Speaker 1: What's up, guys, it's your West Coast and this is
Speaker 1: Kohlie with with eating while broke up. So today we
Speaker 1: are going to be having chanel West Coast? What are
Speaker 1: you cooking for us today? I'm cooking with case to Dilla.
Speaker 1: I'm not the best cook, but you know I could
Speaker 1: whip up a good case Todia. So I'm making a
Speaker 1: cause to dilla with pepper jack, cheese, butter and tapatio.
Speaker 1: So where'd you learn this? Um? Just like I think
Speaker 1: I learned it from being a friends houses honest weeping,
Speaker 1: because like I grew up here in l A and
Speaker 1: like I had a lot of messan friends and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just kind of like the afternoon snack. Yes, it
Speaker 1: was like, hey, we're going over to Sarah's house. I
Speaker 1: have a lot of a lot of different friends growing up.
Speaker 1: But yeah, let's see here. You need this graded. So
Speaker 1: I do the grocery shopping for the show, and no,
Speaker 1: sounds crazy here. I don't want to. Oh I'm not
Speaker 1: even gonna be shredded. So I didn't know. Do you
Speaker 1: want me to like help shredd? Yeah? Can't you? Because
Speaker 1: I'm not like good at at using the shredder. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I would just cut it and put like
Speaker 1: little slams if he right on there? You know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I was like, where's the pepper jack shredded cheese?
Speaker 1: You know? So tell me how did you get your
Speaker 1: big break? Like, oh, it's such a long story, but
Speaker 1: really I got I guess you have to say. I
Speaker 1: got my break through my MySpace music page. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: I basically started like wrapping and singing when I was
Speaker 1: a teenager, and then I made my Space being page,
Speaker 1: and uh, from that page, that's how I met robbed
Speaker 1: your deck, So that page? Yes, what did he like
Speaker 1: my space too? Like it's such a it's such a
Speaker 1: long story, like I basically met his cousin. Let me
Speaker 1: make sure I'm not burning this one on. How hot
Speaker 1: is it? I'm just keeping on low for right now.
Speaker 1: That's plenty of cheese for I think, just to start
Speaker 1: places like it looks good. Yeah. So yeah, And I
Speaker 1: used my mindspace to like just like network and like
Speaker 1: I wouldn't sit there adding people all day long. And
Speaker 1: one of the people I added was Rob's cousin, Drama.
Speaker 1: And then I became friends with like Drama and like
Speaker 1: his boys, and I then met Rob through them and
Speaker 1: it's a long yeah, it's a it's a really long story,
Speaker 1: but like I'm trying to make it shut um. And
Speaker 1: like they had heard about me, like because I was
Speaker 1: already pursuing rapping, and like everybody, I think kind of
Speaker 1: like thought it was funny. I was just like little
Speaker 1: white girl who wrapped. They were probably like, who what
Speaker 1: does she? Like? They thought I was crazy, I think, um,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, they told Rob about me, and pretty
Speaker 1: much that's how it happened. Yeah, and then I asked,
Speaker 1: like I asked Rob to come to one of my shows.
Speaker 1: I had some my little show where you have to
Speaker 1: like sell your own tickets to perform, and like I
Speaker 1: get these I would get these those shows on my
Speaker 1: crickslist and ship just so I could like try to
Speaker 1: perform somewhere. And basically, uh, I asked for all to
Speaker 1: come to a show one day and he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't make it, but he was like, UM, did
Speaker 1: you want um, I want to put you on an
Speaker 1: episode of my new show. And so I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: like let's do that a su yeah yeah, and so
Speaker 1: uh so then I went to go do one episode
Speaker 1: and that was my first day of Fantasy Factory. Now
Speaker 1: that the landscape for women rappers is way more competitive. Um,
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure if you're still signed a Young
Speaker 1: Money are you know, I'm independent, But that's a whole
Speaker 1: long story. I was never like officially signed. I was
Speaker 1: like Young Money by affiliation, and Wayne like gave me
Speaker 1: the co signers. Oh ship, that's a big pepper. I
Speaker 1: was like, what's the cheese anyways? Um? Yeah, so Wayne
Speaker 1: gave me the Coast sign and then there was just
Speaker 1: all these complications with my deal getting done and it
Speaker 1: was held up forever, and I kept getting all these
Speaker 1: excuses from like the lawyers and my old management, and
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was just like I guess not
Speaker 1: the right timing or whatever. But like me and Wayne
Speaker 1: are still cool. Um. But yeah, I'm independent. I like
Speaker 1: fully fund everything I do and like make all my
Speaker 1: own decisions and all that. That's awesome. And there's a
Speaker 1: lot of like behind the scenes that you have to
Speaker 1: deal with, especially with like cash fill right, I would imagine,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, like in the pandemic. That made it even
Speaker 1: harder because normally like as an independent artist, it's it's
Speaker 1: actually I mean, I love it because I don't have
Speaker 1: to um pay anybody back, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like when I do these gigs, the money goes in
Speaker 1: my pocket like or that, you know, my my agents,
Speaker 1: whoever books the gig or whatever. But um yeah, when
Speaker 1: you're with the label, they get a huge piece of
Speaker 1: everything you do. And so uh, I feel that I'm
Speaker 1: really smart with how much I spend and how much
Speaker 1: I make back, like you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: during the pandemic, that's when it got a little hard
Speaker 1: because it was like I wanted to put out my
Speaker 1: album that year. I'm like, this is a great year
Speaker 1: to put out music. You know, people are at home,
Speaker 1: all lives are like ready, you know, so it's like,
Speaker 1: this is a great time to put out music. But
Speaker 1: um uh, there was no gigs. So I'm putting all
Speaker 1: this money into videos and photo shoots and studios time
Speaker 1: and you know stuff like that, and and so I
Speaker 1: had to invest a lot and then I wasn't able
Speaker 1: to make as much back. So now I'm like trying
Speaker 1: to because you were releasing it even through the pandemic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh that's yeah, that's a tricky situation. Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: realized the pandemic was a good time to put out music,
Speaker 1: especially because people who were signed to labels were a
Speaker 1: little bit held up, probably because things were shut down.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, I'm independent, nobody's good to be back.
Speaker 1: I need to drop this now while everybody's at home
Speaker 1: like needing new content. Um So it was a good
Speaker 1: time to invest in myself. I feel like and invest
Speaker 1: in my music just now I got to recoup and
Speaker 1: and like get all these gigs and get the money back,
Speaker 1: you know. So that's a lot of like behind the
Speaker 1: scenes business stuff. Now. Was there ever a point in
Speaker 1: your career where you're like, that's it. I may just
Speaker 1: tap out, Like, um, I wouldn't say, I Like, there's
Speaker 1: been times where I'm like, I don't want to pursue
Speaker 1: I will always make music as a hobby, like that's
Speaker 1: just what I do. Like I've been writing poetry making
Speaker 1: little songs since I was a kid, like for fun,
Speaker 1: Like that's just what I do. It's like what I
Speaker 1: do when I'm board, Like it's my hobby. Um but
Speaker 1: there was a part a part of me that at
Speaker 1: one point I was like, I don't want to pursue
Speaker 1: this and keep putting money into this, you know, like
Speaker 1: make songs for fun, maybe just put them out on SoundCloud,
Speaker 1: like who cares? You know what I mean, not even
Speaker 1: try type thing. There was a time when I started
Speaker 1: to feel like that, and I was like I should
Speaker 1: invest all my money into real estate and do other
Speaker 1: business ventures. And I'm like, no, you know what, I
Speaker 1: can still invest in real estate, still do other things,
Speaker 1: and still invest in my music. There's there's a time
Speaker 1: and place for everything, you know. So it's just um
Speaker 1: about spacing it all out the right way, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? And you still take ridiculousness yep, NonStop, NonStop,
Speaker 1: Like what does your schedules look like? Yes, like we
Speaker 1: filed six episodes a day, three days the leaks, so
Speaker 1: like yesterday I did six episodes. Tomorrow I do six episodes,
Speaker 1: and then um next and then I'm off for two
Speaker 1: weeks and then we go back to filming again. And
Speaker 1: now you don't film all years, like two weeks out
Speaker 1: the year or three weeks. No, we film all year,
Speaker 1: no way, Like it's like I'm off two weeks, then
Speaker 1: I filmed two weeks, and I'm off two weeks. And
Speaker 1: I filmed two weeks and I'm off two weeks, which Um,
Speaker 1: for trying to travel anywhere abroad not easy. I've basically
Speaker 1: never been fucking anywhere. But yeah, because it's like I
Speaker 1: want to when I finally travel, I want to travel
Speaker 1: and like be able to see Europe and all these
Speaker 1: places like I want to go over like two days. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and now with COVID and getting tests to go to
Speaker 1: all these different trees and like, you know, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a lot. So where have you traveled so far in
Speaker 1: my life? Mexico, Scotland, the Philippines, Spain. Colin sounds interesting.
Speaker 1: Colin was interested. It looked real old. There was castles everywhere,
Speaker 1: like yeah, like literally there's like all these castles that
Speaker 1: you can rent on like Airbnb, Like they're literally like
Speaker 1: literally little castles. But a lot of them don't have
Speaker 1: a lectricities. But yeah, their streets are like all cobblestone.
Speaker 1: It looks like you're, you know, like in the past. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so in the industry, as far as girls, do
Speaker 1: you feel like the women supports you? Um, I definitely
Speaker 1: have a lot of like women artist friends. Do all
Speaker 1: of them know? Yeah? No, you know, I think it's
Speaker 1: really important as a woman artist to support other women artists,
Speaker 1: and there are some that are just a little bit
Speaker 1: more catty and that are more competitive and like whatever,
Speaker 1: Like that's cool. They can be like that, you know.
Speaker 1: So like everybody has their own personality. Yeah, yeah, So
Speaker 1: where do you want to go next from here? Definitely?
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I'm at a point in my life,
Speaker 1: especially after the pandemic, where I think just being healthy
Speaker 1: and happy are the two most important things. And healthy
Speaker 1: I mean like physically and mentally, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like like those are the two most important things to
Speaker 1: me at this point. So I don't want to do
Speaker 1: anything that's gonna like make me stressed out or give
Speaker 1: me anxiety or like I get anxiety real easy. So
Speaker 1: like it's like it's you know, it's just a point
Speaker 1: in my life where it's like it's not worth the
Speaker 1: extra stress. I'm gonna keep making music, I'm gonna keep
Speaker 1: doing me, but I'm not gonna like overly stressed about
Speaker 1: things like I like I used to, And I'm just
Speaker 1: kind of like going with the flow. Now. Did you
Speaker 1: go through any type of depression during the pandemic or
Speaker 1: were you like just really it was more anxiety than depression,
Speaker 1: because I feel like I used the time wisely, and
Speaker 1: I liked having that time off. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is great to have this time to like really
Speaker 1: focused on my craft. And like, you know, I was like,
Speaker 1: we couldn't get nails done for like three months, so
Speaker 1: I used to play violins. So while I didn't have
Speaker 1: my crilics, I was like, let me just get on
Speaker 1: the violin again. I was about these nails. As soon
Speaker 1: as the nails a lotto back up, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: put the violet. But yeah, you know that it was
Speaker 1: funny to use that time and and I didn't get
Speaker 1: really depressed, but I did get a little bit of
Speaker 1: anxiety because I like to be around people and and I,
Speaker 1: you know, I just felt like I was just like
Speaker 1: in my house so much that I started to go
Speaker 1: a little bit crazy. You don't have any like friends,
Speaker 1: secret get togethers oh we got a few, okay. Now,
Speaker 1: in the beginning of the pandemic when everything first started,
Speaker 1: were you like, I don't know if I believe this
Speaker 1: or were you one of those people that were like
Speaker 1: I believe in a PC. I went through I went
Speaker 1: through my phases, I went through my face. The first
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, I was like cleaning door knobs like.
Speaker 1: I was like, literally, like so scared. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is like the zombie apocalypse or something. I was
Speaker 1: one of those people I did like horn toilet paper.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, you're tewed up like, I was like,
Speaker 1: this is the womb the list. I didn't know what
Speaker 1: the hell was going on, and um and I had
Speaker 1: so I'm pretty sure I had COVID before the lockdown,
Speaker 1: and so I had had it like a month before
Speaker 1: that made it through it. It was like I thought
Speaker 1: I was gonna die though, And so once the lockdown
Speaker 1: happened and I knew what was going on, I was
Speaker 1: like like I felt like I was a liability or
Speaker 1: something too. I was like I gotta stay inside. Like
Speaker 1: I feel like I was a super spread when I
Speaker 1: had it, because I'm one of those people that work
Speaker 1: through being sick. So when I had it, it was
Speaker 1: a weird sickness. It went through like a couple of phases.
Speaker 1: So I went to a video shoot. I went to
Speaker 1: a photo shoot, Like did you tape ridiculousness? No, I
Speaker 1: didn't take ridiculousness until I was gonna say, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: if you got sick, you know, But like a couple
Speaker 1: of people from the video shoot I did and from
Speaker 1: the photo shoot had got sick, and so they told
Speaker 1: me later when I told him, I said, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I had it around them. They're like, girl, a
Speaker 1: couple of people got sick after that. You I think
Speaker 1: you were spreading it. And so so I definitely was
Speaker 1: like at the beginning of the pandemic, like super on lockdown,
Speaker 1: like and then I'm not gonna lie. I heard this
Speaker 1: Burger King commercial and that should tripped me out and
Speaker 1: I was like brainwashed us. I was like there, so
Speaker 1: I'm cleaning my house and I hear on the Burger
Speaker 1: King commercial they go, America needs you to stay on
Speaker 1: your couch. I was like, what, Okay, stay inside that's
Speaker 1: one thing. Keep your social distance that's another thing. Stay
Speaker 1: on your couch. Those lines hit me hard because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I might have relaxed a little
Speaker 1: bit during the pandemic, but I was still staying busy,
Speaker 1: staying on my grind like he's this time and I'm like,
Speaker 1: stay on the couch. And I was like, m there's
Speaker 1: something going on. They're trying to keep us at home
Speaker 1: and keep us lazy, like I was like they're trying
Speaker 1: to make us sick. It's a Burger Key commercial saying
Speaker 1: stay on your couch, you know. Like so I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just started being like, okay, maybe this is like
Speaker 1: some weird thing to like I don't know, like I'm
Speaker 1: you know, not a conspiracy theories. But I was just
Speaker 1: like I just started questioning things, you know, and um,
Speaker 1: I also just was like that looks good. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's done. Good. Feed me now, feed me chanel Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I went through my phases. I went through
Speaker 1: my phases. Awesome, it looks so good. I definitely made
Speaker 1: sure to stay healthy and like you worked out a lot,
Speaker 1: worked out a lot. I was juicing, taking vitamins. I
Speaker 1: was following like all the rules. Um. I get tested
Speaker 1: a lot for work too, so it's like I constantly
Speaker 1: no negative, you know, like we're getting tested when we
Speaker 1: film like every like forty eight hours. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: went through the pandemic and I thought I was gonna
Speaker 1: survive not catching COVID, and then I randomly took my
Speaker 1: cousin in um who like many went through like a breakup.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's all I'm doing. I'm not bold, I'm crazy,
Speaker 1: I know. Oh my gosh, like is it it's not
Speaker 1: hot hot? Oh jeez, Well if you end up going
Speaker 1: up on the show, just you know, I mean laugh.
Speaker 1: I'm one of those people like if you get hurt,
Speaker 1: I'm laughing. That's fine, Okay, keep going on. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I had called COVID and I knew me really because
Speaker 1: there was like body aches and fever and just I
Speaker 1: started having all these symptoms and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't believe I called it. And my cousin at
Speaker 1: the time was like, you don't have it. And I
Speaker 1: was like, dude, you need to get tested because he
Speaker 1: came in sick. And then I tested positive and I
Speaker 1: was like oh. And I was apart from my husband
Speaker 1: at the time. I'm like I didn't see him for
Speaker 1: a month and now I got to go longer. That sucks.
Speaker 1: And I was like counting down the days so I
Speaker 1: can be uh COVID free, you know. But um, when
Speaker 1: it first happened, I thought, like the economy. I was like,
Speaker 1: there's no way they can lock down all these businesses
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. I was actually shocked at that
Speaker 1: was possible. Obviously it failed history, you know, because apparently
Speaker 1: in history they did it again? You know, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden you were researching when the pandemic like this
Speaker 1: ever happened before. Yeah, yeah, it's happened. Yeah yeah. But
Speaker 1: I didn't really take it serious until like my money
Speaker 1: started to disappear and I was like, okay, can I
Speaker 1: get a job somewhere? No, it's like that's that's another thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been hard to see. Like, I see it's good.
Speaker 1: You like it, Thank you, Thank you for feeding me.
Speaker 1: On the topic, it's like hot, but I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's the cheese that's hot or the tap of
Speaker 1: to you you mean it's hot. Yeah, sorry, I really
Speaker 1: like spicy stuff. I'm probably over here like dripping capaccio.
Speaker 1: So have you had like men just do some ridiculously
Speaker 1: over the top stuffhen you're trying to get business done
Speaker 1: or trying to push you around like um, like even
Speaker 1: for me and as a woman in business, like sometimes
Speaker 1: you have to for lack of better word, like become
Speaker 1: a bit just to get some kind of respect to
Speaker 1: get a job done. And it's like you have to
Speaker 1: turn all the way up because they think yourself. Do
Speaker 1: you have to deal with that a lot? Or um,
Speaker 1: let's just say that I've never like I've always been
Speaker 1: like a tomboy too, so I've had like a lot
Speaker 1: of guy friends, like I've never until I was like
Speaker 1: twenty five, I didn't really like notice sexism. I didn't
Speaker 1: like to see it was a thing. And then things
Speaker 1: started to occur to me like oh, that's sexist, all
Speaker 1: that's sexist and like and then once I started to
Speaker 1: realize that I was experiencing things like that, it started
Speaker 1: to build up. You know. Like I'm good at like
Speaker 1: I'm good at like maneuvering through the business and like
Speaker 1: keeping my mouth shut when I need to do whatever,
Speaker 1: but there has been times where I've had to really
Speaker 1: speak up and and be like the situation sexist. And yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's not easy to do that, you know, especially
Speaker 1: because it's like I've heard people be like, oh, this
Speaker 1: person they are crazy about a guy, like you know
Speaker 1: that the celebrity or whatever. But but that's that's how
Speaker 1: he like, you know, you know, like that's like how
Speaker 1: he makes the magic happen or something. And it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: but if a girl were to act crazy like that,
Speaker 1: they call her a diva, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But um, so like that I think that there's like
Speaker 1: these double standards and I don't know, I have had
Speaker 1: to kind of find my voice to speak up a
Speaker 1: couple of times, like yeah, that's that's I think a
Speaker 1: difficult balance for a woman a name with the me too,
Speaker 1: a movement they it was, it was, it is great.
Speaker 1: But then there's also like always a catch to every
Speaker 1: great thing where it's like we don't want to abuse
Speaker 1: the power either. But then again, I think guys are
Speaker 1: now terrified to so you've been like, look at a
Speaker 1: girl's but or something. They're like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: compliment you. Is it okay? No? No, literally there is
Speaker 1: people like that and I'm like, yeah, it's fine, Like
Speaker 1: I don't mind somebody telling me. I looked pretty like yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that's was not weird about it, like sniffing
Speaker 1: my ear at the same time or something like what
Speaker 1: was like something you invested in that or that didn't
Speaker 1: pan out the way you wanted and you felt that hit.
Speaker 1: I had won a little venture I started with my
Speaker 1: friend and really we both had high hopes. You know,
Speaker 1: she's just not a single mom. She's a mom with
Speaker 1: two kids, and she has a nine to five job
Speaker 1: and I'm really busy myself. But we had wanted to
Speaker 1: start like a jewelry line, and we invested some time
Speaker 1: and money into it, and it just it didn't pan out.
Speaker 1: But I think it's because we we really both didn't
Speaker 1: have the time that each of us needed to put
Speaker 1: into it, you know. And that was one that was
Speaker 1: one thing that did like not really pan out. It
Speaker 1: kind of failed. But um, from that, I learned, okay
Speaker 1: with the next thing I start. After that. The next
Speaker 1: thing I did start was my clothing line, L Cartel,
Speaker 1: and that's done much better and I didn't the same mistakes.
Speaker 1: And you know, do you think time is more important
Speaker 1: than money when it comes to business? Um? What do
Speaker 1: you mean exactly? Like, do you like you were saying,
Speaker 1: like when you and your friend did this, you guys invested,
Speaker 1: but you didn't really have the time to invest into it.
Speaker 1: Do you think your time is more important than the
Speaker 1: actual capital that you put in? Yeah? Well, time is
Speaker 1: definitely important. It doesn't matter how much money you have
Speaker 1: if you're not going to take the time to do
Speaker 1: what you have to do to promote it or to
Speaker 1: send the packages out when people make the orders. You know,
Speaker 1: So there's got to be the follow up. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Um so, yeah, so it's important to
Speaker 1: have the right team and the right structure around you
Speaker 1: when you're starting a business like that. And that's what
Speaker 1: I realized, and I've told her too, for if for
Speaker 1: the future, if we start another thing together, like we
Speaker 1: just need to make sure we have more hands on
Speaker 1: deck instead of trying to take on so much ourselves.
Speaker 1: But we don't have the time for it, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think it's cool that you guys did do
Speaker 1: you kind of did learn that lesson because sometimes people
Speaker 1: look at like celebrities are you know, and they say, oh,
Speaker 1: well you're rich, you have this huge, big team And no, right, No,
Speaker 1: I didn't come from any big team. Like I was
Speaker 1: like telling, um, I throw his name was like, I
Speaker 1: who walked me in here? What's his name? I was
Speaker 1: telling Drew, were just walking in here? I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I said, we were kids and said we used to know,
Speaker 1: like you don't get caught shop lifting? It sity mall?
Speaker 1: Why because it was just easier here like the other malls. Like, oh,
Speaker 1: you mean you just don't get caught here? Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: here's like an easy place to like as a kid,
Speaker 1: I don't steal anymore. Obviously that would be great. I'm
Speaker 1: not wondering a writer. Okay, that would be crazy if
Speaker 1: I was still unger steal. But as a kid though,
Speaker 1: like you know, we we don't. Me and my friends,
Speaker 1: we were all like broke kids and a lot of
Speaker 1: single parents, and you know, as kids to you want things,
Speaker 1: there's like let me steal a shirt or whatever. Like
Speaker 1: so like we were a little bit of like little
Speaker 1: badasses with your kids. Um. But yeah, so like I
Speaker 1: don't come from nothing, the same with my friends, and
Speaker 1: that's why I wanted to start that with my friend Roxy,
Speaker 1: because you know, like we all started from the bottom
Speaker 1: and come from nothing, and I really do, like you know,
Speaker 1: even um with projects I'm working on now that are
Speaker 1: still in the works, Like I want to see like
Speaker 1: my girl Danielle, who's here with me, that's been my
Speaker 1: homies since high school too, Like you know, I wanna, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to do I want to put on like
Speaker 1: whatever real friends, And that's also been a challenge, is
Speaker 1: figuring out who's real and who's not. But all my real,
Speaker 1: genuine friends, like I want to be able to help
Speaker 1: them in any way. I can like, you know, like
Speaker 1: if they have a dream and like there's some way
Speaker 1: I could help, Like I want to help them. You know.
Speaker 1: Did you ever have any real friends switch up on you? Yes?
Speaker 1: And when you when I say switched up, Like, do
Speaker 1: they become weird after you make it? Or do you
Speaker 1: think they're just all of a sudden there like opportunity opportunity,
Speaker 1: Like how does it look? Uh, it's it's uh, it's crazy,
Speaker 1: like it's happened over the past year and a half. Actually,
Speaker 1: it's like I've been like I feel like I've just
Speaker 1: been cutting people off left and right, like split into
Speaker 1: like like just like out of here. Um. Really, what
Speaker 1: it is is like I think that they like. The
Speaker 1: craziest thing is people tell me I don't support them
Speaker 1: enough for something like and I'm like what more to like?
Speaker 1: It's like I like, if I see the picture, I
Speaker 1: like it, you know what I'm saying, Like, if I
Speaker 1: saw it, I like this, Like it takes five seconds
Speaker 1: to like. I'm a very giving liker when it comes
Speaker 1: to the likes, you know, so in my opinion, if
Speaker 1: I if I'm liking or commenting, ever like that support
Speaker 1: you know, I can't sit here and like hold your
Speaker 1: hand and like, you know, it's like you, I don't
Speaker 1: even want to get into it because I don't know
Speaker 1: actually want to you and be like, hey, did you
Speaker 1: like this? No, Just like people just saying that I
Speaker 1: haven't supported them enough for something, and it's like I'm
Speaker 1: a very supportive friend. I've let people live with me
Speaker 1: for free and like you know, done lots of nice
Speaker 1: things for people, and somehow still I feel like it's
Speaker 1: not enough. People want more, They want you to do
Speaker 1: more for the of And then also like just people
Speaker 1: trying to say like things about you that aren't true,
Speaker 1: which is the craziest thing I've dealt with. I never
Speaker 1: thought that people that I couldn't be friends with like
Speaker 1: since childhood could start saying just like things about your
Speaker 1: character and stuff that like are not true. And I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: this is getting out of hand, like to like your
Speaker 1: other friends, just the other yeah, mutual friends, you know.
Speaker 1: L A is a small world like that, Like it's
Speaker 1: very like it's it's so funny how spread out it
Speaker 1: is here, but then like things travel so fast here.
Speaker 1: I think it's even worse, like into New York and
Speaker 1: New York it's like you're on the small little freaking
Speaker 1: island and like and there's boroughs and they're all close.
Speaker 1: It's so close together, but things still spread like that
Speaker 1: they're here, it's so spread out, like we're you know,
Speaker 1: Ella is a big city and things travel fast here
Speaker 1: and people I've I've heard just like that's why I
Speaker 1: started cutting people off. I heard this person said that,
Speaker 1: Like what do you call him out there? And You're like, hey,
Speaker 1: did you say it? No? Yes? Or yeah, like double down,
Speaker 1: like yeah, I said it. It's it's just crazy, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I didn't think people could just
Speaker 1: like it's like kind of delusional, like they're in their
Speaker 1: head thinking things that are not true, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like, so that's that's where I'm at, Like
Speaker 1: it is like I'm just trying to figure out who's
Speaker 1: real and who's not. And I definitely have some really good,
Speaker 1: genuine girlfriends, like who've been there since day one and
Speaker 1: guy friends, um, but there's been a couple of people
Speaker 1: who are like just bad scenes that I had to
Speaker 1: get rid of. Yeah, I've gone through some of that recently.
Speaker 1: Even with family. Sometimes family X switches up and that's
Speaker 1: difficult because you know, and I think a part of
Speaker 1: maturing it is like figuring out how to set those
Speaker 1: boundaries and when to set them and not feel bad
Speaker 1: about them, Like do you ever feel bad afterwards? Like, man,
Speaker 1: I feel so bad a little, a little, but also
Speaker 1: like like I said, I'm at that point where it's
Speaker 1: like I just want to be happy and healthy and
Speaker 1: mentally healthy and whatever is gonna be good for my
Speaker 1: mental wellness, That's what I have to do, and you know,
Speaker 1: it is what it is. I always wonder like if
Speaker 1: I send a DM to someone like I really you know,
Speaker 1: like there's some entrepreneurs online. I'm like, hey, you know what,
Speaker 1: do you want to come check out eating? Of course
Speaker 1: it's a weird thing to say, but I was wondering
Speaker 1: if they're actually reading it or some people do, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean I can't read everything, especially because Instagram, which
Speaker 1: like I don't know somebody who works for them is
Speaker 1: watching this. But my d ms do this weird thing
Speaker 1: where like, for example, will be like a million messages
Speaker 1: from from an hour ago, two hours ago, three hours ago,
Speaker 1: for and then all of a sudden, after seven hours ago,
Speaker 1: it jumps to like three days ago, and I'm like
Speaker 1: where the messages go that whole time. You know. So
Speaker 1: I lose a lot of messages and I don't know why.
Speaker 1: It's this like weird Instagram error. So I because once
Speaker 1: I noticed that, I started checking them even more because
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, dang, I guess I gotta check my
Speaker 1: to just NonStop just to catch things, you know. Um.
Speaker 1: So so once I noticed that, now I check it
Speaker 1: even more. But I didn't used to check it that much.
Speaker 1: I would just try to do like a quick scroll through.
Speaker 1: If I see a couple of nice ones, repost them,
Speaker 1: or you know, try to reply to a couple of
Speaker 1: nice ones and you see maybe anybody popping with a
Speaker 1: blue check stry side of my decos. I am looking
Speaker 1: for a husband, you know, so occasionally I check. But
Speaker 1: like so you think if you would consider someone like
Speaker 1: a guy that slid into your d M. It depends
Speaker 1: who it is. And yes, there's been a lot of
Speaker 1: crazy so that I had to be like, no, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna give a chance. What advice would you give
Speaker 1: to someone that is trying to pursue the entertainment industry?
Speaker 1: Like knowing everything you've been through, the ups the downs,
Speaker 1: what keeps you on track? Like what advice would you
Speaker 1: have you clung to the number will No, I went
Speaker 1: to the number one thing. I mean, there's definitely a
Speaker 1: few things, but say them all. First of all, I
Speaker 1: would say it's important to never get ahead of yourself
Speaker 1: and think like you're such a superstar that you don't
Speaker 1: need a regular job. That's number one. I agree with that.
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people and that's like
Speaker 1: a couple of these friends who switched up, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe made some weird comments like oh, well, you know
Speaker 1: you have everything handed to you. What Then I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: you met Rob and there was like I'm like I
Speaker 1: sat there on my Space adding people all day long.
Speaker 1: That's how that's got me to Rob. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And it's like, you know, people just like anyways,
Speaker 1: I just got I got lost in my thought again
Speaker 1: because I just got something about agree with the day
Speaker 1: job thing. Like a lot of like while we're doing
Speaker 1: eating while broke, a lot of people don't know this,
Speaker 1: Like I have a day job, I have my side hustle,
Speaker 1: and then I have this And I'm sure when this
Speaker 1: comes out, people are gonna be like, Okay, let's just
Speaker 1: fell out this guy. It's like, no, I still have
Speaker 1: some money. Yeah, still trying to manage all this Yeah no,
Speaker 1: And people don't realize you like you can't. Like I
Speaker 1: always worked hard, Like when I was in season two
Speaker 1: Fantasy Factory, it was a lot of filming and MTV
Speaker 1: did not pay that well. Like it was like almost
Speaker 1: like you know, these hours and this money, this doesn't
Speaker 1: add up. I was like, this is crazy. So I
Speaker 1: had to get a part time job and like and
Speaker 1: that's also one of the first things that I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I think I'm getting famous or something, because like I'd
Speaker 1: be at work holding T shirts at a clothing store
Speaker 1: and can I get a picture with you? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: look at my boss and like can I can I
Speaker 1: take a picture of whatever? Boss? Like one day he's
Speaker 1: like he's like, you know, Chandelle, He's like, I think
Speaker 1: you're like getting kind of popular, like maybe you should
Speaker 1: like do some other things or something. He's like, I
Speaker 1: don't think you belong in like the clothing store. And
Speaker 1: I was like, but I need this money, like I'm
Speaker 1: trying to get money, like you know. So like no
Speaker 1: matter what, I always was like I always even sometimes
Speaker 1: now I'm like there'll be days or too often I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: I wish I had some sort of hustle. I was like,
Speaker 1: maybe I should my real estate license, like you know,
Speaker 1: like it's just like I like to work and I
Speaker 1: like to hustle, and I think that, um that sometimes
Speaker 1: people don't think, oh, there's such a star that they
Speaker 1: that they don't have to like work, and they think like, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm so talented or I'm so cute. You know
Speaker 1: that I don't have to work. And you should never
Speaker 1: be like that. You should always you always got to
Speaker 1: put in this. You got to match the work with
Speaker 1: with your talent and with your cuteness. And you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Um, I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: get ahead of themselves. I've seen it. That's the advice
Speaker 1: I give to like a lot of my young friends
Speaker 1: I see coming up in Hollywood, Like they get a following.
Speaker 1: The next thing, you know, they're like, no job, like
Speaker 1: just like and I'm like, yo, like keep us a
Speaker 1: little day job, keep a side thing. Like you still
Speaker 1: need money, yes, save up some money and like have
Speaker 1: like a little bit of a foundation just in case
Speaker 1: something doesn't work out, you know, like yeah, especially here
Speaker 1: in l A people really get ahead of there's they
Speaker 1: do fast. There's just they get one gig or something.
Speaker 1: They're like off to the whatever land. What's your second piece?
Speaker 1: Because I know you said you had to Oh yeah, wait, okay,
Speaker 1: we'll take it back. What was the question against? It
Speaker 1: was like knowing everything that you had. Um. I would
Speaker 1: also say that if you want to be in this industry,
Speaker 1: you have to have thick skin. You gotta be tough.
Speaker 1: Like it's like I are I always knew like getting
Speaker 1: into this, Like I knew before I even had like
Speaker 1: the online hater and stuff. I'm like, like that job
Speaker 1: comes with craziness, you know what I mean, Like even
Speaker 1: just from like when you know, like when we were
Speaker 1: younger seeing all the stuff and like TMZ and the
Speaker 1: media was like like Lindsay Lohan and like Britney Spear,
Speaker 1: all these people like you know, paparazzi constantly following them
Speaker 1: and attacking them, Like you have to be ready for that,
Speaker 1: like and you can't. You can't be soft, Like even
Speaker 1: a couple of times I've seen certain celebrities like complain
Speaker 1: about and I have to myself, you know, like I
Speaker 1: get it. But that's why I told try to hold
Speaker 1: myself back as much as I can by talking about
Speaker 1: the haters. It's like, yo, I signed up for this,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, so it's like you
Speaker 1: gotta just you gotta have thick skin. And yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it goes back to the ignoring the haters thing,
Speaker 1: being to ignore all the hate and just stay focused. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had. I have a couple of influencers that are friends.
Speaker 1: But one time I was hanging out and they were
Speaker 1: showing me the d MS of hatred and it's like,
Speaker 1: kill yourself when I see you, I'm gonna kill you.
Speaker 1: And it's like people DM this and there's dead serious,
Speaker 1: and you know, the influencers like jokes back, like so
Speaker 1: what'd you eat today? You know? Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the funniest when you reply like that. Yeah. And then
Speaker 1: the guy was just clearly getting more upset, and I
Speaker 1: just could not believe like that was a regular thing,
Speaker 1: Like how mean and vicious they are, Like you don't
Speaker 1: they don't know what kind of day you're having when
Speaker 1: they're doing this. I also thought his response was probably
Speaker 1: in furiating him even more. Yeah, but yeah, so those two,
Speaker 1: is there any other one? I mean, there's so many
Speaker 1: tips I could give people, Um, Like I think the
Speaker 1: first two are yeah, those are those are two solid ones,
Speaker 1: um and then another thing too, Like I mean I've
Speaker 1: definitely said I just slided people's d ms. So, like,
Speaker 1: you gotta do things in a strategic way. You don't
Speaker 1: want to ever be annoying. You don't want to be crazy.
Speaker 1: Like if you make a connection with somebody that's like
Speaker 1: more famous than you, like be very careful with that connection,
Speaker 1: you know, like don't bug that person, don't blow them up.
Speaker 1: I think that's why Rob asked me to be on
Speaker 1: a show. Like I had this guy's number for months.
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't annoy the funk out of him,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like like I think that,
Speaker 1: and then there's there's other situations to where like from
Speaker 1: artists I've worked with, you know, like like I got
Speaker 1: their number, I waited for a while to hit them up,
Speaker 1: and then I was like, what's what a feature? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like you've got to like approach
Speaker 1: people the right way, and sometimes people can be overbearing
Speaker 1: and annoying, and those those people scare me away. You know.
Speaker 1: Also it's like you can't be blowing people up, like
Speaker 1: you've got to like you gotta just like, uh, we
Speaker 1: have a category of ridiculousness. Other day it's called read
Speaker 1: the room. You gotta be able to read the room.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like you to be able
Speaker 1: to like does this person like that I'm texting them
Speaker 1: this or you know what I'm saying, like like paying
Speaker 1: attention to people's body language and or responses via text
Speaker 1: and like don't just don't be annoying because like I've
Speaker 1: seen so many people hurt their careers by being this annoying,
Speaker 1: like to the point where people were like, don't let
Speaker 1: them in the party, Like all they're always like they're
Speaker 1: so annoying, they're always trying to get in everything that
Speaker 1: it does, like you don't want to be known as
Speaker 1: that person, Like you gotta slide in the right way
Speaker 1: side and don't just to paggyback off that. I remember
Speaker 1: this one girl she was hanging out with like our
Speaker 1: group and some of them are very successful, but she
Speaker 1: would write like a tent page essay through Instagram of
Speaker 1: her life story and it was like random and it
Speaker 1: was like clearly she was working out stuff. But it
Speaker 1: also freaked people out because it was like, we just happened.
Speaker 1: You were you were kicking with us, you were in
Speaker 1: the room, you were friends with all of you know this,
Speaker 1: but just scared us at open Yeah, where did the
Speaker 1: life story come from? Funny? But thank you so much
Speaker 1: for feeding me. Oh my mess of the Eating Wall
Speaker 1: Broke table, I definitely made a mess. I'm the worst
Speaker 1: and I'm not even gonna lie. Like I was trying
Speaker 1: to be polite and like saved some on my plate,
Speaker 1: but I really wanted to know. I want to finish.
Speaker 1: We were just talking so much. I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to be like spitting out tapazeo, Like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So thank you Chanel West Coast for feeding us and
Speaker 1: sharing intimate side behind the scenes about who you are
Speaker 1: and like, I'm so happy you came out and spilled
Speaker 1: the tea. You're so real and it's been really a blast.
Speaker 1: Thank you. So I'm coolie with This is Chanelle West
Speaker 1: Coast and we're eating while Broke. For more Eating Wall
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