Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three one four,
Speaker 1: Episode three of Daily Zai I Stay production of iHeartRadio Yop. Yeah, Sure,
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Speaker 1: twenty second, twenty twenty three. My name is Jack O'Brien
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Speaker 1: be joined in our second seat by one of the
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Speaker 1: and TV writer. You know him from the US this
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Speaker 2: It's Andrew Too and AKA Andrew T. Thousand is the
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Speaker 1: On my mind thousand.
Speaker 2: It doesn't kind of doesn't make sense, but it not
Speaker 2: really makes a little sense.
Speaker 1: Yes, I love it. Have you been listening?
Speaker 2: I did the other night actually, but it.
Speaker 1: Was love it.
Speaker 2: It was a it was a very passive listen.
Speaker 1: Yes, so it's meant to be listened to passively.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just did my second listen today and really loved it.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, these are like getting like.
Speaker 2: So here's here's the thing with me, is that like
Speaker 2: I put it on when I was I had some
Speaker 2: folks over for dinner a couple of days ago, and
Speaker 2: I put it on. But I I like, you know,
Speaker 2: and when Spotify got to the end, it just continues
Speaker 2: playing other flute you know, like like similar music.
Speaker 1: Yeaeah.
Speaker 2: So I just didn't realize when it started and when
Speaker 2: it beges. So I could not tell you if I
Speaker 2: like it or I liked.
Speaker 1: Some oh yeah, or you liked some other thing like
Speaker 1: a middle school flute recital.
Speaker 2: I liked what the algorithm generated off of it, Like
Speaker 2: the whole experience over a few hours was very good.
Speaker 2: So I assume I like it.
Speaker 1: There you go, well grammatic like, yes, we are thrilled
Speaker 1: to be joined in our third and fourth see what Yes,
Speaker 1: it's one of those studios cramped the studio is crammed,
Speaker 1: it's sweaty. We're all just elbow to elbow in here.
Speaker 1: They're the hosts of the podcast Celebrity Book Club. There
Speaker 1: are times when I'm doing research for the guest and
Speaker 1: I start listening to their podcast or their stand up
Speaker 1: special and I can't stop. And that's what happened to
Speaker 1: me this morning. So good news, bad news, good news,
Speaker 1: great guests, bad news. My takes in the news section
Speaker 1: are going to be really half baked because I spent
Speaker 1: the morning listening to their Britney Spears episode. Please welcome
Speaker 1: Stephen Phillips, Horst and Lily Morano. Hello, what's up, guys?
Speaker 3: Wow you flatter?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you really do good. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm a listener now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, join the club. Join the hundreds of people who
Speaker 4: listen to our podcast every week.
Speaker 1: It's so fun. I learned so much about Brittany. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was just you guys are really fun to listen
Speaker 1: to talk about Brittany. And I feel like there's always
Speaker 1: people who read celebrity books and like celebrity autobiographies, like
Speaker 1: always come away with great stories. So I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to kind of digging in.
Speaker 3: These are the stories we need to tell our grandchildren.
Speaker 5: That's why we do it, just to you knowing.
Speaker 4: You know, little giant is gonna be on my knees.
Speaker 4: We say, Daddy, I guess Granddaddy, tell me more about
Speaker 4: that best from twenty twenty three, you're like, well, gather
Speaker 4: around shelter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not always like the big Zeitgeist like
Speaker 1: your Your most recent episode, I guess is the Nancy Kerrigan.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: We like to switch it up, you know, when everyone zigs.
Speaker 4: We liked to zag, but sometimes you have to zig
Speaker 4: when everyone else is ziggy, and otherwise, you know, what
Speaker 4: are you doing?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 5: She she used to be cut a Zeitgeist person. But yeah,
Speaker 5: I'd like to, you know, bring former zeite Geist people back.
Speaker 4: Into the for a second. Yeah, regeist them, regeist.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the good news is this week the media tries
Speaker 1: to make it so that no news happens on purpose
Speaker 1: this week. I guess they really like clear the decks
Speaker 1: so that people at TMZ can be home with their
Speaker 1: families or whatever. I do. I do still remember Tiger
Speaker 1: Woods getting like didn't he have a thing over Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: holiday where he like got caught drunk driving or like
Speaker 1: bagged that.
Speaker 3: The big the Big Tiger.
Speaker 1: It was like the first that. Yeah, it was the
Speaker 1: first one where it was like, oh, Tiger Woods gets
Speaker 1: drunk and he was like blacked out and the like
Speaker 1: I don't know, there was something with a car and
Speaker 1: him like passing out and getting hit in the head
Speaker 1: with something. You know.
Speaker 5: I think his wife hit him with the car club
Speaker 5: with the golf club, with.
Speaker 3: The golf club because she found out he cheated.
Speaker 2: And what's lying around the house, like what are you
Speaker 2: going to.
Speaker 1: That's just that's what they were eating their Thanksgiving dinner
Speaker 1: with was just various golf clubs. That's what they use
Speaker 1: at the table. And then of course the JFK assassination,
Speaker 1: which was the Tiger Woods getting hit with a golf
Speaker 1: club of a previous generation. You know, everybody remembers where
Speaker 1: they were. But all right, well we're going to get
Speaker 1: to know you guys a little bit better.
Speaker 3: You guys.
Speaker 4: You know, I will say, my mom's obsessed Tellian this
Speaker 4: story about how she remembers where she was when JFK
Speaker 4: was assassinating she always says, And the nuns wheeled in
Speaker 4: the televisions, and you know, they all watched Walter concorde
Speaker 4: or whatever. But that would sort of suggest that they
Speaker 4: weren't all gathered around the turkey table.
Speaker 1: It was a week so it was the Thursday before Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: But the anniversary is tomorrow, so I guess this is
Speaker 1: a very early thing.
Speaker 3: What is time?
Speaker 1: What is time? Really, Dan? And but yeah, it was
Speaker 1: so Thanksgiving that year was the twenty eighth.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a late ass thanks Giving.
Speaker 4: A late giving.
Speaker 1: You see what happens when you have a late Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: like that? People get cranky, die, people die people getting cranky,
Speaker 1: and presidents get milk. So anyways, we're going to talk
Speaker 1: about that because it is the anniverse of the JFK assassination,
Speaker 1: and you know, I love talking JFK assassination. We're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a look at the strange world of
Speaker 1: JFK assassination tourism. We might talk about X suing media
Speaker 1: matters for doing a story on them, just like doing
Speaker 1: reporting the facts about how many Nazis there are all
Speaker 1: of that, plenty more. But before we get to any
Speaker 1: of it, we do like to ask our guests, Steven Lily,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history that's revealing about
Speaker 1: who you are?
Speaker 4: Oh wow, that's okay, okay, deep.
Speaker 3: Take me out to dinner first.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know if this that counts as search history,
Speaker 4: but I went down a Wikipedia hole last night while
Speaker 4: I was trying to fall asleep.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll allow it.
Speaker 4: I don't know how this happened, but it was like
Speaker 4: three am and my boyfriend, Yeah, that's right. My boyfriend
Speaker 4: was a sleep next to me, and you know, he's
Speaker 4: snoring away and I was playing Solitaire. It wasn't really working,
Speaker 4: and I was like, what's gonna What's gonna calm down
Speaker 4: this crazy brain of mine? You know what's gonna tonight?
Speaker 4: I ended up on the Wikipedia page for K two,
Speaker 4: the second highest mountain in the world. I don't know
Speaker 4: if y'all are familiar.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think there's a movie called K two, right.
Speaker 4: That's I mean, there's a ski brand called K two,
Speaker 4: So why wouldn't there be a movie. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I hadn't no, I just thought it was a ski brand.
Speaker 5: I had no idea it was a mountain.
Speaker 1: Wake Up. My favorite movie Burton. I love that movie.
Speaker 3: Give my movie a favorite movie, Volcom Burton and Vams.
Speaker 4: If there was an Oakley movie, I would watch.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, wrapper around shades the film franchise based around
Speaker 1: the wrapper round.
Speaker 3: Oscar winner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not pure Oscar bait.
Speaker 4: They could have that scene, do you remember, Lily So
Speaker 4: not to sort of like plug our podcasts, but when
Speaker 4: we read Andre Agassi's book, he has a little anecdote
Speaker 4: shirts where at one point Oakley was one of his
Speaker 4: sponsors and just as a congrats for him winning some tournament,
Speaker 4: they drove a truck, arrives at his huge house and
Speaker 4: unloads off the truck as a Dodge Viper, brand new
Speaker 4: Dodge Viper.
Speaker 2: They were just like the Oakley of cars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, trually, like I think it's wearing.
Speaker 4: It's a wrap around car. It's very horizontal and like Kurby.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe they were like designed by the same person.
Speaker 1: By the way, there is a film nineteen ninety one's
Speaker 1: K two The Ultimate High. Oh that's what it says
Speaker 1: underneath it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, anyway, it's the Ultimate High because it's quite dangerous. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and you know, you know everyone and their mom summit's
Speaker 4: ever it's like every day, you know, there's probably once
Speaker 4: you get to the top, there's like a line to
Speaker 4: take yourselfie and then you're on your way back down.
Speaker 4: But K two, it's insanely dangerous. Only a hundred people
Speaker 4: have done it, like a couple hundred in the history
Speaker 4: of you know time. And there was this one, you know,
Speaker 4: horrible disaster in two thousand and eight where guess eleven
Speaker 4: people died of the course of two days. And I
Speaker 4: was just reading this harrowing story in Wikipedia. Sometimes the
Speaker 4: reportage on Wikipedia is really quite breathtaking, like it's you know,
Speaker 4: it's written like a really exciting novel or something.
Speaker 2: Well, it's written by the most pas shit hobbyist on
Speaker 2: earth always right, yeah, you go.
Speaker 4: If you're editing a Wikipedia page, you care, you give
Speaker 4: a shit? Yeah, And so you're seeing that that sort
Speaker 4: of like beautiful nerdy dedication to a subject.
Speaker 1: But it was just.
Speaker 4: Really harrowing and it and you know, there's all these
Speaker 4: like avalanches and ice falling and and people like tripping
Speaker 4: over wires and finding each other's bodies and then slipping
Speaker 4: and then dying and and then it's you know, zero
Speaker 4: degrees and everyone's freezing to death. And it just really
Speaker 4: made me not want to climb.
Speaker 5: I also make you fall asleep. This would make me
Speaker 5: like stay up fearing.
Speaker 1: And here's what was weird?
Speaker 4: It was just so calming, and maybe it was reading
Speaker 4: about cold, you know that kind of just lowers the
Speaker 4: heart rate. B yeah, but I think for some reason
Speaker 4: I found it calming, and I wonder if it's reading
Speaker 4: about cold you know kind of lowers well, well warmon
Speaker 4: bed kind of like lowers you eternal temperature and like
Speaker 4: slows down you know.
Speaker 1: Your whole system. That's great.
Speaker 4: There might be a psychosomatic connection there. And that's my
Speaker 4: hot or should I say cold? Take damn yes, burn Lily?
Speaker 1: What is it? What is something from your search history?
Speaker 5: So you know, I saw the email and I said,
Speaker 5: let's take a look, And I think this truly does
Speaker 5: reveal my personality. It was just so many searches on
Speaker 5: a guy my friend went on two dates with where
Speaker 5: I'm just like looking at his Twitter feed, like looking
Speaker 5: at random photos, like an interview with him from like
Speaker 5: two thousand and three.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think I spent two So this is
Speaker 4: like an old guy.
Speaker 5: A little bit maybe oh three is a little farther.
Speaker 5: I'm actually do changing dates because I love privacy. Middle
Speaker 5: I want to give the gossip, but I don't want
Speaker 5: to give this man's full age.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'll go deep.
Speaker 5: On a roundom man, I don't know, tell me you're
Speaker 5: gonna go on one date with him?
Speaker 1: And did your friend know that you're doing the deep dive?
Speaker 1: Is this like something you'll report back? Yeah?
Speaker 5: She was like, this is his full name, so you know,
Speaker 5: she was giving me the deets.
Speaker 2: So and I was like the last last four digits
Speaker 2: of his social about the whole.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so now I have, you know, cut to me, like,
Speaker 5: I'm on ancestry dot com.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out if I'm related to him.
Speaker 1: Right, there's his PlayStation user name and this is I
Speaker 1: believe a burner account, so you search.
Speaker 5: That, Oh I think, yeah, he posted this on Reddit
Speaker 5: on his burner account.
Speaker 1: Interesting. What is something that you guys think is underrated?
Speaker 3: Underrated?
Speaker 4: Underrated? That's rare? What is underrated? I mean I just
Speaker 4: started watching Willing Gray again from like season one, but
Speaker 4: I don't feel like it's underrated. I don't think it's.
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, you can start with overrated if that,
Speaker 1: if that's if we want to work up to the underrated.
Speaker 3: Okay, well I have one for its kind of I
Speaker 3: guess this is underrated and kind of a mix. I
Speaker 3: do think my underrated, even though it's a really popular
Speaker 3: fast food chain of Popeyes. But I do think what's
Speaker 3: overrated is really like different expensive types of fried chicken,
Speaker 3: where I'm just like, I don't know how much better
Speaker 3: you can get for you know this thirty four dollars
Speaker 3: out of fancy restaurant. Is it going to be better
Speaker 3: than Popeyes?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of nailed it, haven't they?
Speaker 2: And the whole point of fried chicken is that it's
Speaker 2: like supposed to be the cheap. It's cheap. It's like,
Speaker 2: why make it nicer than it is?
Speaker 4: I do think, Okay, I like I like the Popeyes
Speaker 4: and thinks so buttery, and there's a flakiness the skin
Speaker 4: in that's really exciting. When I get start getting into
Speaker 4: the bone territory and of Popeyes, I do, I feel
Speaker 4: like I start to see the quality deteriorate. And those
Speaker 4: bones do make me a little uncomfortable. And I think
Speaker 4: they can be they can be brittle, they can be
Speaker 4: colors that don't feel super health forward. And when I'm
Speaker 4: looking at an amoral.
Speaker 3: Song of the bones are good, right, So you're saying
Speaker 3: the bones.
Speaker 4: I'm saying that the bones aren't so good, and it's
Speaker 4: kind of like it's one of those things where you
Speaker 4: know how you can feed like raw chick into a
Speaker 4: dog and it can eat it bones and all. Like
Speaker 4: I don't know if the rock chicken they're using a
Speaker 4: Popeyes is even is totally like dogga ball. I worry
Speaker 4: about those bones breaking and hurting my dog's trak. Ye,
Speaker 4: not that I would ever own a dog. That's what's
Speaker 4: overrated in my opinions.
Speaker 2: Dogs.
Speaker 1: You got there, dog owner?
Speaker 2: Shake you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that was the journey. So you I'm just
Speaker 1: having Do you want a sturdy bone in your bread chicken?
Speaker 4: Or are you saying when I get to the bone,
Speaker 4: I want like a porcelain un.
Speaker 1: Dirt there, like you want gorgeous, gleaming yeah, kind of yes,
Speaker 1: bone colored bone.
Speaker 4: I want a bone colored bone, some some sort of
Speaker 4: alabaster sculpture that I could knock on the wall.
Speaker 2: Right, You want like a cartoon bone like that and
Speaker 2: it's like a perfect skeleton.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it does have to be like such
Speaker 4: a massive femur, but.
Speaker 1: It sounds of his mouth with two hands. How clean
Speaker 1: are your bones when you're done with fried chicken?
Speaker 5: By the way, I would say, with wings I'm cleaning
Speaker 5: them hard.
Speaker 1: I take great, great pride in the cleanliness of my
Speaker 1: bones that it's just just bone, no grizzle. Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: after a lifetime growing up as a white American where
Speaker 1: I'm eating so much grizzle on the bone. And then
Speaker 1: my wife was like, what the fuck are you doing?
Speaker 2: This is all right here, this is this is this
Speaker 2: is amazing.
Speaker 1: She was like, this is and I can't let you
Speaker 1: continue on like this. And now we have clean bones,
Speaker 1: and I take.
Speaker 6: Great pride and does yeah, that's right, makes you a
Speaker 6: better person.
Speaker 5: Because it also feels like a dating like you know,
Speaker 5: twenty signs, like you know a guy, it's gonna be
Speaker 5: good in bed.
Speaker 3: They're like go up her wings.
Speaker 5: Like if he eats the whole wing, like you know,
Speaker 5: like he knows how to go down.
Speaker 7: Yes, ladies, my friend married a white guy and she
Speaker 7: was sending us pictures of his plates from their honeymoon,
Speaker 7: complaining about how he didn't clean various would not.
Speaker 2: Have been a worst sign I've never seen from the
Speaker 2: honey literally from Hawaii.
Speaker 4: Sounds like he wasn't eating the chicken or her Are
Speaker 4: they still I know, I assume they're divorced.
Speaker 8: They're together for now, but okay, we're keeping our eye
Speaker 8: on them. Yeah, I'm just gonna post a picture from
Speaker 8: the honeymoon when it all goes bad and just say
Speaker 8: we all knew this was right.
Speaker 2: We could tell from the jump.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure she'll appreciate that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they use it like in divorce court.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, Yeah, she gets he's getting everything, Are you kidding?
Speaker 4: I would say I'm probably definitely more in the white
Speaker 4: stereotype of not getting all to the gristle.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I feel like I get I get the I get
Speaker 4: the good parts, but then I also might like, you know,
Speaker 4: hand the rest of it to a friend, you know,
Speaker 4: to a hungry Friend's.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm around clean. I had a I went to
Speaker 2: a one of those Japanese joints where they give you
Speaker 2: the whole shrimp and and the shrimp heads were like
Speaker 2: grilled hard enough, and they brought a bowl for the
Speaker 2: shrimp heads, and I was like, no, no, no, we
Speaker 2: don't need that chip. We're eating the heads. We're all
Speaker 2: Asian people here, and all of my friends sold me out.
Speaker 2: They're like, actually I don't really, So I had to
Speaker 2: eat like nine shrimp heads. I thought I was going
Speaker 2: to have like anaphylactic shock. It was not good.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: You were like yeah, literally, like we are not pussies,
Speaker 5: like we can do this. And they're like, oh, I
Speaker 5: would take the bowl and you're like, okay.
Speaker 4: That's crazy. I love shrimp heads. I love eating hat
Speaker 4: on shrimp, even when you're like, not supposed to. I'll
Speaker 4: eat the whole damn head. Yes, with all the little
Speaker 4: and the eyes and everything. They're so smarter.
Speaker 2: Yes, as smart as a shrimp. That's what we say.
Speaker 2: Just trying to be as smart as any given shrimp.
Speaker 4: You need their brain food.
Speaker 9: Yeah, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back
Speaker 9: and we're back.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for for with me during some audio.
Speaker 2: Some glits don't tell them they don't know.
Speaker 1: They don't know. It's just in case, just in case,
Speaker 1: people can consense the strain in my voice. It's not
Speaker 1: your fault, and I swear this never happens anyways. All right,
Speaker 1: X is suing Media Matters for pointing out their obvious
Speaker 1: Nazi problem. So you know, Media Matters did an analysis
Speaker 1: that showed how ads from big, big brands were popping
Speaker 1: up next to pro Nazi posts, and it's like, not
Speaker 1: they're not subtle. The pro Nazi posts have gotten very unsubtle.
Speaker 1: Have you guys noticed that? They're like what enlightenment looks like?
Speaker 1: What people think spiritual awakening is? Like first, what it's
Speaker 1: actually like? And it's like somebody doing yoga versus just
Speaker 1: like a picture of Hitler and like Hitler guys like
Speaker 1: and like brown shirts. They're like, that's that's your real
Speaker 1: spiritual enlightenment. It's but anyways, that is right next to
Speaker 1: an Apple, right next to an Apple ad, which I
Speaker 1: feel like Apple can't be can't be thrilled about. So
Speaker 1: you know, Media Matters reported they'd found at least five
Speaker 1: major brands with ads next to posts that taut Taut
Speaker 1: Hitler and his Nazi party on X, we're touting the Hitler.
Speaker 1: But Apple and IBM paused their ad spending on X,
Speaker 1: as did companies like Disney, Paramount, Warner Brothers, Discovery, probably
Speaker 1: not just because of the Media Matters article, and probably
Speaker 1: also because Elon Musk's most recent posts have accused Jewish
Speaker 1: communities of pushing hatred against whites, So, you know, just
Speaker 1: reminding everyone what really anti semitism looks like. He's gone
Speaker 1: hard on that stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's really like, how I mean, I just
Speaker 2: assumed Twitter used to be like the worst people on earth,
Speaker 2: and it is actually truly amazing to see what actually
Speaker 2: the worst people can be. Yeah, it's coming strong.
Speaker 1: We thought it was like the worst it could be,
Speaker 1: and there it turns out there was like a thousand
Speaker 1: people behind the scenes, just like working day and night
Speaker 1: to get to keep it as good as it was,
Speaker 1: and they just fired all those people. So yeah, this
Speaker 1: is now just a slurry, a flood of garbage juice
Speaker 1: that you know they were fighting their hardest to keep
Speaker 1: to hold back.
Speaker 4: I'm curious as to who is ever clicked on an
Speaker 4: ad on Twitter? Ever, I'm a little like, has that
Speaker 4: ever proved useful for any company to advertise on Twitter?
Speaker 4: Have you ever purchased something from an ad you saw
Speaker 4: on Twitter at any point in Twitter's history.
Speaker 1: I That's the only way I guess at anything. Is
Speaker 1: I just clicking through Twitter AEDs and banner ads is
Speaker 1: how I find out about all my stuff and all
Speaker 1: the free.
Speaker 3: I am the spambot.
Speaker 5: That's like accidentally being like, actually, yeah, I will click
Speaker 5: on this pizza hut that stuff.
Speaker 3: Crust and then like instantly I'm brought a message from
Speaker 3: Twitter from look, this is there.
Speaker 5: Was one time. This is just it only happened once.
Speaker 5: I was intrigued what they were selling with their de
Speaker 5: quote unquote and this is an overrated Detroit style pizza
Speaker 5: and I was just curious what they were talking about.
Speaker 3: And yeah, so.
Speaker 4: I clicked okay to buy the pizza.
Speaker 3: No, I learn about it.
Speaker 4: So the conversion rate on that is zero. Still love
Speaker 4: anecdotally right now.
Speaker 2: It's still though, like learning about new fast food has
Speaker 2: to be one of Twitter's remaining uses. Is like, oh, fuck,
Speaker 2: they're putting you know, they're making hamburgers at Del Taco
Speaker 2: for some reason. Yeah, I guess I'm compelled to try it.
Speaker 4: But then aren't you seeing that, Like isn't that like
Speaker 4: just some sort of viral video that you're seeing that's
Speaker 4: like a screen grab or something that someone else is
Speaker 4: posting you're seeing it on Twitter versus like you're seeing
Speaker 4: a sponsor post for it, because yeah, like that kind
Speaker 4: of advertising, you know, it's like, you know, we I
Speaker 4: learn about a lot of television shows and movies that
Speaker 4: people are talking about because people talking about on Twitter
Speaker 4: that you know, that's advertising for Netflix or whatever. It
Speaker 4: is like that's not going to go away, and and
Speaker 4: I think that's still probably what these companies find most
Speaker 4: valuable at Twitter versus you know this ad for T
Speaker 4: mobile that no one's clicking on. Well maybe people are,
Speaker 4: and I'm not clicking and I'm just being you know,
Speaker 4: I've got my head in the sand. And it action
Speaker 4: is like a real grandpa.
Speaker 2: Everyone's buying cell phone service via a sponsored link.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the bigg like propaganda I've seen recently, as I
Speaker 5: was watching a new Lifetime lesbian thriller starring Krashelle of
Speaker 5: selling Sunset and there was like crazy like like Israeli
Speaker 5: army propaganda that was also that. Then right after that
Speaker 5: played a Bounty paper towel ad and I was like,
Speaker 5: this is kind of what I was not expecting from
Speaker 5: the ads of a Lante time fan.
Speaker 4: And not only that, but it worked.
Speaker 2: Joined amazing bounty paper towel, perfect for wiping up.
Speaker 5: Just anything, anything cleanups, you know, doesn't matter where they
Speaker 5: came from.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to your point, I've not heard I've not even
Speaker 1: heard of people really successfully like buying, you know, a
Speaker 1: product being advertised on Twitter and converting into a sale.
Speaker 1: And yet apples add money alone totaled approximately one hundred
Speaker 1: million dollars in twenty twenty two. Yeah, which, wow, so
Speaker 1: that's a lot to be paused to put on pause.
Speaker 4: They couldn't spend that on like making the phones work better, or.
Speaker 5: They don't want to make the phones work better. They
Speaker 5: want us to just keep on buying bad Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, but that's the kind of advertising, right, That's like,
Speaker 2: it's not like you're supposed to like see the ad
Speaker 2: and buy it. You're just supposed to like have this
Speaker 2: pervasive sense that everyone's using an iPhone.
Speaker 4: You're just supposed to know that Apple it controls your life.
Speaker 4: And yeah, they're unavoidable. It's just this, Yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: I left my overlord.
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess it makes me think how Steven's
Speaker 5: mother bought an electric Mustang because she hates Elon so much.
Speaker 4: Oh right, she didn't want to buy a Tesla.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, I mean once you know, he's losing the boomer liberals,
Speaker 4: he's losing Apples, He's gonna lose it all. I mean,
Speaker 4: I will say, I don't think Elon ever purchased Twitter
Speaker 4: as like a financial It was always supposed to be
Speaker 4: like financially unfootable, right, and Twitter has always been like
Speaker 4: not profitable, right, I mean, I just like the whole
Speaker 4: point of Twitter is it's like, you know, it's a
Speaker 4: public forum, it's chalk. It's like it's never ever gonna
Speaker 4: really make anyone a lot of money. And he bought
Speaker 4: it as a vanity project, and you know, it remains
Speaker 4: it remains that way, you know, and it.
Speaker 1: With ridentity project has like turned his brand and all
Speaker 1: of like so much of his wealth was based on
Speaker 1: his brand and he's just like fucking turned. It's so
Speaker 1: toxic and just shit all over it.
Speaker 5: Right, It's only helped him make him look like a
Speaker 5: nineteen eighties movie creepy computer villain, which is like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was vibe, yeah, but like not that smart.
Speaker 1: Usually they those people were like magic and like smart
Speaker 1: and could solve everything with computers, and like he seems
Speaker 1: kind of like a fuck up at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did you guys even think about covering like, is that
Speaker 1: this sort of celebrity, Like does he count as a celebrity?
Speaker 1: Would you cover the Walter Isaacson elon Musk book.
Speaker 4: Wow, we only we we were a literary criticism pod,
Speaker 4: so we and we use books as a way to
Speaker 4: talk about the author. So if we did that book,
Speaker 4: we would if we did an episode on Walter Isaacson,
Speaker 4: we might do that book, but we wouldn't do but
Speaker 4: it would have to be we don't do it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: So maybe we could maybe do a whole book on,
Speaker 4: you know, an episode on an Elon tweet or something,
Speaker 4: or an Elon tweet thread that could be interesting, that
Speaker 4: could count.
Speaker 2: As a book.
Speaker 3: We could do his deposition.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait because eventually he's gonna have an
Speaker 2: autobiography ghost written and it is going to be the
Speaker 2: most insane thing, so epic.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sorry, what is there a book that you
Speaker 1: guys reviewed where you were like, holy shit, Like Nancy
Speaker 1: Kerrigan is the great like literary voice of our time
Speaker 1: and we just didn't know we didn't realize it. Or
Speaker 1: is there somebody who like was just unexpectedly a great
Speaker 1: writer or like just had like really poignant moments.
Speaker 4: Definitely wasn't Nancy carragrim.
Speaker 1: I would not have expected that book.
Speaker 5: I will say, you know, you know, underrated actress but
Speaker 5: a vulnerable great comedian is the actress of Despert Housewives,
Speaker 5: Terry Hatcher. Her book was so fun so funny, so real,
Speaker 5: so vulnerable in a way that you know, some celebrities
Speaker 5: aren't ready to write about themselves in that way. So wow, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm going to give it up to Terry Hatcher.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Terry Hatters was super revealing. I mean, I do
Speaker 4: tend to think some of the better books are just
Speaker 4: good because they have good ghost writers. Yeah, you know, Andre,
Speaker 4: like Andre Agassi's book and Prince Harry's book are both
Speaker 4: goes written by this guy Moranger who's a great writer,
Speaker 4: and it's like Prince Harry is a complete unsympathetic character,
Speaker 4: but the writing.
Speaker 2: Is it's it's occasionally.
Speaker 1: Quite gripping, you know, really well done. Yeah. Yeah, did
Speaker 1: you read the New Yorker article by him about writing
Speaker 1: the Prince Harry book.
Speaker 4: I want to say I did. And then.
Speaker 2: Well wait at this point, does that mean y'all have
Speaker 2: like a like a list of your favorite ghost writers?
Speaker 3: I mean kind of, I guess.
Speaker 4: I mean the ghostwriter is not that prominent. I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, the whole you know Emphysis on ghost.
Speaker 3: Well, because there's like two schools.
Speaker 5: There's the memoir that will be like, you know, someone
Speaker 5: with like Louisa farren Son and you're like, Okay, they're
Speaker 5: putting the ghost writer out there, or it will just
Speaker 5: be like Demi Moore.
Speaker 3: But it turns out that Demi Moore book was by
Speaker 3: I'm blanking on her.
Speaker 1: Name, Ariel Levy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ari, and that book was like so well written.
Speaker 5: My favorite ghostwriter was we did Demi Levado's mother's memoir
Speaker 5: and hers was ghost written by this woman. And I
Speaker 5: went to her website and like all of her other
Speaker 5: credits were just from like a local interior design magazine
Speaker 5: in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: Fuck, yes, yeah that's the gig.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she shot for the moon on that one.
Speaker 3: Never stopped trying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she was really good.
Speaker 3: She was no but I just loved her.
Speaker 1: It's just her friend from the street who was like yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean that book was insane because the whole time
Speaker 4: you're reading it, you're just like, this is Demi Levado's
Speaker 4: mom and it's like every page you're like, okay, so
Speaker 4: you really thought, like like we needed to know this,
Speaker 4: like what it was like raising the others, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, focuses mainly on that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a there's a whole handful, but.
Speaker 1: Overall, do you guys have your do you have your
Speaker 1: favorite just book in general, like the one that you
Speaker 1: recommend to people when they're like, okay, you're this is
Speaker 1: what your podcast is about, Like, what's the one that
Speaker 1: I should read that? Like nobody?
Speaker 4: Well, ideally you would listen to the podcast and then
Speaker 4: you wouldn't have to read anything.
Speaker 1: Right there?
Speaker 4: You go, hold ong h. You know that's that's what
Speaker 4: we really try to impart to our listeners. Stop spending
Speaker 4: money at Barnes and Noble. Cut up your Barnes and
Speaker 4: Noble card. Okay you about to do with interest?
Speaker 3: Barnes and Noble credit cards are crazy.
Speaker 4: It's insane. It's like thirty percent. They're Nickel and Diamonio
Speaker 4: over them. Barnes and Noble for like Nickel and Dime.
Speaker 4: It's awful. But I would say I I my favorite
Speaker 4: books are. I tend to like either of the ones
Speaker 4: that are super sassy and have a ton of like
Speaker 4: tea and dirt in them. So I always say Janis
Speaker 4: Dickinson is a real fun one for that you know
Speaker 4: there's just tons of drugs and sex and celebrity, and
Speaker 4: you know she's stealing a car from the pope and
Speaker 4: then like fucking Antonio and or like Liam Neeson on
Speaker 4: a beach and she is telling you how big his
Speaker 4: dick is, like that pretty billy run.
Speaker 1: Oh. She describes it.
Speaker 4: As an evy on bottle. Wow, which is something I
Speaker 4: will never stop thinking about.
Speaker 2: Like the tear drop one like it maybe it oh wow, No.
Speaker 1: It's very weird weirdly shaped. Also yeah yeah huge yeah.
Speaker 4: And then also in that category put Mike Lindell, the
Speaker 4: My Pillow guy who has a self published memoir which
Speaker 4: is just incredible, and it's just again, it's just he's
Speaker 4: always like blowing in a ball of coke while he's
Speaker 4: being chased by the cops, and then like almost getting
Speaker 4: murdered in Mexico before he's down forty thousand dollars in Vegas,
Speaker 4: and then like like doing crap for a week and
Speaker 4: after leaving a house, like it's really insane, And that.
Speaker 5: One feels very un I feel like my favorites are
Speaker 5: the ones that really both those like don't feel ghost written.
Speaker 3: It feels like.
Speaker 5: My favorite scene from a film is the nineteen fifty
Speaker 5: six film on Team Maine with Roslin Russell, and it's
Speaker 5: like about this fabulous woman and she finally like her
Speaker 5: son like hires like a secretary to write her memoirs,
Speaker 5: and it's just her walking around her huge apartment as
Speaker 5: like a nerdy woman types and like that is how
Speaker 5: I feel like my favorite books get written person walking
Speaker 5: around talking someone.
Speaker 1: Just like scribbling it down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right. Like the best celebrity memoirs are essentially
Speaker 2: like the ghostwriters, more of a copy editor slash slight
Speaker 2: organizer of whatever is coming out of their mouth.
Speaker 1: Who's afraid for their life of the entire time. It's
Speaker 1: like there's some some severe sunset boulevard vibes. Yes, they're
Speaker 1: like this person might kill me at the end of this,
Speaker 1: and that's how you know it's a good celebrity memoir. Amazing.
Speaker 4: There's also the ones I'll say where just the person
Speaker 4: it's themselves is a writer, and so then those are good,
Speaker 4: like Nora Fron or like Tina Brown, where it's just like, oh,
Speaker 4: they're just like a fabulous New York lady who has
Speaker 4: like who just has an arch turn of phrase and they're.
Speaker 1: Right, just been saving up these burns for like forty years, exactly,
Speaker 1: amazing them at cocktail parties. Yeah, now they're.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, Tina Brown will just be like Kissinger.
Speaker 1: Look terrible.
Speaker 5: She wrote that on a napkin, like you know that
Speaker 5: she found in like an old desk, and she's like,
Speaker 5: exactly right, I forgot about this.
Speaker 3: Kissinger looked terrible.
Speaker 1: Kissinger looked terrible. Amazing. Can picture Kissinger in the mirror
Speaker 1: before he leaves, Yeah, before he leaves, just being like,
Speaker 1: I look like shit, damn it.
Speaker 2: Have to go bomb the country now.
Speaker 4: They didn't moisturize back then. I don't know real.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come
Speaker 1: back and talk about JFK. Oh great, Okay, we'll be
Speaker 1: right back, and we're back, and today is, of course,
Speaker 1: the sixtieth anniversary of the JFK assassination. I'm sure you
Speaker 1: guys knew that you've been preparing, and you have your
Speaker 1: little party schedule.
Speaker 2: I have that you shoot. Actually, I don't know what
Speaker 2: you guys do.
Speaker 5: I'm renting a Cadillac tonight to do a drive throughout
Speaker 5: my neighborhood.
Speaker 3: Steven's gonna shoot.
Speaker 4: Me, I'm gonna shoot you. I'm making my famous pillbox
Speaker 4: hot pie for Thanksgiving, a.
Speaker 1: Little pink Yeah, I love it. I just sit in
Speaker 1: the upper window and throw firecrackers out of it. So that.
Speaker 1: You know, people get scared.
Speaker 5: Thank abertime out JFK just as a masshole. You know,
Speaker 5: I could just talk about.
Speaker 3: Love JFKH on President President.
Speaker 1: That's right. So I hear it's not safe in Dallas
Speaker 1: for Catholics according to that old Steady lyric. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of events going on in Dallas
Speaker 1: to commemorate it, and they're kind of like, there's so
Speaker 1: the movie theater where Lee Harvey Oswald was captured will
Speaker 1: be playing the actual double feature that was playing when
Speaker 1: he snuck into the theater.
Speaker 3: Whoa. I'm like literally booking tickets. That sounds so fun.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, I've been to that theater before. I really
Speaker 2: was like visiting a friend in Dallas and like we're like,
Speaker 2: fuck it, let's go see a movie. And then she
Speaker 2: was like we like get in. She's like, you know,
Speaker 2: this is where Lee Harvey Oswald hung out and we
Speaker 2: watched Paris Dispatch and it was only okay.
Speaker 1: Paris Dispatch. I don't even know that one.
Speaker 2: Or is that the the Wes Anderson was it not?
Speaker 2: What's it called?
Speaker 1: Oh the French Dispatch?
Speaker 5: French Dispatch, Yes, yeah, specific and that's actually Wes Anderson
Speaker 5: films were playing when JFK died.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people don't know that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's I don't know, have you guys ever been
Speaker 1: to Dallas? Like have you ever been to Daily Plaza
Speaker 1: or no?
Speaker 5: I feel like it's like I have not, yeah, been
Speaker 5: to Dallas, But I feel like get growing up in
Speaker 5: mass Like you can't you know, turn right left without
Speaker 5: some JFK niss you know, thrift stores or you know
Speaker 5: people time when he died, or like plates with his
Speaker 5: face on it, like it's aft store.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a JFK is deep and the culture.
Speaker 5: But I mean he's one of my style, like cons
Speaker 5: and I feel like I've always been like obsessed with
Speaker 5: like you know him and Sinatra and Marilyn Monroe and
Speaker 5: how like but cool guys they all were.
Speaker 1: But what about the death Lily?
Speaker 4: Did that fascinates you in the same way? Fast?
Speaker 3: Okay, so it's you asked me that, Jack Ruby.
Speaker 4: You know, it was quite a tumultuous time for America
Speaker 4: in the sixties.
Speaker 5: I wanted to This is very me. I was like,
Speaker 5: as a kid, like a kind of thirteen year old,
Speaker 5: I was like, I want to get into conspiracy JFK
Speaker 5: stuff and that that was on my list of to
Speaker 5: dos as a teen, but I've never fully kind of
Speaker 5: went there, but I was like, this is something I
Speaker 5: could have fun with.
Speaker 1: Never too late, that's true.
Speaker 3: I think that is more of an older activity.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's yes. And I guess this is like if
Speaker 2: you're going to get into conspiracies, now, this is like
Speaker 2: quaint at this point, right, it's.
Speaker 3: Such a retro like, oh, what a cute conspiracy.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, There's so many more places you could go.
Speaker 1: Like Dallas has a weird, weird relationship to it. Like
Speaker 1: I don't know when when Kennedy was like travel to Dallas,
Speaker 1: people were like this is dangerous. People in Dallas fucking
Speaker 1: hate this guy, Like it's he better be careful. Like
Speaker 1: before it was like it was not seen as like
Speaker 1: a safe move. And then like the museum, the person
Speaker 1: who owned the book depository like took the window that
Speaker 1: Lee Harvey Oswald shot him from out of the side
Speaker 1: of repository and put it in his house. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: put it in his house as like a trophy like.
Speaker 5: For you know, he didn't install like yeah, just like
Speaker 5: on a table window.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you older, like how he how
Speaker 1: he had it, but yeah, it was like a thing
Speaker 1: that he was like, yeah, we did it, guys, And
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's a good book about the Bush
Speaker 1: family that talks about how like George H. W. Bush
Speaker 1: was in Dallas at the time. It was like one
Speaker 1: of the first people the CIA called, like after he
Speaker 1: was assassinated, but he was not like actually a CIA agent.
Speaker 1: He was not like nominally a CIA agent at that time.
Speaker 1: That's the only CIA connection that George H. W. Bush
Speaker 1: had before they made him the head of the CIA. Like,
Speaker 1: so it's like very people were like, wait, why is
Speaker 1: he becoming the head of the CIA? Has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with the CIA? And they're like, nothing that you
Speaker 1: know of to do with the CIA. But he was
Speaker 1: literally the first person we called when Kennedy was assassinated,
Speaker 1: and there's just like all you know, and that's that's
Speaker 1: Bush country down there in Texas.
Speaker 4: And so what the theory is that's weird is that
Speaker 4: they did that. They called him and they were like
Speaker 4: we did it, honey, yeah.
Speaker 1: Like and said way to go, Yeah, nice shot, nice shot,
Speaker 1: nice shot.
Speaker 2: Age Like the twentieth century is just some hatfield and
Speaker 2: McCoy's ship. And when you go to this level, it's
Speaker 2: just like a family feuds.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 5: It's like we don't have no one gets like, you know,
Speaker 5: classically assassinated anymore like they used to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I know. People always say we live
Speaker 4: in a crazy time, when it's like, honey, let me
Speaker 4: tell you about a little decade called the sixties. Okay,
Speaker 4: political leaders are getting assassinated left and right, and and
Speaker 4: we miss that, like we missed kidnapping.
Speaker 2: Is that right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kidnapping. It's you know, everyone's you. It's when
Speaker 3: men wore hats to assassinate you know, thank you dressed up.
Speaker 4: It wasn't And Jack Ruby wore a hat when he
Speaker 4: Shortley Hovels, Well, wasn't it. And now I'm just making
Speaker 4: this is a powerphle, but it could be true if
Speaker 4: he wasn't.
Speaker 1: Wearing a hat when he assassinated him. He had just
Speaker 1: taken it.
Speaker 3: Off because a woman was there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was just like, please.
Speaker 3: Good day to you.
Speaker 2: And then under the hat is a little is a
Speaker 2: little gun. Maybe that would be nice.
Speaker 4: Hello, I do think that, you know, I guess I
Speaker 4: mean the hot shakers. People love celebrity and that's a
Speaker 4: famous thing that happens, so they'll be obsessed with it forever.
Speaker 4: I mean, how many times was there like a huge
Speaker 4: prominent assassination like at a at a public place that
Speaker 4: we can all go to, and like like there's that
Speaker 4: great Eric Abadoo music video where she's walking naked through
Speaker 4: Dallas and she's taking off all her clothes window seats
Speaker 4: is the song, and then she gets right to the
Speaker 4: point where JFK is assassinated, and she is now completely
Speaker 4: nude and her back is facing the camera the whole time.
Speaker 4: It's like all one shot. But it's yeah, it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: It is art.
Speaker 4: It's art. It just it literally is art.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The pictures that the families take in a like replica,
Speaker 1: Like there's there's an activity, a family activity you can
Speaker 1: do where you drive around in a linking convertible and
Speaker 1: recreate the final moments of Kennedy's life. And there's like
Speaker 1: all these pictures of like families just like what cheesing,
Speaker 1: like looking back behind like where towards where the shots
Speaker 1: came from, like smiling. There's like one was like a
Speaker 1: five year old girl like sitting in the Kennedy spot.
Speaker 6: It's like that I mean, listen, I don't think anyone
Speaker 6: should kill any members of their family, but if you're gonna,
Speaker 6: this would be one of the funnier ways to have
Speaker 6: it hilarious.
Speaker 4: You assassinate grandma while she's riding in the back of
Speaker 4: this JFK experience, it would be so.
Speaker 2: Weird, it'd be so hard to explain to people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh goody.
Speaker 5: It does feel what you were saying, though, very like Dallas,
Speaker 5: where I feel like it's much more like a Dallas
Speaker 5: to recreate like, yeah, like kind of this crazy cowboy
Speaker 5: shoot him up scenario. Where's Massachusetts is just like, let's
Speaker 5: praise think of him on a boat. Yeah, No, one's
Speaker 5: driving around in that clause.
Speaker 4: He wasn't assassinated in Massachusetts.
Speaker 5: No, but I'm saying, no one's wanting to kind of
Speaker 5: even really at a museum have that experience go on.
Speaker 4: No, it does imply us somewhat of a disrespect for
Speaker 4: the dead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which we do not do in Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I have been.
Speaker 4: Do you think in fifty years we'll be doing like
Speaker 4: nine to eleven experiences where you can get in a
Speaker 4: plane that just does a flyby of ground zero.
Speaker 1: They have an X on the ground where he was
Speaker 1: when he was shot, and tourists like run out to
Speaker 1: the X and like give a little thumbs up while
Speaker 1: like standing next to the X and holding up traffic.
Speaker 1: Presumably Oh my god. So that's cool, wow and classy
Speaker 1: A good way to classy stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dallas is a weird, weird city. I will I
Speaker 2: will just say the like food was not kind of
Speaker 2: as like Texas amazing as I'd hope shot I fired.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: I was really hoping for some you know, big I
Speaker 2: don't know, brisket where they're supposed to do down there.
Speaker 2: It was fine, but.
Speaker 3: You were un impressed by the VBQ.
Speaker 2: I was more impressed by water burger, which admittedly is
Speaker 2: amazing and will fucking kill you so fast. But it
Speaker 2: was very good.
Speaker 4: Why is that one of those where it's like a
Speaker 4: smash burger where it's like flash or is it like
Speaker 4: really large?
Speaker 2: It was kind of normal, but it was just like
Speaker 2: so they must put butter on it or something. It's
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, just fast food burger. I got
Speaker 2: I ate one in a rental car like one second
Speaker 2: out of the airport, and it was so good.
Speaker 5: That's such a beautiful experience. Rental car, Yeah, regional fast food.
Speaker 1: Directly, they're all over the.
Speaker 2: Fucking like steering wheel.
Speaker 3: It's not my car, not your car.
Speaker 2: I just for the record, I would also do that
Speaker 2: in my car.
Speaker 5: But right you're like, oh, no, my car is a sanctuary.
Speaker 4: Your your Olantra is just a greased up hog.
Speaker 2: That's right, That's what I call it.
Speaker 5: Well, I wasn't planning a trip to Dallas, but this
Speaker 5: honestly sounds kind of insane, so I might now you.
Speaker 4: Need to assassination experience.
Speaker 1: There's like a little cottage industry of like little conspiracy
Speaker 1: theorists like that. There there are people who want to
Speaker 1: talk to you about the JFK assassination, just like kind
Speaker 1: of roaming the streets around where it happened. The museum
Speaker 1: runs a gallery and event space on the seventh floor,
Speaker 1: but they like try and keep it classy. They're like
Speaker 1: not available for weddings or bar and bought mitzvah celebrations,
Speaker 1: and a way not to bring food or drinks downstairs
Speaker 1: to the assassination exhibition. Sorry.
Speaker 4: So there's there's like in the sixth floor of the
Speaker 4: book Depository.
Speaker 1: Yes, where os Well allegedly shot.
Speaker 4: From you know, every everybody has a price. I bet
Speaker 4: for a few mail you could get a wedding in there.
Speaker 2: I mean, like all things, the keys just don't tell
Speaker 2: them you're having a wedding. Just to do it.
Speaker 4: Ask for forgiveness, not permission.
Speaker 3: I'm having.
Speaker 5: They didn't say retirement party. I'm having a retirement party
Speaker 5: for JFK was assassinated.
Speaker 3: I'm already wanting the merch.
Speaker 5: I rode the car that JFK was assassinated and all
Speaker 5: was hurt.
Speaker 1: Like banquet, is it appropriate to be like this is
Speaker 1: where the shot is asked from? Like I guess like
Speaker 1: a Republican convention of republican.
Speaker 2: Thing is probably pretty good down there. I'm surprised they
Speaker 2: don't have a thing where you can like like target
Speaker 2: shoot down to the X from the book depository.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh like see if you can get the shot, that.
Speaker 2: Would be the most Texas thing possible. It's just like
Speaker 2: here's your gun, here's one bullet. I guess three bullets.
Speaker 2: I don't remember how many bullets was And it's carnival.
Speaker 5: They're like three shots for five dollars, three shots for
Speaker 5: five dollars.
Speaker 4: JFK like stuff animal.
Speaker 2: It's it's like it's like a normal if you if
Speaker 2: you get the shot, you get the like head blown
Speaker 2: off one and if.
Speaker 1: You don't, you just get like kind of holding his neck.
Speaker 2: Like a New World Order pin. I don't remember what
Speaker 2: they thought was happening. I need to be educated by
Speaker 2: these people.
Speaker 4: Years ago, I read the book called Reclaiming History by
Speaker 4: Vincent Bugliosi, who also wrote Helter Skelter about the Manson murders.
Speaker 4: But it's it's a door stoppa. It's an extremely thick tome,
Speaker 4: but he basically debunks every possible conspiracy theory about the
Speaker 4: JFK assassination. And it did kind of convince me, and
Speaker 4: I was kind of like, Okay, well he spent on
Speaker 4: you spent a long time researching this.
Speaker 2: I guess it was.
Speaker 4: It was just lee.
Speaker 2: It would be so boring to write that book if
Speaker 2: it weren't true, Like imagine making a boring thing that
Speaker 2: was fake.
Speaker 1: Come on.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: There's a book called Mortal Error, The Shot that Killed
Speaker 1: JFK by Bonner Manager that I highly recommend. It's the
Speaker 1: it's the one that I find. It's the conspiracy theory
Speaker 1: I find most convincing, and it's the one where the
Speaker 1: first shot came from Oswald and then the second shot
Speaker 1: came from a Secret Service agent freaking out, and like.
Speaker 5: That's the one in my early research I believed in, Yeah,
Speaker 5: because because you're just like, yeah, I don't know, I mean,
Speaker 5: Secret Services being shocked up.
Speaker 4: To human era and incompetence. You know, so many world
Speaker 4: events are just incompetence.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they basically stop. Yeah, it was a big it
Speaker 1: was a big time whoopsie. But that's why the shots
Speaker 1: like looked different. The first one just like passed through
Speaker 1: them cleanly because it came from Oswald's gun, and then
Speaker 1: the second one came from like one of these like CIA,
Speaker 1: you know, Secret Service rather like M four teens that
Speaker 1: have like the rounds they're spinning so fast they just
Speaker 1: like destroy whatever they hit so that we play Fortnite.
Speaker 2: We know, we all what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: What happened?
Speaker 2: Yeah, all of duty.
Speaker 3: Do you guys think you have what it takes to
Speaker 3: be a Secret Service agent?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: I get so distracted by boredom, Like I would need
Speaker 1: to be able to be listening to podcasts, which I
Speaker 1: don't think you're allowed to do.
Speaker 3: Your pieces always, So I'm sure they would be.
Speaker 1: So mad if they found out I was listening to
Speaker 1: your podcast well protecting the President, and I would like
Speaker 1: laugh and they'd be like, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 3: I don't know, Biden said something hilarious.
Speaker 4: And they're just like, I don't know if I buy that, babe.
Speaker 3: Because I think so much of it is waiting around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in that the main job, according to popular media
Speaker 2: is getting shot. I guess I could do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you think you take a bullet like a you're
Speaker 1: in for that.
Speaker 2: I'm not like enthusiastic about it, but I could do it.
Speaker 4: Something I've never understood about the whole, like, you know,
Speaker 4: hypothetical of taking a bullet for the principle, for the
Speaker 4: for the person your guardian as I'm kind of like,
Speaker 4: if you have time to jump in front of.
Speaker 1: The bullet, just push him out of the way.
Speaker 4: Do we not have time for yeah, to push him
Speaker 4: out of the way. It just seems like what's going
Speaker 4: on here?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like they want you to take the
Speaker 2: bullet more than like actually doing your job.
Speaker 1: It's a power trip. The president just wants to, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: just to know that somebody is willing to do that
Speaker 1: for him. The presidents are needy, you guys. Yeah, one
Speaker 1: thing that we've all learned. How about you guys, you
Speaker 1: think you'd be able to do it?
Speaker 4: Oh God, now.
Speaker 5: I'm I'm not saying i'd be good at it, but honestly,
Speaker 5: like I think I could just like walk around and
Speaker 5: like wear a suit and then like run slowly like
Speaker 5: they're always like not keeping up and everything, and like that.
Speaker 4: Part you would nail that, like that kind of jog
Speaker 4: in a suit and then just stopping, I think, and then.
Speaker 3: Like talking to her pairs.
Speaker 5: I'm being like, Okay, duke is one of our codes,
Speaker 5: will be like duke to the left.
Speaker 4: That would be fun, Like it was fun when people
Speaker 4: are entering and exiting buildings. That it part is great,
Speaker 4: but all the rest of it is just like yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Wait, and you're talking about like hearing outside the building,
Speaker 2: like stick your head out here both ways and then
Speaker 2: report clear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, who's this guy? Who's this guy left? Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the duke is entering olive garden? You know, Like
Speaker 4: that's fun.
Speaker 2: I think, not that I could do it well, but
Speaker 2: I could do any job that requires carrying a gun
Speaker 2: as well as most people who do that job because
Speaker 2: they mostly do it incredibly bad.
Speaker 1: I could definitely do that, Yeah, yeah, because I just wouldn't.
Speaker 4: Use the gun. So that's I don't agree. But yeah,
Speaker 4: all cops are. They're bad up and like they're all
Speaker 4: like lazy and weird. And I feel like I was
Speaker 4: at the arcade recently and I I got the top
Speaker 4: score on a shooting game in the whole fuck yeah
Speaker 4: on the machine, like on the machine, And I was like, oh, actually,
Speaker 4: I mean I've been sanely accurate.
Speaker 2: Yes, shooting touches.
Speaker 5: Them, like getting prospective CIA members from arcades, they tap you.
Speaker 5: I could also, you could wear those sunglasses they'd sell
Speaker 5: a party stores that have mirrors on the side.
Speaker 1: Not the wrap around. Yeah, no, of sunglasses.
Speaker 2: Wrap around Oakley's mirrored Oakley's though, So it's like a
Speaker 2: three sixty behind your.
Speaker 1: Head, directly behind you.
Speaker 4: It's like an ima screen.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Well, Steven and Lily, it's been such a pleasure having
Speaker 1: you guys on the Daily Geist. Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: Follow you all that good stuff?
Speaker 5: Oh god, it's been a pleasure to beyond here talking
Speaker 5: about JFK, my favorite subject.
Speaker 3: Well, you can follow our podcast and listen to it.
Speaker 3: On Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Celebrity book Club Stephen and
Speaker 3: Lily and we're on Instagram at.
Speaker 4: Where you got your podcast?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had with you guys.
Speaker 4: But yeah, and when you Google, just make sure you
Speaker 4: look for Celebrity book Club with Stephen and Lily. That's crucial.
Speaker 1: There are other celebrity book clubs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are the bad ones.
Speaker 3: And follow us on x Twitter.
Speaker 2: If you're a Nazi, follow follow them on re access.
Speaker 1: Please? Is there a work of media that you guys
Speaker 1: have been enjoying besides your own podcast?
Speaker 5: I just started this probably doesn't need any more advertisement,
Speaker 5: but I just started the Nathan Fielder and the Stone Show.
Speaker 4: I started that. I just I'm obsessed with it. It's
Speaker 4: so good.
Speaker 3: It's so good. It's they play like haunted HGTV hosts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how are you guys watching that? Are you like
Speaker 1: Paramount Plus?
Speaker 5: Is that? My girlfriend subscribes to Showtime Social Okay, Nixium
Speaker 5: doc and now you know Classic You never run subscribe
Speaker 5: to stuff.
Speaker 3: So now I'm benefiting by watching this.
Speaker 4: I'm watching it on Hulu. My boyfriend's friends Hulu, and
Speaker 4: I guess they have the Showtime kind of add on.
Speaker 4: I don't know who paid for it or when, but
Speaker 4: I'm making use of it.
Speaker 2: Presumably somewhat has that's why the TV industry is doing fine.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, just one person with a subscription to
Speaker 1: every service. Amazing, Andrew, where can people find you? What's
Speaker 1: the workmedia you've been enjoying? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Just yo? Is this racist? Is my podcast? My normal podcast?
Speaker 2: And I also recently, I guess there'll be this episode
Speaker 2: will be the final episode of my friend Cody's and
Speaker 2: I did a mini series for Earwolf Presents called they
Speaker 2: Shouldn't Let Us Name it the name of this but
Speaker 2: it is called do You Understand the Words that Are
Speaker 2: coming out of Our Mouths? A series where we watch
Speaker 2: the rush Hour movies and it was they shouldn't let us,
Speaker 2: they shouldn't let us do that? And in piece of media,
Speaker 2: this is going to be a movie that a friend
Speaker 2: of mine made that is going to be out in
Speaker 2: I believe release State Side. Oh, I want to say
Speaker 2: in December ish at Alamo Draft Houses, I believe, called
Speaker 2: Raging Grace. It won south by Southwest recently and it's
Speaker 2: really good. It's like a kind of a thriller about
Speaker 2: an undocumented Filipina lady in London. That is. You know
Speaker 2: it's an indie, but it is fucking harrowing and pretty
Speaker 2: brad nice.
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien
Speaker 1: uh tweet I've been enjoying. Carter Hampley tweeted, I hate
Speaker 1: how quietly iPhones die at five percent. It should start
Speaker 1: verbally begging for its life. I think that's a good idea.
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