1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Hi. This is Laura Vandercamp. I'm a mother of five, 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: an author, journalist, and speaker. And this is Sarah Hart Hunger. 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm a mother of three, a practicing physician and blogger. 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: On the side, we are two working parents who love 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: our careers and our families. Welcome to best of both worlds. 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: Here we talk about how real women manage work, family, 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: and time for fun, from figuring out childcare to mapping 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: out long term career goals. We want you to get 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: the most out of life. Welcome to best of both worlds. 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: This is Laura. This is episode two hundred and eighty one, 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: airing just before Christmas in late twenty twenty two. Sarah 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: is going to be interviewing Megan Featherston, who is a 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: great runner and coach and is going to be talking 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: about all things serious athleticism, doing that when you have 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: a full life as well, And we're talking just this 16 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: in general, about how you can make space for serious 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: interests outside of work and family. Speaking of which Sarah 18 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: has a pretty serious interest in running. That's how you 19 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: found Meghan? Right? Yes? I found Meghan via one of 20 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: our Patreon members and also longtime blog reader. I actually 21 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: met her once in person. Her name is Chelsea, So 22 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: thank you Chelsea. That's how I found Megan, And then 23 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: I've since heard Megan on multiple other podcasts and thought 24 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: she'd make a fantastic guest for the show. So, I mean, 25 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: you guys all know I have fallen in and out 26 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: of love with running over the years, but I do 27 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: really enjoy training for races and making running a regular 28 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: part of my life most of the time, sometimes not 29 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: in the hot Florida summer, but certainly the rest of 30 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: the time. And I am definitely currently in a post 31 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: kids running renaissance of sorts, not with my performance that 32 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: I feel like I am starting to see some slow improvement, 33 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: and that's been fun, but it's taken a while, and 34 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: I still find myself comparing myself to thirty year old 35 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: me and being a little bit disappointed that it's things 36 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: to don't come as easily as they did back then. 37 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: Not that I was some sort of elite back then either, 38 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: So it's like going from middle of the pack to 39 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: like farther back in the middle back. But I still 40 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: really really enjoy it. And so yeah, I'm out there 41 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: running usually five to six times per week. I'm planning 42 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: on running the A one a half marathon in February, 43 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: which should have hopefully decent weather. I'm either going to 44 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: do a full marathon in twenty twenty three or at 45 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: least train for one that would be held in the 46 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: winter or spring of twenty twenty four next year. So 47 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: it's a big part of my goals, as we'll talk 48 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: about next week. And yeah, I'm into running these days. 49 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: What about you? Yeah, well, I'm still into running. I'm 50 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: not doing it nearly as seriously as you are, but 51 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: I have been running at least three times a week. 52 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: It's one of my three times a week things. For 53 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: anyone who read Tranquility by Tuesday, one of the rules 54 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: is three times a week as a habit. So my 55 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: goal is just to keep running as a regular. I 56 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: am not currently pursuing any particular speed goals. I generally 57 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: don't run faster than ten minute miles like ever. You know, 58 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: when I run with my friend Jane, we tend to 59 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: do between like ten ten thirties, and she's much faster 60 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: than that, but she's willing to run at that pace. 61 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: For me on my own, it's probably more like eleven 62 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: minute miles, And you know, that's fine. I don't have 63 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: any particular speed aspirations at the moment. However, I recently 64 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: ran a Turkey Trot with Jasper and he enjoyed it, 65 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: and I think would like to run another five k 66 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: in the future, and he perhaps is more interested in 67 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: getting faster, so I might need to do that alongside 68 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: him so that we can keep running together. So that 69 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: would be great. I would be excited about that. I 70 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: don't think I'm ever going to do any more marathons. 71 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: I've sort of reached my piece with that. I had 72 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: it at some point in my thought like oh, and 73 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: in fact, in twenty twenty, I had signed up for 74 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Marathon and then of course it like happen, 75 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: but I don't know it just the sheer length just 76 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: I guess never say never, but I'd probably be like 77 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: fifty five before I felt like my life had calmed 78 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: down enough to go do it. So I'm not sure 79 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: that that's ever going to happen. And that's not to 80 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: say if you have a hectic like that you can't 81 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: train for a marathon. It just might not be a priority, 82 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: and it might not be a bit priority. And that's 83 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: I think what all of This gets at too, because 84 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: I think it would be hard to say, Okay, well, 85 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to have a big career and a family 86 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: and you know, run seriously with all stuff, and I'm 87 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: also going to be in choir and I am going 88 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: to play the piano, and I am going to whatever 89 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: else that have my little adventures, I mean something have 90 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: little less to give me. You can do a lot. 91 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: Making space for all of that might be a little 92 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: bit more complicated, but if you choose one thing that 93 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: you really want to go all in on, you obviously 94 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: really can do that. Yes, as our guests will show. Well, 95 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: one more question before we get into our interview. Do 96 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: you eat before you run? Okay, so I'm not running 97 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: fast enough or long enough that like the fueling matter 98 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: ever comes into this as like a question. I don't 99 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: specifically eat before running to do so. I mean, if 100 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm running in the morning, I will usually eat something 101 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: before I go, like I want, I have like half 102 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: a cup of coffee just to get awake, and then 103 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, something like a pop tart or a 104 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: banana or something like that. Okay, well that counts uh huh, 105 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: because I always run in the morning and I actually 106 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: had been pretty much only drinking black coffee before until 107 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: I started this training cycle and started learning more about 108 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: what our guest talks about. And now I still only 109 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: do coffee if it's like a like a slow four 110 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: mile run or something like that, like a recovery day. 111 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: But if I am running intervals or any length of time, 112 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: I usually drink a sports drink. And I have experiments 113 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: on at least one occasion with Graham crackers. It didn't 114 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,799 Speaker 1: go well the one time I tried it, but Graham 115 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: crackers are so defensive that suggests that maybe eating is 116 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: not going to work for you. I think it was 117 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: just it was a bad workout. I think I I 118 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: pushed myself and it was hot, and I tried a 119 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: little too hard on that particular workout. Like I have 120 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: that I know exactly where I was when I was 121 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: like struggling, so I just don't have that damage. Yep, 122 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: we won't get any more graphic than that, and with 123 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: that we will bring on our wonderful guest, Meghan. All Right, 124 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: I am so excited to have Megan Featherston on the 125 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: show with me. I had heard her on a bunch 126 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: of other podcasts and as we discussed in the intro. 127 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: Laura and I were really trying to find the right 128 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: person to talk about the intersection of career and hobbies, 129 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: but also the pleasure to be found in really delving 130 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: deeply into something that you love, and so I think 131 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: Megan would be perfect to talk about this. Megan, can 132 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: you introduce yourself? Tell us what Featherstone Nutrition is and 133 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: kind of I don't know the story, like how did 134 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: this become your career path? Yeah, oh, thank you, Sarah. 135 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm honored that you thought of me to be a 136 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: part of this passion of hobbies and careers and the 137 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: intersection of it. My name is Megan Featherston, as you've 138 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: had said, and I'm a sports dietitian. I have been 139 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: a registered dietitian for gosh, fourteen or fifteen years now, 140 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: and I've been a registered sports dietitian now for seven 141 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: or eight years. So that was like kind of segued 142 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: part way through my career into more of what I'm 143 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: doing now. But it's kind of funny because as far 144 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: as Featherstone Nutrition goes, like what I'm doing now is 145 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: something that I had dreamed of doing my entire life 146 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: but never really had the courage or even the confidence 147 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: to think that this is where I could have gone. 148 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: So it was always in the back of my head 149 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: that I would love to work with athletes, even since 150 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: I was in grad school. I had a phenomenal sports 151 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: nutrition class and I was like, ah, that would be 152 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: like my ideal population. But at that time they were like, oh, 153 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: you know, like less than point five percent of dieticians 154 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: actually succeed. So I was like, okay, I'll just go 155 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: to the hospital. Interesting, well, for our listeners that aren't 156 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: as familiar with your work as we've got many, like 157 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: non runner listeners, believe it or not, explain what it 158 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: is that you do and how you work with clients, 159 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: And I guess I would be interested like how did 160 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: that grow over time? Because you said you initially started 161 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: in the hospital, so how long was that your career 162 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: path before you ended up kind of moving over sure? 163 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: So right now what I do is I would say 164 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: about ninety five percent of my one on one in 165 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: group clients are runners. I do have some triathletes in 166 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: there as well, and a couple cyclists, but most of 167 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: the people that I work with are runners, and everything 168 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: is done virtually over zoom or group classes, and so 169 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: they live all over the place, all over the world. Truthfully, 170 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: we've had people from Australia, the Netherlands, Germany and some 171 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,599 Speaker 1: of these group classes. It's so fun, so lots of 172 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: different people. But kind of backtracking, when I started in 173 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: the hospital, I come from a medical family, so I 174 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: knew I wanted to do something medical, So it made 175 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: sense that I took nutrition into the hospital for quite 176 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: a few years after grad school, and I really do 177 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: think I learned so much like medical nutrition therapy as 178 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: the basis. That's not what I practice now. I practiced 179 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: nutrition coaching across state lines, but you know, it gave 180 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: me a really solid foundation on nutrition and research and 181 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: applying it to people. So like, I'm very thankful for 182 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: the time that I had in the hospital, but I 183 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: was feeding people through their veins, through tubes and their noses, 184 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: Like that was not me. Like, I've always been very 185 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: wellness focused. So from that clinical position, I hopped into 186 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: working for population health. So I started creating large scale 187 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: educational programs for a very large hospital system for their employees. 188 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: So that's where I really kind of started with the 189 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: group education wellness. I'd have like one hundred people in 190 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: these classrooms with me that I was teaching, and then 191 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: we eventually took it online at the beginning of COVID, 192 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: So I had a lot of experience teaching the wellness 193 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: aspect and in the background, I was running. I was 194 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: running a lot, you know. So I eventually started working 195 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: one on one with runners while I was in clinical 196 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: and then kind of the intersection of COVID, and it 197 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: really took off, Like my personal business just started booming 198 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: enough that I was like, oh, I definitely need to 199 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: walk away from the hospital at this point and do 200 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: this full time. So I've actually only been doing what 201 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: I'm doing now full time for a year and a half. 202 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: Oh that is amazing. I didn't realize the evolution was 203 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: so quick. Yeah, but I think there is something to 204 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: be said when you when you recognize that you have 205 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: a skill set that resonates like that and that people 206 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: want it. I'm not sure everybody would have taken the 207 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: leap like you said it so matter of factly you're like, oh, yes, 208 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: it was time to leave the hospital and do this, 209 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: But that can be really scary. Were there did you 210 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: talk to anyone when you made that decision? Like, how 211 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: did what was your thought process. It was so scary, 212 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: So I guess I should back up to like why 213 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: I even started Featherstone Nutrition. So my kids are five 214 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: and seven, and it was when I was on attorney 215 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: leave with my second with my daughter, so a little 216 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: over five years no, yeah, a little over five years ago. 217 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: She was three weeks old, So you got anyone who 218 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: has kids knows like where your mind's at postpartum. I'd 219 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: had a C section. I was a mess, you know. 220 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 1: And one of my physician friends, who works with a 221 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: lot of runners, he operates on their feet, he'd operated online, 222 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: was like, Megan, you got to start your own business. 223 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: He'd been pestering me for like a year. I need 224 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: to refer people to you. You need to get paid, 225 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: you need to do this. And I finally was like, 226 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: doctor m I am so deep and thick into like, 227 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: I don't even know what to name it. And he 228 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'll name it for you. Featherstone Featherstone Nutrition. 229 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: That's what it's going to be. It's a playoff your 230 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: last name, which confuses a lot of people now, but anyways, 231 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: we're sticking with it. And he literally, with a three 232 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: week old at home, I'm like applying for my LLC 233 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: and like in a Delirium'm like, I can't believe I'm 234 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: doing this, making my own website. But I'm so thankful 235 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: for him pushing me to do it, because I think 236 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: I would have always just been like, it's not the 237 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: right time, it's not the right time, and then it 238 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: never would have gotten to where it is now, you know, 239 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: because you're white. To your question, it's so scary to 240 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: try to do things on your own. Like I am 241 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: not a risk taker at all. I don't gamble like 242 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: I like to play it safe, you know. So my 243 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: hospital gig didn't pay well, but it was safe, you know, 244 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: So it was like easy, it was regular, you knew 245 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: the paycheck was coming, exactly. So interesting exactly, So do 246 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 1: you find that what you're doing now? You know, our 247 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: podcast we have a lot of working parents, and actually 248 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: we tend to be one of the few podcasts where 249 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: like we don't talk about entrepreneurial stuff all that often. Now, 250 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: one of the one of the hosts, Laura, does work 251 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: for herself. But I have always been employed. Now I'm 252 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: part time, so kind of learning. But how have you 253 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: felt like you're parenting, Like do you feel have things 254 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 1: change have Do you feel like you're more available for 255 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: the kise, is it less available because now you have 256 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: pressure and you feel like you have to succeed or 257 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 1: what has that transition been like as a parent as 258 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: well as like as in somebody going from that employee 259 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: position to the working for yourself. I personally, very wholeheartedly 260 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: feel that while the work I call it work burden, 261 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, the things that I 262 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: need to do for my own business are much greater 263 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: than what I would have had to do as an employee. Somewhere. 264 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: It allows me to manage my time so that I 265 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 1: can be more available for my children. I walk them 266 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: down the street to school every morning. That is always 267 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: blocked off on my calendar. I pick them up every 268 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: single day, and I probably have things to do after, 269 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: so sometimes my mom comes down and help. Sometimes I 270 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: put them in front of the TV so I can 271 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: do something I need to do. You know what I mean? 272 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: But I think it has only made me a better 273 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: mom and a better person in general, because I'm so 274 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: much happier doing what I love and I really do. 275 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: I can take time off to be the room mom 276 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: for my mom's class or my daughter's class. I'm like, 277 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: I can't believe I signed up for this to play 278 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: a part, you know. But I couldn't have done that 279 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: if I was still, you know, employee of someone else. 280 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: So I really do feel there's a lot to juggle 281 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: in life right now, but I wouldn't have it any 282 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: other way. Amazing. Well, we're going to take a quick 283 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: break and then pivot into talking more about your running 284 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: and that the role that that I don't even know 285 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: if I it's not a hobby, it's more it's a 286 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: passion plays in your life. So we will be right back. 287 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: All right. I am back with Meghan, and I know 288 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: that she's not going to she's not going to sell 289 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: herself well enough. So let me just preface this section 290 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: by saying, she is a two fifty marathoner. Like she's 291 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: sitting there, she actually has a sign behind hers that 292 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: has her time from the Chicago Marathon, which was two 293 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: fifty forty seven. And that is absolutely astounding. That is 294 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: something that you can just well, first of all, that 295 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: everyone can do, and second of all, that you can 296 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: just casually like, oh, this is my little hobby that 297 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: I do on the side and go you have to 298 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: like put so much time and effort and education and 299 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: everything into it. So, Megan, were you always that kind 300 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: of runner? Did you always have that talent? And like 301 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: when did you decide in adulthood that you were going 302 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: to take it that seriously to reach that kind of 303 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: a level, Because I think it's amazing and inspiring. So 304 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: I want to hear about kind of how that's gone 305 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: for you. No, I was not always a runner. I 306 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: played sports in high school but did not run. I 307 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: did not run in college. I actually started running kind 308 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: of as like a hail Mary pass after grad school 309 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: because I was born I'm very goal oriented. I love 310 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: to be working towards something. I don't ever like to 311 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: feel stagnant, like it's probably a blessing and a curse. 312 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: So when grad school was over, I was like, oh, 313 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: I have a job now, that's all. Like I don't 314 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: have anything. I'm working towards, no goals. So I signed 315 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: up for the Cleveland Marathon with one of my friends 316 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: and he had run it before. So we started training together, 317 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: and my first ever road race was a marathon. Like 318 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: I had never pinned a bib on my chest before that, 319 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: and honestly, like I really enjoyed it because every weekend 320 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: it was like this long run was the longest I've 321 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: ever run, Like it felt like such an amazing sense 322 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: of accomplishment. Plus it made me feel good, like running 323 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: makes me feel good, it makes me happy, it clears 324 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: my mind. I feel like I'm more productive after I 325 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: have run. So I was hooked, but not necessarily hooked 326 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: on the marathon, like I was like, oh God, like 327 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm never doing this again. But sure enough I kept 328 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: doing it and kept doing it and kept doing it, 329 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: and I would say as far as like when did 330 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: I really start taking it sooth? So backing up, my 331 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: first marathon was just under four hours, so very average 332 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: for a first marathon. A lot of people's goal was 333 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: to break four hours right for their first marathon, So 334 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: you know, nothing, It's not like I was like, I 335 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: have to interject here because this is hilarious because my 336 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: first marathon was also the Cleveland Marathon in two thousand 337 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: and five, okay, many years ago, and I ran it 338 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: in like four hours in one minute, and guess what, 339 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 1: I haven't gotten any faster since then. And you ran 340 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: a two fifty, so that's wow, Okay, keep going. Yeah, 341 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: it was two thousand and nine, so a feears still 342 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: a long time ago, but a few years after you. 343 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: So I between kids, I had some foot surgery and 344 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 1: like running was like, oh my god, can I really 345 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: keep chasing goals? At that point, I'd run like a 346 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: three twenty something, but I'd had all this foot surgery 347 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: and I'm like, can I really keep doing this? And 348 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: then I wanted to have kids. So we had kids, 349 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: and I wanted it must getting a little bit older, 350 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: so I wanted to have them like back to back 351 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 1: before I was like advanced maternal age. So I knew 352 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: I wasn't going to get back to marathon between them. 353 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 1: They're not even two years apart. So I kept running, 354 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: but like I told myself, I wasn't allowed to train 355 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: for a marathon until my daughter was one year old, 356 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: so she was sleeping through the night because I knew 357 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: the demands of training for a marathon, and I was like, 358 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: I'm just going to fall apart if I try to 359 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: do it before you know, I'm getting adequate sleep at 360 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: night and not nursing as much. You know, the demands 361 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: on mom is crazy. So my first marathon back after kids, 362 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: I was only running three days a week and I 363 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: out of somewhere pulled off a three ZHO three and 364 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I think I can break three. 365 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: So that was kind of when I was like, all right, 366 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: if I take this. I was serious those three days 367 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: a week, and I cross trained a ton, so it's 368 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: not like that was all I was doing. But I 369 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: thought I couldn't handle anything more with my bad feet, 370 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: so I found a coach and that's when I was like, 371 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: all right, like, let's put my running in the hands 372 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: of someone who knows what to do with it, because 373 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: I really do think I have a chance at breaking three. 374 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: You know, I was just trying to qualify for Boston 375 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: when I ran that, like get back to Boston post kids, 376 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, I think you have new goals, Megan. 377 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: So that's kind of where it's been. Let's see, that 378 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: would have been the fall of twenty eighteen was when 379 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: I ran that. So that's when it kind of got 380 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: a little more serious. But yeah, now we're here, and 381 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: now we're here, and do you find that you were 382 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: like an outlier among friends or among your peers for 383 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: having a hobby that you took that? Can I say 384 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: when I say a hobby not to like discount, but 385 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: I think you've said yourself, like you're not in that 386 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: professional echelon, Like you're not getting money, You're not quite 387 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: at the level where you would be like a professional runner, 388 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: but you're at a level that it takes incredible discipline, 389 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: time energy to maintain. And so is it your partner, Like, 390 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: how did you give yourself permission to like continue taking 391 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: that deep dive into that, because I very much respect that, 392 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: but I feel like it's against the current, especially in 393 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: those of us who have multiple kids, because it's sort 394 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: of like, oh, how dare I, you know, prioritize myself 395 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: this way? Right? And I think that's what it is. 396 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: You're giving givings so much as a working mom. I 397 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: mean I am basically a support person for every client, 398 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: you know, Like I'm constantly giving to other people and 399 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: that's draining. And the only way to be my best 400 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: self is to pursue my passion and to run, like 401 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: that's just what makes me tick, that's what keeps me happy. 402 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: And when I'm injured and can't run, I cycle or 403 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: do something to take care of myself. But I mean 404 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: to be completely trans parent, like I do it before 405 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: my kids are awake in the morning, because exactly like 406 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: you're saying, I won't and I can't make the time 407 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: with the only time I do have with my kids, 408 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: and my workday is full, Like I can't do it 409 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: during the day, you know, when they're at school. So 410 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: I hate getting up in the morning. I love to sleep, 411 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: but I get up five mornings a week at four 412 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: am to be out the door at four forty five 413 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: to be home by six thirty when the kids wake up. 414 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: And every day I'm like, why do I do this again? 415 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: Why do I do this again? It never seems to 416 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: get easy, especially after like Thanksgiving week, when I didn't 417 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: have to get up early. It was really hard this 418 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: week getting back into it, especially as it's getting colder. 419 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: So I guess to answer your question, like, yes, I 420 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: gave myself permission, but also I'm like very much strapping 421 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: myself too. It has to be where the kids wake 422 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: up in the morning, because you need to be with 423 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: your kids when they're awake, Like I have a lot 424 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: of mom guilt about doing it any other way. That 425 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: is so interesting because I had just assumed that since 426 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: you are entrepreneurial, that you could sort of structure your 427 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: times so that you could like leisurely take them to school, 428 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: spend two or three hours training, and then start like 429 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: your nutritious. Maybe that will be your eventual schedule. Maybe someday. 430 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: I am so busy with work, like it's constantly something 431 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: that I like, fold laundry while I'm scarfing lunch down 432 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: for fifteen minutes before I come back to work. So 433 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: it's crazy, but I guess you wouldn't have it any 434 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: other way. And what is it like to have your 435 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: professional and your personal interests aligned so much? Is it fun? 436 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: Does one take away from the other? Do you find 437 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: they kind of feed each other? What is that right? Like? 438 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: Because most of us don't really get to bring our 439 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 1: passions to our work in that way. I love it. 440 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: I still distinctly remember a very prominent adult in my 441 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: life telling me that your profession, your passion should never 442 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 1: overlap when I was younger, that those should never be 443 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: the same thing. They need to be kept completely separate. 444 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: So I still hear that in the back of my 445 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: mind sometimes, but it makes me laugh because I'm like, 446 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: I feel like I am such a better person and employer, 447 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: and you know, to my clients because I can relate 448 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: to what they're doing, Like, I feel like I couldn't 449 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: be as good at what I do if I wasn't 450 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: doing it or hadn't done it right. I'm not saying, 451 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: you know, I used to think when I first got 452 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,719 Speaker 1: into this, in like twenty nineteen, right before COVID, I 453 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: was training for my first sub three and I hurt 454 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: my hip and I was like, I don't even know 455 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: if I'm going to be able to train, I'm gonna 456 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: be able to do this? And I felt slightly inadequate 457 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: or slightly worthless, like how am I going to be 458 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: relevant to my clients if I can't even run? And 459 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: I took a real hard mental toll on me, And 460 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: since then I've been like, man, you can't like your 461 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: worth can never be defined by whether you're running or not, 462 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: or whether you're successful at running or not. It has 463 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: to be completely separate. So those two things colliding were 464 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: hard for me at first. But I think as I've matured, 465 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: I think got a little bit older and had a 466 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: better perspective on life, I've really been able to separate that. 467 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:07,239 Speaker 1: And I think the successes that I have occasionally with running, right, 468 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: they're not all successes. Definitely help and elevate my voice 469 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: in different areas, but they know by no mean define 470 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: the success of what I can do or how I 471 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 1: can help my clients. And it's been really helpful to 472 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: really solidify that perspective, not to mention that you can 473 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: never erase what you've already done. So now the pressure 474 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: is gone. I felt that way when I broke three 475 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: for the first time, but you know, still had to 476 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: chase something. I guess, Oh, I get it. I want 477 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: to give our listeners permission here by having you talk 478 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: a little bit about some of the women that use 479 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: your services, so full disclosure. I think I first heard 480 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: about you from a reader of my blog and a 481 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: listener to our podcast, and I think she now she's 482 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 1: a member of our Patreon who did your coaching program. 483 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: Actually she has sold me like I'm going to be 484 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: your client later next year just wait, because she went 485 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: from like a four hour marathoner so like a three 486 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: thirty marathoner, and like I think of her is like 487 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 1: more of a running peer and like to see her 488 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: have that much success. And I have really enjoyed watching her, 489 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: just enjoy diving so deep into her passion, even though 490 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: it's one hundred percent not her job, and she has 491 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: so many other things going on. So I'm gonna guess 492 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: you have some other runners like this runner, and I 493 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: don't know. I want to hear about some of the 494 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: patterns you see in your clients. What do you think 495 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: they get out of it. I'm looking for the secret 496 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: sauce that gives women the permission to dive into what 497 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: they love even if they're not amazing and they're never 498 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: going to be a professional. And I mean, I've worked 499 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: with a couple professionals, but the meat and potatoes are 500 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: the people I work with, are us, you know what 501 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: I mean. It's just normal, everyday people who want to 502 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: see how good they can get at something while still 503 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: having fun. So my motto is, if it's not fun, 504 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: don't do it. I've been like that since I was 505 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: a child. I think it drives my husband crazy because 506 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: he's like, everything doesn't have to be fun. I'm like, 507 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: it sure does, and it can, you know what I mean. 508 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: So I take that perspective and the people that I 509 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: coach too, like nutrition should be fun, it should be supportive, 510 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: it shouldn't be a star, it should be a stress 511 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: reliever in our lives. And I think so many women 512 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: over the years, I've never met a client that doesn't 513 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: have some wacky nutrition habits or thoughts from just how 514 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: we were all raised, you know, So helping people get 515 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: through that and understand that nutrition can be that support 516 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: and not a stressor and be that missing link. So 517 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: to kind of answer your question, a lot of people 518 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: come to me that have run, maybe they've had a 519 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: coach and they've done a little bit that they can 520 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: do themselves, but they're like, in order to take this 521 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 1: to the next level, I know that I need to 522 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: address my nutrition, right. I mean, when we have a 523 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: running coach, they give us five workouts or five runs 524 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: a week, we eat over five times a day. It 525 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,479 Speaker 1: could have a huge impact if there's things that we 526 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: need to change to be more supportive of our running. 527 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: So a lot of the women I work with are 528 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: in that scenario. They're like, all I eat, but I 529 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: don't think I'm doing what I need to be doing 530 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,239 Speaker 1: to support my tree. And a lot of times, you know, 531 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: a week at a time, we come up with, all, right, 532 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: what's our focus this week? What do we need to do? 533 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 1: I give a plan up front, but I always tell 534 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: people like don't get overwhelmed by this. We're gonna pick 535 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: pieces out that we need to work on and build 536 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: up these skills in these habits and the behaviors and 537 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: figure out what we need to do together. And a 538 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: lot of people I work with during an actual like 539 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: half or full marathon build so that when they have 540 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: that long run, we can start practicing what do we 541 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: do here? What do we do here? So that by 542 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: race day we've practiced car bloating, we've practiced pre race meal, 543 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: we've practiced fueling, recovery. All that stuff is just like 544 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: not a stressor it's just supportive. So I have people 545 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: I work with one on one, and then I have 546 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: people I work with in groups, and I think there's 547 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: different personalities that kind of come into both of those. 548 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: Some people really like that group support. Like we had 549 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: a fall marathon group with most of them ran like 550 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: New York City or some of the later fall marathons, 551 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: and they started their own WhatsApp or whatever like group 552 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: because they all just want to stay friends and supportive. 553 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: So like I was able to help them with their nutrition, 554 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: but they were able to make this group of friends 555 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: that all these women are continuing to support each it's amazing, 556 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: Like it's so much fun to connect this all and 557 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: see it all work. So, like I said, I'll have 558 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: people that are trying to break you know, two forty 559 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: five or OTQ, and then I have women who are 560 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: trying to break four thirty, you know, and all those 561 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: people are in the same group getting along helping each other. 562 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: Is really cool to see. Ah See, that's what I love. 563 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: I love the idea that women can bond over this, 564 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: can work hard at this at any level, and find 565 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: that community. And I'm sure that community piece is part 566 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: of what many women, including myself, get out of running, 567 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: Like it's fun to talk about running, it's fun to 568 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: go running with other people, it's fun to have these 569 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: shared experiences, and it is you know, certainly this is 570 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: just one of many passions that one could have in 571 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: their life, but it's a great example of, like, you know, 572 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 1: something that can serve you on so many friends, not 573 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: just the physical right, And I think social media things 574 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: like your blog and podcasts and have really elevated this community. 575 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,479 Speaker 1: Feel like when I started writing in two thousand and nine, 576 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: my friends thought I was crazy. My mom asked me 577 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: to never do this again. When I crossed that first 578 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: finish line, no one understood what I was getting into, 579 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: No one right, and so it did feel kind of 580 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: alone sometimes. But now like, there are so many different 581 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: ways that you can connect with people to feel supported, 582 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: to get the information you need. That it's pretty cool. 583 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: I love it. Well, what is next for you professionally? 584 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: Any exciting? Like you've built this business pretty quickly, and 585 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: I think the demand continues to be there, so we 586 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: can to expect anything new. Are you just going to 587 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: kind of build on what you currently have? Yeah, there's 588 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: always new things coming. I don't sit stagnant very well. 589 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: In fact, after like not focusing on work for like 590 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: two or three days over Thanksgiving Sunday, I sat down 591 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: and wrote out a whole new program that I'm going 592 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: to launch in January. So it's like here we go. 593 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: So I have one employee. It is my best friend 594 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: from college I met in nutrition school. We work phenomenally together. 595 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: We've been friends forever. So I put a lot of 596 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: the programming together. I do all of the nutrition education, 597 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: but she's kind of the background person that I'm like, hey, 598 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: I got this idea. She's going to make it work electronically, 599 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: you know. So we're a really good pair to be 600 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: able to pull things off like that in a month. 601 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: So We've got all sorts of things that we're working on, 602 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: you know, for next year. And then I've made a 603 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: lot of great contacts in the running sphere, if you will. 604 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of different things that are like 605 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: on the pipes but not signed on the line yet 606 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: of some really cool opportunities that involve some travel and things. 607 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: So it's never a dull moment. I think sometimes I 608 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: get nervous, like you know, over Thanksgiving, like oh, what 609 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: am I going to do next? And I like create 610 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: some program. But for the most part, it's just keeps thriving, 611 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: and I think at some point it could take a 612 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: whole turn, who knows, you know. But I'm open to 613 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: whatever feels right in that moment and following it and 614 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: kind of seeing where this all goes. I love it. Well, 615 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: I'm super excited to see what you do next. I'm 616 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: telling you I will be a client in twenty twenty three. 617 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: Not that this is a nutrition episode, but just to 618 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: give our listeners a tiny taste, not to use that pun, 619 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: but I just did. Sorry. We're not going to talk 620 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: too much about Graham crackers. But what is it about 621 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: the Graham crackers number one and number two? If you 622 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: had to say the number one mistake you see female 623 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: distance runners making, what would it be so the Graham crackers. 624 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: I wish there was some like crazy jazzy story about this, 625 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: but I think it goes back to I hate getting 626 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: up in the morning. The only way I get up 627 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: is if I have a cup of coffee. And you know, 628 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: I preached making sure we are always eating before it 629 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: runs as women like it's terrible for our hormones to 630 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: be working out fasted, whether we're running or whatever we're doing. 631 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I used to look for it. I 632 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: love Graham crackers Like it was one of those foods 633 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: when I was doing dumb stuff with my nutrition that 634 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: I would eat like a whole box because I hadn't 635 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: eaten enough to it. You know, It's one of those 636 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: foods that I always just loved so much, and you know, 637 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: looking at the nutrition, it's perfect for pre run. So 638 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: I would get me out of bed in the morning, like, 639 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: go get your coffee and your gram crackers and you 640 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: can go run. So it was like exciting everybody to 641 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: get Graham crack and then they just sit so well 642 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: in your stomach you can eat them really quickly and 643 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: just run out the door, because no one wants to 644 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: get up an extra hour early to digest a bagel 645 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: in peanut butter or oatmeal or you know, like, we 646 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: don't have time for that. So the timing of it, 647 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: the taste of it, and the fact that it works 648 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: after I was doing it so long, and then clearly 649 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: it works because lots of people are doing it now 650 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: and love it too. So that's where the Graham crackers 651 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: came from. And then the number one mistake I knew 652 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: there was a second part of that question. The number 653 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: one mistake I see people making, honestly, is having those 654 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: preconceived notions about nutrition from their past, keeping them from 655 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: doing the things that maybe they've heard they should do 656 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: or they know they should do, but just having these 657 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: deeply ingrained habits and maybe a little bit of fear 658 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: behind it of changing. Like a lot of times I 659 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: see women their nutrition escalates throughout the day, Like in 660 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: the morning it's like, oh, I don't want to eat 661 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: too much, Like I don't want to eat too much today, 662 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: so eat these little tiny meals and we run in 663 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: the morning, So by four o'clock, I would say, our 664 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: appetite like crescendos as the day goes on, and then 665 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: all of a sudden we're like face planning and every 666 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: snack we can find and overeating. And then the cycle 667 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: repeats because we wake up, we feel sick, we're full, 668 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: we feel guilty that we eat so much crap the 669 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: night before, and it's like this perpetual thing, right, So 670 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,239 Speaker 1: like disassociating from some of those old behaviors and being like, no, 671 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: if I feel more in the morning around my runs, 672 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: I actually my appetite kind of peters out towards dinner 673 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: and I'm just like eh to the snacks that my 674 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: kids are eating, and I can just be like, no thanks, 675 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to have balanced dinner rather than testing willpower 676 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: all the time. So, and I think a lot of 677 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: that is just ingrained and the diet culture. There's so 678 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: many of us were raised amongst so I would say 679 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: that's probably one of the biggest things. I love it. 680 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: And then you get more energy for your run too, 681 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: which you know, we all know that is what you want. 682 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Well, this has been so much fun. 683 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: It's been a joy to talk to you. I have 684 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: no doubt there are you. Know, again, this is not 685 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: a show for runners, but there are many runners who 686 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: listen to this show, so I would not be surprised 687 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: if people are banging down your door to join groups 688 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: from this episode, et cetera. So where can everybody find you? 689 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: So I have a website It's just Featherstone Nutrition dot com, 690 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: and then on Instagram It's Featherstone Nutrition. We've got two 691 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: groups starting at the beginning of February for Boston and 692 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: then for any any spring race half or full. And 693 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: then I have a wait list for one on one, 694 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: but you're more than willing to all get on it 695 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: if you're interested. And then I also do something I 696 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: call it crunch time, so like if you just have questions, 697 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: like you don't need the full coaching, I help people 698 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: set up like rice plans and answer questions and look 699 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: over lab work that kind of stuff. So we've got options. Amazing. Well, 700 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on. Thanks for having 701 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,719 Speaker 1: me all right, we were back. That was such a 702 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: fun interview to do. I really enjoyed talking with Megan 703 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: and hopefully we'll enjoy being her customer in the coming 704 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: months next year. So for our question. A common question 705 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: that we've gotten before is how do you fit in 706 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: exercise when your kids are home? For example, many of 707 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: us have a fairly long stretch coming up if you're 708 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: in the US for winter break, and many of us 709 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: have kids that are off for like two weeks. So 710 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: any tips for getting your workouts in or not getting 711 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: your workouts in during that time? Laura, Yeah, well, I 712 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: think you definitely can have the ladder as an option, 713 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: like not getting full formal workouts in if you could, 714 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: you come up with active stuff to do with your kids. 715 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: For instance, you know, pushing a baby and a stroller 716 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: is absolutely exercise. Going for a walk with your kids 717 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: is exercise. Playing tag in the backyard is exercise. Like 718 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: you don't have to, you know, be in workout clothes 719 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: and maintaining a certain heart rate and doing things that 720 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: look like exercise in order for it to count as 721 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: physical activity. So I would put that out there as 722 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: a possibility. I know in situations like this, I often 723 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: want to go run just for my sheer mental health 724 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,479 Speaker 1: if the kids are around for long periods of time, 725 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: just getting some solo time. So if obviously it depends 726 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: how old your kids are at this point, I can leave, 727 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: you know, the little ones with the older ones for 728 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: thirty forty minutes, so I could go for a run. 729 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: So that's no longer as much of an issue for me, 730 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: But in the past it was definitely a question of like, okay, 731 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: when is Michael also off work. If it's a day 732 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: that he is working and I have the kids, we 733 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: don't have childcare for that day, I would either try 734 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: to do it early or get him to nail down 735 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: when he would be home at night, and then go 736 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: do it at that point. You know, there's also nap time, 737 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 1: like if you have a treadmill, I would often do 738 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: you know, whenever the baby was napping, maybe in the afternoon, 739 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: you know, between one and three, Like go work out 740 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: on the treadmill is like the first thing I planned 741 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: to do when that break occurred. And then say, you know, 742 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: it probably might not happen every day, but again, if 743 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: you aim for a three times a week, that's good. 744 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: And you know, if you have friends who are in 745 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: the same situation, you might swap with each other, right, 746 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 1: Like if you have anyone neighbor or friend who also 747 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: the kids are off school for a while, you could 748 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: certainly you know, send the kids over there for an 749 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: hour so you can go do something, and then you 750 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: take their kids over at your house for an hour. Yeah, 751 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,760 Speaker 1: so other things to think about. Some gyms have childcare, 752 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: and even if that's not something you do most of 753 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: the time, it doesn't mean you can't take advantage every 754 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: once in a while. So that's one option. Communicating with 755 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,760 Speaker 1: your partners. So currently Josh and I are both training 756 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 1: for stuff, so I think we both care about getting 757 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: certain workouts in certain days. So I am going to 758 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: make him sit down with me so we can talk 759 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: about like who's going to run first which days and 760 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 1: kind of come up with a plan. And then you know, 761 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 1: making use of screen time as workout time. No shame 762 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: in that. Sometimes. I'm sure I will do some strength 763 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: workouts while my kids are on their various devices in 764 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: the afternoons. And also bringing in what you said at first. 765 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,760 Speaker 1: When we're on our ski trip, I'm planning zero workouts 766 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 1: because skiing is enough of a workout and I would 767 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: just rather go in knowing that it's a planned rest 768 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: period than have some crazy idea that I was going 769 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: to get significant mileagen. So I'm just going to look 770 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: forward to it as six days of not working out 771 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: other than skiing down the slopes, which, yeah, skiing can 772 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: definitely be athletic. You'll be getting lots of steps in, 773 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: as it were, by by doing that, and lots of 774 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: lots of like whatever the muscles you use when you 775 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 1: fall and get up again, I'll be using those a lot, yes, 776 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: and lifting those heavy boots, oh my ashes, like the 777 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: ankle strength workout. It's going to be something, all right. Well, 778 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: this has been best of both worlds. Sarah was interviewing 779 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: Megan Featherston and we will be back next week with 780 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:45,280 Speaker 1: more on making work and life fit together. Thanks for listening. 781 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: You can find me Sarah at the shoebox dot com 782 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: or at the Underscore shoe Box on Instagram, and you 783 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: can find me Laura at Laura vandercam dot com. This 784 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 1: has been the best of both worlds podcasts. Please join 785 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,720 Speaker 1: us next time for more on making work and life 786 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: work together.