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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three one four,

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Speaker 1: Episode three of Daily Zai I Stay production of iHeartRadio Yop. Yeah, Sure,

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Speaker 1: sure is. This is a podcast where we take a

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Speaker 1: deep avenue American share consciousness. And it is Wednesday, November

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Speaker 1: twenty second, twenty twenty three. My name is Jack O'Brien

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Speaker 1: aka Coming Hop on our pod. Coming Hop on our Pod.

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Speaker 1: We've been waiting for you. We've been waiting for you.

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Speaker 1: Where that takes are all hot and fresh and new

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Speaker 1: Daily's I guess for you. That is courtesy of Eleas

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Speaker 1: with the Hot Takes, who says, because the threes Company

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Speaker 1: team has been stuck in my head for days, she's

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Speaker 1: gonna spread that mind virus to the rest of us. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: thank you at least trade AKA, and I'm thrilled to

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Speaker 1: be joined in our second seat by one of the

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Speaker 1: very faces on Mount Zitemore, a hilarious and brilliant producer

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Speaker 1: and TV writer. You know him from the US this

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Speaker 1: racist podcast.

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Speaker 2: It's Andrew Too and AKA Andrew T. Thousand is the

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Speaker 2: album New Blue Sun. I'm in Atlanta right now, so.

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Speaker 1: On my mind thousand.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't kind of doesn't make sense, but it not

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Speaker 2: really makes a little sense.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I love it. Have you been listening?

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Speaker 2: I did the other night actually, but it.

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Speaker 1: Was love it.

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Speaker 2: It was a it was a very passive listen.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so it's meant to be listened to passively.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just did my second listen today and really loved it.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, these are like getting like.

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Speaker 2: So here's here's the thing with me, is that like

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Speaker 2: I put it on when I was I had some

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Speaker 2: folks over for dinner a couple of days ago, and

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Speaker 2: I put it on. But I I like, you know,

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Speaker 2: and when Spotify got to the end, it just continues

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Speaker 2: playing other flute you know, like like similar music.

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Speaker 1: Yeaeah.

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Speaker 2: So I just didn't realize when it started and when

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Speaker 2: it beges. So I could not tell you if I

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Speaker 2: like it or I liked.

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Speaker 1: Some oh yeah, or you liked some other thing like

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Speaker 1: a middle school flute recital.

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Speaker 2: I liked what the algorithm generated off of it, Like

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Speaker 2: the whole experience over a few hours was very good.

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Speaker 2: So I assume I like it.

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Speaker 1: There you go, well grammatic like, yes, we are thrilled

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Speaker 1: to be joined in our third and fourth see what Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's one of those studios cramped the studio is crammed,

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Speaker 1: it's sweaty. We're all just elbow to elbow in here.

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Speaker 1: They're the hosts of the podcast Celebrity Book Club. There

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Speaker 1: are times when I'm doing research for the guest and

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Speaker 1: I start listening to their podcast or their stand up

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Speaker 1: special and I can't stop. And that's what happened to

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Speaker 1: me this morning. So good news, bad news, good news,

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Speaker 1: great guests, bad news. My takes in the news section

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Speaker 1: are going to be really half baked because I spent

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Speaker 1: the morning listening to their Britney Spears episode. Please welcome

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Speaker 1: Stephen Phillips, Horst and Lily Morano. Hello, what's up, guys?

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Speaker 3: Wow you flatter?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you really do good. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm a listener now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, join the club. Join the hundreds of people who

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Speaker 4: listen to our podcast every week.

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Speaker 1: It's so fun. I learned so much about Brittany. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was just you guys are really fun to listen

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Speaker 1: to talk about Brittany. And I feel like there's always

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Speaker 1: people who read celebrity books and like celebrity autobiographies, like

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Speaker 1: always come away with great stories. So I'm looking forward

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Speaker 1: to kind of digging in.

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Speaker 3: These are the stories we need to tell our grandchildren.

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Speaker 5: That's why we do it, just to you knowing.

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Speaker 4: You know, little giant is gonna be on my knees.

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Speaker 4: We say, Daddy, I guess Granddaddy, tell me more about

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Speaker 4: that best from twenty twenty three, you're like, well, gather

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Speaker 4: around shelter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not always like the big Zeitgeist like

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Speaker 1: your Your most recent episode, I guess is the Nancy Kerrigan.

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Speaker 4: We like to switch it up, you know, when everyone zigs.

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Speaker 4: We liked to zag, but sometimes you have to zig

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Speaker 4: when everyone else is ziggy, and otherwise, you know, what

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 5: She she used to be cut a Zeitgeist person. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'd like to, you know, bring former zeite Geist people back.

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Speaker 4: Into the for a second. Yeah, regeist them, regeist.

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Speaker 1: And the good news is this week the media tries

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Speaker 1: so that people at TMZ can be home with their

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Speaker 1: families or whatever. I do. I do still remember Tiger

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Speaker 1: It was like the first that. Yeah, it was the

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Speaker 5: I think his wife hit him with the car club

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Speaker 3: The golf club because she found out he cheated.

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Speaker 2: And what's lying around the house, like what are you

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Speaker 1: That's just that's what they were eating their Thanksgiving dinner

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Speaker 1: with was just various golf clubs. That's what they use

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Speaker 1: at the table. And then of course the JFK assassination,

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Speaker 1: which was the Tiger Woods getting hit with a golf

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Speaker 1: club of a previous generation. You know, everybody remembers where

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Speaker 1: they were. But all right, well we're going to get

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Speaker 1: to know you guys a little bit better.

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Speaker 4: You know, I will say, my mom's obsessed Tellian this

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Speaker 4: was assassinating she always says, And the nuns wheeled in

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Speaker 1: It was a week so it was the Thursday before Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: But the anniversary is tomorrow, so I guess this is

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Speaker 1: What is time? Really, Dan? And but yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: so Thanksgiving that year was the twenty eighth.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's a late ass thanks Giving.

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Speaker 1: You see what happens when you have a late Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: and you know, I love talking JFK assassination. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: JFK assassination tourism. We might talk about X suing media

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Speaker 1: reporting the facts about how many Nazis there are all

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Speaker 1: of that, plenty more. But before we get to any

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Speaker 1: of it, we do like to ask our guests, Steven Lily,

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Speaker 1: what is something from your search history that's revealing about

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, that's okay, okay, deep.

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Speaker 3: Take me out to dinner first.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how this happened, but it was like

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Speaker 4: and I was like, what's gonna What's gonna calm down

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Speaker 4: I ended up on the Wikipedia page for K two,

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Speaker 4: the second highest mountain in the world. I don't know

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think there's a movie called K two, right.

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Speaker 4: That's I mean, there's a ski brand called K two,

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Speaker 4: So why wouldn't there be a movie. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I hadn't no, I just thought it was a ski brand.

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Speaker 5: I had no idea it was a mountain.

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Speaker 1: Wake Up. My favorite movie Burton. I love that movie.

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Speaker 3: Give my movie a favorite movie, Volcom Burton and Vams.

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Speaker 4: If there was an Oakley movie, I would watch.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, wrapper around shades the film franchise based around

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Speaker 3: Oscar winner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not pure Oscar bait.

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Speaker 4: They could have that scene, do you remember, Lily So

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Speaker 4: not to sort of like plug our podcasts, but when

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Speaker 4: we read Andre Agassi's book, he has a little anecdote

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Speaker 4: shirts where at one point Oakley was one of his

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Speaker 2: They were just like the Oakley of cars.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe they were like designed by the same person.

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Speaker 1: K two The Ultimate High. Oh that's what it says

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Speaker 4: Yeah, anyway, it's the Ultimate High because it's quite dangerous. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: But K two, it's insanely dangerous. Only a hundred people

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Speaker 4: was just reading this harrowing story in Wikipedia. Sometimes the

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Speaker 4: it's written like a really exciting novel or something.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's written by the most pas shit hobbyist on

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Speaker 4: If you're editing a Wikipedia page, you care, you give

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Speaker 4: a shit? Yeah, And so you're seeing that that sort

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Speaker 1: But it was just.

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Speaker 4: Really harrowing and it and you know, there's all these

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Speaker 5: I also make you fall asleep. This would make me

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Speaker 5: like stay up fearing.

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Speaker 1: And here's what was weird?

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Speaker 4: It was just so calming, and maybe it was reading

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Speaker 4: I found it calming, and I wonder if it's reading

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Speaker 4: about cold you know kind of lowers well, well warmon

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Speaker 1: Your whole system. That's great.

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Speaker 1: You got there, dog owner?

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Speaker 2: for some reason. Yeah, I guess I'm compelled to try it.

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Speaker 4: But then aren't you seeing that, Like isn't that like

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Speaker 4: just some sort of viral video that you're seeing that's

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Speaker 4: like a screen grab or something that someone else is

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Speaker 4: posting you're seeing it on Twitter versus like you're seeing

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Speaker 4: a sponsor post for it, because yeah, like that kind

448
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 4: of advertising, you know, it's like, you know, we I

449
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Speaker 4: learn about a lot of television shows and movies that

450
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Speaker 4: people are talking about because people talking about on Twitter

451
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Speaker 4: that you know, that's advertising for Netflix or whatever. It

452
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Speaker 4: is like that's not going to go away, and and

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Speaker 4: I think that's still probably what these companies find most

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Speaker 4: valuable at Twitter versus you know this ad for T

455
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Speaker 4: mobile that no one's clicking on. Well maybe people are,

456
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Speaker 4: and I'm not clicking and I'm just being you know,

457
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Speaker 4: I've got my head in the sand. And it action

458
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Speaker 4: is like a real grandpa.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's buying cell phone service via a sponsored link.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the bigg like propaganda I've seen recently, as I

461
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Speaker 5: was watching a new Lifetime lesbian thriller starring Krashelle of

462
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Speaker 5: selling Sunset and there was like crazy like like Israeli

463
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Speaker 5: army propaganda that was also that. Then right after that

464
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Speaker 5: played a Bounty paper towel ad and I was like,

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Speaker 5: this is kind of what I was not expecting from

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Speaker 5: the ads of a Lante time fan.

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Speaker 4: And not only that, but it worked.

468
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Speaker 2: Joined amazing bounty paper towel, perfect for wiping up.

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Speaker 5: Just anything, anything cleanups, you know, doesn't matter where they

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Speaker 5: came from.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to your point, I've not heard I've not even

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Speaker 1: heard of people really successfully like buying, you know, a

473
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Speaker 1: product being advertised on Twitter and converting into a sale.

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Speaker 1: And yet apples add money alone totaled approximately one hundred

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Speaker 1: million dollars in twenty twenty two. Yeah, which, wow, so

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Speaker 1: that's a lot to be paused to put on pause.

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Speaker 4: They couldn't spend that on like making the phones work better, or.

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Speaker 5: They don't want to make the phones work better. They

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Speaker 5: want us to just keep on buying bad Oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, but that's the kind of advertising, right, That's like,

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Speaker 2: it's not like you're supposed to like see the ad

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Speaker 2: and buy it. You're just supposed to like have this

483
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Speaker 2: pervasive sense that everyone's using an iPhone.

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Speaker 4: You're just supposed to know that Apple it controls your life.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, they're unavoidable. It's just this, Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: I left my overlord.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I guess it makes me think how Steven's

488
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Speaker 5: mother bought an electric Mustang because she hates Elon so much.

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Speaker 4: Oh right, she didn't want to buy a Tesla.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, I mean once you know, he's losing the boomer liberals,

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Speaker 4: he's losing Apples, He's gonna lose it all. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I will say, I don't think Elon ever purchased Twitter

494
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Speaker 4: as like a financial It was always supposed to be

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Speaker 4: like financially unfootable, right, and Twitter has always been like

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Speaker 4: not profitable, right, I mean, I just like the whole

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Speaker 4: point of Twitter is it's like, you know, it's a

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Speaker 4: public forum, it's chalk. It's like it's never ever gonna

499
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Speaker 4: really make anyone a lot of money. And he bought

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Speaker 4: it as a vanity project, and you know, it remains

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Speaker 4: it remains that way, you know, and it.

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Speaker 1: With ridentity project has like turned his brand and all

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Speaker 1: of like so much of his wealth was based on

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Speaker 1: his brand and he's just like fucking turned. It's so

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Speaker 1: toxic and just shit all over it.

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Speaker 5: Right, It's only helped him make him look like a

507
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Speaker 5: nineteen eighties movie creepy computer villain, which is like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was vibe, yeah, but like not that smart.

509
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: Usually they those people were like magic and like smart

510
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 1: and could solve everything with computers, and like he seems

511
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: kind of like a fuck up at this point. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: did you guys even think about covering like, is that

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Speaker 1: this sort of celebrity, Like does he count as a celebrity?

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Speaker 1: Would you cover the Walter Isaacson elon Musk book.

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Speaker 4: Wow, we only we we were a literary criticism pod,

516
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 4: so we and we use books as a way to

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00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 4: talk about the author. So if we did that book,

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Speaker 4: we would if we did an episode on Walter Isaacson,

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00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 4: we might do that book, but we wouldn't do but

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Speaker 4: it would have to be we don't do it. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: So maybe we could maybe do a whole book on,

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Speaker 4: you know, an episode on an Elon tweet or something,

523
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 4: or an Elon tweet thread that could be interesting, that

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Speaker 4: could count.

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Speaker 2: As a book.

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Speaker 3: We could do his deposition.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait because eventually he's gonna have an

528
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Speaker 2: autobiography ghost written and it is going to be the

529
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Speaker 2: most insane thing, so epic.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sorry, what is there a book that you

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Speaker 1: guys reviewed where you were like, holy shit, Like Nancy

532
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Speaker 1: Kerrigan is the great like literary voice of our time

533
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: and we just didn't know we didn't realize it. Or

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Speaker 1: is there somebody who like was just unexpectedly a great

535
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: writer or like just had like really poignant moments.

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Speaker 4: Definitely wasn't Nancy carragrim.

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Speaker 1: I would not have expected that book.

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Speaker 5: I will say, you know, you know, underrated actress but

539
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Speaker 5: a vulnerable great comedian is the actress of Despert Housewives,

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Speaker 5: Terry Hatcher. Her book was so fun so funny, so real,

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Speaker 5: so vulnerable in a way that you know, some celebrities

542
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Speaker 5: aren't ready to write about themselves in that way. So wow, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'm going to give it up to Terry Hatcher.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Terry Hatters was super revealing. I mean, I do

545
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Speaker 4: tend to think some of the better books are just

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Speaker 4: good because they have good ghost writers. Yeah, you know, Andre,

547
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 4: like Andre Agassi's book and Prince Harry's book are both

548
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Speaker 4: goes written by this guy Moranger who's a great writer,

549
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 4: and it's like Prince Harry is a complete unsympathetic character,

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Speaker 4: but the writing.

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Speaker 2: Is it's it's occasionally.

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Speaker 1: Quite gripping, you know, really well done. Yeah. Yeah, did

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Speaker 1: you read the New Yorker article by him about writing

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Speaker 1: the Prince Harry book.

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00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 4: I want to say I did. And then.

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Speaker 2: Well wait at this point, does that mean y'all have

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Speaker 2: like a like a list of your favorite ghost writers?

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Speaker 3: I mean kind of, I guess.

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Speaker 4: I mean the ghostwriter is not that prominent. I mean,

560
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Speaker 4: you know, the whole you know Emphysis on ghost.

561
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: Well, because there's like two schools.

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Speaker 5: There's the memoir that will be like, you know, someone

563
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Speaker 5: with like Louisa farren Son and you're like, Okay, they're

564
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Speaker 5: putting the ghost writer out there, or it will just

565
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Speaker 5: be like Demi Moore.

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Speaker 3: But it turns out that Demi Moore book was by

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Speaker 3: I'm blanking on her.

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Speaker 1: Name, Ariel Levy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Ari, and that book was like so well written.

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Speaker 5: My favorite ghostwriter was we did Demi Levado's mother's memoir

571
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Speaker 5: and hers was ghost written by this woman. And I

572
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Speaker 5: went to her website and like all of her other

573
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Speaker 5: credits were just from like a local interior design magazine

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Speaker 5: in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: Fuck, yes, yeah that's the gig.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she shot for the moon on that one.

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Speaker 3: Never stopped trying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and she was really good.

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Speaker 3: She was no but I just loved her.

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Speaker 1: It's just her friend from the street who was like yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean that book was insane because the whole time

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Speaker 4: you're reading it, you're just like, this is Demi Levado's

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Speaker 4: mom and it's like every page you're like, okay, so

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Speaker 4: you really thought, like like we needed to know this,

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Speaker 4: like what it was like raising the others, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, focuses mainly on that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a there's a whole handful, but.

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Speaker 1: Overall, do you guys have your do you have your

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Speaker 1: favorite just book in general, like the one that you

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Speaker 1: recommend to people when they're like, okay, you're this is

591
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: what your podcast is about, Like, what's the one that

592
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: I should read that? Like nobody?

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00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 4: Well, ideally you would listen to the podcast and then

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Speaker 4: you wouldn't have to read anything.

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Speaker 1: Right there?

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00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 4: You go, hold ong h. You know that's that's what

597
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 4: we really try to impart to our listeners. Stop spending

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Speaker 4: money at Barnes and Noble. Cut up your Barnes and

599
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 4: Noble card. Okay you about to do with interest?

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Speaker 3: Barnes and Noble credit cards are crazy.

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Speaker 4: It's insane. It's like thirty percent. They're Nickel and Diamonio

602
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 4: over them. Barnes and Noble for like Nickel and Dime.

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Speaker 4: It's awful. But I would say I I my favorite

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00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 4: books are. I tend to like either of the ones

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00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 4: that are super sassy and have a ton of like

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Speaker 4: tea and dirt in them. So I always say Janis

607
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 4: Dickinson is a real fun one for that you know

608
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Speaker 4: there's just tons of drugs and sex and celebrity, and

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00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 4: you know she's stealing a car from the pope and

610
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 4: then like fucking Antonio and or like Liam Neeson on

611
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Speaker 4: a beach and she is telling you how big his

612
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Speaker 4: dick is, like that pretty billy run.

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Speaker 1: Oh. She describes it.

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Speaker 4: As an evy on bottle. Wow, which is something I

615
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 4: will never stop thinking about.

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Speaker 2: Like the tear drop one like it maybe it oh wow, No.

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Speaker 1: It's very weird weirdly shaped. Also yeah yeah huge yeah.

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Speaker 4: And then also in that category put Mike Lindell, the

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Speaker 4: My Pillow guy who has a self published memoir which

620
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 4: is just incredible, and it's just again, it's just he's

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Speaker 4: always like blowing in a ball of coke while he's

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Speaker 4: being chased by the cops, and then like almost getting

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Speaker 4: murdered in Mexico before he's down forty thousand dollars in Vegas,

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Speaker 4: and then like like doing crap for a week and

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Speaker 4: after leaving a house, like it's really insane, And that.

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Speaker 5: One feels very un I feel like my favorites are

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Speaker 5: the ones that really both those like don't feel ghost written.

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Speaker 3: It feels like.

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Speaker 5: My favorite scene from a film is the nineteen fifty

630
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Speaker 5: six film on Team Maine with Roslin Russell, and it's

631
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Speaker 5: like about this fabulous woman and she finally like her

632
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Speaker 5: son like hires like a secretary to write her memoirs,

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Speaker 5: and it's just her walking around her huge apartment as

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Speaker 5: like a nerdy woman types and like that is how

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Speaker 5: I feel like my favorite books get written person walking

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Speaker 5: around talking someone.

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Speaker 1: Just like scribbling it down.

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00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right. Like the best celebrity memoirs are essentially

639
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Speaker 2: like the ghostwriters, more of a copy editor slash slight

640
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Speaker 2: organizer of whatever is coming out of their mouth.

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Speaker 1: Who's afraid for their life of the entire time. It's

642
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Speaker 1: like there's some some severe sunset boulevard vibes. Yes, they're

643
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Speaker 1: like this person might kill me at the end of this,

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Speaker 1: and that's how you know it's a good celebrity memoir. Amazing.

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Speaker 4: There's also the ones I'll say where just the person

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Speaker 4: it's themselves is a writer, and so then those are good,

647
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Speaker 4: like Nora Fron or like Tina Brown, where it's just like, oh,

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Speaker 4: they're just like a fabulous New York lady who has

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Speaker 4: like who just has an arch turn of phrase and they're.

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Speaker 1: Right, just been saving up these burns for like forty years, exactly,

651
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Speaker 1: amazing them at cocktail parties. Yeah, now they're.

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Speaker 4: Like, yeah, Tina Brown will just be like Kissinger.

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Speaker 1: Look terrible.

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Speaker 5: She wrote that on a napkin, like you know that

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Speaker 5: she found in like an old desk, and she's like,

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00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 5: exactly right, I forgot about this.

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Speaker 3: Kissinger looked terrible.

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Speaker 1: Kissinger looked terrible. Amazing. Can picture Kissinger in the mirror

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Speaker 1: before he leaves, Yeah, before he leaves, just being like,

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Speaker 1: I look like shit, damn it.

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Speaker 2: Have to go bomb the country now.

662
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 4: They didn't moisturize back then. I don't know real.

663
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come

664
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: back and talk about JFK. Oh great, Okay, we'll be

665
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: right back, and we're back, and today is, of course,

666
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 1: the sixtieth anniversary of the JFK assassination. I'm sure you

667
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: guys knew that you've been preparing, and you have your

668
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: little party schedule.

669
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: I have that you shoot. Actually, I don't know what

670
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: you guys do.

671
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 5: I'm renting a Cadillac tonight to do a drive throughout

672
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 5: my neighborhood.

673
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 3: Steven's gonna shoot.

674
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 4: Me, I'm gonna shoot you. I'm making my famous pillbox

675
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 4: hot pie for Thanksgiving, a.

676
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: Little pink Yeah, I love it. I just sit in

677
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: the upper window and throw firecrackers out of it. So that.

678
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: You know, people get scared.

679
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 5: Thank abertime out JFK just as a masshole. You know,

680
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 5: I could just talk about.

681
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: Love JFKH on President President.

682
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: That's right. So I hear it's not safe in Dallas

683
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: for Catholics according to that old Steady lyric. But yeah,

684
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of events going on in Dallas

685
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: to commemorate it, and they're kind of like, there's so

686
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: the movie theater where Lee Harvey Oswald was captured will

687
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: be playing the actual double feature that was playing when

688
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 1: he snuck into the theater.

689
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 3: Whoa. I'm like literally booking tickets. That sounds so fun.

690
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 2: That's yeah, I've been to that theater before. I really

691
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: was like visiting a friend in Dallas and like we're like,

692
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: fuck it, let's go see a movie. And then she

693
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: was like we like get in. She's like, you know,

694
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 2: this is where Lee Harvey Oswald hung out and we

695
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 2: watched Paris Dispatch and it was only okay.

696
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: Paris Dispatch. I don't even know that one.

697
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: Or is that the the Wes Anderson was it not?

698
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: What's it called?

699
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: Oh the French Dispatch?

700
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 5: French Dispatch, Yes, yeah, specific and that's actually Wes Anderson

701
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 5: films were playing when JFK died.

702
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people don't know that. Yeah,

703
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: but it's I don't know, have you guys ever been

704
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 1: to Dallas? Like have you ever been to Daily Plaza

705
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: or no?

706
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 5: I feel like it's like I have not, yeah, been

707
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 5: to Dallas, But I feel like get growing up in

708
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 5: mass Like you can't you know, turn right left without

709
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 5: some JFK niss you know, thrift stores or you know

710
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 5: people time when he died, or like plates with his

711
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 5: face on it, like it's aft store.

712
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a JFK is deep and the culture.

713
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 5: But I mean he's one of my style, like cons

714
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 5: and I feel like I've always been like obsessed with

715
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 5: like you know him and Sinatra and Marilyn Monroe and

716
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 5: how like but cool guys they all were.

717
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: But what about the death Lily?

718
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 4: Did that fascinates you in the same way? Fast?

719
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 3: Okay, so it's you asked me that, Jack Ruby.

720
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 4: You know, it was quite a tumultuous time for America

721
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 4: in the sixties.

722
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 5: I wanted to This is very me. I was like,

723
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 5: as a kid, like a kind of thirteen year old,

724
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 5: I was like, I want to get into conspiracy JFK

725
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 5: stuff and that that was on my list of to

726
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 5: dos as a teen, but I've never fully kind of

727
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 5: went there, but I was like, this is something I

728
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 5: could have fun with.

729
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: Never too late, that's true.

730
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 3: I think that is more of an older activity.

731
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: Oh, that's yes. And I guess this is like if

732
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: you're going to get into conspiracies, now, this is like

733
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: quaint at this point, right, it's.

734
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 3: Such a retro like, oh, what a cute conspiracy.

735
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, There's so many more places you could go.

736
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: Like Dallas has a weird, weird relationship to it. Like

737
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: I don't know when when Kennedy was like travel to Dallas,

738
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: people were like this is dangerous. People in Dallas fucking

739
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: hate this guy, Like it's he better be careful. Like

740
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: before it was like it was not seen as like

741
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: a safe move. And then like the museum, the person

742
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: who owned the book depository like took the window that

743
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: Lee Harvey Oswald shot him from out of the side

744
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: of repository and put it in his house. Yeah, and

745
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: put it in his house as like a trophy like.

746
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 5: For you know, he didn't install like yeah, just like

747
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 5: on a table window.

748
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 4: Yeah.

749
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 1: I don't know if you older, like how he how

750
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: he had it, but yeah, it was like a thing

751
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: that he was like, yeah, we did it, guys, And

752
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's a good book about the Bush

753
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: family that talks about how like George H. W. Bush

754
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: was in Dallas at the time. It was like one

755
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: of the first people the CIA called, like after he

756
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: was assassinated, but he was not like actually a CIA agent.

757
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 1: He was not like nominally a CIA agent at that time.

758
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: That's the only CIA connection that George H. W. Bush

759
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: had before they made him the head of the CIA. Like,

760
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: so it's like very people were like, wait, why is

761
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: he becoming the head of the CIA? Has nothing to

762
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: do with the CIA? And they're like, nothing that you

763
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: know of to do with the CIA. But he was

764
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: literally the first person we called when Kennedy was assassinated,

765
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: and there's just like all you know, and that's that's

766
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: Bush country down there in Texas.

767
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 4: And so what the theory is that's weird is that

768
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 4: they did that. They called him and they were like

769
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 4: we did it, honey, yeah.

770
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: Like and said way to go, Yeah, nice shot, nice shot,

771
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 1: nice shot.

772
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: Age Like the twentieth century is just some hatfield and

773
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 2: McCoy's ship. And when you go to this level, it's

774
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: just like a family feuds.

775
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: I know.

776
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 5: It's like we don't have no one gets like, you know,

777
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 5: classically assassinated anymore like they used to.

778
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I know. People always say we live

779
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 4: in a crazy time, when it's like, honey, let me

780
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 4: tell you about a little decade called the sixties. Okay,

781
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 4: political leaders are getting assassinated left and right, and and

782
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 4: we miss that, like we missed kidnapping.

783
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: Is that right?

784
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kidnapping. It's you know, everyone's you. It's when

785
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 3: men wore hats to assassinate you know, thank you dressed up.

786
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 4: It wasn't And Jack Ruby wore a hat when he

787
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 4: Shortley Hovels, Well, wasn't it. And now I'm just making

788
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 4: this is a powerphle, but it could be true if

789
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 4: he wasn't.

790
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: Wearing a hat when he assassinated him. He had just

791
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: taken it.

792
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 3: Off because a woman was there.

793
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was just like, please.

794
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:56,479
Speaker 3: Good day to you.

795
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 2: And then under the hat is a little is a

796
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: little gun. Maybe that would be nice.

797
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 4: Hello, I do think that, you know, I guess I

798
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 4: mean the hot shakers. People love celebrity and that's a

799
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 4: famous thing that happens, so they'll be obsessed with it forever.

800
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 4: I mean, how many times was there like a huge

801
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 4: prominent assassination like at a at a public place that

802
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 4: we can all go to, and like like there's that

803
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 4: great Eric Abadoo music video where she's walking naked through

804
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 4: Dallas and she's taking off all her clothes window seats

805
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 4: is the song, and then she gets right to the

806
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 4: point where JFK is assassinated, and she is now completely

807
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 4: nude and her back is facing the camera the whole time.

808
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 4: It's like all one shot. But it's yeah, it's beautiful.

809
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: It is art.

810
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 4: It's art. It just it literally is art.

811
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. The pictures that the families take in a like replica,

812
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: Like there's there's an activity, a family activity you can

813
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: do where you drive around in a linking convertible and

814
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: recreate the final moments of Kennedy's life. And there's like

815
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: all these pictures of like families just like what cheesing,

816
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: like looking back behind like where towards where the shots

817
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: came from, like smiling. There's like one was like a

818
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: five year old girl like sitting in the Kennedy spot.

819
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 6: It's like that I mean, listen, I don't think anyone

820
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 6: should kill any members of their family, but if you're gonna,

821
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 6: this would be one of the funnier ways to have

822
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 6: it hilarious.

823
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 4: You assassinate grandma while she's riding in the back of

824
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 4: this JFK experience, it would be so.

825
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 2: Weird, it'd be so hard to explain to people.

826
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh goody.

827
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 5: It does feel what you were saying, though, very like Dallas,

828
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 5: where I feel like it's much more like a Dallas

829
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 5: to recreate like, yeah, like kind of this crazy cowboy

830
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 5: shoot him up scenario. Where's Massachusetts is just like, let's

831
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 5: praise think of him on a boat. Yeah, No, one's

832
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 5: driving around in that clause.

833
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 4: He wasn't assassinated in Massachusetts.

834
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 5: No, but I'm saying, no one's wanting to kind of

835
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 5: even really at a museum have that experience go on.

836
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 4: No, it does imply us somewhat of a disrespect for

837
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 4: the dead.

838
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, which we do not do in Massachusetts.

839
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I have been.

840
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 4: Do you think in fifty years we'll be doing like

841
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 4: nine to eleven experiences where you can get in a

842
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 4: plane that just does a flyby of ground zero.

843
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: They have an X on the ground where he was

844
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: when he was shot, and tourists like run out to

845
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: the X and like give a little thumbs up while

846
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 1: like standing next to the X and holding up traffic.

847
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: Presumably Oh my god. So that's cool, wow and classy

848
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 1: A good way to classy stuff.

849
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dallas is a weird, weird city. I will I

850
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: will just say the like food was not kind of

851
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 2: as like Texas amazing as I'd hope shot I fired.

852
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: I was.

853
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: I was really hoping for some you know, big I

854
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: don't know, brisket where they're supposed to do down there.

855
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: It was fine, but.

856
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 3: You were un impressed by the VBQ.

857
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 2: I was more impressed by water burger, which admittedly is

858
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: amazing and will fucking kill you so fast. But it

859
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 2: was very good.

860
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 4: Why is that one of those where it's like a

861
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 4: smash burger where it's like flash or is it like

862
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 4: really large?

863
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: It was kind of normal, but it was just like

864
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: so they must put butter on it or something. It's

865
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, just fast food burger. I got

866
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: I ate one in a rental car like one second

867
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: out of the airport, and it was so good.

868
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 5: That's such a beautiful experience. Rental car, Yeah, regional fast food.

869
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: Directly, they're all over the.

870
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: Fucking like steering wheel.

871
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 3: It's not my car, not your car.

872
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: I just for the record, I would also do that

873
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: in my car.

874
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 5: But right you're like, oh, no, my car is a sanctuary.

875
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 4: Your your Olantra is just a greased up hog.

876
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: That's right, That's what I call it.

877
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 5: Well, I wasn't planning a trip to Dallas, but this

878
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 5: honestly sounds kind of insane, so I might now you.

879
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 4: Need to assassination experience.

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Speaker 1: There's like a little cottage industry of like little conspiracy

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Speaker 1: theorists like that. There there are people who want to

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Speaker 1: talk to you about the JFK assassination, just like kind

883
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Speaker 1: of roaming the streets around where it happened. The museum

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Speaker 1: runs a gallery and event space on the seventh floor,

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Speaker 1: but they like try and keep it classy. They're like

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Speaker 1: not available for weddings or bar and bought mitzvah celebrations,

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Speaker 1: and a way not to bring food or drinks downstairs

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Speaker 1: to the assassination exhibition. Sorry.

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Speaker 4: So there's there's like in the sixth floor of the

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Speaker 4: book Depository.

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Speaker 1: Yes, where os Well allegedly shot.

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Speaker 4: From you know, every everybody has a price. I bet

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Speaker 4: for a few mail you could get a wedding in there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like all things, the keys just don't tell

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Speaker 2: them you're having a wedding. Just to do it.

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Speaker 4: Ask for forgiveness, not permission.

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Speaker 3: I'm having.

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Speaker 5: They didn't say retirement party. I'm having a retirement party

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Speaker 5: for JFK was assassinated.

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Speaker 3: I'm already wanting the merch.

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Speaker 5: I rode the car that JFK was assassinated and all

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Speaker 5: was hurt.

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Speaker 1: Like banquet, is it appropriate to be like this is

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Speaker 1: where the shot is asked from? Like I guess like

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Speaker 1: a Republican convention of republican.

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Speaker 2: Thing is probably pretty good down there. I'm surprised they

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Speaker 2: don't have a thing where you can like like target

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Speaker 2: shoot down to the X from the book depository.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh like see if you can get the shot, that.

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Speaker 2: Would be the most Texas thing possible. It's just like

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Speaker 2: here's your gun, here's one bullet. I guess three bullets.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember how many bullets was And it's carnival.

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Speaker 5: They're like three shots for five dollars, three shots for

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Speaker 5: five dollars.

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Speaker 4: JFK like stuff animal.

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Speaker 2: It's it's like it's like a normal if you if

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Speaker 2: you get the shot, you get the like head blown

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Speaker 2: off one and if.

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Speaker 1: You don't, you just get like kind of holding his neck.

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Speaker 2: Like a New World Order pin. I don't remember what

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Speaker 2: they thought was happening. I need to be educated by

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Speaker 2: these people.

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Speaker 4: Years ago, I read the book called Reclaiming History by

924
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Speaker 4: Vincent Bugliosi, who also wrote Helter Skelter about the Manson murders.

925
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Speaker 4: But it's it's a door stoppa. It's an extremely thick tome,

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Speaker 4: but he basically debunks every possible conspiracy theory about the

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Speaker 4: JFK assassination. And it did kind of convince me, and

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Speaker 4: I was kind of like, Okay, well he spent on

929
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Speaker 4: you spent a long time researching this.

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Speaker 2: I guess it was.

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Speaker 4: It was just lee.

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Speaker 2: It would be so boring to write that book if

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Speaker 2: it weren't true, Like imagine making a boring thing that

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Speaker 2: was fake.

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Speaker 1: Come on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: There's a book called Mortal Error, The Shot that Killed

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Speaker 1: JFK by Bonner Manager that I highly recommend. It's the

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Speaker 1: it's the one that I find. It's the conspiracy theory

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Speaker 1: I find most convincing, and it's the one where the

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Speaker 1: first shot came from Oswald and then the second shot

942
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Speaker 1: came from a Secret Service agent freaking out, and like.

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Speaker 5: That's the one in my early research I believed in, Yeah,

944
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Speaker 5: because because you're just like, yeah, I don't know, I mean,

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Speaker 5: Secret Services being shocked up.

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Speaker 4: To human era and incompetence. You know, so many world

947
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Speaker 4: events are just incompetence.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they basically stop. Yeah, it was a big it

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Speaker 1: was a big time whoopsie. But that's why the shots

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Speaker 1: like looked different. The first one just like passed through

951
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Speaker 1: them cleanly because it came from Oswald's gun, and then

952
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Speaker 1: the second one came from like one of these like CIA,

953
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Speaker 1: you know, Secret Service rather like M four teens that

954
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Speaker 1: have like the rounds they're spinning so fast they just

955
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Speaker 1: like destroy whatever they hit so that we play Fortnite.

956
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Speaker 2: We know, we all what you're talking about.

957
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Speaker 1: What happened?

958
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all of duty.

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Speaker 3: Do you guys think you have what it takes to

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Speaker 3: be a Secret Service agent?

961
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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: I get so distracted by boredom, Like I would need

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Speaker 1: to be able to be listening to podcasts, which I

964
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Speaker 1: don't think you're allowed to do.

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Speaker 3: Your pieces always, So I'm sure they would be.

966
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Speaker 1: So mad if they found out I was listening to

967
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Speaker 1: your podcast well protecting the President, and I would like

968
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Speaker 1: laugh and they'd be like, what the fuck is going on?

969
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Speaker 3: I don't know, Biden said something hilarious.

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Speaker 4: And they're just like, I don't know if I buy that, babe.

971
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Speaker 3: Because I think so much of it is waiting around.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in that the main job, according to popular media

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Speaker 2: is getting shot. I guess I could do that.

974
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you think you take a bullet like a you're

975
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Speaker 1: in for that.

976
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Speaker 2: I'm not like enthusiastic about it, but I could do it.

977
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Speaker 4: Something I've never understood about the whole, like, you know,

978
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Speaker 4: hypothetical of taking a bullet for the principle, for the

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Speaker 4: for the person your guardian as I'm kind of like,

980
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Speaker 4: if you have time to jump in front of.

981
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Speaker 1: The bullet, just push him out of the way.

982
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Speaker 4: Do we not have time for yeah, to push him

983
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Speaker 4: out of the way. It just seems like what's going

984
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Speaker 4: on here?

985
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like they want you to take the

986
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Speaker 2: bullet more than like actually doing your job.

987
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Speaker 1: It's a power trip. The president just wants to, like, yeah,

988
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Speaker 1: just to know that somebody is willing to do that

989
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: for him. The presidents are needy, you guys. Yeah, one

990
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: thing that we've all learned. How about you guys, you

991
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: think you'd be able to do it?

992
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Speaker 4: Oh God, now.

993
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Speaker 5: I'm I'm not saying i'd be good at it, but honestly,

994
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Speaker 5: like I think I could just like walk around and

995
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 5: like wear a suit and then like run slowly like

996
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 5: they're always like not keeping up and everything, and like that.

997
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 4: Part you would nail that, like that kind of jog

998
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 4: in a suit and then just stopping, I think, and then.

999
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 3: Like talking to her pairs.

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Speaker 5: I'm being like, Okay, duke is one of our codes,

1001
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 5: will be like duke to the left.

1002
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Speaker 4: That would be fun, Like it was fun when people

1003
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 4: are entering and exiting buildings. That it part is great,

1004
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 4: but all the rest of it is just like yeah,

1005
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Speaker 4: I don't know.

1006
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: Wait, and you're talking about like hearing outside the building,

1007
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: like stick your head out here both ways and then

1008
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Speaker 2: report clear.

1009
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, who's this guy? Who's this guy left? Right?

1010
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, the duke is entering olive garden? You know, Like

1011
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 4: that's fun.

1012
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 2: I think, not that I could do it well, but

1013
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: I could do any job that requires carrying a gun

1014
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 2: as well as most people who do that job because

1015
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 2: they mostly do it incredibly bad.

1016
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Speaker 1: I could definitely do that, Yeah, yeah, because I just wouldn't.

1017
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Speaker 4: Use the gun. So that's I don't agree. But yeah,

1018
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 4: all cops are. They're bad up and like they're all

1019
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 4: like lazy and weird. And I feel like I was

1020
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Speaker 4: at the arcade recently and I I got the top

1021
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 4: score on a shooting game in the whole fuck yeah

1022
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 4: on the machine, like on the machine, And I was like, oh, actually,

1023
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 4: I mean I've been sanely accurate.

1024
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Speaker 2: Yes, shooting touches.

1025
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Speaker 5: Them, like getting prospective CIA members from arcades, they tap you.

1026
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Speaker 5: I could also, you could wear those sunglasses they'd sell

1027
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 5: a party stores that have mirrors on the side.

1028
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: Not the wrap around. Yeah, no, of sunglasses.

1029
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 2: Wrap around Oakley's mirrored Oakley's though, So it's like a

1030
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: three sixty behind your.

1031
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: Head, directly behind you.

1032
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Speaker 4: It's like an ima screen.

1033
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Speaker 2: All right.

1034
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Speaker 1: Well, Steven and Lily, it's been such a pleasure having

1035
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Speaker 1: you guys on the Daily Geist. Where can people find you?

1036
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Speaker 1: Follow you all that good stuff?

1037
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Speaker 5: Oh god, it's been a pleasure to beyond here talking

1038
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Speaker 5: about JFK, my favorite subject.

1039
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Speaker 3: Well, you can follow our podcast and listen to it.

1040
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Speaker 3: On Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Celebrity book Club Stephen and

1041
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Speaker 3: Lily and we're on Instagram at.

1042
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Speaker 4: Where you got your podcast?

1043
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I had with you guys.

1044
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Speaker 4: But yeah, and when you Google, just make sure you

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Speaker 1: There are other celebrity book clubs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those are the bad ones.

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Speaker 2: If you're a Nazi, follow follow them on re access.

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Speaker 1: Please? Is there a work of media that you guys

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Speaker 1: have been enjoying besides your own podcast?

1052
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Speaker 5: I just started this probably doesn't need any more advertisement,

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Speaker 5: but I just started the Nathan Fielder and the Stone Show.

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Speaker 4: I started that. I just I'm obsessed with it. It's

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Speaker 4: so good.

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Speaker 3: It's so good. It's they play like haunted HGTV hosts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how are you guys watching that? Are you like

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Speaker 1: Paramount Plus?

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Speaker 5: Is that? My girlfriend subscribes to Showtime Social Okay, Nixium

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Speaker 3: So now I'm benefiting by watching this.

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Speaker 4: I'm watching it on Hulu. My boyfriend's friends Hulu, and

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Speaker 4: I guess they have the Showtime kind of add on.

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Speaker 4: I don't know who paid for it or when, but

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Speaker 4: I'm making use of it.

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Speaker 2: Presumably somewhat has that's why the TV industry is doing fine.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, just one person with a subscription to

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Speaker 1: every service. Amazing, Andrew, where can people find you? What's

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Speaker 1: the workmedia you've been enjoying? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Just yo? Is this racist? Is my podcast? My normal podcast?

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Speaker 2: And I also recently, I guess there'll be this episode

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Speaker 2: will be the final episode of my friend Cody's and

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Speaker 2: I did a mini series for Earwolf Presents called they

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Speaker 2: Shouldn't Let Us Name it the name of this but

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Speaker 2: it is called do You Understand the Words that Are

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Speaker 2: coming out of Our Mouths? A series where we watch

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Speaker 2: the rush Hour movies and it was they shouldn't let us,

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Speaker 2: they shouldn't let us do that? And in piece of media,

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Speaker 2: this is going to be a movie that a friend

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Speaker 2: of mine made that is going to be out in

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Speaker 2: an undocumented Filipina lady in London. That is. You know

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Speaker 2: it's an indie, but it is fucking harrowing and pretty

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Speaker 2: brad nice.

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Speaker 1: uh tweet I've been enjoying. Carter Hampley tweeted, I hate

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Speaker 1: how quietly iPhones die at five percent. It should start

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Speaker 1: off the information that we talked about in today's episode,

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Speaker 1: as well as a song we think you might enjoy.

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Speaker 1: Super producer Justin is there a song that you think

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Speaker 1: people should go check out? Yeah.

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Speaker 10: If you want to feel like you're drifting away next

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Speaker 10: to an African waterfall while you're cooking your entrees or

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Speaker 10: whipping up them. Size of this holiday season, throw on

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Speaker 10: this track called Blue Nile by Mulatu A stot K,

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Speaker 10: the legendary Ethiopian composer, jazz musician, multi instrumentalist. This also

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Speaker 10: features the Heliocentrics and it's just a really nice, mellow, trippy,

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Speaker 10: fun psychedelic vibe. So yeah, this is Blue Nile by

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Speaker 10: Mulatu A. Stot K and the Heliocentrics. And you can

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Speaker 10: find that song in the footnotes.

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Speaker 1: Good Notes the Daily Zeikeister production by Heart Radio. For

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Speaker 1: Apple podcast or wherever you listen your favorite shows. That

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Speaker 1: is gonna do it for us this morning, back this

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Speaker 1: afternoon to tell you what is trending. We will talk

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Speaker 1: to you all then bite