1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Ron Anian, I understand what it is to deal with 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: broken cars. It it hits me at a personal level, 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: which hits me at a professional level. And I know 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: why you asked the questions you asked. Is the rest 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: of the car okay? And that's a great question to ask. 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: I don't fear grand and you know, the car doctor. 7 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: We want to take off the INTI manifold and a 8 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: valve cover. Gat about cover because they're different. And take 9 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: the intake manifold and the valve cover off the two 10 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: four and and put it on the two bound two 11 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: which is in the cart. Right. That should work. Welcome 12 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: to the radio home of ron and Anian, the Car Doctor, 13 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world to overturn 14 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your 15 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone 16 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: and call in the garage to orders are open. But 17 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: I am here to take your calls at eight five 18 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: five five and now running. Where do I start this week? 19 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: I you know, I gotta warn you I'm not in 20 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: a great mood. Um. It's been an automotive week on 21 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: both sides of the counter. This week in the Inanian household. Um, 22 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: you know the part shortage thing, and we'll start here 23 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: that the supply chain problem hits home right. It's it's 24 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: getting a little too close for comfort. Now. The UH 25 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: Escape that we purchased new back eight years ago, nine 26 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: years ago, hundred fifty thousand miles on it puked the 27 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: trans this week and my daughter took it into the 28 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: local Ford dealer where she is out in Pittsburgh, and um, 29 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: they claim they diagnosed it. I don't understand this yet. 30 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to say too much, just that, you know, 31 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: they charge your four dollars to tell you it has 32 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: a bad transmission. But she never signed the paper. To 33 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: my knowledge, she never signed the paper authorizing any kind 34 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: of a diagnosis, which was you know, she signed something, 35 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: but it had no diagnostic charges on it, which I, 36 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: there's something getting finagal there, and I gotta go look 37 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: at it. And I don't want to get involved, but 38 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: now I gotta get involved. But that isn't even the 39 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: bigger problem. The bigger problem is, so they looked at it, 40 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: they say it needs a trans and there isn't one 41 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: available for anywhere from eight to ten weeks, no release date, 42 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: and site can't give us an approximate ship date, can't 43 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: tell us if and when. Um. On top of which, 44 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: it's eight grand to put a trans in an eight 45 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: year old escape. So your logic goes back to you 46 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: know what do you do? Now? You gotta go out 47 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: and find a car I guess because you can't find 48 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: this transmission that and there's no guarantee you'll show up 49 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: in eight weeks or ten weeks, so you know, then 50 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: the toe at home from Pittsburgh and fix it in 51 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: New Jersey. I don't know, is it is it worth 52 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: the effort? Is that what it's come down to, but 53 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: to make to make something interesting out of this? So 54 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: I decided the center out, know what, go car shopping, 55 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: see what that becomes, and and how does that work out? Um? 56 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you, I think I think the 57 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: dealers are playing a game. And I don't like to 58 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: pick on dealers too much, well not too much, but 59 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: it seems like the new thing she's hearing, that she's 60 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: telling me is that every dealer she goes to is 61 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: offering free lifetime oil changes or two years worth of 62 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: oil changes, or they're extending the warranty on the drive train, 63 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: engine and transmission but it's only valid at this dealership. 64 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: So the dealerships are using the price point of extending 65 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: a warranty that you've got to figure the consumers paying 66 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: for on the back side, right, because they're not going 67 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: to give something away for free. So they're probably putting 68 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: some form of an extended warranty on these vehicles. And 69 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, it looks like they're doing something for you 70 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: when they're not, because I've get to see anybody in 71 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: business do something for free, really for free, because everybody's 72 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: in business to make money. That's the name of the 73 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: game to a degree. It's just how do they go 74 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: about it? So that's kind of on my plate this week. 75 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: Uh you know, how do I chandle how do I 76 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: handle that? And I'm kind of thinking about that. I'm 77 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: thinking about the oh seven Toyota Tacoma that UM we 78 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: were trying to revive this week. UM vehicle had a 79 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: it melted. You know, you just wonder how good things 80 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: happened to vehicles that or you know, just dumb things. 81 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: The wiring harness that comes down off the main engine harness. 82 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: I think we talked about this a couple of weeks ago, 83 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: had corroded and rotted in the main wiring harness connector 84 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: that goes down and feeds the valve body. Um fourteen wires, 85 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: fourteen pins, and four of the pins had actually rotted 86 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: right off the connector on the side of the trans 87 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: and to repair that, Toyota wants you to replace the 88 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: entire wiring harness. The wiring harness was upwards of eighteen 89 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: hundred dollars plus. You'd have to pull the body off 90 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: the frame in order to get to it because it's 91 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: all tucked up and underned. It's just you know, thars 92 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: later you can have this wiring harness repair. You know, 93 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: we we got to get back to common sense. And 94 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: it seems like the insanity of the automobiles that technology 95 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: increases every day. Um, it's just it's just that much 96 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: harder and that much more, and it just doesn't make 97 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: a lot of sense to me. I went looking, I 98 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: went digging. I said, somebody's gotta there's gotta be a 99 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: way out of this. And sure enough, right Dorman makes 100 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: a a wiring harness connector Dormant Products dot Com. Thank 101 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: God for Dorman. I say this, it seems like I'm 102 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: saying it more and more lately. They actually got smart. 103 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: They looked at the part that fails like they usually do, 104 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: and they offer a wiring harness connector that will you 105 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: just you know, you're gonna cut wires one at a time, 106 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: solder and heat shrink. Solder and heat shrink fourteen times 107 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: and you're done. And it's a little tedious, it's a 108 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: it's a it's a little bit difficult to do in 109 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: terms of you know what you've got to do there 110 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: and and under the car and you're there for a 111 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: couple of hours doing this sold repair on very tiny wires. 112 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: But you know what, got the job done and that 113 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: was a good thing. That was one of the few 114 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: good things this week that that occurred, because the rest 115 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: of it was just you know, goofy insane stuff. Um 116 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: to get the trans pan down on this Toyota at 117 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: the comment and I was surprised at this because I 118 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: thought more of Toyota. The six millimeter thread, ten millimeter. 119 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: He's head bolts that hold the trans pan to the transmission. 120 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: There's a little tension washer there to maintain load across 121 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: the face of the gasket as it holds the pants 122 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: of the trans and you know, fifteen years later the 123 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: bolts because they came through the other side of the 124 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: trans case. I guess moisture laid at the top of 125 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: the bolt and corroded it away, and now, unfortunately, soaking 126 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: it with every magical lixture I could under the sun, 127 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: actually got a few of them out. P B Blaster 128 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: did work and get a few of the bolts out. 129 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: But the bigger problem was that tensioning washer had wedged 130 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: the rust and caused the US to build up, so 131 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: you were you were actually ripping more than turning, and 132 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: out of the twenty pan bolts, fourteen of them broke 133 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:13,679 Speaker 1: heads with the thread portion flush broken in the transmission itself. 134 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: I said, gee, maybe I started put a trans in 135 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: this fifty fifteen year old vehicle. But sure enough, just 136 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: like the Ford Escape that you can't get a transmission 137 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: for when I talk to Toyota, you can't get a 138 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: transmission from one of those either. Um. I suspect we're 139 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: all gonna be walking. So I'm gonna start a sneaker 140 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: store because I'll be able to make money selling people 141 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: sneakers because I won't have any parts to sell at 142 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: the right we're going. Um, it's just it's getting ugly. 143 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: Out there, folks, and it's getting uglier every day. You 144 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to get any sneakers either. Yeah, well 145 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: there's channel tom. I hadn't thought of that. I figured, 146 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: but it's bad. It's bad. You just can't get parts. 147 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: So I I spent thirty bucks on the snap on truck, 148 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: and I bought a super duper titanium magic drill bit, 149 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: and I spent Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday drilling upside down, um, 150 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, looking through a magnifying glass, and just to 151 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: make sure I was right on the tip of the point. 152 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: And I actually drilled right down the center barrel of 153 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: all fourteen bolts, and then you know, got it, got 154 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: it out as thin as I could, and then took 155 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: a six millimeter tap and rent it up all the 156 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: holes and broke up the remaining material, and I was 157 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: able to save the case. Of course. Then the next 158 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: problem was because the problems kind of came in waves. 159 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: It was every time we turned around, another wave was 160 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: rolling up. There was a six millimeter thread telement leader 161 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: hex holding the wiring harness connector that originally corroded into 162 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: the body of the trans The problem with that is 163 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: the bolt was facing straight up, so it's it's not 164 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: something I could drill if it broke. And it broke, 165 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: I soaked it, I heated it. I tried every trick 166 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: under the sun. Nothing would actually get this bolt out. 167 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: It started to turn a little bit, and then all 168 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: of a sudden, we at least expected it playing. And 169 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: then I remember going to the dentist. You ever go 170 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 1: to the dentist. I have a lot of respects for 171 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: the hygienist that the dentist right, because she can work 172 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 1: backwards upside down with a mirror. And I said, well, heck, 173 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: if she can do it, I can do it. And 174 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: I got out of big mirror and I taped it 175 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: up in place under the floor pan of the vehicle, 176 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: and I positioned a flashlight just right, and I got 177 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: out a right angle drill bit or right angle drill 178 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: with a with a good stubby drill bit in it. 179 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: And you know what, within two attempts, I was able 180 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: to drill backwards upside down and get that bolt drilled out, 181 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: ran the tap through, and got a bolt in, held 182 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: the new plastic plug in place. So it was that. 183 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: It was that kind of a week. I was doing 184 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: a lot of things upside down and backwards, um, which 185 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of you can relate to because 186 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: sometimes it seems that's how your week goes, right. Um. 187 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: But I'm just surprised. I'm surprised at Toyota that, you know, 188 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: to create a product, because they have such a good 189 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: reputation that and evidently this is a this is a 190 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: bane among Toyota vehicle owners that these vehicles as they age, 191 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: the steel just you know, welds itself for lack of 192 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: a better word, into the aluminum casing and it creates 193 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: a uh, it creates an issue, let's say it like that. 194 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: So if you haven't had your Toyota the Commach transmission 195 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: service ever, or you're about to be aware that there's 196 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: the potential for, you know, for a problem, I'll leave 197 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: you with this tip before we pull over and take 198 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: the pus. So one of the bolts actually started to 199 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: come out and then it snapped off. So I had 200 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: a little bit of a stub of the threads of 201 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: the bolts sticking out, and I'm looking at that and 202 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, how am I going to get that out? 203 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: And I remember the old trick I haven't used in 204 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: a while. I got it. I got a little six 205 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: millimeter nut out of the back room and I hammered 206 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: it onto the threads that were sticking out of the 207 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: trans case. Then I got the mid welder out and 208 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: I mid welded the bolt. I'm sorry. I mid welded 209 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: the nut right to the top of the body of 210 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: the bolt. The piece was left in the transmission. I 211 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: just welded it right to the top. I waited. I 212 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: quenched it with water because I want to give it 213 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: a shock. I quenched it. I waited, and it was 214 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: really kind of neat to see it. After forty five 215 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: seconds of sitting, and it was it was engine temperature, 216 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, room temperature, right. It was cool to the touch. 217 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: It didn't move. I waited another thirty seconds because I've 218 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: seen this phenomenon over and over again, and it actually 219 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: cooled down a little bit more, and I just took 220 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: the nut and just walked the stud out by hand. 221 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: Because the welding superheated it. It heated the stud, it 222 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: made it expand into the aluminum. It finally cooled down 223 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: and contracted, and then it just came out on its own. 224 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: So remember that if you're gonna service your Toyota trans 225 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: Make sure you've got a welder nearby. Let's pull over, 226 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: take a pause. Five six zero zero Ron, any of 227 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: the car doctor rate your service coming back, don't go away? 228 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: It's he drives that way. But when it comes to 229 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: fixing cars, Ron has card advice done right eight five 230 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: five five zero nine zero zero. Here's Ron. Hey, by 231 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: the way, this week is it this week? I think 232 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: it's this week? Well, whatever, whatever week we decided to 233 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: do it. Um, nobody's expressed interest in it. I'm looking 234 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: for someone that really wants it. But I've got a 235 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: great book, a Porsche se versary book detailing all the 236 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: highlights of Porsche and uh, you know how they came 237 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: to be what they are. It's a great color picture, 238 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: hardcover book by Randy Laffingwell, and we're going to giving 239 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: it away. You know what, first first person that wants 240 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: it gets it, and uh, let's let's make it like that. 241 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: But you've got to tell me why you really want it. 242 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: You can't say I just want it because I want it. 243 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: You gotta give us a reason. So decision of Tom 244 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: is final. I'll leave it up to Tom. I always 245 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: put it on his shoulders. Let's huh want it because 246 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: it has pictures no words? Well, let's it. I like 247 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: I like things with pictures. It's just it's easier to 248 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: read that one. But it's a great book, it really is. 249 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: And right behind that, we're gonna give away a book. 250 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: We've got this thing. It's the seventieth anniversary of Corvette. 251 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 1: I got a bunch of books. I'm cleaning out the 252 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: book closet this year and uh making room for new stuff. 253 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 1: And let's put stuff out there. I've got I've got 254 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: enough books and enough pictures. So we're gonna give away 255 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: things going into the holidays. Let's go over to Chuck 256 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: in Texas, Oh nine, four f one and fifty Chuck, 257 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor. How can I help Ryan? 258 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: Thanks for taking my call. You're welcome. What do you got? Yeah? 259 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: Two days ago, Um, driving home from work. I guess 260 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't that about maybe forty or forty five, and 261 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: a sudden vibration came. I thought the front wheel has 262 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: fallen off. So I took my foot off the accelerator 263 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: and coasted and everything smoothed out. When I put my 264 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: foot back on the gas that vibration was so severe 265 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: was back again, so I knew I had an engine 266 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: vibration obviously I'm missing. So I got it home, check 267 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: engine light on shut was the check engine light flashing? Okay, 268 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: so it's got a misfire go ahead. So I then 269 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: at lunch when the next day, took it to rallies, 270 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: how to put the code get it out of it? 271 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: The P zero three zero one? So um. I then said, well, 272 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: it's either maybe the coils back. I know, I just 273 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: put plugs in thirty thousand miles ago, and I just 274 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: changed the coils maybe ten thousand miles ago. But I 275 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: bought one anyway and I put it on. That didn't 276 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: solve the problem. Then I'm thinking maybe I got a 277 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: clock of fueling je here. So talking to the guy, 278 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: the Ford specialist, guy who rebuilt the whole timing on 279 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: this thing about ten thousand miles ago, I told him 280 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: the situation. He said, just unplugged, you're you're quel injected 281 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: for number one. Just in case you're jumping raw fueling's 282 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: nott igniting, you don't destroy your catt a converter. So 283 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: I did that. Then today I'm downtown and I went 284 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: to an auto place. Adam, do just check it out. 285 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: And the guy calls me back after a little while 286 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: at being there and he says, it's it's firing. But 287 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: the timing, I guess is so bad from the vc T. 288 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: He said, they go bad, they stick open or something 289 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: like that. I did buy new ones, so I'm hoping 290 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: that's the only problem with it now. When I picked 291 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: it up from him about an hour ago, after he 292 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: looked at he wouldn't do anything. He said, that's a 293 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: very complicated injury with venturry and porch for oil and 294 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: all that through the valve control timing. They didn't want 295 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: to touch it. But it's evidently it's running smooth now. 296 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: But I gotta get the VCT. So I'm guessing that 297 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: is the problem that would cause number one to be 298 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: that bad. Well, no, if if there was a problem 299 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: with v v T or VCT whatever we want to 300 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: call it, on one bank or the other, it should 301 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: affect more than one cylinder. So you know, we're we're 302 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: talking about something that's affecting one cylinder. Why don't we 303 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: do this all right? If you know you're a handy 304 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: guy and you like to do things, uh, well, before 305 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: we start moving things around. My first thought as if 306 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: somebody has access to a scan tool that's you know, 307 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: got forward factory level software in it, you can do 308 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: a cylinder power balance test and actually turn off individual 309 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: injectors and look to see rpm drop. I mean just 310 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: like in the old days when we used to kill 311 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: spark to a cylinder and just look to see power 312 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: contribution on that cylinder. But you can do a you 313 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: can do two things actually with a forward factory scan tool. UM, 314 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: just you know, stop looking for what's bad, tell me 315 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: what's good. UM. Number One, we can do a power 316 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: balance contribution test, canceling injectors looking to see power contribution. 317 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: Number two, we can do a cranking rpm test and 318 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: look to see does each cylinder pull equal amounts of 319 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: current out of the starter. And we know that mechanically 320 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: compression is you know good, doesn't give you a number, 321 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: It just gives you a comparison to the other cylinders 322 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: and relativity. So if they all came out in the green, 323 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: we know that, yeah, they're all reasonably equal. Compression. It 324 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: takes the same amount of current draw to put each 325 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: pushy piston up on the compression stroke as it comes around. 326 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: I would tell you, you know, those two things would 327 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: make more sense to me, at least test it. If 328 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: you're telling me it runs good now, then yes, something 329 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: was sticky, stuck, intermittent failure. Okay, before I got into 330 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: tear down and started moving things, you know, just swapping 331 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: things unknowingly, my next step would be, put the coil 332 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: on number two, put the injector on number three, put 333 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: the spark plug on number four, or however you want 334 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: to move them around and see where does the misfire follow. 335 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: If the misfire stays on cylinder one, you know it's 336 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: some sort of a mechanical issue on cylinder one. If 337 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: the cylinder, if it follows the injector, it's injector. If 338 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: it's coil, it's coil. If it's plug, it's plug. I mean, 339 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: I don't care how old or how new something is. Chuck. 340 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: If you know, I've had new stuff five thousand miles 341 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: act up. I've had you know, old stuff a hundred 342 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: fifty thous miles on it just drop dead. So you 343 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: know what what's the difference. Um, I still gotta test it, 344 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: was my point. Yeah, yeah, I do. I understand. But 345 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: as you know, I follow this guy quite a bit 346 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: on YouTube. It's Macolucal board technicians. And he said, on 347 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: a high miles vehicle. And I'm sure those VCT valves 348 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: are original that they do get a varnage build up 349 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: and they're boarded. Fine, I'll tell you what. Sit tight, 350 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: Sit tight. Let me pull over, take this pug. We'll 351 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: come back. We'll continue real quick. I'm on needing the car. Doctors, 352 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: don't go away. Welcome back, running in the car doctor 353 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: here at five zero zero zero. The phone number, five 354 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: five five zero zero quality a message. Tom Ray will 355 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: call you back and get you in the next live broadcast, 356 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: next live. Que Chuck, you're still there down Texas? Why 357 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: so listen, listen to me. And I know who you're 358 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: speaking of, Muluco. He's a good guy, he's a good 359 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: Ford tech um. But maybe he was maybe he misunderstood 360 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: your question to him, because you are you're only telling 361 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: me you're having a problem on one cylinder right P 362 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: zero three oh one's correct? If it was? If it 363 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: was a one. And when I took it this morning 364 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: to this technician, he said there was two codes. I said, well, 365 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: what's the other one? And the other one was the 366 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: fuel injector was unplucked. So I got that, But that's 367 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: the only code I got right. So, so before we 368 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: get deeper into is it a variable valve timing issue? 369 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: Is it a solenoid? Is it a phaser? Now understand 370 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: you know again Ford level software scan tool. They can 371 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: advance the cam, they can retard the cam, they can 372 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: control the phasers, they can run the VCT solenoids through 373 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: their through a drill. But before we get into any 374 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: of that, because I failed to see why I would 375 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: want to diagnose that when I've only got it on 376 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: one cylinder. You know, I know you understand this. When 377 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: it advances or retards the CAM, it's doing it for 378 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: the entire bank. If the CAM was stuck, over retarded, 379 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: over retarded or over advanced or vice versa, wouldn't affect 380 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: all the cylinders. Wouldn't have fact all the cylinders on 381 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: that bank. You would think I would I would think 382 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: it would do one through exactly. So before we go there, 383 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: why don't we spend two hours. It's not the worst. 384 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: The injector is the hardest thing to get out, but 385 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: it's still not the worst thing to do. Why don't 386 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: we move the injector, move the coil, move the plug. 387 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: If that's what we're gonna do, all right. And then 388 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: if the problem still comes back to cylinder number one, 389 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: all right, and you know, can I do afford cranking 390 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: test with Ford level software? I look to see do 391 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: I have a good mechanical compression, you know? And then 392 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: again is the problem gone right now? If the if 393 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: the problem is gone right now, all right, then I've 394 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: got to you know, regroup. Okay, I've got to go back, 395 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: and I'm dealing with an intermittent. But first of all, 396 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: I don't like the idea of unplugging an injector, all 397 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: right on a temporary basis. Yeah, but we haven't tested anything. 398 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: What are you gonna do if you find out you 399 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: go through all this, do a v C T do whatever? Okay, 400 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: bang boom? What are you gonna do if you find 401 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: out that it's a bad driver in the PCM for 402 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: number one fuel injector? Right? We haven't tested any power 403 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: control module problems, right which, and you know, just which 404 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: essentially is the computer of the truck, right which, although 405 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: for that we should really set a P zero two 406 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: oh one injector driver or injector circuit fault, and we're not. 407 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: We're setting a regular misfire faull. So let's not overthink this. 408 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: Let's not make Swiss cheese out of milk, all right, 409 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: Let's let's start at the basics. You prove what's good. 410 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: But what this guy was telling me was that when 411 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: I took it to him and he plugged the injector 412 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: back in, he said, the engine smoothed out. He said 413 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: that that's a very precise. There's oil porch and everything 414 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: for that camp phase that operate. And he said, if 415 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: that VCT valve is screwed up, then it's gonna have 416 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: that timing advance forward all the way. But why would 417 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: he just do it to one right? That's and that's 418 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: my point. So his theory is sound. He's right, but 419 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: you would see it on all the cylinders on that bank, 420 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: not just one cylinder. I haven't seen that. I have 421 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: not seen it where VCT affects one cylinder. It affects 422 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: the bank period, all right. So I think there was 423 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: some miscommunication there. So I think that's what you've got 424 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: to go back and either get clarity on him from that. 425 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 1: How does it affect one cylinder? I'd like to hear 426 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: the theory on that, and if not, why aren't we 427 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: Why aren't we doing continued diagnosis? Prove what's good, you'll 428 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: find what's bad. All right, Okay, it's gonna go. It's 429 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: gonna go back to my forward specialist here who did 430 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: the top end timing. So he's gonna do it right. 431 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: So let him go through those tests. He'll have a 432 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: scan tool that's got the stuff in it. Let him 433 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: go through mechanical compression, and then again, if the problem 434 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: isn't there right now, you may not find anything. So 435 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: one step at a time, I'm going I'm still going 436 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: to pull the VCT and put well, either that or 437 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: why don't you swap him side to side? You gotta 438 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: take the valve covers off to do that. Okay, I 439 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: want to swap him side to side. You really, you're 440 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: gonna believe that the new ones are any good? You're 441 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: gonna go on that basis. I got a feeling. I 442 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: got a feeling. I fully original out. I'm gonna see 443 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: it maybe has a long screen, or it's full of oars, 444 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: or the spring that actuates the valve it has broken. 445 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: But didn't we just say that how could it affect 446 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: one cylinder? Yeah? True? And now it's running smooth. Right, 447 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: So you're you're you're arguing with yourself. You're negotiating with yourself. 448 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: Charge all right, So diagnostics begin at the beginning. Take 449 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: a breath, take a step back, start small, then go big. 450 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: All right, kidd alright, I gotta go talk to let 451 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: me know what happens. Thank you. See, Let's go over 452 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: to uh tell you what. Let's do this real quick, 453 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: and then when we come back, we'll go to Ralph 454 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: in Long Island. Actually, you know what, I was gonna 455 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: read Ralph's email. I got Ralph on the phone. Let's 456 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: go to Ralph in Long Island. Ralph, talk to me. 457 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: Good story you thanks, thanks for taking my call. You're welcome. 458 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: Tell me the story. Tell us all the story about 459 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: your hunday quest. Okay, yeah, So I uh I am 460 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: the second or. I have a two thousand six Hundai Sonata. 461 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: Uh I bought it in two thousand seven from the 462 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: original owner. And the car has been a dream. It's 463 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: taken great care of me and um no issues, no, certainly, 464 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: no major issues with the car for all this time. 465 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: It's got a hundred and fifty seven thousand miles on it. 466 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: And one day I had a recall us. So I 467 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: took it to the dealer. It's the only reason why 468 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: I take it to the dealer. And um as as 469 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: they were going through the recall, one of the mechanics, 470 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: one of the lead mechanics, looked at the car and says, oh, yeah, 471 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: they made him good in that year. You know. He says, 472 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: you know I have I have one, and they have 473 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: to pry it from my my dead hands before I 474 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: before I get another one. And so I said, tell 475 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: me a little bit more about that. He says, between 476 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: two thousand and six and two thousand ten, they made 477 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: a great car. And uh So with that, um I 478 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: took that away and I decided, you know, the mileage 479 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: is getting high and probably at some point we'll we'll 480 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: get me. So maybe I'll start looking for one. And 481 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: this goes back about four years ago. And uh you know, 482 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: it's great when you look for a car when you 483 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: don't need one. And sure enough I found a two 484 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: thousand seven hun Day driven. You know the old story, 485 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: a little old lady went to went grocery shopping into Bingo. 486 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: It had fifty miles on it, and so I pounced 487 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: on it. I I got that and uh so now 488 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: I figured I keep the two thousand and six as 489 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: a parts car, and um and and and that's you know, 490 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: they both run. They you know, it could be a 491 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: daily driver. Um so. But with the market being to 492 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: use cars what it is, my thought process was, I 493 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: don't know how many things were available or will be 494 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: available for this going forward in the future. But my 495 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: question to you is should I cash in on the 496 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: used car market now and you know, and and and 497 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: and take advantage of that, or should I continue holding 498 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: on hold onto it for a parts car. Excellent question, 499 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what. I'll give you the answer 500 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: as soon as they come back. Don't go anywhere I'm 501 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: running any of The Car Doctor will be back right 502 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: after this. Hey, welcome back. We're on name of the 503 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Here at five zero. We're talking with Ralph 504 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: from Long Island about a O six Hondays Sonata and 505 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: the dilemma of two Hundays. What do you do, Ralph? 506 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: You're still there? I am. So let's let's make some assumptions, 507 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: which is a dangerous word. So let's assume the parts 508 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: for the O six and the O seven, every part 509 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: on each car is identical and can be swapped back 510 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: and forth. Let's let's make it clean like that. It 511 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: probably isn't there's probably some differences between the two, but 512 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: we'll assume that it is the newer car. The OH 513 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: seven's got fifty eight hundred miles on it right right now, 514 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: I've been driving it, so it's got about sixty thousand months. 515 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: Now it's got sixty thousand. What did you start out with? 516 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: Fifty eight thousand or hundreds? I realized it was five 517 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: hundred eight hundred miles. I paid fifty eight hundred dollars 518 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: for it. It was it was undred miles. And how 519 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: many miles does it have on it? Now? The seven? 520 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: The newer one about sixty? So you went, you went 521 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: forty thousand miles in a very short period of time. Well, yeah, 522 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: you know, I've been driving the wheels off of it. Okay, 523 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: so at the rate year going, um, wow, it's a 524 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: lot of miles. Ralph, what did you get this car? 525 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: I got this about four years ago, So it's not 526 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: as bad as it really sounds. Okay, So we're looking 527 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: our closes somewhere around fifteen thousand. So let's back up. 528 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: The O six is just sitting in the driveway, right, Okay, 529 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: have you driven it at all? A little bit? You know, 530 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: you know back, you know, you want to keep everything 531 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: running and you know lubricated, you know, so a little 532 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: bit Ralph is somebody getting on you to get rid 533 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: of the O six? Uh no, you know, I get 534 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: I just get conflicting things. My brother is a diesel 535 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: mechanic because will you holding onto that thing for you know? 536 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: And then I have another you know, I have my 537 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: mechanic who says, yeah, and if it's not harming you, 538 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: why not keep it in there? So that's going back 539 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 1: and forth. So so answer the question like this, Let's 540 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: say that, let's say the trans fails in that oh 541 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: seven hun day, You're gonna take the trans out of 542 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: the O six with a hundred sixty thousand miles on 543 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: it and put it in the O seven And no, 544 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: you rebuild for whatever it is to right, so probably 545 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: four thousand, but whatever whatever it is, okay, would you 546 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: would you take that? Would you put a used trans 547 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: in on a fifteen sixteen year old vehicle with sixty 548 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: miles on it? I don't think so, because the labor 549 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: would kill you. Would you swap the steer if the 550 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: steering rack was bad from one, would you take the 551 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 1: one from the other? No, I see where you're going. 552 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: If the engine failed, would you know if the alternator 553 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: went south? Would you know? Ralph sell the car cash 554 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: in a right stopping You know, It's like listen if 555 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: the brake, if the brakes failed on the O seven 556 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: and again brakes are the same, You're gonna take the 557 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: rusty brake rotors that have been sitting four years now 558 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: and swamp them onto the O seven. Why the labor 559 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: will kill you, right, it's it's you know, when I 560 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: talk about parts issues, those aren't the things I talk about. 561 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: Those aren't the things I'm thinking about. What I'm thinking 562 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: about is, well, if if the O seven needed an 563 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: onboard engine controller, if the main engine computer failed, is 564 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: it the same between the O six and the OH seven? 565 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: And I would be willing to bet it's different. Alright, 566 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: The electronics change really fast year to year on a 567 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: lot of vehicles. Okay, you know, does the dashboard look 568 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: the same from the O six and the O seven? Yes? Okay, identical? 569 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: Uh you know what the dash No, you're right, it doesn't. 570 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: The heat the heating is different. So if you want 571 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: to if you if you want to just out of curiosity, 572 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: call the Hundai dealer. They'll need they'll need it to 573 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: the whole seven team digit fin or the last date 574 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: of the event and say, hey, can you tell me 575 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: if the PCM between the No. Six and No. Seven 576 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: is the same? See what they say? You know you 577 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: want to keep that stuff, but now you're gonna put 578 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: up you know, let's say it's a thousand dollar PCM. 579 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: You're gonna put a thousand dollar PCM on the shelf 580 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: on the chance that you may need it. And now 581 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: the other car is scrap. Where's the other car? If 582 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: it's a running car, it's probably worth a couple of 583 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: bucks in this market, right, and last last thought, are 584 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: you ensuring the O six? Okay? Good boy? Yeah, good boy? 585 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: So um let's uh I say, I say sell it, 586 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,719 Speaker 1: Ralph and just you know, take the money, put it somewhere, 587 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: and if you need parts for the other one, you know, 588 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: and listen as the car gets older. Not not to 589 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: make a shameless plug, but let's be honest, right, if 590 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: you need parts for that and you can't get it, 591 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: O'Reilly oto dot com. They've got everything. If they don't 592 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: have it, nobody will. And if you can't find parts 593 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: there for a No. Seven Honday, you're a going to 594 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: and at that point you'll be fine. Um, but I 595 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: say cash in on the O six and get make 596 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: hay while the sun shines. All right, kids, go thank 597 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: You're really welcome, sir. You'd be well. Five five zero 598 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. I'm naming of the car doctor. 599 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Don't go away, he's 600 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: welcome back. We're on any of the car doctor here 601 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: eight five five five six zero nine zero zero. I 602 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: want to go back to Chuck in Texas. We're talking 603 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: to Chuck about the misfire on is oh nine f 604 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: one fifty and the misfire or the zero three oh one. UM, 605 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: get out to ng Case spark Plugs against ng ng 606 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: CA spark Plugs dot com. By the way, n g 607 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: K and n t K have teamed up or teamed up, 608 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,479 Speaker 1: and you'll see great information about both of them, uh, 609 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: both products that they make at their website. I think 610 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: it's Energy Case spark Plugs dot com. Um. But and 611 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: they'll also talk about not that's what I but they'll 612 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: also be talking about out shop squad. If you're if 613 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: you're a repair technician and you want to sign up. 614 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: N g K is assembling um. 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We're missing part of the picture here 633 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: because the lack of information. So engy Case park plugs 634 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: dot Com. Click on the resources tab and you'll see 635 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: vv T soloids And they've also got some great other 636 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: information up there on that website to about various different 637 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: components and um, you know, issues that are ongoing with 638 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: the vehicle. So it's just a great it's just a 639 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: great informational resource. And if you're a repair shop, like 640 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: I said, you can sign up for and join the 641 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: shop Squad and you know, beyond the list for you know, 642 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: all sorts of good industry resources type of information. Um, 643 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: the other things they've got there. For example, they talk about, 644 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: um something new high ignitability spark plugs. What's that all about? 645 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: That's a new phrase to the industry. They talk about 646 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: ignition coils something we've all seen, mass airflow censors or 647 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: two sensors. Um. They talk a little bit about throttle 648 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: position centers, some of the common faults that you know 649 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: we see on a daily basis, and some good general 650 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: information about how to deal with it and what you 651 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: can do and what you should be doing to properly 652 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: diagnose it. So that's uh over an mg case spark 653 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: plugs dot Com and they also give that it's a 654 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: downloadable PDF so you can actually print out your own 655 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: online reference source and uh, you know, do it that way, 656 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: So do it? Do it? Do get your information from 657 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: that method. I thought I would point that out in Chuck. 658 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: If you have any questions, if you're still listening, when 659 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: you get your final answers on your truck, give me 660 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: a call back before you do anything drastic. So um, 661 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to see you jump the gun. Hey, 662 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: that about wraps up this Hour the Car Doctor. Remember 663 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: the phone number is eight five five five six zero zero. 664 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: It's the seven for you, so you can give us 665 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: a call and we'll get you in the next live 666 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: broadcast Saturday afternoons to to four pm. There's another hour 667 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: ago for some of you on your affiliates that are 668 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: carrying both Hours in the Car Doctor. Remember podcasting is 669 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 1: out there. Just google the name Ron and any in 670 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor until the next time. I am Ron 671 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: an Ani in the Car Doctor, and I am reminding 672 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: you good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. Let's see you