1 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Titans Amy and Coach Mac Podcast, presented 2 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: by Farm Bureau Health Plans. Look to the folks at 3 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: Farm Bureau Health Plans when you need someone who understands 4 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: the exes and oh's of healthcare coverage. They've been protecting 5 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: Tennesseeans since nineteen forty seven. I'm Amy Wells, and I'm 6 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: so pleased to welcome you to the special edition of 7 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: the Titans Amy and Coach Mac Podcast. In honor of 8 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving holiday, we decided to share a conversation that 9 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: we are thankful for and this is truly an incredible 10 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: conversations with a man who spent his entire playing career 11 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: with the Chicago Bears organization. He had seven All Pro selections, 12 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: he went to ten consecutive Pro Bowls, two time Defensive 13 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: Player of the Year, and he was inducted into the 14 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame in nineteen ninety eight. Now 15 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: he went on to be a linebackers coach for the 16 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens and then the forty nine Ers, where he 17 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: ultimately became the head coach from two thousand and eight 18 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: to twenty ten. Also spent some time coaching with the 19 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings and the Los Angeles Rams. If you haven't 20 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: figured out who this is, you guys, this is a 21 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: conversation that Mac and I had with Mike's Singletary, and oh, 22 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: I am so excited to share it with you, So 23 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: please enjoy our time that we spent with Mike Singletary. 24 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: I'm so excited about this guest. Mike's Singletary is on 25 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: with us right now. I can't believe it. And Mac, 26 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: I have heard so many stories from you about Mike's Singletary. 27 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: He is the standard for you when it comes to 28 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 1: human beings and defensive players, right, No, he absolutely isn't 29 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: so fortunate. When I first came into the National Football 30 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: League in nineteen eighty six, you know, when Mike Dicka 31 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: hired me, and you know, I realized the group that 32 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: I was going into. I mean, it was the Super 33 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: Bowl shuffle Bears. It was the greatest defense to that 34 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: point in the history of the National Football League in 35 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 1: every category. Iconic players and I knew them as players. 36 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: So when I first got there, I called, you know, Mike, 37 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: and I had sat down with Mike and I said, look, 38 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: I need to know what I need to do to 39 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: be able to earn you guys respect, because you guys 40 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: are the epitome and the standard for what is going 41 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: on here. And I would just like you to tell 42 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,839 Speaker 1: me and bring me and coach me up a little 43 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: bit on what I need to do to earn your respect. 44 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: And he gave me three really great, great pearls of 45 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: wisdom that I lived by for all the thirty one 46 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: years that I coached in this league. That started my career, 47 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: It made my career being associated with Mike's Singletary and 48 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: that whole Bears defense. And Mike told me, first of all, 49 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: coach Mike always tell us the truth. Second of all, 50 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: if you don't know, just say you don't know. We'll 51 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: figure it out together. And third of all, let us 52 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: know from your heart and not just from your mouth, 53 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: that you care for us as much as people as 54 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 1: you do that number on our back. And then when 55 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: we started getting into the real football part of it, 56 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: and I just realized, you know, how fortunate I was. 57 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: And basically, you know, early on, Mike Singletary taught me 58 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: about National Football League defense and what it was. You know, 59 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: they had perfected and had put the forty six defense 60 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: onto the world there with Buddy Ryan, which was so unique, 61 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: and Mike Singletary and Gary Fensick were the lynchpin of 62 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: the whole thing because basically, there were so many different adjustments, 63 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: so many calls to make, and Mike Singletary knew every 64 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: one of them. And we had great players there, great players. 65 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: I can just start listing them Hall of Fame players, 66 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: but they all listened to one person when the game started, 67 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: and that was Mike Singletary. That's who we have on 68 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: with us today. And as I said it, not only 69 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: was it a great player coach relationship, but he's also 70 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: of very, very good friend, one of the best human 71 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: beings in the world. Take out first ballot, Hall of Famer, 72 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: let's take out all the accolades, let's take out everything 73 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: that he's done in the National Football League. All you've 74 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: got to do is look at the Wikipedia page and 75 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: figure it out all of those exceptional things that he's done. 76 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: He's even a better human being. Mike. It's great to 77 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: have you on, oh, coach. I really appreciate that, and 78 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: I'll send you a check after all, Mike, what were 79 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 1: your first impressions of this young guy coming in to 80 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: be your coach? After you, guys, have just won the 81 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,239 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. That's got to be kind of an interesting dynamic, right. Well, 82 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: you know what I think when I think of coach 83 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,559 Speaker 1: mcguinnis it was a breath of fresh air to find 84 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: someone who would come in and basically say how do 85 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: I do this and not come in and try to 86 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: grab us by the of the collar and say, hey, 87 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: this is the way we're gonna do it. I know 88 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: the way you've done it. We're not doing it that way. 89 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna do it this way, and it's gonna be 90 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: my way. And I'm so thankful that coach McGinn has 91 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: had the wisdom to come in and approach us the 92 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: way that he did, and it was really just very welcome, 93 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: and I just thought that it was ingenious on his 94 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: behalf to really approach us that way, and it ended 95 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: up being a win win situation. Mike, Let's talk a 96 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: little bit about that group. You know, people want to 97 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: talk about and people ask me a lot of times, Mike, 98 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: how my ten years at the Bears was what it 99 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: was like, especially the early years, And you know how 100 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: I describe it, Michael, I describe it as football Camelot. 101 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: It was like a fairy tale it really was. And 102 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: all of the players of that team were bigger than life. 103 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: And you know, the first time when I came in there, 104 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: the first game we went to London, remember with the 105 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: Cowboys and wherever. They're eating dinner at the House of 106 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: Commons and we're, you know, and I'm sitting around looking 107 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: at what is this? And You've got all you know, 108 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: you remember all of it. And then get our airplane 109 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: with you and the fridge and Walter Payton and Phil 110 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: Collins is over there, and you've got all the I mean, 111 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: it's just it was. It was an amazing, amazing time 112 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: of life then. And the thing that I don't think 113 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: people really understand is really the cast of characters that 114 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: were on that team, the cast of characters that were 115 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: extremely talented. But and especially in our linebacker room, we 116 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: had we had some of the greatest disparity of personalities 117 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: in that linebacker room, you know. And I know you're 118 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: laughing and you're gonna tell the and I want to 119 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: hear it from your perspective, but all the way from 120 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: Mike Singletary, who's the one of the most cerebral people 121 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: I've ever been around and one of the most you know, 122 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: just this is business. This is straight and looking. And 123 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: on the field, let me just say this, Mike Singletary 124 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: is the kindest man ever. But on the field he 125 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: was vicious. He was vicious. But some of these dudes, 126 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: I mean, let's just start with our group in there. 127 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: How about how about the big old how about Willie? 128 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: I mean, let's start with those, how about big Al 129 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: you know, let's start with with with Ron Rivera, Jim Morrisey. 130 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: How how good was that room? Mike, give me your 131 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: perspective on it, because people would love to hear your 132 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: take on that. It was the It was a tremendous room. 133 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: In terms of athletic ability, he was off the chart. 134 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: You know. You look at Wilbe Marshall, you know, to 135 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: start with him and really talk about, um, the kind 136 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: of ability that he had. I mean, he could he 137 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: could cover some of the receivers in the league, um 138 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: he had. He had that kind of speed, and he 139 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: was really really nasty and he was just naturally nasty. 140 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: You know, he just come in in a bad mood. 141 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: And of course, of course, h Oldest, here's oldest that 142 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: you know, if any thing in your outfit doesn't matter, 143 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: something is off you know, he you're gonna have a 144 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: comment from him, Hey man, why are you why? Why 145 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: why are you coming in here with that on? We 146 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: don't wear stuff like that, you know, you get that 147 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: from the you know, it's like, wait a minute, man, 148 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: hold on, we haven't he started the morning. Yeah, and 149 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: so you know, we just had those two guys right there. 150 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: That's enough for for any team. One of them is 151 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: enough for any room. But we had both of those guys. 152 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: And of course Al Harris came in and he was 153 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: mister salesman um with McDonald and and reading the paper 154 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: every more. And of course they got on him every day. 155 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: And Jim Morrison the smells that's what they call him, well, 156 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: Judge Smells. Tell him it came from Kaddy Shack because 157 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: they happed McMichael always played golf with him, and he 158 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: was they called him Judge Smells because you know, they're saying, 159 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna what are you gonna pay up your smells? No, 160 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: he was. It was a piece of work. But then 161 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: you had rama Vera, the yeah, the guy there's always 162 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: um uh trying to make sense of everything and very 163 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: cerebral in his own right. But it's a really fun room. 164 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: It could be a fun room and then it depends, 165 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: you know, some days it could be very volatble. Yes, 166 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: it was. It just depends on on what was happening 167 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: with the overall team. But I think coach McGinnis did 168 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: a tremendous job in handling that room and um, letting 169 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: guys blow off steam that that needed to blow off steam, 170 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: letting guys know how far to go. Hey, hey, you 171 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: know what now we I understand that you upset at that, 172 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: but I've got my job to do. So let's, uh, 173 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: let's make sure that that we're men here and we 174 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: know how to act, and then let's do things in 175 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: a business way. And so I thought coach McGinn has 176 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: been a tremendous job of really managing the room and 177 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: being able to really work his way through and have 178 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: everybody continue to be on the same page. With that 179 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: whole cast of characters. You are also playing for the 180 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: ultimate head coach in Mike Ditka. What was that experience 181 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: like a man who is larger than life and a 182 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: character in his own right. Well, you know the thing 183 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: about Mike is you always knew what you were going 184 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: to get. You always knew, and Mike was funny to 185 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: me because he's really misunderstood because he was really trying 186 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: his whole time there to relate to people. He was 187 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: trying to be understanding. When I went into his office, 188 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: I did knock on the door. I just went and 189 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: walked in the office. And he was always reading a 190 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: book about how to talk so others listen and to 191 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: talk so that that people understand you. And he had 192 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: all kinds of books and tapes and and I'd walk 193 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: in the office. He knocked them all on the floor 194 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: and say, hey, what do you want? What you need? 195 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: And I said, well, what are you eating? But I 196 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: don't worry about that. What what what can I do 197 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: for you? And he never wanted me to know he 198 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: was looking at that stuff. But he was really trying 199 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: to do everything that he could to really be more 200 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: human and and to really uh kind of come off 201 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: in a more professional way, uh, in a way that 202 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: guys could really get him. But but it just didn't 203 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: quite happen because he was so wired up and he 204 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: was so fired up all the time. So it just 205 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: made it very difficult. But he was definitely a character. Yeah, 206 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: And you know what though, Mike, I mean, it was 207 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: it was really a perfect marriage, you know, between coach 208 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: Didka and then that that that that group of players, 209 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: because you know, there you can just go up and 210 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: down the line. And I was always amazed at you 211 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: the way that you could could control all of them 212 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: and really, you know, and not not controlling a bad way, 213 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: but could coalesce and bring everybody together. I used to 214 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: really laugh, Mike, And I'm just telling you this now. 215 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: I probably haven't told you this before, but the mouth 216 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: of cursing that they would do of you when you 217 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 1: were in the front of the stretch line and everybody 218 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: You and Walter and Double D were up front, you know, 219 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: and everybody had a we all stretched old school style right, 220 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: and the captains, the guy's upfront always had to do 221 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: one thing. And you always always the first thing that 222 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: you would say in Fridge would would would mimic it 223 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: is everybody down, everybody down, so you would make them 224 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: do military push ups up hold it that I've heard 225 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: you called such bad names because I walk up and 226 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: down the line and just listen to it. And you 227 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: know what, you could care less, You could have cared less, 228 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: but they did it. They did it because of the 229 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: immense amount of respect that they had for you, and 230 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: they knew that you were doing it, not just to 231 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: do it because you could, but doing it because you 232 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: knew that it would bring everybody together. That that used 233 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: to amaze me. And that's a little insight that people 234 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: never knew. But I used to couldn't wait for stretch 235 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: to hear Big Fred say everybody down, because that's what 236 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: you would say. That was so great? Well, it was. 237 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: It was interesting. I mean I also knew that, you know, 238 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: Fred Cato would say, uh, and of course you know 239 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: Clyde him or God bless you pay God what God 240 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: blessed Clyde. But Clyde really loved the fact that we 241 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: did push up because it was so good for the shoulders. 242 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: So Clyde would say, you know, Mike, it's really good 243 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: that you do to push up, you know, and go 244 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: for the sh I'm gonna keep doing them, Cid. I 245 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: know the guy has hated it, but they did. They 246 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: hated they you do it. Oh it was good for him. 247 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: And how about how about this When I first got there, Mike, 248 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: and we walked out on the field in my first 249 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: practice there and there was chin up bars and everybody 250 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: grab grabbed it. And did five chin ups before they 251 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: went out on the field. And I said, what are 252 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: we going here? And and and and no, sire you, Mike, 253 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: can I tell the truth? And yeah, and and the 254 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: guess that's what George Hallis did, It's what Mike Ditka did, 255 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: And that's what were the Bears. That's what we do. 256 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: It was amazing. It was different. It was definitely different, 257 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: but it was it was something you exactly right. It 258 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: was something that guys didn't like, something that it was 259 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: just a little bit different, but it somehow, some way 260 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: it continued to bring us together. There are certain eras, 261 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: certain moments in a franchise's history where the amount of 262 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: pride that people associated with that program at that time 263 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: have just astronomical. And the Chicago Bears, especially in that era, 264 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: is just the stuff of legends. How proud are you 265 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: not only that you were a part of that, but 266 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: you were a major player within the Chicago Bears that 267 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: everybody knows and loves and really remembers as being the 268 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:27,239 Speaker 1: stuff of just legends. Well, it's it is interesting because 269 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: when we were there, it wasn't You don't really realize 270 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: how different it is. We were different than any other 271 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: team in the league, and we were that team that 272 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: was kind of an in your face team that people 273 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: really didn't like because we kind of did what we wanted. 274 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, we we have 275 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: someone in coach Ditka that didn't let us do what 276 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: we wanted. And then you know, sometimes we could be 277 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: spoiled breaths and it looked like, what in the world 278 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: are they doing in Chicago. Um, you know, you see 279 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: us on the news. There's no telling where we might be. 280 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: There's no telling who may be saying what wow. But somehow, 281 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: some way, we came together on Sundays and we made 282 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: things happen. You know the thing Mike too, and and 283 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: and and talk to us a little bit. I know 284 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: the history of it. But when Mike Ditka was hired, 285 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: I mean that was a very volatile time there. I mean, 286 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: I know that the immense love and rightfully so, that 287 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: all of the defensive players had for Buddy Ryan, and 288 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: when Neil Armstrong was let go, I mean, there was 289 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: a big push for Buddy to be the head coach. 290 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: Talk to us about that time, and to me, it 291 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: just shows the character of this football team that they 292 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: were able to coalesce and come to come together with 293 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: Mike Ditka and tell us a little bit. And you've 294 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: told me the story about some of his first meetings 295 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: with you guys when he came in before the Bears 296 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: were the Super Bowl shuffle. Well, I remember when we 297 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: knew Neil Armstrong was gonna get fired. Neil was a really, 298 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: really wonderful man, and but it just wasn't working with 299 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: the Bears and the leadership style just couldn't didn't quite 300 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: click or whatever. And so when when Neil we knew 301 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: Neil was gonna get fired, we Gary Fensick, myself and 302 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: Alan Page got together and said, um, I think we 303 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: need to keep buddy, Buddy Ryan. And of course I 304 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: couldn't believe I was saying it, because at that time 305 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: I hated Buddy. I didn't like, I'm thinking, what the 306 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: heck am I doing? Really? But I knew they were right. 307 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: I knew that that buddy was somebody that we needed 308 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: to keep. But that was a crazy time within myself. 309 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: But we decided to write a letter. And of course 310 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: Gary Fensick and and Alan Page said hey, we'll write 311 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: a letter and we'll send it to mister Allison and 312 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: hopefully he listens to us, and of course George Allis 313 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: came in and talked about what was gonna happen. He 314 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: was gonna let Neil go, and that he was gonna 315 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: honor our wishes to keep Buddy Ryan as the defensive coordinator, 316 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: and that he had never heard of that before, but 317 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: he would honor that. And so when when we knew 318 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: that was going to happen, and they were looking for 319 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: head coaching candidates, and we heard some of the names, 320 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: and some of the guys was, oh man, this guy's 321 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: good at that guy, Oh man, yeah, we could get him. 322 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: We'd throw the ball, we could do this. And then 323 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, because Dick's name head coach at 324 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears, I didn't know who he was, and I'm 325 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: walking around in the locker room and guys were like, 326 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: who did they get their man? This guy's crazy, you know, 327 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: look at the way he uns come on the sideline 328 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: with why don't we get in? And I thought to myself, 329 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: that's exactly who we need. And so his first day there, 330 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: the man comes and literally he has orange hair and 331 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: he's chewing gum like crazy, and he comes in the 332 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: first day and half the guys don't want to be there. 333 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: They're they're like, oh, man, this guy. I'm telling you, 334 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: the guy's crazy. So he looks at us and he says, guys, 335 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: let me tell you something. I already looked at the film. 336 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: Most of you guys are not gonna be here very long. 337 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you right now. And he said, the 338 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: door here is gonna be a revolving door because I'm 339 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: gonna get my kind of players here. If you want 340 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: to play here, you've got to make up your mind 341 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: right now. And he says, in everything that I'm saying, 342 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: I want you to know this. In three years, if 343 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: you will do what I'm telling you to do, if 344 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: you will follow me in three years, we'll go to 345 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: the super Bowl in three years. And so that was 346 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: that was a promise that he pretty much kept. And 347 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: we were on a fast track, man, and guys were 348 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: coming in and they were going as fast and you 349 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: could turn your head. But it came to pass. And see, 350 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: that's a great insightful story. And you've told me that before, 351 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: and I just and just now knowing the fiber and 352 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 1: the fabric of the players that were there when I 353 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: got there. After you guys had the you know immediately 354 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: after you had won the Super Bowl. I mean, and 355 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: I could, I said, and I thought, this is very, 356 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: very unique. But people don't understand. They do now, you 357 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 1: know when they listen to this. We have about a 358 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: million listeners, Mike, so you're you're on a big time 359 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: podcast here. The thing about it is is the fact 360 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: that that he had a he had a vision, but 361 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: you and the leaders of that team were willing to 362 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: accept the vision. And then let's not forget Bill Tobin 363 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: and the type of draft that he made to put 364 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,239 Speaker 1: together that group of players. Never as a group like 365 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: that ever been a symbol at one time and never 366 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: will be again because that was back before free agency, 367 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: back before the salary cap. But you start looking at 368 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: the number of Hall of Famers you, Walter hamp Covert, 369 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: I mean, the number of Hall of Famers that came 370 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: out of that era is just And that's why you 371 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: guys are still beloved, No, not even beloved. You guys 372 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: are worshiped still in the city of Chicago, and we'll 373 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: be for the rest of your lives. And guess what, 374 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: rightfully so, And let me just say this, as a 375 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: young coach going in there, I didn't know come from sickle, Mike, 376 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: I didn't know anything. After one season with you guys, 377 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: the first year that we were there, we went fourteen 378 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: and two right and switched up a lot of and 379 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm lecturing on linebacker play all 380 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: across the country like I'm some kind of linebacker guru. 381 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: And so when I would get up to talk to people, 382 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: they would say, well, you know, what's the key, what 383 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: is the key to this? I said, well, here's the 384 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: key to doing this. Go get Mike Singletary, get Wilbram Marshall, 385 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: get Otis Wilson, put Hampton McMichael in the fridge down 386 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: in front of him, and then you'll be a guru too, 387 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: you know. And so but that that's just it was. 388 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: It was a special special time. Talk to us a 389 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: little bit, Mike, if you will, because I know that 390 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: you were very very close to Walter. Talk a little 391 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: bit about just what Walter Payton was and meant to 392 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: you when you went there. Well, the thing with Walter 393 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: and myself we were so different. I remember when I 394 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: first got there, and you know, Walter was such a 395 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: prankster and I had such respect for him, and uh, 396 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: but Walter would if you're sitting down and you're anywhere, 397 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: Neil Walter Payton, the joke's always gonna be on you. 398 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: Either you're gonna walk through a door and a pail 399 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: of waterfall on you. You're gonna you're gonna be sitting 400 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: down and you're gonna be talking and firecrackers go off. Uh, 401 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: You're gonna be coming out of the shower and he's 402 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: gonna hit you with a towel. I mean all kinds 403 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: of stuff. And I ain't know. So this is my 404 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: my A year. I pulled Walter aside and I said, Walter, 405 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: I said, you know, I want you to understand something. 406 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: I have all the respect in the world for you, 407 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: but you don't want to do that with me. I 408 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: don't want you to ever do a prank with me 409 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: because I don't handle those very well. And I don't agree, 410 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: and I going south and I just told him that. 411 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: He just he looked at me in and you know, 412 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: I didn't know how he's gonna take it, but he said, okay, Mikey. 413 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: And so he never did that to me, and it 414 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: was it was always interesting. He was one of the 415 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: hardest working guys as I've ever been around. It was 416 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: amazing the amount of work that he could do. When 417 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: we ran our hardest, Walter would go out and finish 418 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: running some more. When we were in the weight room 419 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: and we lifted like crazy, Walter would always do more. 420 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: And if he put a bear hug on there, I 421 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: don't care who you were, you could not get loose. 422 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: You could not. And as a matter of fact, he 423 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: made crack a few bones while he's doing that. And 424 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: he could walk the whole field on his hands. So 425 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: he was an extraordinary athlete, an extraordinary individual. And he 426 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: and I did not really talk a whole lot, but 427 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:28,239 Speaker 1: had some really really life changing conversations. But he was 428 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: He was a tremendous guy, a tremendous um role model 429 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: for many athletes. He was the first guy that that 430 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: really was a businessman and began to set aside a 431 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: plan to have his own franchise. And and and really, 432 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: somebody I was doing something last night, coach Mack. Somebody 433 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: was asking me about Walter and what do you what 434 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: do you think really matter to Walter? And I was like, 435 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: I can tell you what broke his heart was that 436 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: when he finished Lane, he thought he had a chance 437 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: to get a franchise, yes in Saint Louis, and they 438 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: denied him. The owners did not vote for him. They 439 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: voted for someone else as as an owner. And um, 440 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: that really that really hurt Walter, That really hurt his 441 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: feelings and it was a while before he recovered from that. 442 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: I'm very familiar with that because, of course, you know, 443 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: his his longtime coach and one of the one of 444 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: the best men I've ever been around in my life. 445 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: Johnny Rowland was involved in that too, you know, and 446 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: we were being kept abreast of that, and so you're right, 447 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 1: but those were things that you know, there were so 448 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: many things that you guys did that that players in 449 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: the future have emulated and have tried to do. And 450 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: you guys were really you paved the way for a 451 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: lot of things and and and you really did. And 452 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: that's why you know, you you or help of course, 453 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: you went on to a very successful career in coaching 454 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: and and and you got into coaching later, you know, 455 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 1: not immediately after you got through playing, because there were 456 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: other things that you had to do. Your faith is 457 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: very important to you. You you felt like that you 458 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: had a calling, you know, for the ministry and for 459 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: some things going on and you wanted to raise your children, 460 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: you know, and and you for all the right reasons, 461 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: but when you went into coaching, and you and you 462 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: and you and you went into the to the to 463 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: the Ravens the first of all. And and I've heard, 464 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: you know, I've I've heard people that were on that 465 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: staff say Mike's singletary when he came in there. You know, 466 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: for Ray Lewis meant the world of difference. Talk to 467 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: me just a little bit about that time. Well, Ray 468 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: was really interesting. I remember watching football before I started 469 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 1: coaching at the Ravens, and the one team that I 470 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: didn't like was the Ravens. And the one linebacker that 471 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: I didn't like Les Perfect And the reason why because 472 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: he was always talking. I'm like, man, just be quiet, 473 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: just play the game. You don't have to talk that much. 474 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: And so I had gotten to know Steve Baschatti before 475 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: he became the owner of the Ravens, and he and 476 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 1: I had had gotten to be somewhat friends because he 477 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: was in the business world and I spoke with his 478 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: company quite a bit. And to make a long story short, 479 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: when my wife and I decided that we're going to coach, 480 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: we end up ruin the Baltimore and the first guy 481 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: that I see is Ray Lewis, and I go, oh boy, 482 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: here we go. Ray Lewis comes up to me and 483 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: he says, Coach, I want to tell you the Lord 484 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: answered my prayer. I wanted someone like you who could 485 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: come in here and could teach me everything that I 486 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: need to know about being a man, everything I need 487 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: to know about being a husband and a father. And 488 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: he said, I want everything You've got everything every day, 489 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: I want everything you've got, and I'm tell you Ray, 490 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: And I, first of all, I was shocked at his response. 491 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: And after that, you know, we sat down and talked 492 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 1: about some of the things that you know, Ray was 493 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: head of an athlete and tremendous leader, and it was 494 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: just some of those little things that he needed. And 495 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: I said, I just I want to talk about you 496 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: already know how to be a great linebacker, but I 497 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: want to talk about the detail of linebacking and you know, 498 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: shuffling and not crossing over and all of those things 499 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: and some of those things that I think can take 500 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: your game to the next level. And he was so 501 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: intent on doing everything that I said. One day I 502 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: told him, I said, I want you to be. I 503 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: want you on the balls of your feet. And he 504 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: was trying to do what I was asking him to do, 505 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: and I wasn't really paying attention. I thought he knew 506 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: what I was saying. But he was on his toes 507 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: so his calves were cramping, and he was like, Coach, 508 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: my car Cramer, I'm not right. I'm like, Ray, what's 509 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: the problem. And he said, well, I'm on the balls 510 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: of my pist No, no, no, you're on your toes. 511 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: Here's the balls of your feet. Let me show you 512 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: what that is. So we kind of had to break 513 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: it down that way, and we had a couple of 514 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: deals while we were While he was playing, you know, 515 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: one game, he was just getting really frustrated and it 516 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: was just a small adjustment that he needed to make. 517 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: I told him, you know, he said, Coach, they're coming 518 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: out on it. They'll find out on me. I said, Ray, 519 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: if they're coming out on you, that means that you 520 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: gotta absorb the blow a little bit. They're holding you, 521 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: they're there, then you gotta hit and absorb and get off. 522 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: He said, that guy, I don't even know what that means. 523 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: I don't even know how you do that. I don't 524 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: even know if you can do that, coach, What do 525 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: you mean a sorb of that? So he's getting fired 526 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: up at me on the side because they're kicking your tail. 527 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: You're gonna give me an excuse to why you can't 528 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: do what I'm asking you do. So I tell you 529 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: what be it practiced him all morning, six o'clock. All 530 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: your line back, then I'm gonna be there with my 531 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: stuff on, and I'm gonna show you what I'm talking about. 532 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: And Ray was like, what I want you to have 533 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: tomorrow morning, all of you at six o'clock and you're 534 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: responsibility bring all up there at six o'clock. I'm gonna 535 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,479 Speaker 1: show you what I'm talking about. So I was there 536 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: at six o'clock. I had all my stuff on and 537 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: a bear's uniform and I'm hitting the dumbas and I'm 538 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: showing him how you hit. And sometimes when people are 539 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: coming out and they're grabbing you, you don't want to 540 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: give them all of what you have. You want to 541 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: kind of bumping ab sorb and get off and keep going. 542 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: And so I was trying to show him what that meant. 543 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: And he mentioned that to me not long ago we 544 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: were together. He's a coach. You remember that, You remember 545 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: that you were telling me about their bumping ab sworb 546 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: and get out. He's a coach. I had no idea 547 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: what you're talking about, but man, it changed my game. 548 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: It changed my game. So it was little things like that. 549 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: He was such a sponge. He was a tremendous listener. 550 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: And that's the thing that I remember most about Ray. 551 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: And we would meet every Tuesday and read the Bible 552 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: and just talk about life. And I just allowed and 553 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: asked whatever question that he had for me about being 554 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: a man, being a father, being a husband, And those 555 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: were the things that we did every Tuesday. And when 556 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: I left, that was one of the hardest decisions that 557 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: I had to make, was to lead Baltimore leaving him. Well, Mike, 558 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: see that those those types of insights are just invaluable. 559 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: And thank you so much for sharing that. One more thing, 560 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,719 Speaker 1: and people don't know this either. You and Bill Walsh 561 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: were close. You've always been a man that has been 562 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: very willing to seek out knowledge to make yourself better 563 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: in all avenues. Talk to us a little bit about 564 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: you and Bill Walsh. What he when you wanted to 565 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: start coaching. I know you called me, but you told 566 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: me that you had spent a lot of time with 567 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: Bill Walsh. Talk to me about that so well, that 568 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: was really interesting. When Bill wassh knew that I was 569 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: going to be coaching, he called me. He said, mikeel 570 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: you got to be coaching. I said, yes, Sir, I'm 571 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna do that. He said, I want you 572 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: to come out here and see me. And I said, 573 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: just come out here. I want you to come out 574 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: and have dinner with me. And I said, okay, I 575 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: will do that. So I flew out to San Francisco 576 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,719 Speaker 1: and I sat down with him and spend some time 577 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: with him, and he some, Mike, I think it's great 578 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: that you're gonna be coaching, and he said, I just 579 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,239 Speaker 1: I want to share some things with you that I 580 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: think are very important. So I'll be calling you from 581 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: time to time. And whenever I call you come And 582 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: he would be in a certain part of the country 583 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: and he would call me out of the blue, Hey, Mike, 584 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be here, tom All, can you come. Can 585 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: you come out lunch with me? Can you come out 586 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: dinner with me? Yes, sir? And I would go and 587 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: I would sit with him and he would He would 588 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: just talk to me about how he got into coaching, 589 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: how he started, and how things that I need to 590 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: watch for, things that I need to make sure that 591 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: I do things that It was really really interesting to me. 592 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: I was very honored that he thought enough of me 593 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: to do that. But there were there were about five 594 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: or six times that that I went and I met 595 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: with him and sat down and talked with him, and 596 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: that really really meant a lot to me. I just 597 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: I don't know to this day why he did it. 598 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: It was it was a tremendous honor for me to 599 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: join him any opportunity I had to do that. Well, Michael, 600 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: this has been an honor for us. I mean, we 601 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,479 Speaker 1: could go on and on, but you know, I promised 602 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: you I wouldn't keep you forever. There's so many stories 603 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: that we have that we could tell. We could fill 604 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: up a whole year's worth a podcast with a great 605 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: Mike singletary. But I can't tell you enough. Of course, 606 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: you know how much I love you, and I really 607 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: really appreciate this. This is going to be so insightful 608 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: for people to tell us. Just a little bit, Mike, 609 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: real quick here, I won't keep you longer. What are 610 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: you doing now? What's your focus now? Because you've always 611 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: got a mission and you've always got to focus. Talk 612 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: to me a little bit about that right now. You know, 613 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: I thought I'd be coaching this year, but it really 614 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: didn't work out that way, and I ended up starting 615 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: a five or one c three. After the whole Floyd incident, 616 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, I begin to look at our country and 617 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: look at where we are, and look at how I 618 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: can make a difference. And somehow, some way, when you 619 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 1: begin to look at life and you look at football 620 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: and then you look at America, you know, America is 621 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 1: very important to me. I love a country. But at 622 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 1: the same time, you know our country is changing, and 623 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: you know we're going through a change right now that 624 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people truly understand what 625 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: how close we were to a gets a whole revolution 626 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: during the George Floyd situation. And I saw something for 627 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 1: the first time that I had not seen before. I 628 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: saw I saw a black I saw a white, you know, 629 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: kind of going at it, and I saw the country 630 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: as a whole going at it. But I saw another party. 631 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: I saw a third party going at it that really 632 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 1: cared nothing about black, white, yellow green. They didn't care 633 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: anything about that. They care they wanted the country, and 634 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: they were going for the very heart and soul of 635 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: our country. And and so I think that for me, 636 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: I wanted to begin to look at how do I 637 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: how do I help bridge this gap in our country? 638 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: And um I put together five or one C three 639 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 1: called changing our perspective in people being able to stop 640 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: looking at each other as the problem and begin to 641 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: look up and see that there are opportunities out there. There, 642 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: there are things that we can do to make a difference. 643 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: And the chain that I need to see in the 644 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: world doesn't need to start with the other guy. It 645 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: needs to start with me. And then I built an 646 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: APP call Raise Up and just basically kind of looking 647 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: at our country and looking at where we need to 648 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: raise up. And the thing that inside of that app 649 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: is education and health and mental wellness. Those are the 650 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: two things that I really believe that can bridge to 651 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: the gap in our country between the have and have 652 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 1: knots and begin some synergy there and create a redemption 653 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 1: program for the havenots to not get stuff from the haves, 654 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: but to for the haves to put things in a 655 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: place so that the have knots can earn them and 656 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: begin to gain pride and a sense of belonging in 657 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: our country for the first time ever, and begin to 658 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: build something for their own families and the next generation. Well, Mike, 659 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,720 Speaker 1: you're You're You're the You're the absolute best and placed. 660 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: Speaking of family, give my best to your wife, Kim. 661 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: I know that she is the straw that stirs the 662 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: drink that with the Singletary family. Tell her coach. Mike said, Hello, 663 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: I always enjoyed, you know, being around her, And as 664 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: I say, you know how much I love you. I 665 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: truly appreciate you doing this for us. And as I 666 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 1: know Amy, I told Amy Wells, I said, we're going 667 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: to get Mike Singletary on because he's going to have 668 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: meaningful things to say. It will be entertaining, but it 669 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: will also be educational and meaningful. And absolutely, you did 670 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 1: exactly what I knew you would. Love you, Mike, thank 671 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: you so much. I love you, coach. Thank you A big, 672 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 1: big thank you to Mike Singletary for taking the time 673 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: to talk with us to share some of his stories 674 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: and memories. It's always a great day when you can 675 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: talk to an NFL legend and a Hall of Famer. 676 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: I still can't get over it. I had an absolute 677 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: black I hope you guys enjoyed that. Someone else who 678 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,280 Speaker 1: is legendary is the people at Farm Bureau Health Plans. 679 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: Don't get sacked by the high cost of healthcare. Make 680 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: Farm Bureau Health Plans your first line of protection. They've 681 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: been protecting Tennessee and since nineteen forty seven. Now midst 682 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: all the turkey and pumpkin pie and you know, general 683 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: holiday cheer. Let's not forget that the Titans have a 684 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: game on Sunday. They take on the New England Patriots 685 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: in Foxboro. Titans Radio will be on the air at 686 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: eleven am. Myself, Coach Mac, Rhett Brian, we'll have the 687 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: pregame show for you, and then at noon Central Time, 688 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: Coach Mac and Mike Keith will take over and get 689 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: you through the ball game. Don't forget. I know you've 690 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 1: got a lot going on this weekend, but they're still 691 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: football happening on Sunday and it's important. So for Amy Wells, 692 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: Coach Mack, and Mike Singletary, thank you, thank you for listening, 693 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 1: and we hope you're having a great Thanksgiving weeknd weekend 694 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: and We look forward to seeing you on the next 695 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:03,800 Speaker 1: edition of the Titans Amy and Coach Mac podcast. Many 696 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: people like the