WEBVTT - Girls Talk, 'Boys Talk: A Win is a Win 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:04.920 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:06.800 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:09.879 Cowboys. 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:16.120 This is Girls Talk Boys Talk, presented by Jigsaw Dating, 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:21.200 preferred dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys, and broadcasting live 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:24.560 from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters. 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:28.000 At the Star. Now your host, Nicole Hutchison. 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:34.480 Well surprise everybody, Happy Victory Friday. Welcome to Girls Talk 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:37.159 Boys Talk, presented by Jigsaw, the preferred dating partner of 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:40.280 the Dallas Cowboys. Jessnavar is Aisha Morris and Christie Scales 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:43.800 here in the s w p BC podcast. Oh my goodness, 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:45.680 a little rusty with this hosting. 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:48.800 Okay, it's been a minute. Nicole is out today. 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:50.320 She will be back next week. 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:52.280 So in the meantime, you guys get to deal with 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:54.400 the puns on puns on puns. I have to make 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:58.040 Nicole proud while she's gone, So don't you worry. 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:00.320 I wrote some down. I will not let up today. 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:02.520 I will make her proud with that. Ladies. 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:04.840 Cowboys are now two and two of the season as 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:08.800 they defeat the GMN twenty to fifteen. Did we all 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:11.680 go back and check our final score predictions? How close 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:12.039 were we? 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:13.000 How close. Were we not? 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:16.800 Think I had it twenty eight twenty Is that right something? 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:19.160 It sounds yeahs were right in there. 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:19.760 Uh huh. 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:20.080 Yeah. 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:24.480 So I was a little bit over in my prediction 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:27.759 in terms of points scored, but it was fairly close 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:30.200 to the ratio of the win. Do you remember that, 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:32.200 it was like we were almost identical. 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:34.600 I oh no, I think it was like twenty three 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:36.840 twenty seven something like that. 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:38.679 So now I was less than it. 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:41.800 Yeah, I think you have put the scoring. Yeah. 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:44.319 I had the Giants like twenty or something like that, 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:46.840 the Cowboys like twenty three something. I know I was 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:49.360 twenty twenty three because they were only averaging. 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:52.040 Wait, I'm the only one that picked Cowboys that came. 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:55.880 I picked the Cowboys. But twenty twenty three. 0:01:56.520 --> 0:02:00.000 All right, ladies, very low scoring game. But I guess 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.880 the biggest storylines to come out of this week those 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:07.240 injuries man one after another after another. 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:08.560 You hate to see it. 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:10.640 And then we'll get into the penalties as well, since 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:14.079 that was another big storyline of the game. Christy, I'm 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:15.720 gonna go to you for this one, because the two 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:18.440 biggest injuries out of the game, obviously to Marcus Lawrence 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:23.399 and Micah Parsons. There was some updates from various sources 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:26.040 around Twitter that Mike is dealing with a high ankle 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:30.720 spring and that DeMarcus Lawrence will be out for a 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:34.359 few weeks TBD on how long with a foot injury? 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:36.440 Christy on the sideline view for both of those, What 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:36.799 did you. 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:39.680 See well with DeMarcus Lawrence? At first, I was hopeful 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:42.639 that he might get back in the game because when 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:44.800 he came over to the sideline and it was obviously 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:47.079 they were looking at his left foot and they had 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:49.800 removed the sock and the shoe and they were checking 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:52.200 on him and then took him to the locker room. 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:54.680 And it was not long after that he returned to 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:59.079 the bench area with a shoe on and was down 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.440 in the bench area going through movements where you get 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:03.640 down in the stance and come up out of the stance. 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:05.840 He was testing that foot to see if he could 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:09.000 fire off right, if he could move and move laterally 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:11.560 and everything. And so he did that for a couple 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:14.480 of minutes, and then he went to the training table 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:17.760 which is just behind the bench, and they removed the 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:20.960 shoe in the sock again and taped it up and 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:23.800 put the shoe back on, and then he was standing 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:26.640 on the sideline with his helmet, not sitting on the bench, 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.760 but literally standing on the sideline as if he were 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:32.800 ready to go back in. But he never re entered 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:36.880 the game. And then with Micah, you know, he really 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:39.440 couldn't put any weight. That was late in the fourth quarter, 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:42.320 and he really couldn't put any weight on that left 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:46.760 foot ankle, as he needed to be helped to the sideline. 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:50.240 They took him immediately to the blue medical tent and 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:54.000 then within I could see probably a minute and a 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.960 half two minutes later, I can see they walkie talkie 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:00.440 and call for the cart to come out from the tunnel. 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:03.600 And so when I see the walkie talking, I'm thinking, oh, oh, 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:08.160 here comes the cart. So he really it's only like 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:12.120 two steps from the blue medical tent onto the cart, 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:14.160 and he wasn't moving real well to get on it. 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:17.080 So I thought, uh, oh, this could be at least 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:21.440 a few weeks. But you know, he had a like 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:26.520 a wrap with the ice on it in the locker 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:29.359 room after the game, and then I saw him wearing 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:34.240 shoes on the on the team flight home. But you know, 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.080 it's a whole different thing when you wake up the 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:38.760 next morning and then you go get the MRI. So 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.520 with a high ankle spring, that's something that can sign 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:44.680 sideline you. Just as you said, at least a few weeks. 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.240 Yeah, I mean, and then I would assume some of 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.279 the adrenaline goes away and stuff. 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:50.320 He's probably feeling it. 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:53.960 And also to Micah, through his collegiate career and obviously 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:55.680 the start of his career with the Cowboys, like he's 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:57.719 been able to play through quite a bit, but this 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:00.680 doesn't feel this clearly wasn't something he could playthrough. So 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.240 in regard to DeMarcus Lawrence, man, like listen, I think 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:07.160 coming into this season, I was mentioned in that that 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.599 I was worried about the d in depth with the 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:15.080 past rush and so this is it's disappointing. But specifically 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:18.320 with DeMarcus Lawrence, He's had quite a few injuries with 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:22.880 his feet and so this kind of being a reoccurring 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:25.560 thing with him, I'm sure is disheartening for him. But 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:30.599 it also too feet are delicate things when it comes 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:33.480 to this game, and I think, like depending on how 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:37.839 severe this is and stuff like that, like it, it 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:39.800 just doesn't feel good for where he is in his 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:40.880 career and. 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:43.760 This is his last year on this contract. 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:45.400 Yes, Christy, Yes, that's right. 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:45.680 Yeah. 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:47.320 Yeah, So it's a lot of feels. 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:50.200 So when you mentioned to me him standing on the 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.520 sideline with this helmet and stuff like, I just wonder 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:53.239 what he was thinking. 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:54.960 I wonder what he was feeling and things like. 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:58.279 That, because this is a pivotal time and towards the 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:02.520 you know, in his career. So yeah, well, I'm sure 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:05.080 we're going to talk about the actual game and everything, 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:08.080 but for him as a person, I feel for him 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:09.120 as a person. 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:12.560 Yeah, he's the heart and soul of the defense. I 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:16.200 know Micah is the superstar and Trayvon is a huge 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.800 star as well, but the heart and soul, the hustle 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.880 of the defense is DeMarcus Lawrence. The dirty work. I'm 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:23.920 not saying that the other guys don't do dirty work, 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:27.520 because they do, but DeMarcus Lawrence consistently, he is the 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.719 dog of the defense. Yeah, and the unquestioned leader. And 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:34.680 I know that coach McCarthy has team captains on a 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:37.120 week to week, game by game basis and not for 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:39.720 the whole season, but I don't think there's any question 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.080 that d law is the leader of the defense and 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:45.280 one of the best leaders on the entire entire team, 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:46.120 not just defense. 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.800 Yeah, and I wanted to ask you Christy, since you 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:53.120 were there, did you think and again from my perspective 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:54.680 on the broadcast, I don't know if you can. 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:55.599 Attest to this as well. 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:59.760 Obviously there was some rain in the forecast beforehand. Was 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:03.719 that impacting? Do you feel kind of how this game 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:05.960 went injury wise? Because those weren't the only two I 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:10.360 mean between the flags and the timehouse for injuries. I mean, 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.200 it was one after another after another. Do you feel 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:15.440 like that contributed to it? Because we'll get into the 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:18.560 tackling later, but overall, how did you feel like those grounds? 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:21.240 It was muggy. Yeah, I think that the temperature at 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:24.480 kickoff was probably like seventy five or seventy six, But 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:28.880 it was humid because it didn't rain in the afternoon, 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:30.920 but it had rained earlier in the day. It had 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.680 rained the day before, so everything was like moist and 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:37.880 then even just the everything was I always used the 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:42.000 word clousy, cloudy and lousy. It was clousy outside, very overcast, 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:44.320 good and the air was kind of heavy. But the 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:47.080 thing is at the meadow Lands whenever we play the 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:50.240 Giants or the Jets up there, winds, you know, that's 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:54.520 always a factor. It was completely still yesterday, not even 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:58.200 a breeze down there, which is good for your special teams, 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:02.040 because I remember remarking in the pregame, I can't remember 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:05.600 a game at the meadow Lands where weather, even just 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:07.960 wind was not going to be a factor in the 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:12.240 game because it affects special teams particularly. But it was 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:15.720 completely still yesterday, which made it feel even muggier and hotter. 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:19.360 So they actually had the cooling fans going on the 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.080 sideline during the game, I assume on the Giant sideline 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:25.000 as well. But we saw that Trayvon Diggs cramped up 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.680 there in the fourth quarter and ended up going in 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.280 for an IV. He was backed by the next series, 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:33.679 so we only missed a few plays. And then Marris 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:36.640 Leathol that was early in the third quarter, just a 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:40.559 little bit of cramping up, and he returned later in 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.439 the same series, so just missed a couple of plays. Frankly, 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:46.960 I'm surprised that more players didn't have to be treated 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:47.720 for dehydration. 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:52.480 So yeah, is that is that because of the humidity 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:54.400 or the lack of air. 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.560 It just felt it was still and then it was muggy, 0:08:57.559 --> 0:08:59.840 and so you just didn't really have a lot of circulation. 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:03.000 Just the air just felt heavy because it was so humid. 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:03.720 That's sice. 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.320 And what's interesting is you go back to week one 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:11.040 and there was a lot of cramping dehydration issues to 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:14.400 which you know, I was told it was being addressed 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:17.120 at that point by the team to figure out. So 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:20.280 it's interesting now your you're two road games and cramping 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:23.280 and dehydration has been an issue for both. So I'm 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.880 not sure if they need to readdress that or we 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:28.079 need to drink more water. 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:30.679 So reminder of anything. If you're watching, everybody drink more 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:31.240 water please. 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.640 So uh, here's a tip. I think I've shared this 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:36.920 on the show before, but maybe it was last year. 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.920 If you're ever on an NFL sideline and you decide 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:43.240 you're going to raid the gatorade cooler and pull out 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:46.520 one of the bottles of gatorade, If it has a 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:49.840 piece of white tape on the side of the gatorade, 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:55.240 that means it's spiked with pedlite for extra you know, 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.800 it's an extra way to get hydrated. So so if 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:01.040 someone's cramping up or getting dehydrated. You'll see them over 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:04.600 there slamming those right. It's got the extra stuff in it. 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.720 So I made the Ricky mistake many years ago of 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:10.640 I'm just gonna grab one of the garrets, like, oh 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.320 my goodness in this and I saw the white tape 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:15.800 and I'm like, oh, now, I know what that means. 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:18.560 Well, a little extra there, and a little extra on 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:21.800 the penalty side a thing are usual. I'm gonna defer 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:25.079 to you for this one. Eleven penalties for eighty nine yards. 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:30.400 I think I had nightmares of the officiating crew throwing 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:33.440 the penalty flags. I'm not gonna lie to you. What 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:36.320 did you see when you were watching this game? Was 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:39.440 it the officiating? Was it the lack of discipline? Is 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:41.920 it somewhere in the middle. What did you see from 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:45.199 how the Cowboys played? Were all of them warranted thoughts? 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:47.840 Yeah, I would say somewhere in the middle. 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.280 As far as how the game was called and some 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.720 of the calls, I think this is something we're starting 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.280 to see specifically with like Thursday night games, like the 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:59.439 pacing and everything is this is kind of the norm 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:01.440 at this point. But I will say as far as 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:05.000 the Cowboys, the pre snat penalties were things like these 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:07.280 are things they're doing to themselves, jumping off sides and 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:10.240 stuff like that. But in regard to some of the holds, 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:14.600 I do think that some of this needs to be 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:18.679 revisited because when you're from what I'm noticing is that 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:23.640 defensive ends are ripping through and they're not calling this 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:26.040 as a hold anymore. I think it's I think it's 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.800 kind of reminds me of in basketball when when guys 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:29.520 grabbed the ball and. 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:31.200 They just ripped through to draw the foul. 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.400 It's the same concepts in the sense of the rest 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:39.200 aren't calling it anymore. And quite honestly, I can't explain it, 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:42.800 like I feel like that gives advantage to the offense 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.679 in a way, like why wouldn't you call it? But anyway, 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:48.240 I just think that I looked at some of the 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:51.480 holding calls. Tyler Goton had two huge ones in this game, 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:53.520 and you go look at them and you just like 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:57.839 I mean, and the problem is it's the it's the 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.520 rip no that's giving him trouble, and that's why he's 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:02.880 holding because his hands number one. His hand placement is 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:05.280 something we've talked about, something that coming out of the 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:09.080 draft people were worried about anyway. But and I also 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:11.280 believe he's reliners recovering a little bit too much. But 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:17.440 this the penalties in regard to holds right now, I'm 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:21.560 not it's not consistent with how they're calling it. And 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.800 I just think it that I'm sure that if I'm sure, 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:26.280 they're going to go back and look at this game 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:29.480 and I because it was so many penalties on both sides. 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.120 I mean, but yeah, that's what I saw. 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:35.160 I thought that the some of the officiating. 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:37.160 Was confusing, to say the least. 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.080 But as far as the Cowboys go, it's hard to 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:43.000 not say like this is who they are when the 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:45.440 fact that like penalties are something that have kind of 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:48.880 carried with them through this time. It's like this is 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:50.839 is this just a part of what this team is, 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:53.320 is that they're going to be highly penalized, despite some 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:54.480 of them being like what the heck? 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:55.120 You know what? 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:58.520 I go back to as I remember Tyler Smith's rookie year, 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:02.160 he was the most penalized player on the team as well. 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:06.520 So I kind of am interested to dig a little 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:13.280 more into the similarities of why these rookie linemen specifically 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:16.920 under Mike McCarthy, the Mike McCarthy era have so much trouble, 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.360 you know, not getting those pre snap penalties. And I 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.000 remember the Tyler's first year when I asked him about it, 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:23.800 he said, it's on me. 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:24.320 It's on me. 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.880 But it's hard to not see a pattern here when 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:30.480 you have two very young, you know, linemen. 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:32.240 At the time, Tyler was a rookie. 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:36.800 Now other Tyler is a rookie too now dealing with 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:40.800 these penalties, but again he had a handful to be 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.160 dealing with. And overall, Christy, I mean, you look at 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:43.960 those penalties. 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:45.520 It was rough. 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.280 I mean, stopping the game that much. It's something you 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:50.160 don't want to see. And usually you're not going to 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.560 win a game with eleven penalties, So. 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:55.960 Right, there were more than eleven because there were at 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:59.480 least three that were off setting or not accepted, and 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:04.720 only four on the Giants. There were more, there were more, 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:09.559 but again offsetting. But yes, it did affect the flow 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.480 of the game because there was no flow. It was 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:15.880 all fits and starts. And I know that we're saying, well, 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:18.240 you know, look at these run game numbers. Man, they 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.040 said it was better, but they still need to pick 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:23.240 it up. What about like the nine yard run by 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:26.080 Zeke which gets nullified. I think there was a good 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:32.920 one by Rico to the side one outside. So you know, 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:37.840 what you have to look at is not the eleven 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.680 penalties for eighty nine yards. You have to look at 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:44.960 hidden yardage. So if you have a holding, let's use 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:49.040 a Zeke nine yard run that gets nullified. First of all, 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:52.600 you wipe away the nine yards right, and you're backed 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:57.000 up ten yards for the holding penalty. That's nineteen hidden 0:14:57.080 --> 0:15:00.840 yards on that one play. So now you're let's pretend 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:06.640 it was first down, it's second, it's first and twenty 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:11.760 instead of that. So with your nineteen yards in hidden yardage, 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:16.640 and the old football axiom is that one hundred hidden 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:23.120 yards equals a touchdown. So I see eighty nine yards 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:26.040 on the stat sheet, but I'd say it was more 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:29.160 like one hundred and fifty yards at least in hidden yards. 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:32.840 And that's about nine or ten points right there. And 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:37.520 so but the other thing was there. I don't know 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.600 that we've ever seen that much laundry on the field, 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:44.040 because there were times where two kidding two cowboy, you know, 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:47.880 they had their choice between Bebe and Tyler Smith. And 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.520 poor Bebe ends up with the penalty instead of Tyler, 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.600 so it goes against his stat sheet. But oh my gosh, 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:56.920 and same thing with the Giants. There were times where 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.720 there were two flags out on the field for something 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:02.680 they'd so yes, it was very frustrating, and you can 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:05.240 even feel it with the fans. The fans were booing, 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:09.880 you know, just just the fact that that that the 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:14.240 officiating crew was so involved in. But at the same time, well, 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.240 but I would say most of them were warranted, really. 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:20.440 Well, and some were uncalled or called on the wrong 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:22.840 opponent because that should really be twelve when you go 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:25.720 back and look at the demo face mask that it 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.640 was called not on him, but I mean, you would 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:31.560 have added another penalty in fifteen yards to your point there, 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:33.800 What I wanted to ask you guys, and I'll go 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:37.160 to you Aisha first, is what does this win mean 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:38.080 for the Cowboys? 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:39.240 Did you see improvement? 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:42.560 Is this, you know, kind of a starting line for 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:43.440 more to come? 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:44.880 Where are you now? 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:49.000 You know, a mini bye week, two more weeks until 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:53.800 your bye the real bye week, and you have pretty 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:56.240 tough opponents coming up in the Steelers and the Lions. 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:58.600 What does this win mean for this team these next 0:16:58.640 --> 0:16:59.240 couple of weeks. 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:02.320 Yeah, I mean when they needed it, they needed to 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:04.680 kind of put some pen to paper and be able 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:07.520 to see some things actually come to fruition on the field. 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:10.320 But you mentioned, you know this latter part, this part 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:12.879 of the season. Quite honestly, this this might be one 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:14.879 of your hardest parts, if not the hardest part of 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:16.920 your season as far as the opponents you're gonna face. 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:20.320 So getting this many by as you mentioned, to get 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:24.960 as healthy as possible, but also to going into this 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:27.800 time with some some things you can kind of say, Okay, 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:29.439 we did better. And that's kind of what I was 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:32.040 looking for in this game is I thought the I 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:34.679 thought the pass blocking was was better this game. I 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:38.399 thought the run blocking was better this game. Some of 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.960 the duo combo stuff they were doing was better this game. 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:41.960 We saw the. 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.840 Defense defend the run better, just certain things that you've 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:45.920 kind of been looking for. 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:47.680 I thought that there was some. 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.280 Tangible information that you could take from the game and say, 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.159 how do we apply this, How do we apply this 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:58.359 to the next game, How do we you know, translate this. 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:00.960 To the next game. So for me, I think that 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:01.760 they can walk. 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.399 Away saying like, Okay, there are some things we do 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:06.000 well and there's still some things we don't do well. 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:07.720 Sounds like that's how it was in the locker room. 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:10.400 That was kind of the sentiment that they weren't saying 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:12.960 hoorah whatever, but they were like, Okay, we we did 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:15.040 some things right, but we need to still do things better. 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:18.560 Yeah. And I would also say there's there's relief too. 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:23.040 This one. I was relief because I think everyone knew 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:27.000 it was. Yeah. And for I know that there are 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:31.480 some I won't say haters, but you know me, no 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:35.879 median fans that that you know, no they that qualify 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.639 wins in the NFL by you know that you have 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:41.800 to win with style points or oh it's just the Giants. 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:47.560 A win is a win. It's not win w P 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:52.480 you won pretty or WU one ugly, it doesn't matter. 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:55.240 A win is a win. And did you see the 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:59.760 previous two weeks wreck? Yeah, so so it was. I 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:01.800 think it was a very important win. 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:02.280 Yeah. 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:07.320 And to your point, Ayisha, so much improvement in areas, 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:09.800 particularly the run game. Now that just gives me a 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:10.480 run defense. 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:14.679 Yes, look what I did not want to endure this 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:18.680 week for the next ten days is dealing with talking 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:23.560 about a loss to the Giants, and not only that selfishly, 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:27.440 but going into that locker room and seeing the deflation 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:29.600 that that would have created, because let's call it what 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:32.080 it is, losing three weeks in a row would have 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:34.400 done something morally, I think, to this team. 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:35.640 And so for me. 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:39.600 I'm just glad that they have their starting line. 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:41.119 This is not where you want to. 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:43.560 Be because obviously, like you just said, there's a lot 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:47.160 that needs to continue to improve. But also there were 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:49.640 some younger guys that had some flashes we'll talk about 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:53.239 later that I was like, hell, yeah, Mazzie, Yes, Like 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:56.560 it finally was that confidence growing game that you needed, 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:59.240