1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hello, welcome 5 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: back to the show. My name is Matt, my name 6 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: is No. They call me Ben. We are joined as 7 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: always with our super producer Paul Mission controlled decade. Most importantly, 8 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: you are you. You are here, and that makes this 9 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: stuff they don't want you to know. This is the 10 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: first episode we are recording in what the calendars called 11 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,319 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. So if you're listening to this, congratulations, you've 12 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: made it at least to January of that month. Good, 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: good for you. Wait to go. You did a thing. 14 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: We all did it. We're all here. We are here 15 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: in some shape reform. I'm already enjoying the heck out 16 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: of Yeah. Yeah, well mainly I don't know, just personal choice. 17 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: I decided I wasn't going to drink at all in January, 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: to think people do the dry January and Dryanuary. Yeah. 19 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: And I've gotten so much done in six days, it's crazy. 20 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: I redecorated my whole house. I've been working on music again, 21 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: I've I've been just you know, being more present with 22 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: my kid. Not that I'm some kind of crazy alcoholic, 23 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: but it's easy to forget about the things that actually 24 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: make you happy. When maybe work is a little stressful, 25 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: you decide you'd rather just like have a couple of 26 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: drinks with friends instead. I've been like doing you know, 27 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 1: playing board games and stuff. And it's great. Now friends 28 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: come over to my house and we play nerd games together. 29 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: That's amazing. Noll And I'm so proud of you for 30 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: not letting the current news cycle cause you to go 31 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: back to the drink. I don't know what you're talking about. 32 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: I also chosen to give up watching television, giving up 33 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: with the news. Please enlighten me. Oh nothing, just something 34 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: to do with this country that we've talked about on 35 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: this show numerous times that is surrounded on all sides 36 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: by uh, people that may want to um invade for 37 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: various reasons. Um and you know there's just almost a 38 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: hot war between our country and that country. US invade us. Matt, No, No, anyway, Ben, 39 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: how you doing good? You good with a whole Iran 40 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: situation with the reason is to congratulations to everyone for 41 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: making it to January of twenty It's because we are 42 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: very much in a what what it feels like, a 43 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: day by day, week by week um estimate of the future, 44 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: which may change, uh precipitously. Of course. It's often said, 45 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: at least by me, that the world is ending for 46 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: someone somewhere every day. Uh. But you know Australia is 47 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: burning down, the ocean is ceridification that you warned me 48 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: about years ago, Matt, That's that's definitely in play. I 49 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:53,119 Speaker 1: I have also, I have also not gone completely dry, 50 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: but have a drinking a lot less, just because I 51 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: feel like I need to be aware and alert at 52 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: all times. Relaxation feels very twenty nine. Oh man, I 53 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: feel that, I swear to God. The news cycles is 54 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: starting to feel like that movie Children of Men, you know, 55 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: like it's very much like a near future dystopia thing 56 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: that we're starting to fall into a little bit. I'm 57 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: not being super hyperbolic about that. It really if you 58 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: just take a minute, listen to the radio, watch TV. 59 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: Everything's on fire. It's crazy. Well, let me tell you this, 60 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: and I agree, let me tell you this just here, 61 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 1: I'll share this in the room, and I'm this is 62 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: the first time I'm talking about this, uh, and I'm 63 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: speaking to you person who called um Ben Noel Paul. 64 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: We got a really really wonderful series of calls on 65 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: our our hotline over like right after the New year, 66 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: occurred from a gentleman who told of how he he 67 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: knew he had to quit heroin and the only way 68 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: he was going to do it was to get a 69 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: trusted friend and lock himself in a place for were, 70 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: you know, weeks on end. And while he was doing that, 71 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: he found our podcast. And he said, because the time 72 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: goes by so excruciatingly slowly during those times, getting to 73 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: have our podcast gave him a place to It gave 74 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: him a group of people essentially with whom to commune 75 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: without having any kind of fear of falling back, right, Um, 76 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: And he said he's and he ended up getting through 77 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: the entire show and he just thanked us on the 78 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: phone for for just existing and for talking. Congratulations, man, 79 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: We're glad you're here. Right. Isn't that amazing? It's incredible. 80 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: He actually had reached out on Instagram or something to said, yeah, 81 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: and but this is an update. That's that's that's new. Um, well, 82 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: we'll really really wonderful. We'll share it together. It's just 83 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: just so everyone knows he was listening to this first 84 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: time we've actually hung out altogether in a while. Um, 85 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: but we just want to put that out there. The world, 86 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: as scary as it seems, as bad as the news seems, 87 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: as crazy as the stuff we're about to talk about is, 88 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: in the end, we have each other, no right, right, 89 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: And that's why I wasn't choking when I said my 90 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: twenty is off to a really nice start. I'm feeling 91 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: pretty positive about things overall, despite the news cycle and 92 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: how you know, eminently weird things are getting. I mean, 93 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, all we have our friends, 94 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: are loved ones, are families, and the little things that 95 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: we have to occupy our minds with to keep from 96 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: going completely insane. So this is the first episode we're 97 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: recording in twenty hopefully not the last. But you know, 98 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: you know how the nature of life is, It's like 99 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: a La Musk recently said it it's a video game 100 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: where the graphics are amazing, the tutorials are too long. 101 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: The problem with life is that we're all working live right, 102 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,239 Speaker 1: There's no no one really in charge, There's not really 103 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: a plan or is there, because today we are diving 104 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: into one of the strangest, most controversial conspiracy stories of 105 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: the odds, which I mean the recent adds, tens and 106 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: so on. This is something that many of our fellow 107 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: listeners have written to us about or communicated interest in 108 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: to us via some platform or another. As as always, 109 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: we want to explore these ideas with um with with 110 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: an emphasis on critical thinking and an emphasis on the 111 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: facts versus rumors, etcetera, etcetera. If you this is your 112 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: first rodeo, you'll see what we mean very quickly. Uh 113 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: and again, hopefully it's not your last rodeo. You've heard 114 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: the name before, You may have even accidentally or purposely 115 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: found yourself embroiled in a conversation about this thing. But 116 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: what exactly is que A Non? Why has it become 117 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: a focal point for a certain genre of conspiracy literature, 118 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: and most importanly, what sort of claims do q A 119 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: Non supporters make? If you are someone like like many 120 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: of us listening, who enjoys a bit of googling while 121 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,559 Speaker 1: you're while you're listening to the podcast, uh, take note 122 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: that q ANN is spelled capital Q capital A n 123 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: O n Anyhow, here are the facts. So to begin 124 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: this story, we have to jump back to twenty seventeen 125 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: October of that year, and we have to uh go 126 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: to a place called four chan, a message board, and 127 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: within that there is a channel called poll p o 128 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: l Politics. And on that date October, there is a person, 129 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: a user ostensibly anonymous that had the name Q Clearance Patriot. 130 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: And this user started popping up on that slash p 131 00:07:55,280 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: o l uh that message board and hope buddy, Oh yeah, 132 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: we're not even gonna get to the messag. Yeah, let's 133 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: just let's explain some of this. Yeah, let's take a 134 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: step back. So fur Chan, okay, you you've heard about it. Yeah, 135 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: it's like the armpit of the internet more more or less. 136 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: Well okay, okay, it was once like not as bad 137 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: as it has become, but it has certainly gained a 138 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: reputation for becoming a place where people can anonymously spout 139 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: pretty much whatever they want, as they say in Star Wars, 140 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: a hive of scum and villany. That's what it's been 141 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: accused of being. The mainstream media. It's I would just 142 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: put out there and we're gonna talk about this. It 143 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: is one of the places that the Internet provides where 144 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: you can literally say whatever you want anonymously. Right right. 145 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: One of my old colleagues called it uh one of 146 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: the best arguments against free speech in the modern era. 147 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: Four Chan is, as you said, about, an anonymous English 148 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: language website or image board. It was created in two 149 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: thousand and three by a guy named Christopher Pool, going 150 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: under the name moot m o O T. You can hear. 151 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: You can hear a pretty great summation of the origin 152 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: evolution of four chan on our Pure podcast Text Stuff 153 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: by Jonathan Strickland, so it won't get too into the 154 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: weeds here. Four Chune was originally, as of two thousand three, 155 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: supposed to be a digital space wherein anonymous posters could 156 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: talk about anime and post images related to anime, but 157 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: it expanded it admission creep as many things do, and 158 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: today it's home to message boards on any number of 159 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: topics video games, music, politics, sports, etcetera, etcetera, including some 160 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: patently disturbing content. The thing about four chan is, unlike 161 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: a lot of similar message boards, you cannot really register 162 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: you post anonymously. Threads with recent replies get bumped to 163 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: the top of the board, and then old threads that 164 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 1: get less and less attention or automatically to he did 165 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: as new ones appear. It's also huge, it's big. Quick 166 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: question for you guys, being a bit of a four 167 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,599 Speaker 1: Chan new by man, know a decent amount of about it, 168 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: but I've never really interacted with it. Is what makes 169 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: it different from say Reddit, like, is it just less 170 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: moderated or is it a little more of a free 171 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: for all? There are there are moderators on four Chan, 172 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: but Reddit requires if you want to post on Reddit, 173 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: you have to have a registered name. There you go. 174 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: So it's the anonymity that really sets it apart, right, 175 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: got it? So back to its size, It's true, it's 176 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: it's massive. Each month from the site receives twenty two 177 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: to twenty seven million unique visitors, and every day um 178 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: users generate around eight hundred thousand new posts UM And 179 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: much like Reddit, you have groups with abbreviations like forward 180 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: slash po l forward slash which is the politically incorrect group, 181 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: and that was starting. I would just have to say 182 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: I I incorrectly called it politics because in my brain 183 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: I just I'm in Reddit world. So apologies, but it's 184 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: still means the same. Yeah, I know, I just know. 185 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: I don't don't hurt us. Okay, continue that again. I don't. 186 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: I don't think that. I think that's a good point, Matt, 187 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: because I do feel like read it versus Fortune four 188 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: chan is inherently a little more fringe e then then 189 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: read it. It's it seems to me just as an outsider, 190 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: but correct me if I'm wrong. The fringe doth exist everywhere. 191 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: That's very true. It seems like it's a little more 192 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: nurtured by the fact that you're able to post anonymously 193 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: for sure. Um. It was essentially a reboot of four 194 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: Chance Newsboard um new slash new which had been deleted 195 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: in January because of flagrant racism of a specific type 196 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: as well, which was, you know, white supremacist type, uh 197 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: far far right wing kind of racism. So let's put 198 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: that info to this side just for now. All you 199 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: need to remember this poll exists as troubled history. It's 200 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: been repeatedly cited as a hub for racism, sexism, neo 201 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: Nazi ideology and so on, you mean, politically incorrect stuff, guys. Right, 202 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: And let's let's also remember that q or q ann 203 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: as we explore the evolution here also became known as 204 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: the Storm or the Great Awakening, and the reason why is, 205 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: oddly enough, it is clearly traceable to a single incident 206 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 1: in involving and what many people thought to be an 207 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: off hand, sort of throwaway remark by the current president 208 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: of the United States. So let's just go back. October 209 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: is when Q clearance patriot shows up. Correct? O now, Uh, 210 00:12:54,559 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: twenty three days prior to that, on October five, President Trump. Uh, 211 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: he made some comments while he was hanging out in 212 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: front of a bunch of reporters there. Yeah, they're taking 213 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: a publicity photo with a ton of high level military officials. 214 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: They had a special gathering. They were taking this photo 215 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: and they're all standing around several people, you know, it's 216 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: mostly photographers, but several are running video and there is 217 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: video of this you can watch right now. Uh. This 218 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: is a quote from President Trump. Do you guys know 219 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: what this represents? Maybe it's the calm before the storm? 220 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: What what storm? Mr President on Roan or isis? Or 221 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: or what what's the storm? Um, We've got the worlds 222 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: As a continuing the quote, we've got the world's great 223 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: military people in this room. I will tell you that 224 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a great meeting. Thank you all for coming. 225 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: What storm, Mr President, you'll find out now just think 226 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: about that. That's all it was, but it was in 227 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: it occurs. It's a little longer than that. We're paraphrasing here, 228 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: but that is. Those are the exact quotes. This maybe 229 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: is the calm before the storm. And oh, you'll find 230 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: out when he's asked what it is. Um, it was 231 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: a very vague statement, and here's the deal that we 232 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: need to kind of note here. So in the context 233 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: in October early October, there were a lot of rumors 234 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: floating around. There were people talking um in Washington, d c. 235 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: Quite extensively about whether or not the Iran nuclear Deal, 236 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: which was negotiated by President Trump's predecessor, President Obama, was 237 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: on the table as possibly being changed or altered or 238 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: pulled out of or there was there were rumors that 239 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: something was going to change there with regards to Iran. Right, Yeah, yeah, 240 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: that perhaps the the administration at the time would uh 241 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: de certified or pull out of the nuclear deal. Yes, 242 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: and he's he's in a room full of the top 243 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: military officials who would be concerned about that, and or 244 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: you know, have something to say. Also, to be fair, 245 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: something like you'll find out is you know, it's not 246 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: a declaration of policy at all. He's kind of fond 247 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: of making those little wink wink, nudge nudge kind of statements. 248 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: And actually like there's you know, something bigger at play 249 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: than than is on the surface. It's you know what 250 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: it is. It's a statement that makes you come back 251 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: after the commercial break. Does that make sense? Like it 252 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: totally speaks to his his production brain. I mean, yeah, 253 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: he's definitely you know, from his experience working on in television, 254 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: he's got he knows how to he knows how to 255 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: have a cliffhanger. It's also a bit of a it's 256 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: also a bit of a way to end a conversation. 257 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: You know, we have to I have to go, but 258 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: I have a pretty busy schedule. Just to be absolutely fair, 259 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: and this this gained uh, some some weight, some gravity 260 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: online in a more serious version of co fefe. You know. 261 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: So it does represent a theme that we see pretty often, 262 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: which is it made people uncertain to the point you 263 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: guys are making there was a cliffhanger, but there wasn't 264 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: really a follow up, at least on the President's end 265 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: at that point, and and and the the connection we're 266 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: about to draw as well could be entirely coincidental. This 267 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: want to put that out there right now. So in 268 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: this case, that quotation, that single that single dialogue seems 269 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: to have not just bread speculation, but inspired what is 270 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: nowadays referred to an Internet shorthand as Q or Q 271 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: and on, so what exactly is Q? And on saying here, 272 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: Mr President, what is and saying you'll find out after 273 00:16:52,000 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: a word from our sponsor. Here's where it gets crazy. 274 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: So once the quote is out there, Q Clearance Patriot. Uh. 275 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: The nickname, by the way, is is a reference to 276 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: Q level security clearance, which is a real thing in 277 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: the Department of Energy. It's the equivalent of top secret away. 278 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:20,239 Speaker 1: Q Clearance Patriot begins posting, uh, And we have we 279 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: have the text of the first post made by the 280 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: entity claiming to be Q Clearance Patriot. We can read 281 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: it to you. We want to note that it may 282 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: feel a little bit obtuse. In G in the following 283 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: message stands for National Guard and h r C stands 284 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: for Hillary Rodham Clinton HRC extradition already in motion effective 285 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: yesterday with several countries in case of cross border run. 286 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: Passport approved to be flagged effective ten thirty at twelve 287 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: oh one am. Expect massive riots organized and defiance and 288 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: others fleeing the US to occur. U S, M S 289 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: will conduct the operation while MG activated proof check locate 290 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: an MG member and asked if activated for duty ten 291 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: thirty across most major cities. I don't think we explained MS. Yeah, 292 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: U S Marines. So the idea here is that Hillary 293 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: Clinton is going to be extradited and that somewhere yeah, 294 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: and then multiple countries are girding up their security to 295 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: prevent this person from getting successfully to another country or 296 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: an on extradition treaty country, that the passport will be 297 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: flagged rendered invalid. That's what that means. That there will 298 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: be massive riots that are heavily implied to be planned, 299 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, kind of astroturfed riots, so not the actual 300 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: people rising up, and that others which would people would 301 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: later say, we're other democratic UM and democratic politicians leaders 302 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: so on, that they would be fleeing the US, and 303 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: that Marines would conduct this um this mass arrest or 304 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: this culing starry within Clinton, and that the National Guard 305 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: will be activated to be uh, kind of like the 306 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: backup the reserves. So what's the implication here? The implication 307 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: is that a lot of high level democrats are about 308 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: to be rounded up and arrest and arrested and potentially 309 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: indicted for what, well, for the many crimes though for 310 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: the many, many crimes. That's that's the implication. But this 311 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: is just the first post. This is the first of 312 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: what would later be called breadcrumbs. And the thing is 313 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: that Q would claim access the secret information and followed 314 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: up with another post a few a few hours later, 315 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,239 Speaker 1: just hours later, and because he's again he's this is 316 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: on he's warning about ten twenties posting on T rights right, 317 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: which will see as a pattern, and so Q in 318 00:19:55,119 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: his next post writes a little bit more co aparently, 319 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: but the languages replete with what appeared to be coded phrases. 320 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: So Q was saying that Clinton has already been detained 321 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: by authorities and that Donald Trump was aware of this, 322 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: knew that criminal rogue elements, including Clinton, had to be arrested. 323 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: And then he also references several other people popular and 324 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories, such as the billionaire philanthropist George Soros. Uh, 325 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: you know, regardless of what you feel about the specifics 326 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: of the allegations about against George Soros, and we all 327 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: agree billionaire philanthropists are potentially supervillains just in general they 328 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: have the capacity to be so. So, uh, do you 329 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: want to read an example of one of these posts? Yeah, 330 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: just to give us a little more and then we 331 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: can This one's a little juicier too. Yeah. So this 332 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: is again made on October. Uh, here he goes? You ready, 333 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: mocking Bird HRC detained, not arrested yet? Where is Huma? 334 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: Follow Huma? And that, of course is Huma Aberdeen that 335 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: we've talked about before in this show, with the emails 336 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: in particular, and as well as with reference to Anthony Weiner, 337 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: her former husband. I want to say, uh, here we go, 338 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: let's continue. This has nothing to do with Russia yet. 339 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: Why does Potas surround himself with generals? What is military intelligence? 340 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 1: What is military intelligence? Guys? Okay, let's continue. Why go 341 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: around the three letter agencies? This reads like a very 342 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: strange poem. Yes, what Supreme Court case allows for the 343 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,959 Speaker 1: use of m I versus Congressional assembled and approved agencies? 344 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: Who has the ultimate authority over our branches of military 345 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: without approval? Conditions unless ninety plus in wartime conditions? What 346 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: is the military code? Where is a W being held? 347 00:21:55,720 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: Why a W is that Anthony Weiner? No? Is that 348 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: Andrew problem? But who knows? Right? Potas will not go 349 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: on TV to address nation. Podas must isolate himself to 350 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: prevent negative optics. Potas knew removing critical rogue elements as 351 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: a first step was essential to free and pass legislation. 352 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: Who has access to everything classified? Do you believe HRC Soros, Obama, etcetera? 353 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: Have more power than Trump? Fantasy? Whoever controls the Office 354 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: of the Presidents, He controls this great land. They never 355 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: believed for a moment they Democrats and Republicans would lose control. 356 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: This is not r v D battle. Why did Soros 357 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: donate all his money recently? Why would he place all 358 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: his funds in a r C R C anyone rent control? Now? 359 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, I do is mocking Bird ten thirty seventeen? 360 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: God bless fellow patriots? Is that a Hunger Games reference? That? Oh? Yeah? 361 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: So what's mocking this is? This is? First off, this 362 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: is a pure sugar rush, right for some people on fortune? 363 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: This is candy. Now. I also I was reading this 364 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: when it came out, and I got so into I thought, 365 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: you know, I don't care if it's real, because we'll 366 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: get to it. There's a problem, there's a problem with identity, 367 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: you know. And it's like this, even if it's just mimetic. Uh. 368 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: You know, people who have enough knowledge of the reference 369 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: points here can begin to dive down the rabbit hole. 370 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: So for people who already deep into the world of conspiracy, 371 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: especially those trending towards the far right, fringe stuff it's called, 372 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 1: they were elated. Uh. And probably no small part terrified 373 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: Operation mocking Bird. You're asked about the Well, it's a 374 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: reference to a real life CIA program to blackmail journalists 375 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: and control propaganda narratives, and that that thing actually happened. 376 00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: And it is true that the laws preventing the legal 377 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: dissemination of of US propaganda in the domestic sphere have 378 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: been rescinded. Yeah, it's free reigin baby, what a time. Uh. 379 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: And this this also references, like you said, Matt, it 380 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: references the idea that Huma Aberdeen, the former Clinton stafford, 381 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: was secretly working for the Muslim Brotherhood, which has the 382 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: nicest way to says, it has not been proven true. Yeah, 383 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: and well a just referencing Whoma is kind of one 384 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: of those triggers at that time, at least in two 385 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: seventeen and a little prior to that. Um, a trigger word. 386 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: That's like, again, it's just this, like you said, this 387 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: is candy Ben, where all of these little things, these 388 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: little references just can send you down a rabbit hole. 389 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: A single one of them could. And this is basically 390 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,959 Speaker 1: arming you with a handful of skittles. You're so right 391 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: about that reference. But okay, and here's the deal with 392 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: a post like this. It's not just a single post. 393 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: It exists within, you know, this ecosystem of everybody else 394 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: being able to ask a question like and again you're 395 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: kind of answering all of these questions because this is 396 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: all questions, almost almost nine questions that are being raised 397 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: here in this post. But like leading questions kind of 398 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: too right. Well yeah, but it's also it's just it's 399 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 1: it's fairly odd but intriguing, right. Um. But what happened 400 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:39,479 Speaker 1: was this started a movement, right Yeah, so Q the 401 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: poster right is different from the group to a NOD, 402 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 1: which is the supporters of this idea later grew into 403 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: what would be known as the Storm or the Great Awakening, 404 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: and this this grew from fertile soil. Remember this follows 405 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: on the heels of things like Pizza Gate, where in Uh, 406 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: where various folks were arguing, based on some emails, that 407 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: there was a secret caball of child abusers, a child 408 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 1: abuse ring that was connected to Hillary Clinton, that was 409 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: operating out of a basement in a pizza chain. Problem 410 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: being the actual pizza restaurant does not have a basement, 411 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: but just the same. A believer of that particular conspiracy theory, 412 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: a guy by the name of Edgar Madison Welch went 413 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: into this pizza place, a very popular political pizza hangout 414 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: UM and supposed child sex dungeon. Uh. He went in 415 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: there and and shot the place up. He didn't like 416 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: kill anybody, but he shut the lock off of a 417 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: I believe it was a door that was meant to 418 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: lead down into the secret basement, but there was no 419 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: evidence of of this ever uncovered. Yeah, went to a 420 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: closet actually where a damaged the computer. It is interesting 421 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: how we don't have to get into it too deeply, 422 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: but Pizza Gate, the way it evolved, we were looking 423 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: at it very closely as it was evolving, and for 424 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: it to focus on that one pizza restaurant that we're 425 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: not naming here, by the way, we know the name 426 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: of it, we're not naming it here just in case, 427 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: just for whatever reason. Uh, people feel that you how 428 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: you may feel. Um, but it was odd that these 429 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: emails that were all you know, leaked from it was 430 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: from the Hillary Clinton email breach and leak that came out. Um, 431 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: most of the people on those chains were Democrats, not 432 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: all of them, but most of them, or high level 433 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: officials or assistance to high level officials. UM. And the 434 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,719 Speaker 1: stuff that was construed or misconstrued or you know, taken 435 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: from those emails, there was some odd stuff in there. 436 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: And I would be the first to say there was 437 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: definitely some odd stuff in there. Um. But you can 438 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 1: see it's such a good example of how you get 439 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: a little bit of information or maybe a tiny peek 440 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: into a window or a flashlights view in the darkness, 441 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: and that's all you see, and then you're assuming what 442 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: is on the other side that you can't see. Um. 443 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: That's we're kind of going down that path already with 444 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: just what Q and On has said, With what Q 445 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: clearance patriotis and we all already see the emphasis on 446 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:35,479 Speaker 1: creating connective tissue, on on discerning and following and then 447 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: ultimately predicting a pattern and order of operations. But before 448 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: we get to that, you know, this is nested like 449 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: Matroska dolls here. But before we get to that, there's 450 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: a problem of identity. Remember how earlier we noted the 451 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: strong anonymity on four Chan. Q was aware of this 452 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: and so attempted to provide proof of his or her 453 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: or their aims. They posted images you can see online 454 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: that some creditors, especially on the Our Conspiracy subredit believed 455 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: confirmed Q was physically present on Air Force one and 456 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: thus was receiving this information from none other than the 457 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: current commander in chief. And some followers started to argue 458 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: about the true identity of Q. You would see all 459 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: kinds of um, all kinds of allegations. Probably the most 460 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: out there were that first Donald Trump or Trump Junior 461 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: were themselves Q, or that JFK Jr. Faked his death 462 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: to get away from the Deep State and is himself 463 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: Q to tell the truth about the Deep State. But 464 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: now that we've set up all of this background and 465 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: told you how this story began, what the origin point was, 466 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: and you can see a little bit about the explosive growth. 467 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: We have to ask ourselves what what is q A 468 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: non saying? What are the claims? Will tell you after 469 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: a word from our sponsor, and we're back, maybe a 470 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: little bit of movie voice. In a world controlled by cannibals, 471 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: Satan worshippers, elite child abusers, only one man has that 472 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm falling off. Only one person. There's 473 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: an obi wan who is the only hope in this story, 474 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: and it's it is President Trump in this In this narrative, 475 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: the fact that that Trump was formerly a Democrat and 476 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: then later a Republican is seen as proof that he 477 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: belongs to neither party, who are of course both painted 478 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: his puppets on the hands of a global and Trump 479 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: is fighting an internal war, according again to q and On, 480 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: and has to be protected by the military because the 481 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: Secret Service, the FBI, the CIA, the rest of the 482 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: alphabet soup has all been compromised, and yeah, all compromised, 483 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: and um, largely it's difficult to move those powers, like 484 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: the individuals that have power in those institutions right right, 485 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: even though you've seen him cycle through several Sure, yeah, yeah, 486 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: and you've seen the narrative change too, but he's saying, 487 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: yes that the the alphabet super intelligence agencies, they're all 488 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: uh Serocian for lack of a better word. And then 489 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: going back to this question which you asked, No about 490 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: the format, because cues postings often do take that cryptic 491 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: question format, and so people who follow this Q and 492 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: honors following this will say that each question is some 493 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: sort of hint or a clue or a riddle containing 494 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: some hidden truth about the the real nature of global governance, 495 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: and that astute minds can divine the meaning behind these postings. 496 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: For me, it's almost like a puzzle game that if 497 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: you can answer one of the questions, then you can 498 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: and then you answer to the next one, and then 499 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: you realize how those are connected, and then it just 500 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: goes down right, But like there's no rhymer reason to it. 501 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. Maybe I'm being obtused here. Uh. 502 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: Actually that's the word you used, Ben, I think quite 503 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: astutely when you're talking about the way that some of 504 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: these posts read, um and I think I said some 505 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: of them came off as leading questions. Some of them do, like, 506 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: for example, who has ultimate authority over our branches of military, 507 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: who approves conditions unless ninety plus in wartime conditions. I mean, 508 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: that's sort of trying to push you to think a thing. 509 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: And some of them are super open ended. So if 510 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: there's a puzzle here, where's the solution? It seems like 511 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: a lot of projection going on. Yeah, yeah, I agree. 512 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: It's they're they're called breadcrumbs because they're thought to be 513 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: these tidbits of information, right, and they're forming a trail. 514 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: That picture, you know, one of my favorite always sunny 515 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia moments when Charlie Day is obsessed with the 516 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: discovery of Pepe Lopez, remember, and he's standing there and 517 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: he's like chain smoking and pointing to his conspiracy board. 518 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely right here in that. It reminds 519 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: me a little bit of people who claim to have 520 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: interpreted Nostradamus. You know, there's a bit of tea leaf 521 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,959 Speaker 1: reading that comes into this, you know, those without without 522 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: verification or more explicit statements by Q itself. Even assuming 523 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: that we could prove to is q uh, you can 524 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 1: make those initials mean anything you want. Sure our it 525 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: could be rent control, it could also be right. It 526 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 1: could also it could be robo cow, you know, yeah, 527 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: straight up could be straight up robook. I don't know 528 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 1: why I went over the cop to cow. I'm very 529 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: well aware of the robocopes. Well, but I'm saying, I 530 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: see exactly what you're saying. And this kind of writing, 531 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: and what it does is it allows the interpreter, so 532 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: an end user, somebody who reads it who is loud 533 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: and influential enough to then say this is what that means, 534 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: and then that person almost gets more power or is 535 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 1: able to translate it in a way that then a 536 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,959 Speaker 1: massive amount of people believes it has been translated. Yes, 537 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: And there's another aspect here, which I think if we're 538 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: thinking critically, we have to be even more skeptical about 539 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: at this point. There's another aspect wherein some uh, some 540 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: people who purport to believe in the cue it on 541 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: stuff will say that they're not just they're not just 542 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: correctly interpreting the statements they find on four Chan related forums. 543 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: They're also interpreting the actions of the president, the physical 544 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: individual and his own actions that would seem innocuous to 545 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: mainstream media. There's this one, for instance, There's this one 546 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: moment in a meeting where he is sitting next to 547 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: the Vice president, and I believe it, takes a bottle 548 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: of Fiji water, drinks it, and then puts it on 549 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: the floor. Right. So there were people arguing that this 550 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: was not just someone handling a water bottle, that this 551 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: was a non verbal signal that he was planning to 552 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: take down a child abuse ring in guess where the 553 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: Bahamas close. They're both on the planet Fiji and uh. 554 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 1: And when we get to that level subjectivity, it's it's 555 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: tough to prove anything, you know. And that's that's the 556 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: devilish part about that, because barring a statement from the 557 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: actual president saying yeah, that's why I did it, or no, 558 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: I just put the water there, uh, you know, there's 559 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 1: there's no proof. And then also even if people could 560 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: just choose to say the guy is line or he's assembling. 561 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: I had said a thing before the first break of 562 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: the idea of Trump's offhanded statements about the storm the 563 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 1: coming storm, that that could well have been a complete 564 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: coincidence as related to this movement. But I think it's 565 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: the other way around. Actually, I think this movement hopped 566 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: on that innocuous ish statements and then created this notion 567 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: of the coming reckoning or whatever I believe. We talked 568 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: about these high level officials that were corralled and round 569 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: rounded up secretly, and supposedly they've all been fitted with 570 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: ankle monitors, um because they're already under indictment secretly. But 571 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 1: we have what we can't let anyone know that. It's 572 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: we gotta look like as business as usual, Like no, 573 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: who's gonna stand for that? I don't you know what 574 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: I mean? Like the whole We will get more into it, 575 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: but it's it's a very flamic thing, the whole narrative 576 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: behind this. There's a lot of a lot of pieces 577 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: that would have to fall into place just so perfectly 578 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: that just don't make sense in a logistical way. Yeah, 579 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: it's not as unreasonable as a flat earth movement, for example, 580 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 1: for an extreme example. But it's difficult to discern how 581 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: all of this could be true at once. And that's 582 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: the that's one of the structural problems here if we're 583 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: being objective. But according to q and On, the US 584 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: government has been controlled for decades and decades, maybe more 585 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: than a century, by a very close knit group of 586 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: powerful deep state actors, and they are only part of 587 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: a larger picture. The world, according to Q, is controlled 588 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 1: by a global ring of nibalistic, demon worshiping child abusers, 589 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: a group that is responsible for everything from the assassination 590 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: of JFK to the rise of terrorist groups like ISIS, 591 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 1: to the escalation the continual frequency of domestic mass shootings. 592 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:22,240 Speaker 1: And Furthermore, they argue that every single president elected since JFK, 593 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: pay attention to that one Democrat or Republican has been 594 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: a puppet for this cabal, with one notable exception, Donald J. Trump. Yes, 595 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 1: give give the man a cigar, but yeah, we're not 596 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: supposed to smoke cigars. Are you just d it? I 597 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: never got it. It always felt to Freudian for me. 598 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: It's like Will Smith, Welcome to Miami. I guess you're right. 599 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 1: Um No, we shouldn't teach us the ways. I mainly 600 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: just break mine open and put other things into them. 601 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: What just kidding, I'm not kidding. I don't know. I 602 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: don't care anymore. What I do care about is that 603 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: this is all pretty intensely bonkers, but also fascinating, because, 604 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: like you said, Ben, there's so much um tea leaf 605 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: reading that goes into this and the way these narratives 606 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: have been generated by users, not by Q him or herself. 607 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 1: That was just kind of the red meat, you know, 608 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: for the masses to then just go ape over, you know, 609 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: and just like swarm over the stuff and create what 610 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: do what the Internet does best, which is generate bonkers 611 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories or or memes or just you know, baseless claims, 612 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: which is what most of this, if not all of 613 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: this absolutely seems to be. Well that's the problem too, 614 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: So to continue with this, the the idea is that 615 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: the president, President Trump has been working behind the scenes 616 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: to expose the deep seat and it carefully orchestrated fashion, 617 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: and all will soon be revealed. Ultimately he will send 618 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,399 Speaker 1: the guilty parties to the quasi black site known as 619 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: Guantanamo Bay. And if you ask the true believers, proof 620 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: of this is all around you. If you ask the 621 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: true believers, then the idea is not whether or not 622 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: there's proof, but it's why you a nonbeliever, insist on 623 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: having your head in the sand. You can't see it, right, 624 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: because of course, like we've got some examples like the 625 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 1: Mueller Report, right, it turns out Robert Mueller and Donald 626 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: Trump are secretly close colleagues there, behind the scenes, allies, 627 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: and that the Mueller Report, while ostensibly investigating Russian interference 628 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: in the US election, in reality what it was a 629 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:55,399 Speaker 1: reality was an investigation into this deep state, and that 630 00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 1: Donald Trump had to had to performatively uh cozy up 631 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: to the Russian state because that gave Muller the ability 632 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: to investigate the real problem, which was the deep state 633 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: in the US abroad, which is responsible for everything from 634 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 1: Pizza Gate to the seen mass shooting in Vegas. Yeah. 635 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,760 Speaker 1: Well then you bring in the even more recent stuff 636 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: with the old Ukraine call with some quid pro quo 637 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: and the whistleblowers who came forward and made everyone aware 638 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: of that, to the impeachment proceedings that have been going 639 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 1: on went on um to really to the supporters of 640 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 1: Q and On, these are just ways for the deep 641 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: state essentially to fight back against the power that Trump has. 642 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: It just to sty me a little bit his efforts 643 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: to reveal all of the truths eventually that he's going 644 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: to reveal, Right, and this is where we get to 645 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: the the idea of revelation, the problem with proof. So, first, 646 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: many claims made by Q and On had an expiration date. 647 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 1: This is something that this is something that leads to 648 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: the downfall of a lot of apocalyptic belief systems right 649 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: where you know, we see it tail as old as time. 650 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 1: There's a charismatic cult leader. And I'm not saying this 651 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 1: is what Q is, and I'm not saying it's a cult. 652 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: But in the case of cults, there's a charismatic leader 653 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: who says, due to some divine revelation or another, I 654 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 1: know that the world will end on November third, six. 655 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: Get to a cave be we will be like the 656 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: sons and daughters of Adam and Eve, strike down the unworthy, 657 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And then sure enough, the 658 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: next day comes and the world keeps spinning on its 659 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: merry Mary Sinister way. So what happens here is that 660 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 1: many of the claims made by Q and on later 661 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: turned out to be demonstrablief false. John Podesta was not 662 00:42:55,160 --> 00:43:00,080 Speaker 1: indicted on November three of seventeen, whom Aberdeen was not 663 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: indicted on November six to two thousand seventeen. That we're 664 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: aware of, that we're aware of unless they're wearing those 665 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:11,760 Speaker 1: secret ankle bracelets. Uh, And then what if they actually 666 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:16,720 Speaker 1: were wearing ankle bracelets. Guys, I'm gonna feel so silly, 667 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: because I genuinely feel like it's silly. Feel it. It's 668 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 1: not possible, but I've been surprised before. I'm gonna be 669 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: honest and this, you know, I don't want to say 670 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 1: too much personal stuff, but this reminds me of something. 671 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: There is a religious aspect to this fervance to it, 672 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 1: and this reminds me of you know, hearing about I'm 673 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 1: not like to say which religions, but hearing about specific 674 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: religions with very specific requirements for behavior. Not just the 675 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: like don't be ad dick stuff the most religions do, 676 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: but but like very specific religions. And I always used 677 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 1: to wonder. I used to think, you know, what if 678 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 1: that's the one that's true. What if you die and 679 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,439 Speaker 1: it turns out that it's just this one specific thing, 680 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 1: like it's mythrayism the whole time, that's what it was. 681 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 1: And uh, And I always thought, you know, if I 682 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: get to the afterlife, I feel like I'm gonna be 683 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: one of those people's little Larry David about him like, 684 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: all right, fine, you got me, But just to be fair, 685 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 1: your pr stinks and those are weirdly specific rules, so 686 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: weird in fact, that I don't think I'd be comfortable 687 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: hanging out with the rest of your gang on the 688 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: other side of the gate because I like polyesters. It's 689 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 1: pretty loviticous we're talking about, which is a great read. 690 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 1: I would recommend it to anyone out there. But you see, 691 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying like this, The problem here 692 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 1: is if you're applying critical thinking, you're The problem here 693 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: is in the becificity of the claims, right, because they 694 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: can be disproven. And this is something that Q and 695 00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,839 Speaker 1: On notices and responds to, right. Q and N one 696 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:07,280 Speaker 1: has said that these false predictions are necessary because disinformation 697 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: is necessary. So maybe they're saying, we know that the 698 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: bad guys, the deep state is also reading this, so 699 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 1: we need to get them off the trail the same way, 700 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 1: for instance, that um in in statecraft, if you have 701 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 1: a compromised source, like a compromise spy source, a compromise 702 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: communication channel, or a compromise computer network, you never shut 703 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,359 Speaker 1: it down. Ideally, you go to a redundancy channel, right, 704 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 1: You go to a backup channel, and you keep that 705 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: other stuff running and you just fill it with crap. Yeah, 706 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,760 Speaker 1: exactly and it's incredible. Sorry, I just loved the idea 707 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 1: and then you just fill it with crap. That's true, 708 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 1: that's seriously what you do. That's beautiful. So now we 709 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 1: know that this the specificity in terms of the calendar claims. 710 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 1: It ended up shooting this concept in the foot for 711 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: a lot of people, and previous believers became somewhat disillusion 712 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:10,280 Speaker 1: But we also know that due to the vague nature 713 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: of those postings and the sort of zen cone one 714 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:19,399 Speaker 1: liner questions, uh, people who are proponents of this began saying, well, 715 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 1: we can explain some of the things that appear to 716 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 1: be incorrect by our interpretation, are understanding our realization of 717 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:34,840 Speaker 1: what they're actually saying in these statements, And now it 718 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,720 Speaker 1: leads us to an ugly truth Like it may sound 719 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 1: like we're it may sound like we are for some 720 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,879 Speaker 1: folks being harsh on the concept of Q and on, 721 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 1: but the fact is that the stuff that has been 722 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,400 Speaker 1: presented as proof and as indeed been presented as the 723 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:56,280 Speaker 1: strongest indication of proof or sand to the story has 724 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,359 Speaker 1: just hasn't held up to scrutiny at this point. Now, 725 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 1: if it's raw, if it turns out that there are 726 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 1: people who are wearing ankle monitor bracelets and and are 727 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: inklets or whatever and are just playing a role in 728 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 1: in public life until the the I don't know, the 729 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 1: pendulum swings or the hammer falls, and they all go 730 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: to Guantanamo. If that is true, then it has been 731 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 1: It is being pulled off immaculately. Well, it would be 732 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 1: one of the most successful examples of cooperation in the 733 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 1: recent history of our species. You're welcome, right right, but 734 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 1: doing all this behind the scenes, guys, but you're finally 735 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,359 Speaker 1: gonna let everyone know it was you, hu that it 736 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 1: was not me. Oh right, classic Q move. But I 737 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 1: want to talk about how the reason why it feels 738 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: unbelievable to a lot of people, um, and I would 739 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 1: say somewhat to myself, is because it's trying, or it's attempting, 740 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: or it has been made to be an uber conspiracy, 741 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 1: like the reason behind everything. Right, all of the things 742 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 1: that are bad that are happening that we're noticing out 743 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 1: there are all a part of this one thing. Yeah, 744 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 1: that's yeah. Did it just is it like that poem 745 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 1: where you know, the reach must exceed the grasp else 746 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,360 Speaker 1: what's to heaven for? Yeah? It went it. Maybe it 747 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,839 Speaker 1: went too big because if we look at the structure 748 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 1: of of the argument, it did attempt to and does 749 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 1: attempt to incorporate more and more things because it is crowdsourced. 750 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 1: You know, there are there are people who are getting 751 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 1: their own hobby horse in the Q and On conversation, right, 752 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 1: and then they're they're pushing that and that may actually 753 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 1: contradict things that other people are saying, although they are 754 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 1: supposed to be on the same team. Uh In your 755 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,360 Speaker 1: former supporters have reacted to this by saying Q itself 756 00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:01,240 Speaker 1: is compromised and also fairly persuasive argument that Twitter bots 757 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 1: or other bots out of Russia, I got ahold of 758 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: the information and mainstreamed it to Twitter, and the president 759 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 1: himself does seem to be at times tacitly supporting aspects 760 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: of the theory is retweeted accounts or statements or statements 761 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 1: from accounts that are have linked to Q. And you 762 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 1: know there of course, here we just have to talk 763 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 1: about a lot of a lot of people pointing out 764 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,319 Speaker 1: that at rallies, at political events in the background, you 765 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 1: will see quite often Q and On posters or or 766 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,320 Speaker 1: things that are written that appear to be in support 767 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,799 Speaker 1: of the q and on theory that is just. And 768 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:40,720 Speaker 1: it appears that from an optics standpoint, um, President Trump 769 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 1: hasn't worked to get that out of his you know, 770 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 1: political events. But again, how would one actually do that? There? 771 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 1: There are a lot of things there. There's a lot 772 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,279 Speaker 1: in there, and just I'm so sorry. I want to 773 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:57,320 Speaker 1: keep going here really quickly because as someone and I'm 774 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 1: gonna speak openly here, as someone who has dismissed this, 775 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 1: at least to a certain extent, um, I have to 776 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 1: acknowledge that the problems, the major problems that are outlined 777 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 1: by q Anon whoever this person is, um or whoever, 778 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,840 Speaker 1: whoever you know, whether or not they're compromised or whatever, 779 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,400 Speaker 1: the major problems that are outlined there, I know for 780 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 1: a fact are real. Give me an example, um, the 781 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 1: anyone running in this country for a Democratic or a 782 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,800 Speaker 1: Republican in part of the two party system, running for president, 783 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,240 Speaker 1: let's say, or high level positions and Senate Um, they 784 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,840 Speaker 1: work on either side of that aisle with the same, 785 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 1: many times the exact same money powers that help them 786 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 1: get there. We also know that giant corporations contribute equal 787 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:57,279 Speaker 1: amounts to both parties. They're hedging their bets depending on 788 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,360 Speaker 1: who who wins. You know, they want to be on 789 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 1: the right side of whoever is in power. I want 790 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 1: to go back to something here. There's something else that 791 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 1: I think the mainstream media is missing in the story 792 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 1: of Q and On and it is. This is so busy, 793 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,879 Speaker 1: you know, harping on the things that are easily dismissable, 794 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:22,359 Speaker 1: easily disprovable, But they're not hitting the primary question, which 795 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,440 Speaker 1: is why I think you're getting out here, Matt. It's this, 796 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,360 Speaker 1: there is There is no question that the world of 797 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 1: politics operates in two distinct spheres. First, what you the 798 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 1: public are sold in. Second, what happens behind the curtain. 799 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 1: We've talked about this on the show before. It's pretty 800 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,279 Speaker 1: obvious there tends to be more to the story than 801 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 1: the official narrative states, especially in high stakes situations like 802 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,839 Speaker 1: state level politics. Do you think diplomats of countries who 803 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 1: hate each other are not getting together on on phone 804 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,799 Speaker 1: calls and going like, hey man, you know the other 805 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 1: guy was kind of unreasonable, but let's see what we 806 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,719 Speaker 1: can work on with this together. Yes, And then do 807 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 1: you know, do you think they're not going in public 808 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 1: statements and going like you know, uh, death to disco 809 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 1: or whatever, and then calling the people who run the 810 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 1: disco and saying, hey, man, you know it's a it's 811 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,279 Speaker 1: kind of rough here, like could you give me a 812 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,279 Speaker 1: little let's see what we can work out. You know, 813 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 1: there's negotiation there. And the problem here is that they 814 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,000 Speaker 1: were also ignoring the fact that something like a deep 815 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 1: state does exist. It's just not as monolithic as some 816 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,320 Speaker 1: theories would have us believe. Like, is there a group 817 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 1: of just one, one small group of people that runs 818 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 1: the world. Probably not. Are there dozens of groups of 819 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 1: very powerful people in institutions who feel like they should 820 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 1: run the world. Absolutely, corporations right, private equity institutions, you 821 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:52,919 Speaker 1: know what I mean, very insulated ruling families of one 822 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:57,440 Speaker 1: nation or another. These are the things that operate like 823 00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,879 Speaker 1: the deep states that are talked about here. A deep 824 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,960 Speaker 1: is there's a bonology to evil, right, So so follow 825 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: the money, right, follow the money, or follow unelected civil 826 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 1: servants who have tremendous power and have their hands on 827 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 1: the levers of government and may have their own political agendas. 828 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying they're all automatically evil. I'm saying 829 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,320 Speaker 1: that if you listen to this, you can't gain elect 830 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 1: them and and it's very difficult for them to get fired. 831 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,319 Speaker 1: The notion of evil in the situation is kind of 832 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,799 Speaker 1: a misnomer. I think it's maybe it's greed or it's 833 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 1: just kind of control, but it's not necessarily inherently evil 834 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,880 Speaker 1: by its very nature. It's not trying to rape and 835 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 1: pillage and have to throw in there. A lot of 836 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,319 Speaker 1: this theory has to do with child sex abuse and 837 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 1: other abuse that's in there and other young adults, and 838 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,759 Speaker 1: we have found recently, no no, last year, that that 839 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 1: stuff is very much real, and powerful people, very specific 840 00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 1: like aberrant, you know, click of powerful people that believe 841 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 1: they deserve whatever it is that they want, and they're 842 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 1: creepy fetishes or whatever they feel like they are owed. 843 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 1: The ones that we've identified, we've identified. But I don't 844 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,760 Speaker 1: think that. I think the notion that all powerful people 845 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 1: are inherently like pedophilic sex fiends is absolutely not Yeah, no, 846 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,000 Speaker 1: absolutely that is not true. That is not true. But 847 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,240 Speaker 1: like this show does, and as we explore every time, 848 00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,799 Speaker 1: sometimes it is true. The UK, the Franklin scandal, the 849 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 1: Epstein scandal, Belgium, it's just four yeah. So so this 850 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,799 Speaker 1: is true, but it's also it's it is you know, 851 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 1: it works really well as red meat to motivate people 852 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 1: because it's something that it's something that no decent human 853 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 1: being would somehow justify, you know what I mean. Anybody 854 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 1: who supported that is a bad person and also one 855 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,360 Speaker 1: other thing. So so the truth is disturbing, right this, 856 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,400 Speaker 1: This didn't come from nothing. There are people that you 857 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,760 Speaker 1: will never meet, that you will never elect, who control 858 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,959 Speaker 1: more aspects of your life and the globe than any 859 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:13,320 Speaker 1: one person or one institution should. However, without solid proof, 860 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,440 Speaker 1: we also can't blame critics who say that Q itself 861 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,400 Speaker 1: was just an Internet roll stringing people along for the lulls. 862 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,320 Speaker 1: You remember, lulls met the lows. I got so many lows, 863 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:31,759 Speaker 1: oh man, and I did most everything for them. So 864 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,120 Speaker 1: so there we are. This is the story of Q 865 00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 1: and on so far, just a high level look, and 866 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,760 Speaker 1: you can read more about it in depth, including specific 867 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,160 Speaker 1: claims which, as we said, lead in all sorts of directions. 868 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:49,160 Speaker 1: The idea that Angela Merkel is the daughter of Adolph Hitler, 869 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,640 Speaker 1: that Kim Jong n was was put in place by 870 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,800 Speaker 1: the CIA to start a war if it was needed, 871 00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 1: that his genetics didn't even factor into it, right, right, 872 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 1: And you can see you can see all these things. 873 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,840 Speaker 1: This is a crossover events. This is also even linking 874 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,960 Speaker 1: to the Titanic, to the old idea that JP Morgan 875 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,280 Speaker 1: sunk it so we can form the FED Reserve. Because 876 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,839 Speaker 1: it sounds a little bit like somebody took our show, 877 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 1: blasted it out into all these various things, and then 878 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,960 Speaker 1: just connected them all back together a little bit, doesn't it. 879 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:31,360 Speaker 1: Paul was Q all along. We were talking at the 880 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 1: top of the show about famous ques Uh and I 881 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 1: didn't know this is this is the thing that you 882 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 1: you you hit me to the queue as a clearance level. 883 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,919 Speaker 1: Does that mean it's like the number of clearances as 884 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 1: Q is chronologically in the alphabet. Are there that many? 885 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,240 Speaker 1: Or is it just like there's like a clearance SEE 886 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 1: clearance and then Q clearances. It just sounds dope, there's 887 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 1: an L clearance like Q clearance is just the d 888 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,040 Speaker 1: o es equivalent of what we would call top secret 889 00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,680 Speaker 1: out of their places. But just to be clear, we 890 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 1: don't know who Q is. If it's one person, if 891 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 1: it's some kind of weird copy pasta thing like I mean, 892 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,279 Speaker 1: and we have and and you know, just to the 893 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,840 Speaker 1: veracity of these claims in these posts. To me, it 894 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 1: sounds mostly like gobbledegook um. Is the way that it's 895 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 1: formatted indicative of some kind of you know, real brief. 896 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,920 Speaker 1: Is that the way a brief like this would be disseminated, 897 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 1: we have do we have any reason to believe that 898 00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,920 Speaker 1: there's any veracity to these claims that people are just 899 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 1: going so gaga over? So The interesting thing about that 900 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 1: is there are plenty of people who do believe that 901 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,040 Speaker 1: they have cracked the case, and they believe it based 902 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:42,800 Speaker 1: on what they see. Is there uh psychological their their 903 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 1: ability to divine or decipher the psychology behind the statement. 904 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,920 Speaker 1: But to be completely honest, no one, none of the 905 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:56,680 Speaker 1: true believers uh unanimously agree on the identity. I think 906 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 1: it's interesting too when you see reporting about this um 907 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,320 Speaker 1: the folks are referred to as followers, which really does 908 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,720 Speaker 1: give it like almost this cult like status, which makes 909 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:11,439 Speaker 1: sense because it's based on what essentially amounts to some 910 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 1: sort of weird mystical political scripture. Like I said at 911 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:17,160 Speaker 1: the top of the show, it reminds it sounds like 912 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 1: a weird poem because the way it's written is almost 913 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,800 Speaker 1: like a riddle or like some kind of strange incantation. 914 00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 1: Almost it does have this very odd religious quality to it. Yeah, 915 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 1: there's a doomsday aspect, I think. And at this point 916 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 1: we have to mention that this is ongoing. You can 917 00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:40,439 Speaker 1: visit any number of sites now and you can hear 918 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 1: the the current debate because despite the fact that numerous 919 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 1: predictions have proven to be untrue, uh, the people do 920 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,720 Speaker 1: continue to support this belief uh. And people do continue 921 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,880 Speaker 1: to argue that there that the things that may appear 922 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 1: to be missteps in policy are purposeful and happening for 923 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,640 Speaker 1: some reason that will be revealed at a later date 924 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,760 Speaker 1: which has been predicted numerous times, has never been the 925 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,880 Speaker 1: correct date, but apparently may come to pass as how 926 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,200 Speaker 1: predictions go. And then it's always like that, I will say, 927 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,520 Speaker 1: in terms of like, how is this going to continue 928 00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 1: to linger? I think largely it may um because of 929 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 1: the fact that the President keeps retweeting some of these sources. 930 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 1: You know, folks with screen names like jan bought three five, 931 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,720 Speaker 1: four two two, the kinds of screen names that are 932 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,960 Speaker 1: typically associated with these you know, Russian bots that are 933 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,640 Speaker 1: disseminating all this misinformation. And we've talked about this off air. 934 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 1: Whether the president I'm sorry it was debport zero three 935 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,080 Speaker 1: seven zero seven six, Whether or not the president is 936 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:54,800 Speaker 1: purposefully trying to disseminate this too, criticize his rivals at 937 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:59,120 Speaker 1: any cost, whether or not that cost is pushing dangerous 938 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 1: potentially dange yours misinformation out to his what seventy million followers, 939 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,960 Speaker 1: or whether he thinks it's cute funny. He does that 940 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,479 Speaker 1: often and he'll think something's just kind of a funny joke, 941 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 1: or you know, puts egg on the face of one 942 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:17,120 Speaker 1: of his political rivals. I don't know which one it is. 943 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,160 Speaker 1: But the fact is that over the holiday weekend he 944 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:24,800 Speaker 1: retweeted q and on sources um something like twenty five times, 945 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:29,880 Speaker 1: and then kept retweeting responses to his retweets from other 946 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,520 Speaker 1: q and on accounts. That's that's the thing, though, to 947 01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,280 Speaker 1: a twitter like, once you get once you get hooked in, 948 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,320 Speaker 1: I'm slapping my arm with two fingers in the impression 949 01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 1: of like addicts. Once you get hooked into the tweets 950 01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,360 Speaker 1: and the retweets, you just start retweeting. It's so easy. 951 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 1: It's a slippery, slippery slope. Be careful, do you guys? 952 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,800 Speaker 1: Think he still does his own tweets, Yes, like just 953 01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,280 Speaker 1: he's got a device. He he refused, He's not supposed to, 954 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,440 Speaker 1: but I believe he refused to give it up. Yeah. Recently, 955 01:00:55,840 --> 01:01:01,680 Speaker 1: recently the President notified, uh notified Congress via social media 956 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:07,200 Speaker 1: that he that his tweets uh and declarations on social 957 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:11,720 Speaker 1: media did count as official policy declarations or informing Congress. 958 01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,760 Speaker 1: You can read that. I don't think that tweet will 959 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,600 Speaker 1: be deleted by the time this comes out, but don't 960 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:21,480 Speaker 1: let the conversation. And here, folks, we want to hear 961 01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,520 Speaker 1: from you. What's your opinion. Is there a Q and 962 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:29,360 Speaker 1: On prediction that did come true? Uh? And if so, 963 01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,520 Speaker 1: what we'd like to hear about it. We'd like to 964 01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 1: hear about it from you. You can find us and 965 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,840 Speaker 1: your fellow listeners on Facebook, on Instagram, on Twitter, where 966 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,760 Speaker 1: or some derivation of conspiracy stuff or conspiracy stuff show. 967 01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:46,320 Speaker 1: We highly recommend our Facebook page. Here's where it gets crazy. 968 01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:50,439 Speaker 1: Uh and Uh, you know the memes alone, Oh, it's 969 01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,920 Speaker 1: gonna be rife within them after this episode. I can 970 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,640 Speaker 1: only imagine. Um. You can head over to Amazon search 971 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:01,480 Speaker 1: Q and on and find the dozens of titles that 972 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 1: are based on this this topic. If you wish to 973 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:08,439 Speaker 1: read more, um, or just you know, consult your your 974 01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:13,320 Speaker 1: local slash po l slash which stands for politically incorrect. 975 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:14,880 Speaker 1: And I know that now and I've learned my lesson 976 01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,400 Speaker 1: and it's okay and we're gonna be fine. Um. If 977 01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,360 Speaker 1: you don't want to do that stuff, you can find 978 01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,960 Speaker 1: me on Call of Duty Mobile where I'm std w 979 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 1: y t K. Wait there's a Call of Duty mobile, 980 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,320 Speaker 1: Yes there is, and I would love to play around 981 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:33,720 Speaker 1: the team Deathmatcher Domination with you. Uh totally into it, um, 982 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:37,040 Speaker 1: loving it and I'm I'm pretty good at it. So 983 01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,440 Speaker 1: watch what else there is? There's a Mario Kart mobile 984 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,400 Speaker 1: now it's pretty damn good. And there's also uh Tony 985 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,680 Speaker 1: Hawks skate Jam yeah, which is like sort of like 986 01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,240 Speaker 1: a mobile version of pro skater Man. These mobile these 987 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,680 Speaker 1: little devices just keep getting stronger and stronger. Well, I 988 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:55,080 Speaker 1: believe Call of Duty maybe sponsoring this show soon. That'd 989 01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:59,160 Speaker 1: be cool. So watching boys from what I hear? What's 990 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,040 Speaker 1: your weapon at choice? So you a groundsman? Are you 991 01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:06,480 Speaker 1: a snipeman? Snipes snipesterally? I am not a gamer. I 992 01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:11,640 Speaker 1: prefer a healthy assault rifle with a nice scope on it. 993 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:15,560 Speaker 1: Got it. That's accurate and reliable. And if you don't 994 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:19,640 Speaker 1: have call of duty, you can call us directly. We 995 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,640 Speaker 1: have a phone number as well. Yes, the number is 996 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,400 Speaker 1: one eight three three st d w y t K. 997 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:31,760 Speaker 1: It's your duty. Yeah, we did it. Um. 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