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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from how Stuff Works

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and there's Jerry over there,

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<v Speaker 1>which means it's time for stuff you should know. He's

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<v Speaker 1>the He's the DJ, I'm the rapper. Who's the DJ?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you remember? That was the first, first or second

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<v Speaker 1>d J Jazz Jeff and the Fresh Prince album. Now

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't need them. Everybody was totally confused as to who

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<v Speaker 1>was who, so they actually named their album He's the DJ,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the rapper, and like Will Smith is pointing at

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<v Speaker 1>himself and pointing at Jazz Jeff. And then their newest

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<v Speaker 1>album is called He's the movie Star. I'm the one

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<v Speaker 1>who asked you if you want fries with that soda?

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<v Speaker 1>Poor jay Z Jeff. That's so mean. I'll bet he's

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<v Speaker 1>a like a successful producer. I bet he is totally

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<v Speaker 1>successful and probably way more successful than me. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just a jerk. It's a little late now, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it would be funny. And I also insulted

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<v Speaker 1>fast food industry workers too. It's like that that one

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<v Speaker 1>Simpsons where somebody I think was calling Homer a chicken,

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<v Speaker 1>and some giant chicken walks over and goes he's insulting

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<v Speaker 1>the both of us. This show just gave and gave

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<v Speaker 1>and gave for decades. I think DJ Jazzy Jeff, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking right now. I think he's still uh a DJ

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<v Speaker 1>record producer and still a DJ called like DJ DJ. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just mean. Sorry, Jazzy Jeff. You know who's not mean? You? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty mean? Okay. Um, A kid named well, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to call him a kid. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>call him a kid because he's younger than me. But

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<v Speaker 1>he's a dude now. Yeah, his name is Rob Brian Hart. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not Rob Reiner, No, no, no, no adult Rob Brian Hart.

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<v Speaker 1>Although he had a movie called When Harry Met Soilent.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty good. That was good. And you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ashamed to say, I didn't even see that coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Was so bad. Emily always laughs when I left. She

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<v Speaker 1>always like, you really cracked yourself up, didn't you. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just be walking down the hall laughing at myself

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<v Speaker 1>and she that's a way to say, Chuck's drunk. Chucks drunk,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're not as funny as you think you are. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I see what you mean. Yeah, you really crack yourself up.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you should say, somebody's got to alright, Soilent, this

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<v Speaker 1>is not a paid promotion for soiling Let's go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and just get that out of the way. No, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's they're they're it's gonna pay off for him big time. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're gonna talk a lot about a specific brand,

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<v Speaker 1>but um, I think it's worthwhile because it is the

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<v Speaker 1>innuine I think it's a genuine revolutionary product in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of ways. And it's not an endorsement. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying it's really super unique. Yeah, it's not not to

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<v Speaker 1>endorse or whatever, but it's probably the single greatest thing

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<v Speaker 1>humans have ever invented. Have you ever had it? Have I?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? I have not. Actually I wanted to try

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<v Speaker 1>it today. But you can't just go down to the

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<v Speaker 1>corner store and get it. No, you can't. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to order Soilent from their website, soilent dot com or Amazon.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, I didn't know you could get it on Amazon. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they you can get it there. Now, that's good. The

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<v Speaker 1>prices have come down from so we're working from an

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<v Speaker 1>article we should say from probably two fourteen in tech

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<v Speaker 1>industry years, that's like ten years ago. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>definitely a cornerstone of the tech industry. And what we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about is, is well a food replacement UM called

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<v Speaker 1>soilent or not a food replacement? Well, yeah, originally it

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<v Speaker 1>was intended to be a food replacement or a meal

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<v Speaker 1>replacement or no, I guess it was originally intended to

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<v Speaker 1>be a food replacement where you could just live off

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<v Speaker 1>of this stuff you didn't need other food. And then

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<v Speaker 1>now it's intended to be a meal replacement where you

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<v Speaker 1>would eat other food, but you could say, have this

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<v Speaker 1>instead for lunch or whatever. Yeah, or you could eat

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<v Speaker 1>it along with your meal. Sure, Like let's just call

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<v Speaker 1>it beige food. Yeah, my liquid state, Yeah, pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>entirely liquid. It's like pancake batters. That what I kept

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<v Speaker 1>running across the consistency, And I mean, doesn't everyone I

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<v Speaker 1>want to drink pancake batter. I've been known to take

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<v Speaker 1>a sip of pancake battery. It sounds really gross. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't tried it, and I really wanted to, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, for this, but um, we may or may

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<v Speaker 1>not get Um. Our colleague Jonathan Strickling here. It just

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<v Speaker 1>depends on if we can find him. Uh, he's been

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<v Speaker 1>he was being tattooed by NASA the other day. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>that happened. Huh, not by NASA, but sort of with

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<v Speaker 1>NASA for NASA, under NASA's supervision. Maybe. I mean he

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<v Speaker 1>got a tattoo for work via NASA. Yep. Um. So

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen him since then, But if we can

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<v Speaker 1>get him in here, he did the soilent thing for

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<v Speaker 1>a while. Uh, and he loves to talk, so he

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<v Speaker 1>would be good. As a matter of fact, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>add a thirty minute silent part here, but we can

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<v Speaker 1>insert what he'll say after we introduced him. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I did not get to taste it, but it has

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<v Speaker 1>been likened to everything from pancake batter two um, meta

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<v Speaker 1>musel or cream of wheat or a tasteless milkshake. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>although they do have flavors out now, which we'll get to.

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<v Speaker 1>But um. What the original intent of soilent taste wise

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<v Speaker 1>was that it was just really just neutral and bland

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<v Speaker 1>for the purposes of we don't want people to get

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<v Speaker 1>sick of eating this. Yeah, and probably the best meat. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly that if you don't have a taste, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>really get sick of a taste, right, But I disagree.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he could totally get sick of this. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but it also is something of a blank slate that

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<v Speaker 1>people can add their own tastes and flavors to, like

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<v Speaker 1>maple syrup or fruit or peanut butter or something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which I didn't think about. That's a great idea, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So they specifically wanted to create this product for a

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<v Speaker 1>number of reasons. And like I said, that guy who

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<v Speaker 1>I said was nice, he actually is nice. From the

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<v Speaker 1>Broad a New Yorker profile of him, SAME's Rob Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Hart And um, he actually he went to tech. He's

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta, boy, Yeah, And he was in San Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>working at a tech startup out of his house with

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<v Speaker 1>some of his roommates. And he decided that um, eating

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<v Speaker 1>was taking up way too much of his time and money, time, money, effort. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just something he wasn't very interested in. And

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<v Speaker 1>he also was, um, I think concerned with exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>he was eating. I think he was just basically living

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<v Speaker 1>off a ram And he said, which is not the

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<v Speaker 1>healthiest thing you can possibly eat sure. So he decided

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<v Speaker 1>to take a little time and research nutrition and how

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<v Speaker 1>it relates to human physiology. And he had this idea

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<v Speaker 1>that if you could get rid of the unnecessary parts

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<v Speaker 1>of food, like food is kind of a clunky, inefficient

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle for delivering nutrients. If you could get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>the clunky part and just have the nutrients, you could

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<v Speaker 1>you could live fairly healthily on just the raw materials

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<v Speaker 1>of food that we need from food, right, just the nutrients. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I can save money, I can save time, um

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<v Speaker 1>from going to the grocery store and cooking and cleaning,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can get everything I really need to have

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<v Speaker 1>a genuinely healthy diet um right here in this. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess i'll call it a drink. I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>goes down like a drink, right, Yeah, okay, so we'll

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<v Speaker 1>call it a drink. But it's not to be confused with.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there have been all kinds of meal replacement

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<v Speaker 1>drinks over the years, uh, from like insurer to slim

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<v Speaker 1>Fast and muscle milk, Yeah, protein shakes and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not that this is supposed to give you

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<v Speaker 1>everything you need in your body for a meal. Yeah, nutritionally.

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<v Speaker 1>Other meal replacement drinks are meant to be meal replacements, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you couldn't get enough nutrients from your food

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<v Speaker 1>because you're recovering from surgery, you need an extra bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Your doctor may say, like drink and ensure every day whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Or like you said, protein chakes like muscle milk. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're a weightlifter, you need uh hit a protein after

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<v Speaker 1>you work out, you you will probably drink some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of protein shake afterwards. Right, So there's very specific um

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<v Speaker 1>reasons for the meal replacements or supplements that have been

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<v Speaker 1>invented up to soiling. What's that soiling apart was that

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<v Speaker 1>it was created intentionally to be a replacement for food,

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<v Speaker 1>Like this was all you needed. You never needed to

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<v Speaker 1>eat food again. All you had to do was eat

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<v Speaker 1>soiling every day, every day, and and ingeniously, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he intended to even he was just looking

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<v Speaker 1>for something for himself. He wasn't looking to change the

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<v Speaker 1>food industry or to start a company. I don't think,

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<v Speaker 1>not of a food company. But he very ingeniously started

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<v Speaker 1>a blog against when thirteen called how I Stopped Eating Food,

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<v Speaker 1>which is super grabby on the internet. Title wise, like

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<v Speaker 1>someone's going to see that and go, well, what in

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<v Speaker 1>the world is this all about? And that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It went viral, it blew up. He detailed on there

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<v Speaker 1>that he lost weight. He said his intellectual and athletic

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<v Speaker 1>performance improved. He said he spent a lot less money

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<v Speaker 1>on groceries, but he put he put athletic and scare quotes.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, if you know what I mean, because he

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<v Speaker 1>did go to tech and he was a software engineer,

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<v Speaker 1>I meant sex. But yeah, yeah, the other way that

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<v Speaker 1>joke worked. He said he spent a lot less money

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<v Speaker 1>on groceries and he only spent about five minutes a

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<v Speaker 1>day making this stuff. And he described it as a

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<v Speaker 1>quote sweet succulent, hearty meal in a glass end quote,

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<v Speaker 1>and people were all over it. He said, like after

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<v Speaker 1>a week he would see ads for food and it

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<v Speaker 1>would just be nauseated by him. He any that he

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<v Speaker 1>came to crave um the soiling, which wasn't called soilent

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<v Speaker 1>at that time. No, he did call it soilent. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he didn't call it until he like got

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<v Speaker 1>the Kickstarter. Going from what I saw, I actually saw

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<v Speaker 1>that blog post, and I believe he calls it Soilent

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<v Speaker 1>in it. Okay, well whenever he got it, he got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Spoiler alert by the way, upcoming. There was a movie

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy three called Soilent Green, very famous, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of classic cult classic sci fi movie with Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>Heston and the big reveal and soil it's about this, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this future world, this dystopian society where um, these people

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<v Speaker 1>are fed these rations and in the end you realize

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<v Speaker 1>that's it's revealed that people are eating other people. Soilent

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<v Speaker 1>Green is people people, right, so um. And for that reason,

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<v Speaker 1>because that was just such a famous ending, Like if

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<v Speaker 1>that actually spoiled the movie for you, like, let us know,

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<v Speaker 1>so Chuck can come hit you with a hammer because

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<v Speaker 1>everybody knows the ending of the twist and Soiling Green. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just you know, but he he yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>That was nice of you. See you're not a mean person,

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<v Speaker 1>You're nice. Um. The he he was lobbied by investors, friends, family,

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's like, you gotta change the name of Soilon. But

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<v Speaker 1>he would explain to him, it's actually not based on

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<v Speaker 1>the movie. He's based it on the book that was

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<v Speaker 1>the source for the movie Soiling Green. The book was

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<v Speaker 1>called Make Room, Make Room, and it was written by

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<v Speaker 1>a guy named Harry Harrison, and it's it was basically

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<v Speaker 1>about overpopulation and in the book that people are fed soilent,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a food made of soy and lentils, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what he based it on, was that book, not

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<v Speaker 1>the the food being made from people, which apparently the

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<v Speaker 1>makers of the movie used some pretty deep artistic license

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<v Speaker 1>to totally alter it at the end. Yeah, So it

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<v Speaker 1>started out nerdy, and it got nerdier because he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually a deep cut right exactly from make Room,

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<v Speaker 1>Make Room exclamation points. But he he um, he did

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<v Speaker 1>detail in this blog post, and I'm pretty sure he

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<v Speaker 1>did call it soiling in it, and he thinks very clever.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was a really kind of a funny

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<v Speaker 1>wink to call it that. Sure, but he um. He

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<v Speaker 1>posted the recipe that he went by in a follow

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<v Speaker 1>up post and it's still up there. You can go

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<v Speaker 1>see how to make soilent yourself, And as a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of fact, a lot of people do. There's this um

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<v Speaker 1>subculture of d i y soilent enthusiasts, people who are

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<v Speaker 1>like so into it that they're creating their own blend

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<v Speaker 1>for themselves from scratch self soil enters, yep, soilent preppers.

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<v Speaker 1>So he started that Kickstarter got about three million bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh because people thought it was a cool idea. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>submitted it to the f D A right, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>that went whatever, but they classified it interesting instead of

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<v Speaker 1>a dietary supplement. They said, now this is a food

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<v Speaker 1>like knock yourself out, NERD go get sued. We don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he got a co packer, Rosa Labs in

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<v Speaker 1>l A and um, they produce it for him still

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<v Speaker 1>and people started eating or drinking this stuff up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean especially other um people who work twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>hours a day um and didn't want to be bothered

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<v Speaker 1>with having to eat because they didn't really care about

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<v Speaker 1>food and or they were like, all I'm eating is

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<v Speaker 1>mac and cheese, Like what what am I doing? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm gonna care that little about food, then I

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<v Speaker 1>might as well eat something that's healthy that takes even

0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.760
<v Speaker 1>less time to make them mac and cheese and just

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<v Speaker 1>the whole um. Uh. The mentality behind soil it really

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<v Speaker 1>like tapped a nerve and that stuff took off like

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<v Speaker 1>very quickly. Um. They started selling like thirty thousand units

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<v Speaker 1>of it a month. I guess packets a month by

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand fourteen, and it was it debuted. The first

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<v Speaker 1>shipments sold. They're shipped in May of two thousand fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>so like within seven months they were selling thirty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>units a month. Yeah, it went gold right away. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like round and round by. We'll take a break

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<v Speaker 1>here and um I'll see if I go find Strickland

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll be right back. No, no Strickland yet. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he has not appeared since the New year. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's in Las Vegas right now? Right? Oh was he

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<v Speaker 1>at c E S. Well, that makes sense. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>read my company blog. Uh yeah I did. Actually I

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<v Speaker 1>did see that on our internal blog, right that we

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<v Speaker 1>all post our daily goings on and last each other

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<v Speaker 1>so silent. Uh. Again, we said that the taste isn't

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<v Speaker 1>the big thing. Um, but they really aim to just say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's convenient, you're gonna save some money. And if you're

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like you said, if you're someone who doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>put so much care into what you're making for yourself,

0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:26.840
<v Speaker 1>like you could like you said, you could eat nothing

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<v Speaker 1>but this, but even the owner said, like you could

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<v Speaker 1>but like, what do you want to food is great? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And they've walked that back tremendously. I think the more invested. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the more they've walked that back. So originally it was

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<v Speaker 1>and he would give interviews and just tell everybody like, yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you can you can just live off of this indefinitely

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<v Speaker 1>if you want. Now they say it's not intended to

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<v Speaker 1>replace every meal, but it can replace any meal. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a really good I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>they've if they've tapped into the doomsday prepper segment, but

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<v Speaker 1>like this seems to be the kind of thing that

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<v Speaker 1>somebody could and should have, like in the trunk of

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<v Speaker 1>their car or along with their canned goods and roll

0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:18.520
<v Speaker 1>of masking tape. Yeah, you know, I mean I literally

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<v Speaker 1>when I read this, I was like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't mind having a case of this in my trunk.

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<v Speaker 1>Be a disaster, Yeah, pick up check that doesn't work,

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<v Speaker 1>but you never know. I mean, I doubt if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>ever gonna be like lost in the wilderness, but if

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<v Speaker 1>i was, it'd be nice to have food for a week. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for food for a week. I mean, these

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<v Speaker 1>the sealed packets, unopened apparently last for a year. Al right,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'd have to on day three sixty four every year,

0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I'd have to drink them and get some new ones.

0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:56.440
<v Speaker 1>You'd have to drink nine months worth of food on

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<v Speaker 1>one day if you're a heck of a New Year's Eve.

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<v Speaker 1>So we are officially on version one point seven. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that as of about two weeks from this recording ago,

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<v Speaker 1>they issued one point seven And as of a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days ago, they introduced two new flavors um Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's soilent two point oh. Oh is that official? Yeah,

0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:22.439
<v Speaker 1>that's like um as technically a separate product. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>pre mixed soilent drinks. All they have. They've had those

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<v Speaker 1>in in the natural flavor since the beginning though, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>is there right? I thought they just started with powder

0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:35.840
<v Speaker 1>and then came and added the drink, and then now

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<v Speaker 1>they added those two flavors to the drink. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the new flavors are new. They've had the drink for

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<v Speaker 1>a while. And they also now have a bar, a

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<v Speaker 1>soilent bar that's unavailable right now. And about why in

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, because it's quite interesting. I did not

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<v Speaker 1>know that um do they have the coffee ist is that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's out. So that's soilent in a bottle with caffeine. Yeah,

0:18:57.400 --> 0:18:59.600
<v Speaker 1>so that's your morning. Well, I guess whenever you want

0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.600
<v Speaker 1>the calf angeled, I would say morning, but you never

0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.840
<v Speaker 1>know what your schedule is. That that sounds dangerous because

0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like this is food, right, and people have

0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:11.000
<v Speaker 1>a tendency to pound coffee. You don't want to pound

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff like you'll gain weight. I mean, I guess

0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:15.560
<v Speaker 1>if you're trying to gain weight, sure do it, but

0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:20.600
<v Speaker 1>like this is this is the stuff is engineered to

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<v Speaker 1>be just what you need to sustain you or maintain

0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:25.680
<v Speaker 1>your weight. Or I guess if you wanted to gain weight,

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<v Speaker 1>you just drink more of it pounded, you know, supposedly

0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:31.439
<v Speaker 1>lose a little weight if you go like a soiling

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<v Speaker 1>only for a few weeks. But it's all anecdotal. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they make any claims. No, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>so either. So they're on one point seven now and

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<v Speaker 1>each version supposedly they just you know, they're tweaking the recipe.

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<v Speaker 1>They're listening to people, which sounds like the right thing

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<v Speaker 1>to do, Like it sounds like they're really listening to people,

0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:53.040
<v Speaker 1>and people are saying, oh, it's um, it's too thick,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't like one point six, So they'll say,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, a little xanthem gum take that out. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They switch the primary source of fatty acids from fish

0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:06.080
<v Speaker 1>oil to algible oil. But now I think the algae

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<v Speaker 1>oils out now right, No, no, so the alga oils in.

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<v Speaker 1>And they actually the reason why they switched out of

0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:15.439
<v Speaker 1>fishal well two reasons. It made it vegan when they

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<v Speaker 1>change from fish oil to algible but they also like

0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:23.480
<v Speaker 1>it it um has far less of an environmental impact

0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:26.800
<v Speaker 1>algae um farming does, but they even took it a

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<v Speaker 1>step further, and they're not using oil from farmed algae.

0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:33.920
<v Speaker 1>They're using oil from bioreactors, which take up even less

0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:37.840
<v Speaker 1>space and use less energy for algible oil production than

0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:40.919
<v Speaker 1>farming does. Right, So they're really like trying to narrow

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<v Speaker 1>the impact environmentally that this stuff has. Yes, And the

0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:50.160
<v Speaker 1>reason why is it is very much linked to our

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<v Speaker 1>artificial sweetener episode. Somebody introduced whole algile flower to the market.

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<v Speaker 1>UM as I think a thickener. I think it also

0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:05.080
<v Speaker 1>is an emulsifier UM, and it just creates a pleasant

0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:10.280
<v Speaker 1>mouth feel. I think um. And it's also somewhat nutritious supposedly,

0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:14.480
<v Speaker 1>but it also can make people violently ill. And so

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<v Speaker 1>all of soilent one point six had to be suspended,

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<v Speaker 1>including the bar. That's why the bar is not available

0:21:20.800 --> 0:21:25.160
<v Speaker 1>any longer. Um because it all contained this whole algile flower.

0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:27.720
<v Speaker 1>They had to basically stop selling it, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>tinkered with it, and that's why one point seven came out. Uh, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if if you're if you don't know much about soilent

0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:39.080
<v Speaker 1>and you're literally screaming at your at your car radio

0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:42.960
<v Speaker 1>right now or wherever you're listening, but what is it really?

0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:47.199
<v Speaker 1>Then tell them what it's mainly derived from. Oh, it

0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:50.480
<v Speaker 1>is soy protein. They replaced the brown rice and the

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<v Speaker 1>oat flour and potato starch, and rice starts with basically

0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:57.320
<v Speaker 1>just soy soy protein, another a couple other carbohydrates, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's mainly soy, just a soy based meal, soy algeil

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<v Speaker 1>oil um, something called um I so malt malte loose.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a which they synthesize from beats. It's a carbohydrate

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<v Speaker 1>but also a bit of a sweetener, canola oil. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they took it. I think they took that out

0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:24.800
<v Speaker 1>and the reason. Okay, so there is rice starching it.

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<v Speaker 1>They definitely took the brown rice, the oat flower, and

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<v Speaker 1>the potato starch out. Because if you go to their website,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so cool. At the very bottom the bottom navigation,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll they'll say release notes, and it will bring up

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<v Speaker 1>PDFs of the notes about what they changed and why.

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<v Speaker 1>UM for every single version of UM soiling, so it'll

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<v Speaker 1>say we took this out because we found that this

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<v Speaker 1>is actually better for the environment, or that this delivers

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<v Speaker 1>the vitamin that we're trying to get better, or UM

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<v Speaker 1>for whole algile flower. They said that they removed it

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<v Speaker 1>to improve customer experience, which means not making you violently. Yeah,

0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:11.840
<v Speaker 1>it's I mean, like I said, it sounds like they're

0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:16.360
<v Speaker 1>they're continually striving to get it right. Yeah, but they're

0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:20.960
<v Speaker 1>also more than that, they're also sharing what they're doing

0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:23.040
<v Speaker 1>because the whole thing was kind of based out of

0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:27.040
<v Speaker 1>that open source tech ethos, and so they've kind of

0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:30.600
<v Speaker 1>maintained that open source thing ever since. They're just very

0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:33.480
<v Speaker 1>transparent as a company. Yeah, looking at the as of

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<v Speaker 1>January third, nutritional facts and one bottle fo calories one

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<v Speaker 1>grams of total fat two grams of saturated fat. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is for the the regular natural, right, so I

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<v Speaker 1>keep calling natural? Is that what they call it? Uh? Original?

0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:58.879
<v Speaker 1>Let's just say non flavored yet original a ridge. How's that? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Cholesterol nocles are all which they've had from the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>ugrams of sodium, thirty six grams total carbs, three grams

0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:12.920
<v Speaker 1>dietary fiber, nine grams of total sugars, nine grams of

0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:17.080
<v Speaker 1>added sugars, and then uhs of protein, and a whole

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 1>host of vitamins and minerals. Yeah, and those vitamins and

0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:27.200
<v Speaker 1>minerals are important. That the essential nutrients UM, which are

0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:30.879
<v Speaker 1>nutrients like vitamins and minerals that our bodies need but

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:35.159
<v Speaker 1>can't make. UM. They apparently went to the n I

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<v Speaker 1>H and the FDA and several other UM groups and said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what does the human body need to function

0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:45.280
<v Speaker 1>and thrive? And they that's what they put in there.

0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:48.639
<v Speaker 1>They have this blend of vitamins and nutrients that they

0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:53.080
<v Speaker 1>include as part of the recipe for soilent. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that soilents I don't want to I guess

0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:59.119
<v Speaker 1>criticized for, I guess, but more one of the concerns

0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:02.680
<v Speaker 1>that people who are skeptical about it have is that

0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:08.080
<v Speaker 1>it um it doesn't have any non essential nutrients, which

0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:11.520
<v Speaker 1>are nutrients that your body can make itself, like cholesterol

0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:14.199
<v Speaker 1>that has zero cholesterol, but your body can make its

0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:18.399
<v Speaker 1>own cholesterol. And that was a deliberate move on Reinhardt

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:23.240
<v Speaker 1>and his his UM co founders parts that they decided

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 1>that they didn't need non essential nutrients, that it was

0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:30.440
<v Speaker 1>UM something that our bodies already make and so therefore

0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:34.080
<v Speaker 1>it was UM redundant basically to add this stuff in,

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:37.959
<v Speaker 1>because this is just the basic bear minimum that you

0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:41.359
<v Speaker 1>need for to to be healthy and thrive. But some

0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 1>people are saying, well, these things are also found in

0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:46.880
<v Speaker 1>nature in our food, and we take them in and

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:49.359
<v Speaker 1>we don't really know enough about nutrition and how it

0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 1>affects the human body to say you don't really need

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:56.040
<v Speaker 1>to take in from the outside any non essential nutrients.

0:25:56.080 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 1>So people are saying, we're gonna have to see over

0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 1>the course of year is what kind of effects this

0:26:01.600 --> 0:26:05.320
<v Speaker 1>has on people UM who are just eating soil, and

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<v Speaker 1>if those people do exist, you know, five ten years

0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 1>from now. Yeah, and especially if that's something that you

0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of touted or not you. But he touted to

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<v Speaker 1>begin with, which is, hey, man, theoretically you could just

0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 1>eat only this. Yeah, but I mean he was like this,

0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 1>this twenty something dude who had a really great idea,

0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:24.760
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't care about what the investors were saying,

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:28.080
<v Speaker 1>and and he cared about people's health. He wasn't doing

0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:30.879
<v Speaker 1>it to be like a huckster or snake oil sales

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:33.439
<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. You know, he was just not

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 1>watching his p's and ques like somebody who was from

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:39.199
<v Speaker 1>a PR department might ask him to. All right, well,

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:41.920
<v Speaker 1>let's take another break and I'm gonna We're gonna walk

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:45.440
<v Speaker 1>to Las Vegas. Get them. I'm gonna see if Strickland's

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:47.480
<v Speaker 1>up for this. Go get that guy, and I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>right back in about ten days. Hey, and put twenty

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<v Speaker 1>on black for me. M alright, good news, bad news.

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I owe you forty dollars man. No wait, no, that's good. Yeah,

0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were paying me back with interest. Bad

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<v Speaker 1>news is I couldn't find Strickland in Vegas. Actually, if

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:33.040
<v Speaker 1>we can't find Strickland, this is just hot off the

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 1>presses our buddy Joe ran dazz oh yeah, currently uh

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:41.480
<v Speaker 1>of at midnight Fame he drank soil it for a

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:44.760
<v Speaker 1>little while, yeah, and asked him. I texted him for

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 1>a description, and this just came in and he said, uh,

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>it tasted like the devil's chalk. But some reptilian part

0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:56.960
<v Speaker 1>of me appreciated obtaining sustenance without having to worry about

0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:02.399
<v Speaker 1>flavor or preparation. Basically, space stationed serial killers should like it,

0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:07.439
<v Speaker 1>and no one else. That's our that's our Joe, all right.

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:09.640
<v Speaker 1>So if you want to buy someone, like I said,

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:12.120
<v Speaker 1>you can get on Amazon. Now. I think it's only

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:16.119
<v Speaker 1>available in the USA and Canada still though, unless that's changed,

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I did not see that. But what what you can

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:24.919
<v Speaker 1>do is you can buy the pouches of powder and

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:28.439
<v Speaker 1>mix it where you can buy the bottles um and

0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 1>you can get subscriptions that cut a little of the

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:34.800
<v Speaker 1>price off depending on how much of this you want

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 1>to drink, and that is up to you, as a

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 1>human being to decide how much of this kind of

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 1>nasty stuff. And I've heard our buddy Joe Randazza had

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 1>some of this too, and I tried to get a

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 1>quote from him on what he would describe the taste,

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 1>and he hasn't replied yet, but I've heard some people

0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 1>say like, oh, it's really not that bad, and I've

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 1>had heard other people say like it's disgusting and you'd

0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 1>really have to choke it down. So I guess there's

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 1>a spectrum. I I mean, I guess I saw a

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 1>couple of quotes like that, But for the most part,

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:13.240
<v Speaker 1>it seemed like people were surprised by how either neutral

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>or strangely yeah, strange, strangely um alluring the taste was. Yeah,

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:22.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't heard that. There's this. There's a great New

0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Yorker article that profile I mentioned earlier UM called I

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 1>think it's called the End of Food. It's from two

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 1>thousand before team when this was like at the peak

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 1>of its buzz um and Lizzie Wincombe, who wrote the thing,

0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 1>try soiling herself and it's weird. I think she actually

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:42.720
<v Speaker 1>says she starts to crave the taste after a while,

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>but then some of her colleagues give these pithy quotes

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:48.920
<v Speaker 1>about what it actually tastes like, but they weren't actually

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 1>trying it, you know what I mean. She she was

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 1>actually trying to like, subsist on it for a little while.

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:57.480
<v Speaker 1>She apparently came to like it interesting I'm curious about

0:29:57.520 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 1>its longevity. Like, when something like this comes out, I

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 1>definitely see the allure of it becoming the rage for

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 1>a while. But and and I think one of them

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:12.240
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about what a dietitians think. But um, one

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:15.640
<v Speaker 1>of the allures of food is is food and sit

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:18.800
<v Speaker 1>and making it and sitting with friends and the wonderful

0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 1>taste that you get any experience you get of breaking

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:24.600
<v Speaker 1>bread with one another. And this really throws all that

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:28.720
<v Speaker 1>out the window. Um, you can't romanticize sitting down with

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 1>a soilent shake and your friends, even if they all

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 1>have one on their plate, it's just not the same.

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 1>And nor do nor do they say it is the same. Um.

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 1>But it makes me wonder like, once this initial fad

0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 1>wears off, what will it become? You know, it's bizarre.

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 1>I just realized something. Well, you were saying that that

0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:51.520
<v Speaker 1>this is the opposite of what we were saying. One

0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 1>of the problems with artificial sweeteners is so instead of

0:30:55.440 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 1>exciting the gustatory response of your reward pathway for meeting food,

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 1>all this does is um create satiation. So you're you're

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:08.480
<v Speaker 1>full from it, but you're not enjoying tasting it or

0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 1>eating it or smelling it or looking at it or

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 1>thinking about it. So it's the exact opposite where artificial

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 1>sweeteners excite that that um, that gustatory sensor um, but

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 1>don't fill you up. This does the exact opposite well,

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:25.400
<v Speaker 1>And then I wonder what kind of effect that can

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 1>have on your body, Like it does it dull that

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 1>and kill that gustatory response, or does it make it

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 1>so that when you do eat something, it's just like, wow,

0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe the taste of the strawberry, and I

0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know I um I that I've read about this

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 1>this guy um, his name's Angus Barbieri and he's a

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Scotsman from nineteen sixty six. I think he was in

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 1>his early twenties, and he went three hundred and eighty

0:31:56.400 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 1>two days without eating a thing. He was under the

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 1>supervision of some mad scientist doctor who was giving him

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>like vitamin supplements and monitoring him. But he survived just

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 1>on these vitamin supplements and coffee, tea and water for

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>more than a year. And the reason he did it

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 1>was he weighed four hundred and fifty six pounds and

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 1>he was like, I'm tired of it I want to

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 1>get down to one eighty and he did. Um. But

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 1>he on the day he he broke that two day fast,

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:28.120
<v Speaker 1>he had a boiled egg, I think a piece of

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 1>buttered toast, and I think some coffee, and he said,

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed the egg very very much. So I would

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>guess that that you if you did eat soiling, if

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 1>you ate like a whole food, you would find it

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 1>pretty rewarding, whereas if you ate like a synthetic food

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:47.040
<v Speaker 1>like junk food or whatever, you'd probably be like, oh

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>my god, this is terrible, you know, but I'll bet

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 1>that strawberry would taste pretty good. Well if you ask

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 1>a dietician. And we didn't do a pole, but um,

0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I think this one. Dr joy Do Boast, spokesman for

0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 1>the Academy of Nutrition and diet Tetics, Um not tnatics.

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I saw her quotes from this article, but then I

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 1>saw a lot of other ones, and they have kind

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:16.880
<v Speaker 1>of all been in line, which is basically like, yeah,

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, sure this stuff is okay and you can

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 1>use it to a certain degree, but we don't. There

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>just aren't studies like no one's gonna come out, No

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 1>scientists is gonna come out and say yeah, you could

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 1>live on this stuff for a year, because they just

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:36.640
<v Speaker 1>haven't done these peer reviewed studies and these long term

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 1>risk and benefit analyzes don't exist. So no, no scientists

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 1>is gonna come out like and put their name behind

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:46.720
<v Speaker 1>it in that kind of way, right exactly. But it's

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 1>like you said, like even if they would, even if

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 1>they were like, you know what, this is, fine, go

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:53.320
<v Speaker 1>ahead and do it forget food, there's something missing, Like

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 1>there's that communal experience like you were saying, there's that

0:33:56.680 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 1>the relaxing act of cooking. Um. Like I I understand

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 1>feeling like it's your burdened with it sometimes when you're

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 1>under the gun and you you have to eat, but

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 1>just getting everything ready and cooking it and then cleaning

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 1>up afterwards is it can be a total pain. So

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:18.319
<v Speaker 1>I understand the sentiment behind it. But I also would

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:24.359
<v Speaker 1>never replace food entirely ever. Never. Yeah, well of course not, um,

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:27.879
<v Speaker 1>because we're normal people. Um. But the other thing Dr

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Doubos says, which I think is a very huge point,

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 1>is that what they've done is, I mean, there aren't

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 1>a hundred different types of soilent depending on what kind

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:40.439
<v Speaker 1>of person you are. They basically said, this is just

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 1>your basic nutrition for your average person. It's one size

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 1>fits all and nutrition she said, they're making nutrition on

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:51.799
<v Speaker 1>one size fits all approach. The nutrition just doesn't work

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:55.239
<v Speaker 1>that way. So depending on your age, your lifestyle, how

0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 1>active you are, what kind of like you know, maladies

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:03.760
<v Speaker 1>you have in your life. Um, it's and and again

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 1>they're not claiming to do that. Like all they're claiming

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:08.839
<v Speaker 1>is to do what it is, which is, Hey, we're

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna make this thing. It might be good for some

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:16.959
<v Speaker 1>people to use. Sometimes we'll probably keep you alive. I thought,

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:19.239
<v Speaker 1>there's so. I also remember I was talking about the

0:35:19.400 --> 0:35:22.160
<v Speaker 1>non essential nutrients that aren't in there, and people are

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 1>wondering what effect that might have. There's also another um

0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 1>thing that that's missing that's kind of subtle, but it

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:31.840
<v Speaker 1>might have an impact. This Japanese study found that it

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 1>seems the art or not the art, but the act

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:38.759
<v Speaker 1>of chewing has some sort of benefits. So like it

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:44.879
<v Speaker 1>has a stress reduction and um, it also probably controls

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:48.279
<v Speaker 1>the amount of glucose entering your blood by just kind

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 1>of unlocking food slowly by chewing it into smaller and

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 1>smaller pieces. And you don't do that with drinks like soilent.

0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 1>You just get hit with it all at once, so

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 1>there's a big flood of your of nutrients into your bloodstream.

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 1>And fortunately with that stuff, it's it's good stuff. But um,

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 1>like if if they were saying like, the sugar probably

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 1>has a greater impact on you than the same amount

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:17.359
<v Speaker 1>of sugar delivered through solid food because it just hits

0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:22.319
<v Speaker 1>you faster and so your your levels increased. Quicker about that.

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Either I'm gonna get some, are you going to? Yeah,

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get some and just have it on hand.

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 1>And I mean it beats driving to McDonald's If I

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:34.319
<v Speaker 1>don't have any food. Sure, you know you should hide

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 1>it in the wheel well or your spare tire. Well.

0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I do have a pickup truck, so I have no trunk,

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:45.000
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. Uh, I guess it's underneath. I

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 1>gave away your hiding place. Now my hiding place is

0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:50.440
<v Speaker 1>actually behind the rear seat. Oh gotcha. That's a good one.

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:53.320
<v Speaker 1>No one will ever find anything there, and there you

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 1>will find. It's pretty salacious, but you'll find bungee cords

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:02.759
<v Speaker 1>and jumper cables in John Strickling. Yes, have you got

0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:05.799
<v Speaker 1>anything else? No? Unless we insert Strickland, which would go

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 1>right here. But if not, um, we'll just end it. Well,

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:14.560
<v Speaker 1>let's find out right now. Nope, we didn't. Oh well, um,

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 1>I should probably say chuck. And we probably should have

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 1>said this fairly early on. We have like no um

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 1>uh financial interests in soilent whatsoever? We even backing on Kickstarter, No,

0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I got I got no interest other than wanting to

0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:34.040
<v Speaker 1>taste this, uh this junk. Yeah, all right, if you

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 1>want to know more about soilent, type that word into

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:39.919
<v Speaker 1>the search bar how stuff works dot com. And since

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 1>I said search bar, it's time for a listener mail. Uh.

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:47.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, it wouldn't surprise me if Reinhardt listens to

0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 1>the show. Oh well, if he does, what's up, dude? Yeah,

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:52.839
<v Speaker 1>so at the very least we might get a case

0:37:52.840 --> 0:38:00.279
<v Speaker 1>of this stuff at the office. Oh boy. And UM,

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call this, well, I'm gonna call this one

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:08.279
<v Speaker 1>of what maybe several breastfeeding email replies. Uh. First of all,

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:10.799
<v Speaker 1>we did a show, two parter on feeding babies. First

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:14.600
<v Speaker 1>part was on breastfeeding, and we were both nervous, and

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I have to say it went great, and we've been

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:21.919
<v Speaker 1>getting great feedback and I'm super proud of these episodes. Yeah,

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:24.800
<v Speaker 1>they're good. Based on the feedback we've been getting very supportive,

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 1>which makes us feel good. Yeah, we were pretty tense alright,

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:31.239
<v Speaker 1>So this is one of those Hey guys. Uh. Plus

0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:33.400
<v Speaker 1>she has a great name. I know you're worried about

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:35.880
<v Speaker 1>getting tons of attack emails for doing an episode and breastfeeding,

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 1>but our promises isn't mean smiley face. I listened to

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 1>the episode right after I got home from breastfeeding Glass.

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:46.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm currently pregnant do on February. Uh so, man, this

0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:49.440
<v Speaker 1>is gonna come out probably about a month before that.

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:54.560
<v Speaker 1>And she does a big scream and anticipation. I took

0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 1>a class through my local hospital on breastfeeding to prepare you. Guys. Uh,

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:01.120
<v Speaker 1>you had really great thing to say about breastfeeding, and

0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:04.080
<v Speaker 1>it pretty much lined up with what the lactation consultant

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:06.680
<v Speaker 1>running the class had to say. I'm so glad that

0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:09.279
<v Speaker 1>you tackled tackle the issue, especially because you are men

0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:12.080
<v Speaker 1>um even though I know it scared you. The lactation

0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:15.279
<v Speaker 1>consultant said, the biggest barrier to women breastfeeding is not

0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 1>having a supportive partner, uh, which I don't get that

0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:21.680
<v Speaker 1>at all. Um. Hopefully with your podcast you read some

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 1>partners out there who will now be more informed and

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 1>better able to support the new mother in their lives.

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I hope so too. I was so glad that you

0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:32.919
<v Speaker 1>mentioned the war over feeding currently going on as well.

0:39:32.960 --> 0:39:35.719
<v Speaker 1>Formula is also a great option for feeding babies. No

0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 1>matter what militant moms have to say, just feed your baby.

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Keep up the great podcasting. And her name is Claire Victory,

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 1>and boy, she's so close to being named declare Victory.

0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I hadn't thought about that, and she said

0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:57.560
<v Speaker 1>ps and never offended. By the way when you say guys,

0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:00.040
<v Speaker 1>I hope others aren't either. I feel like you've have

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:02.640
<v Speaker 1>gotten to the point where guys is gender neutral. Sure

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:05.520
<v Speaker 1>we're making that our mission in life, I hope. So. Yeah.

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Well thanks a lot, Claire, Yeah. Uh, we appreciate a

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:13.359
<v Speaker 1>big time. And thanks to everybody who sent us notes

0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:16.359
<v Speaker 1>of support for that one, because they are very well

0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:19.919
<v Speaker 1>received by us and clear good luck yeah yeah, best

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:23.919
<v Speaker 1>wishes to you, Yes, good luck how it goes well. Uh.

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:25.440
<v Speaker 1>If you want to get in touch with us, like

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Claire Victory did, you can tweet to us. I'm at

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:32.200
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