926 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: to this little shitty place in Fort Lauderdale Beach and 927 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: the guy was like, yeah, no problem, like smoking a cigarette, Yeah, 928 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,800 Speaker 1: no problem, And he just like hand wrote it in cursive. 929 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: It is the ugliest, shittiest tattoo ever. It's his nickname, 930 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: so his Hadji from I forget what the cartoon was 931 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 1: because I never watched it. Uh, Johnny Quest, Does that 932 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 1: sound right? 933 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, Haiji from Johnny Quest. 934 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was Hodgi from Johnny Quest. So it says 935 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: my Hodgie. And it's just written terribly. I think it's like, 936 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,720 Speaker 1: you know how they kind of bleed after a while. 937 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: It's green, it's not even black anymore. It's so bad. 938 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to get it fixed. Our buddies at ink 939 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 1: said whatever you want, like, come in, we'll take care 940 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: of it. We do this stuff all the time. You 941 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 1: could even laser it off. I don't want to laser 942 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 1: it off. I want it to be there. I just 943 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: wanted to evolve. Got it from the piece of shit 944 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: Jill House tattoo that it is the other one is 945 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 1: an um sign, and then the one across my heart 946 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: says this too shall pass. But it looks like a 947 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: radio wave and a heartbeat together, and it's got a 948 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 1: little bit of drippy blood on it. Oh yeah, and 949 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: nobody will ever see it unless I want them to. 950 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 2: I love that. 951 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: Thanks and that's our ask me anything. 952 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:07,879 Speaker 2: That was so fun And. 953 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 1: That wraps up the podcast. So episode three Andrew. 954 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,359 Speaker 2: In the Books done. I'm so god he hates someone. 955 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 2: I say that. 956 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 1: You want to say Hi, Scott bye? Oh my gosh, 957 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: what are you talking about? 958 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 2: Nope? Bye? 959 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: Okay, And on that note, we're out of here. 960 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 3: Follow you on at Baby Hot Sauce. Yes, make sure 961 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 3: you like, subscribe, make sure you review this podcast, share 962 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 3: it with your friends. The response has been so amazing. 963 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 3: You've gone so many downloads. The first couple of episodes 964 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 3: been awesome. 965 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:33,240 Speaker 2: It going. 966 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 1: Everyone is awesome. Yes, we'll see you next time. 967 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 3: Bye bye