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Speaker 1: dot com. Wednesday, in Indianapolis at the NFL Combine, Amy

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Speaker 1: Wells is here, Coach Dave McGinnis is here. Rhett Bryan

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Speaker 1: is here. I'm Mike Keith. We're glad to have you

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Speaker 1: with us. And it's heating up. It is heating up.

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Speaker 1: But Amy just made the comment there seems to be

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Speaker 1: a lot more activity in here today and that's to

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Speaker 1: be expected because Thursdays when they get on the field.

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Speaker 1: But last night it started to move around. Interviews are

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Speaker 1: going on. But as the week progresses, it will start

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Speaker 1: to pick up and then it will decidedly slow down.

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Speaker 1: In the last day, a lot of people will vacate.

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Speaker 1: Other than and that's just the way it is. Yes,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people will vacate, But right now we're

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Speaker 1: we're in the middle of the storm now. Rhet Brian

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Speaker 1: ran Carthon spoke at the podium yesterday. He also spoke

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Speaker 1: to us on the OTP grades for him overall just

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Speaker 1: outstanding and talking to people with how he sort of

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Speaker 1: think the line I liked the most is that he said,

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Speaker 1: we're not going to discuss contract negotiations publicly. You know

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Speaker 1: this is something this is not how this works. Um.

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Speaker 1: He did talk about Ryan Tannehill, gave him a vote

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Speaker 1: I think he did really well. What jumped out to

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Speaker 1: you Amy about the Tannehill comments from ran Carthon that

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Speaker 1: they were noncommittal in in a lot of different ways.

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Speaker 1: So on one hand, obviously he was one percent correct.

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Speaker 1: He is under contract for the Tennesseeans. He is our

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Speaker 1: quarterback as it stands right now. I think that he

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Speaker 1: said a lot of great things about what he has

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Speaker 1: his talent level, his level of trust in Ryan Tannehill,

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Speaker 1: also didn't say anything definitive, and that's the thing that

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Speaker 1: Tannehill is the guy forever. That's not really what he said.

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Speaker 1: What he talked about was very cut and dry. This

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Speaker 1: is the reality of the situation. We're excited that that

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Speaker 1: is the reality of the situation. He in no way

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Speaker 1: said anything disparaging about Ryan Tanner A vote of confidence

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Speaker 1: one percent, And I don't think that there's anybody who

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Speaker 1: has been around Bryan Tannehill who would say anything disparaging

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Speaker 1: the expectation that most people have is that that's what's

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. But Dave McGinnis, he left the door open,

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Speaker 1: and he's left the door open on several things because

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Speaker 1: lot of maturity about Rancarthon is he doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: back himself in a corner. Mike, You're so right. He

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Speaker 1: just handled it very, very professionally. Amy put it exactly right.

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Speaker 1: We've heard him say it a couple different times now,

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Speaker 1: says that we are not collectors of talent. We are

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Speaker 1: building a football team. And that brings me so much

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Speaker 1: Here's Mike Vrabel with us from Indy on the OTP. Mike,

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Speaker 1: at the place that they've been for a few years.

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00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 1: The mix on that offensive staff really interesting. Yeah, I

431
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: mean a totally different I mean, I'm sure they everybody

432
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: looks at football slightly differently, but that group, it would

433
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: feel like with Tim Kelly leading it, with Justin with Charles,

434
00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 1: with Jason taking over the offensive line, Tony moving to

435
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: tight ends, and then keeping Rob Moore where he was.

436
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it's an impressive group, and well

437
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: it's only it's only as impressive as as what they

438
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: can can teach and reasonably get the players to understand

439
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 1: and execute that. That's the most important thing. And um,

440
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: I think and obviously I did it for a reason,

441
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 1: and so hopefully that that comes true, uh, and that

442
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,719
Speaker 1: they are able to add their ideas together. Uh, Tim's

443
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: able to coordinate it, and everybody's able to have their

444
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: their ideas and thoughts and vision heard and then ultimately

445
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 1: go in a direction in which everybody is on the

446
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: same page. Good stuff, as always had got about it.

447
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: That's head coach Mike Rabel, who was extremely relax. Oh yeah,

448
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 1: he was chill, calm as a cucumber. Especially for him, well,

449
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 1: and especially for him interacting with you. You tend to

450
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: make him feisty, and he was. You make him feisty, Mike,

451
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: and he was just cool and very informative. Well, let

452
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: me say this. I was on this side of the

453
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: table with him, and I thought he was gonna twirl

454
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 1: this table skirt into a ball of something that looks

455
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: like a tornado trap. Here's fidgetygety, And he fidgeted with

456
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 1: this very headset I'm on and the wires and so yes,

457
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 1: he is. He was calmed to a degree, but he

458
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: I would describe him as fidgety. That's the teeth effect.

459
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 1: He No, he's he's an intense dude, He absolutely is.

460
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean, and the intensity never turns off. Fully, can't

461
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 1: turn it off because that's who he is, right. I

462
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 1: worked for a head coach like that when I first

463
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 1: came into this league. I just you know that, because

464
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: that's who makes them who they are. You're talking about,

465
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: Mike Ditka. You think Vrabell remind you in some ways

466
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: of Didca similar in all the positive ways and some

467
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 1: of the ways that you know you've got to You've

468
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,959
Speaker 1: got to be able to deal with it and know

469
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: that it's coming from a place of this is the

470
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: dudes you want leading us, That's where it comes from.

471
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 1: But what you said it was so true, Mike. You

472
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: can't turn it off. You can't turn it off, and

473
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: especially in this type of environment. We talked about how

474
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: rand was, you know, how he his first time out.

475
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: He was he was he was very cool, you know,

476
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: he was very measured, you know, with what he's done.

477
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: Mike Rabel's done this before, and Mike Rabel knows the

478
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: sense of urgency as to where we are and they

479
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: both do and so but Mike Rabel's going to be

480
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel. You've led us brilliantly into our next point,

481
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 1: which is this is great This is fantastic how you're

482
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: doing this just perfectly. The Chicago Bears are running this deal.

483
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: Every year there's a team that's basically running the draft. Generally,

484
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: it's not the team from the number one pick position.

485
00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: For example, two years ago, everybody knew Jacksonville was selecting

486
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence number one, and so they weren't running the deal.

487
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: It was it was a group of teams down the line,

488
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: who's going to trade who Jacksonville wasn't trading. Now they

489
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: could say whatever they want. They were taking Trevor Lawrence.

490
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: That was it. Chicago has the number one pick in

491
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: the draft for the first time in seventy six years

492
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: since Farm Bureau Health Plans was formed in nineteen There

493
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: it is. It all comes together a sponsor thing. But

494
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: this is so new for the Bears, a team that's

495
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: seen everything over a hundred years and has never in

496
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: modern history seen this unbelievable. And I think that's what's

497
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: exciting for them at this moment because they hold tons

498
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: of cards. Coachmac hold all the cards. They hold all

499
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: of the cards right now, and they're fortunate that they've

500
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: got a quarterback that they believe in. Yes, and so

501
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: now it's wide open to them, and there are the

502
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: smaller number of available quarterbacks at the top of this

503
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: draft plays right into their hands also because now you've

504
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: got a number of people going down through probably number nine,

505
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: maybe through fourteen that would be willing to come up

506
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: that need a quarterback as to you know, whoever they

507
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: decide they like the best at a number one. They

508
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: are sitting in the catbird seat, they are, and the

509
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: where their football team is now, Mike. They need more picks.

510
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: They need more picks because they've got a quarterback that

511
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: they believe that they can build around, but he needs

512
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: dudes around him right now. And now now is a

513
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: time this is a very vital draft for the Bears

514
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: because they've hit kind of a drought, you know, I

515
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: mean there were three and fourteen that to me, I

516
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: still can't equate that in my mind with the Chicago

517
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: Bears that I was involved with, I mean, three and fourteen.

518
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,479
Speaker 1: But they've got a chance to dig out of it

519
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: just because of what you said. The name that I

520
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: select is Jeff Joniac, who is the longtime voice of

521
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. He is a friend, he is somebody

522
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: admire a great deal and He is a tremendous announcer

523
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: who has all the insights on his club, and he

524
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: joined us on the OTP to talk about the team

525
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: running the show in this draft, the Chicago Bears. Jeff Joniac,

526
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: longtime voice of the Chicago Bears, thank you for joining us.

527
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: You're sitting next to coach Max, so I certainly am

528
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: in good hands. Liam of Mac always have well speak

529
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: speaks the truth. Oh yeah, he's got a replication. Chicago

530
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: was a pretty big part of my career and start

531
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: of it. And you know, I remember when you're a

532
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: head coach in Arizona and we're on the field as

533
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: preseason Tom Tharre, my broadcast partner, and you say, hey,

534
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: you guys, get over. I got to introduce you to

535
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: somebody is a special, special guy, special guy. Do you

536
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: know how it was? Who's that me? No? Uh? One

537
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: of our nation's type of warriors. Oh, Pat Tillman. Yes,

538
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: and I and that's the first time and he ran over, Yes, sir, Hello.

539
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: I mean you could just feel his presence. Jeff was

540
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: something all four of us could do five days on

541
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: Pat Tillman and I'd never get tired of talking about him.

542
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: If all the players I've been involved with in my career,

543
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: which you know, over thirty years coaching and then doing

544
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: this now. Pat Tillman has had more impact on my

545
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: life than anybody else, you know, for a lot of clarity,

546
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: a lot of reasons. And he drew people to him

547
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: like that because it was a it was a it

548
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: was a really really unique situation and a unique man,

549
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: just a unique man, really was. And the level of

550
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: the level of pride and what he did, but the

551
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: level of sadness and the way it happened, you know,

552
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: both of those things, Uh, take it to another place.

553
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: But Tilly and his whole family will be a big

554
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: part of me for a long time. It's an impactful dude,

555
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: that's for sure. Yeah, you've had a chance to run

556
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: into a lot of them through the course of your career. Coachmacket, you,

557
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: Jeff being in Chicago for a long time covering the

558
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: team and then now becoming the play by play voice

559
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: for over twenty years. Yeah, it's still being number twenty three.

560
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: That's twenty seven with the team pre and post before that.

561
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a Now that's a career, I guess

562
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: right right now, I made it that far. So it's

563
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: been less great place. Franchise is treating me great, the

564
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: McCaskey family and everybody that's come through over the years,

565
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: and there have been a lot of people that have

566
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: come through over the years, but there's just something special

567
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: about the Charter franchise. With all due respect to the

568
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: other thirty one, it's just it is different. And right now,

569
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: the cities I told them, you know, all gas no

570
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: breaks right now because of what the situation has unfolded

571
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: in terms of the draft and free agency to come. Yeah,

572
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: I want to ask how unusual is that? How unusual

573
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: a feeling is it for you approaching this draft with

574
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: the number one pick. I've never seen it. It's happened

575
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: in nineteen forty seven. I think that's about it for

576
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: this franchise. And you know, unless you traded for it,

577
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: you know, you realize, well, that's because you were at

578
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: the bottom of the barrel in twenty twenty two. And

579
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: I just told coach here three and fourteen didn't feel

580
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: like it. Last year. It just was exciting. Games were fun,

581
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: they were close for the most part. You were in

582
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: it until the fourth quarter. They just didn't close. And

583
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: you get this argument in Chicago from different talk show

584
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: hosts and experts, But I do really feel you have

585
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: to learn how to win. And other people say, well,

586
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: players get that done, but you still have to You

587
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: could have an all star lineup, which the Bears had

588
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: at one point several times and didn't win. They didn't

589
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: get to the playoffs. So I still feel you have

590
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: to learn how to win. It was a super young

591
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: team well, and you have a young staff leading the

592
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: charge as well, new coach, young GM So there's a

593
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: lot contributing to that excitement, I'm sure, just because because

594
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: there's so many possibilities for this team. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah,

595
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: you just nailed it. I asked Ryan Poles yesterday when

596
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: he met with Chicago media. I said, could you have

597
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: too many scenarios? And he laughed. He goes, no, we

598
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: can have enough, you know, And but you maybe you know,

599
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: you don't want to overthink everything because everything's at your feet.

600
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got draft assets, you got major capital

601
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: right now. You got a young team that played so

602
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: many rookies. They outdistanced the pack by over a thousand snaps.

603
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: But they didn't play poorly. They individually, there's a lot

604
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: of guys undrafteds or late rounders, guys they picked up

605
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: from other teams that now could form part of your depth.

606
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: They may not be starters, but now you you may

607
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,479
Speaker 1: have played twenty twenty two for depth, and now you're

608
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: going to bring into horses. So it'll be interesting. Well

609
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: here's the here's the thing about Chicago. Of course they've

610
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: gone through over a hundred years of so many different iterations,

611
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: but the fans have always stayed there. Yeah, they're always there,

612
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: and it you know, it was my first experience in

613
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: the National Football League and people ask me a lot,

614
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: you know about how was that starting with that group,

615
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: you know, that whole Super Bowl shuffle group and that

616
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: I said it was football camelot because you really, I mean,

617
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: the city just embraces it. I mean, it's it's it's

618
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: more than a team. It's a it's the city. And

619
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: that's what makes it go because even you know, and

620
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, that group were just starting when we were there,

621
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: and they would come watch the Bears because the Bears

622
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: were the thing. But it's it's a it's a Bears

623
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: and it's a Cubs down. Yeah, yeah, I mean, and

624
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: that's just the way it is. It is, and it

625
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: goes through you know, different generations. You know, Mike, you

626
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: know your wife's from Chicago. We got a Chicago a

627
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: Bear fan over here. Maybe I don't, I don't know,

628
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: I know, but you know, it's it's deeply rooted. But anyway,

629
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: I'm not naming names, but um, it's just you do,

630
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: you do things, events and whatever. Hey, my dad took

631
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: me to my first game and nineteen sixty nine. Have

632
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: been a fan ever since. The new wave. Like people

633
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: that I'm meeting, the young people, they you know, they're

634
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: not quite ready to start buying tickets yet, they're not

635
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: rich enough to do that, but they're they're there many.

636
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: I love that. And that's the unique thing about these

637
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: types of franchises. That's it's it's passion that is generically

638
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty nine, we're in the Bobby Douglass sort of

639
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: period of exciting quarterbacks. Absolutely, and now you have Justin Fields.

640
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 1: Were you surprised? Relieved? Um? Please that Ryan Poles said

641
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Speaker 1: yesterday that he's going to be the quarterback, that Justin

642
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: Fields is going to be his quarterback in twenty twenty three.

643
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: What the Dentamy's still gonna do is due diligence in it,

644
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 1: which I I don't want people thinking, oh my gosh,

645
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: what's going on here. I think that's the proper thing

646
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: to do as a general managers. Uh four or five

647
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: years from now, you may be talking to some of

648
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: those guys for different reasons, you know. Uh no, uh,

649
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: justin I think if he would be not in the equation,

650
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 1: the city might go crazy because he's the top athlete

651
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: in the city right now. Wow, Yeah, I mean he is.

652
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: He's the most discussed. Everybody loves him, and there's still

653
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: work to be done. Obviously, dynamic runner, still developing as

654
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: a passer, and I just think one of the biggest

655
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: stories of the offseason when this league has sixteen new

656
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: offensive coordinators, I think one left to be filled. That

657
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: tells you a lot. Luke Getzi's staying in Chicago for

658
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: a second year to be in the same system. To me,

659
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: that's one of the bigger offseason stories just having the

660
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 1: same scheme for a developing quarterback. I think you guys

661
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: all would agree, well, especially in this era of the

662
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: National Football League, when things flip so so quickly. You know,

663
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: when I first got into the league, there there was

664
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: no free agency and no salary cap. So we grew

665
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: up with all of those players and all of the

666
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: coaches on the same staff. I mean, there was only

667
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: eight coaches on the staff and it was you know,

668
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: but now with the way that it flips, you've got

669
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Speaker 1: to have some sort of solidarity with the fans to

670
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: be able to embrace the new people that come in

671
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: and if you can get some consistency, and consistency at

672
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: the top is hugely important. And you can't get more consistent.

673
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: And we'd be remiss if we didn't mention this, you know,

674
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: while we're all here together talking Bears about Virginia McCaskey. Yeah,

675
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: you just you cannot get more consistent in that. You know,

676
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: one of the best human beings on earth just celebrated

677
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: home run Lumber one hundred I mean one hundred years old,

678
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: so crazy, great lady sharp sharpest can be and knows

679
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: her football. When she wants to talk about she knows

680
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: her football. So yeah, she's been amazing in that building

681
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: and kind of set the tone in the culture for

682
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: what it means to be a Bear employee and what

683
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 1: it means to be a Bear. As we sit here

684
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: at the NFL Scouting Combine here in Indianapolis. There's a

685
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: lot of conversation about trades and everybody moving around in

686
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: draft capital and what this draft is actually going to

687
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: end up looking like in April. Is there a position

688
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: group maybe other than quarterback even that could keep the

689
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: Bears in that number one spot if they fall in

690
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: love with a killer defensive lineman or somebody like that. Possibly.

691
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Jalen Carter's name is prominently mentioned, but

692
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: you know, it's been a constant discussion about moving down

693
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Speaker 1: from from Ryan as well to collect more assets, and

694
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,479
Speaker 1: I think in this position that they're in, that would

695
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: be a smart move. Uh, they're looking at two, four nine.

696
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: Those are the teams that everybody's looking at in terms

697
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: of moving down. You just don't want to move down

698
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: too far. Maybe you could still move down and get

699
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: the same guy you were going to maybe take at

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Speaker 1: number one. Could you move down multiple times? Oh? Yeah,

701
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: I mean you could. I mean you could. They want

702
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: to get crazy, well, but I could see because you

703
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: want to You want to have regrets four years from

704
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: now when you're keeping five years in a row. If

705
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: you're keeping your quarterback, yeah, which it sounds like you are.

706
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: If Justin Fields is the quarterback. Then you could move

707
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: to two for Houston. You could move from two to

708
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: four for Indie, I got you. You could move from

709
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: four to nine for Carolinas through I know. I mean

710
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: what you could rack up could be like one of

711
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: those NHL trades or one of those NBA trades where

712
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: you're getting seventeen second round picks. Well, I don't know

713
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: it'll be that crazy. But I also would like to

714
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: continue to look forward to twenty four and twenty five,

715
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: so if you can land, because the worst thing you

716
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 1: could do is put all your eggs in one basket.

717
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: You know, Ryan is all about. Ryan Poles wants to

718
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: build something that's, like you use the word consistent. You

719
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: just want to be at the at the table every

720
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: year if you can, and continue to devote that attention

721
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: to your roster in that way. But you would agree,

722
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: if you're keeping justin fields, you're probably more likely than

723
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: not to trade the number one pick for the value

724
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: that's there. Yeah, I would say so, I would say so.

725
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: I would say, well, yeah, and as we were visiting

726
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: just a little bit before we got on before we

727
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: get on the air here, starting with the both fronts, absolutely,

728
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: that's what they I mean you go clear back to

729
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: Jim fing That's how he started this whole run in

730
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: the back in the day with it, you know. And

731
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: now you've got a chance. With the type of lineman

732
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: that are in this draft right now, the offensive and

733
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: defensive front. You don't ever want to be in this

734
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: position again, No, no, don't. You don't want to be

735
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: three and fourteen. You can't survive many of those. You

736
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: don't want to be in that butt. If you're here

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00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: and you're fortunate enough to be here with a quarterback

738
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: that you're staying with, this is a chance, yeah, no

739
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: question about it. This is the time you believe you

740
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: can make this guy into a stellar quarterback throwing the

741
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: football in addition to using his legs, the dynamic aspect

742
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: of it. Now, let's let's fill in the blanks here.

743
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: But I'm not looking anywhere past the line of scrimmage.

744
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: That's if tunnel vision right now you go, And I

745
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: know it's not sexy. Everybody wants the you know, the

746
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: big wide receiver and seal position players, but and the

747
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 1: Bears have needs across the board. There's there's no position.

748
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you guys also figure backup quarterback.

749
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: You know that's you know that, you know somebody may

750
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: be in a similar mold. You know that you could

751
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: look at too. Not Hi, obviously, but I want that

752
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball to

753
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 1: be to the shoulder, the load to be the alpha's

754
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: and kick butt. Here's what sexy and football it is. Well,

755
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: does that tunnel vision extend into free agency? Is that

756
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: where your focus is not only in the draft but

757
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: as free Great question, great question. I hate free agency.

758
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: I'm I just do I do. I just don't like it.

759
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: I know you gotta do it. You gotta spend what

760
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: you gotta spend, but you know you're overspending, and especially

761
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: in the early hours. So I don't know where they're

762
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: gonna go in that regard. But I know this. They

763
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: got all this money, but it really isn't all that money,

764
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: you know, it says in our paper. But they have

765
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: guys to resign. They got to think down the road

766
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: about justin You gotta plan for that. But Ryan's going

767
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: to be surgical in my opinion. You know he's not.

768
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: He's not going to blow out the budget by just

769
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: throwing money at guys that you know I'm sure there's

770
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: guys you want that are gonna get tag yet that

771
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: are going to be resigned by their own team. So sure,

772
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: But I think any position is on the table in

773
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: free agency. I do I personally, You tell me, because

774
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: you know more than I do. Coach, I'd like to

775
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: draft an offensive line, get a defensive lineman in the

776
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: draft of known as well, and then you know you

777
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: gotta get some guys that are veterans in there to

778
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: show them away a little bit on the defensive side

779
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: of the ball. That's just my thinking. I'd rather grow

780
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: an offensive line together. Like we talked about the eighty

781
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 1: five guys that started in eighty one, which Jim finks

782
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: he got Jimbo Covert the cornerstone left tackle Hall of famer,

783
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 1: and then drafted his tail off. And those guys, unlike today,

784
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: played every game, every snap for several years, every snap,

785
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: like five to seven years. That that was the offensive line. Well,

786
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 1: that's cost containment. Cost containment is drafting lineman on both

787
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: sides of the ball. Yeah, And that's where if you're

788
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: the Titans, for example, and there's a lot of talk

789
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 1: about the Titans at eleven taking a left tackle, it

790
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: makes total sense because you get that player and your

791
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: cost containment for four years is fabulous. Correct, And you

792
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,959
Speaker 1: know rushers are expensive. Three technique defensive tackles are expensive. Now,

793
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: every everybody's corners, right corners. You know I'm not I'm

794
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: not afraid to go and get another corner high in

795
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: the draft as well. We gotta have them. Yeah, I mean,

796
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 1: you gotta have it. Everybody wants everything, but you can't know.

797
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: But every I think you know everybody here. I mean

798
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: this is a football group. Yeah, the premium position, and

799
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: you understand that the upfront is where it really on

800
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: both sides. It's still as wide open as it is

801
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: and as entertaining as it's become, and as as free

802
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: flowing as it's become. It's still a big man's game.

803
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: You got still a big man's game. And you got

804
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: to be able to impose your will throughout the course

805
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: of a game. Maybe not at the start, but throughout

806
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: a course of it. And you do it with dudes

807
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: up front at Now, what do you guys say to

808
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: those who say, well, you know you gotta score, You

809
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: gotta score points to win. I get that, but the

810
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: scoring it way up? What league? Why? Way up? Is

811
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: this is here's how you going to continue. You protect

812
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: your quarterback, yeah, and you hold onto the ball and

813
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: you extend series. And you're not going to do that

814
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: unless you have people that are working up front and

815
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: finished drives and finish drives, right and finish. I love

816
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: running the ball, So i'm a i'm a I'm I'm

817
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: old school now. I love running the ball. And I

818
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: know that's not always popular these days, but the league,

819
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: there's there's been a lot. I mean, look how a

820
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: two hundred yard rushing days looking in the city in

821
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? Right right right? I mean, what did

822
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: Mahomes throw for one eighty two? Thing? As long as

823
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: pass was twenty nine and the and the bottom line

824
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: is they had enough of a running game that they

825
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: could protect him and that ankle and that he could

826
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,959
Speaker 1: throw when he needed to and he could make it quick.

827
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,760
Speaker 1: But right that rush was muted and that Isaiah Pacheco

828
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: is a bad man, seventh round pick, man out of Rutgers,

829
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: bad man runs angry. The run game is still very,

830
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: very vital, but it's just not as sexy. It's there

831
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: for football people. It's there because that's the way you

832
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: have to as Yeah, and and Mike said it very

833
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: very well. We talk about a lot on our broadcasting

834
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: extending series. Staying on the field offensively helps everybody. It

835
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: also helps your defense. I mean some of the best

836
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: defense I ever coached in my life. In my you know,

837
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: thirty one years of coaching, I was watching Walter run,

838
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: you know, just standing on the sideline. Well, you know,

839
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: your defense. They weren't on the field very long because

840
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: these guys led the NFL in time of possession. They're

841
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: pretty good. I mean that every year they led the

842
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: league in time of possession. So your defense was fresh

843
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 1: to go get the QB. Good. Nah, you're the best.

844
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: Thank you for having Jeff always is with your voice

845
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: of the Chicago Bears. Think about I tell him this,

846
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: he's the voice of the Chicago Bears. I mean, that's

847
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: one of the original listeners. That is Elite air Off.

848
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: They're all thirty two of Well, I was play by play, guys.

849
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: They're pretty darnfortunate. But we are very fortunate. There's very fortunate.

850
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: There's one team that started it. Yes, he took the

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00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,160
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871
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: So I don't know that you're old enough, Amy, but

872
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: I bet coach Mac Rhett and I would say the

873
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: same thing. We grew up reading Sports Illustrated, absolutely, And

874
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: one of the things I liked about Sports Illustrated so

875
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: much is that I read about a lot of things

876
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: I had no idea about, and beforehand, I had no

877
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: major interest about. But they would find the character and

878
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: the stories and the scenes and all of the things

879
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: that I never considered. And so I would read stories

880
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: about chess and about different cricket or because it happened

881
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: to be in the publication, because in the sports that

882
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: you cared about with football and baseball, that's right. But

883
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: I would read Sports Illustrated cover to cover, and it

884
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: was the only magazine that I did that as a

885
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: as a kid, and it really doesn't exist in that

886
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: same form to day. But there is a writer who's

887
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: doing Sports Illustrated type things and he's doing it in

888
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal. His name is Andrew Beaton, and

889
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: we introduced you to him on the OTP last year

890
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: from the combine. I've gotten to know him because I'm

891
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: a fan of what he does. He writes about some

892
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: of the strangest things you've ever seen. He writes about

893
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: controversial topics like liv golf. He I mean he you know,

894
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: he's into every He's into the NFL. Andrew Beaton is

895
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: just thirty one years old, and yet he's writing stories

896
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: like he's been around for fifty years and an unusual read.

897
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: His writing style, his way older than he's but to

898
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: be in the Wall Street Journal too. And and to me,

899
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: I love what you just wrote up about Sports Illustrated

900
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: And the analogy is really good because I can remember

901
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: getting Sports Illustrated and couldn't wait till it showed up

902
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: right in the mail. May we've all had subscriptions if

903
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: you were involved in sports at all, even from a

904
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: young age. But and I find it interesting that you

905
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: formed to kind of a get to know Andrew Beaton

906
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: because that is a different dude. Well, he is a

907
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: different dude. I mean he's a lot smarter than I am.

908
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 1: And he well he is, I mean he is. He's

909
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: a genius type who sees the world in a very

910
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: different way. And we did an interview with him last year.

911
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: It was so enjoyable and we got so many good

912
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,720
Speaker 1: reactions from the OT people that we did it again.

913
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: Andrew Beaton from the Wall Street Journal talking sports with us,

914
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: maybe they're just hard sports. He does talk to the

915
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: NFL on the OTCH Andrew beaton Wall Street Journal Sports.

916
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: It still does sound not Andrew Beaton, but Wall Street

917
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: Journal Sports just sounds a little odd. Well, here's the

918
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: thing about it. Such a widely respect acted, highly renowned

919
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: publication for something that is incredibly intellectual. Smart people read

920
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal, and people don't always associate with

921
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: smart people with sports. You think about what we do read,

922
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,439
Speaker 1: I don't think you know, it just doesn't kind of mash,

923
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: but it is important and there is a business to it. Andrew,

924
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: how do you find all the things you write about?

925
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: I always just try to think that if something interests me,

926
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: it'll probably interest whoever is reading about it. Because if chess,

927
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 1: if I'm writing about chess, I'm a terrible chess player,

928
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: but I found the world, the chess world, to be

929
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: quirky and weird and fascinating and there's a lot going

930
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: on there, and so if I'm interested in it, that's

931
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: a whole heck of a lot better chance of a

932
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: reader being interested in then if I'm just watching a

933
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: football game and I'm bored by it, then they're probably

934
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: gonna be bored what I'm writing about. So what's the

935
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: response you get to writing about, say, chess. We were

936
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: absolutely shocked by how much people enjoyed reading our chess covers. Wow,

937
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: how do you pitch a story that's like, I've got one, guys,

938
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: it's chess, roll with me here, Like, how do you

939
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: pitch that and get someone to say, yeah, pursue that.

940
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: You know, we've done a few over the years, and

941
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: they've just sort of reliably been read really well because

942
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: I think it's a game that you know, everyone has

943
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: a chess board lying at home, and they might not

944
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: know the quirks or the oddities of the chess world.

945
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: So when you start writing about weird things over the

946
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 1: years in the chess world, like how the best players

947
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: are really particular and crazy about what chairs they're sitting

948
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: in while they're playing the games. That's funny to people,

949
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: and it doesn't even matter if if you know how

950
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: the pieces move on the board. That's a human story

951
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: where you can understand that there are these geniuses who

952
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: are also really finicky and particular about things that are

953
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: kind of hilarious. But at the heart of this story

954
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 1: that you've done. Recently, one of the stars of chess

955
00:51:55,239 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: has a scandal and there's accusations involved. We do love us.

956
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: People love a scandal. It's kind of a great scandal

957
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 1: in some ways too, because in some way the stakes

958
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: are enormous, because that's the worst thing you can do

959
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: in a game of chess. But it's also in the

960
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: grand scheme of the world, not something super serious now,

961
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: like dying or getting hurt or getting sick. So it's

962
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: this thing that you can both kind of smile at

963
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: and be entertained by without feeling totally guilty about. If

964
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Yes, yeah, So you go to the

965
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: Super Bowl a few weeks ago and you came up

966
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: with some wild angles. My favorite, well, there were two.

967
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: There was Jalen Hurts weightlifting. Powerlifting. Actually that's a good one. Oh,

968
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty great right off the tip.

969
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: How did you find out about that? You know, it

970
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: had been mentioned a little bit over the years, like

971
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: when he was in college there was a viral video

972
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: of him squatting I think six hundred pounds at Oklahoma,

973
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: and then people had mentioned it in passing then and

974
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: it's just sort of made me curious, all right, how

975
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 1: did this guy get into this? And the thing that's

976
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: interesting to me. It wasn't just a fun fact about somebody.

977
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: I mean, we all saw in that Super Bowl how

978
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: many times Jalen Hurts did a quarterback sneak. That guy

979
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: can move his legs, he can push. He's a powerful

980
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: guy for anybody on a football field, but in particular

981
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: a quarterback. And yes, he gets those Eagles guys behind

982
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: him who are shoving him through the line on all

983
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 1: those plays, but he is built differently than pretty much

984
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: every other quarterback, even the other guys who run. He

985
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: doesn't have necessarily the limberness and the pure straight line

986
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: speed of a Justin Fields or Lamar Jackson. But he's

987
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: powerful for a quarterback. And that's what really struck me

988
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: that it wasn't just something he did. This was something

989
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: about Jalen Hurts his past that helped to explain his success. Now.

990
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: I also loved to Kevin Burkhardt's story being a broadcaster.

991
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: And I've said this to Kevin, for him to come

992
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: and I'll let you tell the story to our ot

993
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 1: people about where he began, but for him to do

994
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: what he's done and to get to the point where

995
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: he is, he has paid the dudes he has done

996
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 1: the work. No silver spoon had to come up the

997
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: hard way, and now he's calling the Super Bowl, and

998
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 1: to watch him call the Super Bowl was extra special

999
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: to me because of that amazing story that you were

1000
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: able to share with the Wall Street Journal readers. Well,

1001
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: thank you so much. I mean, Kevin's always been an

1002
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: amazing story. I mean, used car salesman who's hustling while

1003
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: calling high school games and minor league games. But I

1004
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: thought the funniest thing to me was talking to him

1005
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: about how much the New York Mets shaped his future

1006
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 1: because I'm from New York, so I've been cursed with

1007
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: watching an unfortunate amount of New York Mets games and

1008
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: there is never a been an appeal that the New

1009
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: York Mets are not slipping on. And so he had

1010
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: to deal with hilarity, with controversy, with frankly, just a

1011
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: lot of really bad baseball teams that he had to

1012
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: try and make interesting. And you will not find a

1013
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: New York Mets fan who did not worship him. And

1014
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: that is saying something on a broadcast that has three

1015
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: legends in Gary Cone, Keith Hernandez, and Ron Darling. But

1016
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: Kevin Burkhardt made himself sort of like a part of

1017
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: your living room when you were watching a Mets game.

1018
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: And it was so interesting talking to him about how, yes,

1019
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: how the foibles of the Mets shaped his career to

1020
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: be basically prepared for anything. One of my favorite stories

1021
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: from the Super Bowl was the story about the Kelsey

1022
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: brothers and how much they ate? Now do yeah, like,

1023
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 1: of all the angles, of all the things to overturn

1024
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 1: two boys eating a tremendous amount of food in their youth,

1025
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: how do you how do you get there? Well, it's

1026
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: just sort of don't you hear that type of thing

1027
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: all the time when like you find you meet your

1028
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: family friend and they have three sons who are a giant.

1029
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: They asked the mom, Oh, so what do you feed him? Yeah?

1030
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: So just kind of want to make they ate you

1031
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 1: out of house and home. That's what That's what my

1032
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 1: parents used to say. Yeah, so that's where you get it. So, yeah,

1033
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: it's just a question that I thought about and then

1034
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you see, these two guys were enormous.

1035
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: They are big, big guys, built very differently, but just

1036
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: maybe wonder, all right, what did you feed them? And

1037
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: I didn't know if there would be anything there there.

1038
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: But credit to Ed and Donna Kelsey. They were hilarious

1039
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: talking about what a hassle it basically was, and these

1040
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: guys running up one hundred dollars bills at ihop, which

1041
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: I didn't know was possible. Gosh, that story made me sweat, like, wow,

1042
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 1: that sounds so expensive. All right, So, with that thought

1043
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 1: in mind, and your unique ability to put these columns

1044
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: together for the Wall Street Journal without giving away a

1045
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: future column, what are you looking for this week? At

1046
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: the NFL Combine? What's There's so many confluences of you know,

1047
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: three hundred nineteen guys that are going to be trying

1048
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: to chase their dreams. There's gems, there's coaches or scouts.

1049
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:44,919
Speaker 1: What are you looking for? Well, one of the things

1050
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: I try to do a lot at the combine is listen,

1051
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: because you know, this is the first time we're hearing

1052
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: from a lot of these coaches in a long time,

1053
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,240
Speaker 1: and it's in a lot of instances the best first

1054
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: glimpse we're getting at how they see their offseason. And

1055
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: so a lot of the times I come here and

1056
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: don't know what I'm going to write, and I mind

1057
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,479
Speaker 1: even if I don't write anything off it this week.

1058
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just helping plant seeds for ideas during the

1059
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, But a lot of it's coming here and

1060
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: listening and sit hearing, whether it's a coach or a

1061
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: GM or a prospect, what's important to them? What are

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Speaker 1: they thinking about? And then that can help me think

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00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: about what to think about, because you know, when you're

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00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: hearing Sean Payton start talking today, or quasi famensa from

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00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: the Vikings talking about Kirk Cousins in the possible future there,

1066
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: or what Justin Jefferson means to the Vikings, those are

1067
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: the type of things that are making me think about

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00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: all right. I know it's important to them, so you

1069
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: can start thinking about, all right, what are the Vikings

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00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: going to look like next year? Well we can start

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00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: thinking about that because we've heard from the people who

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Speaker 1: are important over there. Andrew Baton is an observer, fair

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00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: I try to. I mean, that's a lot of what

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00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: we're all doing, right, We're all trying to see things

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Speaker 1: with her eyes and listen with her ears and call

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00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: out what we think is interesting. It's what you do

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00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: during Titans games. It's what I think drives a lot

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00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: of us and that's how we all find our different

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00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: voices about what interests us when we're watching or listening.

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00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: As we start through the NFL, I guess off season

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00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: quote unquote, well, let's just say, ever since they added

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00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: the extra week to the regular season and everything is

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00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: even more compressed with the super Bowl, there feels like

1084
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: zero offseason, right. It feels like a like a fake name,

1085
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: kind of like legal tampering, off season, legal tampering. Um.

1086
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: As we start and we're journeying closer and closer to

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00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: free agency, you wrote a great article about Aaron Rodgers

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00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: and kind of his contract structure. Do you feel like

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00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: that is the first thing that we all need to

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00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: observe some movement on what is going to happen with

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00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers before the rest of the NFL can really

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Speaker 1: start doing anything. Yeah. I think teams like maybe the

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00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: Jets are in a kind of weird and difficult spot because,

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00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: on the one hand, if they want to go all

1095
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: in for Aaron Rodgers, they might have to wait a

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00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: little bit. We don't have any clarity on if that

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00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: decisions can be in five days or ten days or

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00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: twenty days. But then let's say they find out that

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Speaker 1: he doesn't want to come to the Jets, or he

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00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: wants to stay in Green Bay, or he wants to retire.

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00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: What if they've then missed out on the Derek Carrs

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00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: and the Jimmy Garoppolos. So they're kind of in a

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00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: tough spot where they could make a move for one

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00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: of those other guys and then regret it if they

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00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: later found out that Aaron Rodgers wants to be a Jet,

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00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: But they also don't want to come up empty handed.

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00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: So I think to answer your question is I think

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00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: the lack of certainty about when we will find out

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00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: about what Aaron Rodgers future is that's going to drive

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Speaker 1: a lot more questions than anything. Because if we had

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00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: a deadline, if we had a timeline for when all this,

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00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: I think we'd have answers. But the uncertainty must just

1113
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: be driving these teams crazy. Have you made up with

1114
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers since COVID show? And for those who don't know, Andrew,

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00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: you really started the COVID toe controversy, didn't you declined

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00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: to comment? I don't think a reporter could do that.

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Speaker 1: But have you have you talked with him or anybody

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01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,919
Speaker 1: with him since? Yeah? I mean you're writing about him again,

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01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: So I just wondered, Yeah, no, we talked afterwards. We

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Speaker 1: had a private conversation. Okay, good, Oh, that's it true.

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Speaker 1: So from your standpoint, what was that experience? Like, you know,

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01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: it's just a little bit of a media frenzy for

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Speaker 1: a moment, but then at the end of the day

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Speaker 1: it returns to talking about football and chess and chess.

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Speaker 1: So the Aaron Rodgers part is that really kind of

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Speaker 1: where this stuff starts. I feel like that whatever happens

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Speaker 1: with him and whatever happens with Lamar Jackson is where

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Speaker 1: the NFL offseason starts to fall out with the stories.

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Speaker 1: I completely agree. I mean, and you brought up Lamar.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think most betting people would say he

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01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: still ends up in Baltimore. But is that kind of

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Speaker 1: the biggest wild card because things with Aaron Rodgers seemed

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01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: to be trending in a direction. I think most people

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01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: seem to think that he will be playing football somewhere

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01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: else or won't at least be back in Green Bay

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01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: if he choose to retire. But the Lamar Jackson's story,

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01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: he's really clouded in mystery and the question of will

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Speaker 1: he get that type of guaranteed money that he wants

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Speaker 1: and that he's going to try to fight for, or

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01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 1: is there a team that's going to be willing to

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Speaker 1: offer him that money and also Baltimore an extraordinary sum

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Speaker 1: of picks. So let me follow up with this. There

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01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 1: are some who believe that the Deshaun Watson guaranteed contract

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01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: maybe the last one of its kinds. Certainly front offices

1145
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: are hoping that that's the case. Where do you get

1146
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: that vibe? Yeah, I think a lot of this needs

1147
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: to come down to whether or not a quarterback is

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Speaker 1: essentially going to push the limits and get closer and

1149
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: closer to free agency, because that's when you can start

1150
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: making those demands and having the leverage to do it.

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01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: You know, Deshaun Watson wasn't a free agent, but he

1152
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: was in this unique position where with everything that had

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01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: gone on, he had teams that were bidding on him

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01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: and was, essentially, in a weird way a free agent

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01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: because he can go siate contracts with multiple teams at

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01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: the same time and choose where. He approved a trade too,

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01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: so he was in a weird way even though he's traded,

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01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: he had to leverage during his contract negotiations. Of a

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01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: free agent and to a lesser scale. You saw when

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins got his guaranteed deal. That's also during free agency.

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Speaker 1: So the question with Lamar is if he really wants

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01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: that fully guaranteed deal for a huge sum of money,

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01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: there is a path there. It comes with some risk

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Speaker 1: of playing on a franchise tag for a year maybe two,

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01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 1: But and that ends up being one hundred million bucks

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01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: right there. That's not a bad pay day, not a

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Speaker 1: bad pay day. Do you think he's at a disadvantage

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01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 1: because he does not have representation and he is his

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01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: own guy. I think there's probably enough people around him.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Union is around, and none of these

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01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: players are really going in without guidance. And if that's

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Speaker 1: what he thinks, that's what's best for him. I mean, again,

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01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: he's putting himself in a position to possibly get a

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01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: massive pay day. Here, let's play a game. What do

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Speaker 1: you think happens with Lamar Jackson? I think them in

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01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: Baltimore fun way to work out a deal. It seemed

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Speaker 1: like a really big reset for the Ravens to have

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01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: found a really great quarterback. I mean it's easy to

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Speaker 1: forget that a few years ago, just how good that

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson season was when he was the NB. Yeah,

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01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: thirty six touchdowns, six interceptions for all everyone talks about

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01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: is running man. He was scoring through the air that

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01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: year and he is so good. And does Baltimore really

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01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: want to press the reset button again, even if it

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01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: would come with a massive haul of draft picks. So

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Speaker 1: I think probably for both sides, there's a good incentive

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01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 1: to get something done. What happens with Aaron Rodgers, I

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01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: don't know where, but I think he's playing in twenty

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01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: twenty three. Maybe it's in New York with the Jets.

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01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 1: Maybe there's a team that we aren't even really talking

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01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: about when Carolina Panthers or I'm just making up names here,

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01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: But we've been surprised before when teams have emerged from

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01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: the woodwork to be interested in, say hey, for a

1194
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: year or two, we're in a roller dice with this

1195
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: guy and see if we can open a Super Bowl window.

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01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 1: So it sounds like you're like us. We believe that

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01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 1: the story about the Pack is wanting to be done

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01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: with it is true. You agree. I just think there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of risk for them by bringing him back

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01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: in terms of if he retires the next year. That

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01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 1: sixty sem odd million cap hit that they'd have to

1202
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 1: absorb is really tough, and so this has nothing to

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01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: do with that, like his abilities on the football field,

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01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: but it's kind of their long term future as a franchise.

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01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: This is also the off season when they have to

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01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: decide on Jordan Love's fifth year option, So there's just

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01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: a lot of big decisions that seem to be converging

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01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: at the same moment that at least my hunch would

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01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: be that he's somewhere else. Biggest offseason story for the

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Speaker 1: NFL that enterest the Wall Street Journals Andrew Beaton, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the movement of the quarterbacks is always one, and I

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01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: think that is trumped up this year. When you have

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Speaker 1: names like Lamar Jackson, names like Aaron Rodgers, I mean,

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01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers one of the best quarterbacks of all time.

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01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: He could be playing somewhere else next year. That's kind

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01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,919
Speaker 1: of crazy, right, And so that is really the biggest one.

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01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: But then also this is a kind of fascinating draft

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01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: where last year's draft, you look at the quarterbacks, those

1219
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: they always steal the headlines. But last year's draft had

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01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 1: one quarterback taken in the first round, and there was

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01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: a chance some people thought there'd be none. And this

1222
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: year's draft, how many were we looking at? Four? Maybe five? Yeah,

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01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: but there's a lack of consensus on them that I

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01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: think is gonna be really interesting in terms of, you know,

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01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: a few years from now, one of these teams in

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01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: the one to fifteen range is gonna look really smart,

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01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 1: and then some are gonna look pretty dumb. But nobody

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01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 1: right now seems to know exactly who's who. You know,

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01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: some people absolutely swear by Bryce Young. Other people think

1230
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 1: his frame is a little slight to be a quarterback.

1231
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: And so with all of these quarterbacks, you can run

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01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 1: through different scenarios where you can see them becoming superstars,

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01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 1: where you can see reasons why they might not succeed.

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01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 1: And I would love to look back on this draft

1235
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,919
Speaker 1: in a few years and see who's right and who's wrong.

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01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: As a journalist, how tempting is it for you? It

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01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: seems like you always find a little of a different angle,

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01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 1: you a little something different to approach a story, and

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01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: it makes you a very fascinating person to read. How

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01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: tempting is it though, to just kind of take the

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01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: low hanging fruit and be like top five quarterbacks in

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01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 1: the draft, or how we do this? Yeah, yeah, like

1243
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: what we do every day. But really, there are so

1244
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 1: many of what seems like redundancies just because everybody is

1245
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 1: covering the same few stories, but you always find the

1246
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: different angle. How do you do that? And how do

1247
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: you resist just being like, man, I could do this

1248
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: story in ten minutes. Well, I think my editor would

1249
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: laugh at me if I tried to do the first

1250
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: five quarterbacks, because he knows I'm nowhere near good enough

1251
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 1: scout to pretend to do that. But what I'd say

1252
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 1: is like, even all those stories are useful. I'm a

1253
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 1: voracious reader, and I learned about the draft by reading

1254
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 1: the You know, there's hundreds of media here. You learn

1255
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 1: by reading all these people's insights to the people who

1256
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 1: watch the tape for over and over and over again.

1257
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 1: So even though those lists often can seem like redundancies,

1258
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: you can still learn a lot by reading the people

1259
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: who you think are smart and think about trusting. And

1260
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: for me, I know I'm not good enough to evaluate

1261
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 1: Will Levis first, Anthony Richardson's arm, so I have to

1262
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: find something different. I tell you, anytime you put out

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01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 1: something new, I read it and I can't say that

1264
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: about a lot of people. You write about a lot

1265
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 1: of stuff I know nothing about. In many cases I

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01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 1: have no interest in, and I come away from it

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01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 1: being interested. So thank you for what you do, Andrew

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01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 1: beaton Wall Street Journal. It's just it's it's a great read.

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01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: Every time you've put something out. Thank you so much

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01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 1: for taking time with us on the OTPA. I absolutely

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Speaker 1: love it. Thank you so much for having it. Fun guy,

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Speaker 1: fun guy to get to up. One of the reasons

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Speaker 1: I love to combine is you're like, why would you

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Speaker 1: throw that on on the OTP from the combine, And

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Speaker 1: it's because everybody's here. Everybody is here, Mike, and that

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Speaker 1: is so fascinating to get all of those I meause

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Speaker 1: everybody see it's not just coaches in general managers that

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Speaker 1: are involved now in the world of the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: There is a whole ecosystem that works around this because

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a great game, but it's a massive business.

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Speaker 1: It's a massive business with a lot of tentacles to it,

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Speaker 1: and everybody that's involved even like this, Yes they're here,

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Speaker 1: they're here because this is the this is the epicenter

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Speaker 1: of what's going on. Right now in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: That's why Indy fought to keep the combine. Absolutely it

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Speaker 1: is because it draws so many people from so many

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Speaker 1: different places all to one concentrated area where they can

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Speaker 1: all interact and intermingle. I mean, Andrew was even saying

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Speaker 1: that he comes to Indianapolis just to listen and observe.

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Speaker 1: That's mostly what he's doing. And there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of different journalists who are able to be here and

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Speaker 1: do that because everybody is orbiting around each other in

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Speaker 1: one I mean matter of a couple blocks. Everybody is

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Speaker 1: right in the same space, and there's so much information

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Speaker 1: that you're able to take in in this space. Other

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Speaker 1: cities wouldn't be able to provide what Indianapolis provides well Geographically,

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Speaker 1: that's why this has worked for so long. With the

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Speaker 1: exception of the West Coast teams, majority of the National

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Speaker 1: Football League is right very near to here. It's a

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Speaker 1: central location for I mean think about the Tennessee Titans

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Speaker 1: are just down the road, the Indianapolis Colds are right

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Speaker 1: here in the backyard. But all the East Coast teams

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Speaker 1: it's not that far to get to Indianapolis. Well, and

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Speaker 1: coach Mac almost a quarter of the teams are no

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Speaker 1: longer sending their coaching staffs to the combine. And it's

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Speaker 1: an interesting development, it really is. And I think two

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Speaker 1: things lynt to that, Mike. First of all, coaching staffs

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Speaker 1: are turning over at a faster rate than they ever have.

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Speaker 1: So this time of year, when you've got a new

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Speaker 1: staff as a coaching staff, it's vital to start pulling together.

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Speaker 1: Once you get people hired, Hey, what are we gonna do.

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Speaker 1: What's our basic plan, what's our basic playbook? Look like?

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Speaker 1: What's our And this is vital time right now. The

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Speaker 1: scouting process of this and the medical process of this

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Speaker 1: is what the genesis of this was. That those people,

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Speaker 1: those people are all here every those people are all here,

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Speaker 1: you know, doing that. But I can understand especially new

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Speaker 1: coaching staffs or staffs that have had a pretty good turnover.

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Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. The technology now, before when

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Speaker 1: I first started doing this, if you didn't come here

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Speaker 1: to see it, it might be a week or two

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Speaker 1: or maybe longer before you ever got this. This information

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Speaker 1: now is like bam button, it's back to you and

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Speaker 1: you've got everything that you want. And especially then the workouts, bam,

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Speaker 1: it's right back to you. So I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of things have lent themselves to that, and I think

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Speaker 1: more and more you will see some coaching staffs maybe

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Speaker 1: have some people come in that are involved in a

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Speaker 1: lot of evaluations, but not everybody. And because it used

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Speaker 1: to be everybody, and then some teams are choosing, as

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Speaker 1: you said, not to do it now. All right, so

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Speaker 1: more to come from us again, we are soliciting for

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Speaker 1: your otp qes for Jim Wyatt, for a live mailbag

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Speaker 1: OTP with Jim white Um Disappointing Responses, Disappointing response Station. However,

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Speaker 1: I know that the people will show up. They always

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Speaker 1: rise to the occasion. Tennessee Titans dot com slash otp

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Speaker 1: q all your Titans questions. It doesn't have to be

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Speaker 1: draft related whatever. Really I mean we need you can

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Speaker 1: ask about almost anything. We would really just like to

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Speaker 1: have your questions be able to answer them. It's from

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Speaker 1: Jim Wyatt. You know he knows what he's talking about,

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Speaker 1: and we're just excited to hear from you guys. So

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans dot com slash otp q's or if you

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Speaker 1: want to tweet them, if you don't mess around, with

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Speaker 1: the Internet. I don't know. Hit me on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: Titans Amy, am I E. I'll get them that way too.

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Speaker 1: And why are we imploring for this? Listen? Think about

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Speaker 1: this ot people. How cool would it be to have

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Speaker 1: your OTP Q answered on an OTP not just in

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Speaker 1: a regular mail bags sitting I would have on Tennessee

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Speaker 1: Titans dot Com from Jim Wyatt sitting here in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: There it is making it happen. There is the valid

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Speaker 1: there it is okay. So at Titans Amy, that's a

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Speaker 1: m I E. At Titans Amy. Rhet Brian's Twitter is

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Speaker 1: at Rhett b Tennessee And for that matter, we'll just

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Speaker 1: throw at Jim White's Twitter at j Wyatt Sports. So

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Speaker 1: follow them on Twitter. We've got a lot more coming up,

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Speaker 1: more interviews, more discussion, more from Indianapolis. On Thursday. That's

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Speaker 1: the fourth day of the combined group. So we'll be

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Speaker 1: back to bar for Coach Mack, for Rett Brian for

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Speaker 1: Amy Wells. I'm Mike Keith. Thank you for listening to

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Speaker 1: the O T. Pete. Welcome to the big show where

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Speaker 1: the license go. Everybody knows it's our house fighting thoughts

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Speaker 1: Tennessee makings to read Greatness is Metsi be