WEBVTT - NFL Pro Week 6 Preview

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the NFL Pro Week 6 Preview Show. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>Brett Coleman, Trevor Sycamore here with you guys to preview

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<v Speaker 2>week six in the NFL, and we're getting right to it.

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<v Speaker 2>We got some big games that we're going to preview

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<v Speaker 2>here on this show, but we got a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>extra topics as well, which is why we're kind of

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<v Speaker 2>jumping into things right away. We're going to take a

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<v Speaker 2>look at the 2024 wide receiver class and talk about, regrade, redraft,

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<v Speaker 2>and just have a conversation about the wide receiver position

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<v Speaker 2>that was supposed to be one of the best we've

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<v Speaker 2>ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Not so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Why?

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to get to your fan questions as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Jam-packed show here, but Brett, let's start with a game preview.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about the Buffalo Bills and the Las Vegas

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<v Speaker 2>Raiders doing battle this weekend. Bills coming off of a

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<v Speaker 2>thrilling overtime win. Snap by Ferguson, hold by Doman, kick

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<v Speaker 2>on the way, and it is good! And the Raiders

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<v Speaker 2>coming off of a loss this week, a bad loss

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<v Speaker 2>to the New England Patriots.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not happy with what happened today, and we have

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<v Speaker 1>to go do something about it.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got to go fix it and move on. How

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<v Speaker 2>do you see this one shaping out, and where do

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<v Speaker 2>you want to start with the discussion in this game?

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't believe that that was Josh Allen's first overtime

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<v Speaker 1>win of his career. He was 0-7 before that.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, you texted the group that, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>that can't be true. And, you know, on the side,

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<v Speaker 2>I went to our NGS people, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>Brett's got to be lying about this, right?

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<v Speaker 1>And they're like, no, we were in the numbers. It's

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<v Speaker 1>his first overtime win. And it was still dicey. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>he very easily could have gone 0 for 8. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>the big difference in that game, ultimately, was his legs.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't his arm. And this is something that we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen throughout Josh Allen's career, his ability to just break

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<v Speaker 1>a game wide open when all else fails and there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing open down the field. If you lose track of

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<v Speaker 1>him in the pocket or if you miss a single

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<v Speaker 1>tackle of him, he can easily turn it into 10, 20,

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<v Speaker 1>30 yards. That's ultimately what happened with the Rams. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking at season-long stats so far, and we're only

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<v Speaker 1>five weeks in, He leads the league in scramble rushing

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<v Speaker 1>yards at 202. Most of them came in that game.

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<v Speaker 1>As well as rushing EPA on scrambles at plus 22.7,

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<v Speaker 1>which is absurd for only five weeks into the season.

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<v Speaker 1>He's ranked top six in scramble rush yards in every

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<v Speaker 1>single season since he's joined the league. He is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best scrambling quarterbacks ever. I would put him

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<v Speaker 1>up there with Steve Young, Michael Vick, all these great

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<v Speaker 1>rushing threats. He's up there with any of them. And

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<v Speaker 1>specifically the Raiders... Looking forward to this game, they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to deal with that in a better way

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<v Speaker 1>than they have so far this year. They've allowed 104

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<v Speaker 1>scramble rush yards so far this season. That is seventh

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<v Speaker 1>most in the NFL. 9.5 yards per carry on scrambles,

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<v Speaker 1>also seventh most in the NFL. And while it's only

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<v Speaker 1>been 11 scrambles season long, Josh Allen could very easily

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<v Speaker 1>do it five or six times more. Hell, he did

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<v Speaker 1>it nine times against the Rams in five quarters. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that they're going to have to do better on.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to show you specifically the mistakes the

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<v Speaker 1>Rams made against Allen, which allowed him to scramble so

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<v Speaker 1>much in the first place, as well as how some

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<v Speaker 1>better defenses in the past have kept that in check.

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<v Speaker 2>And Brett, this matchup against the Raiders is interesting because

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<v Speaker 2>you talk about, okay, how do you handle quarterbacks that

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<v Speaker 2>have that option to make plays with their legs and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of times it's all right well does this

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<v Speaker 2>go into how much we feel like we can call

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<v Speaker 2>man coverage because man coverage especially if you're playing you

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<v Speaker 2>know press man coverage which we saw the Raiders do

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of last week your backs to the ball

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<v Speaker 2>and anytime you got a lot of defenders with their

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<v Speaker 2>backs to the ball because you've got vertical routes going

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<v Speaker 2>downfield you're playing in man coverage well then Josh Allen

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<v Speaker 2>just goes okay I got one guy maybe to beat

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<v Speaker 2>and then I'm getting you know 10-15 yards or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>even more than that that's when it's advantageous for those

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<v Speaker 2>really athletic quarterbacks. And so we talked in the reaction

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<v Speaker 2>show earlier this week about how the Raiders game plan, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of perfect for Drake May to take advantage

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<v Speaker 2>of it. And I kind of think that they have

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<v Speaker 2>to pivot against Josh Allen because Josh Allen presents a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the same issues for them. So I'm very

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<v Speaker 2>interested to see how the Raiders are going to change

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<v Speaker 2>up their defense this week as opposed to last week

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<v Speaker 2>because Drake May killed him in that area. But I

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<v Speaker 2>do kind of want to touch on Ashen Jenty because

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<v Speaker 2>he is absolutely just not as efficient or explosive as

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<v Speaker 2>he was last year. Now, he did suffer the ankle

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<v Speaker 2>sprain earlier this year in training camp, and Kubiak after

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<v Speaker 2>the game was kind of saying, yeah, he's gutting it out.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't straight up say like, yeah, he's still playing

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<v Speaker 2>super hurt, but he was saying that he was gutting

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<v Speaker 2>it out. He was toughing it out to be out there.

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<v Speaker 2>But I have kind of noticed, you see the missed

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<v Speaker 2>tackle rate number is almost down a full 10% for

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<v Speaker 2>him this year. The yards per carry average is also

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<v Speaker 2>down for him. It's not all of his fault. There's

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<v Speaker 2>some offensive line issues as well. The yards before contact

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<v Speaker 2>average are also down. So I went back and I

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<v Speaker 2>looked at last game against the Patriots and I did

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<v Speaker 2>find some hints to.

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<v Speaker 1>Say maybe he is a little bit more hurt than

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<v Speaker 1>we thought. So taking that into account, right? Jenty isn't

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<v Speaker 1>entirely the Boise State version of Gentee that we know

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<v Speaker 1>and love, or even last year's version of Gentee that

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<v Speaker 1>was really just fighting through everything at the same time

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<v Speaker 1>because their offensive line was so bad and it felt

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<v Speaker 1>like Ashton Gentee versus the world, which it kind of was.

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<v Speaker 1>If he's not 100%, it certainly does seem like this

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<v Speaker 1>whole offense is just Brock, save us.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's worked.

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<v Speaker 3>It's caught!

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<v Speaker 1>Remarkable! Bowers has the touchdown! Like that has worked. He's

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<v Speaker 1>the only player to rank in the top five in

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<v Speaker 1>yards per route run from the slot and out wide,

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<v Speaker 1>which he's not really a tight end. If we're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at how a traditional tight end is used, like he's

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<v Speaker 1>basically a receiver, but he is arguably the most effective

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<v Speaker 1>receiver in the league so far this year. 3.2 yards

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<v Speaker 1>per route run from the slot, which is fifth 3.9

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<v Speaker 1>yards per route run out wide. That's four. That's basically

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<v Speaker 1>JSN numbers. He's just been absolutely absurd. And he has

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<v Speaker 1>been able to carry the load for this Raiders passing

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<v Speaker 1>game so far. The thing that I'm wondering is, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if the Bills just dedicate a bracket to him, and

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<v Speaker 1>if we're not as worried about Jenty as maybe we

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<v Speaker 1>would have been in years past, just because he's clearly

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<v Speaker 1>not moving the same as of right now, What are

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<v Speaker 1>the other options the Raiders have to keep pace with

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen? Because we know they're going to have to

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<v Speaker 1>keep pace with Josh Allen. Do they have any other

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<v Speaker 1>club in the bag? That's what worries me the most

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<v Speaker 1>about this team.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioning Brock Bauer sort of as a tight end

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<v Speaker 2>by position on the depth chart only, that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>brought up an interesting conversation when we were talking about

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<v Speaker 2>what we And it hasn't exactly panned out that way.

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<v Speaker 2>And Bowers, who's played 41.6% of his snaps from the slot, 39%

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<v Speaker 2>of his snaps out wide as a wide receiver, and

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<v Speaker 2>just 16.9% of his snaps aligned as like his true

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<v Speaker 2>tight end. He really might get paid like a wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 2>And Brett, when you look at this wide receiver class,

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<v Speaker 2>he might get paid the most out of all of

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<v Speaker 2>those wide receivers.

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<v Speaker 1>Marvin Harrison Jr.

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<v Speaker 2>Was in the news for the wrong reasons because the

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<v Speaker 2>team that drafted him gave up on him already and

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<v Speaker 2>traded him. Malik Neighbors has had the injury. Roma Dunze

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<v Speaker 2>has been disappointing for what we thought of him pre-draft

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<v Speaker 2>and where he was drafted. And that you just go

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<v Speaker 2>down the list. That 2024 wide receiver class, again, we

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<v Speaker 2>thought was going to be phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet it's been disappointing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that I have to use that word here

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<v Speaker 2>with this class.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell, I think I will actually go down the list.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is in no particular order. These are just

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<v Speaker 1>all the highly drafted receivers from that class. Xavier Worthy

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<v Speaker 1>has negative 382 receiving yards over expected since the start

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<v Speaker 1>of 2024. Fewest in the NFL. Roma Dunzey has the

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<v Speaker 1>second fewest, negative 315. So that's not good company to keep.

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<v Speaker 2>A.D.

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<v Speaker 1>Mitchell has the third fewest at negative 277. He also

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<v Speaker 1>has the fourth fewest receiving EPA at negative 24.6. Jalen

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<v Speaker 1>Polk has the sixth fewest receiving EPA. Not in the

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<v Speaker 1>league anymore, by the way. Marvin Harrison Jr., already been traded.

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<v Speaker 1>He's only the third top five pick to be traded

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<v Speaker 1>within his first three years with his team in the

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<v Speaker 1>last 17 years, so 10%. That's a very rare thing

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. And then specifically with Leggett, Polk, A.D. Mitchell, Odunze,

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<v Speaker 1>and Pearsall, their teams, if you're looking at on-off splits,

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<v Speaker 1>get more EPA per play with them off the field

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<v Speaker 1>than on so far. So it just hasn't really worked out.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Malik's been great when he's been healthy, but

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<v Speaker 1>there was that major injury. McConkie, again, he's been great

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<v Speaker 1>when he's been healthy, but it feels like he's just

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<v Speaker 1>perpetually banged up. So it's just... That draft class to

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<v Speaker 1>me is the billboard for why receiver is not exactly

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<v Speaker 1>a slam dunk to take in the first round. Historically speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>first round receivers, like their bust rate is very high

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<v Speaker 1>compared to say an interior offensive lineman or even a

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<v Speaker 1>running back. Like it's higher hit rates for those position

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<v Speaker 1>groups than receiver. And yet teams still feel like they're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of forced into taking them early because you typically

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<v Speaker 1>have to have three receivers on the field. And if

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<v Speaker 1>one gets injured, your fourth guy has to be good too.

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<v Speaker 1>And if two get injured, your fifth guy has to

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<v Speaker 1>be good. So it's a position that you need a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of quality at. And if you're looking at cap

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<v Speaker 1>percentages and how the market has grown, the receiver market

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<v Speaker 1>has exploded so much that you feel like you have

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<v Speaker 1>to get these rookie deals with five years of contract

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<v Speaker 1>control in the first round just to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>make your team or even just your offense affordable.

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<v Speaker 2>And I found this tweet from Dan Griff's where if

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<v Speaker 2>you look... at the top 10 highest paid guys at

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<v Speaker 2>the position the growth of that top 10 average for

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<v Speaker 2>wide receiver is second only to quarterbacks so this position

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<v Speaker 2>is not only getting paid more it's growing more at

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<v Speaker 2>a at a higher rate than any other position we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking offensive tackles edge rushers these guys that you think

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<v Speaker 2>just get crazy money so are wide receivers now so

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<v Speaker 2>now like you just said not only are you having

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<v Speaker 2>to pay maybe your wide receiver one, if he's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best in the NFL, truly top money outside

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<v Speaker 2>of the quarterback position, you also have to fill these

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<v Speaker 2>other positions. You also want good wide receivers at these

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<v Speaker 2>other positions. And so it just, it is fascinating how

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<v Speaker 2>we get a draft like 2024 that was as disappointing

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<v Speaker 2>as it could have been relative to the expectations. And

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<v Speaker 2>yet teams are still going to draft wide receiver. Because

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<v Speaker 2>I think for the longest time, we've always just thought

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<v Speaker 2>of wide receiver as a true talent need and want

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<v Speaker 2>in the draft. You want to have better pass catchers.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to help out your quarterback. You want to

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<v Speaker 2>score more points. But it is much more of a

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<v Speaker 2>cap strategy selection as well than I think it's given

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<v Speaker 2>credit for. So even with some of these disappointing selections,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we're going to see teams slow down

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<v Speaker 2>on wanting to get these top wide receivers anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 1>A while back, I actually did pull a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>data for what like the highest paid receiving tandems ever

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<v Speaker 1>were going back about 20 years in terms of their

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<v Speaker 1>individual cap percentages. I was looking at like Reggie, ironically,

0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:31.380
<v Speaker 1>Marvin Harrison Sr. You know, you're looking at that Anquan Bolden,

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<v Speaker 1>Larry Fitzgerald combo, you know, all of these great receiving

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<v Speaker 1>tandems where two guys are getting a thousand yards. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>none of them were paid a total percentage combined anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>near what Jamar and T Higgins are getting, or even

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<v Speaker 1>what like Tyreek and Waddle were getting in Miami. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a very new phenomenon across the NFL. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>entirely sure if it works, right? Investing that much receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see what the Cowboys do with George Pickens. They

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<v Speaker 1>could be another team that does it pretty soon here.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not entirely sure if it works, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do know that teams feel like they have to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>which in itself is an indicator of where front offices

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<v Speaker 1>are going these days. They are prioritizing receiver. They're drafting them.

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<v Speaker 1>If they don't work, they're paying guys to come in

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<v Speaker 1>in other ways. Like they're throwing so much capital money-wise

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<v Speaker 1>and picks-wise into this position group. It's kind of hard

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<v Speaker 1>to ignore. Mike Evans is an unstoppable machine.

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<v Speaker 2>When you look at the wide receiver position, Total cap

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<v Speaker 2>percentages here.

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<v Speaker 1>In 2024, it was 8.9%. And wide receivers gained 44%

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<v Speaker 1>of the total yards for offenses. In 2025, it was 8.7%.

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<v Speaker 2>So right around the same, a little bit less.

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<v Speaker 1>And total yards was 43%.

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<v Speaker 2>But then in 2026... Now it's all the way up

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<v Speaker 2>to 9.4% in the percentage of total yards. It's more

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<v Speaker 2>of a passing league right now, and so we're looking

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<v Speaker 2>at 45%. So the percentages of total yards that the

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<v Speaker 2>wide receiver position helps you gain has been relatively the same,

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<v Speaker 2>and yet you're paying more for it, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that it is going in that direction, which we bring

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<v Speaker 2>it all back to Brock Bowers, how he sort of

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<v Speaker 2>started this transition into this topic. You look at Bowers

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<v Speaker 2>in that 2024 draft class. He's going to have the

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<v Speaker 2>highest contract, especially for exactly where it's going. And especially

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<v Speaker 2>if he's able to stack on the fact that he goes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm better at wide receiver than all of these other guys.

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<v Speaker 2>And also I happen to be listed as a tight end.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that Brock Bauer is going to have a

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<v Speaker 2>strong case given where the cap is going and how

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<v Speaker 2>he is utilized to have a pretty strong second contract.

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<v Speaker 1>There for him. I mean, this team paid $ 27 million

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<v Speaker 1>a year for a center. What do you think they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to give Brock Bowers? Cousins!

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<v Speaker 3>Fires!

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<v Speaker 1>Bowers! Wrestled in! Touchdown Raiders! All right, a little break

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<v Speaker 1>in the action for a fun segment here.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to bring back Blind Resume. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>have some categories of a single team and then a

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<v Speaker 2>multiple choice question for Brett to answer. And he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to have one for me as well. Brett, your Blind

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<v Speaker 2>Resume team here.

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<v Speaker 1>They are 4th. In total, EPA.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifth in success rate. And first in rush yards over expected.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it the Baltimore Ravens, the Kansas City Chiefs, or

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<v Speaker 2>the Atlanta Falcons?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, man. That's bait. That's 100% bait. Oh, Callie's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to screw with me. So the rushing yards over expected, right?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing that's really screwing with me here. Because

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<v Speaker 1>Kenneth Walker gets a lot of rushing yards over expected

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<v Speaker 1>because he's breaking tackles. And same with Bijan. Wow, man.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go Kansas City. That seems more correct, which means

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<v Speaker 1>I'm probably wrong. Final answer? Final answer. It is, in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>the Kansas City Chiefs. Finally. Oh, my God. You nailed it.

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<v Speaker 1>Good job. Good job, my friend. That was close. You're right.

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<v Speaker 1>The rushing yards over-expected.

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<v Speaker 2>It could have been either of those teams, but the

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<v Speaker 2>giveaway should have been the fact that Atlanta doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>that consistent of an offense to be fourth in total EPA,

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<v Speaker 2>fifth in total success rate overall. The Bichon factor has

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<v Speaker 2>definitely been there for them, but I don't think that

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<v Speaker 2>they have that level of consistency to them, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper Rush, I think, immediately disqualifies you from any high-ranking game.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of what I was thinking, yeah. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>your blind resume. This team is 6th in offensive success rate,

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<v Speaker 1>4th in third-down conversions, 1st in scoring drive rate. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the most efficient scoring offense. scoring drive rate. What are

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<v Speaker 1>the three teams? Who do I have to guess? Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I probably should have given you that. Uh, 49ers, 49ers, Cowboys, Rams.

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<v Speaker 1>Before you gave me the teams, I was immediately thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about the 49ers.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where my mind would have gone.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Um, Cowboys have.

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<v Speaker 2>Scored a lot. We talked about this stat like two

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<v Speaker 2>weeks ago for them. And then what was the last team?

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<v Speaker 2>It was the, It was the Cowboys and Niners.

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<v Speaker 1>Rams.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's the Rams. They've missed too many

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<v Speaker 2>field goals. They've had too many turnovers.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's the Rams. While you think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, for those of you that are at home,

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<v Speaker 1>go look at the play-by-play of the Monday night game, Bills-Rams,

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<v Speaker 1>because a whole lot didn't happen for a lot of

0:16:46.390 --> 0:16:48.070
<v Speaker 1>that game because there were so many penalties. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like 24 penalties. You get to the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>third quarter. And it's Bills touchdown, Rams touchdown, Bills touchdown,

0:16:53.330 --> 0:16:57.070
<v Speaker 1>Rams touchdown, Bills touchdown, Rams touchdown. They're just massively inflating

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<v Speaker 1>their scoring drive rates from about a 17-minute period of

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<v Speaker 1>game clock.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you not entertained? It's punishing anybody who wants to

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<v Speaker 2>leave the games early.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what that is.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go with the Dallas Cowboys. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to guess the Dallas Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>We are two for two. Let's go, baby. Got her.

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<v Speaker 2>You love to see that kind of top-tier ball knowledge.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, next game on the docket, Cowboys-Packers. This one's

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating to me, because they just brought in Mike Pettin

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<v Speaker 1>this week, and they made it known that they brought

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<v Speaker 1>in Mike Pettin. This was not an under-the-radar hiring. This was,

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<v Speaker 1>we are bringing in Mike to help fix us. Not

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<v Speaker 1>that I think Christian Parker is getting replaced. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think Mike Pettin is taking over or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 1>but they... clearly identified that they needed help. They needed

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<v Speaker 1>to bring in an expert that could help this defense

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<v Speaker 1>not be the worst in the league, to put it

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<v Speaker 1>diplomatically speaking. Now, Who is Mike Pettin? He is a

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<v Speaker 1>Rex Ryan disciple going back to the mid 2000s Ravens days.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're looking at that ultra aggressive defense with like

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<v Speaker 1>Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Haloti Nada, like all of these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Pettin was there with him. He was the defensive

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator under Rex in New York back in like the

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<v Speaker 1>prime Revis era. Very, very aggressive defensive play caller known

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<v Speaker 1>for putting a lot of bodies on the line of scrimmage.

0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:24.920
<v Speaker 1>He and I think Mike Zimmer were probably the two

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<v Speaker 1>guys that were most known for mug looks. Putting linebackers

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<v Speaker 1>up in the line of scrimmage, in the A-gap, in

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<v Speaker 1>the B-gap, and trying to make offenses really operate on

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<v Speaker 1>their back foot. That's what he's most known for. It

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<v Speaker 1>kind of feels like the Cowboys want to do that

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<v Speaker 1>more because the more Fangio-ish style, which I wouldn't say

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<v Speaker 1>is passive. I would say when you have the talent

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<v Speaker 1>to do that style, it's very Boa constrictory, whereas Petten

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<v Speaker 1>is more like a Cobra, like he's going to strike

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<v Speaker 1>you and kill you quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>I think anything compared to like what Petten, who was

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<v Speaker 2>on the Viking staff over the last couple of years,

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<v Speaker 2>does with Flores, I think anything compared to that would

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<v Speaker 2>be passive. So you're not, I don't think you're ruffling

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<v Speaker 2>any feathers saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>But it certainly feels like they recognize the more conservative

0:19:19.630 --> 0:19:23.070
<v Speaker 1>boa constrictor style is not going well. So they want

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<v Speaker 1>to switch things up.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. And Petten's background, and I think that everything that

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<v Speaker 2>he could potentially bring to the table here for the

0:19:28.890 --> 0:19:32.290
<v Speaker 2>Cowboys does make this matchup against the Packers very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>So Pettin was actually defensive coordinator for the Green Bay

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<v Speaker 2>Packers from 2018 to 2020. Now, Jordan Love got drafted

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<v Speaker 2>in 2020, so Love was there in Pettin's final season.

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<v Speaker 2>But as you guys know, Love didn't start until 2023

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<v Speaker 2>because Aaron Rodgers was still there. So yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>like he was around him and everything, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really think the impact was that big of a takeaway

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<v Speaker 2>going all the way back to when they were sort

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<v Speaker 2>of in the same building instead what I think is

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more valuable here is that Pettin was

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<v Speaker 2>an assistant head coach slash became also the outside linebackers

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<v Speaker 2>coach for the Minnesota Vikings it was from 2022 to

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<v Speaker 2>2025 but specifically this matters if we take it from

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<v Speaker 2>2023 to 2025 because those are the years when Jordan

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<v Speaker 2>Love became the starter for the Green Bay Packers so

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<v Speaker 2>we do have a handful of games that yes it's

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<v Speaker 2>Flores's defense but Mike Pettin is still there I think

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<v Speaker 2>the influence is the same he was a position coach

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<v Speaker 2>he was probably consulted on a lot of this stuff

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that his ultra-aggressive style, like you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>is very in line with what Flores has wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>do and has done with the Minnesota Vikings.

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<v Speaker 1>Love versus Flores.

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<v Speaker 2>Since 2023, 7.2 yards per attempt, 60.6 completion percentage, negative

0:20:40.210 --> 0:20:43.670
<v Speaker 2>3.9 completion percentage over expected, and a negative EPA per dropback.

0:20:43.930 --> 0:20:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Love versus everyone else since 2023, 7.6 yards per attempt,

0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:53.159
<v Speaker 2>64.6 completion percentage, a positive completion percentage over expected, and

0:20:53.180 --> 0:20:56.520
<v Speaker 2>a positive EPA per dropback. So, Brian Flores has been

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<v Speaker 2>one of the best defense coordinators of the league over

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<v Speaker 2>the last couple of years. That is true against Jordan Love. Specifically, though, Vikings,

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<v Speaker 2>in double-mugged looks from 2023 to 2025, that's sample size.

0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:08.220
<v Speaker 2>They had double-mugged looks, so linebackers walked up to the

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<v Speaker 2>line of scrimmage on 12.7% of their plays, almost double

0:21:11.820 --> 0:21:15.000
<v Speaker 2>more than any other team. And then specifically on third

0:21:15.100 --> 0:21:19.980
<v Speaker 2>down in that time frame, 25.4% of their plays have

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<v Speaker 2>had a double-mugged look on third down. That is, once again,

0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:23.060
<v Speaker 2>first innings.

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<v Speaker 1>In the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>They did that more against the Packers and Jordan Love

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<v Speaker 2>than all the others, 28.8% versus the Packers versus 24.9%

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<v Speaker 2>against all other teams. Now, to me, the transition here

0:21:35.609 --> 0:21:37.490
<v Speaker 2>is you look at what Jordan Love did really well

0:21:37.530 --> 0:21:39.270
<v Speaker 2>last week. He was throwing the ball deep. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>how does this all factor into limiting what Jordan Love

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<v Speaker 2>can do as a deep ball passer? Against the Vikings,

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to attacking deep, Love versus Flores, 13.6%

0:21:49.210 --> 0:21:52.290
<v Speaker 2>deep rate percentage, but a 33.3% success rate.

0:21:52.470 --> 0:21:52.940
<v Speaker 1>Love vs.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone Else, 13.1% deep rate, so basically the same. He's

0:21:56.320 --> 0:21:59.659
<v Speaker 2>just trying to do this every game. but a 38.6%

0:21:59.660 --> 0:22:01.680
<v Speaker 2>success rate. So a little bit less of a completion

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<v Speaker 2>percentage and success rate overall for Love versus Flores attacking

0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:08.240
<v Speaker 2>deep versus all the other coordinators. Love was great on

0:22:08.260 --> 0:22:11.230
<v Speaker 2>the blitz last week, nine for 12, 176 yards and

0:22:11.250 --> 0:22:15.630
<v Speaker 2>a touchdown. But again, when you look at the Vikings specifically,

0:22:15.770 --> 0:22:18.429
<v Speaker 2>when Mike Pettin was there, Love had a game where

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<v Speaker 2>he threw three interceptions in 2024 against the Viking. Two

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<v Speaker 2>of those interceptions were, guess what? Double mugged looks and

0:22:24.740 --> 0:22:27.060
<v Speaker 2>another throw that was incomplete that could have been intercepted

0:22:27.390 --> 0:22:30.250
<v Speaker 2>came from a double mug pressure as well. Jordan Love

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<v Speaker 2>has only thrown three interceptions in a single game twice

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<v Speaker 2>in his career. One of them, you guessed it, versus

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<v Speaker 2>the Vikings when Mike Pettin was there. That's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of information, a lot of things to throw at you

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<v Speaker 2>guys to basically just say the Cowboys want to be

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<v Speaker 2>more aggressive.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if anything, because you're not going to change

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<v Speaker 1>the system overnight, I think if anything, Pettin was brought

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<v Speaker 1>in this week to be an expert on on how

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<v Speaker 1>to attack Matt LaFleur's protections. Because he knows this protection

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<v Speaker 1>scheme very well. He knows everything the Packers like to do.

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<v Speaker 1>He's very well attuned to how they like to keep

0:23:00.619 --> 0:23:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Love clean. And they're doing it with a, on paper,

0:23:04.619 --> 0:23:07.060
<v Speaker 1>much worse offensive line this year than they have in

0:23:07.100 --> 0:23:09.840
<v Speaker 1>years past. So if anybody can kind of be that

0:23:09.980 --> 0:23:12.940
<v Speaker 1>last second ringer that comes in and does an install

0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:16.340
<v Speaker 1>of like, hey, here's what Jordan Love likes on certain

0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:18.960
<v Speaker 1>insert distance and in certain areas of the field. Here's

0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:21.520
<v Speaker 1>how we can attack it, right? Here's who their weak

0:23:21.580 --> 0:23:23.680
<v Speaker 1>link is. What's the best way to isolate that weak link?

0:23:23.700 --> 0:23:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Whether it's a running back, a tight end, a backup guard, whatever.

0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:30.859
<v Speaker 1>Petten is very good at just finding the thing that

0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:34.350
<v Speaker 1>you do the worst and pressing that button over and

0:23:34.380 --> 0:23:36.159
<v Speaker 1>over again. I feel like that's what he's going to

0:23:36.180 --> 0:23:44.530
<v Speaker 1>do for Dallas. All right, next game on the docket, Texans-Jags.

0:23:48.570 --> 0:23:50.610
<v Speaker 1>Duval County's been very upset with us. We haven't talked

0:23:50.650 --> 0:23:55.149
<v Speaker 1>about the Jags nearly enough this season. It's kind of

0:23:55.250 --> 0:23:59.540
<v Speaker 1>early for the whole must-win game thing, but this certainly

0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:00.630
<v Speaker 1>feels like a must-win game.

0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:04.459
<v Speaker 2>It does for the Texans specifically because you beat the

0:24:04.540 --> 0:24:09.719
<v Speaker 2>Titans last week. You go to 1-4, but you are

0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:13.140
<v Speaker 2>in a situation where if you look at the next-gen stats,

0:24:13.859 --> 0:24:16.960
<v Speaker 2>playoff probability that we have, if they win this game

0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:20.880
<v Speaker 2>against Jacksonville, they have a 34% chance to make the playoffs.

0:24:20.940 --> 0:24:22.920
<v Speaker 2>Right now it's at 23%. So if you beat the Jags,

0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:25.600
<v Speaker 2>that jumps up 11%. Now, obviously this could change a

0:24:25.619 --> 0:24:27.480
<v Speaker 2>little bit depending on what happens around the league, but

0:24:27.740 --> 0:24:29.520
<v Speaker 2>that's what we have right now. If they lose this game,

0:24:29.820 --> 0:24:32.020
<v Speaker 2>it goes all the way down to 14%. And this

0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:34.639
<v Speaker 2>game matters a lot, not just in the win-loss column,

0:24:34.660 --> 0:24:37.030
<v Speaker 2>but also the fact that if the Texans lose this game,

0:24:37.070 --> 0:24:40.129
<v Speaker 2>they drop to 1-5. And Jacksonville is then at the

0:24:40.170 --> 0:24:42.689
<v Speaker 2>top of the division at 5-1. If you're the Texans,

0:24:42.730 --> 0:24:44.889
<v Speaker 2>you can kiss winning this division goodbye. Like you are

0:24:44.930 --> 0:24:48.560
<v Speaker 2>just praying, PRAYING, for a wild card at that point.

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:51.020
<v Speaker 2>Now their next four games, they do have the Giants,

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:53.200
<v Speaker 2>the Chargers, the Browns, and the Colts. I think all

0:24:53.260 --> 0:24:56.960
<v Speaker 2>those games are winnable for them. But given that they

0:24:57.000 --> 0:25:00.060
<v Speaker 2>have dug themselves such a hole, you've got to win

0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:03.260
<v Speaker 2>some games that maybe on paper at the time you

0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:05.590
<v Speaker 2>weren't expected to win. And I think that it's tough

0:25:05.770 --> 0:25:07.880
<v Speaker 2>to look at what I think is a top three

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:10.250
<v Speaker 2>team in the NFL. And I would argue the number

0:25:10.369 --> 0:25:12.150
<v Speaker 2>one team in the NFL right now and say, there

0:25:12.190 --> 0:25:14.310
<v Speaker 2>it is. We'd like to get that win on the schedule.

0:25:14.350 --> 0:25:17.370
<v Speaker 2>But you're kind of, in this situation for a reason

0:25:17.390 --> 0:25:19.949
<v Speaker 2>so look we've talked plenty about the Texans right we've

0:25:19.990 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 2>talked about how their offensive line has still been up

0:25:22.100 --> 0:25:24.179
<v Speaker 2>and down their run game especially in the short yardage

0:25:24.220 --> 0:25:26.660
<v Speaker 2>has not been what it's needed to be the pass

0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:29.419
<v Speaker 2>rush especially with Will Anderson has been fantastic for them

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:31.280
<v Speaker 2>and that's interesting going up against the Jags who are

0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:33.460
<v Speaker 2>now starting Walker Little but you know Walker Little has

0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:36.300
<v Speaker 2>still started 39 games in his career so it's not

0:25:36.340 --> 0:25:40.150
<v Speaker 2>like he's experienced Yeah, he's never started before. Isn't Anton Harrison? No,

0:25:40.230 --> 0:25:42.730
<v Speaker 2>but I think that it's not like ultimate panic button.

0:25:42.990 --> 0:25:44.780
<v Speaker 2>The defense hasn't been what you've wanted it to be,

0:25:44.820 --> 0:25:46.480
<v Speaker 2>but you figured that's going to bounce back. But bounce

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:49.399
<v Speaker 2>back how much? Can you rattle a Jags team that

0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:52.760
<v Speaker 2>has been, for the most part, fantastic this season in

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:55.540
<v Speaker 2>so many different areas of the game? They've been very balanced.

0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:58.930
<v Speaker 2>They play extremely complementary football for offense, defense, run game,

0:25:58.950 --> 0:26:00.170
<v Speaker 2>pass game, special teams.

0:25:59.990 --> 0:26:00.650
<v Speaker 1>Involved as well.

0:26:00.950 --> 0:26:02.430
<v Speaker 2>It's why I would argue they're the best team in

0:26:02.470 --> 0:26:02.950
<v Speaker 2>the NFL.

0:26:02.990 --> 0:26:04.590
<v Speaker 1>And it's tough to.

0:26:05.330 --> 0:26:07.629
<v Speaker 2>Have the Texans staring down the barrel of this and

0:26:07.670 --> 0:26:09.890
<v Speaker 2>saying that this is a must-win game, but unfortunately, Brett,

0:26:10.010 --> 0:26:12.129
<v Speaker 2>I do think this is a must-win game for them.

0:26:12.150 --> 0:26:14.369
<v Speaker 4>Here's pressure, and here's Will Anderson Jr.

0:26:14.390 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 1>With the sack! On the Jags side of things, you know,

0:26:18.100 --> 0:26:19.900
<v Speaker 1>maybe while we haven't talked about the Jags as much

0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:23.120
<v Speaker 1>as Jags fans want us to, there are several things

0:26:23.140 --> 0:26:25.780
<v Speaker 1>that we praise them for so far this season. Game

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:29.490
<v Speaker 1>management hasn't necessarily been one of them. Liam Cohen, back-to-back weeks,

0:26:29.830 --> 0:26:33.689
<v Speaker 1>questionable at best game management. and specifically play calling in

0:26:33.750 --> 0:26:36.430
<v Speaker 1>key downs and distances. But everything else about this team

0:26:36.930 --> 0:26:39.930
<v Speaker 1>we have really liked. Trevor specifically has been on a

0:26:39.970 --> 0:26:42.970
<v Speaker 1>tear so far this year. He's been exceptional over the

0:26:42.990 --> 0:26:45.240
<v Speaker 1>middle of the field. He and Stroud both are in

0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:47.080
<v Speaker 1>the top five quarterbacks as far as middle of the

0:26:47.100 --> 0:26:50.159
<v Speaker 1>field target rate, and their offenses have both been awesome

0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:53.880
<v Speaker 1>because of that. If you're looking at Basial Tootin, he's flashed.

0:26:53.940 --> 0:26:56.710
<v Speaker 1>If you're looking at the pass rush, they've been consistently

0:26:56.750 --> 0:26:59.260
<v Speaker 1>good this year. Like there's so many things about this

0:26:59.300 --> 0:27:03.290
<v Speaker 1>Jags team individually that we have liked. And yet somehow

0:27:03.630 --> 0:27:06.770
<v Speaker 1>we haven't talked about Travis Hunter basically at all this season.

0:27:07.550 --> 0:27:09.860
<v Speaker 1>Is the trade still worth it if he doesn't play

0:27:09.890 --> 0:27:12.379
<v Speaker 1>receiver at all? Like if this is what he is,

0:27:12.460 --> 0:27:14.860
<v Speaker 1>if they get a top three corner in the league,

0:27:15.740 --> 0:27:19.810
<v Speaker 1>Is that still worth the trade? Rich, a blockbuster trade.

0:27:19.869 --> 0:27:23.470
<v Speaker 3>The Jacksonville Jaguars wanted to be bold, and they are

0:27:23.550 --> 0:27:26.190
<v Speaker 3>in fact bold. They have agreed to terms with the

0:27:26.230 --> 0:27:30.310
<v Speaker 3>Browns to trade from number five to number two with

0:27:30.350 --> 0:27:35.209
<v Speaker 3>the Browns receiving a second rounder, number 36 overall, 126

0:27:35.210 --> 0:27:38.330
<v Speaker 3>overall this year, and next year's first round pick.

0:27:38.390 --> 0:27:40.690
<v Speaker 2>If you're looking at it for just pick value, it's

0:27:40.780 --> 0:27:43.860
<v Speaker 2>hard to say that that would be however I think

0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:46.220
<v Speaker 2>that when you're evaluating trades you have to have the

0:27:46.260 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 2>context of who you're trading for and just everything that

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:52.700
<v Speaker 2>surrounds that team and for Travis Hunter specifically I loved

0:27:52.770 --> 0:27:54.730
<v Speaker 2>the move on draft day I love that they went

0:27:55.090 --> 0:27:56.830
<v Speaker 2>they got aggressive I love that they went and got

0:27:56.869 --> 0:27:59.629
<v Speaker 2>the unicorn player in this class The reason why I

0:27:59.670 --> 0:28:01.540
<v Speaker 2>loved it is not because I just thought that he

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:03.159
<v Speaker 2>could be a good corner, which by the way, I

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:05.139
<v Speaker 2>thought that he should be primarily a corner and then

0:28:05.180 --> 0:28:07.420
<v Speaker 2>Moonlight as a wide receiver, not the other way around.

0:28:07.460 --> 0:28:09.480
<v Speaker 2>So I love the way that they're deploying him so far.

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 2>If he does not play wide receiver at all, it's

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:15.060
<v Speaker 2>hard to say that they would take it back because

0:28:15.100 --> 0:28:18.679
<v Speaker 2>of the team building that they have done around everything since,

0:28:19.020 --> 0:28:20.719
<v Speaker 2>because the Jags have obviously become one of the best

0:28:20.770 --> 0:28:22.490
<v Speaker 2>teams in the NFL. And so you can kind of

0:28:22.530 --> 0:28:24.010
<v Speaker 2>look at it and say like, all right, did we

0:28:24.050 --> 0:28:25.970
<v Speaker 2>pay Maybe a little bit more than you would think

0:28:25.990 --> 0:28:28.750
<v Speaker 2>for a shutdown corner. Sure, but it made our team better.

0:28:28.810 --> 0:28:30.790
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's part of the conversation as well.

0:28:31.150 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 2>But I'm going to cheat a little bit here in

0:28:33.380 --> 0:28:36.639
<v Speaker 2>my answer because they are playing him a little bit

0:28:36.660 --> 0:28:39.060
<v Speaker 2>at wide receiver. And not only does he look confident

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:41.820
<v Speaker 2>at corner, he looks confident at wide receiver in those

0:28:41.900 --> 0:28:44.140
<v Speaker 2>opportunities where they're trying to give him the ball quick

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:47.500
<v Speaker 2>and get those yards after catch. So last year when

0:28:47.540 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 2>I saw the usage from him and obviously the injury

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:53.020
<v Speaker 2>didn't help, I was like, man, Did they pay too

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:55.940
<v Speaker 2>much for how they wanted to use him? This year,

0:28:56.820 --> 0:28:59.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm having to hold myself back from how excited I

0:28:59.620 --> 0:29:02.420
<v Speaker 2>am about the future of Travis Hunter because the confidence

0:29:02.460 --> 0:29:04.620
<v Speaker 2>level that he is playing with at corner right now

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:07.150
<v Speaker 2>is a leap from what it was the previous season.

0:29:07.230 --> 0:29:08.590
<v Speaker 2>I know he put on some good weight, put on

0:29:08.630 --> 0:29:11.250
<v Speaker 2>some good muscle. He looks even more explosive despite being

0:29:11.290 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 2>at a higher weight. They're getting him involved in the

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 2>passing game despite the fact that they don't have to

0:29:16.540 --> 0:29:19.540
<v Speaker 2>because they have tight ends they like. They have Parker Washington.

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 2>They have Jacoby Myers. And so I'll say that when

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:27.020
<v Speaker 2>you look at things just in a vacuum, that's a

0:29:27.180 --> 0:29:31.050
<v Speaker 2>lot of draft capital value to give up for even

0:29:31.110 --> 0:29:33.130
<v Speaker 2>just one of the best corners. It's a lot to

0:29:33.170 --> 0:29:35.670
<v Speaker 2>give up for just a corner. But when you bring

0:29:35.730 --> 0:29:37.850
<v Speaker 2>in full context of who it was and that it

0:29:37.890 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 2>was Travis Hunter and that he can all have that

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:42.620
<v Speaker 2>potential to play on the other side of the ball

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:44.790
<v Speaker 2>certainly for where we are right now and how he

0:29:44.850 --> 0:29:47.030
<v Speaker 2>looks yeah I tell you that the trade was worth

0:29:47.090 --> 0:29:50.210
<v Speaker 2>it the arrow is only looking very very high up

0:29:50.470 --> 0:29:53.620
<v Speaker 2>for Hunter and how they're using him Travis Hunter, his

0:29:53.740 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 2>first career interception, and boy, did he pick a perfect

0:29:58.100 --> 0:29:59.020
<v Speaker 2>moment for it.

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:02.220
<v Speaker 1>One last stat here for you. So the Jacksonville Jaguars

0:30:02.260 --> 0:30:06.620
<v Speaker 1>have not allowed a single opposing player to run for

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:09.340
<v Speaker 1>40-plus yards in a game against them so far this year.

0:30:09.700 --> 0:30:11.760
<v Speaker 1>You might think that's a death sentence for the Texans,

0:30:11.780 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 1>but joke's on you. The leading Texans rusher averages 30

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:18.970
<v Speaker 1>yards a game. You can't kill us, Trevor. We're already dead.

0:30:20.090 --> 0:30:28.110
<v Speaker 1>On the ground. Speaking of bad Texans run games, by

0:30:28.130 --> 0:30:32.230
<v Speaker 1>the way, last season, to start the 2025 season, the

0:30:32.290 --> 0:30:36.850
<v Speaker 1>Rams won, essentially, because of a Nate Landman punch-out on

0:30:36.890 --> 0:30:41.460
<v Speaker 1>Daria Ogunbowale. And Landman has kind of become known for this.

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 1>He is a master of the peanut punch. But he's

0:30:45.020 --> 0:30:46.580
<v Speaker 1>not the only one. There's a lot of players around

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 1>the league that have gotten really, really good at forcing fumbles.

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:54.540
<v Speaker 1>To the point where it is a noticeable uptick in

0:30:54.580 --> 0:30:57.500
<v Speaker 1>terms of how many fumbles there are league-wide. I don't

0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:00.180
<v Speaker 1>want to say it's that ball security is at its worst.

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:03.980
<v Speaker 1>I just think defenders have gotten a lot better at

0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 1>doing these hyper-targeted punches.

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:09.940
<v Speaker 2>52 fumbles. Most since week 1 of 2022 when there

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 2>was 56. And 26 fumbles lost the most since week

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 2>12 of 2020 when there was 28.

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:13.770
<v Speaker 1>That is.

0:31:20.490 --> 0:31:23.290
<v Speaker 2>Crazy and you're right i think that you know every

0:31:23.330 --> 0:31:25.130
<v Speaker 2>single time that we see it on a broadcast you

0:31:25.150 --> 0:31:26.090
<v Speaker 2>know everybody's always.

0:31:25.930 --> 0:31:27.570
<v Speaker 3>Like the peanut punch.

0:31:28.430 --> 0:31:31.610
<v Speaker 2>Man it really does feel that way it's not like

0:31:31.630 --> 0:31:35.670
<v Speaker 2>this cliche it's it's taught now like this is clearly

0:31:35.710 --> 0:31:39.430
<v Speaker 2>a technique thing and we've seen i mean the mark

0:31:39.530 --> 0:31:41.950
<v Speaker 2>andrews fumble is a great example where he's coming in

0:31:41.970 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 2>to make the tackle could tell he's not abandoning his

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:48.219
<v Speaker 2>form now sometimes the guys come in and they do

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:50.260
<v Speaker 2>totally abandon their form and they're just trying to punch

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:52.260
<v Speaker 2>the ball out but like that was an example of

0:31:52.660 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 2>of what you're talking about where I think that it's

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:59.770
<v Speaker 2>being taught more as an emphasis now of hey when

0:31:59.810 --> 0:32:02.030
<v Speaker 2>you come in to wrap up for a tackle you

0:32:02.070 --> 0:32:05.980
<v Speaker 2>know make sure that you are get into the hip

0:32:06.060 --> 0:32:07.740
<v Speaker 2>in the center of gravity of the player where you

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:09.719
<v Speaker 2>could bring them down. But as you are, and as

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 2>you are wrapping, get the fist around. Try to knock

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:16.820
<v Speaker 2>the ball out. And so it's like, yes, we want

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:18.300
<v Speaker 2>you to be fundamentally sound. We want you to make

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:22.150
<v Speaker 2>the tackle. But they're clearly teaching this in how they

0:32:22.350 --> 0:32:24.970
<v Speaker 2>are wrapping up ball carriers as well. I think you're

0:32:24.990 --> 0:32:28.870
<v Speaker 2>also seeing a ton of, hey, my teammates already kind

0:32:28.890 --> 0:32:31.290
<v Speaker 2>of starting to bring this player down. I'm just going

0:32:31.310 --> 0:32:34.620
<v Speaker 2>to go for the ball here. So I just, it's

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 2>a huge emphasis. And I think the reason why is

0:32:36.860 --> 0:32:40.370
<v Speaker 2>because in an age where offenses, it feels like can

0:32:40.380 --> 0:32:43.570
<v Speaker 2>get explosives all over the place. When you get those

0:32:43.650 --> 0:32:47.630
<v Speaker 2>extra possessions, they can mean everything. And that's why coaches

0:32:47.930 --> 0:32:51.330
<v Speaker 2>preach against forcing turnovers and limiting turnovers, depending on which

0:32:51.370 --> 0:32:52.330
<v Speaker 2>side of the ball that you're on.

0:32:52.370 --> 0:32:53.230
<v Speaker 1>But it very.

0:32:53.050 --> 0:32:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Clearly teams are more into this than they've ever been,

0:32:56.760 --> 0:32:58.520
<v Speaker 2>because this is a league trend that is only going

0:32:58.580 --> 0:33:00.140
<v Speaker 2>up with defenses, forcing these fumbles.

0:33:00.620 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:33:00.820 --> 0:33:03.020
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Fred Warner has three so far this year.

0:33:03.060 --> 0:33:06.540
<v Speaker 1>He's only, played in five games, right? Three forced fumbles

0:33:06.580 --> 0:33:08.840
<v Speaker 1>in five games is nuts. And there was actually a

0:33:09.980 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 1>moment in the Australia game where I think he was

0:33:13.460 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 1>looking at Dre Greenlaw and talking to him. And he said, hey,

0:33:16.060 --> 0:33:19.490
<v Speaker 1>hold him up. I can get one for us here. Like,

0:33:19.530 --> 0:33:22.090
<v Speaker 1>don't immediately bring him down. Hold him up. And he did.

0:33:22.130 --> 0:33:24.030
<v Speaker 1>And then Fred came in and punched out. Like, he

0:33:24.050 --> 0:33:28.170
<v Speaker 1>called his own shot. And so defenders are really approaching

0:33:28.210 --> 0:33:31.790
<v Speaker 1>forced fumbles as a team effort, right? Like, keep him up.

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:35.160
<v Speaker 1>so that we have an opportunity to come in here

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 1>and punch it out. And it has such a profound

0:33:38.380 --> 0:33:42.500
<v Speaker 1>impact on the opposing defense. If you're looking at the

0:33:42.580 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Chargers defense as an example, their EPA per play isn't horrible.

0:33:47.260 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Their down-to-down efficiency isn't horrible, but they've allowed, I guess,

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:54.700
<v Speaker 1>technically a whole lot of points this year because they

0:33:54.740 --> 0:33:59.470
<v Speaker 1>have 19 drives. that have started in their own territory

0:33:59.570 --> 0:34:02.450
<v Speaker 1>because of the Chargers offense, turning it over a lot

0:34:02.470 --> 0:34:03.870
<v Speaker 1>of those being fumbles.

0:34:04.250 --> 0:34:04.450
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:34:04.750 --> 0:34:04.930
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:34:04.950 --> 0:34:06.610
<v Speaker 1>Like they, they lost a couple of weeks ago because

0:34:06.630 --> 0:34:08.220
<v Speaker 1>of that. Cause of Amari and Hampton had it punched

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 1>out late. So it, it really helps your offense be better.

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 1>If you can give them that kind of field position

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 1>by just punching it out. And because it's not a

0:34:18.620 --> 0:34:21.130
<v Speaker 1>round ball, it can bounce all over the place and

0:34:21.150 --> 0:34:23.480
<v Speaker 1>you guys have a shot to recover it. It, If

0:34:23.540 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 1>you can do that once or twice in a game,

0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:28.160
<v Speaker 1>you recover one of them, you set yourself up for

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:33.270
<v Speaker 1>an easy score, that flips the entire game. It really does.

0:34:33.290 --> 0:34:36.210
<v Speaker 1>It makes any game winnable by pretty much any team

0:34:36.750 --> 0:34:38.830
<v Speaker 1>if you can win that turnover battle. It's not a

0:34:38.950 --> 0:34:41.169
<v Speaker 1>new thing, but it certainly feels like teams are doing

0:34:41.210 --> 0:34:41.969
<v Speaker 1>it a lot more now.

0:34:42.530 --> 0:34:45.129
<v Speaker 4>Back to the ground, back to Cook. And this time,

0:34:45.150 --> 0:34:49.029
<v Speaker 4>ball comes out! His second fumble of the night! Landman

0:34:49.110 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 4>forced it, and it's another fumble for James Cook.

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:55.200
<v Speaker 1>All right, last segment of the show. We got to

0:34:55.219 --> 0:34:56.320
<v Speaker 1>get the people involved, Brett.

0:34:56.460 --> 0:35:00.469
<v Speaker 2>Going to the fan Q &amp; A section here. First

0:35:00.510 --> 0:35:05.070
<v Speaker 2>question from Ward MVP Season. What's going on with the

0:35:05.110 --> 0:35:07.370
<v Speaker 2>Vikings offense? Is it on Kyler?

0:35:07.770 --> 0:35:08.669
<v Speaker 1>Is it KOC?

0:35:09.090 --> 0:35:12.390
<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, Vikings sitting here at 5-0. I don't want

0:35:12.430 --> 0:35:14.790
<v Speaker 2>to complain about being 5-0, but hey, I think that

0:35:14.830 --> 0:35:17.490
<v Speaker 2>people do look at the offense and go, man, this feels...

0:35:17.700 --> 0:35:20.370
<v Speaker 2>unstable it just doesn't feel as easy and if brian

0:35:20.390 --> 0:35:23.930
<v Speaker 2>flores wasn't on you know level 15 out of 10

0:35:23.930 --> 0:35:25.870
<v Speaker 2>maybe the record does look different for the vikings so

0:35:25.910 --> 0:35:28.110
<v Speaker 2>your thoughts on the vikings offense right now.

0:35:28.590 --> 0:35:31.270
<v Speaker 1>I mean the easy answer is it's just not an

0:35:31.330 --> 0:35:35.690
<v Speaker 1>explosive offense right they have an 11.1 explosive play rate

0:35:35.770 --> 0:35:39.330
<v Speaker 1>on offense that's passing and running that's bottom 10 in

0:35:39.370 --> 0:35:43.589
<v Speaker 1>the nfl just rushing in terms of explosive designed run

0:35:43.650 --> 0:35:48.529
<v Speaker 1>rate only 7.1 that's ninth lowest in the nfl even

0:35:48.570 --> 0:35:51.230
<v Speaker 1>though their average yards before contact per attempt is actually

0:35:51.450 --> 0:35:55.149
<v Speaker 1>pretty good, 10th most at 1.5. So the offensive line

0:35:55.210 --> 0:35:57.069
<v Speaker 1>has done a good job in terms of creating room

0:35:57.090 --> 0:35:58.549
<v Speaker 1>for the running backs. The running backs just aren't really

0:35:58.590 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 1>doing anything with that room. And then if you're looking

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:08.280
<v Speaker 1>at Kyler specifically, fairly average deep pass rate at 9.9%,

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 1>but a lot of explosives in today's NFL are created

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:12.980
<v Speaker 1>over the middle of the field. I know we're going

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:14.780
<v Speaker 1>to keep talking about it and beating that dead horse,

0:36:14.820 --> 0:36:19.070
<v Speaker 1>but it's true. And if you're looking at intermediate in breakers,

0:36:19.110 --> 0:36:21.279
<v Speaker 1>he only targets them 10% of the time. That's the

0:36:21.410 --> 0:36:24.379
<v Speaker 1>lowest rate in the entire league. And that's just where

0:36:24.540 --> 0:36:28.580
<v Speaker 1>all of these really explosive offenses get these chunks. You

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:30.080
<v Speaker 1>throw an in breaker and then you get a catch

0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:32.580
<v Speaker 1>and run, or you're just making life hell for these

0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:36.390
<v Speaker 1>hook droppers and you're getting 15, 20 yards at a time.

0:36:37.410 --> 0:36:38.950
<v Speaker 1>They just don't do that. So if you don't have

0:36:38.969 --> 0:36:41.569
<v Speaker 1>an explosive run game outside of, you know, the odd

0:36:41.630 --> 0:36:43.750
<v Speaker 1>Kyler scramble here and there, and you don't have an

0:36:43.770 --> 0:36:47.330
<v Speaker 1>explosive passing game, because the only real time you're going

0:36:47.370 --> 0:36:49.779
<v Speaker 1>down the field, it's like a one-on-one down the boundary,

0:36:50.060 --> 0:36:53.419
<v Speaker 1>which is low percentage throw to begin with, then you

0:36:53.460 --> 0:36:55.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of have to play offense the hard way and

0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 1>put together 10, 11 play drives. they're just not really

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:02.300
<v Speaker 1>good enough to do that without stalling out. It's a

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:05.660
<v Speaker 1>big reason why Will Riker, you know, kind of tongue

0:37:05.700 --> 0:37:09.430
<v Speaker 1>in cheek, but really was getting like Vikings MVP chance

0:37:09.969 --> 0:37:11.930
<v Speaker 1>because they keep getting to the red zone or just

0:37:11.969 --> 0:37:14.130
<v Speaker 1>outside the red zone and stalling out. And then he

0:37:14.170 --> 0:37:16.310
<v Speaker 1>has to come in and bang a field goal through.

0:37:16.330 --> 0:37:18.009
<v Speaker 1>I think he got like five in one game the

0:37:18.050 --> 0:37:22.009
<v Speaker 1>other week. So it's just not a sustainable offense, you know,

0:37:22.050 --> 0:37:26.360
<v Speaker 1>where you don't have explosives to get those chunks for you.

0:37:27.180 --> 0:37:30.360
<v Speaker 1>It's so much harder to put five good plays on

0:37:30.420 --> 0:37:32.839
<v Speaker 1>tape in a row compared to just one to get

0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:35.000
<v Speaker 1>the same amount of yardage. I would agree with you.

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:37.609
<v Speaker 2>I think that the lack of explosiveness in the run

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:41.010
<v Speaker 2>game is really affecting what they can do overall. Because

0:37:41.350 --> 0:37:43.989
<v Speaker 2>as much as, yes, you don't have to be a

0:37:44.030 --> 0:37:47.230
<v Speaker 2>successful run team to be effective at play action or

0:37:47.290 --> 0:37:49.170
<v Speaker 2>motion and things like that. You could still do those

0:37:49.210 --> 0:37:51.470
<v Speaker 2>things even if you don't have a great run game.

0:37:52.170 --> 0:37:55.049
<v Speaker 2>it certainly helps when you do, and you just get

0:37:55.150 --> 0:37:58.870
<v Speaker 2>more bite from linebackers, you get more attention from safeties,

0:37:59.130 --> 0:38:01.430
<v Speaker 2>the middle of the field opens up more, whether it's

0:38:01.469 --> 0:38:04.610
<v Speaker 2>a bootleg or just a straight drop play action, whatever

0:38:04.650 --> 0:38:06.750
<v Speaker 2>it is, that middle of the field opens up a

0:38:06.810 --> 0:38:09.259
<v Speaker 2>lot more, and those aim-breaking routes open up, I think,

0:38:09.300 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 2>a lot more when you do have a successful run game.

0:38:11.780 --> 0:38:14.540
<v Speaker 2>And of course, we've said this before, Kyler's not the

0:38:14.580 --> 0:38:16.660
<v Speaker 2>tallest quarterback in the league, and so you kind of

0:38:16.700 --> 0:38:18.759
<v Speaker 2>have to manipulate the offensive line a little bit at

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:21.420
<v Speaker 2>times in order for him to to want to attack

0:38:21.540 --> 0:38:23.580
<v Speaker 2>over the middle of the field with regularity. And so

0:38:23.980 --> 0:38:27.359
<v Speaker 2>I think the domino effect really just starts with they

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:29.799
<v Speaker 2>don't have that explosiveness in the run game. And if

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:31.259
<v Speaker 2>they had that a little bit more, I think that

0:38:31.300 --> 0:38:33.839
<v Speaker 2>things would look a little bit easier for them. And

0:38:34.180 --> 0:38:37.660
<v Speaker 2>to me, that's what's quote unquote wrong with the Vikings offense.

0:38:37.700 --> 0:38:39.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how much more explosive they're going to

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:42.460
<v Speaker 2>get in the ground game. But again, you know, if

0:38:42.500 --> 0:38:44.620
<v Speaker 2>the defense is playing the way that they are, I

0:38:44.660 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 2>think even the offense in its current form, especially from

0:38:47.219 --> 0:38:48.739
<v Speaker 2>what we saw last week, which was a really nice

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:50.799
<v Speaker 2>game from Kyler, is going to be enough for this

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:53.299
<v Speaker 2>team to make the postseason and feel pretty good about

0:38:53.340 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 2>themselves when they get there. Second question that we have

0:38:55.980 --> 0:38:58.160
<v Speaker 2>here for the Fan Q &amp; A, it's from NFLDuos

0:38:58.219 --> 0:39:01.469
<v Speaker 2>on Twitter. It said, is a healthy Panthers offense top

0:39:01.910 --> 0:39:04.710
<v Speaker 2>five in the NFL? So we could just look at

0:39:04.989 --> 0:39:08.690
<v Speaker 2>sort of what they are as an offense while playing

0:39:08.730 --> 0:39:11.069
<v Speaker 2>through some of these injuries. EPA per play, they have

0:39:11.090 --> 0:39:13.469
<v Speaker 2>the eighth most injuries. EPA per play in the NFL,

0:39:13.530 --> 0:39:15.620
<v Speaker 2>EPA per dropbacks, the fifth most, so there we go,

0:39:15.660 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 2>cracking the top five. Designed run EPA, 19th most, so

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:25.109
<v Speaker 2>have struggled on the ground, but scoring drive percentage, they

0:39:25.150 --> 0:39:28.310
<v Speaker 2>have the fifth highest in the NFL. So in terms

0:39:28.469 --> 0:39:31.759
<v Speaker 2>of the overall question, is a healthy Panthers offense top

0:39:31.780 --> 0:39:34.640
<v Speaker 2>five in the NFL? Well, they're the fifth highest in

0:39:34.700 --> 0:39:37.590
<v Speaker 2>scoring percentage, even with what they have been through. So

0:39:38.030 --> 0:39:40.730
<v Speaker 2>does that make the answer yes? Brett, what do you

0:39:40.750 --> 0:39:41.330
<v Speaker 2>think about this?

0:39:41.550 --> 0:39:44.009
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look no further than explosive play rate. Just

0:39:44.030 --> 0:39:46.069
<v Speaker 1>talk about it with Minnesota. They don't get a lot

0:39:46.090 --> 0:39:49.770
<v Speaker 1>of explosives. Carolina has the fourth highest explosive play rate

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:54.339
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, 15.7%. It's a huge, huge jump. And

0:39:54.380 --> 0:39:56.440
<v Speaker 1>they get it both on the ground and through the air.

0:39:56.780 --> 0:39:59.660
<v Speaker 1>It's a balanced offense, even though they're not fully healthy.

0:40:00.300 --> 0:40:03.230
<v Speaker 1>I think McMillan playing more in the slot has been

0:40:03.489 --> 0:40:07.650
<v Speaker 1>awesome for them because it lets him find space so

0:40:07.690 --> 0:40:10.610
<v Speaker 1>much easier when he has these two-way goes from the slot.

0:40:10.710 --> 0:40:12.930
<v Speaker 1>And that really, to me, was his superpower when he

0:40:12.950 --> 0:40:14.850
<v Speaker 1>was coming out of college, was just being a really

0:40:15.010 --> 0:40:18.930
<v Speaker 1>smart receiver, very silky smooth, find space, get yards after catch.

0:40:19.550 --> 0:40:23.450
<v Speaker 1>I know he was profiled as this Mike Evans 2.0.

0:40:23.450 --> 0:40:26.250
<v Speaker 1>And while, yeah, he's big, to me, he was really

0:40:26.310 --> 0:40:28.670
<v Speaker 1>more like an Eric Decker type than he was. And

0:40:28.690 --> 0:40:30.069
<v Speaker 1>I mean that as a compliment, by the way. Prime

0:40:30.090 --> 0:40:32.730
<v Speaker 1>Eric Decker was sick. But that, to me, was his

0:40:32.790 --> 0:40:35.210
<v Speaker 1>best usage of as a big slot. Well, they started

0:40:35.250 --> 0:40:38.340
<v Speaker 1>doing that this year. got great returns out of it

0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:41.080
<v Speaker 1>a couple weeks ago before their bye week. Ideally, they're

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:44.680
<v Speaker 1>healthier now coming off that bye going into week six.

0:40:45.340 --> 0:40:48.690
<v Speaker 1>This is as potent an offense I can remember in

0:40:48.750 --> 0:40:52.770
<v Speaker 1>Carolina since, God, do I want to invoke 2015 here?

0:40:53.230 --> 0:40:55.310
<v Speaker 1>Is this the best Panthers offense since then? I think

0:40:55.330 --> 0:40:57.200
<v Speaker 1>it might be. Yeah, it kind of feels like it.

0:40:57.360 --> 0:40:59.500
<v Speaker 2>So let's put each other on the spot then, okay?

0:41:00.219 --> 0:41:02.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to name a team, and you tell me

0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:04.280
<v Speaker 2>if you would have that offense.

0:41:05.550 --> 0:41:06.470
<v Speaker 1>above.

0:41:06.110 --> 0:41:08.380
<v Speaker 2>Carolina, if you would pick that offense over the Carolina Panthers.

0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Buffalo Bills.

0:41:09.540 --> 0:41:12.399
<v Speaker 2>They have the most points per game so far this year, 32.8.

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:16.879
<v Speaker 2>I'll say yes. The fumbles concern me, but I'll say yes.

0:41:18.140 --> 0:41:21.420
<v Speaker 1>What about the Niners? Even in their banged up state,

0:41:21.540 --> 0:41:24.240
<v Speaker 1>I would say yes, but boy, it's close. It's really close.

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:28.810
<v Speaker 1>I agree. I agree. Lions. Yeah, because somehow they're just

0:41:28.870 --> 0:41:32.989
<v Speaker 1>good at everything, even with their own personnel issues. Even

0:41:33.050 --> 0:41:37.890
<v Speaker 1>by recent history lion standards, they're amazing, so sure, yeah.

0:41:38.150 --> 0:41:40.250
<v Speaker 1>I agree, I agree. So we're at three now.

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:43.550
<v Speaker 2>This is now where I certainly think that Carolina's in

0:41:43.570 --> 0:41:46.080
<v Speaker 2>the conversation. Would you take Carolina or would you take

0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:47.839
<v Speaker 2>Kansas City? Ooh.

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:51.660
<v Speaker 1>That's close. I think I would take, it's very close.

0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I think I would take Carolina. I feel like they're

0:41:52.980 --> 0:41:56.480
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more versatile. It does feel like Kansas

0:41:56.500 --> 0:42:00.719
<v Speaker 1>City is kind of the Kenneth Walker show. Also, they're

0:42:00.760 --> 0:42:03.340
<v Speaker 1>banged up and are still that good. Give me Carolina,

0:42:03.380 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 1>but that is close.

0:42:04.500 --> 0:42:06.040
<v Speaker 2>I think that that one's close, but I think you

0:42:06.060 --> 0:42:08.100
<v Speaker 2>could put Carolina in there above the Chiefs.

0:42:08.620 --> 0:42:10.960
<v Speaker 1>What about the Cowboys? Shake the Cowboys or the Panthers?

0:42:12.219 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 2>I think the Cowboys at their best, I would take

0:42:14.100 --> 0:42:16.239
<v Speaker 2>over the Panthers, but the problem is they're five weeks

0:42:16.300 --> 0:42:19.140
<v Speaker 2>into the season. How many times have they played their best?

0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:25.070
<v Speaker 1>Not enough. Carolina's been more consistent. Carolina's been more consistent. Yeah,

0:42:25.190 --> 0:42:27.550
<v Speaker 1>give me that. Give me the higher baseline compared to

0:42:27.590 --> 0:42:29.219
<v Speaker 1>the higher ceiling. Okay, all right.

0:42:29.300 --> 0:42:33.460
<v Speaker 2>And then, I'll just go Bengals. Would you go Bengals

0:42:33.500 --> 0:42:34.980
<v Speaker 2>over the Panthers, or would you take the Panthers.

0:42:34.780 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Over the Bengals? I would go Panthers over Bengals. The

0:42:38.700 --> 0:42:41.040
<v Speaker 1>one that I would be interested in your answer on

0:42:41.100 --> 0:42:42.420
<v Speaker 1>is Chicago.

0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:46.370
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. When they're healthy. Yeah, there were three other teams

0:42:46.450 --> 0:42:48.450
<v Speaker 2>I was going to bring up. The Seahawks, the Ravens,

0:42:48.650 --> 0:42:52.670
<v Speaker 2>and then the Bears. Okay. When the Bears are healthy,

0:42:52.890 --> 0:42:57.350
<v Speaker 2>I'd take the Bears over the Panthers. I think that

0:42:57.510 --> 0:43:00.370
<v Speaker 2>they are absolutely in that top five category. I would

0:43:00.410 --> 0:43:05.560
<v Speaker 2>say the Bills, the Lions, the 49ers, and the Bears.

0:43:06.260 --> 0:43:08.759
<v Speaker 2>I would all take over the Panthers. But then I

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:12.380
<v Speaker 2>would have Carolina in that next tier, and you could

0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:14.379
<v Speaker 2>have an argument for them being at five or just

0:43:14.420 --> 0:43:17.779
<v Speaker 2>below five with the Chiefs, the Ravens, the Cowboys, and

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:20.500
<v Speaker 2>the Seahawks. I think those are the teams that are

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:21.339
<v Speaker 2>in that next year.

0:43:22.080 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 1>And what's interesting is Declan Doyle is so good at

0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:26.919
<v Speaker 1>his job that whether Lamar is out there or not,

0:43:26.980 --> 0:43:31.270
<v Speaker 1>the Ravens have the highest success rate out of any offense.

0:43:31.290 --> 0:43:33.670
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's hard to deny that too. But all

0:43:33.690 --> 0:43:36.069
<v Speaker 2>of that, I think, whether you have the Panthers right

0:43:36.090 --> 0:43:38.330
<v Speaker 2>there at five or within the top five, I think

0:43:38.350 --> 0:43:41.660
<v Speaker 2>the question is, And the conversation is a good one

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:44.540
<v Speaker 2>to have to respect what Carolina is putting out there.

0:43:44.580 --> 0:43:46.839
<v Speaker 2>This isn't just like kind of a fun story. This

0:43:46.860 --> 0:43:49.259
<v Speaker 2>has been an awesome offense to watch and one of

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:50.220
<v Speaker 2>the best in the NFL.

0:43:55.260 --> 0:43:58.140
<v Speaker 1>Game picks for week six. Let's go, baby.

0:43:58.160 --> 0:43:59.730
<v Speaker 2>If you're new around here, what we do is we

0:43:59.770 --> 0:44:02.670
<v Speaker 2>take 10 games we have in the upcoming NFL slate.

0:44:02.969 --> 0:44:04.670
<v Speaker 2>And not only do we pick the winner, but we

0:44:04.750 --> 0:44:08.719
<v Speaker 2>also rank them in terms of confidence. So If you

0:44:08.739 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 2>think that this team is absolutely going to win this game,

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:12.940
<v Speaker 2>you'll put it at the 10 confidence spot. And if

0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:15.230
<v Speaker 2>you're right, you get 10 points. Then 9, you get

0:44:15.230 --> 0:44:16.669
<v Speaker 2>9 points. 8, you get 8 points.

0:44:16.770 --> 0:44:18.870
<v Speaker 1>So on and so forth. It's a fun game.

0:44:19.110 --> 0:44:21.290
<v Speaker 2>We've been keeping track all season long, along with you

0:44:21.330 --> 0:44:23.009
<v Speaker 2>guys out there, which we'll get to some of the

0:44:23.050 --> 0:44:26.430
<v Speaker 2>shout-outs for how you guys did last week. Brett, really quickly,

0:44:26.489 --> 0:44:28.129
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to reveal our points yet because we'll

0:44:28.150 --> 0:44:30.440
<v Speaker 2>do that in a second before we tee up these games, but.

0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:31.830
<v Speaker 1>We implemented a.

0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:37.820
<v Speaker 2>You lose 10 points if your 10 confidence game does

0:44:37.900 --> 0:44:42.050
<v Speaker 2>not hit. And we implemented that, I will add, because

0:44:42.290 --> 0:44:45.350
<v Speaker 2>you missed it two weeks in a row before this.

0:44:45.630 --> 0:44:48.330
<v Speaker 2>And the people were like, Brett's got to pay. We

0:44:48.350 --> 0:44:51.279
<v Speaker 2>need punishment. So we're like, OK, OK, minus 10 if

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:53.600
<v Speaker 2>you miss your top 10 confidence game.

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:55.120
<v Speaker 1>And guess what happened?

0:44:56.260 --> 0:44:59.200
<v Speaker 2>I missed mine and you didn't miss yours. So I

0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:01.400
<v Speaker 2>have no idea what my final score is, but I

0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:03.899
<v Speaker 2>know that it's 10 points less than I would have.

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:05.839
<v Speaker 1>If we were doing this a week prior. I mean,

0:45:05.860 --> 0:45:10.500
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel great about it because the Jacksonville technically

0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:15.300
<v Speaker 1>win was my 10 spot game, which like, was it really?

0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:19.279
<v Speaker 1>So close. Nick Sirianni should stay in Philly forever, in

0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:22.140
<v Speaker 1>my opinion. Thank you for doing me a solid, Nick.

0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:24.620
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you. My question for you, Trev, because I

0:45:24.660 --> 0:45:26.900
<v Speaker 1>have your point total in front of me. Keep in mind,

0:45:26.940 --> 0:45:29.580
<v Speaker 1>you came into the week with a season total of 148,

0:45:29.580 --> 0:45:31.719
<v Speaker 1>so you're up one point on me.

0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:32.500
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:35.500
<v Speaker 1>Do you think you hit double digits?

0:45:40.780 --> 0:45:41.040
<v Speaker 4>No.

0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:47.430
<v Speaker 1>I don't. Good instinct. You got eight points. Oh, my gosh.

0:45:47.530 --> 0:45:51.950
<v Speaker 1>That's it? You got eight, buddy. Dude, you know what?

0:45:52.469 --> 0:45:55.400
<v Speaker 2>You know what? I told our producers before we started recording,

0:45:55.820 --> 0:46:00.680
<v Speaker 2>if my number doesn't start with a minus sign, you know,

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:04.100
<v Speaker 2>as long as it's not negative overall points, as long

0:46:04.140 --> 0:46:07.050
<v Speaker 2>as I get some positive points this week, I'm okay

0:46:07.090 --> 0:46:07.390
<v Speaker 2>with that.

0:46:07.410 --> 0:46:13.210
<v Speaker 1>But eight. So you got your three points. You got

0:46:13.250 --> 0:46:17.210
<v Speaker 1>your nine spot game correct, which was Jacksonville at nine.

0:46:17.410 --> 0:46:21.660
<v Speaker 1>And you got you got Baltimore over Atlanta. So you

0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:23.700
<v Speaker 1>got eight points for that. But you got minus 10

0:46:23.700 --> 0:46:25.739
<v Speaker 1>from your 10 spot game. And then the only other

0:46:25.820 --> 0:46:29.920
<v Speaker 1>game that you got correct was Pittsburgh over Indy at

0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:33.180
<v Speaker 1>your one spot, which ultimately ended up at eight points.

0:46:34.020 --> 0:46:38.050
<v Speaker 1>As bad as that is, I think I did worse.

0:46:38.719 --> 0:46:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Did I do worse? Oh, no. I'm pretty sure I did.

0:46:40.700 --> 0:46:44.220
<v Speaker 2>No, because you didn't get minus 10. Now, you didn't

0:46:44.260 --> 0:46:46.250
<v Speaker 2>have a good week, my friend. I won't lie to

0:46:46.270 --> 0:46:49.010
<v Speaker 2>you and tell you that. But you got 22 points.

0:46:49.430 --> 0:46:50.930
<v Speaker 2>You got 22 points this week.

0:46:51.170 --> 0:46:51.590
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:46:52.510 --> 0:46:55.819
<v Speaker 2>The non-minus 10 in your equation really did a lot

0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:58.339
<v Speaker 2>of heavy lifting here. But if I was up one

0:46:58.620 --> 0:47:02.660
<v Speaker 2>last week... that means that you are now up 13

0:47:02.660 --> 0:47:05.780
<v Speaker 2>and that's doable. I was very scared as those games

0:47:05.820 --> 0:47:08.310
<v Speaker 2>were coming to final on Sunday that you were going

0:47:08.330 --> 0:47:10.750
<v Speaker 2>to be up 50 points or something and I was

0:47:10.770 --> 0:47:12.730
<v Speaker 2>going to have no prayer of catching you But I

0:47:12.770 --> 0:47:14.130
<v Speaker 2>can catch it for 13 points.

0:47:14.530 --> 0:47:16.420
<v Speaker 1>I can do that. We're still alive in this one.

0:47:16.570 --> 0:47:17.180
<v Speaker 1>The scores?

0:47:17.860 --> 0:47:19.920
<v Speaker 2>Much lower this week than they were last week. Not

0:47:19.960 --> 0:47:22.640
<v Speaker 2>just from us, but also from the people as well.

0:47:22.660 --> 0:47:24.920
<v Speaker 2>For the final standings, let's shout out some people who

0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:28.810
<v Speaker 2>commented their game picks. And we keep score. And we'll

0:47:28.850 --> 0:47:31.250
<v Speaker 2>shout out the best ones every single week. But breathe

0:47:31.290 --> 0:47:33.870
<v Speaker 2>times two. A nice lesson for us after we had

0:47:33.890 --> 0:47:37.009
<v Speaker 2>a bad week of picking. 37 total points as the

0:47:37.110 --> 0:47:42.620
<v Speaker 2>top scorer. Adam got 35. Bobby and PB9 both tied

0:47:42.739 --> 0:47:43.719
<v Speaker 2>at 32.

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:45.500
<v Speaker 1>Those were the leaders for last week.

0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:49.580
<v Speaker 2>I will say that the minus 10 rule absolutely drew

0:47:49.620 --> 0:47:52.940
<v Speaker 2>blood this week everywhere where there were game picks. As

0:47:52.940 --> 0:47:55.920
<v Speaker 2>79 of the 102 people who submitted their picks....

0:47:59.130 --> 0:48:01.910
<v Speaker 1>Put a team at number 10 that lost.

0:48:02.250 --> 0:48:07.400
<v Speaker 2>And in fact, and in fact, the biggest trap game

0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:10.300
<v Speaker 2>was the one I had is my 10. The Bucks

0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:16.810
<v Speaker 2>and the Cowboys, 98 out of 102 entries, Brett, picked

0:48:17.250 --> 0:48:18.930
<v Speaker 2>the Dallas Cowboys to win that game.

0:48:19.270 --> 0:48:21.810
<v Speaker 1>Only four people picked the Buccaneers to win.

0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:26.600
<v Speaker 2>And breathe times two, the person who had the highest

0:48:26.860 --> 0:48:30.540
<v Speaker 2>score this week, they ranked them at the nine spot

0:48:30.640 --> 0:48:31.520
<v Speaker 2>for confidence.

0:48:32.620 --> 0:48:33.170
<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me?

0:48:33.180 --> 0:48:34.990
<v Speaker 2>Not only did they get the Bucs to win, this

0:48:35.070 --> 0:48:39.690
<v Speaker 2>is somebody who deeply hates the Dallas Cowboys, and I

0:48:39.790 --> 0:48:44.570
<v Speaker 2>respect it for how many points they got for picking

0:48:45.170 --> 0:48:47.850
<v Speaker 2>the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in this game. So, yes, that's

0:48:48.230 --> 0:48:50.190
<v Speaker 2>the table that is set from the people here from

0:48:50.230 --> 0:48:50.649
<v Speaker 2>last week.

0:48:51.330 --> 0:48:54.070
<v Speaker 1>But they didn't hate the Cowboys enough to put the

0:48:54.110 --> 0:48:56.580
<v Speaker 1>Bucs at the 10 spot. That's true. They didn't trust

0:48:56.600 --> 0:49:01.620
<v Speaker 1>them entirely. But my God, well done. 37 points. Shall

0:49:01.660 --> 0:49:03.660
<v Speaker 1>we get into these, by the way? Let's do it.

0:49:03.700 --> 0:49:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Let's dig into it.

0:49:04.380 --> 0:49:06.860
<v Speaker 2>The first game that we have on the list is

0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:12.730
<v Speaker 2>Houston versus Jacksonville. Divisional matchup here and one that, boy,

0:49:12.770 --> 0:49:16.370
<v Speaker 2>the Houston Texans very badly need. Who are you picking

0:49:16.390 --> 0:49:17.050
<v Speaker 2>in this game.

0:49:16.870 --> 0:49:20.930
<v Speaker 1>And where is it in the confidence rankings? This... might

0:49:21.050 --> 0:49:23.180
<v Speaker 1>be the homer in me, but I am taking Houston

0:49:23.260 --> 0:49:25.620
<v Speaker 1>in this game, and I do have a legitimate reason

0:49:25.760 --> 0:49:27.700
<v Speaker 1>for it. It's not just because they traded for Marvin

0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:29.799
<v Speaker 1>Harrison Jr. That, to me, isn't the biggest factor here.

0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:33.259
<v Speaker 1>When you lose your left tackle... The week before you're

0:49:33.280 --> 0:49:35.420
<v Speaker 1>supposed to play against Will Anderson and Daniil Hunter, that

0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:38.200
<v Speaker 1>is a massive point of concern if I was a

0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:43.250
<v Speaker 1>Jags fan. Travis Hunter has played really, really well at

0:49:43.330 --> 0:49:46.350
<v Speaker 1>corner so far this year, as we've talked about throughout

0:49:46.390 --> 0:49:50.430
<v Speaker 1>the season. But that being said, even if he's matched

0:49:50.489 --> 0:49:53.669
<v Speaker 1>up on Nico Collins, CJ spreads the ball around so

0:49:53.730 --> 0:49:55.969
<v Speaker 1>much in this offense, and there are other weapons on

0:49:56.010 --> 0:49:58.750
<v Speaker 1>the field that I think, even if Hunter does have

0:49:58.770 --> 0:50:02.150
<v Speaker 1>a good day against Nico, it obviously doesn't You know,

0:50:02.210 --> 0:50:05.150
<v Speaker 1>injecting Marv into this team is potentially their new X receiver.

0:50:05.190 --> 0:50:07.450
<v Speaker 1>We'll see. And use Nico as a moving chess piece.

0:50:07.890 --> 0:50:10.390
<v Speaker 1>I think there's enough targets here where Stroud can still

0:50:10.450 --> 0:50:12.660
<v Speaker 1>have a good day through the air, even if Hunter

0:50:12.700 --> 0:50:15.520
<v Speaker 1>has a great day. I still don't think the Texans

0:50:15.540 --> 0:50:16.939
<v Speaker 1>are going to be able to run the ball that well,

0:50:17.040 --> 0:50:21.000
<v Speaker 1>but it hasn't necessarily affected Stroud that much. You know,

0:50:21.040 --> 0:50:23.080
<v Speaker 1>not having a run game. He's been great this year.

0:50:23.120 --> 0:50:25.589
<v Speaker 1>Trevor's been great this year. It's a battle between two

0:50:25.670 --> 0:50:28.669
<v Speaker 1>really good young quarterbacks, but ultimately, the Jags not having

0:50:28.690 --> 0:50:32.120
<v Speaker 1>their left tackle against arguably the best edge duo in

0:50:32.140 --> 0:50:33.899
<v Speaker 1>the league, that to me is hard to overcome. So

0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:36.060
<v Speaker 1>give me the Texans. I put it at the four spot.

0:50:36.600 --> 0:50:38.719
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I put the Jags at the four spot.

0:50:38.840 --> 0:50:40.770
<v Speaker 2>So we're starting off at the same spot here. We're

0:50:40.790 --> 0:50:44.920
<v Speaker 2>just flipping teams. I am definitely worried about the Jags'

0:50:45.040 --> 0:50:47.879
<v Speaker 2>offensive line overall. Anytime you have injuries and you're going

0:50:47.920 --> 0:50:51.100
<v Speaker 2>up against the best duo that we have in the NFL,

0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:54.510
<v Speaker 2>not ideal. So that's advantage Houston. But I will say

0:50:54.590 --> 0:50:57.549
<v Speaker 2>that Houston's lack of ability to run the football and

0:50:57.630 --> 0:51:00.589
<v Speaker 2>control this game the way that they would want to

0:51:00.650 --> 0:51:03.430
<v Speaker 2>and keep that Jags' offense off the field, I'm worried

0:51:03.450 --> 0:51:05.989
<v Speaker 2>about that on their side of things as well. I

0:51:06.030 --> 0:51:07.620
<v Speaker 2>think this is going to be a close game. I

0:51:07.640 --> 0:51:09.859
<v Speaker 2>think this is a game where throw the records out

0:51:09.880 --> 0:51:11.460
<v Speaker 2>of it. I don't care what the records are.

0:51:11.400 --> 0:51:12.020
<v Speaker 1>Of this team anymore.

0:51:12.580 --> 0:51:14.279
<v Speaker 2>To me, this one's going to be really close, but

0:51:14.540 --> 0:51:17.650
<v Speaker 2>I do have more faith in this Jacksonville team just

0:51:17.670 --> 0:51:19.029
<v Speaker 2>because I think it's one of the best in the

0:51:19.150 --> 0:51:20.989
<v Speaker 2>NFL and where I think Houston is going to get

0:51:21.110 --> 0:51:24.529
<v Speaker 2>better is a really tough opponent on that road to

0:51:24.550 --> 0:51:26.810
<v Speaker 2>getting better. So give me Jacksonville here in this one.

0:51:27.150 --> 0:51:30.219
<v Speaker 2>I've also got that one at the four spot. Atlanta

0:51:30.860 --> 0:51:34.960
<v Speaker 2>and Chicago. So remember, Ben Johnson kind of talked about, hey,

0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:38.640
<v Speaker 2>there's a chance that Caleb Williams comes back and certainly

0:51:38.660 --> 0:51:41.500
<v Speaker 2>looking at the quarterback performance of the Chicago Bears last week,

0:51:41.540 --> 0:51:44.020
<v Speaker 2>they would certainly be love that. They're coming up against

0:51:44.080 --> 0:51:47.800
<v Speaker 2>a Falcons team that was red hot before that overtime

0:51:47.980 --> 0:51:51.080
<v Speaker 2>loss to Baltimore, which thank you, Baltimore, because if I

0:51:51.100 --> 0:51:53.520
<v Speaker 2>didn't get those eight points from the Ravens, I would

0:51:53.540 --> 0:51:57.180
<v Speaker 2>have been sitting at zero. So I'm very thankful for

0:51:57.219 --> 0:51:58.870
<v Speaker 2>that one. But what do you think about Atlanta this

0:51:58.910 --> 0:52:00.629
<v Speaker 2>week going up against the Chicago Bears?

0:52:01.770 --> 0:52:05.630
<v Speaker 1>There is a really interesting dichotomy between pressured Michael Penix

0:52:05.810 --> 0:52:11.839
<v Speaker 1>and unpressured Michael Penix. When Penix is not pressured, He

0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:15.860
<v Speaker 1>was top two in EPA per dropback. When he is pressured,

0:52:16.540 --> 0:52:20.529
<v Speaker 1>he is dead last. And that is something I am

0:52:20.570 --> 0:52:24.109
<v Speaker 1>worried about for the Falcons. Luckily for them, the Bears'

0:52:24.130 --> 0:52:27.630
<v Speaker 1>pass rush isn't actually that great. And now that Dio's injured,

0:52:27.670 --> 0:52:30.930
<v Speaker 1>it's not going to be great this week either. So

0:52:31.450 --> 0:52:33.589
<v Speaker 1>if Penix is kept clean, they could have a lot

0:52:33.630 --> 0:52:36.509
<v Speaker 1>of success offensively. And obviously, you know, Bijan's incredible and

0:52:36.530 --> 0:52:38.899
<v Speaker 1>Drake London's incredible and all that kind of stuff. Really,

0:52:38.940 --> 0:52:40.900
<v Speaker 1>the Falcons offense is going to struggle against teams that

0:52:40.920 --> 0:52:46.180
<v Speaker 1>can actually just make Pennix uncomfortable. Under pressure per NextGenStats.

0:52:46.280 --> 0:52:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Last week against Baltimore, 2 of 9 for like 3.6

0:52:50.920 --> 0:52:54.040
<v Speaker 1>yards per attempt. It just wasn't great. That third and

0:52:54.100 --> 0:52:57.320
<v Speaker 1>five that could have clinched the game for them. He

0:52:57.580 --> 0:53:00.180
<v Speaker 1>was under pressure against a zero look. Missed the throw

0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:02.970
<v Speaker 1>against Bijan, where Bijan was matched up in space against

0:53:02.989 --> 0:53:06.030
<v Speaker 1>a 40-year-old Calais Campbell. You hit that throw, you probably

0:53:06.050 --> 0:53:08.419
<v Speaker 1>win the game. They didn't hit the throw. They didn't

0:53:08.440 --> 0:53:11.129
<v Speaker 1>win the game. So that's the key thing for here

0:53:11.190 --> 0:53:14.610
<v Speaker 1>on the Atlanta side. On the Chicago side, is Caleb playing,

0:53:14.650 --> 0:53:18.090
<v Speaker 1>yes or no? I believe he is, just based on

0:53:18.110 --> 0:53:22.069
<v Speaker 1>the pregame workout that he did this past week. It

0:53:22.140 --> 0:53:25.640
<v Speaker 1>looked like they were really close to letting him go,

0:53:26.320 --> 0:53:28.120
<v Speaker 1>but they wanted to be cautious with it just to

0:53:28.200 --> 0:53:30.839
<v Speaker 1>make sure that there were no complications. I do believe

0:53:30.860 --> 0:53:33.470
<v Speaker 1>he's going to play this week, if I had to

0:53:33.530 --> 0:53:37.300
<v Speaker 1>guess on that. And I still, even with their banged

0:53:37.380 --> 0:53:41.100
<v Speaker 1>up running backs and even with the secondary not playing

0:53:41.140 --> 0:53:44.500
<v Speaker 1>super well last week, I still do believe that the

0:53:44.880 --> 0:53:48.280
<v Speaker 1>difference in quarterback play between Caleb Williams and Michael Penix

0:53:48.380 --> 0:53:50.540
<v Speaker 1>is big enough where I think the Bears are going

0:53:50.560 --> 0:53:54.380
<v Speaker 1>to win this game. That being said, not very confident

0:53:54.420 --> 0:53:56.700
<v Speaker 1>in it. I put it at the three spot.

0:53:57.540 --> 0:54:01.049
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I have the Bears winning this game as well.

0:54:02.210 --> 0:54:05.430
<v Speaker 2>I have it I have it at the seventh spot.

0:54:05.690 --> 0:54:07.410
<v Speaker 2>And I think that that just comes down to how

0:54:07.450 --> 0:54:10.830
<v Speaker 2>much faith I have in Ben Johnson with Caleb Williams

0:54:11.010 --> 0:54:14.110
<v Speaker 2>as his quarterback. Now, I think the interesting part in

0:54:14.130 --> 0:54:17.950
<v Speaker 2>this game isn't necessarily Caleb himself, but it's how Caleb's

0:54:18.050 --> 0:54:20.960
<v Speaker 2>presence can affect the run game for Chicago. Because you

0:54:21.000 --> 0:54:24.440
<v Speaker 2>go back to that Packers game. Yeah, it was a

0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:29.480
<v Speaker 2>massive gap on the scoreboard. But really, the difference.

0:54:29.200 --> 0:54:30.400
<v Speaker 1>In this game was.

0:54:31.200 --> 0:54:34.259
<v Speaker 2>how quickly the Bears let this script get away from them,

0:54:34.340 --> 0:54:36.200
<v Speaker 2>and then they were not able to run the ball.

0:54:36.280 --> 0:54:37.920
<v Speaker 2>You get into the second half of this game, you

0:54:37.940 --> 0:54:40.320
<v Speaker 2>basically have to throw. You're down so much on the scoreboard.

0:54:40.580 --> 0:54:43.000
<v Speaker 2>They're down two scores in the second quarter. You can't

0:54:43.020 --> 0:54:44.660
<v Speaker 2>even play the game plan that you want to. And

0:54:44.680 --> 0:54:47.040
<v Speaker 2>for as much as the talk is always about Ben

0:54:47.080 --> 0:54:49.180
<v Speaker 2>Johnson and Caleb Williams and you know, what they can

0:54:49.200 --> 0:54:51.020
<v Speaker 2>do in this offense, passing the football and all the

0:54:51.060 --> 0:54:53.489
<v Speaker 2>explosives through the air. It's the run game, man. I mean,

0:54:53.510 --> 0:54:55.270
<v Speaker 2>you go back to that Carolina game that they played

0:54:55.310 --> 0:54:57.630
<v Speaker 2>in week one. Yeah, Caleb was great. It was the

0:54:57.690 --> 0:54:59.890
<v Speaker 2>run game, man. They were running the ball all over

0:54:59.930 --> 0:55:01.670
<v Speaker 2>the Panthers and that's what they want to do. Now

0:55:01.710 --> 0:55:05.049
<v Speaker 2>the Falcons specifically have been great at defending the run

0:55:05.090 --> 0:55:06.610
<v Speaker 2>this year. They're one of the better teams when it

0:55:06.650 --> 0:55:10.109
<v Speaker 2>comes to yards per game allowed on the ground. They've

0:55:10.140 --> 0:55:13.600
<v Speaker 2>been very sound in that area. So I think the

0:55:13.620 --> 0:55:16.410
<v Speaker 2>Bears will need Caleb to be in this game to

0:55:16.690 --> 0:55:18.810
<v Speaker 2>take off that pressure of the run game. But if

0:55:18.870 --> 0:55:20.489
<v Speaker 2>he plays, and I agree with you, I think he

0:55:20.550 --> 0:55:24.540
<v Speaker 2>does play. I think that offense is balanced enough. And

0:55:24.580 --> 0:55:26.160
<v Speaker 2>I think that they're able to get it done. So

0:55:26.300 --> 0:55:29.360
<v Speaker 2>I put Chicago at the seven spot here because I

0:55:29.380 --> 0:55:30.660
<v Speaker 2>think it's going to be a little bit better for

0:55:30.700 --> 0:55:32.560
<v Speaker 2>them on the ground because they're going to be a

0:55:32.580 --> 0:55:35.000
<v Speaker 2>little bit more balanced in this game. Speaking of the

0:55:35.040 --> 0:55:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Baltimore Ravens, who defeated the Atlanta Falcons last week, Baltimore's

0:55:39.000 --> 0:55:42.060
<v Speaker 2>taking on the Cleveland Browns. Browns coming off a loss

0:55:42.080 --> 0:55:43.719
<v Speaker 2>to the New York Jets. What do you think about

0:55:43.760 --> 0:55:45.259
<v Speaker 2>this game? Who are you taking and where is it.

0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:48.620
<v Speaker 1>In the rankings? I'm taking Baltimore. I put it at

0:55:48.640 --> 0:55:53.469
<v Speaker 1>the sixth spot. I don't think that Huntley had a

0:55:53.680 --> 0:55:57.630
<v Speaker 1>remarkable day last week against Atlanta, but he did exactly

0:55:57.650 --> 0:56:00.550
<v Speaker 1>what a backup quarterback is supposed to do. Second half

0:56:00.570 --> 0:56:03.570
<v Speaker 1>in OT, he was 13 of 14, didn't even attempt

0:56:03.590 --> 0:56:06.529
<v Speaker 1>to pass over 20 yards, only completed two passes over

0:56:06.530 --> 0:56:09.530
<v Speaker 1>10 yards. But if you're looking at the passing map

0:56:10.070 --> 0:56:13.110
<v Speaker 1>and seeing how he distributed the ball underneath, he used

0:56:13.230 --> 0:56:15.900
<v Speaker 1>every blade of grass under 10 yards. It wasn't just a,

0:56:15.890 --> 0:56:18.410
<v Speaker 1>I'm pushing it to the boundary. He also used the

0:56:18.870 --> 0:56:21.029
<v Speaker 1>short middle of the field too, which if you're going

0:56:21.050 --> 0:56:23.969
<v Speaker 1>to play that kind of point guard style, that's exactly

0:56:24.030 --> 0:56:25.350
<v Speaker 1>how you should be doing. You should be willing to

0:56:25.370 --> 0:56:28.870
<v Speaker 1>work the middle as well. So I think whether it's Huntley...

0:56:29.260 --> 0:56:32.700
<v Speaker 1>Or Lamar, as of right now, we don't know if

0:56:32.820 --> 0:56:35.940
<v Speaker 1>Lamar is going to be back. But no matter who

0:56:36.020 --> 0:56:38.420
<v Speaker 1>is in there at quarterback for Baltimore, I have confidence

0:56:38.440 --> 0:56:42.160
<v Speaker 1>in their ability to execute this offense because they are still,

0:56:42.480 --> 0:56:46.050
<v Speaker 1>even after starting Snoop against a good Falcons defense, they're

0:56:46.070 --> 0:56:49.049
<v Speaker 1>the number one offense in the entire league in terms

0:56:49.090 --> 0:56:52.009
<v Speaker 1>of success rate. Like Declan Doyle is cooking no matter

0:56:52.070 --> 0:56:55.270
<v Speaker 1>who is out there. So I have a lot of

0:56:55.290 --> 0:56:58.529
<v Speaker 1>confidence in this offense. I have confidence in Jesse Minter

0:56:58.550 --> 0:57:01.830
<v Speaker 1>in terms of game management over, let's just say the

0:57:01.870 --> 0:57:06.029
<v Speaker 1>previous era. I think he's been overall very good at that. And,

0:57:06.070 --> 0:57:11.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, Cleveland, I think they're better than I thought

0:57:11.380 --> 0:57:13.650
<v Speaker 1>they would be going into this year. I think a

0:57:13.680 --> 0:57:15.860
<v Speaker 1>lot of their young talent has played really well. Denzel

0:57:15.880 --> 0:57:18.660
<v Speaker 1>Boston's been awesome. You know, they've been very good at

0:57:18.700 --> 0:57:21.920
<v Speaker 1>getting yards after the catch. I just still feel like

0:57:21.940 --> 0:57:24.180
<v Speaker 1>they're a year away from being a year away. And

0:57:24.220 --> 0:57:27.220
<v Speaker 1>while this game will be close, I really do believe

0:57:27.240 --> 0:57:31.360
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be close. Ultimately, I just have more

0:57:31.640 --> 0:57:35.380
<v Speaker 1>faith in the baseline of the Baltimore Ravens than I

0:57:35.400 --> 0:57:37.920
<v Speaker 1>do in the baseline of the Cleveland Browns. So give

0:57:37.940 --> 0:57:40.720
<v Speaker 1>me the Ravens in this one narrowly. But I did

0:57:40.760 --> 0:57:42.780
<v Speaker 1>put it at the confidence spot of six.

0:57:43.570 --> 0:57:46.580
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Browns are still a team that is playing

0:57:46.620 --> 0:57:48.260
<v Speaker 2>a lot of young guys. And I think early on

0:57:48.280 --> 0:57:50.720
<v Speaker 2>in the season, they were playing above expectation. They really

0:57:50.760 --> 0:57:52.640
<v Speaker 2>were able to surprise teams. And that's how you get

0:57:52.920 --> 0:57:55.690
<v Speaker 2>a couple of those early wins for Cleveland. But I

0:57:55.710 --> 0:57:58.420
<v Speaker 2>think this past week against the Browns, or excuse me,

0:57:58.430 --> 0:58:02.490
<v Speaker 2>this past week against the Jets, you saw, okay, we're

0:58:02.530 --> 0:58:04.170
<v Speaker 2>playing a lot of rookies. And it really showed up

0:58:04.210 --> 0:58:07.280
<v Speaker 2>in this game specifically with how often Deshaun Watson was pressured.

0:58:07.540 --> 0:58:10.240
<v Speaker 2>Deshaun was pressured on 26 of his 44 dropbacks. It's

0:58:10.280 --> 0:58:13.220
<v Speaker 2>almost a 60% pressure rate. It's the second highest pressure

0:58:13.240 --> 0:58:15.500
<v Speaker 2>rate Watson's faced in a single game since 2018. It

0:58:15.540 --> 0:58:18.610
<v Speaker 2>was the most of an Aaron Glenn team since he

0:58:18.640 --> 0:58:21.110
<v Speaker 2>took over for the New York Jets. And so they

0:58:21.150 --> 0:58:25.050
<v Speaker 2>were really able to get after a younger offensive line.

0:58:25.810 --> 0:58:28.910
<v Speaker 2>And even though the Ravens' pass rush isn't the best

0:58:28.950 --> 0:58:31.570
<v Speaker 2>that it's been over the last half decade, I still

0:58:31.610 --> 0:58:34.470
<v Speaker 2>think that this unit can rattle Deshaun Watson and this

0:58:34.550 --> 0:58:36.610
<v Speaker 2>offense and a lot of these young guys, especially if

0:58:36.630 --> 0:58:39.450
<v Speaker 2>the offense is playing at a pretty high level. Like

0:58:39.470 --> 0:58:42.550
<v Speaker 2>you had mentioned, their success rate's been pretty consistently high

0:58:42.650 --> 0:58:43.490
<v Speaker 2>all season long.

0:58:44.390 --> 0:58:45.030
<v Speaker 1>If that's going to.

0:58:44.990 --> 0:58:46.350
<v Speaker 2>Continue to be the case, which I think that it

0:58:46.390 --> 0:58:49.660
<v Speaker 2>can be, give me Baltimore in this one. They were

0:58:49.720 --> 0:58:52.100
<v Speaker 2>lucky for me in the eighth spot last week. Let's

0:58:52.140 --> 0:58:53.760
<v Speaker 2>keep them in the eighth spot for this week. So

0:58:53.780 --> 0:58:55.400
<v Speaker 2>I'll take Baltimore and I'll have them at the eighth

0:58:55.420 --> 0:58:59.840
<v Speaker 2>spot here. What about the Philadelphia Eagles and the Carolina Panthers?

0:59:00.080 --> 0:59:01.700
<v Speaker 2>What do you think.

0:59:01.000 --> 0:59:02.820
<v Speaker 3>About this game?

0:59:02.820 --> 0:59:07.730
<v Speaker 1>What do the Eagles do well? Like, I don't... Truly.

0:59:07.730 --> 0:59:10.210
<v Speaker 2>It's it's, it's one of those things that I can

0:59:10.370 --> 0:59:15.260
<v Speaker 2>answer that question for you inconsistently. Like, I think that

0:59:15.300 --> 0:59:18.780
<v Speaker 2>hurts is still doing a nice job of avoiding the

0:59:18.820 --> 0:59:22.440
<v Speaker 2>big negatives and escaping pressure when it's in the pocket

0:59:22.720 --> 0:59:25.380
<v Speaker 2>versus a, an offensive line. That's not ideal or not

0:59:25.420 --> 0:59:29.050
<v Speaker 2>typical of a Philly offensive line over the last half decade. Um,

0:59:29.430 --> 0:59:32.310
<v Speaker 2>they can throw it deep, you know, when the game

0:59:32.330 --> 0:59:34.550
<v Speaker 2>script kind of calls for it, especially outside the numbers,

0:59:34.590 --> 0:59:37.080
<v Speaker 2>cause Hertz is good at that. But do they do

0:59:37.120 --> 0:59:40.620
<v Speaker 2>those things consistently? No, even though they're good at it,

0:59:40.620 --> 0:59:42.520
<v Speaker 2>they don't do them consistently this year. So it's tough

0:59:42.540 --> 0:59:43.280
<v Speaker 2>to answer that question.

0:59:44.800 --> 0:59:47.530
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, while Carolina does have some of

0:59:47.550 --> 0:59:50.010
<v Speaker 1>their own issues, obviously they've been banged up on defense,

0:59:50.210 --> 0:59:54.810
<v Speaker 1>you know, losing both corners doesn't help anybody. Um, you know,

0:59:54.850 --> 0:59:56.070
<v Speaker 1>I think the bye week came at a good time

0:59:56.090 --> 0:59:59.910
<v Speaker 1>for them to try to get healthy again. but offensively

1:00:00.770 --> 1:00:04.710
<v Speaker 1>these two teams are not in the same tier, like

1:00:04.750 --> 1:00:08.410
<v Speaker 1>not even close. Like Bryce is playing fantastic. McMillan is

1:00:08.450 --> 1:00:11.830
<v Speaker 1>playing fan, like more than fantastic. He's been unbelievable, especially

1:00:11.870 --> 1:00:13.710
<v Speaker 1>now they're giving him more reps in the slot where

1:00:13.750 --> 1:00:16.890
<v Speaker 1>he is just eating people alive. The run game was productive.

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<v Speaker 1>The last time we saw them young offensive line, you know,

1:00:19.860 --> 1:00:23.320
<v Speaker 1>similar to Cleveland, I think has been a little up

1:00:23.360 --> 1:00:25.320
<v Speaker 1>and down, but Bryce has been so good under pressure.

1:00:25.340 --> 1:00:28.320
<v Speaker 1>It hasn't really mattered that much. I think Canales is

1:00:28.360 --> 1:00:30.660
<v Speaker 1>getting the most out of this team, even through the

1:00:30.740 --> 1:00:35.439
<v Speaker 1>injuries that started back in August in camp. We still

1:00:35.500 --> 1:00:38.600
<v Speaker 1>haven't seen anything close to what a fully armed and

1:00:38.660 --> 1:00:41.740
<v Speaker 1>operational Panthers team looks like when they're fully healthy. We

1:00:41.820 --> 1:00:44.040
<v Speaker 1>won't this entire year because of some of their injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're still a really good team even through that.

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<v Speaker 1>And they just do so many things well that they

1:00:49.970 --> 1:00:53.590
<v Speaker 1>can hang their hat on, especially offensively compared to the Eagles,

1:00:53.630 --> 1:00:55.770
<v Speaker 1>that I don't think they have an identity. I don't

1:00:55.790 --> 1:00:58.450
<v Speaker 1>think they... they have anything they can really lean on

1:00:58.910 --> 1:01:00.950
<v Speaker 1>to win this game. So give me Carolina, put them

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<v Speaker 1>at the eight spot.

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<v Speaker 2>So I also have Carolina in this game. I have

1:01:04.810 --> 1:01:07.050
<v Speaker 2>them at the five spot right in the middle. And

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<v Speaker 2>I have more faith in Carolina to execute this game

1:01:13.380 --> 1:01:15.450
<v Speaker 2>plan the way that they want to, but they could

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<v Speaker 2>potentially have some other heavy hitters coming back in this game, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Devontae Smith could come back in this game. Saquon Barkley

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<v Speaker 2>could come back in this game. And obviously they've had

1:01:22.600 --> 1:01:24.890
<v Speaker 2>those guys and still had their struggles, but If those

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<v Speaker 2>guys play, Angus is a lot closer, and I think

1:01:27.290 --> 1:01:29.270
<v Speaker 2>they have the ability to keep this game closer than

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<v Speaker 2>maybe most think. But when you talk about Bryce Young

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<v Speaker 2>and this Panthers offense, it's fantastic. He's top five, if

1:01:34.310 --> 1:01:38.470
<v Speaker 2>not top three in passing yards, completion percentage above expected,

1:01:38.990 --> 1:01:42.190
<v Speaker 2>EPA per dropback, all against zone. He is an assassin

1:01:42.510 --> 1:01:44.610
<v Speaker 2>this year, and anytime you have a quarterback who's playing

1:01:44.650 --> 1:01:46.910
<v Speaker 2>that confidently, it's hard to bet against him. So even

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<v Speaker 2>though I only have him at the five spot here,

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<v Speaker 2>I do still have the Carolina Panthers at the five

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<v Speaker 2>spot to beat the Philadelphia Eagles. The Pittsburgh Steelers and

1:01:55.620 --> 1:01:58.300
<v Speaker 2>the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Tampa Bay, the team that tripped

1:01:58.380 --> 1:02:01.980
<v Speaker 2>up everybody last week. Who are you picking in this

1:02:02.040 --> 1:02:03.720
<v Speaker 2>game and where is it going on the confidence rankings?

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<v Speaker 1>So the Steelers have been another one of these teams

1:02:06.160 --> 1:02:08.990
<v Speaker 1>that has been really good at getting yards after the catch.

1:02:09.030 --> 1:02:15.310
<v Speaker 1>They had 179 yards after the catch last week. Aaron Rodgers,

1:02:15.350 --> 1:02:18.270
<v Speaker 1>he's three straight games with three touchdowns. But a lot

1:02:18.290 --> 1:02:20.290
<v Speaker 1>of that is just because his guys have been so

1:02:20.550 --> 1:02:26.030
<v Speaker 1>good after the catch. And I do wonder... if Tampa

1:02:26.050 --> 1:02:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Bay is going to be able to do anything about

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Warren in space, it feels like nobody's been able

1:02:29.980 --> 1:02:31.800
<v Speaker 1>to do anything about Jalen Warren in space so far

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<v Speaker 1>this year. I do think that this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a fairly close game. I don't necessarily think that,

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<v Speaker 1>that Pittsburgh is, how do I say this diplomatically? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they're going to be there in the end

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<v Speaker 1>at the AFC.

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<v Speaker 3>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also don't think Tampa's even going to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the playoffs at this point. So if we're just

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<v Speaker 1>looking at which team is better, I would say Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 1>is better. But this reads to me like a battle

1:03:00.320 --> 1:03:05.920
<v Speaker 1>of two teams that are not contenders. And so which

1:03:06.080 --> 1:03:10.240
<v Speaker 1>one is just closer to being solid or just is solid?

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<v Speaker 1>I would say the Steelers. Really exciting, young, talented offensive line,

1:03:14.490 --> 1:03:18.170
<v Speaker 1>plus great running back, plus quarterback that's just not making mistakes,

1:03:18.190 --> 1:03:22.850
<v Speaker 1>and Aaron Rodgers. you know, you have a woolly mammoth

1:03:22.930 --> 1:03:24.850
<v Speaker 1>at tight end and Darnell Washington, where you give him

1:03:24.890 --> 1:03:26.690
<v Speaker 1>the ball and let him rumble. There's just so many

1:03:26.750 --> 1:03:29.970
<v Speaker 1>things that they can do. That's what he is, man.

1:03:30.010 --> 1:03:32.670
<v Speaker 1>Like he's just impossible to bring down by, by yourself.

1:03:32.730 --> 1:03:35.450
<v Speaker 1>So like Rogers doesn't have to make crazy throws. He

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<v Speaker 1>just has guys that can make plays once they have

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<v Speaker 1>the ball in their hands. And that's a tough formula

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with. So yeah, give me Pittsburgh here, but

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<v Speaker 1>I did put it at the one spot. Cause I,

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<v Speaker 1>I still, I'm, I'm not all the way in on

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<v Speaker 1>the Steelers this year. I just think they're better than Tampa.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, understandably so. I mean, it's interesting that you brought

1:03:52.460 --> 1:03:56.520
<v Speaker 2>up Aaron Rodgers. 22 of 31 passes last week, 235 yards,

1:03:56.560 --> 1:03:57.800
<v Speaker 2>three touchdowns, no interceptions.

1:03:57.820 --> 1:04:00.570
<v Speaker 1>You'd be like, well, phenomenal day at the office.

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<v Speaker 2>For Aaron Rodgers. 4.1 air yards per attempt. That's his

1:04:04.610 --> 1:04:06.350
<v Speaker 2>lowest of a single game this season.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the script. But even with that being the script...

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how much faith I have in the

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<v Speaker 2>Buccaneers to be able to cover either Jalen Warren or

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<v Speaker 2>Darnell Washington, like you mentioned. I think that Jacob Parrish

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<v Speaker 2>has been fantastic and very reliable for them tackling, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's just one man in that secondary. The rest is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of up for grabs. I took Pittsburgh and I

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<v Speaker 2>took them at the sixth spot here just because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think that Pittsburgh has a high ceiling as a team.

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<v Speaker 2>But even the floor of this team, I think you

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<v Speaker 2>have to kind of bet on that given all of

1:04:36.470 --> 1:04:40.030
<v Speaker 2>Tampa's inconsistencies. Even last week, I mean, Tampa was great,

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<v Speaker 2>don't get me wrong, but you take out a couple

1:04:42.330 --> 1:04:46.370
<v Speaker 2>of Bucky Irving crazy runs from this game and they

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<v Speaker 2>might not even win that game against a Cowboys team

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<v Speaker 2>that played horribly. So it's hard to have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of faith in this Tampa team until they really start

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<v Speaker 2>to stack better games and I'm not ready to bet

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<v Speaker 2>on them yet. So give me Pittsburgh, give me them

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<v Speaker 2>at the sixth spot here. What about the Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 2>Rams and the Arizona Cardinals as our next game here?

1:05:05.040 --> 1:05:07.060
<v Speaker 2>A battle in the NFC West.

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<v Speaker 1>That Cardinals game was not close. They jumped out to

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<v Speaker 1>an early lead. They got a couple, not even a couple,

1:05:12.240 --> 1:05:14.640
<v Speaker 1>they got three three-and-outs in a row off the Lions.

1:05:14.660 --> 1:05:16.950
<v Speaker 1>They had a 14-play drive that scored early. And then

1:05:16.990 --> 1:05:22.750
<v Speaker 1>they went three-and-out, three-and-out, three-and-out, three-and-out, three-and-out. Back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back. And then

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<v Speaker 1>threw a pick going into halftime. You know, it's arm punt.

1:05:25.750 --> 1:05:28.980
<v Speaker 1>Last few seconds, who cares? But you have six straight

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<v Speaker 1>drives doing absolutely nothing. And in that time span, the

1:05:32.010 --> 1:05:36.050
<v Speaker 1>Lions did touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal. Next thing you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's 24-7. So they started out getting three stops and

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<v Speaker 1>with a lead and then just got steamrolled. This team

1:05:45.700 --> 1:05:49.480
<v Speaker 1>is not close. They're really not close. And looking back

1:05:49.540 --> 1:05:52.590
<v Speaker 1>on that win... against the Chargers in week one, where

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<v Speaker 1>initially we're like, oh, okay, Cardinals might be kind of

1:05:55.850 --> 1:05:58.590
<v Speaker 1>feisty here. Like, we like the Chargers. Now we know

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<v Speaker 1>the Chargers are just bad. Yeah, right. It's like, okay,

1:06:01.190 --> 1:06:03.090
<v Speaker 1>that was a bad team beating a bad team, right?

1:06:03.150 --> 1:06:07.500
<v Speaker 1>So I just, I don't think they're anything near the

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<v Speaker 1>Rams at this point. Not that the Rams don't have

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<v Speaker 1>their own issues. Obviously they do. But when the rubber

1:06:13.060 --> 1:06:16.120
<v Speaker 1>meets the road and you play against a really good

1:06:16.200 --> 1:06:19.950
<v Speaker 1>quarterback with really good weapons and a really good in

1:06:19.990 --> 1:06:23.930
<v Speaker 1>a really good system, even if you spot them seven

1:06:23.990 --> 1:06:28.040
<v Speaker 1>points early, they can just have these avalanches happen against them.

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<v Speaker 1>When they do these three and outs, and their defense

1:06:31.260 --> 1:06:33.080
<v Speaker 1>gets gassed because they're always on the field, and the

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<v Speaker 1>offense can't stay on the field, and it just looks

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So give me the Rams. I'm very, very

1:06:40.260 --> 1:06:43.040
<v Speaker 1>confident in this one. I put it at the nine spot.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do you one better. I put them at the

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<v Speaker 2>10 spot. I picked the Rams at the 10 spot

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<v Speaker 2>in this game. And the reason why is because I

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<v Speaker 2>think that these are teams that are going in different directions.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand the Rams didn't win in overtime against the Bills,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think they're looking better and better as a

1:06:59.310 --> 1:07:00.210
<v Speaker 2>team overall.

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<v Speaker 1>And even though I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think that the Rams can certainly put up points, I trust,

1:07:04.950 --> 1:07:07.350
<v Speaker 2>or sorry, the Cardinals can put up points. I trust

1:07:07.390 --> 1:07:09.570
<v Speaker 2>the Rams to be the better finisher in this game.

1:07:09.610 --> 1:07:14.260
<v Speaker 2>And also, Brett, they have to win this game. They

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<v Speaker 2>have to win this game because this is now the

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<v Speaker 2>start of their run.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Cardinals, Raiders, Chargers, Commanders, Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 2>And in that five-game stretch, they basically have to win

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<v Speaker 2>four out of those five games. And if you drop

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<v Speaker 2>the first one, that's not the place that you want

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<v Speaker 2>to be. So I think this Rams team knows that

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<v Speaker 2>their back's against the wall here. They have to win

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<v Speaker 2>this game against the Cardinals. And I think they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to give the Cardinals their absolute best. So give me

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<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles here. I've got them at the 10th spot

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<v Speaker 2>this week. Staying in Los Angeles, the Chargers are taking

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<v Speaker 2>on the Kansas City Chiefs. What do you think about

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<v Speaker 2>this game?

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<v Speaker 1>I got to go to the Chiefs. Similar kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thing when we talk about the Eagles. What do the

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<v Speaker 1>Chargers do well right now other than just stop the

1:07:58.930 --> 1:08:01.850
<v Speaker 1>bleeding on defense? This is a very good defense in

1:08:01.890 --> 1:08:04.900
<v Speaker 1>terms of EPA per play, but they're still 22nd in

1:08:04.940 --> 1:08:08.470
<v Speaker 1>terms of points given up. just because they have by

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<v Speaker 1>far the most drives that start in their own territory

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<v Speaker 1>this year. It's over three and a half per game

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<v Speaker 1>that start in Charger territory that this Chargers defense has

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with. 19 total drives have started on their

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<v Speaker 1>side of the 50. You can't play defense that way either.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel bad for Chargers fans because it really did

1:08:31.620 --> 1:08:35.330
<v Speaker 1>feel like going into this year, The hype really was

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<v Speaker 1>at an all-time high. You bring in McDaniel. You have

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<v Speaker 1>your tackles back. On paper, we like the weapons. The defense,

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<v Speaker 1>you're still keeping the same system with the same core

1:08:45.840 --> 1:08:50.320
<v Speaker 1>of talent. Everything was lining up for them to just

1:08:50.360 --> 1:08:53.360
<v Speaker 1>be a better version of what they were last year.

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<v Speaker 1>And they are quite possibly the worst version of the

1:08:57.970 --> 1:09:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Chargers that I've seen either. even going back like multiple

1:09:02.140 --> 1:09:05.770
<v Speaker 1>regimes like did the Brandon Staley era Chargers ever look

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<v Speaker 1>this hopeless I'm not sure that they have and and

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<v Speaker 1>here we are five weeks into the season and they

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<v Speaker 1>they really do look hopeless So even with the defense

1:09:16.840 --> 1:09:18.540
<v Speaker 1>putting up a good fight, it hasn't really made that

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<v Speaker 1>much of a difference. Give me the Chiefs by a

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<v Speaker 1>lot in this game. I put it at the 7th spot.

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<v Speaker 2>Once again, I have this one a little bit higher

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<v Speaker 2>than you. Give me the Chiefs, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>put it at the 9th spot. Now, the only saving

1:09:32.920 --> 1:09:35.120
<v Speaker 2>grace that I feel like I have for the Chargers

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<v Speaker 2>is the Chargers have played the Chiefs close a lot

1:09:38.560 --> 1:09:41.380
<v Speaker 2>over the last couple of seasons, and for the longest time,

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<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs have been— in ways still are, the crown

1:09:45.910 --> 1:09:50.330
<v Speaker 2>jewel of that division. And no matter what, any of

1:09:50.390 --> 1:09:55.250
<v Speaker 2>those three teams that go up against the Chiefs, the Broncos,

1:09:55.290 --> 1:09:58.770
<v Speaker 2>the Chargers, the Raiders, or whatever, they circle this game

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<v Speaker 2>on the calendar. They go, okay, who cares what we

1:10:01.890 --> 1:10:04.219
<v Speaker 2>did the rest of the year? If we can say

1:10:04.310 --> 1:10:07.099
<v Speaker 2>we beat Kansas City, we're going to have some pride.

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<v Speaker 2>And so again, just like I kind of talked about

1:10:09.540 --> 1:10:11.540
<v Speaker 2>with the Rams, that they've got to win this game.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the same with the Chargers. Because if you

1:10:15.470 --> 1:10:18.339
<v Speaker 2>beat the Chiefs, it can be a mini turnaround for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a little too late to be talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the postseason with them in any way, shape, or form.

1:10:21.979 --> 1:10:24.160
<v Speaker 2>But at least you're playing for some pride. You lose

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<v Speaker 2>this game, and this avalanche continues being winless, boy, this

1:10:28.420 --> 1:10:30.320
<v Speaker 2>is going to get real ugly down the stretch of

1:10:30.340 --> 1:10:30.719
<v Speaker 2>the season.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, this feels like a game where, I mean,

1:10:34.340 --> 1:10:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Herbert has looked... Just, I don't know, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfocused, it feels like at times. I mean, I don't

1:10:40.560 --> 1:10:42.450
<v Speaker 2>even know what he's looking at. He's throwing the easiest

1:10:42.490 --> 1:10:45.809
<v Speaker 2>interceptions of his entire career, even for people who criticize

1:10:45.850 --> 1:10:48.490
<v Speaker 2>Justin Herbert at the highest level. The interceptions that he's

1:10:48.530 --> 1:10:51.950
<v Speaker 2>throwing this year are totally different. They're in a totally

1:10:51.990 --> 1:10:55.130
<v Speaker 2>different level than anything that he has attempted and tried before.

1:10:55.150 --> 1:10:57.800
<v Speaker 2>It's like he's just not seeing defenders. The run game's inconsistent.

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<v Speaker 1>The O-line is beat up. The receivers aren't consistent. The defense,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right.

1:11:01.680 --> 1:11:04.340
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's been okay at times, but It can't

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<v Speaker 2>hold up and it can't buoy this offense the way

1:11:07.500 --> 1:11:09.680
<v Speaker 2>that the offense has been playing. All that to say,

1:11:10.479 --> 1:11:13.510
<v Speaker 2>you beat the Chiefs, it's a totally different season. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they're going to beat the Chiefs. Give

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<v Speaker 2>me Kansas City in this game and give me them

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<v Speaker 2>at the 9th spot here. Alright, next game, the Buffalo

1:11:20.250 --> 1:11:22.670
<v Speaker 2>Bills against the Las Vegas Raiders. Bills coming off of

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<v Speaker 2>a thrilling overtime victory against the Los Angeles Rams.

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<v Speaker 1>Who you got in this one? So, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting matchup because I'm not entirely sure what approach...

1:11:32.830 --> 1:11:36.010
<v Speaker 1>the Raiders defense is going to take here. Yeah, right, right.

1:11:36.130 --> 1:11:39.030
<v Speaker 1>They played with fire, played some quarters against Drake May.

1:11:39.070 --> 1:11:41.479
<v Speaker 1>That's not something you want to do. It basically creates

1:11:41.520 --> 1:11:43.439
<v Speaker 1>these one-on-ones. And if you're going to give Drake May

1:11:43.460 --> 1:11:45.320
<v Speaker 1>a one-on-one, he's going to drop the ball in the

1:11:45.360 --> 1:11:48.340
<v Speaker 1>bucket and he's going to score. Had three touchdowns just

1:11:48.380 --> 1:11:51.640
<v Speaker 1>against quarters last week. This is not necessarily a team

1:11:51.680 --> 1:11:55.170
<v Speaker 1>that majors in quarters. In fact, their most called coverage

1:11:55.330 --> 1:11:57.729
<v Speaker 1>is cover three. They also play a bunch of cloud,

1:11:57.810 --> 1:12:02.110
<v Speaker 1>but really they're only coverage that they're like top, in

1:12:02.310 --> 1:12:05.000
<v Speaker 1>is cover three and if you're looking at josh allen

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<v Speaker 1>specifically against cover three is a 105.7 passer rating against

1:12:08.820 --> 1:12:10.740
<v Speaker 1>it this year eight and a half yards per attempt

1:12:11.200 --> 1:12:15.770
<v Speaker 1>completion percentage over expected of 5.2 percent he's not getting

1:12:15.780 --> 1:12:19.769
<v Speaker 1>the same explosives that he did you know specifically against

1:12:19.810 --> 1:12:22.870
<v Speaker 1>these middle field closed coverages that you know when he

1:12:22.890 --> 1:12:26.830
<v Speaker 1>had like stefan diggs and gabe davis back when gabe

1:12:26.850 --> 1:12:30.320
<v Speaker 1>davis would all he did was catch 50 yarders right

1:12:30.380 --> 1:12:33.519
<v Speaker 1>it's not it's It's not the same explosive rate against

1:12:33.580 --> 1:12:36.760
<v Speaker 1>his coverage, but he's still very efficient against it. And

1:12:36.780 --> 1:12:38.479
<v Speaker 1>he has a bunch of targets that are really good

1:12:38.520 --> 1:12:42.540
<v Speaker 1>at finding these soft spots in the zone, especially against

1:12:42.580 --> 1:12:46.110
<v Speaker 1>cover three, and just making these hook droppers lives hell.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is almost like a N'Kobe Dean versus Josh

1:12:49.630 --> 1:12:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Allen kind of game. Yeah, that's what I thought too.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I are in the same spot. If anybody's

1:12:55.350 --> 1:12:56.570
<v Speaker 1>going to get targeted a lot, it's going to be

1:12:56.610 --> 1:12:59.849
<v Speaker 1>N'Kobe Dean. So how does he hold up here? That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm really curious to see. Also, the Raiders' rush

1:13:03.530 --> 1:13:06.170
<v Speaker 1>discipline has to be a lot better than the Rams' was.

1:13:06.229 --> 1:13:09.070
<v Speaker 1>We talked about that, obviously, where they were just giving

1:13:09.110 --> 1:13:11.429
<v Speaker 1>these seams for Allen to step up through the front door,

1:13:11.450 --> 1:13:15.130
<v Speaker 1>and he got 120 yards rushing on Monday night because

1:13:15.150 --> 1:13:18.380
<v Speaker 1>the Rams were bad at rush lane discipline. Can they

1:13:18.420 --> 1:13:21.500
<v Speaker 1>keep Allen contained in the pocket, and can these linebackers

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<v Speaker 1>not get eaten alive when they're in cover three? Those

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<v Speaker 1>are the two main questions. As far as the answers

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<v Speaker 1>to that, I still lean towards Josh Allen and the Bills.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel amazing about it, but if you ask

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<v Speaker 1>me to just look at the top line of Josh

1:13:39.250 --> 1:13:42.030
<v Speaker 1>Allen and the Bills versus Kirk Cousins and the Raiders,

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<v Speaker 1>how close do you think the Raiders are to being

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<v Speaker 1>at that level of team? A couple weeks ago, I

1:13:48.300 --> 1:13:52.920
<v Speaker 1>would have said fairly close. After last week, less so.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll take Buffalo narrowly. I put it at the

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<v Speaker 1>five spot. I gave, I think, my respect to both sides.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's going to be a blowout. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's going to be an unentertaining game. In fact,

1:14:06.479 --> 1:14:07.860
<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to be damn good TV, but

1:14:07.900 --> 1:14:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I do think the Bills will win. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>take the Bills as well.

1:14:10.660 --> 1:14:12.420
<v Speaker 2>I only have it in my two spot, and it's

1:14:12.479 --> 1:14:15.900
<v Speaker 2>because I'm a little uncertain on a handful of things.

1:14:16.439 --> 1:14:18.470
<v Speaker 2>One of the big ones for the Raiders, and I

1:14:18.510 --> 1:14:20.150
<v Speaker 2>think they can definitely keep it close in this game

1:14:20.189 --> 1:14:22.450
<v Speaker 2>and maybe even get the upset because Look, if you

1:14:22.470 --> 1:14:24.809
<v Speaker 2>play a certain style of coverage that Josh Allen just

1:14:24.850 --> 1:14:26.790
<v Speaker 2>feels like he can get aggressive with and he can't,

1:14:27.050 --> 1:14:29.300
<v Speaker 2>let's say you've got an extra deep defender and he's like, yeah,

1:14:29.340 --> 1:14:30.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm still going to challenge it.

1:14:30.340 --> 1:14:31.660
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we even saw that for the Rams.

1:14:32.000 --> 1:14:33.680
<v Speaker 2>He had a throw where he was like, nah, okay,

1:14:33.920 --> 1:14:35.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't care. I'm just going to challenge it anyways.

1:14:35.800 --> 1:14:37.420
<v Speaker 2>You get too many of those and anybody can beat

1:14:37.439 --> 1:14:39.429
<v Speaker 2>the Bills. And I think that's the pro and the

1:14:39.439 --> 1:14:41.570
<v Speaker 2>con of Josh Allen, of course. You can beat anybody,

1:14:41.610 --> 1:14:44.210
<v Speaker 2>but also if you beat yourself, well, you're letting everybody

1:14:44.250 --> 1:14:46.250
<v Speaker 2>back in the door. But for the Raiders, the big

1:14:46.290 --> 1:14:48.550
<v Speaker 2>issue for me is along their offensive line. That's where

1:14:48.570 --> 1:14:51.160
<v Speaker 2>they really struggled defensively. last week for the first time

1:14:51.520 --> 1:14:54.440
<v Speaker 2>all season. They only had one offensive lineman. It was

1:14:54.479 --> 1:14:57.700
<v Speaker 2>DJ Glaze, who had a pressure percentage below 12% in

1:14:57.740 --> 1:15:00.219
<v Speaker 2>that game. Everybody else, I mean, I'm talking about quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>pressures allowed.

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<v Speaker 1>Colton Miller, five. Tyler Linderbaum, five.

1:15:03.530 --> 1:15:06.570
<v Speaker 2>Spencer Burford, nine. Jackson Powers Johnson, five. I mean, they're

1:15:06.610 --> 1:15:09.230
<v Speaker 2>just giving up pressures a lot to the Patriots, and

1:15:09.250 --> 1:15:10.870
<v Speaker 2>that was a major issue. If that doesn't get better,

1:15:10.890 --> 1:15:12.630
<v Speaker 2>they're not going to win. This is more of a

1:15:12.650 --> 1:15:14.750
<v Speaker 2>toss-up game than I thought. So give me Buffalo, but

1:15:14.790 --> 1:15:16.730
<v Speaker 2>give me them at the two spot. What about the

1:15:16.810 --> 1:15:20.820
<v Speaker 2>Washington Commanders? and the San Francisco 49ers. What do you

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<v Speaker 2>think about this game?

1:15:22.520 --> 1:15:27.889
<v Speaker 1>I'm really confident in the Niners. I'm also terrified because

1:15:27.950 --> 1:15:31.530
<v Speaker 1>I put it at my 10 spot. Ah, there it is.

1:15:31.670 --> 1:15:34.670
<v Speaker 1>There it is. 10 spots haven't been good for us lately, man.

1:15:34.810 --> 1:15:38.130
<v Speaker 1>Looking at all the games this week and what our

1:15:38.270 --> 1:15:41.760
<v Speaker 1>options were, it's like I could have maybe done Carolina there.

1:15:41.840 --> 1:15:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I maybe could have done the Rams there. Could have

1:15:43.979 --> 1:15:47.590
<v Speaker 1>done the Chiefs there. But ultimately, if we're just looking

1:15:47.620 --> 1:15:50.470
<v Speaker 1>at who is the best team out of those options,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say San Francisco. As far as who can

1:15:53.810 --> 1:15:55.930
<v Speaker 1>I rely on the most to get me a W

1:15:55.970 --> 1:15:58.590
<v Speaker 1>when I absolutely need it because I don't want to

1:15:58.610 --> 1:16:02.110
<v Speaker 1>lose 10 points, it is the Niners this year. They've

1:16:02.170 --> 1:16:05.130
<v Speaker 1>been banged up in typical Niners fashion. They have not

1:16:05.170 --> 1:16:10.490
<v Speaker 1>been completely healthy. It hasn't necessarily mattered that much. Brock

1:16:10.530 --> 1:16:15.030
<v Speaker 1>Purdy has played well. fantastic football all year long. He

1:16:15.090 --> 1:16:18.630
<v Speaker 1>did get got once last week. Mike McDonald got him

1:16:18.650 --> 1:16:22.110
<v Speaker 1>with a really nifty Palms call, picked him off there

1:16:22.130 --> 1:16:24.570
<v Speaker 1>with Nehemiah Pritchett. But other than that, played a really

1:16:24.610 --> 1:16:27.900
<v Speaker 1>efficient game. Mike Evans has just been a godsend for

1:16:27.939 --> 1:16:31.679
<v Speaker 1>this team. Offensive line, at least before the Seattle game,

1:16:31.720 --> 1:16:34.880
<v Speaker 1>was playing really, really good football. The defense, I mean,

1:16:34.920 --> 1:16:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Grayson Halton has just emerged as a force for them

1:16:39.280 --> 1:16:42.599
<v Speaker 1>on the inside. You have great linebackers there, even though

1:16:42.620 --> 1:16:44.640
<v Speaker 1>they are going to be down Dre Greenlaw in this game.

1:16:44.680 --> 1:16:50.380
<v Speaker 1>But I just compare the quarterback play, the talent, the coaching,

1:16:50.439 --> 1:16:52.540
<v Speaker 1>just all three of those things compared to what the

1:16:52.560 --> 1:16:56.620
<v Speaker 1>Commanders are working with right now. Especially situational awareness, the

1:16:56.640 --> 1:16:59.860
<v Speaker 1>difference between these two teams, apparently. I have to go

1:16:59.890 --> 1:17:01.630
<v Speaker 1>with the Niners. I really do.

1:17:02.830 --> 1:17:06.250
<v Speaker 2>I also have to go with the Niners. I only

1:17:06.290 --> 1:17:08.590
<v Speaker 2>have it in my three spot, and it's just because

1:17:08.650 --> 1:17:12.490
<v Speaker 2>I was like, is this a letdown game for San Francisco?

1:17:12.810 --> 1:17:14.290
<v Speaker 1>You know, they're riding high.

1:17:14.850 --> 1:17:18.710
<v Speaker 2>They're coming off of the victory against Seattle. Obviously, the

1:17:18.729 --> 1:17:21.219
<v Speaker 2>commanders are in the exact opposite spot. They should have

1:17:21.260 --> 1:17:23.400
<v Speaker 2>had a victory, and it obviously did not go well

1:17:23.439 --> 1:17:25.580
<v Speaker 2>at the end. You were talking about that situational awareness,

1:17:25.880 --> 1:17:27.479
<v Speaker 2>but they were still there at the end.

1:17:27.820 --> 1:17:29.140
<v Speaker 1>They were forcing the turnover.

1:17:29.180 --> 1:17:31.849
<v Speaker 2>They got the ball back. They marched into field goal position, and.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

1:17:34.040 --> 1:17:36.980
<v Speaker 2>I saw it more explosive plays for them when Jaden

1:17:37.060 --> 1:17:40.200
<v Speaker 2>is back. Jaden was excellent as a scrambler as well.

1:17:40.240 --> 1:17:42.140
<v Speaker 2>I know that the Niners have the linebackers to be

1:17:42.160 --> 1:17:44.650
<v Speaker 2>able to handle that, but I just, again, like I'm

1:17:44.850 --> 1:17:46.210
<v Speaker 2>taking the Niners in this game.

1:17:46.229 --> 1:17:49.370
<v Speaker 1>It was just for whatever reason, I was just like, ah,

1:17:50.370 --> 1:17:50.889
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

1:17:50.970 --> 1:17:53.590
<v Speaker 2>Like I could, I could see Jaden playing Superman and

1:17:53.630 --> 1:17:54.950
<v Speaker 2>almost being like, you know what?

1:17:55.490 --> 1:17:56.060
<v Speaker 1>Screw it.

1:17:56.100 --> 1:17:58.679
<v Speaker 2>Y'all I'm throwing caution to win. We got to start

1:17:58.700 --> 1:18:02.439
<v Speaker 2>winning football games. And, um, I guess it kind of

1:18:02.460 --> 1:18:04.280
<v Speaker 2>has to start this week for them, especially with them

1:18:04.340 --> 1:18:07.610
<v Speaker 2>being pissed off with how last week ended. So I'm

1:18:07.630 --> 1:18:09.930
<v Speaker 2>going to go with the Niners, but I got them

1:18:09.950 --> 1:18:12.790
<v Speaker 2>at three spots. So I'm giving Washington and maybe that desperation.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that might be a theme of some of

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<v Speaker 2>my picks here is some of the desperation that some

1:18:16.460 --> 1:18:18.380
<v Speaker 2>of these teams might have in why I think that

1:18:18.400 --> 1:18:19.920
<v Speaker 2>they're going to get a victory. Last game is the

1:18:19.979 --> 1:18:23.220
<v Speaker 2>Dallas Cowboys and the Green Bay Packers. Dallas coming off

1:18:23.260 --> 1:18:25.860
<v Speaker 2>of a major letdown against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on

1:18:25.880 --> 1:18:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Thursday night football. Packers coming off of a red-hot game

1:18:30.320 --> 1:18:36.330
<v Speaker 2>where they defeated the Chicago Bears by letting Jordan Love just, man, throw.

1:18:36.110 --> 1:18:38.229
<v Speaker 1>It all over the yard, especially deep down the field.

1:18:38.729 --> 1:18:41.550
<v Speaker 2>Do the Cowboys have what it takes to limit Jordan

1:18:41.590 --> 1:18:43.650
<v Speaker 2>Love and what he wants to do with those deep passes?

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<v Speaker 2>Who do you got winning this one, and where is

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<v Speaker 2>it in the confidence for you?

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<v Speaker 1>This is the one game of the week, and I

1:18:49.170 --> 1:18:50.979
<v Speaker 1>seem to have one of these. every single week, where

1:18:51.020 --> 1:18:52.560
<v Speaker 1>I just throw my hands up and say, I got

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<v Speaker 1>no idea.

1:18:55.740 --> 1:18:57.910
<v Speaker 2>We got no idea which version of the teams is

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<v Speaker 2>going to show up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes. I have no clue what we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get from week to week with these teams. And now

1:19:05.120 --> 1:19:08.000
<v Speaker 1>that Mike Pettin's involved and he's going to have influence

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<v Speaker 1>on this defense, I don't even know what they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to look like defensively.

1:19:10.880 --> 1:19:14.220
<v Speaker 2>Not even effectiveness-wise. Scheme-wise, I don't know what they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to look like. Does he have a little bit of

1:19:16.600 --> 1:19:17.059
<v Speaker 2>an input?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, hey, you know what?

1:19:18.040 --> 1:19:20.780
<v Speaker 2>I'd maybe do a little bit here. Are they basically like, hey, buddy,

1:19:20.820 --> 1:19:23.200
<v Speaker 2>you're basically calling things. He's not basically calling things. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying? We've got to install more

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<v Speaker 2>stuff because whatever we've done on defense has not worked

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<v Speaker 2>to this.

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<v Speaker 1>Point in the season. Once upon a time in Philly,

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<v Speaker 1>where Christian Parker came from, And it was Gannon who

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<v Speaker 1>was the DC. Vic Fangio was a consultant behind the

1:19:39.040 --> 1:19:41.320
<v Speaker 1>scenes in Philly. This was like before he took the

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<v Speaker 1>Miami job. And he had major input on the defense,

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<v Speaker 1>even though he was living across the country over in

1:19:47.670 --> 1:19:50.269
<v Speaker 1>Northern California. But as a consultant, he would roll into

1:19:50.310 --> 1:19:54.350
<v Speaker 1>his office at Stanford every single day and give real

1:19:54.560 --> 1:19:56.519
<v Speaker 1>actionable insights on what they should do. And they were

1:19:56.560 --> 1:20:00.809
<v Speaker 1>really good defense consultants. So I don't know how much

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<v Speaker 1>input he's going to have here, but they didn't announce

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<v Speaker 1>that they hired him for nothing, right? Like clearly he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be involved. And so I don't know what

1:20:09.050 --> 1:20:11.490
<v Speaker 1>this defense is going to look like. I also don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the Packers offense is going to look like.

1:20:13.479 --> 1:20:16.580
<v Speaker 1>Is this offensive line terrible? Are they good? We get

1:20:16.640 --> 1:20:19.400
<v Speaker 1>different results from week to week. Maybe they'll settle somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle, but I don't know what version of

1:20:21.360 --> 1:20:23.220
<v Speaker 1>this Packers offensive line we're going to get either. So,

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<v Speaker 1>It's a battle between two teams that I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a good read on. When they're at their best, they

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<v Speaker 1>can score on anyone. I'll say that about both of them, really.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe this is like a 33-31 type of game.

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<v Speaker 1>But it could also very easily be kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>that slop fest we saw against Dallas, where the Cowboys

1:20:44.430 --> 1:20:47.689
<v Speaker 1>just can't get going and they just can't get their

1:20:47.729 --> 1:20:49.880
<v Speaker 1>defense off the field. And we end up with a

1:20:49.910 --> 1:20:54.560
<v Speaker 1>low possession count, low scoring defense. kind of weird to

1:20:54.600 --> 1:20:57.860
<v Speaker 1>watch game. That's like 17, 15 in the fourth quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>It could go either way here. I have no clue.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking Dallas.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel good about it. Okay. And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I put it at the two spot.

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<v Speaker 2>I also took Dallas and I put it at the

1:21:09.490 --> 1:21:12.890
<v Speaker 2>one spot. So just very similar reasons of we have

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<v Speaker 2>seen the best and the worst of these teams five

1:21:17.189 --> 1:21:19.670
<v Speaker 2>weeks into the season. And that's such a small sample

1:21:19.729 --> 1:21:23.059
<v Speaker 2>size to see such a strong variance of teams. that

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard to be able to predict what we are

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<v Speaker 2>going to see here. Especially, it might be a little

1:21:28.030 --> 1:21:31.210
<v Speaker 2>bit easier to predict if there wasn't the Mike Patton

1:21:31.250 --> 1:21:36.030
<v Speaker 2>domino in there. But truly, who knows what's going to

1:21:36.070 --> 1:21:38.290
<v Speaker 2>happen in this game. But give me Dallas. I'll take

1:21:38.330 --> 1:21:41.180
<v Speaker 2>the Dallas Cowboys. Those are our 10. 10 up and

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<v Speaker 2>10 down. That's our confidence rankings.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Very fun show.

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